lore-discussion

[split mortar]

Terminus is made of aerie rock

Mana is stored in the bones

They refuse to tell us the secrets of what makes blague plating

The sun is colder then the magma in azafure

The sun orbits the planet

Before xeroc ascended the sun was a lot harsher

[young socket]

this has been a thing longer than a year

[visual kiln]

also this is interesting for many reasons

Continue tho 🙏

[split mortar]

Idk exactly when was said so im just dumping random info

[young socket]

lol

it was said in 23 iirc

late 23

[visual kiln]

n thank ^^

[split mortar]

Signus likely outranks dog

And maybe even equals noxus in hierarchy

[visual kiln]

post dog signus 🥺

move the creatures

[split mortar]

Signus is possessing statis during the fight and the fight is a deal with signus

[limpid saddle]

oh hes gonna be at the same tier

[limpid saddle]

& thats only gonna be implemented when Statis actually exists

[dusk laurel]

no

[split mortar]

Still a thing we know

[dusk laurel]

signus will still be pre dog

:p

[limpid saddle]

yes

thats what i said

[visual kiln]

whyyy

[split mortar]

You said same tier as dog

[limpid saddle]

i meant same as in 'it will remain the same'

[visual kiln]

ok at least move the other sentinels

[split mortar]

Old duke enslaves children

[visual kiln]

🙏

[limpid saddle]

why would they do that

[split mortar]

Folly may become an event

[dusk laurel]

they probably will

[dusk laurel]

why not

explain

[split mortar]

The pillars helped moonlord fught the dragons

[young socket]

because all the distortion creatures being in a row is extremely boring

[limpid saddle]

Ceaseless Void cant get moved because he's how you get into the Distortion, & the Distortion is how you're gonna fight DoG

[dusk laurel]

currently theyre all on the same tier

[visual kiln]

bc its literally 3 bosses at the same tier rn and they step on each other’s toes bc of that

[limpid saddle]

I think it's fun

[dusk laurel]

cv wont be moved

[split mortar]

Half of dogs fight is in the distortion

[limpid saddle]

You gotta go in for the Distortion gauntlet

[spare pier]

We actually had an extensive discussion about this and the solution was basically

[dusk laurel]

boring

[spare pier]

CV Post ML, Weaver Post Providence, Signus Post Polter

[pliant ruin]

Weaver is being moved to immediately post ml maybe

Nvm

[visual kiln]

🙏

[split mortar]

Thanks

[pliant ruin]

Rev changed her mind

[visual kiln]

ok that works :3

[pliant ruin]

Reb

Reb

Revengeancr

[spare pier]

Weaver is very hard to move due to having so many drops

[split mortar]

Revaengence changed their mind

[pliant ruin]

@visual kiln meiw

Meow

Ok bye

[young socket]

furina changed her mind

[visual kiln]

continue btw

[visual kiln]

MEOW

[limpid saddle]

arent polterghast & DoG at the same tier

[spare pier]

No

[visual kiln]

makes sense

[young socket]

no what

[light linden]

hi rebecca

[split mortar]

Old duke is pre dog and theyre post polter

[spare pier]

Hello

[visual kiln]

also hii reb how u :3

[split mortar]

If we lose to signus then we become another vessel or guy in debt to them and if we win we may free statis from their influence?

[limpid saddle]

I thought because you got access to the Distortion bosses after Providence those were the next direct step then Polterghast & DoG were on the same level

[split mortar]

Nah

Distortion guys
Then polter
Then old duke
Then dog

[split mortar]

That entails old duke is post dog

[spare pier]

I'm good

[limpid saddle]

I thought Old Duke was also pre-polter

[split mortar]

Theyre the final boss of t3 acid rain

Which only happens post polter

[pulsar ocean]

what if signus legally changed his name to sigmus

[limpid saddle]

I suppose I simply see them on a similar scale

[pulsar ocean]

old duke is meant to be fought pre dog

[visual kiln]

is there more thing ?

[pulsar ocean]

heh sigmus is a pushover so ts will NEVER happen

idk who even let that loser in the distortion'

[limpid saddle]

you know he's getting massively reworked right

[pulsar ocean]

yes?

[limpid saddle]

& he has a big scary sword now

[pulsar ocean]

i thought that was just a resprite

[limpid saddle]

No it's a full rework

[visual kiln]

also otonilou being the reason for exo prisms having infinite energy is rlly interesting bc it implies one of two things

one

[limpid saddle]

well the sea prisms really

[pulsar ocean]

cant we just make exo prisms by punching sea prisms real hard

[limpid saddle]

No you dumbass

[pliant ruin]

That's rude don't be rude

[limpid saddle]

Draedon makes them by lining the prisms with indents like circuitry & then adding the materials we do to it

[visual kiln]

either exo prisms and sea prisms r just getting energy from otonilou, implying either theres a limited power throughput n a point where otonilou’s power isnt able to regenerate fast enough to keep up with the demand, or that the power the sea prisms draw on is finite and at some point will run out

[limpid saddle]

Which presumably is done through a precision laser & not a fist

[visual kiln]

alternatively gods can just create energy

which like

how tf did she lose to calamitas then

[limpid saddle]

Apparently the sea prisms themselves create energy

[young socket]

i think sea prisms r connected to the world soul like god souls r

[pulsar ocean]

punchs sea prisms in a really precise way

[robust osprey]

FLAT EARTH BELIEVERS RISE

[young socket]

so they arent infinite we just cant see where its coming from

[spare pier]

Output can be limited

[limpid saddle]

Rebecca I believe said that similarly to how- oh shes explaining it now

[mighty zenith]

blep

[young socket]

also ye they have a limited output or else exos would be omegashitversal or smtnn

[pliant ruin]

Sea prisms are constantly electrified but in very small amounts iirc

[spare pier]

If you had a laser pointer that never stopped firing, that's still a laser pointer that can't damage a person

[visual kiln]

valid but also she should be able to like store power for later no ?

did she not do that

[pliant ruin]

Exo prisms are sea prisms carved in a way that maximizes their constant output

[spare pier]

Guess what she was using that power for?

:p

[visual kiln]

skull

[mighty zenith]

i had a minor panic attack seeing the words "guess" and "power" in one sentence

[spare pier]

Either way, I'm not saying you are right, but even if she can create energy

[pulsar ocean]

can batman beat yharim

[spare pier]

That's not an automatic win

[visual kiln]

ok so does otonilou being dead imply sea prism power will run out?

[visual kiln]

yeah valid

[pliant ruin]

I assume it's connected to the world soul in some way

[visual kiln]

what shape is that

[pliant ruin]

Idk exo prism shape

[limpid saddle]

like circuitry

[young socket]

accordinf to draedon its very small shit

[limpid saddle]

we dont have an exact shape

[visual kiln]

would it be one that maximises surface area to volume

[pliant ruin]

Idk

[young socket]

i dont remember the exact wording but draedon says so in draetalk

[pulsar ocean]

yeah i think thats possible to cut out by hand

[young socket]

leg me pull it up

[split mortar]

They are also supercharged like a star not just carved

[pliant ruin]

There's like a bunch of tiny grooves u cant see on the sprite

It's very precise stuff

Like a computer chip

[young socket]

The Ilmeran crystals that you know as "Sea Prisms" are self-illuminating and provide a weak electric charge indefinitely, even when tapped by circuitry. Etching the crystals with conduction pathways at the molecular level and providing an initial energy impulse, not unlike igniting a newborn star, transforms them into a facsimile of the Exo Prisms you are familiar with.

so etching them = more output, and the extra energy turns em into the exo prisms, that have the exotic resonance stuff

[visual kiln]

actually that makes sense

[pulsar ocean]

how do we combine allat by hand

[visual kiln]

if the crystal is producing energy then like

[high lynx]

Strong

[young socket]

also yea i think so too

[robust osprey]

mash them together with hammers

[visual kiln]

u wanna have contact with as much of it as possible so as little of the crystal’s energy output is lost

do the etchings extend to the inside of the crystal?

bc that’s what’d make sense

[split mortar]

Knowing draedon i wouldnt be surprised but idk if we know for sure

[visual kiln]

imo

[high lynx]

Almost certainly

[pulsar ocean]

is the power in miracle matter more infinite than the infinite power in exo prisms

[young socket]

maybe? draedon uses his forge to make em n its pretty advanced

[high lynx]

Jus different

[split mortar]

Nope, same output

[high lynx]

Its a bunch of different things

Where did i read that something draedon made is like how they made braelors axe

Was it exo mechs or miracle matter

[split mortar]

Thanatos is made like that

[limpid saddle]

???

[pulsar ocean]

where did statis get shadow limbs

[limpid saddle]

onyx kinsmen magic probably

[split mortar]

We dunno
Prob signus who knows

[pulsar ocean]

does statis feel phantom pain

[limpid saddle]

why would he steal his limbs then gave him fake limbs

[limpid saddle]

what are these questions kozz

[pulsar ocean]

what

[visual kiln]

p

[limpid saddle]

are you setting up for an mgsv joke or

[high lynx]

p

[split mortar]

Considering how reb described it i imagine it is signus related

[limpid saddle]

why would he not feel phantom pain

his limbs were ripped off

[split mortar]

They have the limbs there its not phantom

[young socket]

i had a good idea

[split mortar]

Just

[limpid saddle]

thats kinda how it happens in the first place

[split mortar]

Shadow limbs

[visual kiln]

what if signus and noxus were fragments of some bigger entity

[pulsar ocean]

no

[limpid saddle]

what?

The Distortion & Moon Lord are eintierly disconnected

[pulsar ocean]

moon lord is moon lord

fovos is fovos

[visual kiln]

right im stupid

[pulsar ocean]

came from the squid dimension

[high lynx]

Those who knows

[limpid saddle]

Not even a different dimension

[visual kiln]

srry gang im dum dum

[split mortar]

We dunno what moonlords deal is so we cant disregard it possibly being from there

[limpid saddle]

The Distortion is a fold in space

[pulsar ocean]

is xeroc 4d or 5d

[limpid saddle]

it's an impossible little crevice

[limpid saddle]

3d

[high lynx]

2d

Is pixel

[limpid saddle]

true...

[split mortar]

3d

[young socket]

so, if sea prisms do use the world soul for their electricity, then we can think of that as sea prisms accessing the "electricity" domain of the world soul

what if the energy pouring part of exo prism creation makes whatever connection the sea prisms have to the world soul go "haywire" in a sense, and let them access all the domains of the world soul, eventually leading to unstable miracle matter due to all the domains mixingwhen enough energy is poured into them

[pulsar ocean]

can xeroc make the sun emit no heat so everyone on the surface freezes to death

[split mortar]

We dunno

[young socket]

if theyre skilled enough yea

[visual kiln]

what if xeroc eats the sun and merges with it

[pulsar ocean]

his mouth is not that big

[visual kiln]

also possibly true ?

[split mortar]

With how draedon explained it
Miracle matter when unstable is just normal matter getting torn apart by exotic resonance at high output
Also miracle blight is a electric debuff i believe

[young socket]

typeless

[split mortar]

Ah

[pulsar ocean]

so slime god can stop being a floating sludge ball but they just dont want to

[split mortar]

Nah

Silva can because elemental

[young socket]

also draedon states smthn about the exo prisms actuating with all the external stimuli from the battle

[split mortar]

Slime god was just a femboy who ascended

[pulsar ocean]

i forgot did silva kill any innocent dragons

[split mortar]

They ascended

[limpid saddle]

well genderfluid

[split mortar]

We dunno if life is innocent

[split mortar]

They have also been said ti be a femboy

Genderfluid femboy idk

[visual kiln]

wtf

[limpid saddle]

what

[dusk laurel]

praying for sso

its gonna be so [REDACTED] ...

[visual kiln]

sso caves and cliffs

[pulsar ocean]

yharim bars

add yharim bars

[long gate]

Arent auric bars yharim bars

[young socket]

no

[pulsar ocean]

no

[long gate]

Or you mean yharim chocolate bars

Protein bars even

[long gate]

Doesnt yharim use auric armor tho

[split mortar]

Exo auric armour is whats used

[long gate]

Damn wtf

[young socket]

yharim bars are yharim bars

[long gate]

Never saw that ever 😔

Isnt that just luminite

[dusk laurel]

fandom wiki my behated

[pulsar ocean]

no thats yharim bars

[long gate]

Oh i see

I am enlightened now 🙏

[split mortar]

Looks more like titanium

[long gate]

True

But ir looks more like yharim bars

[pulsar ocean]

what if i send draedon death threats so he makes me miracle auric armor

[long gate]

Isnt there exo prism armor or smthn

[robust osprey]

gemtech is dedicated content

therefore non canon

[long gate]

😔

Miracle matter is awesome i NEED that armor

[robust osprey]

there will be arsenal sets in a future, inluding exo armor

[long gate]

Yippie 🥳

[sinful adder]

Could just barely beat everyone except Xeroc and Noxus, yharim and the other bosses around his level could tank anything less than a nuke

[long gate]

Providence?

[robust osprey]

I dont think provi can eat nukes

[split mortar]

Yharim is tanking nukes

[robust osprey]

like high power nukes

[pulsar ocean]

dog swallows her whole and a nuke no diffs dog

[long gate]

Gg

[sinful adder]

Providence too. It would be very difficult but nuclear bombs are insanely strong

[long gate]

Ehat about old duke lmao

[split mortar]

A single strong hit from deus is comparable to a nuke

[dusk laurel]

no?

[sinful adder]

There is a large range of power in what nuclear bombs can do. The ones we have these days are several times stronger than the first ones

[pulsar ocean]

no?

[robust osprey]

probably a really really really smal mini nuke

[pulsar ocean]

does that mean i can tank like 5 nukes

[sinful adder]

This is completely impossible, that amount of energy merely existing or being imparted on any object would create an explosion comparable to a nuclear weapon. At a certain point in energy, you can prove something must be below that level of power because the laws of physics demand it create an explosion by happening

[split mortar]

Deus does a feat that literally is comparable to a 800 kilotons nuke

[dusk laurel]

it threw a rock

[sinful adder]

It can't be. In other words: any action which releases energy comparable to a nuclear bomb must necessarily also heat the air so hot that it creates an explosion equal to a nuke.

[split mortar]

Im on about the astral meteor throw

[wheat walrus]

earthquakes release more energy than nukes but don't quite create the heat

:p

[sinful adder]

This is not true. Dropping a rock off a building doesn't mean you have the strength to make that rock go as fast as it reaches when it hits the ground, that's now how physics works

Anyways, gotta go

[wheat walrus]

still, this is fiction, the feat from astrum deus melon is talking about is how the meteor caused an earthquake that would require way more energy than it would've if it just fell naturally

energy, released in the form of shaking

[sinful adder]

This is untrue

[pulsar ocean]

do robots get affected by auric rejection

[light linden]

I mean

[wheat walrus]

is it

:p

[light linden]

do we know if it was a rock?

[sinful adder]

I know physics

[light linden]

could've just been a ball of mana that solidified after contact

[sinful adder]

You can nudge (or throw) a meteor out of its orbit with miniscule amounts of energy compared to what it has when it hits something, this is the reason humanity is capable of redirecting asteroids: we don't need to counter the entire energy of the astroid when it hits, we only need to give it a little nudge to adjust it's orbit

[young socket]

ur wrong and im right cuz i know physics

[wheat walrus]

this is fiction, that's true
the meteor was thrown, that's also true
it causes an earthquake that too is true
and lastly, the energy from a magnitude 4-5 earthquake caused by a meteor impact is more than the energy it would release on impact, had it fallen from gravity and not pushed by an external force (that is assuming 60000 kg, which is the weight of the heaviest meteor irl; keyword meteor and not asteroids, which the astral meteor is much smaller than)

[sinful adder]

Ok I really actually have to go now

[wheat walrus]

what about this is untrue, the one argument here is that if it actually released that much energy, that it would've been like a nuke, but that's not how fiction works in many of these cases where they have a powerful feat, but don't show it off 100% realistically because that's not the focus; an earthquake was still triggered by that impact, the energy released from an earthquake like that (I assumed 5, as it fit the description of said magnitude) is way more than the energy released by a meteor impact that's solely affected by gravity, thus implying that astrum deus' throw was important to it

:p

[lucid tundra]

could they even defeat dreadon what if he just hacks us

whats stopping him from getting the nuke codes😭

[dusk laurel]

he already has the nuke codes

he just doesnt use them

[lucid tundra]

is terrarian is also is an city level or something higher?

[dusk laurel]

[split mortar]

Using just ingame gear yeah

By endgame we are solidly in city level

Post ml is around when we start entering it

[pulsar ocean]

does yharim ever take off his armor to shower

[young socket]

no

[split mortar]

We dunno

Likely

[pulsar ocean]

likely he stinks like ass

[light linden]

I mean

he prolly has to do a lot more than shower, his skin is burnt really badly

[lucid tundra]

he doesnt even touches grass

[dusk laurel]

the grass gets eviscerated

[lucid tundra]

just drink a healing potion what a drama queen

[light linden]

his armor might honestly be like darth vader's

[magic epoch]

yharim when he learns of obsidian skin potion

[pulsar ocean]

why doesnt yharim just keep 30 obsidian skin potions in his piggy bank

is he stupid

[cosmic sandal]

can someone who knows the lore explain why providence is stronger at night? i always thought she’d be stronger at day

[dusk laurel]

not canon any longer

[split mortar]

The method of her enrage is changing

BUT

[cosmic sandal]

ah ok, it always felt weird how the goddess who hovers at the sun is weaker when its not in the sky

[split mortar]

Why she is stronger when enraged is that we give her the profaned core and she absorbs that power

[split mortar]

She isnt related to the sun anymore

Xeroc is the local sun deity

[cosmic sandal]

that damn old man

[lucid tundra]

also is normal terraria ml is stronger than calamity ml?

[split mortar]

Idk

[lucid tundra]

but but eol :(

[split mortar]

Eol aint a deity afaik

[cosmic sandal]

well the moonlord in calamity isnt cthulhu right?

so probably weaker

[pulsar ocean]

why didnt draedon make a mechanical brain

[split mortar]

That doesnt fully matter if theyre inspired by cthulhu or whatever
Since
What DO they actually do in terraria for feats?

[cosmic sandal]

heres my theory

the mechanical bosses just never had that stage, if they were more successful maybe he would of made a brain

[lucid tundra]

why would he need it?

[pulsar ocean]

idk to improve his engineering skills why not

[lucid tundra]

maybe blud was in a corruption biome

[cosmic sandal]

it does though, as we can say the moonlord is capable of the same feasts as love crafts would

[robust osprey]

moonlord's feats in cal are uuh killing around 50% or so of auric dragons and be alive after being cut in half, have its skull fucked up and missing a lot of organs

[cosmic sandal]

by all accords cthulhu isnt that notable in love craft, his feats are… alright?

[robust osprey]

it could even survive decapitation iirc

[pulsar ocean]

didnt cthulhu in lovecrafts story get pierced through literally by a normal boat

[robust osprey]

and vanilla moonlord's feats are....

uuuhhh...

killing a bunch of dryads

I think

[spare pier]

The Plague literally accomplishes the same goal

[split mortar]

Cthulhu is like multiversal or something due to being higher dimensional

[cosmic sandal]

yeah thats a theme, one of the strongest gods in love craft got defeated by a man looking through a gemstone

[cosmic sandal]

if im correct hes very not notable in the sphere hes in

[lucid tundra]

and also dreadon prob felt sad for us who would want a exo mech brain fight when we got death master brain fight

wrong ping sorry

[split mortar]

Just cause something isnt noteable in their verse dont mean they are not monstrous outside

[cosmic sandal]

see thats kinda the thing, cthulhu has feats that you genuinely need to read

[lucid tundra]

whats lovecraft

another game?

[cosmic sandal]

as some of his biggest ones are misconceptions

you dont go mad from looking at him, thats a giant misconception its if you cannot grasp his true form which isnt difficult

[cosmic sandal]

book good game bad

[split mortar]

Creator of cthulhu and many other iconic eldritch guys gals and pals

I think

[pulsar ocean]

lovecraft loves his craft

[lucid tundra]

talking about craft

could steve beat terrarian (normal terraria)

[split mortar]

Steve is like
Wall level ir something
If you dont tale game mechanics seriously

[pulsar ocean]

what if steve with a mace attacked the terrarian falling from space

[lucid tundra]

depends on the armor the terrarian is using ig

[pulsar ocean]

jack black no diffs the terrarian

[split mortar]

And if we do take game mechanics seriously

For terrarian

Then uh

Infinite water bucket

[lucid tundra]

i am calamitas

[cosmic sandal]

people forget steve and the terrian scale strength infinitely

though personally the “shulker box infinite strength” idea is terrible as you can say its a pocket dimension

[split mortar]

Abusing game mechanics yes

Lore wise

[lucid tundra]

not really they can carry inf items but still die to a zombie

[split mortar]

Uhh

[cosmic sandal]

lore wise hes strong, far above human but the terrarian is just stronger

[cosmic sandal]

exactly, if we want true comparison. steve can only life his inventory and the terrarian can lift more with nothing but a singular slot

powerscaling these games sucks anyway

[split mortar]

City to mountain ignoring headcanon

[cosmic sandal]

the terrarian is i’d argue planet,

[lucid tundra]

thats like saying marios stomps would kill everything as it makes a koopa shell spin inf where there is a friction exist

[split mortar]

Scal is city level

[cosmic sandal]

i love how dradeon is probably solar system because of how much he invents

[lucid tundra]

that means inf energy

[pulsar ocean]

no

[split mortar]

No?

[robust osprey]

no...

[limpid saddle]

He would be

[robust osprey]

solar system would likely low diff xeroc probably

[limpid saddle]

But there are inherent limits to the output of exo prisms

[pulsar ocean]

he would be if he made demonshade mechs

[limpid saddle]

& if he shoved too many in one robot & tried to use them, it would overload

[cosmic sandal]

dradeon is batman, you give him prep time and he’d probably win

and prep time is horrendous

[split mortar]

Draedon cant even get to the moon reliably

[cosmic sandal]

why would you wanna go to the moon though

[pulsar ocean]

draedon is like duplikate from the hit show invincible he just can shove a clone of himself somewhere no one ever will find it and be practically immortal

[split mortar]

Resources

Mine it

[cosmic sandal]

nah, the terraria world has enough

[pulsar ocean]

moon rocks make good surfaces for portals

[split mortar]

And environments draedon wants to stufy

[robust osprey]

draedon would want to know more about space creatures and stuff like deus

[split mortar]

The moon has no life

[lucid tundra]

was that a portal 2 reference

[pulsar ocean]

yes

[split mortar]

Thats free resources at cost of no life lost to study

[cosmic sandal]

dradeon and 5 minutes no life to study

who’d win

[lucid tundra]

awesome game

[cosmic sandal]

too much a price to pay

[pulsar ocean]

infinite energy and bro cant even build a rocket ship

smh my head

[split mortar]

Draedon has never had a reason to develop such tech

[cosmic sandal]

idk maybe hes uhhhhhh making a giant robot the big one

[split mortar]

Moonlord was a hige issue

[split mortar]

Until we risked the world by freeinng it

[pulsar ocean]

do you think moon lord would taste good

[lucid tundra]

dreadon vs dr zomboss (zomboss murders him)

[split mortar]

And turned out it had t healed

[cosmic sandal]

no hes rotting

[lucid tundra]

yeah

[split mortar]

Zomboss loses to peas

[cosmic sandal]

better question is would the aquatic scourage taste good

[split mortar]

Unlikely

[cosmic sandal]

dradeon can lose to paper airplanes checkmate

[split mortar]

Lots of acid and uranium

[split mortar]

Takes a lot longer

[cosmic sandal]

still could lose to paper

[pulsar ocean]

i think the green tentacles would be really tasty

[cosmic sandal]

hes officially a fraud

[split mortar]

Moonlord the goat

[cosmic sandal]

those are teal right

[lucid tundra]

go for the eyes

[cosmic sandal]

they look like neon teal

[cosmic sandal]

wheres the legs boss

[split mortar]

Btw the biggest feat in cal is uh
Country level and took 3-5 days to do

So scal doesnt scale to it directly

[pulsar ocean]

yeah bulma with tech no diffs cal verse sadly

[cosmic sandal]

how does this powerscaling really woro

city level sounds like her destructive power not her actual attack power

[split mortar]

Its this

[lucid tundra]

isnt pvz heroes scale way more higher than city tho

[split mortar]

Thats the calc

[wheat walrus]

solar system level would instakill xeroc effortlessly

[split mortar]

Xeroc is like at hyper fucking max pushing
Continent

[cosmic sandal]

alzheimers is enough

[split mortar]

According to cei

[cosmic sandal]

the wrath of gods mod managed to trick hundreds of people into thinking xeroc is a reality warping deity

[pulsar ocean]

what if xeroc trained more

[cosmic sandal]

the damages of this have not been calculated

[cosmic sandal]

dradeon would study him and win

[visual kiln]

xerocsile

[split mortar]

Tbf old lore also had xeroc as omnipotent

[pulsar ocean]

did 100 pushups 100 situps ran 10 kilometers every day only ate bananas

[split mortar]

Draedon grows in power slower then xeroc

[pulsar ocean]

for 3 years

[cosmic sandal]

hes batman

[split mortar]

They cant beat xeroc

[cosmic sandal]

he figures out a counter from nowhere

[split mortar]

Xeroc grows even more

[cosmic sandal]

and wins

[split mortar]

Nah

[cosmic sandal]

dradeon complete sweep

[split mortar]

They. Cant

[lucid tundra]

he would become the free dart monkey

[cosmic sandal]

complete sweep from dradeon this is propaganda

[split mortar]

Devs have said it

[pulsar ocean]

xeroc uses his hyper beam of death and no diffs draedon and any machines he pulls out of his ass

[cosmic sandal]

yeah and im clearly hyperbolising dradeon as a joke

of course he cant win

[cosmic sandal]

false his new machine counters he was always watching he was doing his research

[split mortar]

Took draedon 660 years to be able to make scal level guys
Xeroc was past that in like a century

[lucid tundra]

@wheat walrus does this mean omni-man could solo calamity

[cosmic sandal]

he figured it out

[split mortar]

By like
Possibly twice or more

[wheat walrus]

Draedon being solar system level is something that could in theory happen if Draedon is allowed to work for like unnameable amounts of time and he manages to achieve the power equal to shit like a high-end Hypernova or a full Gamma Ray Burst

[wheat walrus]

most likely

[pulsar ocean]

yeah but draedon didnt kill no innocent dragons checkmate

[cosmic sandal]

personally i scale off of how destructive they are not power wise

[split mortar]

Theyre using power made by someone who did

[wheat walrus]

I don't scale Invincible but in the spoilers ||comics they get quite close to actual planet busting iirc||

[wheat walrus]

yea

same process applies

:p

[cosmic sandal]

and thats why i think he could hypothetically take out planets

it’d take a bit

but he could probably pull it off

[pulsar ocean]

didnt mark, omni man and some other guy like destroyed viltrum no effort

[cosmic sandal]

do you think rusting would kill dradeon

thats his weakness

[visual kiln]

how far would xeroc get in invincible

[split mortar]

Powerscaling is about like one hit
Using over time scal is country level

[lucid tundra]

not no effort also spoilers :(

[wheat walrus]

Attack Potency isn't always Destructive Capacity (a character being stronger than a City Level character but not as destructive as one is still City Level), but usually Destructive Capacity is automatically Attack Potency

[split mortar]

No

[wheat walrus]

fre

[cosmic sandal]

damn he must be good at warding it off

[wheat walrus]

😭

[cosmic sandal]

im gonna put him quite high

[wheat walrus]

he can sterilize a planet if he wants to

[lucid tundra]

the laser weakened the core of the planet

[wheat walrus]

we know that

[cosmic sandal]

we are removing the space racer guy thats cheating

[wheat walrus]

but that doesn't mean planet level or solar system level

[cosmic sandal]

“ray that destroys anything” we arent debating that

[pulsar ocean]

invincible ended in 2018 bros

[lucid tundra]

wdym s3 was fire

[cosmic sandal]

if he had prep time to study the planets he would find a weakness 🧠 🧠 🤖 🧠

[pulsar ocean]

comic

[wheat walrus]

planet level = energy to blow up a planet (earth is used as a standard)
solar system level = energy to create an explosion with enough range to destroy an entire solar system

[cosmic sandal]

do you think dradeon could mass produce exo mechs if he set up factories in china

[wheat walrus]

whar

[split mortar]

No they cant

[cosmic sandal]

its the realest question

[cosmic sandal]

damn

[split mortar]

Takes months to just make thanatos

Takes so long they finish them quite close to when we fight them

[wheat walrus]

he can mass-produce them already in theory, as we know that he has borderline infinite resources and there's the implication that him mass-producing exos is how he'd "destroy life's hopes" if we were to lose his temper

it would take long tho

[pulsar ocean]

what if draedon just didnt make thanatos cuz hes pathetic and just made like another ares

[cosmic sandal]

what if dradeon made an army of dradeons to boost research

[split mortar]

Draedon is an ai

[cosmic sandal]

ai hivemind

[split mortar]

What does make an army of draedon mean

Like

They already have

[cosmic sandal]

many dradeons

[split mortar]

Kinda

[cosmic sandal]

more dradeons

[pulsar ocean]

robot from invincible

[split mortar]

That would help how

[cosmic sandal]

dradeon sun

[split mortar]

They have backups everywhere

[split mortar]

Draedon is not replicating the sun yet

[cosmic sandal]

remember the “1 trillion lions” question? yeah 1 trillion dradeons

[split mortar]

Xeroc wins

[lucid tundra]

he killed a viltrum but just because he knew his weakness

[split mortar]

Throw whatever you want from calamity
Xeroc wins

[cosmic sandal]

bunny

[split mortar]

Xeroc wins

[visual kiln]

HOLY SHIT RLLY FUNNY IDEA

[cosmic sandal]

wait. terrarian wins

[split mortar]

Thats possible but you have to go against whats in game

[cosmic sandal]

if xeroc is intended to be a super boss then technically he would have to lose in some way

[split mortar]

Its a spar
With ingame gear xeroc is just beyond us

[visual kiln]

ok i had the idea earlier that sea prisms, n by extension exo prisms, had either a limited power throughput or a limited supply

right

[pulsar ocean]

terrarian is calamity
whatever your hc on the terrarian is its canon
i download wrath of the gods, defeat aoe and canonically use the emptiness spray on xeroc

[split mortar]

We cant win against xeroc

[cosmic sandal]

what if he made thanatos 70 times longer for no reason

[visual kiln]

mass production of exo mechs would strain this hard probably right

[wheat walrus]

what if I did that to your spine

[cosmic sandal]

long thanatos

[visual kiln]

so like

[pulsar ocean]

what if draedon pulled out a bunch of hekates

[cosmic sandal]

yeah you’d look like a little munchkin from how high i am

[visual kiln]

draedon when his mech army randomly and inexplicably powers off instantly:

[cosmic sandal]

he ran out of power, he got ddosed

[wheat walrus]

you'd look like a spaghetto

😭

[visual kiln]

😔

[paper oyster]

Does Draedon has a peaner

[cosmic sandal]

i cant hear you from up here lalalalal

[paper oyster]

[wheat walrus]

who called the ark players in

[wheat walrus]

how tall are you even

:p

[split mortar]

[cosmic sandal]

aprox 0.2 micrometres

im actually a bacteria

[wheat walrus]

killing you

[wheat walrus]

ok

[paper oyster]

Damn

[wheat walrus]

so you're covid iirc

[paper oyster]

Does he

[lucid tundra]

im dreadoning it

[cosmic sandal]

no polio

[split mortar]

This server is 13+
No weird questions

[wheat walrus]

didn't they kill you off

[paper oyster]

darn

[cosmic sandal]

no i still fester in unvaccinated children

they failed to kill measles

[wheat walrus]

great

go at @paper oyster now

[paper oyster]

I’m not a kid

I’m vaccinated

[cosmic sandal]

ok what if

dradeon made like uhh

[wheat walrus]

don't care @cosmic sandal adapt to the vaccine N took immediately and take over

[split mortar]

Theres no physical material in the universe capable of withstanding the energy output needed to hurt xeroc decently

[paper oyster]

I have a lot of vaccines

[split mortar]

And xeroc can still griw

Grow

[lucid tundra]

star from (star vs the forces of evil) could solo calamity right

[cosmic sandal]

nameless deity is cooler xeroc

[split mortar]

Idk where they scale

[tropic oak]

lore discussion

[wheat walrus]

dont care, somerandommahoraga adapts

[paper oyster]

No

[cosmic sandal]

thats your true scaling

[paper oyster]

No

[tropic oak]

No

[split mortar]

Ehhh
We dunno enough about xeroc to really say
Also they are different characters

[paper oyster]

How high does the calamitous verse actually scales

[split mortar]

Nameless isnt old lore xeroc

[split mortar]

City level for scal and exos

[cosmic sandal]

hes not xeroc anyway

[tropic oak]

oh em gee is that omni

[wheat walrus]

it is

[tropic oak]

omni would u like to hear something awesome

[lucid tundra]

man

[visual kiln]

huh???

[cosmic sandal]

nameless deity is a red herring for xeroc but its not xeroc

[tropic oak]

what the fuck are you talking about

[paper oyster]

isn’t nameless just boring Xeroc

[cosmic sandal]

basically the mod just rewrites some lore

[split mortar]

Nameless is jist a different character

[cosmic sandal]

both of these guys boring

what you mean

[paper oyster]

Damn

[split mortar]

Theyre different characters

[wheat walrus]

aight

[paper oyster]

I thought it would be higher

[wheat walrus]

shooter

[tropic oak]

sending it to ur dms

[split mortar]

Many people do

[wheat walrus]

alr

[split mortar]

Omni release the scaling wall

Please

[cosmic sandal]

what if dradeon made

[lucid tundra]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/986709400351821904/1164240201548312596/petpet.gif?ex=65427e2e&is=6530092e&hm=41b9719e0ebb7d1e799b69cffe549727a27e11a6dd0be922fe964c263b890359&

[cosmic sandal]

a tiny dradeon

and the tiny dradeon made a smaller dradeon

[lucid tundra]

noooo :(

[cosmic sandal]

and that super small dradeon? another dradeon

[paper oyster]

Infinite Draedon glitch

[cosmic sandal]

unpatched, visible rn

[tropic oak]

[visual kiln]

nameless

[lucid tundra]

the grey dust would take to much time to do like that

[tropic oak]

nameless a bitch

catch these hands

[cosmic sandal]

dradeon the goat

[paper oyster]

Why does he look like gaybriel ultrakill there

[split mortar]

It looks like the train emoji

[paper oyster]

It does

[mighty zenith]

🚆

[lucid tundra]

NO WAY

[paper oyster]

It’s the same

[cosmic sandal]

ultrakill the game that made my life harder

[lucid tundra]

😭

[paper oyster]

is Draedon a train

[mighty zenith]

its literally an edit of it lo

[paper oyster]

Why

[tropic oak]

draedon made a war train

[paper oyster]

Draedon is a train

[lucid tundra]

can u send this gif here

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/986709400351821904/1164240201548312596/petpet.gif?ex=65427e2e&is=6530092e&hm=41b9719e0ebb7d1e799b69cffe549727a27e11a6dd0be922fe964c263b890359&

[cosmic sandal]

do you understand how much times you have to explain that “no, violence is not a white maze its a boiling river of blood where centaurs shoot murders”

[wheat walrus]

glo

[paper oyster]

No

[mighty zenith]

no

[lucid tundra]

:(

[cosmic sandal]

you wont because idk why people think ultrakill is a recreation of dantes hell its far from it

[paper oyster]

Jakito didnt even read divine comedy

[cosmic sandal]

no he did

[paper oyster]

Didnt he said he Didnt

[cosmic sandal]

7-3 proves he probably did or has done a good amount of research

[tropic oak]

lore discussion

do yall think the yharmy consisted of aruic army (frying his soldiers to death) or the exo armors ,,,,,

[cosmic sandal]

sorry mb wrong lore

[cosmic sandal]

they were all dradeon

700000000 dradeons

[robust osprey]

arsenal armor

I think

[mighty zenith]

neither

[robust osprey]

that or basic ore armor

[mighty zenith]

because uh yeah they cant wear auric

and exo technology didnt exist until yharim fucked off

[split mortar]

Exo didnt exist back then

[tropic oak]

BORRRRING

[robust osprey]

YOU are boring

[cosmic sandal]

cant believe it was gate kept

[mighty zenith]

mr. electric kill this person

[tropic oak]

the arsenal armors mustve been dookieshitballs

[cosmic sandal]

dradeon such a hater he didnt release the armor until after yharim left what a hater

[mighty zenith]

well, they had tiers

[tropic oak]

[mighty zenith]

higher ranking soldiers got better equipment

from cannon fodder to actually competent fighters

[split mortar]

Considering rando fucks got post evil 2 gear
Doubt they were fodder

[mighty zenith]

fair actually

i forgor tier 1 was post evil2

[lucid tundra]

are yall excited for new terraria update?

[robust osprey]

I forgor it will be a thing ngl

[paper oyster]

Yharim fight will release before 1.4.5

[tropic oak]

yharim fight will release in

[robust osprey]

tomorrow

[dusk laurel]

möngke khan

[limpid saddle]

false

Yharim is in approximately 6 million fargo years

1.4.5 is in 5.9 million fargo years

[dusk laurel]

i can confirm

[tropic oak]

yharim tomorrow

it worked for deltarune itll work for yharim

[lucid tundra]

lets just make devs work for 48 hours a day

[paper oyster]

1. Yharim tomorrow
2. If not, read point 1 again

[pliant ruin]

gorthus tommroow

[limpid saddle]

im so sad about yhorm not being real

[hoary cape]

Instructions unclear tommroow not real

[sand mountain]

are there other non-dragon Auric Dragons that we know of (other than Yharon)

[dusk laurel]

yah

[sand mountain]

that we know of

[dusk laurel]

-Yharon, Dragon of Rebirth
-Zeratros, King of Dragons and Dragon of Primordial Light
-Vetrasyl, Dragon of Storms
-Dragon of Flame
-Dragon of Gluttony
-Dragon of Gravity
-Dragon of Frost
-Dragon of Life
-Dragon of Death

[sand mountain]

ok but technically Yharon isnt a dragon, hes a phoenix

[robust osprey]

he's a dragon

[dusk laurel]

phoenix is just a title

[robust osprey]

he's just called phoenix beacuse rebirth and fire

[sand mountain]

that makes more sense

[magic epoch]

dragon of rebirth and resplendent phoenix

"take one and pass it on!" "nah"

[sand mountain]

there was also the Dragon of the Seas because his soul was consumed by Tyrian who became the God of the Seas

[dusk laurel]

the domain probably changed

[deft vessel]

that dragon is unknown

iirc

[dusk laurel]

yeah

[robust osprey]

the only gods we know that had a perfect ascension (where dragon and god domains are the same) are xeroc (primordial light) and silva (life)

all the others gods have different yet similar domains from their dragon

[sand mountain]

how drastically can a domain change when consuming an Auric Soul

[robust osprey]

eeeh not much

like the domaims are related

[sand mountain]

ok

[robust osprey]

gluttony-slime
fire-ash
gravity-space (geometrical)

those are the examples I remember

[sand mountain]

i knew the slime god one, good to know the others

[deft vessel]

depends

[limpid saddle]

those are in essentials the only ones we actually know

[dusk laurel]

wrong

storms -> electricity

death -> sacrifices

[limpid saddle]

Otonilou ate Vetrasyl?

[deft vessel]

yes

[dusk laurel]

yes

[deft vessel]

🐌

[dusk laurel]

thanks blob

i knew i could count on you

[limpid saddle]

Anyway they still got 3/5

thats a passing grade

[dusk laurel]

true

[deft vessel]

factual

[limpid saddle]

& one of them was probably only revealed im gonna assume 5 months ago at most?

[dusk laurel]

space god was the latest revealed so far

[limpid saddle]

given the vetrasyl lore seems to have only really started to come into the lime light in the run-up to SSO

[dusk laurel]

october last year

[robust osprey]

yeah I totally forgot about death and sacrifices lol

[dusk laurel]

its pretty niche

[limpid saddle]

its fair

[dusk laurel]

i dont expect everyone to remember

[limpid saddle]

We know jack shit about him

[dusk laurel]

mhm

[limpid saddle]

& ravager is a boss

im not going to comment further as i dont want to be mean

[dusk laurel]

no no

elaborate

[deft vessel]

Consume the lore essence

[limpid saddle]

I am at no obligation to alter my wording or elaborate

[dusk laurel]

its this fucking thing again

[sand mountain]

ravager is most definitely a boss

[dusk laurel]

i will forever serialize you as the only calclone fan

[limpid saddle]

If there are a million CalClone fans, I am one
If there are a thousand CalClone fans, I am one
If there are ten CalClone fans, I am one
If there are no CalClone fans, I am dead

[sand mountain]

me personally, i think calclone is just a hater

[limpid saddle]

what'd she do to imply that to you

[sand mountain]

killed me

[robust osprey]

HAHA GOT KILLED BY CLONE

POINT AND LAUGH

[sand mountain]

[limpid saddle]

damn bro got beaten to death by a disabled mentally ill woman on life support & her two pet rocks

[dusk laurel]

you cant call the current clone a woman

its a rock

[limpid saddle]

theres a woman in the rock STUPID

[robust osprey]

it's a fuckind red eye

[sand mountain]

its my fault i play on eternity death mode exclusively

[robust osprey]

EoC ripoff

[dusk laurel]

proof?

[limpid saddle]

let me pull up the evidence™️

"I had seen this monster roaming the night in the past & thought nothing of it... But to think it was housing a clone of the Witch... Detestable." -Yharim, Calamitas Clone Lore Item

[dusk laurel]

i will believe it when i see it

[sand mountain]

so did draedon make calclone?

[limpid saddle]

yeah

He wanted a furnace upgrade & thought Brimstone magic was a good method of doing that

Calamitas' Brimstone Magic, specifically

[sand mountain]

tbf id take brimstone furnace over adamantine forge

[limpid saddle]

But when he cloned her, he found out that her magic wasnt genetic

& so, disappointed, he shoved her in a tube & put her in a storage facility

[dusk laurel]

based ngl

[sand mountain]

i kinda vibe with draedon

[limpid saddle]

Calamitas caught wind of this dreadful affair, broke into the facility seeking to free the clone, but upon contact with her 'original', the clone took in some of her Brimstone Magic, & with it the kidz bop remix of all her most traumatic memories

This abrupt & violent upheavel of her psyche made her go violently insane, running off into the night crying out for her brothers

[dusk laurel]

is this one of your head canons, the last part

[sand mountain]

"i can fix her"
-me (right now)

[robust osprey]

brothers that she didn't know she had

[dusk laurel]

also, i dont the think magic would reignite cal's memories

[limpid saddle]

Well no we know that the transferal of the brimstone magic happened, & it's generally agreed upon some of Calamitas' memories went with it (otherwise how would the constructs exist stupid)

Last 7 words though are admittedly, head-canon

[dusk laurel]

shes a perfect clone, why would it take magic to give her some memories

[limpid saddle]

why the fuck would a clone have the originals memories

you dont store memories in your gene sequence

[dusk laurel]

thanks for pinging me again

[vernal surge]

tbf this is a creation of draedon we're talking about, he'd probably find a way

(probably)

[limpid saddle]

fair point

But he made the clone so she could be his personal exo grill so why would he give her Calamitas' memories, even if that was something he could do

[dusk laurel]

exo grill

now tell me, if he had exo prisms already, why would he need to clone cal

[limpid saddle]

He did that for fun i guess

[vernal surge]

giving his project just a pinch of host trauma as added flavor ✨

[limpid saddle]

This probably was all pre-exotic resonance though

[dusk laurel]

it was

[limpid saddle]

i just did the exo grill bit because i thought it was funny

& not necessarily inaccurate if the cloning process went as intended

[dusk laurel]

bee grill

do you think draedon would classify cooked bees as a delicacy

[limpid saddle]

I dont think he knows what a delicacy is

as he cannot eat

[paper oyster]

Why

[limpid saddle]

i wonder

[dusk laurel]

thinking emoji

[limpid saddle]

where does cooking lie on Draedon's list of sciences in priority order to master

[dusk laurel]

why cant he just know what it is

[paper oyster]

1

[dusk laurel]

like he did a lot for yharim's army

why couldnt he know a bit about food

[limpid saddle]

he did aura farm like crazy in the exo mech fight

[dusk laurel]

he also studied animals a lot

[limpid saddle]

he was cooking

[paper oyster]

Was he

[magic epoch]

something tells me that, in comparison to draedon's extensive knowledge, cooking is practically nothing

[dusk laurel]

yeah

[limpid saddle]

are we implying draedon was responsible for the invention of modern rations

[dusk laurel]

who knows

[magic epoch]

could probably learn everything (that matters) in at most a day

me when iam a supercomputer

[limpid saddle]

He could very well learn

But what about execution?

How good of a quiche can Draedon make

How refined would his pastries be

[paper oyster]

Do you think Draedon would enjoy Minecraft

Yharim would like AoE

[magic epoch]

idont think it's too far fetched to imply he's capable of automating it

[pulsar ocean]

draedon would make nutrient sludge that makes up for meals throughout the day and it would taste like absolute dogshit

[limpid saddle]

so modern rations as we've posited before

[dusk laurel]

western rations

😋

[paper oyster]

Would Calamitas keep up with TikTok brainrot

Like skibidi toilet and the Italian animals and stuff

[wheat walrus]

ommioddio non si può così 🥹

why did it have to be the ai animals blowing up to mainstream and not caparezza

if Calamitas was a Caparezza fan she'd be inarguably the best calamity character tho

[paper oyster]

Whats that

She would be an AI animal brainrot girl

Tralalero type girl

[wheat walrus]

kills you

[paper oyster]

No

[wheat walrus]

caparezza better

he's not ai slop and the songs are kinda cool

[paper oyster]

Who

[wheat walrus]

and he also doesn't talk abt bombarding gaza

[wheat walrus]

italian singer

[paper oyster]

ah

[wheat walrus]

in the past few years there was a bit of a wave of memes in some italian communities about him

he's cool tho

[paper oyster]

idk I’m not Italian

Are you

[wheat walrus]

fair

I am

[paper oyster]

Damn

[pulsar ocean]

Why would humans make a city in hell and not somewhere like a glowing mushroom biome where it's supposedly cooler

[long bloom]

the heat makes forging metal trivially easy

[solar wharf]

i'd also assume dragons

dragons did like, rule the world

[visual kiln]

hiiiiiiiiiii

[tropic oak]

they ruled the surface yes

[limpid saddle]

In essentials

They werent like tyrants or anything

[light linden]

some did, some didn't

some were closer to monsters than rulers

some presumably did their own thing

only time they worked as one is when Fovos attacked

[split mortar]

some were some werent

[visual kiln]

lore

[hoary berry]

[visual kiln]

ur lore a snore

[deft vessel]

[visual kiln]

ur lore a pore

[deft vessel]

You’re a p

[split mortar]

Oh yeah the dungeon specifically fucks with souls somehow
I believe its due to ceaseless voud

[visual kiln]

what if noxus wants souls

[split mortar]

Considering dog gets god soul essence stuff
Wouldnt be surprised

-# this may also mean the afterlife might just be being eated by noxus

[visual kiln]

BASED

????

HOLD UP THATS FIRE

also i sleep now gnn

[split mortar]

Bai

[gritty kraken]

that paper be on fire rn

[long bloom]

what the fuck is a fovos

[cloud ibex]

ML

[long bloom]

huh

[cloud ibex]

800 years ago he randomly showed up, fuckin wrecked half the dragons (including Zeratros) and they couldn’t even kill him so they had to brutalize him and seal his remains on the moon

And then when you free him he IMMEDIATELY wants to square up again

He was so much of a menace the people living on the planet when he first attacked gave him a nickname that literally means “dread”

[long bloom]

yeah i just never heard the nickname part

do we know where he came from since he predates gods

[cloud ibex]

It’s another one of those things that (at the moment) you’ll only know about through osmosis of information here

[cloud ibex]

We have no idea

[long bloom]

i just rejoined the community like last month so the only discord lore i've seen is stuff linked in the future doc

and people talking about past reveals

[limpid saddle]

yo same but remove the 're' & make it 5 months

[magic epoch]

and people talking about past 5 monthsveals

[hoary berry]

[heavy agate]

i decided to use the "it threatens everyone. everything" line from ceaseless void lore in a researched argument essay cuz i thought it went so hard and turnitin thought it was plaigerised and i explained to my professor how it was just a line from a videogame i heard and she said "oh thats okay then" and then went on a rant on how she had to fail someone for using chatgpt to write their essay

calamity lore goes so hard ❤️

[paper oyster]

based teacher

[wheat walrus]

Shore

[stoic gulch]

Are you shore

[dusk laurel]

meow

[magic epoch]

what a beach

oops ping

[stoic gulch]

It’s fine

[pulsar ocean]

❌

[lusty prairie]

Same for me except it's only been a little over half of a month

[split mortar]

Not only that
It does so while missing the lower half of its body, many organs and a good chunk of its skull just plain missing
Moonlord is a fucking menace

[hollow cedar]

Hi everyone. I have some questions about the lore. Please answer. I used a translator, so I apologize for my English.

1. Is it possible to absorb a god's soul?
2. Why did Calamitas surrender and the player spare her?
3. Are there any details about what the Dragon's Aerie looks like?
4. How exactly did DOG harm Yharim?

[split mortar]

1. Unlikely since it explodes into god essence and even if you did… good luck existing since you essentially made your soul have 1/3 control over its own body so yeah your mind is gonna be fucked up

2. Calamitas fight is her trying to stop a yharim 2.0 happening, by the end she lacks the emotional energy to care and has also stopped thinking you are a yharim 2.0 (this can be incorrect) the player spares her due to killing her giving no extra rewards and devs dont want to add moral choices in block game mod

3. Its a giant floating island continent thing, apart from one small rock xeroc dug out nothing has been even scratched so the place looks quite pristine

4. Dog never harmed yharim iirc

[light linden]

1. No
2. She realized we aren't like Yharim
3. It's supposedly frozen in time and nearly indestructible
4. DoG is a deceptive egomaniac

[pulsar ocean]

Wait no moral choices?

So I can't spare yharim?

[split mortar]

Yep

[pulsar ocean]

Ts pmo

[hollow cedar]

Why does Yharim hate DOG?

[split mortar]

DoG is constantly lying, has a huge fucking ego and is hard to control

[pulsar ocean]

Dog works for Noxus and joined yharim purely for easier access to more God essence

[split mortar]

And yharim knows all this

And the fact their true allegiance is with a different force is known to yharim

They dunno what force it is tho (its noxus)

[hollow cedar]

Who is AoE and who is Noxus?

[scarlet axle]

Noxus is a character from calamity mod, Avatar of Emptiness is an unrelated character from Wrath of the Gods, a calamity addon

[languid badge]

noxus is an eldritch entity chilling in the distortion

[languid badge]

I do not think unrelated is the right word

[split mortar]

Wdym?

AoE aint even based on old lore noxus

[scarlet axle]

they are tangentially related due to development history but its simpler and more clear to say theyre unrelated

[languid badge]

fair

[cosmic zenith]

Sparing Yharim is a terrible choice unless you are blatantly evil

Or as strong as Xeroc

[hollow cedar]

How big is the difference in power between Xeroc and Yharim?

[split mortar]

Stupid bug

Big

Like
Yharim gets instantly bodied basically

Yharim is quite below noxus
Noxus is below prime fovos
Prime fovos gets bodied by xeroc

[mighty zenith]

omg roy reference

[hollow cedar]

Why doesn't Xeroc just kill him?

[mighty zenith]

he probably should've but it seems that xeroc doesn't want to interfere with the world's problems

[split mortar]

^
Likely wants to only deal with outside threats not internal threats to the planet

[hollow cedar]

ND is Xeroc?

[mighty zenith]

no

they're almost entirely unrelated, besides ND using the primordial light sigil, though in a different context

[hollow cedar]

So there is no official design of Xeroc in his god form?

[mighty zenith]

publicly no

[hollow cedar]

Where exactly is Xeroc and what is he doing?

[split mortar]

We dunno and theyre training or hunting noxus

[limpid saddle]

Xeroc has practically done nothing for the last 800 years, though it is generally believed he has been keeping vigilant in case of the appearence of another threat like Moon Lord

[hollow cedar]

After a dragon is killed and its soul is absorbed, does its body disappear or does it remain?
Is it possible to revive a dragon using its soul? In theory, is it possible to separate a dragon's soul from a god?

[split mortar]

No you cant seperate the souls, after ascension their souls are practically erased

And without a soul
The dragon cant come back

[limpid saddle]

The corpse of the Dragon presumably remains, & while it is possible to revive an Auric Dragon reduced to just a soul, (that's what Yharon's job was), the Ascension process merges them absolutely, in application, destroying the Auric Soul

It becomes too unstable, after a God is killed, & the soul is left without a vessel, it explodes

[hollow cedar]

So Yharim's goal was simply to kill all the gods?

[limpid saddle]

Yup

[hollow cedar]

How old is Yharim?

[limpid saddle]

His goal was to kill every God, believing all of them to be ireedemably evil for their 'divine sin' (absorbing an Auric Soul & killing a Dragon)