isnt pbg optional
#lore-discussion
lethal mirage
lethal mirage
lost to an optional boss.......
split mortar
lost to an optional boss.......
Wall of flesh is optional!
split mortar
Calamity adds ways
jaunty marsh
Wait I’m slow who is pbg
split mortar
Wait I’m slow who is pbg
Plague bee goliath
jaunty marsh
Ah
lethal mirage
please inform me i must know
lunar thorn
Roxcalibur
split mortar
Imo dogs hardest
And
Idfk why
lethal mirage
is there a low%
split mortar
is there a low%
Yes and it doesnt have wof skipped
split mortar
Because skipping wof causes you to fight more bosses
jaunty marsh
Golem
lunar thorn
Shimmer Roxcalibur i think an use its materials that are post wall?
robust osprey
calclone
languid badge
please inform me i must know
- Shimmer roxcalibur
- kill destroyer
- get astral solution from steampunker
- extractinate astral silt to get mythril for anvil
robust osprey
exos
languid badge
That’s the starting point
languid badge
You don’t
robust osprey
roxc is like an enchanted sword
languid badge
You kill cultist
split mortar
how kill moonlord without lunatic cultist
You still have to iirc
robust osprey
roxc is like an enchanted sword
except once per world
lunar thorn
kill Yharon before ML
robust osprey
its like 9 bosses right?
split mortar
Yes
lethal mirage
9 is crazy
split mortar
Esp when theres like over 40 bosses
lunar thorn
low% hc no-hit run 
robust osprey
true melee
lethal mirage
classless
robust osprey
wait a moment that gave me an idea true melee low%
split mortar
No jumping
languid badge
true melee
At that point just play a fucking slot machine
lunar thorn
no input
split mortar
Calamity infernum low% classless keyboardless
lethal mirage
At that point just play a fucking slot machine
yippee gambling
lunar thorn
no cpu
jaunty marsh
Forgot to add blindfolded and deaf
lunar thorn
dancepad
hoary berry
Calamity infernum low% classless keyboardless
technically does not ban 
so i approve
lethal mirage
what is that....
hoary berry
slagsplitter pauldron
lunar thorn
helps not die when dashing
hoary berry
lethal mirage
woa
hoary berry
god’s greatest gift to humanity
lunar thorn
didn't use it before, it good?
jaunty marsh
Chalice of the blood god my beloved
lethal mirage
blob god
hoary berry
didn't use it before, it good?
honestly i haven’t used it outside of speedkilling in months so i couldn’t tell you how viable it is with a normal play style 
languid badge
honestly i haven’t used it outside of speedkilling in months so i couldn’t tell ...
It’s borderline overpowered
lethal mirage
flairgun
hoary berry
i’m still sad that habble patched it getting stealth bonuses in FDLC (and simultaneously very pleased by that patch)
split mortar
No more 1 second aquatic scourge kills
languid badge
DLC has some weird balance changes I won’t lie
split mortar
i’m still sad that habble patched it getting stealth bonuses in FDLC (and simult...
Its weird seeing your name be normal…
lunar thorn
some chees has to stay for fun
split mortar
Im too used to like
Gay car or whatever you pick randomly
jaunty marsh
Y’all sleeping on CoBC + radiance + the camper + Silva immunity auric armor
hoary berry
Its weird seeing your name be normal…
should i change my base display name to Synchrotron of Flesh or something
lethal mirage
Im too used to like
Gay car or whatever you pick randomly
gay car
cloud ibex
lore discussion
languid badge
DLC has some weird balance changes I won’t lie
I think I saw like 6 total changes to things that weren’t endgame weapons and the only one that would affect more than like 5% of players is the sponge nerf
lethal mirage
lore discussion
split mortar
Loring chat
jaunty marsh
Lore discussion or sm idk
lunar thorn
what CoBC (in lore)
split mortar
split mortar
what CoBC (in lore)
What is cobc?
jaunty marsh
what CoBC (in lore)
Chalice of the blood god
lethal mirage
loring chat more like boring chat
jaunty marsh
Accessory
lunar thorn
ah
split mortar
Chalice of the blood god
Ahhh that
Probably the chalice of the blood god
Or some artifact using its power
That we make idk
lunar thorn
Yharim getting mad seeing Terrarian having that accessory equipped
jaunty marsh
Chalice is actually auric soul!!???
split mortar
Gods dont have auric souls
lethal mirage
they ate the soul
lethal mirage
but its like when eat burger
jaunty marsh
Absorbed soul to go to godhood
split mortar
Absorbed soul to go to godhood
Yes
Doesnt mean its auric anymore
jaunty marsh
Now I want burbur
lethal mirage
burber...
split mortar
A gods soul is a unstable fucking mess thats neither normal or auric
jaunty marsh
Huh interesting
lunar thorn
can a person consume a gods soul to get freaky powers if they don't die?
split mortar
If you do that you will suffer
lethal mirage
what does soul taste like
split mortar
A god gets a slight personality change due to soul fusion and thats just 1 soul
lethal mirage
soul like hollow knight
jaunty marsh
Wait I got a question
split mortar
A god gets a slight personality change due to soul fusion and thats just 1 soul
Absorbing a god means absorbing effectively 2
split mortar
No you aint a god
jaunty marsh
But yharon soul still exists bc he’s the dragon of rebirth
And you then
Absorb it after he’s rebirthed
Does it still make you god
gentle ferry
No that’s not true
jaunty marsh
Or is the energy gone
lunar thorn
no you eat chicken nuggets
lethal mirage
Absorbing a god means absorbing effectively 2
absorbance squared
lethal mirage
no you eat chicken nuggets
yummys
split mortar
Absorb it after he’s rebirthed
You cant do that, you have to do it while theyre in the inbetween phase of dead and reborn
cloud ibex
there's, like, three people alive who know the ascension ritual by the time you kill yharon and none of them would tell you
split mortar
Yharons soul is especially fucking annoying to ascend with
jaunty marsh
Ah ok
jaunty marsh
Yharons soul is especially fucking annoying to ascend with
Yea I would imagine
split mortar
Yharons soul is especially fucking annoying to ascend with
Cause it just fucking blips to the aerie
And forms an egg
gentle ferry
there's, like, three people alive who know the ascension ritual by the time you ...
What if we ask really nicely
lunar thorn
If Yharim consumed Yharon's soul, would he beable to be reborn too?
jaunty marsh
Imagine ur an usurper at the end of the draconian era, get the soul, mid absorption it just leaves and becomes an egg
lethal mirage
god king
gentle ferry
If Yharim consumed Yharon's soul, would he beable to be reborn too?
Dick move to eat your pet
split mortar
What if we ask really nicely
Good luck getting it from
Silva (got yharimed)
Yharim (its yharim)
Xeroc
lethal mirage
yharim would have too much aura if he consumed yharons soul
cloud ibex
If Yharim consumed Yharon's soul, would he beable to be reborn too?
maybe?
split mortar
Dick move to eat your pet
They arent a pet
cloud ibex
hard to say for sure
tall delta
yeah cuz domains changes and all that
lethal mirage
they are like brothers
split mortar
yharim would have too much aura if he consumed yharons soul
Yharim would likely be weaker if they became god king then god seeker
split mortar
Yharon, pet of Yharim
No
lethal mirage
Yharim would likely be weaker if they became god king then god seeker
damn
cloud ibex
would be weird to call a sapient creature who's thousands of years older than you your pet
split mortar
Yharon is very likely smarter
split mortar
would be weird to call a sapient creature who's thousands of years older than yo...
^
lethal mirage
yharim is yharons pet
lunar thorn
Xeroc might, he would't have a reason too, but he wouldn't be against it either like Yharim would, Xeroc might if you asked as a favor for killing Noxus
gentle ferry
would be weird to call a sapient creature who's thousands of years older than yo...
We have pet turtles
pliant ruin
yharim is yharons pet
unironically it's still not true but it's closer to true than the opposite
yharon is older and probably smarter than yharim is
split mortar
Xeroc might, he would't have a reason too, but he wouldn't be against it either ...
Yharon was xerocs old friend and also likely doesnt need help in a fight against noxus
jaunty marsh
Wait yk what would be really cool
If like
When yharim gets added eventually
He absorbs yharons soul for his desperation phase
tall delta
he will not do that
jaunty marsh
I’ve got a mod idea hold up
split mortar
He absorbs yharons soul for his desperation phase
Yharim would rather die
jaunty marsh
Brb
pliant ruin
i doubt xeroc would tell you how to absorb the soul of yharon both because yharon was his friend and also because like, i imagine xeroc probably feels guilt for the entire dragon extinction thing as is, he wouldn't want to perpetuate it
lunar thorn
can the soul consuming ritual be done on anything else that's not a dragon?
pliant ruin
also yeah that'd be the most out of characrer thing ever and would single handedly ruin the mod's entire narrative
split mortar
can the soul consuming ritual be done on anything else that's not a dragon?
We dunno
cloud ibex
Yharim would rather die
yharim would rather kill himself, specifically
lethal mirage
He absorbs yharons soul for his desperation phase
eat the mario mushroom
split mortar
yharim would rather kill himself, specifically
^
lethal mirage
can the soul consuming ritual be done on anything else that's not a dragon?
i wan to eat zombies soul
om nom nom
split mortar
Was just iffy on if i could say it like that
pliant ruin
it's the sort of thing that would be superficially cool purely based on the wow factor but once you stop to think about it it sorta ruins everything else and makes the mod's story lose its meaning
cloud ibex
can the soul consuming ritual be done on anything else that's not a dragon?
we don't know but presumably not
lunar thorn
I'd want to consume Noxus's soul
cloud ibex
if you could there'd probably be people doing it already
limpid saddle
what do you guys think Draedon was up to during Embers
lethal mirage
who is noxus i havent gotten that far
cloud ibex
Was just iffy on if i could say it like that
dw lore discussion is probably like
languid badge
The creature
tall delta
distortion guy
lethal mirage
the craeture
split mortar
Like imo if yharim was to consume yharons soul
Itd be in a addon which has a alt timeline where yharim took the godking title
limpid saddle
who is noxus i havent gotten that far
basically lord of the distortion
cloud ibex
the most frequently flagged channel in terms of suspicious words or phrases already
limpid saddle
he controls the distortion hivemind & commands DoG
split mortar
the most frequently flagged channel in terms of suspicious words or phrases alre...
LMAO
lethal mirage
he controls the distortion hivemind & commands DoG
dog dad
unborn wind
what do you guys think Draedon was up to during Embers
what is embers
mighty zenith
short story by cei about what if provi killed us
split mortar
who is noxus i havent gotten that far
Boss of dog (maybe)
Threat to the world
Creator of ceaseless (maybe)
mighty zenith
its a good read, go check it out
limpid saddle
what is embers
a short hypothetical story written by Cei, the lead writer, where Providence succeded in burning everything
lethal mirage
elden ring reference
unborn wind
where can i read.............
lethal mirage
like frenzy flame
cloud ibex
short story by cei about what if provi killed us
it was more like what if we lost to ML wasn't it
split mortar
limpid saddle
like frenzy flame
not really
mighty zenith
oh yea right
unborn wind
tysm
split mortar
A story from cei on what if provi won (cei is a lore dev)
cloud ibex
like frenzy flame
prov is already kinda frenzied flame esque i think
split mortar
cloud ibex
"you can't feel suffering anymore if you're literally a pile of ashes on the ground" typa deal
split mortar
I like the headcanon that profaned flame is painless
unborn wind
are there other stories from the lore writers like this
split mortar
Cause yeah
cloud ibex
would make sense
split mortar
are there other stories from the lore writers like this
Iirc no but theres multiple planned
limpid saddle
well i think the three fingers & the flame of frenzy have more lofty goals given they wish to reunify the Greater Will by re-unifying all living things in ashes
lunar thorn
The Cal maid outfit timeline
cloud ibex
☹️
split mortar
Iirc no but theres multiple planned
Currents (statis and braelor)
Atoms (draedon)
Names (DoG)
Endings (Xeroc at the end of existence)
Theres one for if yharon and yharim won but i forgor name
And prob another idk i feel i forgor more
limpid saddle
Currents (statis and braelor)
Atoms (draedon)
Names (DoG)
Endings (Xeroc at the ...
man im certainly intrigued by that last one
jaunty marsh
2 questions
lunar thorn
Waiting Tables (Cal maid)
unborn wind
Currents (statis and braelor)
Atoms (draedon)
Names (DoG)
Endings (Xeroc at the ...
DRAEDON STORY?
I WILL BE THERE.
limpid saddle
it'd be fascinating to see the results of a world where Xeroc lay slain by Yharon & Yharim
pliant ruin
embers is so cool. providence goes through the fionna and cake lich depression arc
mighty zenith
Waiting Tables (Cal maid)
i think we're gonna have to kill this guy leon
pliant ruin
"ok i killed everything. now what."
cloud ibex
you got it boss
dusk laurel
commence the boiling
cloud ibex
i will allow cheese to join in
pliant ruin
yippe
split mortar
Can i join in on beating this person
mighty zenith
no
jaunty marsh
Is there a way to fuse regular souls to match the power of a god and/or auric soul, even if it means fusing literally thousands (like what happened with goozma)
split mortar
With sticks
pliant ruin
Is there a way to fuse regular souls to match the power of a god and/or auric so...
polterghast
limpid saddle
Is there a way to fuse regular souls to match the power of a god and/or auric so...
goozma aint real my friend
split mortar
Is there a way to fuse regular souls to match the power of a god and/or auric so...
Polterghast is a thing
jaunty marsh
Ah
cloud ibex
yea you have successfully invented polterghast
jaunty marsh
Ok but
limpid saddle
& melding souls cant create a domain like the auric souls possess
mighty zenith
okay
lunar thorn
and regular mechs have lot of souls pushed into machines
limpid saddle
& melding souls cant create a domain like the auric souls possess
So no not really
jaunty marsh
Neglected his prisoners
mighty zenith
but
it happening on accident
jaunty marsh
I meant on purpose
mighty zenith
means it can be done on purpose
lethal mirage
this is awesome
cloud ibex
would the result really have been much different if it was on purpose
lethal mirage
providence depression arc
limpid saddle
and regular mechs have lot of souls pushed into machines
i thought you were being put to death?
cloud ibex
they are
jaunty marsh
would the result really have been much different if it was on purpose
Well I mean
mighty zenith
it takes a minute
stuck hemlock
guys, is terminus cannonicaly yharim?
mighty zenith
we gotta charge up solar beam first
pliant ruin
but in a way wehn you think about it
limpid saddle
guys, is terminus cannonicaly yharim?
no
jaunty marsh
What if you put them all into the soul of someone still living?
pliant ruin
guys, is terminus cannonicaly yharim?
no its xeroc
mighty zenith
guys, is terminus cannonicaly yharim?
no, the person talking is xeroc
split mortar
guys, is terminus cannonicaly yharim?
No terminus is a rock we find in the abyss
jaunty marsh
And not just a bunch of dead ppl
stuck hemlock
yea sorry
limpid saddle
When the mod is done
stuck hemlock
thanks
limpid saddle
When the mod is done
he will be added
lunar thorn
Why does Terminus exist?
split mortar
will we get to fight yharon tho?
We fight yharon
And if you mean yharim
Yes, they just intend on updating everything else for general higher quality
split mortar
Why does Terminus exist?
We dunno
limpid saddle
Why does Terminus exist?
its a rock xeroc owned
pliant ruin
mech bosses are basically mini polterghasts if you think about it
-several souls fused together in a amalgamation
-protected by an outer physical body that acts as a "shell" (polterghast's flesh body, mech's bosses... mechs)
limpid saddle
may or may not be needed for perfect ascensions
jaunty marsh
I mean yea true
lethal mirage
mech bosses are *basically* mini polterghasts if you think about it
-several sou...
true
split mortar
mech bosses are *basically* mini polterghasts if you think about it
-several sou...
Plantera also like that
lethal mirage
waitt
split mortar
Plantera also like that
And also fight similar
lethal mirage
are the mech bosses just five night freddy
pliant ruin
they fight similar because polter sucks
lethal mirage
soul in metal
pliant ruin
ignore that part
dusk laurel
And also fight similar
💥
limpid saddle
are the mech bosses just five night freddy
no they're war-criminals
pliant ruin
yeah the mech bosses are just five night freddy
languid badge
they fight similar because polter sucks
Polter when it gasts
pliant ruin
sure they're war criminals but they're also five night freddy
split mortar
soul in metal
Yes but instead of child its 500 war criminals
lethal mirage
and draedon is william afton
lethal mirage
Yes but instead of child its 500 war criminals
same thing
limpid saddle
and draedon is william afton
draedon is henry emily or whoever the fuck
split mortar
Chat powerscale this
1 child = five hundred war criminals
limpid saddle
afton is yharim
lethal mirage
i really like ravager and their lore
languid badge
Chat powerscale this
1 child = five hundred war criminals
Elaborate
limpid saddle
Chat powerscale this
1 child = five hundred war criminals
its a hard fight but war criminals win
lethal mirage
i cant wait for rework
limpid saddle
i really like ravager and their lore
they have 3 lines
split mortar
they have 3 lines
Dont mean it aint cool
limpid saddle
hopefully that'll change but you knoq
lethal mirage
Chat powerscale this
1 child = five hundred war criminals
499 war criminals defeated
the last 1
languid badge
Powerscale the child
Do we know anything about this child?
dusk laurel
hopefully that'll change but you knoq
that is definitely happening
lunar thorn
Chat Powerscaling: Yharim's gorgeus red hair is red. Red is next to orangish on color wheel. Must mean Yharim and Prov are the same strength.
dusk laurel
its like
split mortar
same thing
Pluh
dusk laurel
guaranteed
lethal mirage
that is definitely happening
yipppee
he reminds me of carnage
big gloopy evil guy
jaunty marsh
If the endgame terrarian after boss rush were to fight yharim who wins
dusk laurel
the dragon ravager took the auric soul of was the dragon of death
lethal mirage
thats so tough
split mortar
If the endgame terrarian after boss rush were to fight yharim who wins
Boss rush will likely be post yharim
dusk laurel
aka depressed dragon
split mortar
Boss rush will likely be post yharim
In intended progression
lethal mirage
dragon of death really died
limpid saddle
If the endgame terrarian after boss rush were to fight yharim who wins
terrarian they are literally impossible to scale because 'tHe TerrArian is YoU'
lethal mirage
aka depressed dragon
aw
swift ferry
Chat Powerscaling: Yharim's gorgeus red hair is red. Red is next to orangish on ...
Sadly his gorgeous locks of hair are naught but a plume on his helmet. The secret about yharim? He's BALD
pliant ruin
ravager is arguably a pretty tragic character
split mortar
dragon of death really died
So did dragon of life
lunar thorn
@swift ferry 
languid badge
Powerscale the child
You never specified the kind of child, it’s a juvenile polar bear, easy
lethal mirage
yharon even dies multiple times
split mortar
You never specified the kind of child, it’s a juvenile polar bear, easy
Its a child from freddy five night
jaunty marsh
Ok but for the sake of clarity knowing that xeroc controls current boss rush and you beat his challenge
Let’s say
Terrarian is slightly less power
Than xeroc
split mortar
Than xeroc
Oh hell nah
languid badge
Its a child from freddy five night
500 war criminals solo that im afraid
cloud ibex
Terrarian is slightly less power
"slightly"
split mortar
Than xeroc
That thing in the sky is 1 single spell sigil from xeroc
dusk laurel
aka depressed dragon
bro became unemployed 💔
split mortar
Xeroc is centuries old and grows in power faster then a super intelligent ai can
jaunty marsh
Hiding and putting his power into terminus
split mortar
Hiding and putting his power into terminus
Nah terminus lost its purpose, xeroc just notices someone grabbed it and makes boss rush on the fly
jaunty marsh
Just made that shit up for funsies
lunar thorn
Why does Xeroc thro supped up bosses at someone for touching his rock?
split mortar
Why does Xeroc thro supped up bosses at someone for touching his rock?
Its a test to see if we are strong enough
tall delta
the only way to reach xeroc level is becoming a godz
jaunty marsh
If xeroc is THIS strong, how strong was zeratros?
lunar thorn
Strong enough for what? help him find Noxus?
split mortar
If xeroc is THIS strong, how strong was zeratros?
Yharim
jaunty marsh
And also how come other gods like providence don’t even come CLOSE to touching xeroc?
tall delta
because
tall delta
gods didnt train lol
jaunty marsh
Ah ok
languid badge
ok hear me out
the pbg vs storm weaver matchup is fairly even
split mortar
And also how come other gods like providence don’t even come CLOSE to touching x...
Xeroc had everything for them to be this strong
Strongest human
Ascended using strongest dragon
Perfect ascension
Had the strongest domain
Been training for centuries
tall delta
xeroc was the only guy with the i wanna get stronger mentality which i find weird
and that
yeah
split mortar
Xeroc had everything for them to be this strong
Strongest human
Ascended using ...
Like the phrase “unmatched power of the sun” is literal
languid badge
ok hear me out
the pbg vs storm weaver matchup is fairly even
on one hand, yeah, weaver is faster, and stronger, and has lightning, but
split mortar
Xeroc has the power of the sun and itd take 40 yharims with perfect cordination to get them to flee (according to cei)
viscid totem
who up umatching they power of the sun
dusk laurel
GLORP
jaunty marsh
Me if I was the solar fusion or something like that idk
languid badge
weavers carapace likely wouldnt be a concern since pbg could feasably recognize the weak point
more importantly though, is the fact that weaver has been shown to possess no special resistances and in fact a weakness to diseases, such as the plague
cloud ibex
xeroc was the only guy with the i wanna get stronger mentality which i find weir...
not the only one, but they were the only god to take the grindset as seriously as they did
split mortar
Me if I was the solar fusion or something like that idk
Fun fact
Stars and the sun are different in cal
languid badge
nvm weaver isnt weak to sickness we're cooked
pliant ruin
There is no statement saying other gods didn't train
lunar thorn
Perfect, Draedon needs to clone 40 Yharims and put them in 40 factor made auric suits boosed by exo stuff using microbot virus from the infected jungle to cordinate them
cineme
*a
jaunty marsh
Fun fact
Stars and the sun are different in cal
Is it like
pliant ruin
Xeroc is stronger for way more reasons than just training
split mortar
Perfect, Draedon needs to clone 40 Yharims and put them in 40 factor made auric ...
By the time draedon does that xeroc would have grown
viscid totem
who would win every single pokemon or 40 yharim clones
jaunty marsh
Cosmolite vs profaned essence
languid badge
nvm weaver isnt weak to sickness we're cooked
ok the matchup is probably more like 60-40 weaver
but still
jaunty marsh
Or physically they’re different
pliant ruin
He had a perfect ascencion, he consumed the strongest auric soul, and he trained for centuries
split mortar
Is it like
Stars are clumps of mana
The sun is whatever it is (not a irl stat tho)
pliant ruin
If providence trained that would not magically make her as strong as xeroc
idk where the idea other gods didn't train come from
viscid totem
so xeroc grindset
dusk laurel
i doubt shakidou and providence didnt train
lethal mirage
is xeroc the sun
pliant ruin
some did, some didn't
split mortar
is xeroc the sun
No
cloud ibex
There is no statement saying other gods didn't train
keyword "most"
lunar thorn
How would Prov train? she got no arms or lets
lethal mirage
How would Prov train? she got no arms or lets
firebal
jaunty marsh
Burn everything
split mortar
But they did make the sun have vastly lower output
pliant ruin
Provi is one i don't think trained
jaunty marsh
But this time burn a lot stronnger
pliant ruin
frieza type shi
lethal mirage
i love her
languid badge
no
jaunty marsh
Diety
split mortar
Is empress of light a god?
They serve gods but idk if they are one
lunar thorn
Would training just be trying to shoot a fireball harder and hotter by thinking about it more intensly?
jaunty marsh
Just like
split mortar
Deity is a synonym of god iirc
lethal mirage
Deity is a synonym of god iirc
it is
split mortar
Like the elementals
We have no confirmation their souls are different
jaunty marsh
Or the thing he was before
jaunty marsh
We have no confirmation their souls are different
Still though
lethal mirage
monlord
jaunty marsh
Absurdly powerful
split mortar
Deity is a synonym of god i see no reason thatd change in calamity
pliant ruin
deity is a synonym of god yeah
jaunty marsh
Ok fine what about
dusk laurel
doesnt it just mean god
jaunty marsh
Idk
lethal mirage
Deity is a synonym of god i see no reason thatd change in calamity
i see them used differently in other contexts
but idk
jaunty marsh
Idk what to call them I can’t name
split mortar
Deity is more genderless iirc
gentle ferry
Is yharim a god I’m confused
pliant ruin
you don't have to call them anything bc they don't really have any similraities with eachother besides being Strong Magical Things
no
hes racista gainst them
lethal mirage
yharim is racist
split mortar
Is yharim a god I’m confused
No
lethal mirage
john racism
split mortar
Is yharim transphobic
jaunty marsh
Probably
lethal mirage
i can fix him
pliant ruin
he hates the devourer and the devourer is from another world, sure xenophobic let's give him that
lethal mirage
he just needs a little love
split mortar
Yharim has a sick fucking dragon as a best friend i doubt love interests them
split mortar
Vanillin i will throw you
lethal mirage
nah thats beet
dusk laurel
i know
lethal mirage
root
pliant ruin
beets are pretty mid
lethal mirage
real
dusk laurel
yep
jaunty marsh
Just did dumb shit together
split mortar
They are best friends yes
lethal mirage
they still do this
pliant ruin
I mean if you think aout it aren't they literally that
lethal mirage
the crusade was just goofing around
split mortar
Yharim and yharon wanted to see who could get the higher kill death ratio
pliant ruin
like, yharim freeing pbg qualifies as dumb shit, i think
jaunty marsh
They liked each other but just for
pliant ruin
it's pretty dumb
jaunty marsh
Crusades
jaunty marsh
like, yharim freeing pbg qualifies as dumb shit, i think
Ok but like
split mortar
They were so close their souls attuned
lethal mirage
no they besties!!
jaunty marsh
Yharim also hated the plague and what draedon did
So that could also just be chalked up to
split mortar
Yharim also hated the plague and what draedon did
Then kill the plague thing???
jaunty marsh
Comrades in war
lunar thorn
would everyone die if the plague spread everywhere?
jaunty marsh
How😭
split mortar
Why release the automated green flavoured slavery disease
split mortar
would everyone die if the plague spread everywhere?
Draedon has a kill switch for it (which only becomes truly dangerous to the plague after pbg is killed)
jaunty marsh
I mean yharim was really desperate by the end of the crusade
So he might have done it to release more threats
pliant ruin
He was angry and not thinking straight so he released pbg. much like every other bad thing yharim caused he waas like "ehhhh its okayyy its not big deallll" and chose to ignore it. spoilers: it was kind of a big deal
unborn wind
yharim does not think with his brain
pliant ruin
no that would go against his entire character
lethal mirage
draedon made covid
jaunty marsh
DRAEDON NO DONT EAT THAT BAT-
pliant ruin
the reason he even freed pbg and fired draedon was an act of defiance against draedon enslaving the bees
lunar thorn
Imagine Draedon gave Cal Clone plague power implements
split mortar
Yharim is very
Strong in what morals they have
lethal mirage
i swear yharim is just sulking in the aerie
split mortar
If it would go against them
Its almost always gonna be hyper out of character
lunar thorn
Brimstone Plague fireball:
split mortar
Well gtg bai
lethal mirage
byee
split mortar
Well gtg bai
Time me out for an hour if possible (so i dont get distracted by chat when im meant to college work)
lunar thorn
Cal Plague Clone timeline
lethal mirage
Time me out for an hour if possible (so i dont get distracted by chat when im me...
just do do not disturb
sily
jaunty marsh
Wait also
How come there’s so little people in terraria
With the size of the world it’s probably like
Island/small country size
But there’s only ~40 npcs total
Excluding you
dusk laurel
well
jaunty marsh
And maybe calamitias
dusk laurel
mhm
split mortar
How come there’s so little people in terraria
Yharims crusade killed half the world population and we are in the continent hit the hardest
split mortar
My pc did its normal thing (bluescreening randomly) so bye now its back on
jaunty marsh
Rip lol
split mortar
Proof of the half world population die
lunar thorn
If Cal Clone wondered into the Astral Infection, could she be taken over by it?
split mortar
No she is fully sapient
lunar thorn
What about if she summoned her brothers?
split mortar
Why would that effect how intelligent she is
lunar thorn
What I mean is would her brothers be infected
split mortar
Probably
Though she would maybe still control them since she just puppets them and i imagine it wouldnt work since astral doesnt tale away our minions
lunar thorn
And Draedon's bodies he sent to the infection got infected b/c they didn't count as being smart to the infection?
split mortar
They count as alive as a rock because they arent alive and therefore cant resist it
This also means draedon probably cant resist it either
unborn wind
draedon's mind can resist the infection but his body can't
split mortar
We know that how?
unborn wind
hold on
lunar thorn
In the story, does the astral infection fall to the world before we arrive? or after Wall?
split mortar
After wall
unborn wind
We know that how?
split mortar
Draedon lacks a thinking brain though no? Just circuitry like aureus i thought
unborn wind
i don't think the mind being literally made of organic matter is what matters here rather the mind being sapient
not sure how else you're supposed to interpret "even if my mind remained" either way though
lunar thorn
The 'mind remain' is interpretable in a few ways b/c of the 'if'.
split mortar
Yeah it says if
Like its uncertain
lunar thorn
Would the world succumb to the Crimson and Corruption if let alone?
split mortar
Possibly, or life may find a way to resist them who knows
They have only existed for a few decades
jaunty marsh
Well the dryad is still there and considering that the planet itself is techically alive
I imagine it’s a 50/50
The same way that people are when they get cancer
split mortar
The worlds soul shattered millenia ago
I doubt the world is very alive
Also vanilla lore aint canon to calamity
lunar thorn
I'd Imagine Silva would try to do something about it after reforming
jaunty marsh
Well look at slimes
They barely have souls
Let alone anything
But they’re still alive
They still try to keep themselves alive
split mortar
If you alive you get a soul
Slimes have a soul yes
We dunno if the world has a soul anymore
lunar thorn
Xeroc consumes Green Slime's soul
jaunty marsh
Lowk I hope not because it would mean that I killed someone every time I use Tedit
To make arenas
proven rivet
lunar thorn
(college work pings)
lunar thorn
?
split mortar
Their name
lunar thorn
Silve is the god of life right? so I would think she'd have a interst in protecting the life of Terraria from Corruption and Crimson
oh
lunar thorn
Yharim has life in him but kills people
split mortar
They are the elemental of nature which may exclude the god essence biomes (hallowed crim and corup) due to their more foreign and unnatural origins
But ehhh, they may just not like it cause theyre stinky
lunar thorn
alright
Hope she doesn't get mad with my descendants centuries later b/c I cleansed the world evils
split mortar
They are the first dryad so i imagine that since the dryad sells purification powder theyre fine if not would be happy you did that
lunar thorn
split mortar
Yes silva is the goddess of life, elemental of nature and first dryad all at once lmao
lunar thorn
nice looks for the silva emote
If Yharim didn't kill the false gods, (gods) would the world be a better place? Or would the world be patchwork of tyrannies lead by some gods?
split mortar
Itd be better since the world would be normal
Also yharim didnt kill the false god (astrum deus)
lethal mirage
thats cause deus is too powerful
lunar thorn
Deus is considered a god too?
lethal mirage
no...
split mortar
Deus is considered a god too?
No but some people think they are
split mortar
Thats why i called them the false god
split mortar
just some powerful space guy afaik
Yeah a peaceful space worm that feasts on stars
And its prob a juvenile of its species
And its one of the few guys we dont kill!
lethal mirage
just a little babby
split mortar
We free it from the moldy food prison
lunar thorn
I consider all the people who have titles of 'god' from eating auric souls false gods since none of those people fit the literal definition of god since they are not all powerful. The only one close is Xeroc, but he has a beginning.
lethal mirage
ok but then who are the true gods
split mortar
theres a definition of god that isnt omnipotent
lethal mirage
ya
lunar thorn
@lethal mirage idk, in terraria
split mortar
ok but then who are the true gods
none under that definition
lunar thorn
I was asking about things adjacent to that question (in the past) but didn't wanna talk about it too much so i don't get banned for talking about religion too much
split mortar
xeroc will become the strongest being possible in calamity at some point in the future
and they still wont be omnipotent
lethal mirage
the definition of gods changes based on context
cloud ibex
gods in cal are closer to like
lunar thorn
you can also say things like 'divine power' to mean really strong
cloud ibex
greek or norse gods
lunar thorn
^makes more sense in that context
split mortar
you can also say things like 'divine power' to mean really strong
slime god can solo a normal army so even among the weakest theyre strong
lethal mirage
greek or norse gods
yea
lunar thorn
Ok, so it makes more sense to me now
lunar thorn
The Dragons are like the Titians and the gods are like the greek gods who killed the titians and took their place
mighty zenith
norse and greek gods are still like much more powerful then cal gods
yeah but the point is they aren't omnipotent
mighty zenith
they're pog
lunar thorn
But someone came along and killed the greek gods for killing the titians
pliant ruin
no that never happened
split mortar
(in certain other religions) a superhuman being or spirit worshipped as having power over nature or human fortunes; a deity.
mighty zenith
always loved greek mythology, also recently started hades and i still love it
hades good go play
split mortar
(in certain other religions) a superhuman being or spirit worshipped as having p...
i think cal gods fit the second definition
lethal mirage
always loved greek mythology, also recently started hades and i still love it
ooo hades good game
pliant ruin
the titans were just sealed away in tartarus after the original 6 greek gods beat them up (was it 6?)
some of them were allowed to roam around though
lunar thorn
Oh, thought they all died
lethal mirage
ares from hades 🤤
pliant ruin
some titans were sealed like kronos, but some the gods were like "ok this guy is kinda chill ngl" so they were allowed to stay free, i think helios was one of them?
mighty zenith
uhh the 3 brothers and the 3 sisters
so zeus, hades, poseidon, hera, demeter and hestia
the latter 5 being the kids kronos ate
mighty zenith
ye
pliant ruin
i think so? maybe im mistaken tho
lethal mirage
damn mb
lunar thorn
If helios has a kid with a human, will that person be weaker than a greek god?
lethal mirage
no
maybe
he had a child with a water nymph
and she was pretty strong
not like zeus strong
lunar thorn
I'm not that educated in greek mythology or history, but i'd be interesting to think of Helios wandering to a foreign place and the people start worshipping him as a new religion
pliant ruin
hes just a chill guy.
mighty zenith
meowmeowmeowmeow
lethal mirage
hades good go play
but yee hades 2 so peak
i cant wait for it to release
ive already played so much hades 1
mighty zenith
ive yet to finish hades 1,,
lunar thorn
What does Helios do all day?
lethal mirage
this is me and ares
mighty zenith
||theseus and asterius are bastards||
lethal mirage
What does Helios do all day?
be the sun
lethal mirage
||theseus and asterius are bastards||
real.....
i love asterius
he is like "im a chill guy just theseus got that ego"
pliant ruin
helios is just xeroc actually
-Divine Sun Being
-Kinda chill, ngl. Just a chill guy.
lunar thorn
but when you touch his rock:
lethal mirage
lunar thorn
The sun: Imma throw big monsters at you b/c you touched my special rock
cloud ibex
no it's more like
lethal mirage
xeroc might be the radiance
split mortar
xerocs special rock is actually the reward for beating the monsters
cloud ibex
"oh hey someone found that artifact i tossed in the abyss way back"
"hold on this'd be REALLY fuckin funny"
lunar thorn
^makes more sense XD
cloud ibex
chill stoner xeroc trumps all
split mortar
theres a reason xeroc is part of the ultimate blunt rotation according to saint of gardens
lethal mirage
i begg
xeroc is just a stoner
just a chill guy
"whyd you give me this rock"
"haha rock"
split mortar
born to smoke blunts forced to lock in
lethal mirage
smoking that auric soul
lunar thorn
@split mortar It's because he saw the Waiting Tables timeline
lethal mirage
rudee
dusk laurel
lunar thorn
lmao
split mortar
<:atone:1314340243389812776>
lurker
dusk laurel
lunar thorn
37 page doc pops up in ur dms with the title Waiting Tables
I think i struck gold with this idea
New spin-off mod for Calamity Mod like Calamity Fables
cloud ibex
born to smoke blunts forced to lock in
lmao
lunar thorn
Calamity Tables 
mighty zenith
rayquaza and xeroc would be smoking buddies
lunar thorn
Yo Fabsol hear me out:
lethal mirage
godlike space bros
cloud ibex
dream blunt rotation: xeroc, prismo from adventure time and newt from risk of rain
lethal mirage
newt from risk of rain laced that shit
lunar thorn
New guy walks into chat: "What on earth are they talking about?!?"
lethal mirage
loar
lunar thorn
Xeroc hands Terrarian a blunt at end of story, "That Yharim guy right? ahahah!"
split mortar
New guy walks into chat: "What on earth are they talking about?!?"
thats a normal reaction looking in here
atleast its on topic rn
lunar thorn
Will Xeroc give us a blunt after beating Noxus?
split mortar
maybe
lunar thorn
"I can't give you a auric soul, or immortality, but I got something else. Drugs."
lunar thorn
Xeroc gives Terrarian NitroHypeSquadBrilliance
lethal mirage
meow
lunar thorn
The milks over there >
lethal mirage
lack toes and taller ants
split mortar
ants?
lethal mirage
sounds like lactose intolerance
lunar thorn
she did do a blunt rotation with Xeroc
split mortar
lethal mirage
what is this creature
mighty zenith
he's a twink
lethal mirage
and this is my first exposire to him
split mortar
thats statis
lethal mirage
LETS GO??
lunar thorn
I thought Braelor was buff
lethal mirage
aw
mighty zenith
braelor is the himbo
lethal mirage
how statis
split mortar
statis is their gay twink bf
lethal mirage
LETS GO??
lunar thorn
Statis good at dodging 'cause Statis belt gives dodge right?
split mortar
they are the agile one of the two
unborn wind
statis is my boyfriend
split mortar
you are not braelor
unborn wind
no. im better
pulsar ocean
yhorm
split mortar
cringe
lunar thorn
Squidward isn't stuck in distortion
lunar thorn
yhorm sounds like Yharim but trippin
split mortar
Squidward isn't stuck in distortion
squidward hasnt survived being in the same plane of existence as noxus
yhorm the yharim worm/dark souls character/fak lore character
pulsar ocean
spongebob no diffs noxus he has toon force
lunar thorn
u mean yermes
lethal mirage
your soul.... its dark
split mortar
thanks
unborn wind
squidward hasnt survived being in the same plane of existence as noxus
squidward works a 9-5 as a cashier with mr krabs as his boss noxus would be no problem for him
split mortar
explodes yharim with mind
pulsar ocean
3 of them
split mortar
squidward works a 9-5 as a cashier with mr krabs as his boss noxus would be no p...
nah noxus can just make the crusty crabs have a endless supply of impatient customers thatd solo squidward
unborn wind
hasn't he suffered enough
split mortar
NO
lethal mirage
squiwar
unborn wind
lunar thorn
@split mortar yermes = Yharim worm
lethal mirage
wgat
mighty zenith
incomprehensible sentence
lethal mirage
name=glug
mighty zenith
https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1340819943717081118.webp?size=48&name=glug
is this a bed buge
split mortar
vencord fake nitro not work here sads
dry agate
So... from what I just finished reading today... the Draedon we see ingame is a replica of the actual Draedon thus the rust...?
lethal mirage
yess
split mortar
its a recon body
lethal mirage
fakedon
split mortar
draedon is a super intelligent ai they dont really have an actual body
dry agate
Ah, alright that makes a bit more sense as to why we can kill him then
lethal mirage
blunt rotation with draedon
lunar thorn
Does Draedon have a combat body?
split mortar
Does Draedon have a combat body?
thats the exos
dry agate
Does Draedon have a combat body?
Exo Trio
lunar thorn
besides that? or no?
dry agate
Nop
lethal mirage
he is an ai
split mortar
almost certainly
lethal mirage
he is the exos
split mortar
but not as noteworthy
split mortar
he is the exos
they have an ai seperate from draedon, they listen to draedon but dont contain its ai
dry agate
Unless you count the mechs that he made with the souls of Yharim's soldiers? Tho that was more for the army than Draedon himself
mighty zenith
draedon doesn't really like fighting himself
occasionally, if he does have to use his recon body for fighting, he'll just pull out a fucking gun
lethal mirage
they have an ai seperate from draedon, they listen to draedon but dont contain i...
oh
dry agate
The Astrum Deus lore made sense after I got down to Draedon's POV, it makes sense that it's a juvenile Deus and as to how it became infected then proceeded to throw a dying star at Terraria
split mortar
draedon is a pretty great source of info
lunar thorn
I'd like to talk to Draedon out of curisodity like this channel, hope he wouldn't get annoyed at me tho
mighty zenith
because he's super inteligent and doesn't have a reason to lie to you (both being things yharim lacks
split mortar
you can chat to draedon ingame
lunar thorn
Yeah, but you can't chill with him in his labs as he's making cool stuff. But I really like the chat with him after the Exos, thats really fun.
lethal mirage
i love when yharim bias vs chad draedon facts
split mortar
yharim on their way to be one of the worst sources of info we have
split mortar
baiaiaiaiiiiai
lethal mirage
byeee
lunar thorn
Draedon says, "Na fam, god that came from corruption was chill"
gentle ferry
Why was moon lord imprisoned in moon
split mortar
because they couldnt kill it
lunar thorn
Dragons made him retreat after crippling him i think?
lunar thorn
His regen was too strong to kill him?
split mortar
that and the fact its possibly the most durable character
and you can remove almost all organs and itll still fight
languid badge
zetaros was by far the strongest dragon and he was left on deaths door after the fight
split mortar
and its still among the strongest on the planet
lunar thorn
sounds like someone super high on drugs in a fight being more durable b/c they don't feel pain
split mortar
couldnt kill him
that is the case
split mortar
and its still among the strongest on the planet
and immediately tries duking with the thing that freed it, to the death
gentle ferry
It would be cool if there was a what if mod like catalyst where moon lord and his celestial legion weren’t defeated
lunar thorn
So does the Terrarian kill him?
split mortar
moonlord is prob uhhh, too strong to win against
split mortar
So does the Terrarian kill him?
yes, a moonlord left on 1% hp
gentle ferry
So does the Terrarian kill him?
Yeah I imagine
languid badge
random thought: perma could totally solo like most of hardmode
lunar thorn
He can do this b/c Moon Lord is weaken from fighting Zaretos and the other dragons?
split mortar
He can do this b/c Moon Lord is weaken from fighting Zaretos and the other drago...
yes, look at moonlord sprite/my pfp and ask yourself if that looks healthy
lunar thorn
"Makusula al Orin, does this look healthy? No."
split mortar
hell, iirc theres a quote from cei saying moonlord may be able to survive decapitation aswell
lunar thorn
Moon Lord watching Astral Infection passing by the moon on its way to Terraria: "Yeah! Get 'em!"
languid badge
but generally speaking your brain being detached from your heart tends to be fatal
lunar thorn
For ML maybe its a helpful tool, but he could still live
languid badge
ok but why would he be able to live
lunar thorn
no idea, suffered fatal wounds already idk
languid badge
if he can survive decapitation why is anything we do to him even remotely threatening
gentle ferry
if he can survive decapitation why is anything we do to him even remotely threat...
Solar eruption spam
split mortar
the heart thing is called a core not heart
languid badge
the heart thing is called a core not heart
thats semantics and you know it
its shaped like a heart, its where you would expect a heart to be, it appears to fulfil a heart like function, that is a heart in everything but name
gentle ferry
thats semantics and you know it
its shaped like a heart, its where you would exp...
And its name is core
So different rules
There’s flowers shaped like birds irl that don’t act like birds
languid badge
I wouldn't be surprised if the only reason it isnt outright called a heart is because of some age rating thing or just "it sounds cooler"
lunar thorn
Core sounds cooler
dusk laurel
the terrarian kills a weakened moon lord yeah
languid badge
also core is just straight up a way you could describe a heart
but even if you wanna be pendantic and say "oh its totally different even though all signs say otherwise" I will point out that its irrelevant anyway since ml still just dies once you destroy the core, so clearly either way its keeping him alive
split mortar
FOUND THE QUOTE
languid badge
also core is just straight up a way you could describe a heart
but even if you...
so unless the brain is just ornamental I dont see it
split mortar
not the moonlord decapitated one
lunar thorn
What does Cal do after being beaten by Terrarian?
magic epoch
so unless the brain is just ornamental I dont see it
i was about to say some conspiracy theory shit like "what if... the brain is like a shell,,, kinda like the one covering the core" but i looked back at the sprite and that shit is 5000% a brain lmao
languid badge
FOUND THE QUOTE
i mean, I feel like this is a lot of "win by default bc the opponent does not have hands"
split mortar
golem does
lunar thorn
I do
languid badge
I'm gonna be real I do not think she beats golem in a fistfight
magic epoch
fiery fists of stone vs fiery fists of
languid badge
at least not without magical assistance
split mortar
i am surprised but apparently a writer sees that as reasonable
languid badge
I also would not take offhand comments by writers as gospel
split mortar
FOUND DECAPITATION ONE?
split mortar
I also would not take offhand comments by writers as gospel
fiar
split mortar
I also would not take offhand comments by writers as gospel
its the best we got rn on the subject
languid badge
calamity boxxing ring
nah but tbh I still think golem solos
superheated fists moving only slightly slower than a bobit worm
thats gonna cause bone fractures if not more unless cal has some superhuman endurance we are simply unaware of
that said thats assuming cal isnt using magic in any way
with magic its a different story
split mortar
Bro she's not even going insane in that one
never said that
languid badge
the only way I see decapitated ml working is if the body is just fully functional without a brain
which given the eyes are straight up autonomous might actually not be too big of a stretch
its also a hilarious visual
split mortar
until every part of ml is dead it can come back
languid badge
ok but like at what point do you define a part of ml as dead
split mortar
i imagine the in game death is a good point
languid badge
ok but like at what point do you define a part of ml as dead
are ml legs considered dead by default or were they only dead after being ripped in half
manic coral
Bro she's not even going insane in that one
yeah i hold to that thought, there's a solid enough chance it could survive decapitation imo
languid badge
the head portion or the body
manic coral
good question!
split mortar
imagine if its both
manic coral
golem ass mf
split mortar
moonlord looks at what gojo died to and is unimpressed
spare pier
yeah i hold to that thought, there's a solid enough chance it could survive deca...
We were also talking about your statement of how good Calamitas was at throwing hands and that one is something I think you were going insane
manic coral
nah i think calamitas cound potentially throw hands
spare pier
No, I mean like
languid badge
I mean yeah but like
throwing hands with a rock?
spare pier
You saying she could beat anything weaker than Moon Lord on a fistfight 
split mortar
you said they would beat anyone pre ml with just fists no mana
spare pier
If you're assuming her strengthening her body with mana, sure I see that
manic coral
i said a fistfight
cloud ibex
ok but calamitas squaring up with EoL and winning is a really funny mental image
manic coral
not no mana
languid badge
ok that changes things
manic coral
actually empowering herself with mana but otherwise
just hands
i mean she can make a shield with mana so strong that you struggle to break it
languid badge
I mean you did imply no mana after
speaking of
the idea of scal just running out of mana mid boss fight is amusing
manic coral
I mean you did imply no mana after
i mean regardless of mana or not yeah she could probably throw hand still just. mana would make her throw hands better.
split mortar
beats deus with just hands