Guess who's getting his powers
#lore-discussion
paper spindle
manic coral
you know the funniest part nobody points out is that
that's not true actually
you can see it land later
split mortar
you can see it land later
Lmao
paper spindle
I'll start my ranger playthrough tommorow. And this time I won't use insta houses
I'll... Actually build. And I'll try to make it look good too
Also another question
Draedon mentions that the mech trio has actual names.
Like H something - something
split mortar
H stands for hallowed
paper spindle
H stands for hallowed
Precisely my question thanks
split mortar
And the other letter corosponds to the soul they had
So destroyer is hm whatever for hallowed might iirc
paper spindle
I love how draedon is consistent pissed about the terrarian's naming of things
Like miracle matter
split mortar
I love how draedon is consistent pissed about the terrarian's naming of things
Tbf they do fucking suck
Skeletron prime
paper spindle
Skeletron prime
No connection to skeleton aside looks
The other names are still cool tho
Especially Retinazer
Spazmatism sounds like a term for a seizure
split mortar
No connection to skeleton aside looks
Infact skele prime could be older
tropic oak
prime
split mortar
Spazmatism sounds like a term for a seizure
Its literally spasm and astigmatism
Pretty sure spasm is related ti that tho i aint a human rocket scientist so dont quote me
paper spindle
Hmm
paper spindle
cause it shoots laser
Red Lazer go brrr
tropic oak
ocram
lethal mirage
razor
paper spindle
Imagine there was a mechdusa of the Exo mechs
split mortar
Imagine there was a mechdusa of the Exo mechs
Hecate:
split mortar
♾️
lethal mirage
woa
paper spindle
What's it's soul letter
split mortar
Exo mechs dont have a soul
paper spindle
But they've got letters based off of what mech boss they're based off. XM-0(something) thanatos
young socket
What's it's soul letter
b for blight
paper spindle
b for blight
So XB-∞ Hekate
young socket
mhm
split mortar
Exootic resonance blight - ♾️ Hekate
prime mauve
So XB-∞ Hekate
yup
elfin silo
So, a Crabulon question that has been on my mind for many years, is the original crab still alive to any extent (in the current version of lore, that is), or is it just a bunch of mushrooms?
young socket
So, a Crabulon question that has been on my mind for many years, is the original...
no
its dead
elfin silo
This sucks
paper spindle
This is the only metric for bosses that matter
Hmm crab and shrooms
split mortar
So, a Crabulon question that has been on my mind for many years, is the original...
Its just a dead infected crab
But we will see alive members of its species once sso comes out
prime mauve
It would likely not taste good
idk crab and mushroom
magic epoch
Hmm crab and shrooms
The crab is fucking dead
prime mauve
mushroom is food
magic epoch
There is no more crab to eat it is ROTTEN
young socket
glowing mushrooms are canonically eaten
young socket
u use em in potions and the truffle mentions other npcs wanting to eat it
paper spindle
The crab is fucking dead
Then shroom in a plate made of crab claw shell
magic epoch
but theyre likely for. "Recreational" reason
Glowing Mushrooms are at least not as edible as normal mushrooms
prime mauve
I can fix that
magic epoch
Glowing Mushrooms are at least not as edible as normal mushrooms
Since they can be eaten raw, as well as be put in meals (goldfish soup uses mushroom I think)
With crabulon, you're getting a lovely serving of... at best a mana stew served in crab shell bowl
elfin silo
There is no more crab to eat it is ROTTEN
He was a good crab... What a rotten way to die
split mortar
We will come across more of the same species
dusk laurel
terror
magic cliff
mold is that extra seasoning and experience
lethal mirage
With crabulon, you're getting a lovely serving of... at best a mana stew served ...
delicious
magic cliff
i want rotten diseased mold ridden crab 🤤mmmmmcrab
lethal mirage
exactly!!
lunar thorn
What are summons? Are they just things that choose to fight for someone? Like attack dogs?
young socket
mana creations
lunar thorn
Smart mana that attacks what it perceives to be a threat to what made it?
lethal mirage
sulphurous sea toxicatfish... mmmm mm nuclear rotten fishh 🤤
i eat nuclear terror
lethal mirage
yummy
dusk laurel
time is a flat circle
young socket
🔵
magic cliff
Smart mana that attacks what it perceives to be a threat to what made it?
im assuming since it's the player's mana it would be linked to what the player perceives as threats
lunar thorn
I'd like to have irl summons like stands in jojo, don't have to lift a finger or learn hard combat to win a fight
magic cliff
yeah def not sentient,, they r just mana,, my best friend stardust dragon
lunar thorn
Starcell staff boi stacking debuffs on Moon Man
pliant ruin
if i had a jojo stand i'd have gold experience except i would only summon babies and pitbulls
lunar thorn
I'd want The World, (especially if i didn't age in frozen time) so I can take a rest from everything and not worry about responsibilities for a while and explore the world. + hard to kill. (Dunno if a regular human would get better reflexes from the stand or if Jotaro is just upper built diffrent like Yharim)
pliant ruin
the world stops time for like 11 seconds it has basically no utility
is it even 11 seconds i think its less
robust osprey
timestop 0,001 seconds after the previous timestop ends
young socket
is it even 11 seconds i think its less
9 at its maximum
sp seems to fluctuate in how long it can stop time for so i think its based on how often u use it
lunar thorn
Then I'd go for either Heaven's Door, or The World Over Heaven
young socket
y didnt dio just use over heaven to stop time for an infinite amount of time? is he stupid???
lunar thorn
I don't know, maybe he thought he couldn't be defeated. Jotaro did just get SUPER lucky by all of a sudden getting Star Platinum Over Heaven at the end.
pliant ruin
real ones will choose a stand that isn't even powerful it just has really good utility
like, paisley park
lunar thorn
Rather not be a real one, I rather be lazy w/ no one able to mess with me
pliant ruin
my ideology is like. okay i have star platnum. how often am i even gonna use it. i'm this theoretical scenario i'm the only person with a stand so unless i like, get mugged or something, i'm probably barely using it.
so instead i just go for stands that can actually help me in the long term. LIKE PEARL JAM YEAH
YOURE SO RIGHT
pearl jam is like my go to stand
young socket
it made fucking okayasu think water tastes phenomanaly
young socket
PLUS it gives amazing health benefits
lethal mirage
pearl jam goes hard tbh
like the band
pliant ruin
+easiest skincare routine of my life
young socket
like the band
YES THEYRE ALL BANDS
lethal mirage
i havent watched jojo
young socket
u should
lethal mirage
too lazy
pliant ruin
pear jam is s tier stand for having in real life
lethal mirage
pearto
pliant ruin
if i could pick any stand id pick pearl jam
heaven's door technically provides insane utility but i think if i had it i'd let the power get to my head and become evil so i don't want it because i don't want to be evil
young socket
heaven's door technically provides insane utility but i think if i had it i'd le...
lmao true
pliant ruin
kudos to rohan for like. not being evil. he has the strongest stand ever and hes not evil. good job
young socket
yea
lunar thorn
write +super beautiful+invincible+noaging on yourself with Heaven's Door
lethal mirage
already am
young socket
u can literally write "u listen to my every command" on anyone
lunar thorn
I wouldn't want the responsibility of a big leadership role
young socket
like u can give urself knowledge too
"oh yea i know every language known to mankind"
pliant ruin
+can code physics perfectly fine and does not struggle with them at all
i'd need that one.
young socket
+can code physics perfectly fine and does not struggle with them at all
cheese code
pliant ruin
i love cheese code
lunar thorn
"nohit scal first try" (mods find out u cheated somehow, get perma banned)
pliant ruin
hiya
young socket
sorry i banned lore discussions
dire sluice
girl, tell me about the guide
young socket
theyre now illegal
pliant ruin
yeah we just go offtopic sometimes while nobody is talking abt lore but you're free to ask any questions you have
the guide dosen't really have much if any lore on calamity atm
lunar thorn
what would scal think of Terrarian fighting her with no armor? insulted?
pliant ruin
buttt
dire sluice
the guide dosen't really have much if any lore on calamity atm
does this make you sad?
it makes me anguish
pliant ruin
there have been talks about some new lines he might be getting futurely that imply he used to live on azafure and was one of the mages that sealed WoF? idrm exactly, don't quote me on this
i don't really care too much
young socket
what would scal think of Terrarian fighting her with no armor? insulted?
the ominous quotes being added in sso
dire sluice
YOU DON'T CARE????
pliant ruin
nah
dire sluice
MODS
young socket
fuck i replied to the wrong message
pliant ruin
hey i used to be one of those
dusk laurel
lunar thorn
what's sso?
pliant ruin
sunken sea overhaul
dire sluice
hey i used to be one of those
till you started sucking at it I see
lunar thorn
ok
pliant ruin
next major cal update, reworks the sunken sea and the underground desert and a ton of other stuff
its pretty cool
pliant ruin
till you started sucking at it I see
ngl i just got bored of it
lunar thorn
special quotes for bosses if you do diffrent stuff?
dire sluice
ngl i just got bored of it
so you had to quit? I can only see that if you were paid
pliant ruin
that'd be neat
young socket
fuck i replied to the wrong message
_ _
dire sluice
and if you were paid
calm patio
so you had to quit? I can only see that if you were paid
thats the neat part, they dont get paid 
pliant ruin
so you had to quit? I can only see that if you were paid
no mods don't get paid
its volunteer work
pliant ruin
ngl i wouldn't ever make fun of someone for being a paid discord mod like
god damn youre making bank
id envy them
young socket
I can just make fun of you for being a paid discord mod
wats wrong with that
lunar thorn
yeah
young socket
its not
dire sluice
and they're not very innacurate
pliant ruin
my favorite trope is the one of the really strong guy that gets instantly obliterated by a even stronger guy to show how the stronger guy is like realy strong
dire sluice
would you rather I said stereotype
young socket
my favourite trope is fridging obviously
pliant ruin
what does that even mean
young socket
what does that even mean
fridging?
dire sluice
yes
lunar thorn
mine is when the strong bad guy wins b/c that's realistic
dire sluice
wtf does that mean
pliant ruin
how is the strong bad guy winning realistic
dire sluice
to fridging
dire sluice
how is the strong bad guy winning realistic
strong
dire sluice
i love it when an mc gets his ass beat
young socket
it means killing off a (usually unimportant) character for the sake of plot
dire sluice
then learns
pliant ruin
it means killing off a (usually unimportant) character for the sake of plot
I FUCKING LOVE FRIDGING
ITS SUCH GOOD WRITING PRACTICE!!!!
young socket
it means killing off a (usually unimportant) character for the sake of plot
like technically batmans parents r fridged cuz u meet em then u see em die and that whole thing is reason why batman is batman
pliant ruin
hi citrus are you going to scream at us for being offtopic right about now
becuase i mean eah valid
scarlet axle
it means killing off a (usually unimportant) character for the sake of plot
fridging basically always applies to female characters suffering as objects of motivation for male characters
no im going to talk about fridging
pliant ruin
oh ok i see
dire sluice
hi citrus are you going to scream at us for being offtopic right about now
is this the one to watch
anyway about that lore
could use more
scarlet axle
its a more specific concept than characters being used as plot devices
dire sluice
blood
pliant ruin
idk man i think the blood of the millions yharim killed is already alot
dire sluice
calamity maybe
pliant ruin
that too
dire sluice
theres an entire blood biome
so what, more
dusk laurel
also theres a blood boss
young socket
blood moon
lunar thorn
Like when a hero uses a Deus Ex Machina to win b/c they all other paths to victory are unable to work. In a narrative like that I'd like to see the villain win b/c there are no stakes if the hero gets saved by miracles
visual kiln
hiiiii
pliant ruin
hai azzy
dire sluice
I WANT TO GO BLOOD TIDE FISHING AND GET BLOOD CORAL
dusk laurel
its p
visual kiln
p
lunar thorn
B... is a Khorne worshipper
lethal mirage
fridging basically always applies to female characters suffering as objects of m...
fridging is like when i put stuff in fridge
so cold
i think...
young socket
azzy i will fridge you for the sake of making cheese the next superhero/villain
dire sluice
alr, enough of this chat, gotta go harass another (without the harassment)
pliant ruin
azzy i will fridge you for the sake of making cheese the next superhero/villain
what the fuck
visual kiln
what does fridging mean
young socket
what the fuck
its for ur character arc
pliant ruin
guess i gotta explode the universe now
dusk laurel
evilgirl873
lethal mirage
😨
lunar thorn
😭
dusk laurel
fridge discussion
young socket
cheese u should watch trope talk series on yt
lunar thorn
mine's downstairs
lunar thorn
nice
visual kiln
tsuki can i absorb u
pliant ruin
living in a appartment and all everythings pretty close by
young socket
tsuki can i absorb u
no
dusk laurel
absorp
lunar thorn
slimegod2
young socket
oh and also
visual kiln
bad azzy bad
grr
lethal mirage
kid named star
thats true
pliant ruin
Anyways this is fun and all but it's very offtopic and i don't want to derail the chat further so imma go now
young socket
fridging is also associated with shock factor too
lunar thorn
like when I'm shocked about the new lore rewrites
pliant ruin
see you all in a indeterminate amount of time
young socket
Anyways this is fun and all but it's very offtopic and i don't want to derail th...
weakling
visual kiln
thats true
why r u star
visual kiln
oh ok
visual kiln
nope
pliant ruin
wee wooo come into my dms wee woo
dusk laurel
evil and fucked up
pliant ruin
🛸
visual kiln
i am empty inside
dire sluice
em sine m hating on lore discussion
lethal mirage
p
visual kiln
p
lunar thorn
p
visual kiln
who r the new loreians
dusk laurel
there are two tribes
visual kiln
stand ready for my arrival worm
dire sluice
worm
dusk laurel
dire sluice
what can you tell me of the secret society
dusk laurel
we they might abduct you if you talk enough here for a decent amount of time
dire sluice
as long as it isn't p
lethal mirage
p
magic epoch
plebians must get a bad name
plesbians
visual kiln
p
visual kiln
i am the ultimate life form
visual kiln
blocked
dire sluice
parried
magic epoch
bloob
visual kiln
bloob
dire sluice
oh god they're all indoctrinated to the same thing, then seperated to fight amongst themselves
visual kiln
@lethal mirage @dire sluice u 2 should fight to the death for my amusement
magic epoch
mine too
lethal mirage
uhh
dire sluice
you smell
lethal mirage
im too tired
visual kiln
oh ok
magic epoch
wait no i like star
dire sluice
p smells funny
magic epoch
nvm
lethal mirage
yay
magic epoch
ya i think they're cool
visual kiln
oh okay
lethal mirage
does this mean i win
lethal mirage
ez
visual kiln
u get a prize
lethal mirage
what prize
visual kiln
5 dollar
magic epoch
not die
dire sluice
all yall lost as far as I'm concerned
lethal mirage
ill take the not die
dire sluice
I'm not die
lethal mirage
hi not die
visual kiln
all yall lost as far as I'm concerned
its okay to be wrong
magic epoch
theres a calamity in my lore discussion
visual kiln
hi not die im dad
lethal mirage
hi dad
dire sluice
ew
visual kiln
hiiiii
lethal mirage
hii
visual kiln
hellooooo
magic epoch
the movie?
lethal mirage
watch football
dusk laurel
puclear phaos pazathoth
visual kiln
why
dire sluice
fuck it, I should've known calamity discord was li ke this
visual kiln
p
magic epoch
fuck it, I should've known calamity discord was li ke this
sorr we're trans it's normal
lethal mirage
transformer
magic epoch
spare pier
Hey can we not turn this chat into insane brainrot?
visual kiln
true
visual kiln
Hey can we not turn this chat into insane brainrot?
oh ok
magic epoch
Hey can we not turn this chat into insane brainrot?
okay, since you asked nicely
lethal mirage
Hey can we not turn this chat into insane brainrot?
srry
dusk laurel
do we banish azzy again
visual kiln
p
magic epoch
what if we raided general t
dusk laurel
who is general t
lunar thorn
doing so would enrich irl lore
lethal mirage
general testosterone
spare pier
I should have a spoiler to post this weekend, btw
lunar thorn
!
dusk laurel
👂
spare pier
But I am considering what to do because I don't think it's worthy of being on the actual channel
We'll see
pliant ruin
Cirrus isn't fabsol, it's not a self insert
i also thought it was one for a while but apparently it's just a oc he made that he really likes
lunar thorn
I just assumed Cirrus was b/c Fabsol's pfp looked like her
dusk laurel
btw reb has there been any news on shimmer forms
calm patio
spare pier
btw reb has there been any news on shimmer forms
Not really, sadly
dusk laurel
shame
visual kiln
<:walterheisenbergwhite:1311090637298208858>
borb
lunar thorn
yes?
Scal shimmered becomes Maid Scal, Waiting Tables timeline is real!
or Calamity Tables!
dusk laurel
lunar thorn
It's when she doesn't get her powers and has to work at a maid café
Yharim stops by to feed his crusading army
🔥
lethal mirage
fire
lunar thorn
indeed! Lore-Smiths be eating tonight!
lunar thorn
How'd you win such a momentus battle?
lunar thorn
yes?
dire sluice
no
paper spindle
Where do the martians fit in calamity
It's strange because I haven't seen them mentioned like anywhere within the lore. Id at least expect draedon to say something of them
paper spindle
Naah they've gotta be on venus
dire sluice
🤜
dire sluice
idk
spring helm
probably in some server
paper spindle
Bro sending spare bodies to watch the Exo fight
paper spindle
probably in some server
Hmm not impossible
It is now my head cannons that Draedon has colonized mars
lethal mirage
wash closet
paper spindle
I made their goalie dc :/
Direct current
lethal mirage
we are hilarious
paper spindle
Truly shocking
So I was just on my own doing some research for the ranger playthrough I'm gonna do later today. And I discovered what flash rounds are
I feel the sudden urge to make a meme now
Am I allowed to post that here?
long bloom
channels are a suggestion nowadays
untold oracle
Yhorm
cosmic minnow
channels are a suggestion nowadays
It’s not just a thing on this discord server
In any I have been on it is
visual kiln
p
hoary berry
long bloom
i'm having timeline troubles, can anyone help
cosmic minnow
I wish I could, got the same issue tho
long bloom
nvm someone in Infernumcord answered
long bloom
i have another problem
ok first
how long ago (from the player showing up) did the crusade end
long bloom
Months roughly
so calamitas is in her late 20s
and cooked ilmeris when she was a teenager
and was mentored by permafrost
and permafrost left and she was ordered to kill him
which is when she left
it's implied permafrost left decades ago which doesn't work unless calamitas ages slower
split mortar
it's implied permafrost left decades ago which doesn't work unless calamitas age...
Nope perma is frozen roughly a decade ago
long bloom
i have a hard time believing it took that long for him to be done with yharim's bullshit
limpid saddle
To be fair Yharim only really began to lose it after Calamitas & DoG showed up
long bloom
so he was mostly pure for 90 years straight?
limpid saddle
Like he was doing bad things sure, but he was a leader, he had charisma, at that point? He basically descended into a frenzied animal as his desperation rose
limpid saddle
so he was mostly pure for 90 years straight?
for the most part yeah
long bloom
that's dumb
limpid saddle
The last like 20 years of the Crusades were really when it went to shit
limpid saddle
that's dumb
may i ask for elaboration?
long bloom
there's not 80 years worth of shit to do that's not morally corrupt
limpid saddle
Like he was doing bad things sure, but he was a leader, he had charisma, at that...
recall this
Permafrost only seemed to completely lose faith in him after he let his own Kingdom & men fall into harm from his own ignorance, like with Polterghast
As he says himself, in those last years he fell eintierly into apathy toward what happened to the soldiers & people he spurned
long bloom
i guess
though all of this could make much more sense if calamitas just aged slower
she's half demon it'd make sense
limpid saddle
I'm not seeing the vision
long bloom
then why horns
limpid saddle
Cei & Rebecca I believe at some point have both said the horns & gray skin are just a quirk developed by living in hell for so long
It's why despite the Guide being azafurian, he doesnt have horns, he's probably from a family that migrated to it
long bloom
is there even any guide lore
limpid saddle
a little
I dont think there's a Calamity explanation for why he explodes when you summon WoF though
that'll likely be resolved in SSO though
long bloom
neat
limpid saddle
Any other queries I can aid you with?
cloud ibex
is there even any guide lore
he misses his wife
paper spindle
he misses his wife
Are you sure?
cloud ibex
yes
paper spindle
Oh wait you're serious. I was just quoting invincible brainrot
cloud ibex
i know
split mortar
so he was mostly pure for 90 years straight?
Hell nah
Yharim from the start was a genocidal maniac
Just
They have a lot of charisma and often prob surprisingly convincing reasoning
cloud ibex
the guide misses his wife
split mortar
Its a reference to
I miss my wife, i miss her a lot ill be back meme
magic epoch
I miss my wife, Tails. I miss her a lot. I'll be back.
dusk laurel
the guide is lonely
lethal mirage
is there any reason that the guide is linked to the wof
long bloom
not yet
pulsar ocean
is there any reason that the guide is linked to the wof
Too guideous
pulsar ocean
Can't yharim just use the anti life equation to kill xeroc
limpid saddle
but why specifically him
to provide depth to his character & motivation for him to help you
lethal mirage
fair
languid badge
If anything wouldn’t this be motivation for him to not help you?
ionic harness
Lore
dire sluice
I chat in here for one day and I have some melee calamity infernum video in my feed now
warped grotto
Is there a lore reason why there's 3 final bosses
languid badge
theres 2?
warped grotto
SCal, Exo Mechs, and Primordial Wyrm
languid badge
wyrm is in the betsy tier of being Schrödinger's boss
and even then its more of a superboss
exos and scal are the "final bosses"
robust osprey
Is there a lore reason why there's 3 final bosses
not lore reason but the actual reason is that
they aren't the actual final bosses
yharim will be
well the lore reason can be those 2 are almost same power
under the yhar
split mortar
SCal, Exo Mechs, and Primordial Wyrm
Jared is a optional guy
And also yharim will be the final boss eventually
split mortar
So true
frozen zodiac
still think calamitas fits better as a final boss fight than draedon
cloud ibex
from a story standpoint yea i'd agree that she fits better as the final step before yharim
split mortar
Scal also just idk
Has the better vibes for second to yhar
long bloom
agreed
mighty zenith
probably because the fight is influenced by emotion
unlike exo mechs which are just a very deadly test
lethal mirage
draedon is just a nerd
lethal mirage
nerd robot is running the numbers
lunar thorn
When someone uses old Scal sprite:
visual kiln
p
pliant ruin
hii
mighty zenith
creatures
dusk laurel
😨
untold oracle
evil evil creaturos
reef wigeon
nerd robot is running the numbers
I will learn mathematical calculations just to calculate the power of the Exo Mechs.
split mortar
I will learn mathematical calculations just to calculate the power of the Exo Me...
Its gonna be roughly same as scal and we know their power
wheat walrus
yea
they were designed to rival Yharim as of last time Draedon met Yharim, Yharim did grow stronger, but Exos are still quite explicitly on SCal's level
Apollo was also specifically designed to simulate SCal's flames and wield destructiveness to rival hers
and while Apollo lacks in other aspects, the other Exo-Mechs, especially Artemis, are there to back it up
TLDR: Ares is an all-rounder, Thanatos is a tanker, Apollo is a nuker, Artemis is a speeder
magic epoch
speeder
long bloom
s(peed)er
pulsar ocean
does draedon have only 1 set of exo mechs or he produces them
long bloom
just the one set
they're almost certainly comically expensive and time consuming to produce
cloud ibex
he could make more in theory but like
long bloom
why would he
split mortar
does draedon have only 1 set of exo mechs or he produces them
Just 1 set but if needed can start making a new set every few months
cloud ibex
they'd take a Lot of time and resources to rebuild yeah
long bloom
their purpose was to test our strength, and they fulfilled that purpose
he don't need more
gritty kraken
Got a mental image of the buzz lightyear gif but with ares
dark sundial
The moonlord we fight on calamity is a weaker version right? Or is his fullpower version
split mortar
The moonlord we fight on calamity is a weaker version right? Or is his fullpower...
Yes a weaker version
long bloom
like, coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb weaker
split mortar
Or stronger
Stronger then noxus
dark sundial
And weaker than xeroc?
split mortar
Yes
pulsar ocean
Just 1 set but if needed can start making a new set every few months
"yo bro i need some more exo prisms could you build more robots"
long bloom
he killed half of all dragons, as a frame of reference
dry agate
Is the title of Aquatic Scourge theme canon?!?! I mean, literally if you think about it, Aquatic Scourge IS an outcast of the sulphurous sea 😭 (this is a joke btw)
dark sundial
So our favorite squid was strong asf
split mortar
Zeratros the king of dragons (a casualty) is yharim level
cloud ibex
well he's still pretty busted
long bloom
true
gritty kraken
Calamity ml lore hit different after fighting eternity ml yesterday
dark sundial
Prime moonlord was galaxy level or higher?
split mortar
Imagine tearing someone in half and their response is to continue kicking your ass
cloud ibex
dude got eviscerated in multiple ways and sealed away for centuries, and the moment the fucker is freed he's instantly willing to throw hands and is stronger than the vast majority of things in the world
long bloom
oh no
split mortar
Prime moonlord was galaxy level or higher?
Xeroc aint even continent level
long bloom
a powerscaler
gritty kraken
Is Omni man in the chat rn
dark sundial
Xeroc aint even continent level
Astrum deus eat stars as breakfeast how xeroc is continent level
split mortar
Astrum deus eat stars as breakfeast how xeroc is continent level
Stars are clumps of mana
Fallen stars are literal
dark sundial
So not a literal star
cloud ibex
dude got eviscerated in multiple ways and sealed away for centuries, and the mom...
it's hard to compete with the top dog and himself in his prime but the ML you fight is absolutely nothing to scoff at
split mortar
So not a literal star
Its a literal star in calamity
long bloom
also the terraria sun is less hot than the brimstone crags lava
gritty kraken
there’s a space mana crystal and
Ball of light that is sun
pulsar ocean
is hekate stronger than scal
dark sundial
So calamity characters are like one piece level
split mortar
Scal is city level
pulsar ocean
So calamity characters are like one piece level
no i think luffy no diffs cal verse
wheat walrus
So not a literal star
tldr: "star" as a word in fiction is oftentimes referring not to an actual star, it's often times either used metaphorically or has a different definition in-universe
gentle ferry
no i think luffy no diffs cal verse
Probably
dark sundial
Cal verse is weak asf then
long bloom
a dev said once: "every calamity character would 100% instantly die from a nuke, except xeroc but he would still be fucked"
gentle ferry
Yharim: that boy ate the gomu gomu I need to hide or my ass is finished!
dark sundial
So mutant no diffs the cal verse?
long bloom
probably
pulsar ocean
Cal verse is weak asf then
xeroc (strongest) is continent level if highballing
wheat walrus
anyways most of post-moonlord ends up landing consistently on city level w stuff like storm creation (from weaver)
gritty kraken
It’s just cap at (or below)planet level it ain’t that bad
spare pier
So calamity characters are like one piece level
split mortar
So mutant no diffs the cal verse?
Idk where mutant scales and idk if theres much to really consider
gritty kraken
Not everyone gotta uh
Punch and break planet in half or something
pulsar ocean
define continent like continents can be different sizes
split mortar
https://tenor.com/view/valhalla-persona-anime-cute-smile-gif-17239820
The ghoul got alerted
wheat walrus
at least cal can join the "picking on weaker verses like ds/kny and aot" gang lol
dark sundial
But that do not make that much sense bcs vanilla terrarian can hold a unlimited bucket of lava easily
gentle ferry
But that do not make that much sense bcs vanilla terrarian can hold a unlimited ...
The terrarian is an anomaly
split mortar
But that do not make that much sense bcs vanilla terrarian can hold a unlimited ...
Game mechanics are often not canon yknow
gritty kraken
So mutant no diffs the cal verse?
mutant is stronger because the dlc says so 
long bloom
infinite lava bucket is magic
spare pier
The answer is pretty much yes, I think Yharim is comparable to Kaido in many ways, however due to One Piece's comically stretched proportions and that time Oda decided to make Chinjao split a fucking continent in half, yeah
cloud ibex
https://tenor.com/view/valhalla-persona-anime-cute-smile-gif-17239820
❗you have alerted the Witch ❗
split mortar
Mario can pick up endless coins and therefore infinitely strong is not a good logic
pulsar ocean
name 10 continents
gentle ferry
name 10 continents
Terraria
dark sundial
I tought that calamity bosses were like cosmic beings ultra powerful but they are weak asf
spare pier
¯_(ツ)_/¯
gentle ferry
I tought that calamity bosses were like cosmic beings ultra powerful but they ar...
I mean some are cosmic beings
gritty kraken
the amount of time inventory was used for power scaling is quite iffy
cloud ibex
i don't think being able to wipe away a continent is in any way "weak"
split mortar
Its not weak scal can end a country in a few days or weeks
gentle ferry
Doesn’t make you bust planets though
dark sundial
i don't think being able to wipe away a continent is in any way "weak"
If compared to other characters is weak asf
spare pier
Who gives a fuck
wheat walrus
define continent like continents can be different sizes
760 teratons of tnt energy (3,18e24 joules)
gritty kraken
I tought that calamity bosses were like cosmic beings ultra powerful but they ar...
What ark of the cosmos and DoG existence does to the scaling
dark sundial
I think that sukuna no diffs cal verse
cloud ibex
sure you can find a gorillion verses where every villain of the week could turn xeroc into a pretzel but like
eh
spare pier
"Ooooh no Calamity characters get bodied by Dragon Ball 😭" cool??????
gentle ferry
I think that sukuna no diffs cal verse
Sukuna gets beat by friendship bro
split mortar
I think that sukuna no diffs cal verse
Deus outscales most of jjk iirc
cloud ibex
i'll let the maestro speak on that one
spare pier
Not every universe needs to have planet busters walking around
dark sundial
Scal is stronger than deus and she is city level and sukuna is also city level
wheat walrus
I think that sukuna no diffs cal verse
sukuna is quite consistently city level that's more so comparable to calamity if anything :1
gentle ferry
Sukuna when he sees the terrarian with a dodge build: 😅
cloud ibex
he has spoken
spare pier
Scal is stronger than deus and she is city level and sukuna is also city level
Didn't know a city was 200 meters
split mortar
Scal is stronger than deus and she is city level and sukuna is also city level
City level means basically oneshotting a city not being able to drstroy it over time
iirc
wheat walrus
Scal is stronger than deus and she is city level and sukuna is also city level
small city/city level comes from storm weaver btw
dark sundial
So the bosses that keep making me mad are weak asf
spare pier
To wipe a city
wheat walrus
Didn't know a city was 200 meters
400* since 200 is the radius, not the diameter
dark sundial
Wrath of the gods xeroc is also continent level?
wheat walrus
that's not even xeroc
spare pier
Nameless is not Xeroc
split mortar
Wotg doesnt add xeroc
dark sundial
I tought that nameless was xeroc
cloud ibex
ND is like
pulsar ocean
I tought that nameless was xeroc
no
gentle ferry
Nameless deity doesn’t know nameless is a name
gritty kraken
So the bosses that keep making me mad are weak asf
destroying an entire civilization ain’t weak dawg
split mortar
I tought that nameless was xeroc
Xeroc has a name and nameless doesnt
wheat walrus
wotg is not canon to calamity and is frankly quite disconnected from it
cloud ibex
universal i guess? omnipotent maybe? 
pulsar ocean
nd is like boundless++++++++++
languid badge
character that uses the eye of xeroc as a part of its motif but technically isnt xeroc is a pretty cool character
spare pier
Anyways, here's a funny thought experiment
wheat walrus
Anyways, here's a funny thought experiment
no
spare pier
You say Cal characters are weak as fuck
dark sundial
destroying an entire civilization ain’t weak dawg
I mean in most games that i play a random ass enemy would no diff xeroc
spare pier
Look out of your window and tell me if you can see your entire city.
gentle ferry
Look out of your window and tell me if you can see your entire city.
Yeag
split mortar
Nameless was based on a old af version of xeroc and is very disconected from that
cloud ibex
is it
spare pier
No
split mortar
Xeroc can like oneshot mount everest
spare pier
wheat walrus
I mean for fiction standards city level is low
most of fiction doesn't even deal with superhuman powers
split mortar
Or something
gentle ferry
The most popular fiction is easily stronger than city level though
gritty kraken
I mean for fiction standards city level is low
What 16268 planet busting verse does to a person
dark sundial
Most of the fictions i know are way beyond city lvl
spare pier
The "most popular fiction" includes around 3 stories where characters are planet busters
dark sundial
So a saibaman no diff cal verse
split mortar
Yes and?
languid badge
why do people care whether goku can solo calamity or not anyway goku literally loses to a sheep its all relative who gives a fuck
dark sundial
I mean i still love cal is my favorite mod
spare pier
The "most popular fiction" includes around 3 stories where characters are planet...
Actually I can only think of one
wheat walrus
if we're talking about the fiction that is actually discussed in powerscaling convo, then calamity does go on the lower end
but that's a tiny fraction of the deal, and "fiction that is discussed in powerscaling convos" also varies since there's categories here, lower tier verses, mid tiers higher tiers, whatever goes on with qualitative scaling 🥀
dusk laurel
why do people care whether goku can solo calamity or not anyway goku literally l...
exactly
spare pier
Which is the Lovecraft Mythos
pulsar ocean
jojo is peak and no one there can bust planets
spare pier
Well...
dark sundial
jojo is peak and no one there can bust planets
Jojo characters have op hax
spare pier
Weather Report can destroy the atmosphere but that's it
dark sundial
D4c has barrier of infinite dimensions
spare pier
And Weather Report is Literally The Strongest Stand In The Entire Series in a matter of scale
languid badge
The "most popular fiction" includes around 3 stories where characters are planet...
I mean
pokemon is generally pretty high up there in terms of fictional universe popularity
pulsar ocean
D4c has barrier of infinite dimensions
yeah but that wont destroy a planet
languid badge
and there are at least like, 5 in that universe
split mortar
Pokemon lore is fucked
spare pier
I mean
pokemon is generally pretty high up there in terms of fictional universe ...
Pokémon has like, 4 Pokémon that can destroy a planet maybe
And I'm not going to count
The Creation Trio and Arceus
dark sundial
Oh
languid badge
no way
dark sundial
I was almost writing a whole essay
cosmic zenith
Mmmm
spare pier
And Arceus is the only one of the 4 who I think could actually destroy a planet
cosmic zenith
Arse Vultures
spare pier
Maybe Giratina
pulsar ocean
if i catch arceus with a master ball am i multiversal
dark sundial
And Arceus is the only one of the 4 who I think could actually destroy a planet
Wtf? The creation trio is the representation of time, space and antimatter
languid badge
And Arceus is the only one of the 4 who I think could actually destroy a planet
I mean cyrus is pretty confident that either of the 2 he summons are capable of remaking the entire world
split mortar
Like give yharim a few minutes (maybe not even that) and basically any city irl is gone
spare pier
Just because I can control time and space doesn't mean I can destroy a planet
split mortar
Like give yharim a few minutes (maybe not even that) and basically any city irl ...
Probably
languid badge
that doesn mean he's right but still
dark sundial
Palkia its space basicaly
split mortar
They are aware
dark sundial
So he has control over the whole concept of space
spare pier
I mean cyrus is pretty confident that either of the 2 he summons are capable of ...
Yeah, but that can literally mean 500 things 
spare pier
Your logic makes literally no sense
gentle ferry
jojo is peak and no one there can bust planets
No but city busters easily exist
dark sundial
They are cosmic deities
spare pier
"He can control space so he can destroy a galaxy!!!"
wheat walrus
anyways I think the point is that most of fiction isn't very "powerscaley", if that's the right term, you don't get scaling material from most
calamity does have some of it but in terms of general tier, it's more akin to, for lack of better comparison, some new gen animes (thinking of stuff like jjk, csm, mha, they got scaling stuff but they don't get to straight up busting planets)
dark sundial
So arceus is also planet level for you? The creator of the entire pokemon verse
languid badge
I am hearing the "stupid argument is starting" alarm
spare pier
They are cosmic deities
Cthulhu gets rammed by a fucking boat and dies
languid badge
Cthulhu gets rammed by a fucking boat and dies
I am fairly certain he does not die
spare pier
Like, that's literally a thing that happens in the Lovecraft Mythos
spare pier
He still gets rammed by a boat
languid badge
What the fuck Lovecraft
product of the time
when boats are among the strongest thing you have in that age, being able to take being rammed head on by one is an impressive feat
dark sundial
The arceus we catch is just a very small fraction of arceus power
wheat walrus
And Arceus is the only one of the 4 who I think could actually destroy a planet
ok ok, bad take tho
deoxys' grand delta meteor is first stated to be able to destroy earth if impacting, calculations (at least based on the manga, I remember) also further prove this, necrozma absorbs the light of an entire dimension, no matter how you slice it this is absurd amounts of energy far beyond planet level; I'd argue the creation trio would be way past these
outer cargo
I don't see how Palkia controlling the actual essence of space would not make it capable of destroying a planet
spare pier
Anyways
pulsar ocean
Cthulhu gets rammed by a fucking boat and dies
yeah i always wandered what the fuck was that
a cosmic diety everyone fears gets pierced by a fucking boat and goes into a coma
dark sundial
ok ok, bad take tho
deoxys' grand delta meteor is first stated to be able to de...
Anyone of the creation trio would demolish necrozma
They are the top dogs of pokemon
Just below arceus
languid badge
ok ok, bad take tho
deoxys' grand delta meteor is first stated to be able to de...
ok but thats the meteors feat not deoxys's 
spare pier
You can't be "just below" infinity but ok
wheat walrus
Anyways
bad take (1) tbh, the nuke's full energy sure as hell did not go through the roach
wheat walrus
ok but thats the meteors feat not deoxys's <:Trollface:865290174123212830>
and rayquaza destroyed that meteor as it was falling on the planet, with the mass and speed to do what it do
dark sundial
Gardevoir can create blackholes
wheat walrus
and rayquaza destroyed that meteor as it was falling on the planet, with the mas...
still would scale to ray
spare pier
This discussion is dumb and I do not want to continue it because powerscaling is absolutely miserable when taken like this
dark sundial
The weather trio for example is planetary level
languid badge
can we stop talking about pokemon this is stupid
cosmic zenith
To be fair I think the statement that they represent and govern space and time respectively is decent grounding for saying they can achieve cosmic feats
But likewise, then you have to wonder if that is intentional, fitting of the universe contextualizing it, and/or an exaggeration
gentle ferry
This discussion is dumb and I do not want to continue it because powerscaling is...
Our conversation powerscales your mind
languid badge
ok
wheat walrus
this image is my most disliked thing about power scaling
it's a silly meme that I dislike cause it's just simplifying stuff for the sake of being annoying over a hobby
dark sundial
To be fair I think the statement that they represent and govern space and time r...
Gardevoir a random ass pokemon can create blackholes
split mortar
Ok but how big are those black holes
cosmic zenith
That is definitely exaggeration
pulsar ocean
Gardevoir a random ass pokemon can create blackholes
ok how long do the black holes last
dark sundial
In gardevoir dex entry ir says that she can create blackholes to defend herself
split mortar
How strong and how long do they last
dark sundial
Its gardevoir description
spare pier
How strong and how long do they last
Literally just not specified whatsoever
languid badge
it's a silly meme that I dislike cause it's just simplifying stuff for the sake ...
I mean you call it a simplification but at the same time I've definitely seen logic that was only a bit removed from this
in general I think scaling based on what something has beaten is stupid unless they beat them in a contest of what they're actually being scaled on
split mortar
A black hole with the mass of a rock aint gonna do shit or mean shit
wheat walrus
I mean you call it a simplification but at the same time I've definitely seen lo...
no shit cause the community tends to fucking suck
no sugarcoating here though
languid badge
true!
wheat walrus
the people who are annoying about powerscaling
and the people who are annoying against it
are both annoying
equally
languid badge
fair
split mortar
Annoying people suck
languid badge
no way
dark sundial
A black hole with the mass of a rock aint gonna do shit or mean shit
A black hole with the size of a stone has the mass of a small planet
cloud ibex
hammed Burger
split mortar
A black hole with the size of a stone has the mass of a small planet
I said mass of a rock not size of a rock
wheat walrus
annoying powerscalers suck, annoying "antiscalers" who take those annoying powerscalers as example for the entire hobby being like that also suck
dark sundial
Even after knowing that the calamity verse is weak asf i still love the mod
Calamity has a place in my heart
wheat walrus
annoying powerscalers suck, annoying "antiscalers" who take those annoying power...
of all the reasons for why I kinda laid back on powerscaling stuff more actively and publicly, this is an overarching part of it
split mortar
Well yeah its strength doesnt matter
wheat walrus
you either get the toxicity from more extreme scalers or from the allergic
dark sundial
Well yeah its strength doesnt matter
Im just surprised actualy
As i said knowing that the devourer of gods is city lvl
Is funny
languid badge
I mean you really think about it
dog really is just "big worm"
split mortar
Well yeah its strength doesnt matter
Infact its lore wouldnt make sense if multiple of the people could do stuff like destroy a planet within a reasonable amount of time
pulsar ocean
do things dissapear if they go in DoG's tummy or does he have like a whole digestive track
split mortar
We dunno
dark sundial
Infact its lore wouldnt make sense if multiple of the people could do stuff like...
Normaly dragons, gods etc. In fiction can wipe planets at least
split mortar
Normaly dragons, gods etc. In fiction can wipe planets at least
Theres many characters who if they could they would have done so
languid badge
gods maybe
split mortar
Theres many characters who if they could they would have done so
In cal
languid badge
but dragons definitely no
pulsar ocean
idk what dragons u've seen but the dragons in fiction ive seen are most of the time city level
split mortar
Providence
Moonlord
Noxus
DoG
spare pier
Dragons usually stick to being able to destroy massive kingdoms overnight
dark sundial
idk what dragons u've seen but the dragons in fiction ive seen are most of the t...
Most dragons in anime
split mortar
Anime isnt all fiction
pulsar ocean
ive seen skyrim dragons
split mortar
Anime is one genre
spare pier
I don't know a single thing you could be referring to 😭
dark sundial
I mean tensura true dragons can wipe universes
pulsar ocean
tensura is ass
dark sundial
Tensura is peak
languid badge
even stuff like tiamat who is litterally a dragon god I dont think could destroy a planet
split mortar
Myths, stories, games
All that are fiction aswell
gentle ferry
Anime isnt all fiction
Yes it is
spare pier
Isekai Número 54 where the scaling goes to unreasonable degrees
pulsar ocean
isekai writers when they have to write plot and not aura farming/overpowered characters/girls for the mc's harem
spare pier
So true!
My friend likes Tensura though, and it does look like above average for your run of the mill Isekai
dark sundial
I love overlord and overlord is weak for isekai standards but ainz can literaly slice reality
languid badge
they should make an isekai where someone in like south korea wakes up one day in like, canada or smth
dark sundial
So my D&D character would wipe xeroc its funny
languid badge
what fucking dnd characters are you making
dark sundial
what fucking dnd characters are you making
I am playing a dragon ball inspired D&D campaign
Its fun
So ye my D&D character would wipe xeroc
So cal bosses are on the weaker end of modded bosses lore wise
split mortar
Idk
dark sundial
But gameplay wise they are busted asf
dark sundial
Infernum DoG made me give up my infernum playtrough
languid badge
most other mods dont really like, give a fuck about power scaling last I checked
split mortar
Like souls
split mortar
most other mods dont really like, give a fuck about power scaling last I checked
Most dont have major lore focus
dark sundial
But most gost cosmic beings
split mortar
What was that one
Its uhhh
The one with the funny death whale
dark sundial
Thorium got the literal ragnarok
languid badge
Most dont have major lore focus
I mean theres like redemption but like
idk what redemption even really has for powerscaling
split mortar
But most gost cosmic beings
So does calamity, having a cosmic origin means nothing
pulsar ocean
I love overlord and overlord is weak for isekai standards but ainz can literaly ...
Overlord is like one of the only isekais I like
ionic harness
Its uhhh
The one with the funny death whale
Yes yes yes. The one with the other slime gos too, right?
split mortar
Yeah
languid badge
like you have the demigod of light but like
dark sundial
I mean theres like redemption but like
idk what redemption even really has for p...
Nubuleus is a angel
So ye
split mortar
Nubuleus is a angel
And?
pulsar ocean
What was that one
Homeward journey
languid badge
angels dont inherently have all that much power
split mortar
Titles and stuff just
Dont inherently mean power
spare pier
WE GOT BIBLE POWERSCALING HERE 🔥
dark sundial
Ye XD
split mortar
If a fiction wanted they could make the god of death just lose to a tank
spare pier
Remember guys, V1 from ULTRAKILL is actually Glupshittoversal because he beat an angel
split mortar
WE GOT BIBLE POWERSCALING HERE 🔥
Not the first time
languid badge
WE GOT BIBLE POWERSCALING HERE 🔥
must've been a haiku
pulsar ocean
I no diffed Gabriel in ultrakill so angels must scale low
analog robin
languid badge
it has been less than an hour since this was posted
analog robin
Damn
dark sundial
I just finished dmc 4 yesterday and a random ass enemy from dmc 4 would no diff cal verse
pulsar ocean
Dmc5 is so peak I love doing combos with Vergil
dark sundial
My favorite in dmc 5 is nero
pulsar ocean
I love it when u play Vergil u can S style and the chorus kicks in
dark sundial
Also he is the hardest character
analog robin
I played the whole series except 2 because I think I went a little mad in the dungeon hell of SMT Nocturne
dark sundial
V: ez mode
Nero: hard mode
Dante: medium mode
Vergil: Slay all mode
Nero combos are hard but they are cool asf
dark sundial
I played the whole series except 2 because I think I went a little mad in the du...
Dmc 2 is ass
Worst game of the franchise
analog robin
That seems to be the consensus
dark sundial
In dmc 2 all weapons are weak asf except for dante pistols
For some reason
In other dmc games guns are just combo extenders
dire sluice
lore
dire sluice
I didn't say anything
pulsar ocean
Loreous
dire sluice
how bout that lore eh
split mortar
dire sluice
he said something tho
ionic harness
Yharim has buns of steel so
split mortar
Im pretty sure john average solos xeroc or something in dmc
pulsar ocean
Fake news
dire sluice
idk much about dmc
languid badge
enough powerscaling arguments on non calamity caracters
welcome to my ted talk on why aureus could solo cultist
pulsar ocean
V gets eaten alive by dog
dire sluice
I would finish 5 tho
wheat walrus
Dragons usually stick to being able to destroy massive kingdoms overnight
Fatass
split mortar
Thats not fatalis
wheat walrus
Actually wipes you off the world and its eons with the kalpa conflagration that transcends nature and highlights chaos and mankind's avarice