#lore-discussion

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dark sundial
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Sepulchor is sentient?

pliant ruin
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i forgot about sepulcher

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maybe not that one

magic epoch
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(or destroyer)

dark sundial
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Boomer fishroom probably

pliant ruin
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depends on whether undead are sentient or not

pliant ruin
magic epoch
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WHAT

pliant ruin
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it has several human souls controlling it

magic epoch
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ineed to leave this wrvwr

pliant ruin
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all the mechs are sentient

dark sundial
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Ceaseless is sentient?

pliant ruin
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ceaseless is not a worm

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but no

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it isnt

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its a object

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it isn't alive even

dark sundial
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As is just a big worm right?

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Just big chill worm

pliant ruin
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Aquatic scourge is a big worm snake fish thing yeah

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not much special to say about it its just a really big animal

dark sundial
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Its funny that he is the only boss that do not attack you right away

magic epoch
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do the enemy killing ones count

dark sundial
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How much bigger the primordia wrym is compared to AS?

pulsar ocean
pliant ruin
pliant ruin
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skeletron prime literally is powered by the souls of war criminals

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like

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unironically

dark sundial
pliant ruin
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the reason theyre called souls of fright is specifically because the souls used where of the most vicious and cruel of the yharmy members

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skeletron prime is powered by war criminals

pliant ruin
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u can just check their sprites

dark sundial
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And destroyer is the strongest of the 3 mech bosses?

pliant ruin
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no

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they're all equal in strenght

dark sundial
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But destroyer soul is literaly soul of might

prime mauve
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clearly destroyer is made out of people who were unreliable

cloud ibex
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thorium boss projectile meme resprite hd remaster

prime mauve
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just like him

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he might be annoying, he might be free

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soul of might

pliant ruin
dark sundial
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How old calamitas was when she fought the brimstone elemental?

pliant ruin
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probably around like 12

dark sundial
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So she is the strongest magic user in cal lore besides noxus and xeroc?

cloud ibex
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iunno if xeroc quite counts as a mage and we don't know what the fuck is up with noxus in general

spare pier
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If you're counting Noxus as a mage, Yharim is one too HDfailure

cloud ibex
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so i'd say she qualifies as The Strongest Purely Magic User

spare pier
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And PW

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And everything else

dark sundial
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Imagine if the rebels found calamitas

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What would happen?

spare pier
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Wdym?

pulsar ocean
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Noxus gives off good person vibes he's never been shown but he's already my favorite character

dark sundial
# spare pier Wdym?

If the guys that were against yharim found calamitas and raised her they would have a shot against yharim?

spare pier
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"Guys that were against Yharim" means "the entire fucking planet"

dark sundial
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Oh

spare pier
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If you were not with him, you were against him

pliant ruin
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thats his ultimate goal

dark sundial
spare pier
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Yeah

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Anyways

pliant ruin
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i love it when this happens !

spare pier
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The answer is that it depends entirely on who found her

dark sundial
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I feel bad for calamitas she got groomed since a young age by yharim

spare pier
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Some people would be sensible and Not Use Her As A Nuke

pulsar ocean
spare pier
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Some would

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But the chances they actually beat Yharim is slim

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He has an entire army, they had one really strong weapon

dark sundial
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I think that the only decent guy that was in yharim army was permafrost

pliant ruin
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Permafrost is a good guy i'd say but he still sided with like the worst person in the world and i feel like people overlook that

pulsar ocean
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define good guy

dark sundial
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Didnt he left yharim side after he became a tyrant?

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Bcs yharim became a big asshole

young socket
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he was with yharim for like

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a while

pulsar ocean
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define a while

dark sundial
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I mean he was at least the most decent guy on yharim army

spare pier
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He left Yharim after

  • He hired the bitchass worm
  • Ordered the construction of 50 orphan killers
  • Killed millions of people
  • Hired a child as a soldier
dark sundial
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Oprhan killers?

spare pier
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Stand in for every war crime he made

pulsar ocean
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why didnt yharim just ask draedon to clone him 40 times that'd be enough to beat xeroc

light linden
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hi rebecca

dark sundial
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And yharim is as strong as calamitas

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So ye

pulsar ocean
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he could but without magic

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and yharim is just a guy

cloud ibex
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yeah no he seemingly did clone calamitas perfectly well

spare pier
light linden
cloud ibex
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it's just that whatever makes calamitas so strong isn't genetic

spare pier
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Shoot

pulsar ocean
dark sundial
light linden
dark sundial
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Im prety sure that calamitas is this strong bcs she is a prodigy in magic

spare pier
dark sundial
spare pier
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Either Otonilou or Providence but I'm biased

cloud ibex
pulsar ocean
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nuke magic just doesnt come naturally from birth

dark sundial
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And what the moons are on cal lore?

spare pier
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Moon

light linden
spare pier
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I made Otonilou and am the major writer behind Providence

dark sundial
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I mean pumpkin moon and frost moon

spare pier
light linden
long bloom
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seasonal moons aren't canon

light linden
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I thought it was triangle who made otonilou

dark sundial
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The old ones army isnt cannon too?

long bloom
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no crossover content is canon

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ooa, deerclops, sdmg

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all axed

spare pier
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Why SDMG?

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The fuck does it reference?

light linden
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wait sdmg?

long bloom
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it's from another game

light linden
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???

long bloom
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i forgor which one

dark sundial
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Sdmg is such a cool weapon

spare pier
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Ok but it's not a crossover

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It's just a reference

dark sundial
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So murasama isnt cannon too?

spare pier
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Those are majorly considered non canon too but

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They fall more on the "not directly acknowledged" rather than "these do not exist"

cloud ibex
dark sundial
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Couldnt draedon create a weapon to idk absorb xeroc power or something else?

light linden
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that is a slippery slope for one

long bloom
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with edge of space

light linden
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also he doesn't know about or he knows very little about xeroc

long bloom
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they added a skeletron prime boss

dark sundial
light linden
dark sundial
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But draedon isnt interested in auric souls?

light linden
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what auric soul?

frigid sage
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There are none

light linden
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xeroc doesn't have one

dark sundial
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I think he could create a contraption to make xeroc weaker

pulsar ocean
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you could say thats a crossover

dark sundial
light linden
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yes

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doesn't mean there's one left

frigid sage
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It’s consumed; gone

cloud ibex
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When you ascend, your soul merges with the auric soul, creating something entirely different

dark sundial
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But im prety sure he could create something to absorb xeroc powers

pulsar ocean
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why is it called ascend do we have any footage of that did cameras exist back then

long bloom
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no

cosmic zenith
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Providence... is not my type tbh

fervent palm
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@

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add me

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@cosmic zenith add me

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to the lore

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add me

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]

cosmic zenith
fervent palm
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that is what will happen

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if you dont add me

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right now

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canonisze m.e

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i am god

livid bobcat
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Made a whole dang ttrpg mod to make terraria calamity mod into dnd playable

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So excited to play this week

modern lichen
light linden
cosmic zenith
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Sure

light linden
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it possible that there were auric dragons that lived underwater?

cosmic zenith
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Absolutely

light linden
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ok ty

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been thinking of drawing my take on the seas dragon

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was unsure if it'd be able to even be underwater

modern lichen
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theres ppl here that work on lore?

long bloom
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you kinda need writers to

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yknow

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write the lore

modern lichen
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nah i meant like theyre active in the chat

long bloom
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a lot of devs are active in chat

modern lichen
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i jus joined so i aint know

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thas cool tho

dark sundial
modern lichen
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i just started getting into it

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i love how theres still a lot of info about the characters and places that are still unknown

long bloom
modern lichen
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i did

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even bookmarked it so i can go back and forth while I play\

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kinda wish there was more info about Yharims army and what happened to them and the majoraty of the populated areas that people lived in

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after the war

tidal tulip
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i hope to see a little draedon in the background when we fight yharim

modern lichen
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watching with a digital notepad

long bloom
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there's also some miscellaneous lore that's only been said here, such as:
-mana is stored in the bones
-stars are made of mana
-fallen stars are literal stars
-the sun isn't a star
-the sun is made of primordial light
-the sun orbits the planet
-the sun is less hot than brimstone crags lava

young socket
modern lichen
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i also wondered why Calamitas is stronger than the Brimstone Elemental, or at least depicted as such

long bloom
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i should really read that

modern lichen
dark sundial
modern lichen
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tru

dark sundial
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As a kid she could match brimstone elemental power

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I would love a calamity hq

long bloom
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also
-yharim is ~130 years old
-he killed over 90% of all the gods

dark sundial
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If i knew how to proper drawn i would make one

modern lichen
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but did her powers come from the elemental or did both of their powers come from the same place?

dull burrow
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Wasn't she basically used as a weapon of mass destruction

dark sundial
long bloom
dark sundial
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If im not mistaken

dull burrow
dark sundial
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Calamitas is just built different

modern lichen
dull burrow
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Or well at least she got these powers at a very young age

unborn wind
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calamitas' power is, quite importantly, not from birth

dull burrow
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Oh well that answers that

unborn wind
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there is an entire draedon codebreaker entry about how calamitas' powers aren't genetic

modern lichen
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i also always liked the idea of calamitas being a part of a kill squad put together by yharim to accomplish missions that the other soldiers couldnt

long bloom
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draetalk strikes again

dark sundial
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Even as a todler she could match the weaker gods or this is old lore

unborn wind
long bloom
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sounds like old lore

dull burrow
unborn wind
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she wasn't born with powers

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she literally just wasn't

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hold on

dark sundial
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How old she was when yharim found her

long bloom
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early teens

unborn wind
dark sundial
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Isnt the lore like:
Yharim: look that homeless child can kick asses i will adopt her and groom her

prime mauve
long bloom
dull burrow
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Oh yeah

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Her bestiary entry says it anyway

dark sundial
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It would be funny a AU where yharim is just a good father for calamitas

dull burrow
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"After inheriting nigh limitless magical powers as a mere teenager"

modern lichen
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this was from the pinned lore forum

Screenshot_2025-05-06_201743.png
dull burrow
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Damn she would've been the coolest kid in school had she not been living in a cave like your average league player

dark sundial
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Draedon is full robot? Or is just a suit like iron man?

unborn wind
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full robot

dark sundial
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He turned into full robot?

unborn wind
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he was always one

dark sundial
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Who created him

unborn wind
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technically he's an ai that inhabits multiple recon bodies

unborn wind
dark sundial
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So thats why he got no feelings

modern lichen
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wasnt his body destroyed by the astral infection and he uplouded his conciesness into a metal shell?

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or is that not it?

unborn wind
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draedon has feelings but not morals

unborn wind
modern lichen
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mustve been some random stuff i saw then

unborn wind
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yes because none of that is true to him

dark sundial
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In actual lore yharim still got a kingdom and a army?

spare pier
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Draedon got into a body and tried to explore the Infection

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And failed because that body got overtaken

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Then he just left the body

long bloom
long bloom
unborn wind
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it makes me laugh when i remmember that somewhere out there theres just an Astral Draedon wandering around doing god knows what

modern lichen
spare pier
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It's from Infection Draetalk

modern lichen
long bloom
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sure yeah

modern lichen
spare pier
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My brother in Christ

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Draetalk is ingame

young socket
long bloom
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draetalk is canon

spare pier
modern lichen
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whos draetalk?

long bloom
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draedon talk

modern lichen
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ah

unborn wind
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codebreaker communication feature

long bloom
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you can talk to him

unborn wind
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after you kill exo mechs

modern lichen
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thought that was the name for someone

dark sundial
unborn wind
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well.

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you should

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if youre going to be in here talking about lore

modern lichen
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he talks about his exo tech and stuff

dark sundial
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Maybe i will use it now in my javelin only run

unborn wind
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codebreaker communication is like. literally half of where our currenty known lore comes from

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maybe more

dark sundial
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And the lore items?

unborn wind
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what about them

modern lichen
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im almost done with the game

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i just came here cuz i was confused

dark sundial
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They arent important?

unborn wind
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? of course they are

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i said codebreaker communication is half of what we know not all

dark sundial
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Isnt the lore items yharim POV?

unborn wind
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yes

dark sundial
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So its kinda biased

unborn wind
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yes but they're still extremely important sources of information on the lore

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you have to be familira with yharim's character and sources outside of him to be able to tell where he's embellishing and where he isn't

dark sundial
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I mean in 2029 when yharim gets added we will know more

spare pier
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Not that late

unborn wind
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biased source =/= completely untrue information that you should discard

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if we were supposed to ignore the lore items what would the point even be

dark sundial
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We will get gta 6 before yharim?

modern lichen
long bloom
spare pier
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We want to rework how Lore Items work and on top of that add a bunch of miscellaneous entries

long bloom
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yharim can't be expected for another like 5 years

dark sundial
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Im not even hyped for gta 6 bcs i will not be able to play anyways

modern lichen
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wasnt there a sunken sea update that was supposed to come out?

dark sundial
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I will just see playtrough videos

unborn wind
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yharim is actually completely finished and ready to release but they delay his release by 3 weeks every time someone spreads misinfo in lore-discussion

long bloom
young socket
long bloom
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coming this year

spare pier
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No, that's Plantera

long bloom
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part 1 is

spare pier
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Plantera already serves as the Vernal Pass entry

modern lichen
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ts starting to sound like marvel rivals

dark sundial
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Plantera is relevant for the lore or she is just a big plant?

long bloom
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not very relevant at all

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she's just there

young socket
spare pier
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I rewrote it

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It is

young socket
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oh alr

modern lichen
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ngl im kinda suprised there isnt a novel or short story about calamity yet

languid badge
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havent looked hard enough

spare pier
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I'm pretty sure every Boss past Evils 2 starts to be relevant to some plotline

languid badge
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its called the script to any calamity full movie video

spare pier
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Like, Plantera is very important to the Vernal Pass and by extension Silva

modern lichen
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how would a person go about making/coming up with concept art?

dark sundial
languid badge
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and excluding clops ofc

long bloom
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yeag

spare pier
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Actually not EoL

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EoL is her own self contained story

long bloom
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she's foreshadowing for xeroc

modern lichen
dark sundial
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I saw once a fanfic of calamitas and yharim i was disgusted

languid badge
long bloom
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that's it

dark sundial
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Weaver is just a big worm from the distortion

modern lichen
spare pier
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Weaver is silly

dark sundial
long bloom
dark sundial
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The fanfic got way more than that

modern lichen
unborn wind
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cool! we dont need to hear about it

spare pier
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I think it's funny that the first major thing I made for the lore was

dark sundial
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Ye

spare pier
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Make Weaver an actual character

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And interesting

modern lichen
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is it sentient?

long bloom
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bing chilling

dark sundial
long bloom
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no it's not sentient

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it's an interdimensional portal with a shitton of protection spells on it

modern lichen
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so how does it shoot me with lasers

languid badge
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hmmm
what are the sulphur sea bosses connected to
ig you could argue od is connected to dragons

long bloom
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magic

languid badge
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but as

dark sundial
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Ita funny that ceaseles is the only hard sentinel

spare pier
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Ok now you got me

modern lichen
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also was it a bad idea to start with infernum instead of base game?

spare pier
long bloom
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draedon polluted the sea

spare pier
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AS and OD are self contained stories

long bloom
dark sundial
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You die alot

modern lichen
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yea i learned the hard way

dark sundial
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But when you get used to the bosses you barely take hits

modern lichen
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i was stuck on the DoG for a while

long bloom
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there's a ton of cool atmospheric stuff but yeah it hard

spare pier
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"Infernum is just like Dark Souls"

Describes a good game

modern lichen
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i actually kind of prefer Calamity

languid badge
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"die a lot" is a tried and true gameplay loop

modern lichen
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a little more

dark sundial
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Base cal is way more random

languid badge
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hell theres a whole genre based arround it

spare pier
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People need to stop acting as if Dark Souls invented the concept of learning 😭

languid badge
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2 even

dark sundial
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I mean base cal is more touhou like and infermum is soulslike

spare pier
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That's

unborn wind
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whattttt

spare pier
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Literally wrong

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It's the opposite

languid badge
unborn wind
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respectfully. have you played touhou

dark sundial
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Istn touhou just a shit ton of projectiles in the screen?

manic coral
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neither is like touhou

unborn wind
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well that answers that

manic coral
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at all

languid badge
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the only mod to ever be like touhou was the blushiemagic mod back in 1.3

spare pier
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There's also that

manic coral
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and neither are anythign like soulslikes either

young socket
manic coral
spare pier
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But Infernum is more similar to Touhou in the sense that the fights are a lot more static

dark sundial
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But touhou is not just a bullet hell game?

young socket
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i dont think u can make anything in terraria thats soulslike without revamping the entire combat system

spare pier
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Yes it's a bullet hell game

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And, shocker

manic coral
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projectile spam does nto equal bulelt hell

languid badge
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touhou is a bullet hell
but a very specific kind of bullet hell

spare pier
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Bullet hell games aren't random bullshit

modern lichen
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would you say infernum fights are more lore accurate to the characters?

manic coral
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that's like saying dodging being in a video make makes it like dark souls

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no

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why would they be

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if anything, they're less so

dark sundial
unborn wind
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i cant do it dawg theyre reducing touhou to "projectile spam" in calmain lore-discussion

languid badge
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terrarias basic movement system makes it entirely different from touhou by basic funtion

spare pier
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Bro go watch Junko's fight or something

manic coral
unborn wind
manic coral
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varyign depending on how you define "dodging"

young socket
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HOLLOW KNIGHT IS JUST LIKE DAR-

languid badge
young socket
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💥

unborn wind
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you aren't affected by gravity in touhou

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it's two entirely different thignsyou cnt just say its touhou because theres bullets im gonna

manic coral
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and also it's mechanically entirely different in like every way

spare pier
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No no you

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Hold a button to attack

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And aim (sometimes)

unborn wind
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screammmm

spare pier
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It's just like Calamity!!

young socket
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its the same!!!

languid badge
manic coral
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hold a button to attack is also optional

dark sundial
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I mean for me bullet hell games are all the same

manic coral
unborn wind
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girl

dark sundial
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Shit ton of projectiles

languid badge
unborn wind
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have you played one

dark sundial
manic coral
manic coral
spare pier
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Undertale counts

manic coral
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it is by basic definition

unborn wind
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touhou quite literally has lore based on how the characters use patterns in their attacks

manic coral
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udnertale and deltarune are Bullet Hell/RPG hybrids

dark sundial
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So touhou isnt just: random bullshit go?

unborn wind
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no???

spare pier
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Is Undertale?

manic coral
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for the tenth time no

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yeah. is undertale? is deltarune?

spare pier
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If you think Undertale is just random bullshit go

manic coral
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in fact by bullet hell designs

spare pier
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I'm sorry

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Go replay the game

manic coral
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udnertale's actual bullet hell stuff is like

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so-so

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meh

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whatever

young socket
manic coral
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comapred to msot bullet hells

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it's definitly not the stronegst part of the game

dark sundial
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I mean undertale gameplay is not that good ppl play bcs the lore is goated

manic coral
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deltarune is far better on the bullet patterns front

spare pier
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I FUCKING LOVE JEVIL GRAAAAAH

manic coral
dark sundial
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The only touhou character that ik is sakuya bcs some jojo memes

languid badge
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its like, take like 3 bh games, gungeon, any touhou, jsab, the difference between them is so massive you could argue they're 3 different genres entirely

modern lichen
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Draedon in a ironheart style battle armor would be pretty cool but that prolly doesnt fit his style

languid badge
manic coral
gritty kraken
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They should make yharim shoot deathray from his helmet for final 20 seconds phase

dark sundial
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I tried playing touhou 6 got my ass kicked on the first stage then unistalled

unborn wind
languid badge
manic coral
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i mean if you cosndier gungeon to be one

languid badge
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fair

manic coral
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i dont see why TBoI wouldn't be

spare pier
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Yeah

manic coral
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given, a rather unconventional one, but

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it counts

languid badge
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I mean at a certain point it does become a game of "what defines a bullet hell game" but yknow

manic coral
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i mean

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it eventually comes that for every genre

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most infamously

languid badge
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mhm

manic coral
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"what does and does not count as an rpg"

languid badge
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actually I think terrara is a good example of this

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its like
technically a sandbox, but it breaks so many conventions of the genre that its easy to see it as not one

dark sundial
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Thats why i do not understand why ppl say that terraria is 2d minecraft

modern lichen
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terraria is lowkey better than minecraft

unborn wind
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"terraria is 2d minecraft" is an opinion you hold as a child who has a preference for minecraft and refuses to play terraria on principle

languid badge
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it came out around the same time with similar mechanics at a glance
and minecraft was so massively popular at the time that it was easy enough to just call it 2d minecraft and move on

unborn wind
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it have block

manic coral
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that's jsut preference for type of game you like right there

modern lichen
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tru

languid badge
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I like terraria more than minecraft but I think arguing which is better is pointless

manic coral
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comparing the two so much just preputuates the idea that they're really simmilar

modern lichen
#

its just a matter of preference rlly

dark sundial
#

I mean i like and play both games

manic coral
#

you know what the BEST game is though?

#

Expedition 33 god this game is so fucking good

#

i love this game

#

this is basically my dream game

dark sundial
#

Is that good?

scenic olive
#

i feel it

#

in my bones

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a big update is coming

hoary cape
#

Terraria technically came out before Minecraft if you don't include the pre Minecraft game

#

So that means Minecraft is actually just 3d terraria

#

Checkmate Minecraft fans

pulsar ocean
#

Are we unemployed

shrewd stream
#

I juest read the whole conversation, i forgot i was in the lore channel for a second

solar wharf
hoary cape
#

It's not called Minecraft though

#

It was like block craft or something

shrewd stream
#

Cave something

solar wharf
#

a name is to refer something

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just because i call a piece of metal something else

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doesn't mean its not a piece of metal anymore

#

it'd be stupid to say "oh calamity died" because fabsol woke up yesterday and decided to name it "calmar" or someshit

hoary cape
#

It was cave game, but Minecraft didn't release until after terraria

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Because cave game was the beta and alpha stuff

shrewd stream
#

Anything before 2011 were alphas and betas

solar wharf
#

i've already said, a name changing or being different does not mean the thing being referenced to is different

hoary cape
#

I mean does a game being in alpha and beta count as it being released before another game

shrewd stream
#

Why are we discussing that stuff here?

solar wharf
#

released? no, but minecraft

#

has existed before terraria

#

and thats really why people call terriara 2d mc (even tho they are completely different games)

hoary cape
#

Someone brought up a terraria is just 2d Minecraft lol

solar wharf
#

thats stupid

#

they just share the creativity factor, but one is progression and combat based

hoary cape
#

They weren't actually saying it though

solar wharf
#

the other isn't

hoary cape
#

I made the joke that because terraria released before Minecraft that technically means Minecraft is 3d terraria

#

Because funny

solar wharf
#

yeah my bad, i just have an instinct to converse a lot no matter the topic.

bold dragon
robust osprey
#

minecraft is hd roblox

hoary cape
#

Every game is just a Roblox ripoff

pliant ruin
#

terraria is a evil game made by satan

young socket
#

i can confirm

bold dragon
young socket
#

me

#

i did it

#

no one else helped either i did the entire thing alone

bold dragon
glacial rampart
#

(sorry for reddit joke)

#

actually yeah this game looks cool

manic coral
#

the correct question is "what about the other 67"

glacial rampart
#

yeah i see that now

#

genuinely very interesting premise

#

in a weird kind of way it reminds me of Xenoblade 3

young socket
#

xeno

#

cnep0

#

xenlboald3?!??!?!

manic coral
#

yeha no 100% has xenoblade DNA in it

glacial rampart
#

its peak i fear

manic coral
#

it is an utterly fantastic game

#

it has taken its rightful palce as my favorite

rotund shore
#

I’ve watched a bit of a playthrough of it and it looks interesting

analog robin
#

What the hell is the ogscule

sinful adder
#

ogscule

long bloom
#

a stupid nonsensical entity dreamt up by the deranged lunatics over at the fandom wiki

sinful adder
long bloom
#

^ statements concocted by the utterly insane

tropic oak
#

wtf

cloud ibex
ruby heart
#

Omegatron

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Original game (edge of space) got omegatron, terraria got sdmg

sinful adder
#

Yeah it is as much of a crossover as the DST stuff

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Or pretty close

#

Or... Is it? It's more than just a reference, but it's not an exact copy

long bloom
#

do we know how long ago permafrost left

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or when braelor and statis got yharimed

sinful adder
#

it was just a few years ago, I think shortly after the ilmeris thing

long bloom
#

which one

sinful adder
#

?

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the one where it was incinerated

long bloom
#

which question are you replying to

#

i asked 2

sinful adder
#

oh I misread

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the ilmeris thing happened a few years ago, then permafrost left, then braelor and statis

long bloom
#

did braelor and statis happen after calamitas left

#

also did permafrost and calamitas leave in the same year

#

i'm makin a timeline

limpid saddle
sinful adder
long bloom
#

alr ty

#

last question: did permafrost leave the same year ilmeris got cooked

real silo
#

I don't think it's known

#

Yea idk

limpid saddle
#

Yeah it seems weird that something his, essentially adoptive daughter did would be the last straw for him

#

It's more speculation but i'm pretty sure after the fall of Illmeris was when Yharim began neglecting his duties of leading an army & went into his desperate bloodfrenzy era

long bloom
#

it's really weird that nothing happened for 80 years then everything happened in 20 years

#

that's the one thing i would change in the lore

real silo
#

I wouldn't say nothing happened in 80 years

#

Most of the stuff that happened during that time was probably yharim yhariming around killing gods

sinful adder
sinful adder
long bloom
#

mind you that's an entire human lifetime

real silo
#

we don't know why exactly perma left

#

It could be unrelated to morals

long bloom
#

it's very heavily implied that it is, from dev statements

pulsar ocean
#

a shroom

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it releases ogspores

robust osprey
#

nuh uh

#

ogscule is divinity

#

ogscule is god

#

ogscule is life

pliant ruin
#

no

pulsar ocean
#

Yes

tidal karma
#

what is the DoG

#

and why does he eat Gods

mighty zenith
tidal karma
#

wtf is that guy

mighty zenith
tidal karma
#

ic

mighty zenith
#

addons arent canon

tidal karma
#

NOOO

#

what about xeroc tho

mighty zenith
#

God of Primordial Light, first person to become a god, originally a monk who was a close friend of auric dragons

tidal karma
#

so nameless deity is also non canon right

mighty zenith
#

correct

tidal karma
#

what about yharim why is the jungle tyrant

mighty zenith
#

well uh

#

he's not

tidal karma
#

wut

mighty zenith
#

he hasnt been the jungle tyrant for 2 years now

tidal karma
#

wtf

#

tf is he then

mighty zenith
#

the godseeker

#

(because he seeks and kills gods)

tidal karma
#

thats gnarly

#

why does he want to do that

mighty zenith
#

god worshippers tried to toss him into lava for not wanting to absorb a dragon's (yharon's) soul

#

yharon trauma dumped on him after rescuing him from lava and yharim decided to kill all gods

tidal karma
#

dang

#

and scal is the witch of yharim?

mighty zenith
#

not when we fight her but she was his soldier at some point

tidal karma
#

where do u find all this

#

lore items in game?

mighty zenith
#

yeah the ones bosses drop

tidal karma
#

pretty cool

mighty zenith
#

but also the bestiary, draedon, some npc dialogue and devs who give some extra info here occasionally

tidal karma
#

ic

mighty zenith
#

though that last one is technically not canon info until it gets implemented in-game

tidal karma
#

what correlation does draedon have with yharim

mighty zenith
#

worked for him for a while

tidal karma
#

is yharims armour auric tesla armour?

mighty zenith
#

yea, upgraded with exo tech

#

though he gets the benefit of auric rejection that we don't

tidal karma
#

does he have a known weapon that he uses

tidal karma
#

is that when the ore knocks u back

mighty zenith
#

ya

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it knocks away anything that isnt worthy (as in, has an auric soul or is connected to one)

#

we dont have it because in order to wear auric, we neutralize it with yharon's soul fragments

tidal karma
#

oh

mighty zenith
#

yharim has it cause he's linked to yharon

tidal karma
#

ohh ic

mighty zenith
#

i know theres sketches of him dual wielding swords but there's no concrete design for it yet

#

he might also just punch the shit out of you

tidal karma
#

😂

#

cool

#

is astragelldon also non canon

mighty zenith
#

mhm

tidal karma
#

so what is the astral biome

#

some cosmic infection?

mighty zenith
#

its what happens to stars that die and bloat up with mana

#

which is why astrum deus eats stars

#

so that
doesnt happen

#

but it fucked up and that DID happen

#

and it got infected

pliant ruin
#

stars in the calamity universe are made of mana
at some point, said stars "die" and start rotting
the astral infection is that rot

tidal karma
#

is astrum aureus just a weapon that got consumed by it or smth

mighty zenith
#

a robot draedon sent to explore it

#

that also got infected

pliant ruin
#

astrum dei are a species of cosmic beings that feed on stars, thus keeping the astral infection in check, but as garbo said, our deus specifically is a little stupid so it forgot to do that

tidal karma
#

o

pliant ruin
#

so then when it went to eat the star, it was already rotten, n it got infected

#

while infected, it hauled the star to terraria/earth/whatever you call it, which is the astral meteor

tidal karma
#

i see

pliant ruin
#

and on that note. fun fact

#

you don't actually kill deus, canonically, although it isn't really noticeable ingame atm since deus as a boss hasn't been reworked yet

#

canonically you just b eat the infection out of it and guy goes "oh ok ty" and returns to space

tidal karma
#

oh wow

pulsar ocean
#

Is yharim's crystal canon did he use it at some point

mighty zenith
#

he uses it in yomi hustle

#

so i'm pretty sure yes

tidal karma
#

what about the primordial wyrm

pulsar ocean
#

It's a dragon

#

Big kne

#

One

#

Blessed by the goddess of life

#

To never die of old age

#

And keep growing

tidal karma
#

is there a reason why it gets mad at the rod of discord

pulsar ocean
#

Cheating

pliant ruin
#

The rod of discord is implied to use primordial light to teleport you

#

Primordial light being more or less

#

a incredibly powerful magicky light energy that comes from the sun

#

and xeroc, the first and strongest god, is the god of primordial light

tidal karma
#

is xeroc gonna be a boss in base calamity?

pliant ruin
#

when PW sees you use the rod of discord, it assumes you are xeroc or allied with him, thus attacks you, because it's not a big fan of xeroc

pliant ruin
#

but not confirmed

tidal karma
pulsar ocean
pliant ruin
#

yeh

tidal karma
#

is yharim confirmed this year

pulsar ocean
#

No

#

Maybe in like 5 years

tidal karma
#

whos stronger yharim or xeroc

tidal karma
mighty zenith
pulsar ocean
tidal karma
#

1 xeroc vs 100 yharims

pliant ruin
#

a billion yharims vs one of every xeroc

tidal karma
#

so is xeroc the strongest known entity

pliant ruin
#

yah

#

xeroc is cracked

#

he has like, literally everything under his favour

tidal karma
#

how much devourer of gods would it take

#

to beat one xeroc

pulsar ocean
#

Xeroc uses his continental level sun beam and no diffs yharim sadly

tidal karma
#

how do yk he has a sun beam

pulsar ocean
pliant ruin
#
  1. got the single strongest auric soul known for his ascencion
  2. trained for hundreds of years
  3. had a "perfect ascencion", with the only other known god to have had one being silva. while we don't know the exact details of what a perfect ascencion is or what sort of benefits it give, we know this because while every other god didn't keep the same domain as their dragon (slime god got the soul of the dragon of gluttony, but has the domain of slime. providence got the soul of the dragon of flame, but has the domain of ash, etc.), silva and xeroc both kept the exact same domain (primordial light and life respectively)
tidal karma
#

wtf

#

how old is he

#

and is silva also a god

pliant ruin
#

he genuinely just has every possible reason to be the strongest character

pliant ruin
tidal karma
#

nvm just read ur msg

pulsar ocean
pliant ruin
#

Making her one of the few gods we know of that didn't start as a human

tidal karma
#

is silva the one that blessed the primordial wyrm

pliant ruin
#

the only other confirmed ones being the sunken sea gods that were fish people

pliant ruin
tidal karma
#

so almost every god starts as a human

#

or terrarian or wtv

pulsar ocean
#

THE TERRARIAN IS YOU

#

WRITE LORE FOR YOUR TERRARIAN RIGHT NOW

#

RIGHT NOW

tidal karma
#

wtf

#

i just thought that was a term for humans

pliant ruin
#

Silva is one of the 5 elementals (Those being fire, water, earth, wind and nature. Silva is nature.) and also ascended, becoming the goddess of life, with the soul of the dragon of life
Not much is known about her thanks to the mod being v incomplete and all, but:
-Likely a benevolent and kind god, based on some reveals a few days ago.
-Braelor, a hero who almost defeated Yharim at one point, is her champion, and wears equipment that she made
-Due to her nature as a elemental, is functionally immortal. While Yharim "killed" her and threw her in the abyss to delay her regeneration, she will eventually return to her prime state

#

for reference

-Likely a benevolent and kind god, based on some reveals a few days ago.

#

for those who didnt see this

#

this was revealed in the gorthus QnA

cloud ibex
#

Technically the correct term would be terrarians I think but I also think the distinction literally does not matter at all

#

For all intents and purposes they’re humans

#

Just not from earth

pliant ruin
#

when asked about Silva, gorthus said she reminds him of Otonilou and that both seem like kind souls - or something like that

tidal karma
#

ah ok

pliant ruin
#

i can try finding the exact message but yeah we more or less

#

have ocnfirmation that silva is a benevolent god

tidal karma
#

ive never heard of braelor

pliant ruin
#

which means we now have 2 confirmed good guy gods and 1 confirmed evil guy god

#

yharim losing fr

tidal karma
#

tuff

pliant ruin
#

He'll be added as a NPC in the mod at one point, but

#

tl;dr

tidal karma
#

complete calamity lore

pulsar ocean
pliant ruin
#

He's a hero figure of sorts who was the champion (More or less strongest warrior seemingly) of Silva. Was strong enough to rival Yharim, and working alongside his boyfriend, Statis, almost defeated him.

tidal karma
#

so what does a auric soul mean

pliant ruin
#

However, they both got ambushed by the Devourer, which lead to them getting stuck on the distortion. Statis managed to escape through a bargain with Signus, but Braelor was left behind

pliant ruin
# tidal karma so what does a auric soul mean

Souls the auric dragons have that grants them special powers essentially; Each soul has a specific domain that grants unique powers. Ex: Auric soul of life, Auric soul of flame, Auric soul of primordial light, etc.

tidal karma
#

so the auric dragons were like the first things to exist right

pliant ruin
#

You can ascend by killing a dragon and "consuming" it's soul through a very specific ritual, essentially merging your soul with the auric soul of the dragon and becoming what is known as a god

#

nope

#

They're old but the world existed b4 them

tidal karma
#

xeroc?

#

oh

pulsar ocean
#

Was there an auric soul of death and a God of death

tidal karma
#

what happened to them

pliant ruin
#

yeah there was an auric soul of death

tidal karma
#

did they all just get consumed basically

pliant ruin
#

not a god of death tho, bc god of sacrifices got that one

#

which would later die and be ressurected as ravager

pliant ruin
#

p much

tidal karma
#

did providence start out as a human

mighty zenith
#

yes

limpid saddle
#

On the ancient era lore though, there was the World Soul, from which all life originated or something

pliant ruin
#

while we don't know if specifically human

#

she did start as a normal person

#

for all we know she could've been a goblin or some shit

pliant ruin
mighty zenith
#

cheese person

pliant ruin
#

It's never been a part of old lore

#

me

tidal karma
#

and providence became like that how by consuming auric souls?

pliant ruin
#

1 auric soul, yeah

#

the one of flame

limpid saddle
pliant ruin
#

all gods we know of only absorbed 1 auric soul

tidal karma
#

how much auric dragons were there

pliant ruin
#

Alot

#

We don't really know a specific number, but just

#

it's a entire species/population of beings

limpid saddle
pulsar ocean
#

Why don't npcs like the merchant make a boat and go to a different continent safer than ours

tidal karma
#

since DoG eats gods doesnt that mean he has a ton of auric souls

pliant ruin
#

After the fight with moon lord, alot of them died

#

And then the remaining ones got culled by gods absorbing their souls

#

again, save fo yharon

pliant ruin
#

for a few reasons

limpid saddle
tidal karma
#

cause hes not from the same dimension?

#

oh

limpid saddle
#

It explodes into God Essence

#

Which the DoG does eat, but he sends it over to his boss, Noxus

tidal karma
#

what about Scal

limpid saddle
#

through a portal in his colon or some shit

tidal karma
#

and does she have a known name

pulsar ocean
limpid saddle
#

Yeah yeah

#

I know

#

it was a misinput

#

i have a headache

pliant ruin
#
  1. Gods don't have auric souls - As i said, the auric souls fuse with their own, making a entirely new thing, known as a "Divine soul" - due to the natural unstability of divine souls since they're two souls fused into one, in a god's death, it just explodes into divine essence.
  2. To absorb auric souls, as i said, you don't just eat them - this is a common misconception due to the use of the term "consume" to describe things. You need a very specific ritual
tidal karma
#

i see

pliant ruin
limpid saddle
#

No idea why thats a thing though

tidal karma
#

so how did she get her strength

#

auric souls?

pliant ruin
#

Because imagine naming your child Calamitas

pliant ruin
tidal karma
#

brimstone biome

pliant ruin
#

She's not a god, or else Yharim would've killed her on the spot

pulsar ocean
#

After a dragon was slain did their auric soul just float there until the ritual was performed

tidal karma
#

i see

limpid saddle
pliant ruin
#

The way Calamitas got her powers is not entirely clear but it's smth to do with absorbing Brimmy's power yes

tidal karma
#

so is the brimstone elemental that we fight heavily weakened?

limpid saddle
#

Same thing happened to Calamitas Clone after making contact with the 'original' & it drove her insane

limpid saddle
pliant ruin
#

She used to be a normal child until Brimmy attacked her city (Azafure, what the Crags were before being destroyed)

#

and in a attempt to protect her family, she fought back

tidal karma
#

if the brimstone elemental is so strong how did she absorb

pliant ruin
#

but then she suddenly got a massive power boost out of nowhere, and being like, a 12 year old with barely any skill wth magic

#

completely lost control of herself

limpid saddle
tidal karma
#

oh

#

lol

limpid saddle
#

focus on 'we dont really know how'

pliant ruin
#

And in turn, rather than protecting the city from Brimmy, she just destroyed it further

#

Was pretty fucked

pulsar ocean
#

Does draedon know of the ritual

limpid saddle
tidal karma
#

so how strong would the brimstone elemental be at full power

pliant ruin
#

And then some of Yharim's soldiers found her in the rubble, took her to Yharim, and from there on he essentially manipulated a vulnerable 12 year old into being a child soldier hdflr

tidal karma
#

stronger thatn DoG?

limpid saddle
#

no way yharim would trust him with that

tidal karma
#

also what makes exo tech so special

mighty zenith
#

infinite energy

limpid saddle
mighty zenith
#

like just straight up

#

infinite

tidal karma
#

crazy

#

is the gem tech armour

mighty zenith
#

well its more like

tidal karma
#

a reference to smth

mighty zenith
#

EFFICIENT infinite energy

pliant ruin
#

gem tech armor is based of a developer's oc

#

not rly canon, just a little dev item

tidal karma
#

ah ok

limpid saddle
#

It isn't all powerful though because Draedon cant make a vessel strong enough to use infinite energy

mighty zenith
#

since sea prisms are also technically infinite energy but they kinda suck without modification

pliant ruin
#

to make it more clear with exo prisms

tidal karma
#

are all the exo mechs equal

#

lore wise

pulsar ocean
#

Does miracle matter also produce infinite energy

limpid saddle
pliant ruin
#

Sea prisms generate a infinite amount of small electricity
Draedon essentially gets sea prisms and carves them and adds microscopic machinery to them in a incredibly specific way that maximizes their energy output

tidal karma
#

also is the mars one also non canon

pulsar ocean
mighty zenith
#

its addon content

pliant ruin
#

Sea prisms by themselves are already infinite energy, it's just that it's a very small output of it

pulsar ocean
#

No addons are canon

pliant ruin
#

Exo prisms just boost that output up alot

limpid saddle
#

Apollo & Artrmis are the fastest, Ares is the most threatening in terms of fire-power, & whathisface is the most durable

tidal karma
#

i see

#

thanatos being the most durable but also the one that dies in 2 secs

pliant ruin
#

i love worm

tidal karma
#

worm

pliant ruin
#

waiter waiter more worm bosses

limpid saddle
#

lore doth not reflect the gameplay

tidal karma
#

just saying

mighty zenith
#

tbf he dies in 2 secs only when exposing his weak spots

pliant ruin
#

it's fun actually being able to discuss lore like this

#

lore chat should be like this mor eoften

mighty zenith
#

we need more new lorers

tidal karma
#

the lores pretty cool icl

mighty zenith
#

sso please come soon 🙏

tidal karma
#

am usually a sucker for lore in games

#

i love from software games lore

limpid saddle
mighty zenith
#

^

tidal karma
#

whats that

mighty zenith
#

draedon's infodump in the codebreaker

#

after you beat exos

tidal karma
#

ohhh ye

limpid saddle
#

if you go the codebreaker after killing exo mechs a new option appears

pliant ruin
#

calamity lore is pretty cool

#

i like how extensive it is

tidal karma
#

ye its quite in depth

pliant ruin
#

while also not being like, overcomplicated

limpid saddle
#

& he lets you ask him about a shit-load of lore stuff & pick his brain for character motivation

tidal karma
#

before getting railed trying to kill ares last

limpid saddle
tidal karma
#

will do

limpid saddle
#

it'll answer a fair few of your questions

pliant ruin
#

it's a pretty neat read

#

mostly alot of worldbuilding

tidal karma
#

oh also is yharon the last auric dragon

young socket
#

yes

tidal karma
#

so we made a species go extinct

#

🔥

young socket
#

he still alive

pulsar trellis
tidal karma
#

sinces hes a phoenix or smth

limpid saddle
#

thats why we only get shavings instead of a full auric soul

tidal karma
#

like a shawarma

limpid saddle
#

yeah

#

kinda

tidal karma
#

fire

limpid saddle
#

Sadly he will not burst from the egg in Yharim's fight & make it a 1v2 duel in his phase 2

tidal karma
#

boo

#

make it like the vassal

limpid saddle
#

ikr

dusk laurel
crimson junco
#

😋

limpid saddle
#

we should be able to carry around his massive egg in a wicker basket on our backs as a vanity accessory

gaunt sluice
#

Yharon town npc when

limpid saddle
#

& if you fufill a bunch of obscure conditions it hatches & grants you Yharon as one of those accessory summons like the elementals

gaunt sluice
#

If you toss the egg in lava at 3:12 am on a half moon while wearing auric armor and having four fiery draconoids summoned,

limpid saddle
gaunt sluice
#

Fair enough

pliant ruin
#

the second coming...

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hey rq we're scrunging up dev statements to use as references @cosmic zenith if ur there could u send a message that very clearly clarifies that Life, Death and Rebirth where the first three dragons to obtain an auric soul since it's already public info anyways and it'd make it easier for us than to have to put together a ton of dev statements like pieces of a puzzle

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😭

robust osprey
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lorers' second coming

pulsar ocean
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Loreous

cosmic zenith
pliant ruin
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Gotcha, that helps

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ty!

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Also funny thing but

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technically there is no statement ingame directly undoubtedly confirming that Zeratros's domain was primordial light so hdflr could u do me a favour and say that too

young socket
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light dragon

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in requiem

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combine that with the "wreathed in primordial light", n the primordial light domain mentioned in yharons bestiary entry

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yea there is ingame sources for it

pliant ruin
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oh oops that's true

pliant ruin
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technically not outright 100% confirming it