lore-discussion

[limpid saddle]

Draedon came back to it because he wanted to upgrade his furnace

[cloud ibex]

Thought I remember Yharim himself saying “dude that’s fucked why did he do that” in the lore item, implying he found about it quite literally the moment you did

[split mortar]

cal clone runs on specifically java code

[dusk laurel]

👁️

[ancient dock]

"A sinner of her own making" I think I have the right idea, but I still want clarification. Also the second line.

[split mortar]

think thats referencing her actions and how they regret them? just guessing tho

[burnt hatch]

scorched remain is simply a burned corpse,right?

or grass that got burned as a reminder of battle

[limpid saddle]

I think it's fair to interpret that as regrets over willingly following Yharim, commiting atrocities in the name of the Crusades due to her grief, & im pretty sure 'within her mind, a demon lies' refers to perhaps the Brimstone Elemental? She held terrible trauma from that conflict & how it killed her family, so it seems fair to assume within her subconscious the visage of the Brimstone Elemental represents all of her trauma

@ancient dock does this make sense to you?

[ancient dock]

Sorry for the late reply, but yes, it does.

thanks for the answer

[limpid saddle]

no problem, anytime

[cosmic minnow]

I forgor abt that

Why did draedon clone Calamitas again then?

[random mulch]

wanted to replicate her brimstone flames, didnt work

[cosmic minnow]

Then it still represents the desire for Calamitas powers to be used as a weapon ?

Well at least partly, draedon did express fascination regarding magic as he doesn’t quite understand it if I remember right

wich would make sense as draedon is a science person

[limpid saddle]

Well Draedon was originally directed to 'Recreate the Witch's power' by Yharim, he never did before Yharim flipped out at the creation of thr Plauge, he then revisited the project presumably at some point during the development of Exo Prisms to use those flames to improve his ability to effectively smelt shit, the intention by Draedon, who made the clone, was to make a better grill

[haughty seal]

I have a question. If SCal and the exo mechs are supposed to be on the same level boss wise, but Draedon says he is holding back on you in the fight, wouldn't that make the exo mechs stronger than SCal if they fought without being held back?

"I will no longer let my calculations impede my observation of this battle." "I will show you the full fury of my final machine."

[limpid saddle]

I don't think the idea is meant to be that he wasnt making the Exo Mechs go all out, as the battle was intended as a stress-test for their capabilities, but instead using the final one you fight to study the miracle matter solution that they developed from taking damage & their internal components melting together

[haughty seal]

Oh ok

[cosmic minnow]

Better grill? Based

[limpid saddle]

yeah

he was tryna make those primo exo steaks

[paper spindle]

Yo.

Another question

Within calamity lore

Is EoL an elemental or a god?

[cloud ibex]

neither i think

[mighty zenith]

Neither yeah, shes rly weird though

[cloud ibex]

she's just a Thing that leeches primordial light

[paper spindle]

So just big butterfly lady

No explanation

Damn

[split mortar]

They work for some unnamed gods

[robust osprey]

works for some god and can manipulate a small amount of primordial light

that's it

[pulsar ocean]

why did draedon make the plague

[limpid saddle]

Oh I thought the lore item implied she didn't work under a God but basically worked as a reverant parasite

leeching & wielding Xeroc's primordial light as her own that kinda deal

[split mortar]

To see if they can control organic life

[limpid saddle]

One sec I need to go check something

[pulsar ocean]

it has been more than a second

[limpid saddle]

yeah i cant find draetalk on the wiki

anyway

Last I recall from reading it, I thought while the Plague nanovirus was about controlling organic life, I thought another major focus of it was perfecting organic life?

Thus why it destroys the host's 'unnecessary' organs & bulks them up so much

[pulsar ocean]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/The_Codebreaker

communication

[limpid saddle]

Ok I was right

"...there was no need for my machines to surpass organic life. Not when that very same life could be improved upon and then harnessed as a tool or weapon."

[pulsar ocean]

oi what a cold hearted bastard draedon is

[limpid saddle]

He was out here trying to forge the sequel to all living beings

[cosmic zenith]

Hello there

What kind of structures do you guys want to see from the Demons?

[snow mountain]

amala labyrinth from SMTIII

otherwise all of you are cowards

[paper spindle]

Bro was making Life 2: Plaguebringer arc

[limpid saddle]

demon king's castle from SMTV

[tranquil seal]

What demonic agriculture looks like could be interesting

Maybe that’s just me being a stardew fan

[supple bluff]

Tbf we did find the upgrade to humans

This may be a stupid question but if shadowspec isn't canon then why would we be able to beat the shit out of Yharim with it on? Is it not because of our gear that wins battles? Or are we just to assume the terrarian uses the next best, Auric, lore wise

[split mortar]

Shadowspec will be post yharim when theyre added

[hoary berry]

incredible

[supple bluff]

LMAO I have zero fucking signal right now

It's rolling and dice on how long my messages will take

[supple bluff]

👍

I remember hearing that Yharim has exo-technology upgrades in his armor though. Our armor would be severely disadvantaged even despite having exo Prisms?

[split mortar]

Our auric armour wont have exo prisms
And our exo armour wont have auric
So yeah our armour is in a disadvantage
-# but our weapons are at a advantage

[supple bluff]

I may just be missing some information but I don't get why shadowspec would be moved to post Yahrim, I think it would be fine if shadowspec is what we use to fight him, then have something like "true Auric" armor after you kill him

[tranquil seal]

Because shadowspec is non-canon

[supple bluff]

When they are added

How do you think you would equip Draedons heart? Just smack it onto your chest?

[cosmic zenith]

Shadowspec is intended to be endgame, wherever endgame is

It is essentially a fabricated tier for super powerful dev items

[random mulch]

yharim was secretly a cluster of mold this entire time

[supple bluff]

Gotcha

Where the ever be anything above our Auric before getting to shadowspec then?

[young socket]

therell be new armours but they wont be strictly better than auric, theyll simply provide different niches

[supple bluff]

Ig I get fighting Yharim in it but that's now up to 4 bosses with the same armor, plus potentially 2 more if Noxus and Xeroc get added

[supple bluff]

I'm glad there will at least be choice

[young socket]

demonshade will be changed to post scal only and be entirely reworked (3 helmets for melee, ranger n rogue and mage n summoner)
exo will be classless and will be modular

obviously gem tech alr exists which is hyper glass cannon multiclass

and then auric will be reworked, too

and it will essentially be an all round armour

[supple bluff]

Do you have source for this? Just looking to read up on these changes

Also what do you mean modular for exo?

[young socket]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NpAT_-mky8XjOf6HA5lOw3kNHjwwCSuaLwSlFU1ggB4/edit?usp=sharing

[random mulch]

"modular" isn't the right term

it'll be customizable

first mode lets you customize stats, second and third are overheat mode, and fourth is tank mode

[supple bluff]

Holy shit I've actually been looking for something like this

I've literally asked so many times if there was something like this

Thx gang

[young socket]

its pinned in #calamity-update-talk

[noble niche]

Okay okay lore time I'm gonna do a lore now

Yharim's favorite color is orange it's like a mix between the color of bees and of fire

And lime he loves bees and lighting things on fire

[unborn wind]

i like yharim

[magic epoch]

that's something yharon would say

[supple bluff]

Wait I thought he no longer liked Yharim?

I thought in his lore piece about him detesting him after he was influenced by the DoG

[unborn wind]

yharon is the only person in the entire universe who likes yharim

besides me

[supple bluff]

LMAO type shit

I'm an advocate for being able to choose an evil route for calamity

My goal isn't to clean up the evils and test strength, it's to become the strongest at whatever cost it takes, kill everything. Yharim will seem like a saint in my shadow

[magic epoch]

I don't think theyre as close anymore

[wispy linden]

Really?

Holy this chat is active

Feed me guys

[supple bluff]

What

[wispy linden]

Feed me with lore

The wiki is so messy it messes me up

[supple bluff]

I'll feed into it, ask whatever you want. I took my Adderall today so I am locked the fuck in now that I found out there is a roadmap doc

Literally been drawing all day because of it

[wispy linden]

I would love for someone to create a whole doc of calamitas, her lore, her fun facts, her powers, etc

[wispy linden]

You draw?+ CAN I SEE

[supple bluff]

My ass was like "Yharim stands no chance against this witch bitch"

[wispy linden]

[unborn wind]

[giant character analysis text wall here]

[wispy linden]

AGAISN’T CALAMITAS?

[supple bluff]

Well at first this was it

[unborn wind]

autistic as fuck about calamity lore but so tired from college coursework

[supple bluff]

No, me.

[wispy linden]

is calamitas capable of going agaisn’t yharim perchance……

[supple bluff]

And then I got bored

[wispy linden]

Like a little…

[supple bluff]

So it's unfinished

[wispy linden]

Are you perchance the witch..

[supple bluff]

I am the NEW witch

[wispy linden]

YOU’RE SO GOOD

[supple bluff]

If I had the option I would kill her

[wispy linden]

NOOOO

[wispy linden]

LESVE HER

[young socket]

no

[wispy linden]

Who si that

[young socket]

yharims stronger

[supple bluff]

This was my real sketch

[wispy linden]

Is there any leaks about him coming

[supple bluff]

It's me. The god of the new world

[wispy linden]

That looks sick

[young socket]

hes not coming out for a while

[supple bluff]

WOW you need some info dumping

[wispy linden]

I DO

PLS

FEED ME

[young socket]

they essentially want to rework most of the mod

[wispy linden]

Oooh, makes sense

[supple bluff]

I heard it's about 4 years at least until we get him

[wispy linden]

Seeing how they reworked the exo mechs and stuff

[wispy linden]

Br.

Bro.

Are you serious mate

[unborn wind]

even 4 years is a lowball i feel like

[supple bluff]

Unfortunately (not unfortunate I'm just craving a new end goal) we are getting a rework to basically the entire game

[supple bluff]

Fs, I think that was just a "we are working on other stuff for at least 4 years before we even consider finishing the final boss"

[unborn wind]

gotcha

no problem for me i'll just go into cryosleep if i ever get too bored waiting

[supple bluff]

Also my favorite part about my drawing is it won't even hold up since Auric armor is getting a full on rework

[supple bluff]

We fr gonna be as old as Dr Drae before we get Noxus and Xenoc

[supple bluff]

But seriously the entire mod feels as if its basically in a beta state rn, the items and ways to get them are placeholders for the real content

[wispy linden]

Oooh

[supple bluff]

I'm not even fully done reading the doc, I just got to the Exo armor reworks

[wispy linden]

Dude

I can’t wait

I’m gonna get a new pc just for calamity

[supple bluff]

What is the extent of your knowledge so far, I'll try to catch you up without you reading the full 102 page doc (although I highly recommend)

[unborn wind]

i forreal might graduate university before we get yharim which is really weird to think about

[mighty zenith]

yea cause yharon is dead

[supple bluff]

I WILL graduate by then for sure, I'm not even out of highschool

[supple bluff]

Well-

[mighty zenith]

once yharon comes back yharim will be dead

so, no

they're not close anymore

[unborn wind]

SAD. well there's other guys

[supple bluff]

I mean by time we even find the fucking Aerie he will have already hatched LMAO (/j)

[mighty zenith]

theres other genocidal tyrants in the sea

[unborn wind]

truth

[long bloom]

can yharon ever actually die?

[supple bluff]

According to talks I've had on this server, not in our actual modded playthrough

[mighty zenith]

well

his soul could get absorbed

[young socket]

absorption or enough deaths

but like

[long bloom]

what's the limit then

[mighty zenith]

wrong reply

dumbass

[young socket]

a lot of deaths

[mighty zenith]

idiot

stupid

stinky

[supple bluff]

Potentially his Auric soul (the egg will be eaten) can be absorbed but there is no plans for that to happen

[young socket]

SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU LITTLE BITCH

yea course the stinker would use the shower emoji

projection smh

[mighty zenith]

fighting a losing battle here

[supple bluff]

iirc there is no intention for the terrarian to actually become a god, hense why despite you finding the dragon aerie you will not be able to. Although I am curious what role the egg would play in the lore once you do obtain it again

[long bloom]

how many times does yharon have to die for rebirths to stop working

[mighty zenith]

shrug

[supple bluff]

It can't die

[young socket]

a lot

the fragments we get are essentially meaningless, for comparison

[mighty zenith]

i theorize that yharon basically sheds his soul every time he dies which is what the fragments are

[long bloom]

i'm getting mixed signals

[mighty zenith]

so it would take many many many deaths for his soul to completely shed

but hey, thats just a theory

a g

[long bloom]

where's cei when you need her

[supple bluff]

Like obviously we killed it, it can die, but it will always be reborn. The dragon returns to its egg in the Aerie which we don't know where it is. Nobody does

[supple bluff]

FR

But we will eventually find the Aerie, meaning we will find the egg. We don't know what happens after that and I haven't read about any plans for what will happen

I like to imagine we would get to kill Yharon once and for all. Potentially him being a minion to Yharim in the fight and afterwards are able to consume the egg, becoming a god and fighting Xeroc

[unborn wind]

gonna make the meanest omelette terraria has ever seen

[supple bluff]

LMAO ACTUALLY ME

[young socket]

u wont get to become a god

[mighty zenith]

how would he be a minion

he's dead

[young socket]

because becoming a god depends on the person, and thatd mean adding a fuckton of canonisation for the terrarian which is not wat they wanna do

[mighty zenith]

^

[supple bluff]

I NEED at least a dev item where you can make a "spicy omelette" with his egg

[young socket]

and also yea he wont be in the fight since it takes time to rebirth

[long bloom]

it'd be cool if you could choose to ascend tho

[supple bluff]

Ik, that's why i said I like to imagine knowing it won't be the case

[long bloom]

just make it not required

[supple bluff]

Exactly

[long bloom]

like in hunt of the old gods

[supple bluff]

There's a mod that does that? For the love of God time to boot up terraria

[long bloom]

yeah
the goozma mod™

[young socket]

all it does is give fuck all stats

[long bloom]

+3% damage baybee

[supple bluff]

LMAOOO

[magic epoch]

silver?

[split mortar]

Yea but they would have a power disadvantage against yharim
But the ability to win isnt lost

[young socket]

calamitas is strong yes

counterpoint

yharim punches well

[long bloom]

i cast "fuck you explode"

[supple bluff]

Nah I'd want it to be an item that you use and it gets rid of all your armor and equipment slots and gives you a new form based on the colors you chose for your terrarian (shirt/hair/eyes/etc.) and you get attacks based on all classes;
True Melee: big ass primordial sword
Melee: a swing of a massive axe that launches homing proj.
Rang*r: barrage of projectiles from the sky, the ground, and from you
Mage: BIG ASS BEAM OF LIGHT
Summoner: summon your own guardians that buff you and attack
Rogue: BIG ASS PROJECTILE

[long bloom]

absolute cinema

[split mortar]

They will come back endlessly unless they decide not to or they get god ascended iirc

[supple bluff]

Type shit

[long bloom]

shit

[supple bluff]

Fuck you

Stinky

[unborn wind]

this is so upsetting she has suffered too much

[supple bluff]

Boo hoo

KILL THE WITCH

[unborn wind]

killing her would be less cruel than doing this to her pancakes

[split mortar]

Within the confines of the game its impossible to rival yharims kill count

Well

Almost impossible

[robust osprey]

get a bunch of werewolves and kill them

technically they're people

I think

[split mortar]

Killing them is very slow

Not fast spawn rates

[supple bluff]

Then I'll kill as much as I can don't matter to me

[robust osprey]

well what other option is there

[supple bluff]

Amount of kills compared to the amount of pain I bring is immesurable

[young socket]

goblin army and pirates

[robust osprey]

wait thats right

[split mortar]

Theyre invaders and so its self defence

[robust osprey]

a kill is a kill

[young socket]

well the werewolves are also out of control so its also self defence

[split mortar]

Yharims kills were much worse since it included harmless civilians

[split mortar]

Exactly
Its almost like getting to yharims level in evil caused is almost impossible

[robust osprey]

kill 300 million guides

[dusk laurel]

consumption

[split mortar]

Providence is more evil then yharim but
They dont cause as much mayhem

[supple bluff]

I moved calamitas immediately to the crags as soon as I defeated her that has to count for something

[robust osprey]

okay but provi is fine

beacuse she is a lesbian

[supple bluff]

LMAO

[split mortar]

Pluh

Yeah probi is lesbian

[supple bluff]

The only reason I don't kill innocent civilians is because there's nobody fucking left to kill

My town NPCs are cursed with immortality

[split mortar]

Exactly, yharim halved the fucking world population

[supple bluff]

I make do with WotG by trapping the princess in a purse

[light linden]

@spare piercan I ask a question?

[split mortar]

Yes

[supple bluff]

No

I don't know, CANNNN YOUUU????

[magic epoch]

Mods, send XF-09 Ares to this guy's address

[supple bluff]

I killed it in Terraria I can kill it irl

[tropic oak]

i want to see the exo mechs ravage the U.S

[supple bluff]

I

[magic epoch]

You don't have Drew's Wings irl

[magic epoch]

i want to get out of here before that

[split mortar]

They legit may be able to do quite a lot of fucking harm

[split mortar]

If not win

[supple bluff]

No but I do have wings from Spirit Halloween, post DoG btw

[tropic oak]

today we’ll be seeing if DRAEDON’S EXO MECHS can TAKE ON the FULL FORCE OF THE UNITED STATES MILITARY

(Mr Beast Thumbnail)

[supple bluff]

Ares alone probably couldn't kill the US but definitely wipe a fuck ton of it out

LMAO

[split mortar]

All of them combined are comparable to a 28 year old Scal

Like
15 year old scal can exert little under 25-50 megatons per second for days straight iirc

#lore-discussion message

[tropic oak]

little guy :)

[magic epoch]

If this is a message from Omni I'm going to implode

[split mortar]

…

Better get imploding

[light linden]

trust me

[tropic oak]

whats wrong with omni

[light linden]

you can not

[magic epoch]

Nothing

[split mortar]

Local power scaler

[magic epoch]

but yeah that's them

[tropic oak]

yes i know

i am literally in his server

[supple bluff]

No I could cause I have plot armor

I've seen how to train your dragon I know how to get Auric souls

[wispy linden]

Ooooh

Thank you

[light linden]

plot armor is not saving you from a tactical nuke to the jaw

[tropic oak]

can we make the nightfury canon 💔

[supple bluff]

What if I dodge

[split mortar]

Night fury?

Oh the dragon

[supple bluff]

HELL YEAH

[spare pier]

Shoot

[supple bluff]

PLEASE AT LEAST AS A PET

DEDICATED CONTENT TO ME A FUCKING NIGHTFURY

[magic epoch]

there's a black dragon mount

[light linden]

has anyone other than the player and silva ever tried to enter the abyss's lower levels?

[spare pier]

Idk

[split mortar]

Jared

[light linden]

have you thought about it before or am I asking you another question that you're not sure how to answer?

[tropic oak]

he’d fit right in

[spare pier]

Latter

Could go either way

[light linden]

sorry

[spare pier]

It's ok

[supple bluff]

The terrarian

[long bloom]

i also have a question

can yharon rebirth infinitely or is there a limit

[strong notch]

i think it's infinite rebirth but with a long cooldown

[light linden]

if there is a limit it'd take a long time to figure it out

[light linden]

there isn't a cooldown per say

he can either instantly revive when wanted (that's what causes his second phase in game) or when already dead he can be reborn as an egg that takes 10 years to hatch

[long bloom]

man i just want a dev to answer

[limpid saddle]

We sure on that first part?

[split mortar]

@spare pier get pinged

[light linden]

I believe so?

I was told it a few times

[limpid saddle]

If he could just, freely not die, why isnt the Yharon fight 3000 phases long

[spare pier]

That's not how Yharon's revive works

[light linden]

well then I guess I was lied to

[pulsar ocean]

If I had a say in ts I think yharon can revive infinitely but to revive he has to reach adulthood

[sinful adder]

The answer must be yes unless Silva put the terminus there

[sinful adder]

Second phase isn't a thing anymore I think?

[split mortar]

The revive thing is gonna be brought back eventually iirc

[sinful adder]

Oh

Awesome

Then I assume that's a different use of rebirth powers that are separate from his innate one

[spare pier]

Yes

[split mortar]

eats yharon

[pulsar ocean]

Mmmm chicken nuggets

[supple bluff]

I wanna be able to make a Yharon omlette

[dark sundial]

Yharon if compared to the other auric dragons would be top 2?

[split mortar]

yes

only below zeratros

[dark sundial]

And xeroc is stronger than zeratros or same strenght?

[cloud ibex]

A lot stronger

[split mortar]

zeratros is same strength as yharim

[dark sundial]

But didnt he absorbed zeratros auric soul?

[cloud ibex]

They did yes

[split mortar]

xeroc could bully 10 yharims all at once

[cloud ibex]

They have also been working to get stronger basically constantly since they ascended

[dark sundial]

I think until this day how tf yharim would beat xeroc

[split mortar]

yharim cant

[dark sundial]

Thats why he helps the terrarian?

[cloud ibex]

Yea he just Can’t

[dark sundial]

Bcs the terrarian has the potential to kick xeroc ass?

[cloud ibex]

He hopes you would be able to but even you aren’t gonna be capable of that

[split mortar]

terrarians lore is up to you, but in game nah we cant either

[dark sundial]

Unleas you use the tome of greater manipulation XD

[cloud ibex]

Xeroc is like

[split mortar]

when asking about xeroc refer to this "unmatched power of the sun"

[cloud ibex]

As powerful as anything can be in Cal’s universe

Or something along those lines

[split mortar]

xeroc has made the fucking sun output less sunlight

[dark sundial]

But we eventualy will beat xeroc

[split mortar]

has the highest potential

[long bloom]

no

[split mortar]

in a spar where xeroc is holding back from insta nuking us

[dark sundial]

Xeroc wouldnt be added as a super boss?

[split mortar]

they will be

we just wont kill them

[long bloom]

random guy vs unmatched power of the sun

[split mortar]

itll be a test or spar

[dark sundial]

The terrarian is everything but a random guy xd

[long bloom]

noxus and xeroc may or may not be added after yharim

[split mortar]

compared to the sun they are (using ingame gear)

[swift ferry]

xeroc's "unmatched power of the sun" when I hit him with the scarlet devil

[long bloom]

it's planned, but the devs can still very much just decide to be done

[dark sundial]

I mean solar flare armor is technicaly the power of the sun

[split mortar]

they live

[dark sundial]

And nebula armor is power of a nebula that is the place where stars are born

[long bloom]

not literal

[split mortar]

boss rush has 1 spell sigil from xeroc, onne

[split mortar]

solar frags do contain primordial light, just, not any where near as much as xeroc

[long bloom]

i was mostly referring to the nebula part

[split mortar]

ah

we dunno whats with the other frags

[dark sundial]

And if someone on cal absorbed a bigger star than the sun

[split mortar]

the sun isnt a star

[dark sundial]

The sun is a star

[split mortar]

not in cal

stars are well, look at fallen stars for them

[long bloom]

the sun in cal is also less hot than brimstone crags lava

and it orbits the planet

[split mortar]

cal cosmology is funky and we know not much

[long bloom]

also regular stars (not sun) are made of mana

[dark sundial]

How weaker the official xeroc would be if compared to wrath of the gods xeroc?

[split mortar]

the astral meteor is a super big moldy star that fell

[cloud ibex]

just Very Strong vs nigh omnipotence

It’s not looking good for Xeroc

[split mortar]

wotg doesnt have xeroc
nameless is comparable to goku iirc
xeroc can maybe oneshot 3 big mountains with a decent attack

[dark sundial]

I mean nameless would be one shot even zeno

He is nigh omnipotent

[split mortar]

so is zeno no?

[dark sundial]

No

Zeno only got the power to erase things

[split mortar]

nigh omnipotent is not a good indicator of strength

[long bloom]

powerscaling my beloathed

[split mortar]

even omnipotent just gets you 1 tier above the cosmology

[dark sundial]

If he was nigh omnipotent daishinkan wouldnt need to create the tablets so the zenos could enjoy the tournament of power

[cloud ibex]

Point is Xeroc is way above anything else in cal, but ND is way above Xeroc on account of being … basically the universe itself

[dark sundial]

Zeno only got the power to erase things

[split mortar]

and iirc avatar of emptiness is another nameless, so, cant be omnipotent it can have a rival

[split mortar]

was this evver stated somewhere?

[swift ferry]

mfw Machamp from Pokemon could probably beat xeroc

[dark sundial]

But didnt nameless just one shot empitness?

[split mortar]

true

[split mortar]

uh idk its nealry midnight

[dark sundial]

Gardevoir creating black holes

[cloud ibex]

No pretty sure he essentially just boots avatar back into its home universe

[dark sundial]

I think even solyn would kick xeroc ass

[cloud ibex]

Idk maybe

[split mortar]

xeroc does cause the sun to vanish in embers somehow

[cloud ibex]

I haven’t seen what she’s capable of

[split mortar]

which is a celestial object

[cloud ibex]

Unplugged the power cable

[split mortar]

shame

[dark sundial]

She protects you from empitness strongest attack

But she dies bcs she had low mana

[split mortar]

embers

[dark sundial]

Imagine being as powerfull as her and lacking mana Potions and astral injections XD

[split mortar]

Pluh

[wheat walrus]

"powerscaling my beloathed" my beloathed sentence

[dark sundial]

The wulfrum enemies are draedon creations?

[wheat walrus]

Calling powerscaling stupid is no different from calling other hobbies stupid. I am so tired of having to point this out to people.

[dark sundial]

I saw ppl starting to dislike a show bcs the protagonist couldnt solo goku

[spare pier]

Powerscalers are stupid

[wheat walrus]

And most people who say that either say it out of vague stuff they've heard, most often than not all the issues they have are about the community.

[spare pier]

Sorry Omni that may or may not include you :/

[wheat walrus]

Thank fuck you said this

[wheat walrus]

Defo not :1

[dark sundial]

?

[spare pier]

No

[dark sundial]

They were created by someone?

Or no?

[languid badge]

its crazy that people will constantly debate about who could beat who in a universe where none of its characters do anything measurable

[pliant ruin]

yesw

not draedon though

anti-yharim rebels

[pulsar ocean]

Why didn't humans talk it out with zeratros and ask him nicely to turn down the sun

[pliant ruin]

they were stupid

[robust osprey]

john wulfrum

[robust osprey]

they didn't have dragon-to-english translator back then 😔

[dusk laurel]

pensive

[robust osprey]

and zeratros didn't know sign language

unafortunate

[dark sundial]

I mean i think that those weak ass bots couldnt even bother yharim army

[robust osprey]

do you think yharim didnt had weak ass mfs

[pliant ruin]

yeah that was kinda the point

they werent particularly effective in combat

they were mostly meant to be used as distractions, annoyances and as a way to rally people into rebelling

[dark sundial]

But they are also kinda cute

Idk why

I would love to have one of them

[robust osprey]

atleast 10 of them could maybe take 1 of the weakest yharmy member

[dark sundial]

Irl

[pulsar ocean]

Did yharon learn English how did he speak to yharim

[pliant ruin]

yharim learned draconic

[bold dragon]

2 man understanding each other

[sinful adder]

Attunement gives you telepathy

[robust osprey]

mind

[bold dragon]

which one is the worst in the calamity mod

let's say the sickest person

in both sick meaning

[late veldt]

Yharim easily

[untold bluff]

Came back to this chat after a week or two, and holy shit

Image perms are back

[sinful adder]

Peeled gem crawler irl

[hoary cape]

Explain how that is related

[stoic gulch]

Dragon if offspring

[sinful adder]

Gem crawlers are a weird lizard turtle thing in calamity lore and this is one of them with the gems removed

[frank eagle]

who is the Dragon of Glutton?

I just found out that the lore doc says "The Slime God consumed the Auric Soul of the Dragon of Glutton"

[cloud ibex]

That’s the dragon they killed to ascend

We don’t know much about them but maybe we will eventually

[long bloom]

you have to eat a dragon's soul to become a god

it's the only way

[frank eagle]

i see

[long bloom]

so that means every god killed a dragon

[long bloom]

i'm tryna make a timeline, does anyone have any resources

[manic coral]

and you're gonna be contibuting to them being taken aware again if you post offtopic stuff

[long bloom]

that's a gem crawler silly

it's very relevant

[cloud ibex]

Wrong answer

[long bloom]

[cosmic minnow]

[snow mountain]

john wulfrum

he makes the doohickeys

[frank eagle]

Is Silva a God or an Elemental?

[sinful adder]

Both

[frank eagle]

An Elemental that absorbed the Auric Soul?

Then why would the Primordial Wyrm be blessed by her? Doesn't Primordial Wyrm hate the gods?

[limpid saddle]

The Primordial Wyrm hates 'Usurpers of Primordial Light'

[cloud ibex]

he hates Xeroc

[limpid saddle]

So it Xeroc came down there

[cloud ibex]

not gods in general

[limpid saddle]

He would be very angry

[frank eagle]

I see. I thought it hated other gods too.

(Originally thought)

[limpid saddle]

fair enough

[sinful adder]

Interestingly, this implies that Silva is against Xeroc, or at most neutral, given that she blesses the wyrm

[dusk laurel]

👎

[split mortar]

True, i wonder why they would have a not great relationship
Cant be god ascended both are perfect ascension gods

[pliant ruin]

they're divorced

thats my headcanon

[split mortar]

Silva trained their dog to attack anything xeroc related smh get better coping strategies

[magic epoch]

DOG?!?!

[hoary berry]

[magic epoch]

comically wide dog

[mighty zenith]

fat fuck

[tranquil seal]

Devoured too many gods

[young socket]

photosynthesis ship,,,,,

[latent bolt]

We should find a new light creature for silva

[pliant ruin]

theyre 2 of the strongest gods and 2 of the only gods left by the end of the story..... u gotta see the vision fr

[split mortar]

And theyre the 2 perfect ascension gods

[pliant ruin]

TRUE

i ship it

[robust osprey]

perfect ship

[dusk laurel]

i support this

[pliant ruin]

PEAK

[pseudo temple]

i ship yharon and myself

:3

[mighty zenith]

❌

[young socket]

yea sure u can ❌ watever u want

dont go acting like u dont wanna ship urself with all the robots

[faint plank]

truth nuke

[real silo]

Ship? To where?

[pliant ruin]

new zealand

[mighty zenith]

you know what

[eager bluff]

the terrarian isnt down there 0/10 bad image

[mighty zenith]

im gonna give you that one

[real silo]

you should fill the hole with water

Then it'd be lore accurate

[cosmic zenith]

We should canonize Australia and write about how the Dragon of Gravity used to live there

[dusk laurel]

crazy

[snow mountain]

I AM THE DRAGON OF GRAVITY'S BIGGEST OPP!!!

[shut basalt]

Is there any explanation on why everything is hostile against the terrarian?

[pliant ruin]

not everything is

just alot of things are because. well. youre in a hostile area

[shut basalt]

Except the critters

[pliant ruin]

theres a ton of predatory animals, undead, evil cults, rogue machines

[shut basalt]

They are not hostile against each other

[pliant ruin]

npcs, alot of the sunken sea and abyss creatures + more upcoming creatures that will b added to make the world feel more alive

[pliant ruin]

because its a video game

[shut basalt]

Yeah

[split mortar]

In sso some will have a food chain sort of thing iirc

[robust osprey]

normal humans that aren't hostile are fucking dead

and since yharim didn't target shit like floating eyeballs

they're alive

[shut basalt]

Thought Yharim was a godslayer

Only

[robust osprey]

most cities prayed gods

pray god = death sentence

like ilmeris had otinilou

and chrysadia was already fucked up beacuse fovos iirc

and azafure got brimmy'd

and well ilmeris got cal'd

[split mortar]

And yharim had a collateral of half the worlds population

[robust osprey]

also that

by killing otinilou ilmeris got nuked

[shut basalt]

What made dude go against the god ?

[robust osprey]

for example

[split mortar]

I say collateral like 300 million of that isnt direct combat deaths to yharims forces

[robust osprey]

yharon gaslight probably

and also they killed dragons

[split mortar]

Yharon gaslight and the fact some god worshipers threw them into lava

[shut basalt]

So how did he end up getting defeated ?

[robust osprey]

yharim?

[shut basalt]

Yes

[robust osprey]

he never got defeated

the crusade just

paused

[split mortar]

The crusade phased out over time from major people leaving

[shut basalt]

So he just vanished and waiting for terrarian

[robust osprey]

and also the fact that the only gods left are either COWARD RATS or straight inmortal

[split mortar]

Yharim would have been defeated by statis and braelor if dog hadnt reverse jumped the two last second

[split mortar]

Or xeroc

Xeroc is just plain too strong

[robust osprey]

xeroc enters in inmortal category even tho they actually aren't

[split mortar]

Unless a cosmic event like a planet collision happens in the guy yeah they arent dying

[robust osprey]

unless yharim pulls super saiyan blue kaioken x20

[bright vale]

Hello I was wondering if there is somewhere I can read the full lore of Calamity in chronological order, where it is not divided into different items like it is with reading the lore from the wiki. (What I mean by this is basically that I want it to be easy to read without jumping from different points in time.) If you're wondering why I need this is because of a project I'm working on for school.

[split mortar]

Theres no place with a chronological order of stuff sadly but there is a document in the pins with all ingame lore which one can prob find out the order of events from it and asking some questions

[bright vale]

Ty I was just wondering because I am supposed to be done with this project in a few days while still having multiple tests and I wasn't sure if I could finish compiling all information from the document in the pins and writing it in chronological order.

[robust osprey]

you could ask here extra info thats not in the document

like some worldbuilding stuff or something

[bright vale]

Will do thank you for the information

[snow mountain]

truly the act of donating to cal's patreon saved yharim's ass

[bright vale]

Do we know when in the "timeline" of the lore Azafure was destroyed? Do we also know why or is it unknown?

[robust osprey]

brimmy wake up from sleep

wanted to destroy azafure

around I think 10yo Scal tried to defend

failed miserably

brimmy destroys city

so it was like 16-ish years before terrarian came probably?

since Scal has 28-ish when you fight her

[bright vale]

Thank you for your answer

Another question do we know how everyone in the dungeon died to make Polterghast, and what do we know about the dragon cult?

[limpid saddle]

presumably they all starved to death

[split mortar]

They died of thirst, hunger and the chaos errupted from the first two iirc

[strange stump]

fear and hunger

[split mortar]

The dragon cult uses ceaseless void as a battery and keep ceaseless in many self defence spells (hence why it attacks us)
They maintain the seal on moonlord and worship the auric dragons which is likely why they sided with yharim and yharon for so long
I forgor the exacts but eidolists are related to the cult members
They aim to bring back a auric dragon somehow iirc

Many cult members died in the polterghast incident iirc

[supple bluff]

I actually really want to make a chronological document version of the lore doc or at least a coherent story from it

If I were to draft it would any of y'all fact check it?

I feel like it's a highly requested thing people look for about the lore, and after I finish a doc I kinda wanna make a YouTube video surrounding it

I also kinda wanted to make a version that will include the upcoming lore as well so it stays relevant for as long as possible but that runs the risk of the lore changing before it even drops

[random mulch]

best place to look is the codebreaker dialogue as it contains actual dates (keep in mind that year 0 is when azafure is founded)

[supple bluff]

But either way I'd love to have a collaborative document of a timeline rather than lore tid bits since this is something I'm super passionate about rn

[random mulch]

majority of events are still relatively dated instead of absolutely though

[supple bluff]

Yeah most of it would be like a ~3 years after x event

When was azafure created in relation to other events?

[random mulch]

compared to the vast majority of events, before

it's literally year 0

there's also still plenty of events with absolutely no knowledge of their dates

like ilmeris' founding

[supple bluff]

Well in the sense of the draconic era, would you say that humans and dragons existed at the same time or one came before the other

[random mulch]

humans and dragons existed at the same time

[supple bluff]

So assuming that we would just assume the timeline starts with just world building of possibly the 3 cities existing already, jungle, azafure, and ilmeris if they can't be placed

[split mortar]

Azafure is first

Its the first city iirc

[random mulch]

i dont think there's ever a mention of a jungle city, unless you're talking about the temple

[split mortar]

Its founding dates the start of the calander

[young socket]

i think they mean vernal pass

[random mulch]

oh right that

[split mortar]

The people that made plantera maybe?

Tho thats a tribe iric

[supple bluff]

I might be thinking old lore

[random mulch]

if you have to mention old lore, probably

[light linden]

the vernal pass has ties to silva, plantera, and braelor iirc

[supple bluff]

Well I originally learned lore from a video I found on yt which I've been told many times is just old lore and some events aren't even true so I get them confused with the lore doc since I saw them both around around the same time

What is the vernal pass?

[random mulch]

jungle structure

[split mortar]

Its the structure thats effectively a pre made jungle arena

[supple bluff]

Oh gorcha

So was there an aforementioned jungle city? Assuming we don't know when this existed it could be anywhere right?

[split mortar]

We only hear of jungle tribes and towns i think

[manic coral]

just towns and cultures yeah, the jungle is

well

not a great place for a city

just a little dangerous

[split mortar]

Turns out the place where the mud is probably poisonous is not great

[random mulch]

bit too many carnivorous plants

[split mortar]

Like hell is better

[light linden]

hi cei

[supple bluff]

Hi cei

LMAO

[manic coral]

except it is actually

[light linden]

they live in literal hell

[split mortar]

Bye cei

[light linden]

can I ask a question about the brimstone crags?

[supple bluff]

So would we just assume for chronological speaking that Azafure was first, then irrelevant sometime after Ilmeris and tribes popped up?

Or did something happen between those 2 events? Cause if not for timelines sake I'm just gonna say "after the first city, another rose from the sea, as well as tribes formed in the jungle"

[tropic oak]

city

[split mortar]

Chrysadia was also a place that formed post azafure iirc

[supple bluff]

I never even heard of that one :p

[random mulch]

sky civilization that basically isnt in the mod rn

[supple bluff]

Gotcha

Now how the fuck do humans get up there

[split mortar]

Its #spoilers message related to the sky islands and this

[split mortar]

Anti gravity potions or wing accessories

Or building

[supple bluff]

Oh so this adds something to the city timeline, Azafure was made, then Chrysadia, potentially jungle tribes?, ilmeris was made/Chrysadia fell silent attacked?

[split mortar]

Fovos targetted chrysadia first when it arrived on the planet iirc

[supple bluff]

Who the hell

[random mulch]

another name for moon lord

[supple bluff]

Oh

[split mortar]

Fovos is another name for moonlord

That the chrysadians gave it

[supple bluff]

Did the residence of Terraria know about fovos prior to the attack?

[split mortar]

As far as we know

Nah moonlord just appeared and started shit instantly

[supple bluff]

Or was it more of a oh fuck oh shit moment

Dam

[hoary cape]

Big alien showed up to destroy life

[split mortar]

Which is partly why the threat of moonlord or another such event is so scary for everyone

Cause it can just appear and kill everything little to no warning

[long bloom]

i'm literally making a timeline rn

[random mulch]

btw here's an extra dev statement

[long bloom]

ty

[supple bluff]

Appreciate

[long bloom]

do we know what year it is at the start of the game

[supple bluff]

0

[random mulch]

.

[long bloom]

hm

[supple bluff]

Oh the game

I'm stupid

[random mulch]

byeah if you want absolute dates you can use to help construct a timeline 'd recommend combing through the codebreaker dialogue and writing the dates down
https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/The_Codebreaker

[long bloom]

the problem is i don't wanna look until i experience it in game

i'll just suffer until then

[random mulch]

btw next update is probably gonna add a lot to the lore so keep that in mind

[long bloom]

👍

[supple bluff]

Do we have a picture of Azafure?

Maybe in spoilers or even old lore?

[random mulch]

not really

the current brimstone crags are sorta part of azafure but they're only the outskirts

[supple bluff]

Well I only really want to refer to the brimstone crags as a wasteland because I know that's going to be changed entirely

[long bloom]

there's this really old concept art that's probably not canon, given yknow 22

but it could provide a general idea

[random mulch]

it's less than canon, it's just not gonna be used

[light linden]

shame

because I wanna see the azafure smelteries

[long bloom]

iban i miss you

[random mulch]

we have 0 info on what azafure will have

it'll probably have stuff related to forges considering that in lore it's known for its forging capabilities but they probably wont resemble this concept art

[random mulch]

if you want some iban calamity you can just play calamity fables

[supple bluff]

Even that looks hardly like a city and more just terrain

GOD

Are Dev's hiring I have such a fucking itch to draw so much art for this goddamn game It's insane

PLEASE LET ME DESIGN EVEN JUST CONCEPT ART IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE TO BE IN GAME

[long bloom]

draw art and mail it to cei's house anonymously

[supple bluff]

(this is copium because the other game I do concept art for only needs spriting)

[split mortar]

You can draw your own concepts without consent of the devs lmao (next update we may see some structures from azafurians spawn in hell iirc)

[supple bluff]

LMAOO

This might be a little twisted in logic but I don't really like to do concept sketches for media that already exists because I've seen multiple stories of developers avoiding how fan art looks like so that they won't get in any trouble

So say I did come up with a concept and it got a lot of reception, since I obviously like that design I made I don't want it to end up getting avoided when released

I essentially think of that matpat video where he talks about how security breach changed their lore because he guessed it entirely correct

[long bloom]

makes sense

[supple bluff]

And because before I've had work where they refused some of the concepts because they thought I was taking too much of a role into writing. Which is fine, but it was just kind of how the situation played out where they took offense to it rather than just saying nah

[bright vale]

I have a question wondering if anyone got the answers. After Yharim's crusade which gods are still alive.
The ones I have heard about still being alive are Slime god, Providence and Xeroc.
but I am not 100% sure and is Noxus canon to the story as I've heard about him but I am not quite sure if he is a part of the lore.

[supple bluff]

Like just tell me no instead of thinking I'm tryna replace you like dawg that's not what I'm doing it's a suggestion I know you are most likely gonna turn it down it's not that deep

Okay rant over

[long bloom]

noxus is canon but isn't a god

and yeah those are the only 3 living gods we know of bar silva

"alive" is debatable for her

[bright vale]

Oh ok because from what I read somewhere he was a "true god" instead of being a false god such as Xeroc

[long bloom]

that's old lore

[random mulch]

that's not even old lore

[split mortar]

Old lore had xeroc also be a true god

[random mulch]

that's just a lie

[long bloom]

we know almost nothing about current noxus

[split mortar]

^

[supple bluff]

Oh yeah can you explain Silva to me, just a whole brief summary? iirc she was a gold that just kinda fucked around and eventually died in the sulphur sea?

[split mortar]

the definition of a god is someone who ascension ritualed a auric soul

[split mortar]

Elemental of nature, goddess of life, first dryad
Buffs jared and braelor
Woman

[random mulch]

got "killed" and thrown in the abyss once, got out, then got "killed" again by yharim

[young socket]

surely it will work if we do it again

[long bloom]

things we know about noxus:

-they're top dawg of the distortion

-they made ceaseless void and maybe devourer of gods

-they're probably the one absorbing the essence of gods the devourer consumes

[young socket]

they didnt make signus or storm weaver

[split mortar]

They only made ceaseless and maybe dog

[young socket]

and possibly didnt make dog

[long bloom]

fixed

[split mortar]

And they may be causing a theoretical hivemind in the distortion

[young socket]

i mean its

not rlly theoritcal

[bright vale]

thank you for the information everyone so if I understood it correctly.
Slime god, Providence and Xeroc are the only gods. (maybe Silva)
Noxus is canon but is not really a god. (kind of the king "god" of the distortion)
is this right?

[long bloom]

basically yeah

[random mulch]

silva is a god and noxus is weird

[tranquil seal]

Could the player hypothetically be a god if we ate Yharon’s soul?

[long bloom]

yeah

[haughty seal]

devs said there are a few dozen gods alive

[bright vale]

I wrote maybe because it seemed like it wasn't sure if she was alive

[random mulch]

she is alive

[long bloom]

but we don't know the ritual

[haughty seal]

just they are on other continents

[split mortar]

Theoretically
But
We wont ingame

[young socket]

she is alive shes just in a dormant state

[bright vale]

ok good to know thank you

[tranquil seal]

That would be a cool alternate route

Like a bad route

[split mortar]

It would instakill yharim

[young socket]

why would it be bad

[split mortar]

And also wont happen cause it would characterise the terrarian

[young socket]

congrats! you permanently killed The Worst Dragon Ever™️ and the Big Auric Man at once

[supple bluff]

How she die

[split mortar]

Yharim

[long bloom]

also yharon's soul instantly teleported to the aerie so it's kinda hard to get to

[split mortar]

And even then silva isnt forever down

They healing

[random mulch]

the ritual to absorb an auric soul has been forgotten for a long time

[supple bluff]

The first time

[split mortar]

We dunno

[supple bluff]

Oh k

[haughty seal]

what if xeroc rewards us by telling us the ascension ritual?

[supple bluff]

He won't lmao

[long bloom]

that would be cool

also yeah they won't

[split mortar]

Xeroc has no reason to

[supple bluff]

Actually he has reason not to

We ain't winning the fight all together, why would he wanna give us the ability to get more power

[split mortar]

Also they are old friends with yharon

Well were

Still may hold sentimental value to that

[haughty seal]

Do we know what Xeroc's proposal might be?

[split mortar]

No

[bright vale]

How did the corruption and crimson came to be. From a video I saw it said that the essence of dead gods corrupted and consumed land turning it into the corruption and crimson.

It also said that brain of cthulu that reside in the crimson were created by the gods actions (The gods are known to kill the brain of cthulus????)

The video also said:
The desires of the dead gods later became The Perforators
Their flesh clustered together to create the hive mind
The crimson and corruption was a manifestation of the gods evil mind

I'm not really sure what of this is true and hoped for some further clarification upon this

Also there was this bit (not connected to waht i wrote preciously) where the video says:
"Yharim went into hiding leaving his best friend Yharon to protect anyone who came near him
Yharim waited for a hero to defeat him"
didn't really understand it

[split mortar]

Technically all of it iirc

Crimson and corruption are evil gods essence coagulating into one big part

I think the brain of cthulhu part is on about how some gods killing great beasts for their fame despite having potentially made them

The perforators and hivemind are the strongest bodies of each and as such are worshiped by the rest of the evil biome or somethinf? Unsure on that part

[young socket]

i think the boc part is talking about "the product of the folly of the gods" line

which actually means "these appeared because the gods were evil"

product referring to how their essence caused them, and folly being them being evil

[split mortar]

Yharim is less so waiting for a hero and is just willing to die if it means we will take their mantle as godseeker and kill the remaining gods

Yharon can easily access the aerie they werent left behind or anything, they leave and hunt us down possibly against yharims wishes iirc

[split mortar]

A

[split mortar]

Also the crimson and corruption are of early gods in the crusade improperly disposed of

[young socket]

yharim never waited for a "hero" to defeat him, he just isolated himself to train as much as possible

[bright vale]

So if I understand correctly (correct me if I got somethign incorrect please)

The crimson and corruption got created because of Yharim incorrectly disposing the gods that he slayed during the early part of his crusade.

Brain of Cthulu is created by the gods, but it is just something they use to gather more fame by slaying them after they create them basically.

The Perforators and hivemind are created from the bodies of the dead gods that got once again incorrectly disposed of by Yharim.

Yharim went into the aerie (can someone explain waht this is) but he didn't leave Yharon, he went there waiting to be killed or to train himself.

Yharon didn't leave to go to the aerie to continue Yharim's fight (what I think I understood from the "Roar Of The Jungle Dragon") and to hunt us the player down.

[split mortar]

The aerie is some fucked up place that warps space enough that despite being on the planet not even draedon can get to it, its the place yharon would rebirth the dragons iirc

Oh and a single blade of grass from there solos yharim

[young socket]

brain of cthulhu was created by the gods essences, they didnt actually make it

[split mortar]

Yea i was wring there oops

[young socket]

the dragon aerie is a sky island which is important to the auric dragons that you seemingly cant find without yharims help (not even draedon could find it after doing a worldwide scan)
yharon was with yharim at the aerie, theyve been together for several months but only left to fight you

[bright vale]

so mostly everything was correct except

that boc was created by the gods essence and that Yharon did not continue Yharim fight but is instead chilling with Yharim in the aerie

aerie is some kind of sky island which is in this world but still not, where everything from there is kind of overpowered . (only Yharon and Yharim can get there)

[split mortar]

Yeah

[bright vale]

but is Yharim there to wait for his death or to train I'm still unsure about that part

[split mortar]

Probably trained for a bit then got hit with the depression, the exos rival yharim when they first got exo auric and yharims stronger since then

But ultimately i dont think we know the exacts on it yet

[bright vale]

ok so it is basically a combination of both

[split mortar]

Most likely i think

[bright vale]

Is someone willing to give feedback on the text I have written about the lore of calamity in hopefully quite correct chronological order. (I have mostly input the information I have gathered and summarized into chatgpt)

the reason for using gpt is because english isn't my first language so the text would be of horrible quality.

here it is if anyone wants to

it would be greatly appreciated for any help

[long bloom]

ml is named fovos not foros

but looks good so far

[trim peak]

100 Exomechs VS 1 Xeroc

[bright vale]

Thank you will chabge that

[split mortar]

Xeroc

[bright vale]

Is there anythibg that needa to be added

[trim peak]

🔥

[long bloom]

calamitas was found in the rubble of azafure after the brimstone elemental went on a rampage

i think

and the astral didn't exist until the terrarian killed wof

after the crusade ended

[bright vale]

Gonna add that i believe that i forgpt to add that she fought brimsyone elemental

[bright vale]

Will change that too seems like i got a bit of wrong information

[light linden]

that isn't 100% true

[light linden]

ok so basically

the astral infection did exist before the WoF but it just wasn't on the planet

and the meteor hitting was correlation not causation

[bright vale]

Ok so did the meteor hit because pf the astral infection and did the astral infection exist ob another planet???

[light linden]

neither

the astral-

actually wait

I need to explain something else first

most stars in calamity aren't like irl

they're balls of mana

sometimes those balls of mana become corrupted and turn into astral infection

as a bit of an unintentional prevention measure the deus species eat stars before they can become astral infection

I should mention that they don't do it to prevent astral infection, their species just eats stars

but eventually a deus ate an infected star and became astrum deus

astrum deus then threw what was left of the infected star at our planet which creates the astral infection in game

that explain it enough?

[split mortar]

-# the sun is different to stars

[bright vale]

So basically as I understood it. Stars are made of mana and a food source for a species called deus. One day a deus eats an infected star and became astrum deus. Theb astrum deus throws the infection to our planet which i guess is the meyeor

[split mortar]

Yeah

[light linden]

yes

[bright vale]

But did all of this happen after we killed wof or did it happen before

?

[light linden]

unsure

likely before

we don't know how close the star was and how fast it was thrown

[bright vale]

Because im pretty sure i read somewhere that Yharim or his army encountered the astral infection

But basically it landed after se kill wof

[light linden]

draedon did

he sent mercenaries in right after the meteor hit to observe the effects

[split mortar]

And then sent aureus

[light linden]

then when a few managed to come back reporting on its extreme danger he sent in aureus

which quickly got infected

[bright vale]

So draedon encountered it but was it after he left yharim?

[light linden]

yes

[split mortar]

Yeah draedon left months or even years ago iirc

[light linden]

it was while he was working on the exo mechs

[bright vale]

But what was digferent with the sun then?

[light linden]

uhhh

ok so the sun is

weird

and we really only know one thing that sets it apart but there are likely other things

[young socket]

twas years ago

[light linden]

instead of being made of mana it's made of primordial light

which zeratros and xeroc control

and the EoL can use to power herself up in daytime

[young socket]

"It was then I would get my final official order from Yharim: replicate the Witch's power. My focus at the time was the Plague, so initially I made minimal progress. Soon after, the Godseeker and I went our separate ways."

[split mortar]

And its also bigger then the moon

[bright vale]

Stars are made of mana
Sun is made of primordial light which zeratros originally controlled but the Xeroc controlled it.
And the stars can get infected but deus species eats them before this happens and then one gets infected.
This deus turna knto astrum deus which then shopts the infection towarss our planet.
Draedon finds the infection after leaving yharim and sends mercenaries and theb sends aureus shich then gets infected and turbs into astrum aureus

[light linden]

yes

[bright vale]

But how did wof tie into this i understa d that we first see the infection adter we kill wof but it also seems like it existed on our planet before wof

[split mortar]

Deus eating and then throwing it when we beat wof is coincidence

iirc

[spare pier]

Unless it is contradicted (and we have to change that), Draedon didn't discover the Infection after WoF

He knew it existed but never studied

Because it was, y'know

In Space

[split mortar]

How does astral taste

Is it like popping rock sweets

[bright vale]

Ok so it is in space before but it is kust a coincidence that it lands on our planet as soon as we koll wof

[spare pier]

Pretty much

[strange stump]

are we talking about meeeeeee

[split mortar]

Pretty sure ye

[split mortar]

No

[strange stump]

oh :(

[split mortar]

You are cringe

[spare pier]

Also seriously is this contradicted?

[split mortar]

A teto liker

[spare pier]

I'd have to change either the Lore Items or Draetalk if that's the case

[bright vale]

It os very confusing if anythib

But soes draedon study it right after ir lands then

Or did he avtually study it in space

[split mortar]

Yeah this i think

[bright vale]

Damn seird that i never met him seems like a cool guy

So basically I should just note down that he finds it after the death of wof which is after the player starts existibg

[pliant ruin]

why did u say this as if that was something unique to the calamity mod sun

[split mortar]

Stars are smaller then the moon

[young socket]

but

melon gun

the sun is not a star

[pliant ruin]

calamity cosmology horrors

[split mortar]

Clearing any potential confusion

[split mortar]

The horrors of having unique cosmology and not irl copy and pasted

[shrewd stream]

Something that is not that interesting but i want to point out because i like it is that the astral infection can only infect non sapient things, hence why animals, machines, dirt and plants gets infected but things like humans and any other intelligent being is immune... which means that astrum deus is quite literally just a cosmic star eating worm that has the brain capacity of an animal

But which animal

Is it a dumb animal or a smart animal?

Is astrum deus actually a worm?

[warped grotto]

Which worms are sentient?

[pulsar ocean]

Me

[stuck shore]

I wonder what the other Draetalk entries would be if possible

[spare pier]

Whar

[stuck shore]

Idk it was a random thought in my head

Bc draetalk kinda gives some pov info about topics

Like his own creations

[dark sundial]

What the pumpkin moon and frost moon are in the cal lore?

[spare pier]

You mean what other topics?

Because like

We covered literally every topic we wanted

[stuck shore]

[pulsar ocean]

Who's the guy on the emoji

[stuck shore]

He’s literally called failure

[dark sundial]

?

[pulsar ocean]

What's the lore

[stuck shore]

He was called such bc he flunked daycare somehow

And when he got a job, he got NEGATIVE money when paid

[pulsar ocean]

Tough luck

[stuck shore]

Lucky for him tho, he was adopted by cal devs and taken care of as an icon

And he never got negative money again bc that sucks hard af

[pliant ruin]

devourer
uhhh
devourer
uhhh yeah thats it

maybe primordial wyrm i guess?????? we dunno

actually

yeah

primordial wyrm probably

has some degree of sapience atleast

and given old duke also is sapient

fair to assume pw also is

given he hates xeroc specifically and like yeah thats a pretty non animalistic thing to do

[pulsar ocean]

Does old Duke speak english

[dark sundial]

I dont think so he is just boomer fishroom

[pliant ruin]

he speaks draconic

insallah he will speak english in old duke dialogue

[young socket]

that says sentient

tupid

[dark sundial]

He bought a house for 50 grand and says that the younger dukes are lazy and weak

[pliant ruin]

sentient

oh ok

like

all of them

[young socket]

all of em

yeah

[pliant ruin]

except thanatos i guess

thanatos is just a bobot