and i want this doc to be as concise as possible
#lore-discussion
young socket
tupid
pulsar ocean
Would calamitas like TikTok
tranquil seal
Calamitas would burn the internet to the ground if given the chance
pulsar ocean
No
pulsar ocean
she's more of a tumblr person
The lair of evil
tranquil seal
Would yharim see influencers as gods and kill them is the real question
pulsar ocean
He probably is
tranquil seal
He saw astrum deus as one
young socket
no he didnt
mighty zenith
i dont remember him ordering dog to kill it
young socket
no
tranquil seal
So dog just felt a little quirky then
pliant ruin
yharim is ok wtih astrum deus
hes chill
actually astrum deus is universally loved in the lore
nobody has any reason to dislike it
tranquil seal
so why do we kill it….
mighty zenith
we dont!
tranquil seal
Are we the bad guys
pulsar ocean
Are we stupid
mighty zenith
its not potrayed well in game because calamity mod is a modification created for terraria in 2016 by Mountaindrew "Fabsol" Calamity
young socket
me when the Thankfully, such a grandiose being that walks amongst the stars is likely not truly dead.
mighty zenith
but deus is only freed from the infection at the end of the fight rather than die
tranquil seal
yharim is truly the most reliable source
tranquil seal
Dude just watches us like a YouTube video
when you finish the YouTube video and it jumps out of the screen and starts throwing hands🏳️
mighty zenith
supple bluff
Hey would someone fact check this document I have real quick
pulsar ocean
but deus is only freed from the infection at the end of the fight rather than di...
But why does it look like he's dying piece by piece
mighty zenith
calamity mod is a modification crea
tranquil seal
It should mention the auric dragons being gifted the auric souls at the start probably
scenic olive
When do we get auric souls in a bottle
mighty zenith
they stopped being born with auric souls once the supply ran out
since there was a limited amount of fragments of the World Soul when it shattered (since thats where the auric souls came from)
supple bluff
I didn't know there was a limited amount I thought there was like a set amount of dragons and after that thats our limit of souls
scenic olive
Does Auric Soul fragmenta also come back to aerie?
mighty zenith
old duke is an example of an old dragon that missed out on an auric soul
supple bluff
What is the world soul?
scenic olive
young socket
What is the world soul?
yeah
mighty zenith
yeah
scenic olive
yeah
supple bluff
O I thought he was just a breed of dragon that didn't have one
Like wyverns and shit like dragons that existed but weren't cool enough
mighty zenith
nah its just once domains ran out, they no longer got auric souls
scenic olive
Do we have
mighty zenith
its why yharon couldnt like, make children to have more auric souls
mighty zenith
probably
tranquil seal
Imagine being gifted an auric soul and getting killed by a slime (dragon of gluttony moment)
tranquil seal
imagine being a guy and getting turned into a slime
mighty zenith
🍔
pliant ruin
slime god wasnt a slime actually
yea slimes arent sentient they cant become god s
young socket
auric dragon of cheese
pulsar ocean
Is abyss generating water canon
late veldt
I wonder if the Exo Mechs and Calamitas combined could kill Yharim considering they're the two penultimate bosses
pulsar ocean
Exo calamitas
supple bluff
Wait who gifts them the soul then
young socket
yeah
supple bluff
Also is Zeratros still the name of the king dragon that Xeroc absorbed the soul of?
Or is that old/fake
young socket
yes
supple bluff
PLEASE GOD PLEASE
...
Wow
Not even a yeah
I thought we had something
How could you do this to me
young socket
u dont understand my relationship with the word yeah
supple bluff
And apparently I never will
prime mauve
L
languid badge
zeratros is a new lore character
I mean, he could have been in old lore, and we just never heard about him 
supple bluff
So maybe dumb question but reading the doc it feels like it could be a possibility. The Primordial Light is just the sun right? Is it still just a star?
untold oracle
The terrarian is actually evil and way worse than yharim
thick slate
the terans lor is actual up to you
limpid saddle
So maybe dumb question but reading the doc it feels like it could be a possibili...
the primordial light forms at the sun yeah, & while it's what we would consider a star, it's not what a star is in calamity terms
supple bluff
What is it then? Is it alive? Or just a gathering of Primordial light
In a big ball
pliant ruin
you could not say that actually
supple bluff
Wait so is just the sun Primordial light or is every star?
languid badge
stars are basically mana conglomerates
snow mountain
no, every star is a concentration/ball of mana, kinda like in xenoblade
robust osprey
stars are mama balls
sun isn't a normal calamity star
sun is a ball of primordial light
snow mountain
the sun is stored in the balls
thick slate
what the sun
snow mountain
sancer 😔
limpid saddle
Yeah the astral infection gets them
dire sluice
tidal karma
The terrarian is actually evil and way worse than yharim
really
snow mountain
yes, they are canonically a landlord
tidal karma
devilish behavior
limpid saddle
lying to someone who doesn't know about all the dev statements or even in-game lore feels like whispering to a blind man walking barefoot that there is nothing ahead while he's about to tread onto several tetanus infested heroin needles
snow mountain
i feel like lying
wheat walrus
lying to someone who doesn't know about all the dev statements or even in-game l...
🔥
gentle ferry
lying to someone who doesn't know about all the dev statements or even in-game l...
Calamity lore is personalized
It changes game to game
Adapts to your beliefs and struggles
hexed quiver
lying to someone who doesn't know about all the dev statements or even in-game l...
U sir have won the internet!! 1 
Kill me
pulsar ocean
do stars in our usual irl representation exist in cal universe or is it all falling stars
wheat walrus
¯_(ツ)_/¯
long bloom
probably all just falling stars
spring helm
I wonder if the Exo Mechs and Calamitas combined could kill Yharim considering t...
they can
probably
the exo mechs together are already about as strong as Yharim was pre-exo upgrade, and Calamitas is at that level too
the gap between them and Yharim is not so large that he can easily defeat them all at the same time
modern lichen
Is there anything about Yharims army outside of the weapon tooltips?
young socket
plenty
depends on wat ur asking for rlly
stuff like mechs whisper exists, detailing how yharim organised his troops
and rimehounds bestiary entry
modern lichen
More like the troops themselves and what happened to them after the war ended
limpid saddle
More like the troops themselves and what happened to them after the war ended
Now that's a really open point
(Goated pfp btw)
We don't really know what's happening with Yharim's Army, but it fell into disarray around 10 or so years ago after Yharim went full psycho-bloodlust & disdnt return to rule his army, without Permafrost there everything kind of went to shit
young socket
We don't really know what's happening with Yharim's Army, but it fell into disar...
no
it fell into disarray when he left
limpid saddle
It's been implied that remnant forces are still trying to finish the Crusades & cull the remaining 50 or so Gods not on the contineant
young socket
he only left for the aerie a few months before the game starts
modern lichen
So basically the empire just with no palpatine?
limpid saddle
it fell into disarray when he left
I'd say with literally no-one there to direct their forces, causing shit like botched supply lines & the dungeon fiasco, it's pretty disarray
His vanishing to the aerie simply sealed the deal
young socket
I'd say with literally no-one there to direct their forces, causing shit like bo...
yea and he was there FOR TEN YEARS
modern lichen
That would mean pretty much any civilization left standing would either be at odds with them or subjugated
young socket
he only left a few months ago
limpid saddle
he even mentions his own apathy towards the collapse of his empire at the time
young socket
no
his apathy towards anything aside from the crusade
which includes using the army
"I hid behind my excuses, calling them duties. Fighting the gods. Training. Ruling."
he even says ruling
modern lichen
(Goated pfp btw)
Thx
And also was there a map or visual of what the world looked/looks like?
limpid saddle
And also was there a map or visual of what the world looked/looks like?
We dont really
modern lichen
How bout just names of civilizations and continents?
robust osprey
in heartlands you had azafure (crags), ilmeris (sunken sea) and chrysadia (sky)
in other continents you have .
mighty zenith
dusk laurel
evil corn
supple bluff
Do we know the names/domains of the dragons before fovos
Aside from zeratros and Yharon ofc
proven rivet
I think it's just Vetrasyl
supple bluff
Who that
young socket
dragon of storms, absorbed by otonilou to becomet the goddess of electricity
is gonna be prevelant in sky island lore
spring helm
there was the dragon of gravity, but we don't know their name i think
the dragon of gluttony, which the slime god consumed
providence killed the dragon of flame
long bloom
and the dragon of death
late veldt
<:EvilCorn:536257777648271360>
why does this server have a corn boss emoji anyways
dusk laurel
the nefarious tremors below the earth
late veldt
the nefarious spin attack
modern lichen
It’d be pretty cool if there was somehow a dragon in the disruption
spring helm
and the dragon of death
oh yeah, them and the dragon of life
dark sundial
Which civilization whas the most influent on cal lore azafure?
jaunty wraith
Somthing I've been wondering
Is old Duke actually stronger then Providence or I'd that just a gameplay thing?
dusk laurel
yes, going by progression, old duke is generally stronger
jaunty wraith
Progression wise yeah, but lore wise it feels silly that one of the most powerful gods... is weaker then an old ass fish
jaunty wraith
Isn't he the same species as Duke fishron?
jaunty wraith
Oh damn, didn't know about that bug redesign
dusk laurel
Isn't he the same species as Duke fishron?
duke fishron isnt a fish either, its a species of dragon (the definition of dragon is more vague since the auric dragons came in many different shapes and sizes, and their descendents evolved even further from each other)
jaunty wraith
I thought he was a descendent of the dragons, adapting fish like qualities for the ocean
dark sundial
Boomer fishroom is a fishroom that some years ago bought a house and a car for rly cheap and complains that other fishroom have things easy and are weak
Xd
late veldt
What wings is Yharim talking about in Awakening? Did Yharim get a special deal at Buffalo Wild Wings for being a hero or something
late veldt
Yeah but he's never seen with any
robust osprey
maybe he's refering to yharon wings..? no clue tbh
or maybe just dragon wings in general
magic epoch
maybe he's refering to yharon wings..? no clue tbh
so yes buffalo wild wings
frozen zodiac
What wings is Yharim talking about in Awakening? Did Yharim get a special deal a...
my best guess is that its meant to be a metaphor about all that he has left considering its followed up by "how long has it been since i was a hero worthy of their name?"
untold forge
Simply consider the following
grand notch
I'm going to assume I'm not the only one bothered by the fact that the lyrics in SCal's theme don't match how she's currently depicted in the lore?
long bloom
sbc lyrics aren't canon
grand notch
It still bugs me a bit
languid badge
its a weird thing to be bothered by ngl
the lyrics are barely recognizable anyway even if you know them
grand notch
It's a whatever thing, I know
long bloom
i can understand the lyrics but only because i listened to it every day for a year
grand notch
It's just a little thing that bothers me
long bloom
What wings is Yharim talking about in Awakening? Did Yharim get a special deal a...
i thought it was referring to the wings he has in the old title art (i'm gonna say drew's wings from context)
dark sundial
Best true melee weapon for yharon?
languid badge
murasama
pulsar ocean
Loreous
robust osprey
astrum loreus
pulsar ocean
If you get infected by astral infection do you just get astrum as a title
modern lichen
Astrum BoS
late veldt
i thought it was referring to the wings he has in the old title art (i'm gonna s...
who the hell are the other four people with the glint
pulsar ocean
who the hell are the other four people with the glint
Gurt
robust osprey
probably just random yharmy members
limpid saddle
my interpretation's better
yeah but that doesnt look like Yharon
bold dragon
can providence get wrinkle
limpid saddle
at all
sinful adder
yeah but that doesnt look like Yharon
look closer. It's a weird old design
the mouth is wrong but it has to be yharon
bold dragon
i'm questtioning why she's enraged if we wake her up on night time is it because we disturbed her beauty sleep
sinful adder
no, dragonfolly doesn't have teeth
I mean neither does yharon but
it's standing behind yharim, surely it is just a weird early yharon design
long bloom
yeah it's def yharon
bold dragon
no, dragonfolly doesn't have teeth
but dragonfolly mouth is fully what that dark yellow color
while yharon have black beak
sinful adder
it's just shaded
long bloom
dragonfolly's eyes aren't orange
bold dragon
yharon's mouth is actually exactly that color
hmm but yharon eyes is green
bold dragon
No it isn't
in the new sprite
sinful adder
Well that art is based on the old sprite
Man the shit looks so ass, I forgot how bad it was
bold dragon
long bloom
the art is really old
that sprite is relatively new
also what did you do to the pixels
bold dragon
oh
sinful adder
This image is also extremely old btw. I'm not sure if it still looks like that
bold dragon
also what did you do to the pixels
smoothing it up
sinful adder
Whatever you did looks bad
long bloom
This image is also extremely old btw. I'm not sure if it still looks like that
it looks like this now
sinful adder
Sick...
long bloom
shading is a bit different
bold dragon
it looks like this now
where did his magnificent wings go
long bloom
animation hell
sinful adder
Yeah I noticed. It's hard to tell exactly what's different but it definitely looks better
I assume the wings will be animated behind the body
Or made separately and then stitched on
long bloom
the arms, tip of tail and all the gold bits are the most different
and the plume is a lot glossier
bold dragon
I assume the wings will be animated behind the body
or maybe it will appear in his secind phase
long bloom
also the eyes are a bit more seperated
prime mauve
it looks like this now
no he doesn't
this is what y'all know of what he looks like right now
sinful adder
or maybe it will appear in his secind phase
That would be really stupid. It's a flying dragon.
Oh hey those are some different looking legs
Very good looking legs
Hey, is yharon related to this?
They've both got red and green feathery hair, 6 limbs, and a beak
long bloom
👁️👁️
prime mauve
(it's actually more done than any prior version ever)
untold forge
this is what y'all know of what he looks like right now
Huge
I hit send trying to turn off the ping my b
Back into my hole
sinful adder
(it's actually more done than any prior version ever)
will it be in SSO
stark basalt
i thought it was referring to the wings he has in the old title art (i'm gonna s...
should remake the logo tbh
like 4 NPCs standing that is not Yharim or Yharon idk who those are
stark basalt
they dont look like Draedon or SCal
stark basalt
ok actually no it was remade but its just title zero characters in background
stark basalt
ok actually no it was remade but its just title zero characters in background
already aware of it dw
still want to see a version with Yharim and the wings but whatever
long bloom
that would be neat
stark basalt
I still wanna know who those 4 guys were
prime mauve
Yharun, Yhardo, Yhartre, and Yarq
stark basalt
ok yeah nvm it was never disclosed just random ass soldiers or clones
limpid saddle
Oh my god they made them resprite him again????
long bloom
back to the wing mines
tropic oak
whatdda mean he hesitated?
why did you hesitate to kill the big bad?
what did you do boy........
tropic oak
ok but that would not explain at all why statis hesitated to kill yharim
sinful adder
whatdda mean he *hesitated?*
we don't actually know. This is yharim's retelling of the story
high lynx
Oh trueee
high lynx
whatdda mean he *hesitated?*
Also where is this written?
tropic oak
Also where is this written?
in cal lore doc
tropic oak
a dash so i assume a creator note
unborn wind
ok but that would not explain at all why statis hesitated to kill yharim
i would personally imagine its the whole "oh shit im about to literally actually murder a guy"
but im not sure
and idf if statis has Killed before
tropic oak
i wouldnt say so. morality was not an issue here.
unborn wind
idk*
high lynx
I wouldnt think if this line as fact
tropic oak
high lynx
It’s somebody’s interpretation
tropic oak
it would have extremely interesting implications if Statis truly did hesitate to kill Yharim, though!
unborn wind
i wouldnt say so. morality was not an issue here.
i wasnt trying to say he thoguht killing yharim was Wrong i just mean like. thers a lot of death in calamity so its easy to forget but killing another person has a very terrible effect on people who are Normal even if the kill was completely justified. but again like you said he is a ninja so idfk
he hesitated to kill yharim cuz he knew deep down fuck this is suppsoed to be the final boss and im an npc its not my place
tropic oak
LOL
knotty pewter
I AM VERY CURIOUS ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I CAUGHT IT ON MY LIKE 283RD REREAD OF THE LORE DOC AND WASL IKE. wait. why the FUCK did he HESITATE
knotty pewter
he hesitated to kill yharim cuz he knew deep down fuck this is suppsoed to be th...
TRUE
high lynx
I AM VERY CURIOUS ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I CAUGHT IT ON MY LIKE 283RD REREAD OF THE ...
ITS A CREATOR NOTE
i disagree with multiple of those notes
knotty pewter
he hesitated on purpose cuz he knew it'd make for good lore
he looked the bury ur gays trope straight in the eyes and decided he would take hold of his OWN DESTINY and bury the gays himself
high lynx
None off the top of my head but yeah
unborn wind
he looked the bury ur gays trope straight in the eyes and decided he would take ...
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
long bloom
do we know how many years ago the fight was
unborn wind
it was extremely recent
like under a year ago
iirc
if not under then like. a little over
long bloom
so yharim got he ass beat and then immediately exiled himself to the aerie?
that's funny as fuck
unborn wind
braelor and statis fight -> a few months -> armor upgrade with draedon -> a few months -> current
well not IMMEDIATELY for real but practically immediately lol
yharim only departed to the aerie after getting his upgrades from draedon
solar wharf
i wasnt trying to say he thoguht killing yharim was Wrong i just mean like. ther...
"normal" is keyword here, humans might have a hard time to cope to killing, but it gets heavily easy once that person is painted as an enemy and killing them is okay because either they are evil (in the case of yharim) or they'd kill you back (also in the case of yharim). that's how soldiers cope with killing tens of people. and a soldier is much more normal than a ninja + i doubt a ninja would struggle to kill a genocidal maniac that practically wiped his clan.
knotty pewter
ITS A CREATOR NOTE
its still fair game for speculation 💔💔 statis is agile i think itd be fair to say that he wasn't necessarily overpowered but rather caught off-guard
limpid saddle
Maybe he saw Braelor & had a profound little realization about the value of human life before that fuckass worm made their regular yaoi doomed yaoi
solar wharf
"normal" is keyword here, humans might have a hard time to cope to killing, but ...
this is also seemingly a world with very similar moral beliefs or living conditions of a medieval civilization. which killing there was extremely common
even pleasure was gained out of it in the form of public executions
so for statis to hinder himself because of "oh but killing is bad :(" doesn't make much sense in the context
tropic oak
yharim only departed to the aerie after getting his upgrades from draedon
jevil is it u on the lore doc
like on the fanclubs
unborn wind
naur
tropic oak
i wonder who this myserious user is.
unborn wind
my shadow clone
unborn wind
shiiiid youre writing about draedon i might ahve to show up then
tropic oak
only a little bit :)
dusk laurel
Oh my god they made them resprite him again????
do you know the concept of sprite iterations
snow mountain
so diaful, scrumptious
snow mountain
do you know the concept of sprite iterations
cal user does not understand art; more at 11
limpid saddle
do you know the concept of sprite iterations
Yeah but that sprite we had was so detailed & it was just tossed out, seemed so final & everything
Im saying it in the sense I feel bad for the spriters that have been at this for years
snow mountain
Yeah but that sprite we had was so detailed & it was just tossed out, seemed so ...
yeah but like id rather a consistent artstyle for yharon stuff than an inconsistent one (even if cal is the literal opposite of that)
wheat walrus
dang we had lowk and highk now we got midk
drowsy mirage
ts the one
snow mountain
Old yharon midkey better sprite
i will shrink you down and put you under a magnifying glass in the sun
snow mountain
yeah but like id rather a consistent artstyle for yharon stuff than an inconsist...
also dia sprites are genuinely the peakest shit ever so
just look at his previous yharon-related sprites (that one yharon-head bow)
wheat walrus
we need lowmidk and midhighk
drowsy mirage
i will shrink you down and put you under a magnifying glass in the sun
Soz g
drowsy mirage
we need lowmidk and midhighk
ong bro ur on to sm
snow mountain
it looks like this now
besides, this sprite was more of a posed bit of concept art
which would be hell torture to animate
snow mountain
🤨
drowsy mirage
🤨
wheat walrus
drowsy mirage
I saw this video about 2 weeks ago bossman
drowsy mirage
thank you lost woods from the underrated indie classic ocarina of time
Actually Majoras Mask 3D
Its not
solar wharf
literally 1984 💔 💔 💔
solar wharf
WHAT THE FUCK!!!!
cloud ibex
Yeah
drowsy mirage
Cheers mate
real silo
Yeah but that sprite we had was so detailed & it was just tossed out, seemed so ...
Who said it was tossed out?
It could literally just be edited
Small improvements and shit
I don't know how you arrived at the conclusion that they completely remade the sprite from scratch
snow mountain
besides, this sprite was more of a posed bit of concept art
also this too
dusk laurel
Yeah but that sprite we had was so detailed & it was just tossed out, seemed so ...
what?
it wasnt tossed out
it just got updated
prime mauve
Yeah but that sprite we had was so detailed & it was just tossed out, seemed so ...
It didn't even have a finished back wing
also, different spriters have different styles
I'm sure Dia could have continued with that one had they wanted to, but they also didn't want to (and thank goodness because the new one is so good)
snow mountain
this is what i mean
magic epoch
(it's actually more done than any prior version ever)
this is typically how progress works
supple bluff
Someone has to mod this in or else I will
snow mountain
🐴 are you serious
faint plank
hilarious
limpid saddle
Who said it was tossed out?
do you see the incredibly distinct change in artstyle & how the talons/feet are sprited
john wulfrum even called it a new sprite
snow mountain
what the hell are you talking about
dusk laurel
do you see the incredibly distinct change in artstyle & how the talons/feet are ...
thats just
updating a sprite
real silo
Yeah lmfao
It's still the same framework
Just because it looks a little different does not mean it's something different entirely
It's still very obviously meant to be the same sprite
supple bluff
So do y'all think Yharim will have wings
pliant ruin
possible
supple bluff
I think he should at least for a phase because no way you rampage the planet and don't find yourself some wings, they are game changing (literally and figuratively)
snow mountain
So do y'all think Yharim will have wings
you've got a point
supple bluff
As someone who glazes the fuck out of angels I think Drew's wings wouldn't only make sense because they are the best wings you can get but also because I think it would be a really cool contrast in his color scheme. You could even choose to think deeper about having white angel like wings meaning something about him or his purpose
pliant ruin
drew wings are a dev item
supple bluff
Bonus points if they ever respited it to make them look even more insane, maybe some Auric gold accents
pliant ruin
they dont exist they arent real
gritty kraken
can’t believe yharim killed yharon for drew wing
supple bluff
Are they? It doesn't say that in the wiki -
dusk laurel
i thought drews wings had plans that would make them more yharon adjacent
pliant ruin
theyre literally called Drew like Andrew like John Fabsol
young socket
the name for drews wings came from drew yeah
young socket
i thought drews wings had plans that would make them more yharon adjacent
but yes also this
more than likely when they get their resprite itll be rethemed
theyre still a recolour of solar wings rn so lol
supple bluff
Yeah but like, it doesn't say developer item on the wiki
Unless it does ingane
Game*
young socket
it doesnt
snow mountain
it is canon like my main man daedalus
rain thorn
As someone who glazes the fuck out of angels I think Drew's wings wouldn't only ...
Aren't Drew's wings getting rethemed to Yharon wings
young socket
Aren't Drew's wings getting rethemed to Yharon wings
yes
WAIT
mayb
actually nah
meager gorge
@mortal star
real silo
Is that xeroc
snow mountain
no its his cousin joe biden
crystal pendant
joey B
rain thorn
They're clearly not gonna stay as straight up just a recolor of solar wings forever
crimson junco
Aw hell nah this lore talk has a lot of spoilers
I have to take a dive in here now 😔
snow mountain
the lore is a burger, it has now spoiled
modern lichen
no its his cousin joe biden
The world world is scared of a prime Joe Biden
crystal pendant
the pentapods are coming
supple bluff
So genuine question kinda for a mod but can we talk about spoilers in this channel in regards to upcoming lore?
Like referring to things like the sky city and NPC's we are getting?
robust osprey
yea
cloud ibex
the pentapods are coming
throw me to the pentapods and i'll come back with a spidertron
pulsar ocean
Does Jared get enraged if you come to fight him with solar armor or only rod of discord
supple bluff
I don't see how this is lore relevant 
prime mauve
nahhh theyll definitely stay as recoloured solar wings
Recolored to orange like yharon:)
pulsar ocean
I don't see how this is lore relevant <:HDhurdur:360476071004471297>
How do you decide whether something is lore relevant 😡
robust osprey
I don't see how this is lore relevant <:HDhurdur:360476071004471297>
it is, jared hates primordial light usurpers, solar fragments are primordial light
normal raven
The world world is scared of a prime Joe Biden
Biden prime
cloud ibex
Does Jared get enraged if you come to fight him with solar armor or only rod of ...
just rod
it's based on whether or not you have chaos state
though solar armor would be kinda funny, if maybe also a bit annoying sometimes
sinful adder
Yeah that's right
Zeratros' wings, perhaps?
tidal tulip
Yharon be holding onto his dead king's wings for almost a thousand years
pliant ruin
zeratros's real name was drew
dark sundial
How the terrarian being immortal is explained in the cal lore?
modern lichen
Biden prime
Try saying that 3 times in a mirror 😰
pliant ruin
respawning isnt canon
outer wyvern
my headcanon is that Yhrarim has somthing to do with it.
i mean, npcs respawn, so it kinda works
don't ask me on the how though
long bloom
it's not canon
outer wyvern
dark sundial
it's not canon
Yharon theme references that
long bloom
Yharon theme references that
where
pliant ruin
yes
dark sundial
Sec
pliant ruin
its mandela effect
spare pier
hi rebecca can I ask a question?
Sure
dark sundial
its mandela effect
Oh
Why not making therrarian respawning cannon? Is one the things that happen the most in cal
light linden
Sure
is the malachite made from plague or something?
or have you never thought about it?
pliant ruin
Why not making therrarian respawning cannon? Is one the things that happen the m...
because it'd be bad for the story
just because it happens ingame dosen't mean it impacts the narrative
light linden
Why not making therrarian respawning cannon? Is one the things that happen the m...
it's a direct contradiction to several things in lore
young socket
well both yharon and provi wouldnt fight you since thered be no point in fighting someone who cant be incapacitated
dark sundial
But the player dying a shit ton of time is one of the things that describes cal
young socket
pliant ruin
But the player dying a shit ton of time is one of the things that describes cal
no it isnt that just describes literally any hard game
and like why does that matter
young socket
well both yharon and provi wouldnt fight you since thered be no point in fightin...
like atleast for silvas case she can still be incapicated enough to be thrown into the abyss unwillingly
pliant ruin
if the player canonically respawned there'd be several implications like. How. and why do half of the bosses ifght the player if theyre literally immortal and are going to win no matter what
spare pier
is the malachite made from plague or something?
Yeah
light linden
ok ty
dark sundial
Yharim loving bees is still cannon?
dusk laurel
^
dark sundial
So he wasnt mad bcs draedon turned the queen bees into plaguebringers?
pliant ruin
he was mad because turning a sentient being into a mindless cyborg is taking away its control which is the one thing yharim despises the most (slavery basically)
dark sundial
It would be cool if we didnt kill yharim and just defeat him like we do with scal and make him speak: Yk? I always wanted to be a beekeper
gaunt sluice
It would be cool if he died of a heart attack mid final speech
dark sundial
They could make him have a heart attack if we take too long to kill him
gaunt sluice
Make them being idk controled by xeroc to test the terrarian
Also this is what happens in the boss rush basically
But yeah the only canon bossfight you have is the one where you win
dark sundial
Xeroc can just make a army or calamitas if he wants?
pulsar ocean
How much king slimes to beat xeroc
pulsar ocean
Obviously
crystal pendant
more like how many xerocs to beat king slime
pliant ruin
It would be cool if we didnt kill yharim and just defeat him like we do with sca...
Yea thats not happening
Calamitas gets a second chance because she isn't the mod's main villain and has actual reasons to be kept alive given she's striving to be a better person and regrets her actions, being manipulated as a child and all
Yharim is still pretty fucked up and evil and literally the Bad Guy of The Mod not killing him would be as anticlimatic as it can get
outer wyvern
Calamitas gets a second chance because she isn't the mod's main villain and has ...
a man can dream, alright? (also, there's 100% going to be an addon mod that does just that.)
pliant ruin
i can see someone making that yeah
robust osprey
reminds me of an image of scal chilling and then "Yharim the godseeker has arrived!" shows up
sinful adder
Insert that one Naruto image as someone has said a few times but I can't find
pulsar ocean
Yharim is still pretty fucked up and evil and literally the Bad Guy of The Mod n...
You can fix him
No one is truly evil
young socket
You can fix him
no.
modern lichen
<a:a_afx_rb_sparkles_glitter:1248025817414369411> respawning isnt canon <a:a_afx...
Isn’t there dialogue with some bosses after making a second attempt?
pulsar ocean
The fight with calamitas is more like sparring if I'm not mistaken
modern lichen
The fight with calamitas is more like sparring if I'm not mistaken
It definitely sounds like it
The dialogue makes it sound like it’s around the time that the Terrarian would go fight yharim
cosmic minnow
Why is there a sparring like Dialoge for Calamitas in the first place? I highly doubt the nature of her magic and her personality would make Calamitas go „yea ofc we can fight again.“
snow mountain
Calamitas gets a second chance because she isn't the mod's main villain and has ...
she is also the most marketable aspect of the mod
cosmic minnow
she is also the most marketable aspect of the mod
Evil
cosmic minnow
Yea, I have one
Why is she the most marketable
She’s just a fan favorite I think?
snow mountain
she's literally named after the mod
its like having an npc called john spirit in spirit mod
cosmic minnow
John spirit 😭
deft vessel
🔥✍️
cosmic minnow
I need a Calamitas mousepad
cloud ibex
she's named after the mod, she's a late game boss, she's a woman
cosmic minnow
But like, one of those big ones that you can use for keyboard and mouse
cloud ibex
lot of things working in her favor in terms of being recognizeable
long bloom
Why is there a sparring like Dialoge for Calamitas in the first place? I highly ...
she wants to help you get stronger so you can beat yharim's ass
she's not a horrible person, mostly just brainwashed
snow mountain
she's named after the mod, she's a late game boss, she's a woman
and why would the last point be a relevant factor?
wheat walrus
Weirdos
snow mountain
😔
cloud ibex
a bit of that but mostly just cause it sounded funny to point out in my head
wheat walrus
she's named after the mod, she's a late game boss, she's a woman
Ytshorts edit of anime voice guy saying this message and it drops immediately after the line "she's a woman"
cloud ibex
there's also that she's been in the mod for ages
even if during most of it she didn't look like she does now
she's an OG
cosmic minnow
even if during most of it she didn't look like she does now
From cursed eyeball to a woman with too many simps
snow mountain
Weirdos
if she was the opposite gender, I doubt cal would be nearly as popular as it is now
cosmic minnow
Are you sure?
snow mountain
have you seen the community surrounding cal at large??
snow mountain
clarify
wheat walrus
Are you shore
snow mountain
sea shore
deft vessel
🏖️
snow mountain
going to the glue factory
deft vessel
Gloop
snow mountain
anyway i think id be much more positive about cal if the elementals didn't exist
its taken wayy too long for them to actually become good
🙏 may dia save us from this hell
cloud ibex
i'd be much more positive about the elementals in general if i could put brimmy in a meat grinder
she will be reduced to a fibrous powder
no more
snow mountain
she will be reduced to a fibrous powder
reminds me of the sand elemental body pillow incident
cosmic minnow
reminds me of the sand elemental body pillow incident
The what-
since when is that a thing?
cloud ibex
you know what i feel like i'd rather there be no elaboration
snow mountain
i regret my statement
cosmic minnow
Yes prolly better
What the fuck
I did not need to know such a thing ever existed
Anyways, what flavor of tea does Calamitas drink?
snow mountain
tea but with no milk
deft vessel
Tea with some more tea
cosmic minnow
Who puts milk in tea?
deft vessel
Has thou heard of milk tea
cosmic minnow
Has thou heard of milk tea
Most certainly, what preposterous assumption made thou think I have not? My question wasn’t simply if I have or have not, but why one would indulge in such filth?
no seriously, why would someone drink that
deft vessel
mighty zenith
hell
long bloom
there's also that she's been in the mod for ages
update 1.1, june 8th 2016
i just finished writing down every calamity update number and name because i hate myself
cloud ibex
damn she's even older than i thought
long bloom
why does 1.1 have ONE HUNDRED AND NINETEEN versions
cloud ibex
i expected her to have been added, like, a year into the mod's history or something but no she was really not too long after the start
cosmic minnow
Funny number
bold dragon
also fun fact
ravager was added on 4/20
Why does the date should be 420
snow mountain
It’s ravager
that is why ravager is in my dream blunt rotation fr
lofty gyro
is cthulhu in calamity killed before the draconic era
and the part of body (eye of cthulhu, brain, skeletron) were seperated across the world in terraria
faint plank
its wrong
lofty gyro
I see a YouTube video
said moon lord real name is Fovos
and it changed to moonlord
somehow
the calamity lore
limpid saddle
the calamity lore
Fovos is another title for him, he's called 'Moon Lord' because he was sealed inside it until we kill Lunatic Cultist & he breaks out with the Pillars
lofty gyro
so he got caged
lofty gyro
then what is eye brain of cthulhu in calamity
limpid saddle
Moon Lord is just some mf from space that killed like 150 Auric Dragons & then got lobotomized & ripped in half
limpid saddle
then what is eye brain of cthulhu in calamity
Eye Of Cthulu just comes from the evil biomes
lofty gyro
Moon Lord is just some mf from space that killed like 150 Auric Dragons & then g...
yeah whipped out draconic era
gritty kraken
then what is eye brain of cthulhu in calamity
they just grow out of crimson/corruption ground one day
limpid saddle
Brain is the coalescing God Essence of all the evil god corpses that formed the Crimson trying to come back together
Like with Hivemind but worse because it's Evil 1 instead of Evil 2
pliant ruin
Brain is the coalescing God Essence of all the evil god corpses that formed the ...
No brain isn't that
that's perforators
limpid saddle
Yeah basically those 'disease' biomes, outside of Astral Infection, are what happens when you kill a God & then leave it's corpse to rot
lofty gyro
Yeah basically those 'disease' biomes, outside of Astral Infection, are what hap...
what god got killed
limpid saddle
what god got killed
It was a shit-load of them
pliant ruin
genocide type beat
limpid saddle
But I think the strongest one was The God Of War
That formed the Crimson I believe
Well
Strongest before Yharim figured out he needed to actually get rid of God corpses & their divine essence
pliant ruin
yeah i think there was smth about god of awr in the crimson
it was kind of a one off dev statement tho so we don't know if it's guaranteed or have much info on it
manic coral
you know i'm suprised that it's taken this long for somebody to ask this
snow mountain
you know i'm suprised that it's taken this long for somebody to ask this
asking the real questions fr
lofty gyro
It was a shit-load of them
so many god killed and evil biome spread
lofty gyro
It was a shit-load of them
so many god killed and evil biome spread
yharim is diabolical
limpid saddle
you know i'm suprised that it's taken this long for somebody to ask this
i guess we dont really think about shimmer as having lore implications
since it's never mentioned by anyone
ever
snow mountain
LEAN
lofty gyro
you know i'm suprised that it's taken this long for somebody to ask this
a person who thinks all the time
lofty gyro
But I think the strongest one was The God Of War
what is it
limpid saddle
what is it
rephrase?
limpid saddle
he was the god of war
lofty gyro
yharim?
limpid saddle
that was their domain
lofty gyro
he was the god of war
is it title or something
limpid saddle
Ok, so you know Gods are people that used Auric Souls from Auric Dragons in a ritual to ascend right?
limpid saddle
Ok
lofty gyro
I just confused by "god of war"
are there any god that really strong and called god of war
limpid saddle
So Auric Souls inherently possess a 'domain', what they preside over & control
When a God ascends, unless they are 100% in-tune with the soul they ascend with, get an Imperfect Ascension, where they are given a domain related to the original domain, but not the original itself
Like with Slime God, Dragon of Gluttony to God Of Slime
Dragon of Flame to Goddess Of Ash (Providence)
Dragon of Storms (Vetrasyl) to Goddess Of Lightning/Electricity (Otonilou)
So on so forth
lofty gyro
Absolute Cinema
robust osprey
When a God ascends, unless they are 100% in-tune with the soul they ascend with,...
are you sure that's how perfect ascension is made
lofty gyro
so there is the god of war
limpid saddle
So there was probably like a 'Dragon Of Bloodshed' that was killed & then the God that ascended became The God Of War
robust osprey
also when wad the god of war revealed
limpid saddle
are you sure that's how perfect ascension is made
I mean yeah, it'd what the lore channel generaly agrees on
lofty gyro
So there was probably like a 'Dragon Of Bloodshed' that was killed & then the Go...
who is it
lofty gyro
also when wad the god of war revealed
ist not revealed yet
limpid saddle
As before ascension Xeroc was bonded to Zeratros like Yharim is to Yharon
young socket
I mean yeah, it'd what the lore channel generaly agrees on
generally agrees does not mean correct
young socket
also when wad the god of war revealed
triangle mentioned it when he said he had ideas for 2nd evil boss redesigns
limpid saddle
also when wad the god of war revealed
& it wasnt 'revealed' it was just said 'yeah one of the gods that formed the crimson was the god of war' or something to that effect
robust osprey
I'm pretty sure this channel in general agrees on the theory that zeratros consented xeroc to absorb its soul
but it isnt confirmed
lofty gyro
& it wasnt 'revealed' it was just said 'yeah one of the gods that formed the cri...
is it going to be superboss
limpid saddle
These are things we infer through dev statements & developing theories
robust osprey
crimson is dead escenses of gods
limpid saddle
is it going to be superboss
The God of War?
no
hes a corpse
you cant
you cant kill someone thats already dead
lofty gyro
alr alr
robust osprey
well I mean ravager is dead and we rekill it 
limpid saddle
Noxus & Xeroc will (maybe) be superbosses
lofty gyro
change the timeline
limpid saddle
go back and kill em
They'd be weak as hell
lofty gyro
Noxus & Xeroc will (maybe) be superbosses
isn't noxus removed
limpid saddle
isn't noxus removed
It was removed from WOTG, the non-canon add-on
lofty gyro
wotg isn't related to official?
lofty gyro
alr
limpid saddle
Noxus is a really important lore figure
limpid saddle
We know nothing about him but he's basically the king of the distortion
lofty gyro
We know nothing about him but he's basically the king of the distortion
literally broke our screen
limpid saddle
literally broke our screen
again wotg not canon
that noxus fight isnt real didnt happen
lofty gyro
mb
snow mountain
its also no longer canon to cal's continuity as of recent, instead adhering to fables
limpid saddle
terrarian inhaled too much carbon monoxide
snow mountain
decade
lofty gyro
no more update
snow mountain
give or take
lofty gyro
I would died of age first instead of playing it
dusk laurel
50$ steam gift card 💔
cosmic sable
quick question, i heard theres a lore doc, where is it?
pliant ruin
pins
cosmic sable
thx
pliant ruin
like a month ago
strange stump
hello people
dusk laurel
hey space
late veldt
space? when's time gonna show up?
pulsar ocean
if you pushed a auric dragon into shimmer would their auric soul decompose into a world soul fragment
clever raft
Is the boss rush actually xeroc? or is it zeratros
haughty seal
Is the boss rush actually xeroc? or is it zeratros
its Xeroc
Zeratros has been dead for 800 years
civic juniper
didnt xeroc absoorb zeratros auric soul
young socket
yes
limpid saddle
he did do that its true
uncut tree
yo, someone can catch me up on EOF in calamity lore? i lowkey forgot her role
hoary cape
empress of flight lol
magic epoch
*proceeds to not answer*
young socket
cant answer smthn i dont know
unless u mean the asker in which case
¯_(ツ)_/¯
shouldve been checking chat instead of expecting a ping
long bloom
yo, someone can catch me up on EOF in calamity lore? i lowkey forgot her role
!wiki lore items
pliant islandBOT
long bloom
go read hers
magic epoch
is there even anything special to her
long bloom
no
long bloom
that's it
long bloom
it is called primordial light yes
pulsar ocean
Did xeroc actually do nothing for the past 800 years
young socket
wtf ur a patreon now
magic epoch
Did xeroc actually do nothing for the past 800 years
i know he trained! after becoming a god
i know nothing else
pulsar ocean
Xeroc could've cured cancer but he decided to hit the gym for 800 years
young socket
heard of patreons getting the full sprite and immediately got patreon lol
dusk laurel
lmao
long bloom
correct
mint kernel
is there any sort of correlation from the betsy to yharon?
elfin yarrow
which is also why deerclops isn't real either
Schizophrenia final boss
magic epoch
is that the debuff that deerclops inflicts
long bloom
do all humans originate from azafure?
robust osprey
I think chrysadia had humans
and also like
guide isn't native azafurian
the underground cabins were used by people
and clothier chippy isn't azafurian afaik, atleast not native
same with basically every town npc...
besides cal obviously
and non humans
and that's only for heartlands
there are more continents
and heartlands was the most affected by yharim's shit
so the rest aren't as fucked up as heartlands probably
but yharim still went outside heartlands
long bloom
huh?
pulsar ocean
I *think* chrysadia had humans
What's that
robust osprey
sky
long bloom
sky island civilization
long bloom
I *think* chrysadia had humans
but if azafure was the first city, couldn't chrysadians have been from there too?
same with everything else
robust osprey
was it..?
robust osprey
maybe it's like the first city that stands (before brimmy)
robust osprey
also that
robust osprey
reaching heaven throught hell
dusk laurel
so true
long bloom
azafure was also founded 1,000 years before chrysadia got nuked
long bloom
azafure was also founded 1,000 years before chrysadia got nuked
they could've gotten up there and built stuff in that time
pulsar ocean
What idiots even live in the sky how do you mine there and gather food
robust osprey
sky pigs
long bloom
maybe it's like the first city that stands (before brimmy)
"oft called the first city, its tumultuous history stretches back to the draconic era"
it was literally founded in year 0
that's how old it is
the calendar is centered around it
robust osprey
that's azafurian calendar
pulsar ocean
I forgot which kingdom or city calamitas nuked
long bloom
not the same thing
robust osprey
there's more calendars
long bloom
I forgot which kingdom or city calamitas nuked
ilmeris
and she helped a little in nuking azafure too
robust osprey
well she tried defending it
long bloom
collateral damage
pulsar ocean
Ilmeris sounds familiar but I can't quite put my finger on it
long bloom
sunken sea
long bloom
was formerly in the desert and ss
dusk laurel
azafure was also founded 1,000 years before chrysadia got nuked
yeah but chrysadia was built not that long after
long bloom
source?
dusk laurel
not everything needs to be connected
robust osprey
also there are more kingdoms
that we don't see
beacuse we play in one single continent
dusk laurel
like
robust osprey
a considerably small one iirc
dusk laurel
mesopotamia was the first civilization
pulsar ocean
beacuse we play in one single continent
Can't wait for the continents update
dusk laurel
it wasnt the origin of all the others
spare pier
You also have to remember traditional humans aren't the only dominant race in Cal