#lore-discussion

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lunar thorn
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๐Ÿ‘Œdope

thorn drift
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Have the abyss be a predefined area in the world then? So being inside that area while abyss blocks are present means you're in the abyss biome?

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Dunno if thats really feasable

split mortar
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Ive gotten rid of the walls before
You still combust and fucking die if in air

thorn drift
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So there really isnt any reason to not have the walls be hidden in the blocks then?

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Also even if they needed walls, you could just have them line the sides of both the borders and not in the middle

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so it still spawns water

long bloom
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yeag

prime mauve
split mortar
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Weird then

stoic gulch
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whats permafrosts two most favorite weapons?

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if he has any

split mortar
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Dont thi k we know

spare pier
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It's more about the fact that the way we as a team work, we should not have done something like SSO

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Or, well

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The organization of the update was fucked up in general and our biggest mistake was withholding the update as a whole until it's done. By this point we can't backtrack everything because it'd be an immense amount of work to isolate every Sunken Sea content we've done in its own branch

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Overall, things will be very different once SSO is done

rain thorn
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SSO is probably going to be like one of the biggest updates in the mod's history if I had to guess

split mortar
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Its the biggest

dusk laurel
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it already is THE largest

split mortar
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iirc

young socket
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smthn smthn changelog is alr biggest in history and keeps growing

dusk laurel
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and its not even done

split mortar
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And its yet to finish

young socket
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๐ŸŒ to the both of ye

spare pier
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And we are never making an update like this again

split mortar
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BCO

spare pier
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Not in the sense of biome reworks

dusk laurel
spare pier
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But SSO literally has enough content to be 3 updates

rain thorn
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like SSO part 1 or both parts of SSO combined

split mortar
dusk laurel
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no

spare pier
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We should have developed it on its own branch and released other stuff while we were doing it

dusk laurel
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it wont be as big

split mortar
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A

spare pier
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What I mean is, basically

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The next biome reworks won't be giant fucking clusters of content with the biome as the center of it

stoic gulch
spare pier
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They will be the biome

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Nothing else

young socket
spare pier
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Well, some more stuff too

spare pier
dusk laurel
young socket
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i meant alongside as in

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as part of the same update

spare pier
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In that case yes

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But like, the entire team is in unanimous agreement that we cannot do stuff like SSO because it's tiring as fuck

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It gets tiring to work on the same thing for months on end

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We work in phases of Make the biome rework stuff > Work on whatever the fuck we want > Repeat

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We are working for free after all

rain thorn
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also theoretically what would you guys do if 1.4.5 were to drop before SSO

young socket
dusk laurel
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tmod would still take time to update

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yeah

rain thorn
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Not saying it'll happen, but what would you even do

split mortar
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Tmod takes time to port

rain thorn
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Fair

split mortar
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So just continue as normal for a bit

young socket
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just a reminder that theres a big chance that terrarias multiplayer code will most likely be changed a lot

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which tml would need to account for

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and then tml will give mods plenty of time to properly update before releasing

young socket
split mortar
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Add crossplay to tmod

lunar thorn
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Thx to the team for their work on Cal

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Will the new DoG sprite be in SSO?

dusk laurel
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no

split mortar
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Distortion guys likely to get their changes in distortion update

dusk laurel
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it would bloat the update even more, and is unrelated to the sunken sea

robust osprey
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wdym, DoG was born in ilmeris

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trust

lunar thorn
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Trust

dark sundial
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The terrarian in calamity lore is hero?

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Or a villain?

cloud ibex
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up to you

mighty zenith
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the forbidden image

cloud ibex
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for the most part you decide how your terrarian's story goes

split mortar
dark sundial
trim peak
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Hypermotivated pragmatist who heavily adheres to the "for the greater good" mentality

cloud ibex
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for most of the bosses there's a pretty good reason you fight them

split mortar
cloud ibex
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usually ranging from "they attacked me" to "they attacked me"

limpid saddle
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Aquatic Scourge is just a fish

split mortar
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And is easy to piss off

limpid saddle
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The Lunatic Cultist was trying to keep the Moon Lord sealed

trim peak
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๐Ÿ˜Ž

split mortar
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Not easy to defend there

dusk laurel
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okay

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but lunatic cultist

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is well

trim peak
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What about Anahita and the Leviathan

dusk laurel
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a lunatic

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and very pro yharim afaik

split mortar
dark sundial
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I feel bad when i kill aquatic scourge

split mortar
trim peak
limpid saddle
split mortar
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Since they stop everything from kabooming

trim peak
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It really is just

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Ambiguous so

dusk laurel
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lc is ambiguous imo

trim peak
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Mhm

dusk laurel
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not the same level as killing AS

limpid saddle
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Not good on the record

dark sundial
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Who is the big bad villain in calamity lore xeroc or yharim?

dusk laurel
split mortar
limpid saddle
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Xeroc's kind of a Catalystโ„ข๏ธ for the events of Calamity but he doesnt actively do harm

split mortar
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Ml and xeroc

dusk laurel
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yeah

dark sundial
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But didnt xeroc kill all the dragons? Or was moon lord?

limpid saddle
split mortar
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Xeroc only killed the king

limpid saddle
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It was an 800 year long group effort

dusk laurel
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ml killed a lot

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but they revived

split mortar
dusk laurel
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i know

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actually wait

trim peak
# dusk laurel a lunatic

Also just a detail, from OG Terraria's side of things, "Lunatic" might be derivative of "lunar" or "luna" as I've seen the phrase correlated with elements pertaining to the moon

split mortar
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They may not

dark sundial
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And the dragons are good guys?

trim peak
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And you, being the Touhou fan would probably know a thing or two about that as well

dusk laurel
young socket
dark sundial
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Or everyone is an asshole in calamity lore?

split mortar
cloud ibex
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not that simple

trim peak
cloud ibex
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though yharim would disagree

dark sundial
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Isnt yharim wish that the terrarian kills him? Or this is old lore?

young socket
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its like asking if a nationality is an asshole

limpid saddle
split mortar
limpid saddle
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So Yharim thinks if somebodies strong enough to beat him, they can finish The Crusades & kill the last Gods

trim peak
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You yourself then become The Yharimโ„ข๏ธ

dark sundial
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How many bosses you guys thin that will be added before yharim?

trim peak
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Isn't Yharim literally after Calamitas

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Yeah

split mortar
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They wont add new bosses other then yharim, noxus and xeroc

dark sundial
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Yharim will be the last boss or they will add more bosses after him?

cloud ibex
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maybe

dusk laurel
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if a boss was added before yharim the world would end

trim peak
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Unless you wanna count the Primordial Wyrm but like, when it comes to Cal, ExoMechs and the Wyrm those three are interchangeable and can be fought in any order after Yharon

split mortar
split mortar
trim peak
cloud ibex
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yharim is the only boss that's guaranteed to happen (unless the mod explodes and dies before then)

split mortar
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Its between scal and exos to yhairm

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Yharim final boss
Noxus and xeroc post game superbosses

cloud ibex
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noxus and xeroc depends on if the devs still want to work on the mod by then

trim peak
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Also valid. Yharim alone is sufficient. Anything after would just be nice bonuses

limpid saddle
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& they're ALL scaled for late hardmode

dusk laurel
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ggg i will store you in a bottle

trim peak
dark sundial
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Who you guys think comes first yharim or DoG 999th rework?

split mortar
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Vanillins violence is valid this time

trim peak
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DoG

split mortar
spare pier
dark sundial
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Why they insist in reworking dog he is fine alot of other bosses deserve more than him

spare pier
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DoG is fine, but he can't be just fine

trim peak
cloud ibex
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yea like

split mortar
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And dogs overhaul is like
One of the last updates

cloud ibex
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DoG is one of the most iconic bosses in the mod

dark sundial
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Yharon still with his old ass sprite

cloud ibex
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he should not be Merely Fine

spare pier
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Like, sure yeah DoG is a serviceable enough fight

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But it's DoG

split mortar
limpid saddle
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ok chat im going to watch Orb: On The Movements Of The Earth

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goodbye

split mortar
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Bye

trim peak
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It's metal asf the ExoMechs is one of the final bosses of the mod
My own personal interpretation of them as bosses is that they serve as a testament to how far you've come on your journey (seeing as they by technicality resemble the original 3 terraria bosses which the mechanical bosses were also modeled after)

dusk laurel
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i would like exos more if the fight wasnt just "fine"

spare pier
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Exos are pretty good but they suffer from being paired with

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One of the two best Bosses in the Mod

dusk laurel
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that does a lot yeah

young socket
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wat if we explode exos

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no more exos

dusk laurel
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fables

trim peak
cloud ibex
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that means no more giant mechs and less draedon

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๐Ÿ‘Ž

spare pier
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Exos will undergo a few changes in the future

dusk laurel
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will the gauss nuke stop having an identity crisis

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(i doubt it)

spare pier
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Wdym by that?

trim peak
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I will anticipate their revisions with bated breath

dusk laurel
spare pier
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That's Gauss in general

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Gauss' color has simply changed

paper spindle
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Gun go brrr

spare pier
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Ares has been made slower, for example

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He's not glued to your screen anymore

mighty zenith
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bad mod imo

paper spindle
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Are the twins whippable now?

split mortar
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Its gonna add draedon as a boss

cloud ibex
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๐Ÿ’”

cloud ibex
mighty zenith
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no....

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it's not enough for redemption...

spare pier
mighty zenith
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they remove my bouncy boy...

dusk laurel
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he might be in the mod

split mortar
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Aureus :(

cloud ibex
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your bouncy boy is a nerd

dusk laurel
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aureus is just not guaranteed

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unlike deus

cloud ibex
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i'm gonna shove aureus in a locker

mighty zenith
mighty zenith
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he wont fit

spare pier
mighty zenith
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he's too fet

cloud ibex
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haha

trim peak
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Interesting. Coolcool

dusk laurel
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insert 10 gorrilionth message about how the exos dont work together here

late veldt
dusk laurel
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providence

trim peak
spare pier
reef wigeon
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Is Calamity Community Remix a good mod?

late veldt
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ahe

dusk laurel
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yeah

spare pier
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No

trim peak
split mortar
spare pier
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Providence and SCal are the two Bosses which, as they stand

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I think they should not be changed in any way

reef wigeon
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They brought Noxus back from WoTG, it's a miracle ๐Ÿ˜ญ

dusk laurel
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๐Ÿ‘Ž

late veldt
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What's like. the worst boss anyways

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I remember all of my friends complaining about PBG a while ago

dusk laurel
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dog and ravager are pretty bad

trim peak
dusk laurel
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cal clone is a nothing burger

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etc

mighty zenith
dusk laurel
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^

spare pier
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Cal Clone is really good imo

mighty zenith
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calclone is good because twins are good

spare pier
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Just suffers from being old as balls

mighty zenith
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tbh

solar wharf
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my stance on whatever topic is being discussed at this current moment is whatever alligns with @dusk laurel beliefs.

reef wigeon
late veldt
mighty zenith
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it's really high effort

spare pier
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PBG is another Boss I think is nearly perfect as it stands

spare pier
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But I could see some minor tweaks to it

dusk laurel
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im okay with pbg, i just think it needs a little more to differentiate it from queen bee

reef wigeon
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Well, goodbye another month

solar wharf
dusk laurel
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what...

trim peak
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Ravenger?

split mortar
spare pier
young socket
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@dusk laurel say like a really shitty boss

dusk laurel
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okay

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uhhhh

solar wharf
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wow, shitting on whoever designed said boss?

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i cannot believe you

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that is genuinely a disgusting behavior ๐Ÿ’” ๐Ÿ’”

late veldt
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I actually first tried the twins on ftw. Which is a weird contrast with the WoF being hell

split mortar
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Get jiggy with it aureus gif

late veldt
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And the Destroyer also being hell

spare pier
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Like, PBG is a Boss who actually does the whole "previous Boss but stronger" shtick really well

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Because everything it changes about Queen Bee makes the fight play completely differently

late veldt
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I like third tried skeletron prime but the other two were just it despawning

reef wigeon
split mortar
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:3

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:3

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:3

dusk laurel
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25 exponent

limpid saddle
spare pier
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It's just fun

dusk laurel
limpid saddle
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plotting your murder as we speak

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watch out for anvils

reef wigeon
dusk laurel
split mortar
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Anvillin

reef wigeon
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Okay, gun, throw me off the server.

split mortar
reef wigeon
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But... I WANT TO GO TO ANOTHER SERVER-

split mortar
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No

reef wigeon
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NOOOOOOOOOOO

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Golden Experience Requiem, cancels the throw

mighty zenith
spice torrent
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is there anything that can be improved in this tier list:

split mortar
mighty zenith
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killing u

mighty zenith
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bro thinks hes on the team

spice torrent
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he is the first god

mighty zenith
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no

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nameless and noxus/avatar are not canon

spice torrent
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he kinda started the era of the gods

spice torrent
cosmic zenith
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Nameless is also not Xeroc

mighty zenith
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they're different characters to xeroc and calamity's own version of noxus

limpid saddle
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outdated to say the least

split mortar
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Nameless is like
Not official and not xeroc

spice torrent
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the others have said it clear enough

split mortar
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O

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Fair

mighty zenith
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especially the fishrons and eidolon wyrm, they do not deserve to be in the same tier as fucking deerclops

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the
non canon
boss

spice torrent
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alrighty

cosmic zenith
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Going solely by amount of mentions in current lore, I feel like this is fairly accurate

unborn wind
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polterghast should be moved up considering it's The reason yharim lost the support of the dragon cult

cosmic zenith
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But that's not really reflective of how important they are in-universe

split mortar
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Moonlord is number fucking 1 in importance

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Its why gods could appear

spice torrent
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hmm

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you have a point

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here is it improved

unborn wind
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i also really would not put brimmy and cryogen on the same level as literally draedon and literally calamitas (unless cryogen is supposed to represent permafrost)

spice torrent
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thats why

mighty zenith
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brimmy should probably be with cultist

spice torrent
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good point

mighty zenith
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i'd also bump ceaseless and signus up

spice torrent
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Ceaseless is a part of Onyx Kinsmen, right?

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crap

mighty zenith
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no

spice torrent
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sigus

split mortar
mighty zenith
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signus was worshipped by the kinsmen, possibly as a satan parallel

spice torrent
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putting him in the kinsmen tier

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and i forgor that Ceaseless was a portal to the Devourer's realm

unborn wind
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personally id bump pbg up a tier as well

mighty zenith
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ceaseless gives insight into the distortion, but also DoG as a character and Noxus (the calamity one)

unborn wind
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because of all the. Yknow

young socket
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i love faustian bargains

mighty zenith
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i would bump provi up though

spice torrent
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not the Profaned guardians though

mighty zenith
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nah guardians are less important

unborn wind
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my reasoning is that pbg creation was the reason yharim cut ties with draedon who after calamitas left was like. his greatest asset and undoubtedly made the downfall of his crusade even more rapid

spice torrent
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It is still important, but i feel like the plague itself, not the PBG made Yharim dismiss Draedon

dusk laurel
unborn wind
spice torrent
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but i am moving her up next to QB

unborn wind
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also yharim releasing pbg is the reason the plague has spread throughout the jungle like draedon didnt do that. yharim did. which i will always be giggling over

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like good job man

spice torrent
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wow]]

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yharim is kinda stupid sometimes

dusk laurel
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astrageldon isnt canon

spice torrent
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fair enough

unborn wind
split mortar
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Neither is goozma

spice torrent
split mortar
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It has a different soul to slime god

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And i doubt slime god has that much potential

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Since its fucking
Slime

mighty zenith
spice torrent
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aight

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eh

mighty zenith
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also yea isnt goozma like

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a different entity actually

split mortar
spice torrent
# mighty zenith a different entity actually

Goozma is a major boss that takes the form of the Slime God attuned with virtually every slime in the Terrarian world. It is intended to be fought after Yharon, Dragon of Rebirth has been defeated, around the same time as Supreme Witch, Calamitas and the Exo Mechs.

mighty zenith
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ah okay

split mortar
mighty zenith
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i thought since it like, created an auric soul

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it wasnt slime god anymore

spice torrent
split mortar
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Not in base cal

mighty zenith
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it doesn't in base cal

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gods don't have auric souls

dusk laurel
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absorbing an auric soul is different from having one

spice torrent
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exactly

dusk laurel
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sg absorbed an auric soul, goozma created one

spice torrent
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SG was severely damaged in his battle with Yharim's forces, and had to flee

split mortar
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We kill slime god

spice torrent
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that is why he is so weak when we fight him

dusk laurel
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no?

split mortar
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It fleas yeah but the god is just naturally weak

young socket
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no its weak because its not focused on fighting

spice torrent
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He only survived by fleeing constantly and tactically

split mortar
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It goes against what would give it power (consuming)

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Slimegod in base cal is just a weak god

spice torrent
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the reason why is due to the nature of what he is a god of

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slime

young socket
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sg just wants to make roombas that absorb the corruption/crimson

spice torrent
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the more there is, the more powerful he gets

split mortar
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Theres a lot of ash yet providence doesnt get stronger

spice torrent
paper spindle
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Hmm my mind wanders. Where do gods go when they're not being summoned

split mortar
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Providences domain is ash

spice torrent
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the very nature of slimes is that, the more of them there are, the stronger they get

split mortar
spare pier
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The existence of more slimes does not make SG directly stronger

spice torrent
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Ash is not like that

spice torrent
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Only when he absorbs the slimes does he get stronger

split mortar
spare pier
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If Slime God ate a bajillion slimes, then yeah they'd get stronger

spice torrent
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he can also shape new slimes

young socket
split mortar
spice torrent
split mortar
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Yeah thats what im saying

spice torrent
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yep

spare pier
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For posterity, a Slime God which was actively attempting to become stronger would likely land at like

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Post Plant

paper spindle
spare pier
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Because, shockingly

split mortar
spice torrent
spare pier
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It's not easy to literally have all the slime in the world in it

spice torrent
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yeah

unborn wind
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i could grow stronger if i ate a bajillion slimes..

split mortar
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No you would get obese

spice torrent
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the only reason Goozma managed to form is because you gave it a catalyst to absorb all slimes

unborn wind
spice torrent
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The Overloaded Sludge, during Slime Rain, thrown onto a vessel of the Slime God.

split mortar
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Slime god gets absorbed by queen slime it already has had contact with that catalyst

paper spindle
long bloom
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slime god absorbs hallow stuff and becomes queen slime

long bloom
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source?

unborn wind
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im already pretty flammable its fine

split mortar
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They try to make a paladin and get absorbed

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By said paladin

mighty zenith
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yeah slime god itself doesnt absorb the evil

spice torrent
mighty zenith
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it makes slimes to do that

spice torrent
long bloom
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the wording of the lore item does not communicate that effectively then

dusk laurel
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yeah

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because yharim wrote it

spice torrent
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Yharim is biased

split mortar
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Yharim is john biased

spice torrent
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Like how he doesnt mention he SENT CALAMITAS TO KILL PERMAFROST

mighty zenith
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yeah of course he'd call the slime god a vessel for evil

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thats what he wants

spice torrent
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He lies and leaves out details to make him look better and his adversaries to look worse

split mortar
spice torrent
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he usually does a good job without too much bias, but some sneaks in occasionally

split mortar
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A lot of bias gets in

spice torrent
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yeah

paper spindle
split mortar
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Yharim infact seems to encourage being on your hitlist

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Or atleast doesnt care

mighty zenith
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yea lol

paper spindle
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Also that raises a question. HOW does yharim talk to us

split mortar
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The yhrock

spice torrent
mighty zenith
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whatsapp

paper spindle
spice torrent
cloud ibex
dusk laurel
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rocks

split mortar
mighty zenith
spice torrent
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I mean, do you know the lyrics of RoTJD

unborn wind
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mf tyrant calling me

split mortar
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Yharims depression is due to not fucking the world up more

dusk laurel
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bro got the nokia flip phone

spice torrent
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It is literally Yharon warning Yharim of you

split mortar
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And

paper spindle
cloud ibex
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where they'd all basically be replaced with the magical equivalent of a walkie talkie that lets him yap about things when you beat bosses, enter certain biomes etc.

mighty zenith
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he's depressed because he can't complete his goal

split mortar
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You can be depressed and evil

spice torrent
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Yharon cares so much about him

split mortar
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Yharon is also evil

mighty zenith
mighty zenith
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yharon encouraged him to start the crusade

split mortar
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Yharon helped with the global genocide and infact hasnt changed

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The yhar are just
Evil

dusk laurel
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yharon got kicked out of the groupchat

split mortar
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So sad smash like and subscribe and dont forget the bell

cloud ibex
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more like his account got disabled

dusk laurel
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ture

dark sundial
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Besides the dragon king who is the strongest dragon yharon?

pulsar ocean
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uhhh probably the dragon of geometrical space idk

dark sundial
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And you guys would have yharon as a pet?

dusk laurel
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if we go by all dragons

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then the primordial wyrm would be 2nd place

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if by auric dragons, then yharon is 2nd

dark sundial
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Primordial wrym is the big snake from abyss right?

dusk laurel
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yeah

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its an actual dragon and is planned to be completely revamped

pulsar ocean
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so like a boss pre yharim or something

cloud ibex
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also the whole war criminal thing that's also kind of a deal breaker

pulsar ocean
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or

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in clamity

unborn wind
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i have 3 cats which is better than anything yharon could possibly give me

dark sundial
dark sundial
cloud ibex
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i also meant yharon

dark sundial
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You guys think that a prime moonlord fight would be cool?

dusk laurel
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this is crazy

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the bots have switched to tiktok links now

manic coral
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i was writing a permafrost line and halfway through realized vanilla made the same joke and then i thought

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"i don't care"

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and kept writing it

long bloom
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what was the joke

dusk laurel
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vanilla dialogue doesnt exist iirc

long bloom
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sweden no longer exists ๐Ÿ˜”

limpid saddle
dusk laurel
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for real

manic coral
woven citrus
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hi everyone, ive check multiple sources and have no idea what astrum deus is so can sombody tell me?

manic coral
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i at least wanna acknowledge them

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and flesh them out at least a little bit

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like

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here actually i JUST wrote this

I must say, if nothing else, {Name of Steampunker} certainly has my respect! It is exceedingly rare to catch an inventor type like her somewhere like this, and not just because of the danger. Nearly anybody who is as familiar with technology as her had to have lived a rather rich and privileged life to have access to the resources to learn such skills, something she likely abandoned to be here right now. Most people like her can hardly bear to be too far from any major city, and much less somewhere like this!

snow mountain
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oblivion writing

cloud ibex
young socket
manic coral
young socket
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o wait nvm it is

woven citrus
#

wow

young socket
manic coral
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the only people who saw full benifit of the basically tehcnological reovlution draedon started

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were the rich and the military

young socket
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was worshipped

manic coral
#

for more sepcifics involving Deus, Draedon is somebody who talks a fair bit about it

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when you ask him abotu the astral infection

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What interested me the most were the reports of an infected Astrum Deus patrolling the Infection. Until the rot afflicted it fully, the closest it had ever been spotted was in Terraria's higher atmosphere. Further analysis pointed towards it being the catalyst for the infection's arrival on the surface. Though I have not found a concrete reason as to why and how this happened, I do have a hypothesis.

As you may know, stars are concentrations of magic that form over countless years of ambient mana gathering together in deep space. With the mana having nothing to gravitate towards but itself, it condenses until it becomes a brilliant star. Stars that grow too large begin to collapse, degenerating and forming clots of Astral Infection. Throughout the cosmos at large, this is a rare occurrence, as Astrum Deus intermittently devours large stars for sustenance.

However, space is unfathomably large. If Astrum Deus were to vanish from space for even a brief time, some number of stars should visibly degenerate into Astral Infection, observable via telescope. Yet such observations show no significant increase in the quantity of collapsed stars. Furthermore, I know from my calculations that the observable universe is far, far too large to support a scenario where Astrum Deus disappears.

It is therefore almost certain the Astrum Deus we know is simply one of many. Anything further I say on this matter is speculation.

The infected Astrum Deus near our world may be a juvenile. This would explain why it could struggle to devour a star or fail to identify an infected star as a potential hazard. It then grew sick and crashed onto the nearest planet. As there are presumably many others of its kind, space on the whole is largely unaffected. I welcome any other hypotheses you may have.

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"if you ask him about it", i say, like i didn't write 85% of this

woven citrus
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oh okay

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wait i got a BIG question

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who created wulfrum?

manic coral
#

and then the Whisper that drops from Deus itself as per Yharim

young socket
manic coral
#

On our world, this being is revered as the God of the night sky. It is said to devour dying stars and birth new ones in turn.
Unlike the many Gods you or I know, it is guiltless. An important distinction, for it was equally as diseased as they.
The infection that tainted its body is from beyond Terraria. Neither I nor Draedon recognize it fully.
With its will subsumed, it hurled a chunk of infested astral matter at our world, then came to guard it.
Thankfully, such a grandiose being that walks amongst the stars is likely not truly dead.
While the land has paid a terrible price, the price of a wrongful conviction is higher still.

woven citrus
manic coral
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nobody in particular did

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can grasp basiclaly what it is from the wulfrum enemy bestiayr entries

snow mountain
manic coral
snow mountain
#

JOHN WULFRUM

young socket
cloud ibex
young socket
#

iogn

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gkodnf

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JOGN WULDUEMEM

snow mountain
#

he should be canon

young socket
#

no

woven citrus
#

i thought two brothers made wulfrum

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about a year ago

cloud ibex
#

could be

woven citrus
#

idk where i got it from

cloud ibex
#

we don't really know

snow mountain
#

make him canon or i will jump ouit lore writers' computers and go into the nearest basement

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it will be insidious,,,

dusk laurel
#

dont you have calamity fables for that

woven citrus
#

bud what comes after?!

snow mountain
woven citrus
#

Hear me out wulfrum was secretely made by turkor the ungrateful

dusk laurel
#

thumbs down emoji

snow mountain
#

turkor my beloved

woven citrus
#

wait no it was the mr stabbys

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they forged wulfrum

jaunty sleet
#

whenever there's somethin of unknown origin i assume azafure since yknow

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big forging capital

long bloom
#

if john wulfrum doesn't become canon i'll burn down the jungle

robust osprey
#

john wulfrum was ocram all along

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ocram's GREAT COMEBACK!

long bloom
#

has it been decided roughly how big the terraria continent is?

lunar thorn
#

OnePiece level?

long bloom
#

oh god not more powerscaling

cloud ibex
#

i don't think this is powerscaling this is just one piece having a world with Continents

dusk laurel
#

its the planet

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and all we know is that its one of the smaller 2 out of the 5

lunar thorn
#

Is the Ocram death message still in Cal?

crystal pendant
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if you mean "<player> was sent to ocram's house", that is a vanilla message, so yes

long bloom
#

there

crystal pendant
#

i thought it was called heartlands or smth

dusk laurel
#

thats like the nickname

long bloom
#

i think so

dusk laurel
#

its called whatever you name your world

crystal pendant
long bloom
dusk laurel
#

awesome

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the continent terraria on the planet terraria

young socket
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just a name people use since its player dependant

visual kiln
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mreowmeow

dusk laurel
#

now we just need a city named terraria on terraria

dusk laurel
young socket
visual kiln
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squeak squeak

young socket
#

no mice either

crystal pendant
lunar thorn
#

@dusk laurel ๐Ÿ˜บ

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Yeah I just meant the vanilla death message

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Is Lunatic Cultist trying to spawn ML in Cal?

dusk laurel
#

nah

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the cultist is part of the dragon cult, and well, the dragons didnt exactly like ml (they sealed it away), so theyre continuing what the dragons did

gaunt sluice
#

Ping me when sso

long bloom
#

tomorrow

lunar thorn
#

So the cultists are confident they can beat ML?

dusk laurel
#

no theyre just keeping the seal running

lunar thorn
#

And no lore on reason for why we summon em b/c T-bro is us?

gaunt sluice
#

I don't have The Imageโ„ข

lunar thorn
#

Could the Cultist beat MoonMan?

long bloom
#

fuck no

cloud ibex
#

probably not no

long bloom
#

coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb

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doesn't even cut it

cloud ibex
#

even in the state he's in when you fight him

gaunt sluice
#

Think of how easy cultist is to beat man

cloud ibex
#

generally speaking boss order is a good indicator of rough power progression

lunar thorn
#

I was wondering b/c I remember Cultist being mildly difficult and close to ML on power progression and jumped to a conclusion

gaunt sluice
#

Could Cal stand against pre-dragon ML

lunar thorn
#

No

gaunt sluice
#

Yea idk how strong he was back in the olden days

cloud ibex
#

nobody except xeroc could

unborn wind
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cultist would be like a fly buzzing around moon lord's head

cloud ibex
#

at least not alone

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iirc if like

gaunt sluice
#

Alr fair

cloud ibex
#

all the other people at the top in terms of power worked together it's been said that they could maybe, just BARELY win

lunar thorn
#

Some lore-smiths mentioned the strongest dragon before ml came was Zaretros, and Zarwtros is close to Yharim in power and Scal is close to Yharim in power. And Zaretros got a fatal injury from ml-pre-messed up

cloud ibex
#

prime ML was a fucking beast

gaunt sluice
#

Zeratros got drop kicked

unborn wind
#

is there a reason moon lord attacked terraria did he just feel like it

cloud ibex
#

we don't know

unborn wind
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got bored

cloud ibex
#

for all we're aware he's just a bastard

long bloom
#

for the funnies

gaunt sluice
#

So is ML a natural being

long bloom
#

probably

gaunt sluice
#

Yeesus

long bloom
#

i'd hate to imagine whatever created him

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if that were the case

gaunt sluice
#

I meant natural like normal biological evolution led to this man

long bloom
#

yeag

lunar thorn
#

After Cal mod is complete, Terrarian should go to ML's planet to fight his brother Cthulhu and colonize the world for Draedon to research

unborn wind
#

after cal mod is complete terrarian should take a really big nap

sinful adder
gaunt sluice
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Cuz like if he is then magic world soul shenanigans gotta get good

sinful adder
#

Yharim vs prime moon lord would be like a very angry hornet vs a human. It can hurt you, but it can't win

long bloom
#

what the hell is a world soul

spare pier
#

You will, infact, discover basically everything about the Moon Lord next update

unborn wind
#

no way

gaunt sluice
lunar thorn
#

no way

gaunt sluice
#

Oh hey Reb

spare pier
#

I do not exaggerate when I say his Bestiary entry will probably be the second most important in the entire game, behind only Yharon's

long bloom
#

jesus

sinful adder
unborn wind
#

POG

lunar thorn
#

Wow

gaunt sluice
#

Whaow

lunar thorn
#

Pogchamp

dusk laurel
#

hehehehe

unborn wind
#

holy mackerel.......

dusk laurel
#

๐Ÿค

#

those who know

gaunt sluice
#

Does the World Soul imply that Terraria was at some point alive

sinful adder
#

I think I heard that before

#

Anyways I gotta go

#

Lore

pulsar ocean
#

How is moonlord not stupid if his brain was out there at the crimson

long bloom
#

not his brain

#

brain of dead god(s)

pulsar ocean
#

So Cthulhu is a separate entity?

gaunt sluice
spare pier
#

Cthulhu is not an entity

long bloom
#

name is irrelevant

#

not canon

lunar thorn
#

Gaia was killed and her soul divided among what it recognized to be the strongest creatures worthy to be the divided souls' new hosts, the dragons! <new lore? ๐Ÿ™‚

spare pier
#

In Cal, "Cthulhu" is a word which means "great beast"

gaunt sluice
#

The World Soul kinda just broke for some reason

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And then some lizards ate it

long bloom
#

nom

gaunt sluice
#

Reb was Terraria alive at some point

spare pier
#

/shrug

lunar thorn
#

And named Gaia

gaunt sluice
#

Whats with the world soul

cloud ibex
young socket
#

the world soul is the world soul

lunar thorn
#

What grime mean?

long bloom
#

Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages ยท Learn more
noun
1.
dirt ingrained on the surface of something.
"the windows were thick with grime"

cloud ibex
lunar thorn
#

Will who and for whom the Yharim's auric armor made stay a mystery?

cloud ibex
lunar thorn
#

Oh, nice ๐Ÿ‘Œ

pulsar ocean
gaunt sluice
#

fair enough

long bloom
#

damn that's 2 people in calcords mentioning bionicles in 1 day

pulsar ocean
long bloom
#

in fables

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talking about the crabulon sprites

pulsar ocean
#

Napoleon would've loved testing crabulon

gloomy yacht
#

Maybe already answered or just an stupid question but

If the slime god is a god, does that mean they also absorbed a dragon's respective auric soul?
Or did the slime god just spawn

pulsar ocean
gloomy yacht
#

Ahh, I didn't catch that, thx

dusk laurel
lunar thorn
#

I want that one, ummm food!

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Was the slume god a slime before absorbing the soul or a human?

pulsar ocean
#

Femboy

lunar thorn
#

Oooooooo... I mean.... wait!

long bloom
#

canonically a genderfluid femboy

#

which is fucking hilarious

lunar thorn
#

Should ask slimegod what clothes to wear

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I mean

#

I thought it would be cute seeing a green slime be given a auric soul and it becomes slime god ๐Ÿ™‚

pulsar ocean
#

Me too

lunar thorn
#

Especially if the green slime came across the soul on accident and absorbed it either by accident or b/c "ooo shiny!" (Two people fight for the soul and die fighting, leaving the soul out in the open to be eaten by a random green slime hoppin' by)

#

Any lore on Queen Slime?

pulsar ocean
#

Wanting to make a hallowed paladin and then it got absorbed itself

#

Pretty sure that's it

cloud ibex
# lunar thorn Any lore on Queen Slime?

SG tries to make themselves a new paladin out of hallowed materia, you catch them off guard and kill them before they get a chance to escape since they're stuck in the crystal

fading helm
#

like if it depends on power, willpower, if you can change how you see fit or smth else

lunar thorn
#

Part of SG is in the Queen Slime Crystal?

dusk laurel
#

sg is the crystal id assume

lunar thorn
#

It depends on power. If you are strong before you will be stronger then you normally would when ascended compared to being weak beforehand

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@dusk laurel interesting, perhaps a way to escape death too? By having multiple vessels

dusk laurel
#

draedon

lunar thorn
#

Si indeed

dusk laurel
#

draedon is a prime example of having multiple vessels

lunar thorn
#

Does Slime God have the ability to make a lot of vessels? Or just a few big ones?

dusk laurel
#

well

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not really afawk

lunar thorn
#

I wonder if he trained more if he could and pull a Draedon

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I'd try to do that and scatter them across the world to avoid Yharim

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Like Voldemort's hollocruxs

#

I'd be fun if the Terrarian kept Slime God alive and feed it cosmolite bars XD

#

"The Devourer Of The Devourer Of Gods"

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Or exoprisms

#

Gotta train to eat stronger materials = becomes Goozma

fading helm
#

do we know why the primordial wyrm has beef with xeroc? or well primordial light

dusk laurel
#

its probably because

#

xeroc was the one who took zeratros' soul, and became the new wielder of pl

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so pw associates it with him

fading helm
#

yeah but like

#

why does that bother him?

dusk laurel
#

pw is a dragon, and zeratros was their ruler

dark sundial
#

Which one of the calamity bosses could win against primordial wyrm

#

?

gritty kraken
#

Unless you count the guy that made boss rush trial

robust osprey
#

maybe yharim if outside abyss

#

but yharim doesnt count

dark sundial
#

So the primordial wyrm would kick Providence, DoG, Yharon, Exo mechs and Calamitas ass?

robust osprey
#

exos and Scal would probably give a battle outside abyss

#

if they're IN abyss, they're ultra cooked

#

specially Scal probably

sinful adder
robust osprey
sinful adder
robust osprey
#

if they're all together jared gets cooked

#

fried even

#

but like

sinful adder
#

Yeah

robust osprey
#

DoG and provi....

#

well maybe jared still wins beacuse of the internal conflicts in that group

sinful adder
#

Jared still beats DoG

robust osprey
#

Scal probably hates everyone there

sinful adder
#

Oh wait you mean they fight each other

robust osprey
#

ye

dark sundial
#

So if everyone jump him he is cooked even in the abyss?

sinful adder
#

I mean... Not sure. He could probably beat most of them but not all of them

robust osprey
#

could Scal even like

#

survive

#

in abyss

sinful adder
#

I kind of doubt it. If I had to guess, it would drain her shield rapidly

manic coral
#

somehow

sinful adder
#

Huh

robust osprey
#

I imagined they fighting and then suddenly stopping and Scal is like "hey why don't we go kill yharim better"

#

and they all agree

sinful adder
#

I thought Jared was almost as strong as yharim. Also, Providence is significantly weaker than DoG, and DoG is significantly weaker than Yharon

#

Yharon in turn is significantly weaker than Scal and the exo mechs

#

As measured from a player's perspective of how hard a fight is with different equipment

real silo
#

I don't believe they're significantly weaker

#

Like provi would still be a little bit challenging for dog

spring helm
#

without his armour at least

real silo
#

dogojo vs provikuna

frank basalt
#

How long could daytime eol last against yharim?

prime mauve
#

until night :)

#

(I have no idea)

real silo
#

Yharim would blow her up

#

One punch man style

muted torrent
#

so just making sure I have this right: The terrarian gets repelled by the auric ore because they havent befriended a dragon and the reason the terrarian is able to make armor out of it is because theyre tricking it into thinking they befriended a dragon so they let them use it. This is the same reason that the gods in calamity are unable to use auric ore, is because they killed a dragon and absorbed it's soul, basically forsaking them from using auric ore?

split mortar
#

Yeah basically

#

Jared should spawn if you have solar gear on

sinful adder
tidal tulip
#

So that's why our armor can't Auric reject enemies. I always wondered that

lunar thorn
#

@split mortar Why would he spawn if you got solar armor on?

split mortar
#

Jared dislikes people using primordial light

#

Hence why they anger when we teleport

split mortar
magic epoch
#

jared is a moth and the rod is a lamp

lunar thorn
#

Interesante

#

"Xeroc! Where is my suppa-suit!" (Solarflare Armor)

manic coral
#

uhhhhhhhhh in solar armor it's way more condensed meanwhile it's way more chaotic when the rod of discord is used

#

and spread out

dusk laurel
#

๐Ÿ‘๏ธ

manic coral
#

i mean it DOES drop from chaos elementals

#

therfore it cna be sensed way easier

young socket
#

or u could say that the specific phrasing in thebestiary is intentional

#

and that solar fragments arent "ursurped"

#

and somehow pw can tell

manic coral
#

also solar progments are just warped from the usual thing it'd expect

hoary cape
#

The pillars are odd

manic coral
#

ok whatever fuck it

#

anyways

#

yeah hi

split mortar
#

Hai

young socket
#

hello

manic coral
#

they're even

hoary cape
#

Banning you

young socket
#

we c an fix that with YOUR help

dusk laurel
split mortar
#

Yet theres 5 materials
Odd

young socket
#

im develop[ing a new addon for calamity!!! calamity: fifth pillar!

#

meld pillar!!!!!!

split mortar
#

Meld pillar when

hoary cape
#

I meant odd as in strange

young socket
#

(im not this would be awful)

young socket
manic coral
hoary cape
#

Promote melon to dev for one day have him create meld pillar and then leave

manic coral
#

no

#

just one line of dialogue

hoary cape
#

For fovos

#

But it's just alien

manic coral
#

jokes on you

hoary cape
#

Because no one can understand him

manic coral
#

it's not smart enough to comprehend the idea of speech

split mortar
manic coral
#

or at least

#

any form of advanced speech

dusk laurel
hoary cape
#

Fovos

split mortar
#

Explode even

hoary cape
#

I wouldn't trash talk you, you have been banned 25 times that's already enough pain

hoary cape
dusk laurel
#

true

split mortar
#

So solar fragments are primordial light with the fovos touch got it

young socket
young socket
split mortar
#

Tsuki the zoo creature being zoo creature i see

hoary cape
#

Are the pillars opening portals in a sense to their home world or are they just like space ships that have them hiding inside lol ๐Ÿค”

dusk laurel
hoary cape
#

Time to rename melon to glorp

split mortar
#

I dont act like that unlike tsuki

split mortar
hoary cape
#

I won't without your permission don't worry

young socket
split mortar
split mortar
#

This isnt permission to renamep

hoary cape
#

I will not abuse my power

split mortar
#

Yays

hoary cape
#

But banning you another time is always an alternative

split mortar
hoary cape
#

Would be funny if pillars were like spaceships

split mortar
split mortar
hoary cape
#

Fake brain

#

Also alien biology is obviously the opposite. The bigger the brain the dumber you are. The smaller the brain the more intelligent

robust osprey
#

some braincells might be dead

#

so yeah it is dumb

split mortar
#

Moonlord can probably survive decapitation

#

Which part? We dunno

robust osprey
#

it can survive but can the braincells survive?

hoary cape
#

I took fovos' brain cells

split mortar
#

Pluh

hoary cape
#

Not even the most powerful mortal weapon can take that things head off

lunar thorn
#

Meld Pillar When?

lunar thorn
#

Have to fight meld pillar before Yharim like ML (YES!)

spring helm
dusk laurel
#

โ˜ ๏ธ

untold oracle
#

@ches

lunar thorn
#

Is the Slime God core supposed to escape?

split mortar
#

Yes

#

It flees

lunar thorn
#

And flees into his minion Queen Slime to survive?

split mortar
#

And dies in queen slime fight

split mortar
#

Else they would have used that paladin aswell (and is the hallowed paladin)

#

And queen slime actually breaks free of slime gods control and attacks it

#

Hence absorption

#

And slime god dies as a collateral to the qs fight

lunar thorn
#

What is the outcome of qs fighting sg?

split mortar
#

Slimegod got absorbed

#

Its prob the crystal in qs

lunar thorn
#

So sg became comatose by the time we fight qs?

split mortar
#

Yes

lunar thorn
#

Could sg be revived if the crystal(if him) was spared?

split mortar
#

Look at ravager to see how effective reviving a god is

split mortar
#

Necromancy sucks

lunar thorn
#

So he's not just unconscious? But close to dead?

split mortar
#

After the qs fight they are straight up dead

lunar thorn
#

So if the crystal core(if him) was not broken in the fight would still be dead?

split mortar
#

idk

lunar thorn
#

And if someone feed slime god a cosmolite bar sg would die?

split mortar
#

I doubt slimegod can even consume cosmilite when its in a solid state
Tho liquid cosmilite is prob a big nono for consuming in any degree for anything from terraria

lunar thorn
#

What boss materials could sg eat to train to get stronger?

#

Without dying you think?

split mortar
robust osprey
#

sg eating exo prism

lunar thorn
#

No goosma

#

It's fun to think about how high Slime God's potential is from absorption ability

pliant ruin
#

consume yharons auric soul
use ur cool new divine soul revival powers to revive all the dead benevolent gods
profit

lunar thorn
#

He's the pink guy that gets stronger?

robust osprey
#

yes

#

gets stronger by absorbing people

split mortar
lunar thorn
#

Sg absorbs Skeletron, brain/eater before going for evil hives

#

Wears King Slime's crown

#

Wonder if he could beat aquatic scourge

robust osprey
#

maybe if he plays the right cards

#

sg is known for being good at strategy iirc

#

but in raw strenght sg is probably cooked

lunar thorn
#

Prob send a minion to test the Scourge, tries getting corrosive immunity from eating Acid Rain enemies, repeats?

robust osprey
#

maybe sg already has corrosive inmunity in some way

#

I mean other slimes survived it HDfailure

lunar thorn
#

Reincarnated A Slime God: Volume 1

#

*as

#

Would Yharim leave Slime God alone if we didn't deal with em?

split mortar
lunar thorn
#

Sg ascended in a not bad way in his eyes?

robust osprey
#

EVERY god is a sinner

#

(in yharim's eyes)

#

no matter how they ascended

split mortar
#

To be a god is to deserve death in yharims eyes

split mortar
robust osprey
#

even the god of happiness and rainbows is a BAD. PERSON.

split mortar
#

Yharims racist against gods basically

lunar thorn
#

So part of the reason Yharim wouldn't mess with sg besides depression is that sg didn't do alot of bad stuff after ascending?

split mortar
unborn wind
#

yharim wants all gods dead no matter who they are or what they have done

split mortar