lore-discussion

[limpid saddle]

It's been mentioned in some dev logs that the integration for the Noxus fight is that after defeating Yharim, Xeroc seeks your aid to lure out Noxus, thus resulting in you fighting him, & either you or Xeroc putting him down

The Xeroc fight in turn will not be a battle to the death, but something akin to a sparring match

So it seems Xeroc is fully aware that he cannot succesfully kill Noxus on his own, so it's fair to assume (think thats the fifth time i've said that) that he isnt persuing him, but is just, guarding Terraria

Sorry if some of my statements have been contradictory, im kind of piecing together all the info in my head while i type

[lunar thorn]

Oh ur guud 👌

So we help the world guardian beat his rival, and in the process, potentially saving the world?

[limpid saddle]

That is the current plan for the superbosses last I knew

Plans can change though, & they are in like, really rough early makings

the mod team is busy at work giving DoG it's 27th resprite & adding ray-tracing to the Giant Clam

[lunar thorn]

That new DoG respite is ominous...

I wonder how made Yharim would be that we get to meet Xeroc and he doesn't

[hardy stump]

When Yahrim Resprite?

[limpid saddle]

He'd probably be angrier at the fact we dont murder him

He does spend the entire game trying to make the Terrarian into his protegè in God-slaying

[lunar thorn]

Then we go "na fam"

[limpid saddle]

Something something, "The Terrarian is YOU!" so technically they could try to succeed him

Though in actual game canon this isnt true otherwise Supreme Calamitas would fight us to the death

But everybody around here is really fucking lenient with head-canon so I guess you could delusion yourself into thinking you murdered her

[lunar thorn]

I like idea of Xeroc being kept around to deal with extra-planetary threats while the Terrarian does whatever down below, and being the merciful good guy

[spare pier]

I mean, not really

Calamitas has a massive stake in that battle, yes, but she has no reason to bet her life on the incredibly slim chance that she'd be able to kill you after you weathered literally everything she could throw at you

She has nothing else up her sleeve

She cannot kill you

[light linden]

I mean

[lunar thorn]

Does she fight us because she's afraid we'll become like Yharim?

[light linden]

she has at least one thing up her sleeve

[spare pier]

What?

[light linden]

idt any of her attacks we've seen could boil an ocean

she could reasonably just leave the box and then just turn up the heat in there

[spare pier]

LITERALLY the only thing I think she could pull would be a Fuuga-like attack where she ignites the entire arena instantly and kills herself alongside you

[spare pier]

The nefarious Whispering Maelstrom:

Also you gotta consider that she probably just kept firing basic ass fire blasts at the ocean, things which would be completely useless against the Terrarian

[limpid saddle]

I mean hey if we really were a Yharim 2 I could see her pushing herself to such extreme measures

[light linden]

^

[spare pier]

You gotta consider that she also can't even be sure that'd work

If you really are Yharim 2, she would retreat and try to find a way of assassinating you

There is absolutely no reason for her to bet her life on that fight

[lunar thorn]

Nebulous core could save the terrarian too

[spare pier]

Yeah, depending on what you brought you could just survive that

[lunar thorn]

Why does she get enraged when we leave the arena?

[spare pier]

Gameplay

No enrage is canon

[lunar thorn]

Oh OK, I'd be funny tho, "ur not following the rules!"

*ok

[light linden]

I mean

the plantera one kinda makes sense

[spare pier]

The absolute only way I could see it working is through something similar to Binding Vows but even then they would be super awkward

And yeah ok Plantera is the only one

[light linden]

also the corruption, crimson, and hallow bosses

[spare pier]

First of all this concept is unseen in the entire rest of the Mod

Second of all, ah yes

"If my opponent doesn't abide to these restrictions who literally do not affect me in any way I get stronger"

[light linden]

hell the eol literally has a lore explanation for their enrage

[spare pier]

I don't really consider EoL an enrage but yeah

Nor Providence

[light linden]

the two scourges as well

[limpid saddle]

unexpected jjk reference

[light linden]

cal clone makes no damn sense

[lunar thorn]

Malice Mode is the timeline when everyone gets nosleep

[limpid saddle]

the enrage at daytime or in general

[lunar thorn]

I wonder if Cal gets mad when Fearmonger makes Terrarian immune to debuffs

Or when it used to nullify some of her flame debuff

[mighty zenith]

does fearmonger make you immune to brimstone flames

[lunar thorn]

It used to I think

[mighty zenith]

oh it does

i mean i guess it'd make her feel more desperate

since her speciality isnt nearly as effective

but its not like fearmonger makes you take no damage from her attacks either

[lunar thorn]

Yeah

[abstract sage]

Why do you even need to kill golem to get the cultists to spawn

What relation did he had

[prime mauve]

it basically does tbhh

[mighty zenith]

shh

[prime mauve]

fearmeta armor

[mighty zenith]

fearmonger is not real

[hoary cape]

I don't think there is any it's just for game play reasons

[pulsar bluff]

is the terrarian dying over and over coming back like

a canon thing?

[mighty zenith]

fearmongus

[abstract sage]

Probably not

[young socket]

scal doesnt even inflict brimstone flames

[magic epoch]

fear

[mighty zenith]

only if you want your character to respawn

otherwise no

[young socket]

inflicts vul hex which isnt protected by fearmonger

[hoary cape]

I mean technically the canon playthrough is hardcore revengeance, but eh it's what ever

[pulsar bluff]

so realistically we defeat every boss first try

[abstract sage]

Imagine the npcs seeing the owner of your house changing each and every day

[prime mauve]

I could fix that..

(no)

[pulsar bluff]

i like to consider infernum as the most realistic thing lore wise

with like 200 hours on it it feels like every boss actually puts their entire power into fighting you

so its more fun

[hoary cape]

I think that's just a gameplay thing. I don't think they have any connection lol

[magic epoch]

fear monger should give immunity to women

[abstract sage]

Damn

[mighty zenith]

i mean, it literally cant be but sure

[abstract sage]

So we just killed some races idol for no reason at all lmao

[pulsar bluff]

is there somethin that im missing ?

[hoary cape]

I mean golem is optional in calamity

So...

[lunar thorn]

Fearmonger used to make you immune to Scal debuffs right?

[magic epoch]

can someone explain this message to me? I don't get it

[mighty zenith]

infernum is unofficial and non-canon

[abstract sage]

I have literally heard the same argument for undertale fangames

[mighty zenith]

so that kinda
makes it impossible to be the most realistic potrayal of the bosses

[abstract sage]

I understand where it is coming from tho

[pulsar bluff]

fair enough honestly

[hoary cape]

Why are you asking what your own message means lol

[magic epoch]

i don't understand it anymore

[hoary cape]

Women repellent armor

[prime mauve]

Too bad L

[mighty zenith]

go to sleep

everyone of u

[hoary cape]

Sleep is for the weak

It's 11am I am not sleeping

[mighty zenith]

go to wake

[hoary cape]

I am awake

[lunar thorn]

Go away - ke
Ahahah
🤣

Get it? Awake? Ahahahah 🤣

[dusk laurel]

death penalty

[limpid saddle]

are you

[lunar thorn]

Any lore for Omega Blue?

[limpid saddle]

its an armor set, how do you mean?

[lunar thorn]

Are the ruinous souls used to make it the same souls coalesced in polstergast? Is the player using the power of tortured souls for its power in abysmal madness?

[limpid saddle]

i mean polterghast drops them

they are, inherently, polterghasts' souls

Though I wouldnt read too much into equipment in general

Unless it's something that directly names a character, like Statis' Blessing, it usually isnt worth evaluating other than for your own interest

We, sadly, are not operating on From Software levels of lore in item descriptions

[lunar thorn]

Why does Yharim stop intervening in Terraria? Depressed he can't reach Xerox?

[limpid saddle]

Well for all intents & purposes, he had mostly succeded, with only around 50 gods left & Silva in the abyss, I suppose he began self-reflecting

[mighty zenith]

when he departed for the dragon aerie, he almost got killed by braelor and statis

[arctic marlin]

can someone explain to me the lore of the lilies of fertility and why they're so creepy

[mighty zenith]

ok thats

thats not the name

😭

[limpid saddle]

i dont know, go play signalis

[arctic marlin]

is that what its based off of?

[lunar thorn]

Thanks 👌👍

[mighty zenith]

yes

[limpid saddle]

yeah

[arctic marlin]

sigmalis

[mighty zenith]

❌

[arctic marlin]

signalis

cmon do it

[hoary cape]

I have to ban Garbo now because you committed a crime random user

[mighty zenith]

✅

[arctic marlin]

you ruined it khamul

signalis

[mighty zenith]

what the FUCK

[limpid saddle]

im starting to think i should cave your head in with a big rock

[arctic marlin]

signalis

wait

no

sigmalis

[hoary cape]

I ruin all jokes

[arctic marlin]

fuck off

sigmalis

[lunar thorn]

Xeroc's rock

[arctic marlin]

i give up

[hoary cape]

Good

[brisk ore]

Xerock

[lunar thorn]

[stoic gulch]

[wheat walrus]

guh

[split mortar]

Guh

[lunar thorn]

@split mortar guh

[split mortar]

Sending them after you

[lunar thorn]

Is cirrus cannon fabsol

[split mortar]

Cirrus is gonna be canon iirc
Changing some stuff for that i think

[lunar thorn]

What's she gonna be the princess of?

[split mortar]

Alcoholism (idk)

[lunar thorn]

Archmage cursed her to become a alicorn if she drinks to much

I find it interesting you get Drew's Wings from Yharon, and Fabsol uses Cirrus as avatar

Will the rock be used for anything in the future?

[split mortar]

Afaik no

Its just a sentimental thing xeroc has

[spare pier]

Drew Wings are almost definitely being rethemed into Yharon Wings

And then we will probably end up doing something wacky to keep Seraph Tracers as they are right now

[lunar thorn]

Change the sprite of the wings part to Yharon color 🙂

Will there be lore for why Cirrus becomes a alicorn?

[mighty zenith]

change the sprite into yharon's texture plastered onto the wings

[mighty zenith]

i think so yea

[lunar thorn]

Nice

👌

[spare pier]

She just does

I don't think there's anything that makes it require an explanation when the player also has access to several accessories that change their appearance

Shapeshifting magic is a thing in Terraria, shrimple as that

[lunar thorn]

Yeah, especially since Re-Logic's adding more transformation stuff next update

[dusk laurel]

thats her shimmer form afaik

[cloud ibex]

it's also just a thing she does i think

when you use the alicorn mount the npc disappears

[dusk laurel]

forgot that was a thing

[young socket]

i think theyre talking about princess spirit in a bottle

[lunar thorn]

Will ExoArmor be as strong as auric tesla?

[young socket]

yes

[split mortar]

Its tierd above auric iirc

Since its post exo

[dusk laurel]

yeah

[lunar thorn]

Will demonshade be post Scal and not post Scal+Exos

[young socket]

yeah

[dusk laurel]

yes

[split mortar]

It will be reworked when that happens

[lunar thorn]

So demonshade=exoarmor?

[dusk laurel]

yes

[lunar thorn]

So are Yharim's exoupgrades sidegrades or upgrades to his auric armor?

[young socket]

upgrades

[split mortar]

Upgrades

Why else would they seek it out

[spare pier]

Auric, Exo and Demonshade all aim to be roughly as powerful as each other

Each will end up filling different niches and playstyles

[split mortar]

Chat can we ban yharim theyre wearing 2 armours at once

[young socket]

gem tech

[dusk laurel]

fake armor

[split mortar]

Gem tech gets kicked in the stomach

[spare pier]

Gem Tech is the "carpal tunnel" niche

[split mortar]

Clicker class armour

[light linden]

hey rebecca can I ask a question?

[spare pier]

Shoot

[young socket]

infected pla-

[dusk laurel]

thunder

[light linden]

[split mortar]

Ena typa emote

[light linden]

tryna think of a way to phrase this because I just realized the way I was going to doesn't make sense

actually it'd prolly be easier to ask this

[light linden]

have you or any of the lore devs put any thought into how dense auric is?

[spare pier]

No

[split mortar]

:(

[light linden]

ok that answers my other question by proxy

thanks

[split mortar]

Elaborate

[light linden]

I was wondering what the density of auric is compared to steel but uh

yeah

[pliant holly]

in the tool tip doesnt it say it contains the energy of the universe

[split mortar]

In what tooltip

Auric?
That just says boundless energy

Which fun fact
Hyperbole exist
Thats not literal

-# sorry if that came off mean

[dusk laurel]

melon i CANT believe you would commit this abhorrent act

[split mortar]

Whaur

[young socket]

cant believe ud be unkind to someone

[split mortar]

Ohhhh

[split mortar]

Fuck you explode

[split mortar]

See
One fuck gets it

[lunar thorn]

Exo for tank and Demonshade for glass-cannonish magic? Auric generalist?

[light linden]

eh

[dusk laurel]

kind of close

[light linden]

exo armor will be customizable

[dusk laurel]

exo has 3 forms

tank, general, and glass cannon, you can customize all 3

[light linden]

auric is gonna be changed and we have no idea for demonshade

[dusk laurel]

auric is generalist

[split mortar]

One if demonshades is gonna be glass canon iirc

[dusk laurel]

the glasscanon is melee iirc

[light linden]

I feel like it's gonna be a gonna be a summoner set still

[dusk laurel]

demonshade will have 3 helms

[split mortar]

One will melee

[dusk laurel]

melee, mage + summoner, ranger + rogue

[light linden]

WHAT

[split mortar]

What

[light linden]

oh hell yes to the middle one

[split mortar]

Oh

Ok

[lunar thorn]

Rn I like fighting Exos first since the exo-weapons seem stronger than Scal weapons+curses

[young socket]

gem tech

[split mortar]

Gem tech is donor they need permission to change it

[young socket]

doesnt need changing

[dusk laurel]

idc about gemtech it has its niches

[lunar thorn]

If I use gemtech with just one weapon?

[young socket]

still good just not using it at its full potential

[split mortar]

How normal is yharim

[dusk laurel]

not normal

[young socket]

no

[split mortar]

:(

[lunar thorn]

I'm using it b/c it's not auric, wanted to do something diffrent

[split mortar]

Chat is yharim goober

[dusk laurel]

no

[split mortar]

Why naught

Why isnt yharim goober

[dusk laurel]

its just how the world works

[lunar thorn]

Exo sounds dope, the overheating form is glass-cannon?

[split mortar]

:(

[dusk laurel]

yep

[split mortar]

Isnt there a tank form aswell or was that scarped

[dusk laurel]

yes

[lunar thorn]

Will overheating have a timer until you take fore damage?

Fire*

[dusk laurel]

anyways if you want to talk about future armors and the like id recommend going into https://discord.com/channels/225030931008847874/711268703991365642

[dusk laurel]

no clue

[split mortar]

No you meant fore i wrtied it in stohne

[lunar thorn]

🤣👏👏👏

So true

[split mortar]

Yharm evil is that why they cant goober

[lunar thorn]

He old

[split mortar]

But the silly gooberisms

[dusk laurel]

yharim is like the opposite of silly

[lunar thorn]

Does get our jive

[dusk laurel]

im going to fry you

melon gun.

[split mortar]

But.
Pet the drgaon:(

[dusk laurel]

no thats his partner in crime

[split mortar]

Thats silly

[lunar thorn]

Do we know what his exoupgrades do for him?

[dusk laurel]

no it isnt crime is not silly

[dusk laurel]

no i dont think

[split mortar]

Stronger™️

[lunar thorn]

Chilling vanillin

[split mortar]

Jdhxhz
Yes they cans be

[dusk laurel]

[split mortar]

Half the world wasnt silly enough fir yharm

[lunar thorn]

Would Yharim be upset if the player cleanses the world b/c they'd be removing his evidence the gods are bad?

[pulsar ocean]

how are we growing tentacles with omega blue

[split mortar]

Dont think so

[pulsar trellis]

prob not i mean bro is too busy being depressed (also iirc the evil biomes are like god corpses so cleaning it up prob wouldnt upset him)

[split mortar]

Always thought it was that omega blue armour had the tentacles and we just got control of them by wearing the armour

[pulsar trellis]

plus yharim def has a lot more reasons he could show u that gods r bad other than the world evils

[lunar thorn]

Does the player grow stronger for the purpose of ridding the world of evil?

[split mortar]

You define the terrarian

You their lore pick

Your OC

[pulsar trellis]

player is pretty much headcannon

[split mortar]

You decide

[lunar thorn]

Cool

[split mortar]

You could be pro yharim or anti yharim or whatever is up with mark

[dusk laurel]

with WHAT

[pulsar ocean]

imagine how cool would auric omega blue armor be

[lunar thorn]

New donor set

[split mortar]

How goober is silva

[lunar thorn]

Eaten by Noxus

Maybe

[split mortar]

Noh

They live

In abyss now

Alive not even a loose word because they cant die

[lunar thorn]

Buff dryads?

[split mortar]

They are an elemental hence immortal

[lunar thorn]

So brimmy could train eternally until stronger than Yharim?

[split mortar]

Yharim would die of old age before then

But yes

All elementals are effectively immortal

[lunar thorn]

What are they elementals of?

[pulsar ocean]

if the heat death of the universe happened silva would die so not immortal

[split mortar]

Brimstone- heat
Anahita- water
Sand- earth
Cloud- air
Silva- nature

All things needed for life to happen and the life itself

[split mortar]

Matter can be made of nothing are we sure they cant keep life on the planet even after the sun goes
Even if just microscopic bacteria

[pulsar ocean]

can goku beat silva

[split mortar]

Goku is alive and so if on earth silva cant die to goku
But goku can easily win a fight

[lunar thorn]

I was gonna ask, are they elementals that represent the elementals only on Terraria? Or universally?

[split mortar]

Only the planet

[pulsar ocean]

goku

isnt

terraria

[split mortar]

If it takes place on terraria then theyre counted

[lunar thorn]

So if the player lived but Terraria died b/c he caught a ride on Draedon Spaceship, Silva would be alive b/c Terrarian is part of nature?

[pulsar ocean]

can terrarian die of ye olde age

[split mortar]

Terraria is the name of the planet btw
And no they wouldnt theyre no longer on the planet so silvas immortality wont include them

[lunar thorn]

Ok

[pulsar ocean]

what if goku exploded the planet outside of it

[split mortar]

Silva dies

[lunar thorn]

Could some try the god ascending-soul eating ritual on a elemental to try to live forever?

[split mortar]

Elementals arent auric dragons so they may not be compatible with said ritual

Infact silva becomes a god

[lunar thorn]

Did Silva consume a auric soul?

[split mortar]

Yea

Dragon of life

[split mortar]

To become a god you have to

[lunar thorn]

OP, can't die + god power up, Yharim must be fuming

[split mortar]

And also second being to perfect ascend meaning they kept the life domain

[lunar thorn]

What does power over the life domain do?

[split mortar]

Considering we only know of her buffing people
Probably makes buffing other’s a lot stronger

[lunar thorn]

Dryads Blessing+100

[split mortar]

The people they buffed being braelor and mother fucking jared

[lunar thorn]

+terrarian when fighting Noxus 🙂

[split mortar]

?

Dog didnt eated silva

[lunar thorn]

Bring her along maybe?

[split mortar]

Bring a braindead mush barely resembling body along?

They havent healed from what yharim did

[lunar thorn]

Oh

[split mortar]

Otherwise theyd have escaped the abyss by now

[lunar thorn]

I thought you meant full healed in a prison or something

[split mortar]

Nah yharim just dropped her in the abyss so she would have to crawl out to do stuff which is a lot harder when under the pressure of the abyss

[lunar thorn]

Could dropping Scal there beat her?

If subdued first

[split mortar]

??

Like
Kill silva?

No but itd be harder to come back together

Also jared beats scal if they were to start fighting

[lunar thorn]

Is Jared The Lorde?

[split mortar]

Or well
Has an advantage

[lunar thorn]

Or aew

[split mortar]

Nah
Teleport in there to see them

[split mortar]

Primordial wyrm

Changed from adult a while ago

Jared is goober

[lunar thorn]

Is Jared just gatekeeping rodteleport in the abyss?

[split mortar]

Jared guards the terminus and attacks anyone who usurps primordial light

And would attack xeroc on sight

[pliant holly]

How long has the primordial wrym been in the abyss or do we not know

[lunar thorn]

I'd be funny if ther was a low chance for Jared to show up at the end of Boss Russ buffed

[split mortar]

Nah jared would get their shit ROCKED by xeroc

[lunar thorn]

I mean Xeroc using him to fight you

[split mortar]

Eh idk if that will happen
Also jared is stronger then scal and exos who iirc have roughly same stats as their boss rush counterparts

So jared might end up weaker

In boss rush if added

[lunar thorn]

Is halibut cannon still one of the strongest weapons?

[split mortar]

Uh idk

[lunar thorn]

If you kill preScal or Exos, I'd still be good for them?

Kill jared*

[split mortar]

Think so idk i dont rember

[lunar thorn]

I wonder if no-hitter ban it

Probably

[split mortar]

Btw the thing in the background of bossrush is 1 spell sigil from xeroc

[lunar thorn]

Is it also a representational symbol of Xeroc watching?

[split mortar]

Not anymore its just a primordial light sigil

Old lore it was their eye???

But yeah 1 spell sigil from xeroc is the size of mountains

[lunar thorn]

I remember it being called The Eye Of Xeroc

Iirc

[split mortar]

Yeah old lore

Back before the lore rewrite xeroc was just
God

Omnipotent

[lunar thorn]

When did The Great Rewrite happen?

[split mortar]

2 ish years ago

[young socket]

over 2 years ago now

[lunar thorn]

Did people keep giving fabsol ideas?

[split mortar]

Fabsol aint a lorer

[young socket]

fabsol doesnt write

[split mortar]

They just code bosses and stuff

They dont really mess with the lore

[lunar thorn]

Alright

He just wanted to make cool stuff and people tagged along to help?

[split mortar]

Yeah
Iirc theres prob like idk 20-40 devs for calamity maybe more

[dusk laurel]

fabsol wrote the original lore from like almost a decade ago

iirc

he's one of the original devs

[lunar thorn]

Not the original?

[dusk laurel]

thats not something i know

[split mortar]

While scal or yharim are just city level

[lunar thorn]

Can Xeroc resurrect people?

[split mortar]

Necromamcy is inherently flawed its impossible to resurrect things accurately

Yharon rebirths them which is different hence why it works kinda

[lunar thorn]

Kinda?

[split mortar]

There was a mention by devs a while ago that the auric dragons arent the exact same after a rebirth and its more like a reincarnation snd they can go remember their past lives i think??? Tho it is prob too old of a quote to consider reliable

[lunar thorn]

Ah, I'd think Yharon's reincarnation would be not perfect too b/c Terrarian using his soul fragments for weapons

[dusk laurel]

yharon's is perfect afaik

[split mortar]

Nah yharon can heal that back

[dusk laurel]

he retains his memories unlike the other dragons

[split mortar]

Its only some of their soul

[split mortar]

And this
Yharons rebirth is much less deviating if it deviates at all then other dragons rebirths

[lunar thorn]

Was the lore reason for him healing from 50% that he was using some of his power of resurrection to heal himself like Doctor Who did long time ago?

[split mortar]

Im too tired to answer its past midnight bye yall

[lunar thorn]

🤚

[lunar thorn]

Is Braelor Silva's paladin / warrior friend?

[cloud ibex]

silva's champion

so kind of a paladin i think yes

[lunar thorn]

Can she extend his life?

Not her bf?

[young socket]

no braelors alr taken

[lunar thorn]

By drunken princess?

[young socket]

no

[dusk laurel]

statis

[young socket]

statis

[dusk laurel]

braelor's gay

[lunar thorn]

I was gonna ask if statis was a girl b/c I thought he was a guy

Is statis dead?

[young socket]

alive

[lunar thorn]

He hiding?

[dusk laurel]

yerp

[pulsar ocean]

Braelor n statis were trapped in Noxus's evil dark lair dimension

Statis got out

Braelor didnt

Braelor is probably somewhere out there drinking cosmilite idk

[lunar thorn]

So will Braelor be free after Noxus is beat?

[dusk laurel]

we can just rescue him afaik

[lunar thorn]

Yharim single for life on godhunting grindset?

[pulsar trellis]

not anymore

hes depressed now

[cloud ibex]

not officially confirmed but i like to imagine he's far too focused on the crusade to ever care about personal relationships yeah

he has yharon as his war crimes buddy and that's it

[lunar thorn]

Play single for life on Yharimhunting grindset?

*player

[split mortar]

The terrarian is your oc you get to decide

[lunar thorn]

Scal free now 👀

[split mortar]

Scal is aro ace

[dusk laurel]

arent you supposed to be asleep

[split mortar]

I felt a disturbance and came to answer the question related to the terrarian

[young socket]

go the FUCK to sleep

[split mortar]

WHY ARE YOU NOT ASLEEP HUH?

[young socket]

dont need it

[lunar thorn]

Sorry for giving you a disturbance in the force

[dusk laurel]

...

[split mortar]

What

[cloud ibex]

she will always be since she doesn't want a relationship

[split mortar]

Do you share a timezone with me…

[pulsar trellis]

whats sleep? idk man sounds like u might have a medical condition

[lunar thorn]

@pulsar trellis my uncle has that

[pulsar trellis]

did you know that 100% of people who sleep will eventually die?

[split mortar]

Waow

[lunar thorn]

Give more wisdom!

[pulsar trellis]

together we can put an end to this

[young socket]

doesnt matter

[split mortar]

Did you kniw 100% of people who learn calamity lore eventually die

[split mortar]

YOU DO

[young socket]

you, young man, need to go to sleep

[pulsar trellis]

yes but its worth it

[split mortar]

How old are you to call me that

[young socket]

older than you

[split mortar]

Proof?

[young socket]

i just am

now go to sleep

[split mortar]

Nah i aint believing it

Terrarian image for sticker in this server when…

[pulsar trellis]

i can tell u my age but u gotta figure out the units. im 69, good luck.

[lunar thorn]

Is it lore accurate it that the player can date brimstone elemental? Heart of the elements?

[split mortar]

I think its above 10

[pulsar trellis]

ok good start

[split mortar]

They can try but thats like trying to date a wild animal iirc

Except silva the elementals are rather

Not smart

[lunar thorn]

Feed her Yharon Soul Fragments to get smart!

[pulsar trellis]

200 iq move get this man his nobel prize

[split mortar]

They have to be smart enough to do the god ascension ritual which only silva is iirc

[cloud ibex]

i'd imagine the Heart elementals are much less sentient than their boss/enemy counterparts if they're supposed to be more... pure, i guess?

[split mortar]

And the boss ones are already questionable in intelligence iirc

[cloud ibex]

like if they're closer to their "raw" elements they probably don't have as much in terms of actual sentience

[pulsar trellis]

we gave them the stupid drug to make them our minions

[lunar thorn]

"Draedon! I have a favor! Teacher her stuff!" - Terrarian

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/calamity-calamitymod-draedon-terraria-terraria-calamity-gif-27670621

:(

[pulsar trellis]

rip

[lunar thorn]

[cloud ibex]

i respect it even if it embed failed

[split mortar]

I take it you know the gif

[young socket]

yeah

obviously

[pulsar trellis]

heart of the elements 2: now with a side of exo prisms

[lunar thorn]

"Xeroc! I have a favor! Use primordial light magic to make her smart!" - Terrarian

[lunar thorn]

(After beating Noxus for him)

[cloud ibex]

i do on account of opening the link yes

[split mortar]

Lmao

[pulsar ocean]

Can I put an exo prism into the sponge to make the shield last forever

[split mortar]

Not ingame

[pulsar trellis]

i think it would probably break
its like if i dumped 2 megawatts into ur pc. yea it would be absurdly powerful for a short while but...

[lunar thorn]

Can I put exoprism in Nubulous core to it last forever on every hit?

[pulsar trellis]

exos prob have a control mechanism to limit the amount of exo energy they pull so they dont explode themselves

[pulsar ocean]

❌ doesn't run on energy

[lunar thorn]

No artificial godmode

[pulsar trellis]

why doesn't it run on energy? is it stupid?

[pulsar ocean]

Fr

[lunar thorn]

best calamity waifu material lore wise?

[light linden]

[lunar thorn]

woaw

[solar wharf]

braelor

[long bloom]

true...

[pliant ruin]

armored digger

its armored digger

[rain thorn]

so it says "re-enchantment of Aerialite" but like who (or what) caused the Aerialite to be disenchanted in the first place

[lunar thorn]

[pliant ruin]

We don't know as of the moment

It'll likely be revealed later, but it is associated with Evil2 in some way

[lunar thorn]

Is Providence from space?

[cloud ibex]

no

[robust osprey]

none of the cal characters are from space

besides deus I think

and none of them reached it

[lunar thorn]

Are the dragons like elementals since the dragons seem to have power over aspects of the world?

[robust osprey]

auric dragons are from earth

iirc they were average dragons until earth soul shattered and they got fragments of it

[pliant ruin]

No, elementals are separate

Auric dragons simply have powers over a specific domain

Elementals are literally the embodiment of their domain

The auric dragon of flame can wield fire as it's ability

The fire elemental is Literally The Physical Manifestation of Fire

Elementals also are functionally immortal, while Dragons, evidently, can be killed

[robust osprey]

wait I realized I misundertood the questiom

smh

[lunar thorn]

ok

👍

Is Scal meant to be stronger than the player when we fight her but we just dodge long enough to outlast her? If not didn't fight Exos first?

[pliant holly]

i mean i think shes just abt to die and that was her only choice

[lunar thorn]

Do you mean 'just about to die' as in before the fight? for at the end when she's to tired to fight anymore?

[robust osprey]

she could recast shield spell

she just wanted to stop fighting

she realized you aren't yharim 2

[pliant holly]

yeah idk

[robust osprey]

I don't think she was tired tbh

like the girl just evaporated a whole kingdom in a fucking week

she IS durable

[pliant holly]

Cant she just have heated up the arena like an oven

and just melt us

[robust osprey]

arena can easily be just gameplay

I saw a theory from melon I think? but its not confirmed to be actually a thing that happens in-lore

[lunar thorn]

Terrarian needs to take Scal to therapy after the story is over

[robust osprey]

the hard part is doing that without getting incinerated

or keep the therapist alive

[lunar thorn]

Ice-Mage?

[robust osprey]

😔

[pliant holly]

is there any lore about how scal can enchant weapons or is it just wizard make stuff magical

[robust osprey]

uuh not sure

we only know that sepulcher has something to do with DoG's future thanks to metastasis' desc

[lunar thorn]

feel bad for DoG now

[robust osprey]

he's a bitch

totally deserved

[pliant holly]

agreed

[lunar thorn]

All the souls / essence he "consumed" and gave to Noxus flood back into him and destroy his soul/body?

[robust osprey]

no fucking idea

it will just end like sepulcher somehow

[lunar thorn]

That'd be metal if it did after Noxus is defeated

[robust osprey]

probably more info in sso

[lunar thorn]

can anyone just ask to buy stuff from Draedon if they can find him since he's not working for Yharim anymore?

[pliant holly]

i mean sure but it’s probably very expensive

[manic coral]

better question

what would money do for him

[pliant holly]

absolutely nothing except paying his bee slaves

[robust osprey]

he can either fabricate or extract himself everything he needs

[gaunt sluice]

My headcanon is she literally emotionally has no more hatred to fuel her magic so she can't fight anymore

[pliant holly]

what if the real next update was the friends we made along the way

[gaunt sluice]

and also the fact that we beat the hell out of her

[lunar thorn]

@gaunt sluice odd title for an update

[robust osprey]

I mean

you actually do 0 damage to her

[gaunt sluice]

we have like a sword that cuts the fabric of reality

[pliant holly]

she walks away unscathed lol

[gaunt sluice]

i think a few hits may have landed

[robust osprey]

shield carries

[gaunt sluice]

either way she burned out all her magic

[lunar thorn]

Old shield was metal eye-shell

[robust osprey]

and if a single hit of that fabric of reality-cutting sword lands on her

she would get oneshoted probably

she isnt that durable without shield iirc

[gaunt sluice]

welp that's a good point

on the other hand the npc has the same health as boss without shield

[robust osprey]

she has her shield just invisible

same with perma

[gaunt sluice]

forcible social distancing sphere

[robust osprey]

I heard perma has less hp since he can control his magic better and Scal needs to go all out or nothing

but idk if that wss a headcanon so

don take it as canon

[gaunt sluice]

it did say at some point that she was mostly unable to cast normal spells just cause her brimstone magic is so powerful

[pliant holly]

but what if you use the one engame yoyo (i forgot the name) on the universe shes in because the desc says “destroy the universe in the blink of an eye” soooooo technically shield also go bye bye

[lunar thorn]

Scal just chill at Terrarian house with friends, gets ride of tax collector so not landlord tyranny

[gaunt sluice]

what yo yo is that

[pliant holly]

the azzoth thingy

idk how to spell it

[lunar thorn]

Azathoth

[gaunt sluice]

i always put like at least a half effort into her house

everyone else has squares

[lunar thorn]

Squaremageddon 🤣

[calm patio]

thats a hyperbole iirc

same for the supernova

[pliant holly]

arent most tool tips hyperboles like aruic bar, solar fragments, and the list goes on

[gaunt sluice]

yea

[calm patio]

yes

[gaunt sluice]

reality scissors probly exaggerating as well then now that I think about it

I love how throughout the game you go from fighting large slimes to fighting literal gods to fighting dragons

and then the final boss is a traumatized homeless woman in her late 20s

[pulsar trellis]

most chill rpg powerscaling be like

[pliant holly]

isnt dog a multidimensional creature

[gaunt sluice]

eh hes from the distortion

[pulsar trellis]

well not multidimensional hes just from a different dimension

[calm patio]

no

[pliant holly]

i confused the Apotheosis desc with dog lore item

[gaunt sluice]

rip

[lunar thorn]

Can Yharim cut through Scal's shield?

[frank basalt]

So what is the torch god

[tepid timber]

Torch

[eager bluff]

carbon monoxide poisoning

[robust osprey]

unclear

some entity

definetly not a god

MAYBE worshipped as one by some unknown group

[lunar thorn]

"Yharim! You missed one!" - Scal says mockingly to Yharim on his death bed. "You missed the Torch God! AHAHA! And he calles himself The Godseeker! AHAAH!"

[limpid saddle]

Yharim gently weeps as he presses the 'billions must die' button at his bedside table, detonating a 200 nonillion joule bomb given to him by Draedon, destroying the planet

When later asked by Xeroc why Draedon gave him the bomb, he replied "I didn't think he was going to use it"

[glacial rampart]

carbon monoxide

[frank basalt]

can solo the verse just by that

[split mortar]

Are you sure? I doubt the shield is just some easy to cast spell for scal since it lasts ages in the figjf

[split mortar]

And we are at the same level as her

[split mortar]

Dev items arent canon

[gritty kraken]

Peak fiction

[hoary berry]

[split mortar]

Its in the wild

[pulsar ocean]

who's

[topaz shard]

me, im a melee main

my name is thumgnus and im the discoverer of torches

[scenic olive]

Hi there

My name is John Wulfrum

You're entering the range of my domain

[mighty zenith]

[scenic olive]

for exactly 3 minutes and 21 seconds anyone who stayed in my domain are effectively turned into Wulfrum scrap

[calm patio]

No.

[scenic olive]

Do you think Yharim can outlast Scal

by just tanking and dodging hits

Until she just tire herself out

[pulsar ocean]

Ogscule

:ogscule:

[robust osprey]

Scal would enter rage super saiyan 999 mode if she sees yharim so either yharim dies or she gets tired faster

or run away

thats also an option probably

[split mortar]

Anger to the point of losing focus is generally not a good thing for a fight

And yeah scal would just prob run over fughting

[robust osprey]

yeah yharim has all the odds of winning if she even fights

[pulsar ocean]

Is that a Jojo reference

[cloud ibex]

💥

[lunar thorn]

If Yharim was planning on fighting Scal he probably has better dodging equipment than the player

[scenic olive]

Wat if

Yharim keep chasing her

[lunar thorn]

So maybe he could dodge Scal better than use? But I'd imagine him just charging like a bull with a big super sword at her

[scenic olive]

Assuming that he can

[scenic olive]

I doubt it

Hes not the type to dodge things

he more like

"he hits you, what're you going to do?"
"hit him harder!"

[lunar thorn]

So since Yharim has Exo upgrades to his armor, when the player fights him with I assume Exo or Shadowflame armor, would the player and Yharim be equal in equipment strength?

I'm wondering if lore wise we're meant to be weaker than him when we fiight him and just dodge long enough to get enough hits in on him

[scenic olive]

Strength wise

Were weaker

but as for Weapon

Ours probably Exceeds Yharim

if he wields our weapon were probably cooked

[lunar thorn]

I want his one-shot sword in exchange for letting him live, (bro also gets a sweet box house next to Scal, who wouldn't agree?).

[cloud ibex]

he probably wouldn't

[lunar thorn]

It's like when you find the coolest stick in the woods every guy wants it

[split mortar]

Scal would just leave if you spared yharim

[lunar thorn]

She doesn't have to know, Terrarian can lie about it and let Yharim die by old age in secret Draedon luxury suite.

[cloud ibex]

again, i doubt yharim wants that

[lunar thorn]

He just doesn't wanna live?

[cloud ibex]

he's willing to let himself die so he can become a martyr that catalyzes the crusade's revival through you

[lunar thorn]

If that's the case the Terrarian can just say when reading Cynosure, "Eh, you're not gonna do anything anyway. I'm not risking my life on this. If you wanna fight you come get ME. Not wasting my time. Peace."

meme ending

[scenic olive]

I dont think his weapons are stronger than ours

[lunar thorn]

Does Yharim have enough zealots who believe in the crusade anymore after doing nothing for a while?

[scenic olive]

He one shots us

Not because of the weapon

But because hes Yharim

hes just that goated fr

[lunar thorn]

fr fr

[cloud ibex]

probably a few

not enough for the crusade to actually keep going though

[lunar thorn]

If he wants us to continue the crusade as Yharim 2, I'd assume he'd want his zealots to be on our side. Unless he thinks we'll just make something up about the event to win them over and keep it going.

Also, is the Terrarian old? Did he take a long time to get to the point of rivaling Yharim?

[stoic gulch]

You know what they say

The terrarians lore is up to you!!

[lunar thorn]

If I was going to continue the crusade, I'd want a sit down with Yharim about solving the issue of aging so we don't have to keep getting successors to continue it.

@stoic gulch

[stoic gulch]

No but seriously

Terrarians lore is

Uhh

[lunar thorn]

up to Scal, indeed!

Is the Dragon Aerie meant to be a pocket dimension? And is why Draedon can't reach it?

or in one

[split mortar]

The only defined thing for the terrarian is that they suck at naming

[split mortar]

Its uh
Kinda that? Might be warping space around ut to the point that it functionally is a pocket dimension we dont knoe for sure i think

[lunar thorn]

domain expansion

infinite rizz

I mean! Dragon Aerie

Is Yharim meant to be around the height of a npc b/c he's human?

[split mortar]

Yharim is little over 4 blocks tall

1 block being 2 foot

[lunar thorn]

is that because its just how the artists planned him? Or also because he's in big armor and took Yharim's Stimulants for human growth hormones to get bigger?

[split mortar]

Yharims little over 8 foot without armour iirc
iirc theyre closer to 9 foot with armour

[lunar thorn]

rolled high on life with that one! just ignore the lava scars

[split mortar]

And yharim isnt lanky or thin theyre built

Ima grab a rebdition of them compared to scal

[lunar thorn]

Ooo nice!

[scenic olive]

Kill them all

[scenic olive]

i'd start stacking bodies of the zealots

then id challenge Noxus

and win

cuz im just that guy

[lunar thorn]

Scal's as tall as me! Yharim looks like a Nephilim with that height

[split mortar]

Theres been irl people taller then yharim
Tho they dont be buff and built unlike yharim…

[scenic olive]

how did he get so strong

how many pushups

how many situps

what juice did he drink

[split mortar]

Enough push ups and sit ups

[lunar thorn]

My grandfather's friend told me that there was a man in germany born with a genetic flaw that shrunk the part of the brain that regulated how much muscle man you can have. The baby was born with definition, and that man became an body builder. So its possible for insane people to be cooked up, apparently.

[split mortar]

Yharim worked possibly the most out of any character for their power

iirc

[scenic olive]

what about Xeroc

in his training arc

[split mortar]

Hence why i said possibly and not definitely

[lunar thorn]

I can see The Epic of Gilgamesh being writtend about Yharim!

Terrarian: smol yharim

[limpid saddle]

5'11 vs 6'0

[split mortar]

So true

[lunar thorn]

@split mortar So true

[split mortar]

Mods
Rename ace of conquest to ace of banned

[lunar thorn]

So I know the Lore about Terrarian is ment to be up to the player, but I find it funny that Scal just lives next door chillin

Not that I don't like having her as a npc, she's dope

I'd be funny if Yharim was a npc, and they both end up having no interact buttons if next to each other, -100 happiness

[split mortar]

We dont get ti spare yharim

In game

[deft vessel]

🔥✍️

[lunar thorn]

Do I get his helmet? Ancient auric helmet?

[split mortar]

If you wear that youd die

[lunar thorn]

too heavy for my unyoked neck, not enough training

[scenic olive]

auric rejection

[split mortar]

No not that

[split mortar]

This

[scenic olive]

auric shouldnt be heavy though

it floats

[split mortar]

The armour will literally implode you

[lunar thorn]

So forever museum material

[scenic olive]

Auric dragons can wear Auric

[split mortar]

Idk what game you olaying yharon dont look humanoid to me

[lunar thorn]

So is auric rejection like the every individual owner's safeguard?

[split mortar]

No

[cloud ibex]

((you'll probably get it as a mask (or maybe even his whole armor set) but that'll be more of a gameplay non canon thing

[split mortar]

You know how auric ore throws you around if you touch it?

[scenic olive]

doesnt need to be human though

[split mortar]

Thats auric rejection

[split mortar]

Yharims armour is humanoid…

[scenic olive]

just melt the auric plates

make one for dragon

[lunar thorn]

So does the player dilute the auric(ness) of the bars when crafting by mixing the bars with other materials so he doesn't die when putting on the armor?

[scenic olive]

they merge the metal with the auric soul

[split mortar]

Nah
We use the yharon soul fragments to trick the metal to thinking everything is allowed to touch it

[scenic olive]

well

[scenic olive]

we kinda nullify its repelling properties

[split mortar]

Yeah thats what i said?

[scenic olive]

Mock attuned Auric

[lunar thorn]

so if Yharim touch me on the shoulder i'd explode?

[split mortar]

Those properties only pop up if the metal contacts something it deems not allowed

[scenic olive]

yeah im saying that because its a nerf

[split mortar]

Yes

[scenic olive]

to the real auric

real Auric probably can also nullify Blunt Forces due to its ability to repel things

[lunar thorn]

So we nerf the power of the auric armor to be able to put it one at all?

*on at all

[scenic olive]

well unless you want to die so yes

[cloud ibex]

yes

[lunar thorn]

And Yharim doesn't have to nullify his armor b/c blessed by Yharon?

[cloud ibex]

correct

[split mortar]

Attuned to yharon but yeah

[cloud ibex]

well, not blessed

he's attuned

which is also how he's lived for as long as he has

[split mortar]

Yharims good enough friends with yharon they get the auric pass basically

[scenic olive]

i cant believe it

will Yharim give us the A-pass

[lunar thorn]

And that's why its better to use Shadowflame or Exo armor against Yharim than auric b/c our auric is not as good

If we kill Xeroc, so no

[scenic olive]

Auric is pretty good because its lightweight and durable

[split mortar]

Rebecca corrected us and said exo and demonshade would be roughly equal to the auric

[lunar thorn]

So demon and exo are just other options out there?

[scenic olive]

Exo has the advantage of tech

and demonshade is just

dark magic n shit

[split mortar]

Supreme witch magic fuckery

[scenic olive]

i like that

despite made of the materials we got from scal

[lunar thorn]

I'd be cool if Scal enchanted the armor for us, "Be safe! And kick Yharim into the dirt!"

[scenic olive]

it can probably match real Auric

depends on the player i guess

[lunar thorn]

Imagine Terrarian appoaches Yharim with no armor, "don't need it!" (no hits)

That Exo looks so dope!

[hoary berry]

this message (and conversation in general) has made me think that
i kind of want to write something about Yharim's armour: a headcanon about how he acquired it; how his battles before and after acquiring it differed; how long it took for him to get over its unfamiliarity and become a better fighter with it; his thoughts on it as a symbol as well as a tool; etc.

[scenic olive]

Yharim first iteration of Armor

its just casted Auric with his barehands

then u see massive improvement made by Draedon

[split mortar]

iirc isnt there a statement saying yharim got their armour from someone/something else?

Ima look

[warped rapids]

i love the idea of exo auric i hope yharims armour has some techy ness to it when he gets implemented

[lunar thorn]

casting by hand

[split mortar]

Ok think false memory moment

[scenic olive]

Yharlaser

[hoary berry]

cei has said that yharim's armour wasn't made for him

which

implies he got it from somewhere or someone else

[dusk laurel]

yeah he took some time to get used to the armor

since it wasnt made for him

[hoary berry]

and it makes sense because he's the only person who could've worked directly with auric and he isn't really a blacksmith

probably... yharim's secret backstory

[late veldt]

Oh wow

[hoary berry]

random ass blacksmith

has no bearing on the crusade at all, he just was one

[split mortar]

Who the FUCK was so built and tall that yharim had to work out and get used to the armour

[limpid saddle]

Presumably he took it off the corpse of a dragon monk or something & then re-forged it himself to fit his luscious mane

[hoary berry]

i do actually wonder if like

[late veldt]

maybe the armor was made for Yharon's draconic era monk?

[hoary berry]

yharim had a job before the Crusade

[split mortar]

@deft vessel

[limpid saddle]

well he was a cultist

[hoary berry]

like an actual formal job, not just responsibilities

[limpid saddle]

So presumably not, though given he was chosen to become a God, definetly not

[hoary berry]

because office worker turned warmonger would be a crazy twist

[late veldt]

Yheren is in fact who caused me to have that thought

[limpid saddle]

His youth was probably just getting groomed & combat training

[hoary berry]

holy shit...

yheren is canon

woah we

[late veldt]

Yheren canon 2025

[hoary berry]

don't have a yheren emote

[split mortar]

Yheren canooooon

[split mortar]

Sad emoji

[dusk laurel]

im putting you all in iron lungs

[hoary berry]

i will steal your ice cream

[split mortar]

Thatl break the lungs
Organs arebt that big

[late veldt]

I mean that could be in the same vein as "it took some time to get used to being a severe burn victim in a suit of life support armor"

[hoary berry]

obviously just a joke, but i do wonder what his daily life was like

[late veldt]

The only allusion he makes to his own past is in the blood moon lore item

[dusk laurel]

he was in his parent's basement

[split mortar]

It was just armour why the life support

[late veldt]

where he says he remembers spending many sleepless blood moons culling the undead

[hoary berry]

dragon monk simulator 1768

[late veldt]

lava bath

[split mortar]

The terrarian can go in lava and live fine

[late veldt]

Yharim was notably not fine, by his own account I believe

[split mortar]

Skill issue

[deft vessel]

canon 💯

[pliant ruin]

I think at this point with draedon around and yharim's attunement with yharon he's probably healed from most of his wounds

so i don't think the armor is life support

[split mortar]

Pluh

[pliant ruin]

Like my guy could've just asked draedon for surgery, that is if the attunement by itself wouldn't heal him, that is if he couldn't just like, heal himself with magic and potions n shit

there's alot of ways he could've healed his body from the lava bath

[scenic olive]

What if

It was Xerocs armor

Before he ascended

[split mortar]

Yharim would prob like
Not use it

[cosmic sandal]

could you imagine being dradeon, creating 3 robots with a good amount of power (the mechincal trio) and have them be outclassed by a plant

[cloud ibex]

he's probably pretty indifferent about it

[split mortar]

The robots are fuelled by souls
The plant is fuelled by a lot more souls

[cosmic sandal]

its funny to imagine he was immensely pissed off

[cloud ibex]

there's a lot of Fucked Up Creatures in the world

i doubt he'd be surprised that some of his creations end up being weaker than them

[cosmic sandal]

it just feels funny that his machines got outclassed by a plant

even if thats strawmanning plantera

its still funny to imagine

[cloud ibex]

if it were the exos? maybe, but the normal mechs likely wasn't exactly a passion project of his

[young socket]

also

[cloud ibex]

just another thing yharim requested of him

[cosmic sandal]

i imagine the mechanical trip as a proof of concept for dradeon

[young socket]

the mechs individually are weaker than plant

not them together

[split mortar]

Hell the destroyer is just a repurposed different machine filled with souls

[robust osprey]

and all of them get low diffed by big shark

(fishron)

[cosmic sandal]

listen duke has steroids

[robust osprey]

big pig shork

[split mortar]

They get no diffed by old pig shark (old duke)

[cosmic sandal]

could you imagine being providence, an immensely powerful goddess and an old as fuck fish is stronger than you

i’d pack it up and leave

[robust osprey]

be a god and a random sea creature outclasses you

am I talking about sg and as or provi and od?

[cosmic sandal]

imagine being a being literally called the “devourer of gods” and a creature attracted by teleportation energy could beat you

[robust osprey]

tbf jared is turbo busted by silva

[cosmic sandal]

all aura lost immediately

[robust osprey]

dog already had negative aura

[cosmic sandal]

this dude got wounded in a past fight!

[split mortar]

Jared until recently has been the strongest being in the planet
Also that tp magic is actually primordial light

[pliant ruin]

DoG has negative aura it's true

i wonder how a fight beetween Old Duke and DoG would go

like, yeah, naturally, DoG would win in most instances, but how close would it be

I reckon it'd be pretty damn close

Heck, if DoG couldn't access his armor i'm p sure OD could win

[languid badge]

how does od hurt dog back

[robust osprey]

MY CHILDREN!! ATTACK!!!!!

[pliant ruin]

i mean the same way it hurts you

[languid badge]

not to mention
od isn't really known for prolonged combat
dog could feasably just wait out the old ass mf

[pliant ruin]

it can bite, it can summon bigass tornadoes and shit, spit acid

[robust osprey]

and slavery

[languid badge]

at no point does old duke spit acid

[pliant ruin]

He's the acid guy he has acid projectiles yg wim

Also yeah slavery

don't forget that part

[robust osprey]

he has children to defend himself when hes tires

[split mortar]

Projectile slavery

[pliant ruin]

Old Duke definitely could put up a rly damn good fight against DoG imo

in most circumstances, DoG wins, but i'd say there are situations where OD might be the victor

Specially in the hypothetical DoG dosen't have his armor somehow

[limpid saddle]

Do you think if he slapped DoG into the Sulphuric Sea he would get the edge on him