#lore-discussion

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green prairie
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Fovos might also be in the running since he was able to nearly overpower most of the Dragons on the planet singlehandedly, and also crippled their king leading to his death

split mortar
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Pretty sure yeah

paper oyster
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We’re thry like something before or full robot

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were

split mortar
paper oyster
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Interesting

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Draedon is interesting

green prairie
split mortar
split mortar
mighty zenith
split mortar
mighty zenith
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byeah draedon himself mightve been that

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fair fair

paper oyster
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Are Yharim and Draedon gay

mighty zenith
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yes

paper oyster
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Doomed yaoi type shit

paper oyster
mighty zenith
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next questiom

paper oyster
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uhhh

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idk

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Why is calamitas cute

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Cute

paper oyster
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interesting

green prairie
split mortar
mighty zenith
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he did wake up in the middle of nowhere with a dead guy next to him with some electrical attachments

green prairie
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Why he's such an unmatched supergenius and his giant robots are a little... rudimentary is beyond me

mighty zenith
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so thats where the "botched consciousness transfer" theory comes from

mighty zenith
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some guy wanted to turn himself into an AI but fucked up the memories

split mortar
mighty zenith
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self-learning AI yeah

green prairie
# paper oyster wym rudimentary 😭

The Exos, for as powerful as they are, are still just robots. They don't have the brain power that a skilled fighter would have, hence why Yharim is stronger than them (to me at least)

mighty zenith
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he's had 6 centuries to make progress so yeah

paper oyster
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Have you thought about that

green prairie
mighty zenith
split mortar
mighty zenith
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he tried to literally put souls inside machines before (hallowed mechs)

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but he was disappointed that they retained their free will

green prairie
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I forgot about that (It's 2am leave me alone)

split mortar
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No sorry you will be executed for this

paper oyster
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Whats going on with Draedon after fighting the exos

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Does he just like goes away

mighty zenith
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he talks to you

green prairie
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I always assumed the mechs themselves aren't sentient, but the Souls basically just took over and piloted them

split mortar
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In game

mighty zenith
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he's just
off doing his own thing again

paper oyster
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Cool

mighty zenith
paper oyster
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I should replay the mod by myself again

green prairie
mighty zenith
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but that still means the robots are out of draedon's control

paper oyster
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Last time I played dragonfolly was called bumblebirb

split mortar
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The nano plague is a machine virus that can take over life and also experience evolution

Thats prob impressive

paper oyster
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It was a while ago

paper oyster
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mighty zenith
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"bad guy" isnt really that accurate

sinful adder
mighty zenith
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well it is accurate but
not descriptive enough

paper oyster
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Also if he can rebuild a moon why doesnt he like cleans the acidic ocean thing

sinful adder
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He's not good either, mind you

green prairie
paper oyster
split mortar
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While draedon isnt a bad guy
They lack morality
So if it helps advance science theyll do it

paper oyster
mighty zenith
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he's not malicious, the one thing he legitimately wants and strives for is advancements and progress

sinful adder
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He cares solely about science and learning things, and will do whatever it takes to discover more

green prairie
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His main goal isn't evil stuff, his only motive is scientific advancement, whatever happens to get in the way of that is water under the bridge to him

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(Though he does show remorse for what happened with Yharim and the Sulphiric Sea)

split mortar
paper oyster
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Excuses

sinful adder
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I am not sure if I would call that remorse but I don't remember exactly

mighty zenith
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i mean, he doesnt really care about either

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he could re-do the sulphurous sea easily

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and yharim was just kinda there for him

split mortar
green prairie
# mighty zenith ehh does he?

That's what I got from the Codebreaker dialogue at least, since he assures the player that he doesn't want to obliterate Terraria's greater ecosystem the way he did to the ocean

mighty zenith
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he was more annoyed that he released PBG than getting fired

split mortar
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Draedon wasnt programmed with morality and so cant understand it

paper oyster
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As I said, Doomed yaoi type shit

green prairie
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His only goal is scientific advancement, not absolute destruction after all

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Though that's just my headcanons, he might be a jerk canonically for all I know

paper oyster
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Anyways I’ll go to sleep night

split mortar
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Bye

green prairie
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Yharim and Draedon are basically exes anyway

split mortar
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Yharim came crawling back for a favour lmao

limpid saddle
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unexpected peak reference

split mortar
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Thats cause cal devs are based

paper oyster
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Who’s fovos

split mortar
paper oyster
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ah

split mortar
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Both are equally valid ways of referring to the eldritch being from beyond the stars

paper oyster
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Didnt the dragons had trouble with Moonlord why would Xeroc or Draedon be able to solo him

split mortar
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Draedon cant solo moonlord at full power rn

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Xeroc has grown a lot since the fovos invasion

paper oyster
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How can you get any stronger than that 😭

split mortar
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Also moonlord is very well built for fighting crowds and taking hits, the tongue thing would be able to heal from many of the dragons
So it was also just a horrid matchup for the dragons

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Along with fovos being well
The second strongest character

paper oyster
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Fair

split mortar
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Fovos is also like
Just fucking near impossible to kill

The dragons tore out part of their skull, cut em in half, scooped out many organs and trapped it on the moon for 8 centuries

And its still among the strongest things on this planet when its released

hoary berry
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still banned gun, smh

split mortar
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Goose
I will stab you

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:(

hoary berry
paper oyster
split mortar
split mortar
paper oyster
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Fair enough

split mortar
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Hell
We can fight yharon pre ml (i think) and still cant even scratch its skin with yharon drops and still have to target the weakspots

paper oyster
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you can fight Yharon pre ml???

real silo
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beat dragon folly pre ml and you can

split mortar
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You can fight folly pre ml and you dont need the cosmic anvil to make the summon

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So iirc yes

paper oyster
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Darn

split mortar
paper oyster
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I didn’t even tried

split mortar
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Bruh

paper oyster
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Only doomscrolled TikTok for a while and got up to get some water

limpid saddle
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I really do think if Thanatos wrapped itself around Fovos, released all of it's exhaust, then Apollo & Artemis came in with full force Miracle Matter lasers, with Ares grappling him & detonating Chiaotzu style, & the rest following suit, that could kill Fovos

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If not that, inflict equivalent damage that he is now at the point where we fight him in game

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if not worse off

paper oyster
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Who and who and who and who and who

limpid saddle
paper oyster
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Ah

split mortar
limpid saddle
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thats their names

paper oyster
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Damn thry have names

limpid saddle
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bro he

split mortar
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Thanatos is worm
Artemis and apollo are hte twins
Ares is skeetron neo

limpid saddle
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he literally tells you them when you're selecting which ones to fight at the start of the fight

paper oyster
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I have never fought them

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Fight them? idk

split mortar
paper oyster
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A while ago

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Yeah

limpid saddle
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& yet they only joined like 4 days ago

paper oyster
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It was also like the only time I finished the mod

paper oyster
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Or something like that

split mortar
paper oyster
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I forgor

limpid saddle
paper oyster
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Am I a bum

split mortar
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Also cant moonlord like

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Just

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Teleport out

limpid saddle
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& yet he still got killed...

real silo
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Everyone's a bum when compared to literally the strongest thing at the time

limpid saddle
# split mortar Teleport out

Then give me the lore reason why Moon Lord doesnt teleport to avoid everytime a mage Terrarian uses the Terraprisma

split mortar
real silo
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it teleports to catch your ass not to avoid your attacks

split mortar
limpid saddle
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Yeah I dont think he can do it that quickly

split mortar
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Itll always be on their ass

limpid saddle
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Otherwise the entire Dragon/Moon Lord conflict was basically a big game of catch except the persued would occasionally slap one of the catchers so hard they explode

split mortar
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Also
Could the steam even damage fovos

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Like
I dont think the exhaust can even damage us in game

limpid saddle
split mortar
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And despite that theyre prob the most durable character in calamity

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Also if it was advantageous wouldnt the exos bomb us mid fight?

limpid saddle
split mortar
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Just bomb us when theyre low on health

limpid saddle
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If Draedon was dead-set on killing us he very well could've done so with the Exo Mechs with the aforementioned suicide bomb strat

split mortar
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Can they even bomb themselves lime that

mighty zenith
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if draedon wanted to kill us he would just carpet bomb us

limpid saddle
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I assume they can given with a shitty miracle matter compound they manage to pull off their desperation attacks

split mortar
snow mountain
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i like moonlord's lower half being tentacles

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its so silly i love it

paper oyster
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I like calamitas commiting war crimes as a child

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It’s so silly I love it

split mortar
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Do not the bee

paper oyster
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What

limpid saddle
lusty prairie
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Do we know who created the Terraria world in the lore? It wasn't Xeroc or any of the gods, because they existed before attaining godhood, so was it the Dragon Xeroc killed, another dragon or do we just not know?

green prairie
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I'm not sure if there's a canonical creation event that caused the birth of the Auric Dragons and Terraria, so I don't really question it

dusty tree
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Good morning people, I crave information about the distortion, appearance specifically
Do we have any descriptions (detailed hopefully) or concept arts of the general environment? How is it imagined to look like and that kind of thing? Anything helps

limpid saddle
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Oh ok thats alot of questions

limpid saddle
dusk laurel
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there is no known creation deity

limpid saddle
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Their Auric Souls were bestowed by the shattering of the World Soul, & there is no known creation event

dusk laurel
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yerp

limpid saddle
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Presumably it was just a big bang like ours but... y'know, mana or something

green prairie
dusk laurel
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supposed to be very different than anything that is from our world

dusty tree
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Hmm that's helpful, what about other structures? Or is it mostly barren?

green prairie
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According to Draedon's dialogue, the dimension itself may also be alive

dusk laurel
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many many biomes

green prairie
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(I assume that's what Noxus is, just the physical manifestation of the Distortion)

dusk laurel
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noxus is probably just one creature

lusty prairie
dusty tree
green prairie
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There may be entities in the Distortion that just aren't apart of Noxus, similar to the Devourer

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Braelor is also one of these

dusk laurel
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braelor got stuck on their

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because of a certain purple worm

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we know of 4 distortion beings so far

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signus, noxus, storm weaver and devourer

green prairie
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My personal conclusion is that the Distortion is a barren void, consisting of dilapidated structures and floating islands, with a dark overlord at the center of the dimension

dusk laurel
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its not barren

young socket
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its full of life

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like

dusk laurel
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its the center piece of post moonlord exploration

young socket
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draedon specifically mentions having plenty of life

green prairie
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Well, barren like how a desert is barren

dusk laurel
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it would be odd if it was empty

green prairie
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I think my brain got it confused with WotG's Dead Universe

dusk laurel
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i mean i dont blame you

dusty tree
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That was helpful information, thank you all

dusk laurel
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the old plans for the distortion were pretty shallow afaik

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just a purple void as a dog arena

green prairie
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OH yeah that's what I remembered

dusk laurel
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the distortion will first be unlocked after defeating cv

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and then it gets more after dog dies

green prairie
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I'm really excited to see more of the Dragon Aerie someday

plucky spruce
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see any of the dragon aerie

lusty prairie
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I wonder if that'll come before the Yharim update. Would there be much point?

limpid saddle
lusty prairie
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Yeah, I figured that was the most likely case.

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Even if it wasn't, it'd be the update immediately before it, so it wouldn't make much difference

cloud ibex
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at most other than Yharim i think the Aerie will probably have some lore™️

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which i don't think would really be enough to have as a separate addition before the main event gets added

lusty prairie
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I'd hope so. There's a lot about the Aerie and the Dragons I'm curious about

robust osprey
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hello lorers

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what is loreing today

limpid saddle
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farming cloud elemental for her accessory & vanity

manic coral
robust osprey
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hello cei

wheat walrus
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or no?

manic coral
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i want to get base perma dialogue done soon

wheat walrus
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permanent dialogue,.,,

river python
wheat walrus
robust osprey
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we lov perma dialogue

amber cedar
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glorp

full leaf
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Xeroc is the cameraman of the Calamity world

manic coral
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using Permafrost dialogue while he's in the tundra to sorta of make fun of myself from two years ago

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who thought that i had to give him a "more original" like or that if he did like it he should "like it for reasons other than the nice or snow"

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becuase i thought that would be "too generic"

river python
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what's the problem about the generic things

manic coral
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exactly

river python
mighty zenith
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the lore writers here do get a bit quirky at night

snow mountain
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permafrost should give advice like to not eat yellow snow or something

manic coral
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tbh im thinking that since obviously his lvoed biome is the tundra

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since we can do that now

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the liked biome is probably the hallow

dusk laurel
manic coral
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multiple likes and dislikes also works now without shit breaking

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thanks YuH

river python
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when the Terrarian just spawned in the world the Astral Biome doesn't exist, isn't it?

manic coral
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nope

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i mena you see when it falls

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or, well

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hear

river python
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so how tf Yharim and Draedon knows about the biome.

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or the dialogues are recent

manic coral
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becuase they saw it too

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i mean draedon literally has surveilence drones and aureus was

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literally sent out to investigate it

river python
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hmm

gritty kraken
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I thought astral biome only spawning in Hardmode is just gameplay thing

robust osprey
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no it literally falls more or less at the time you defeat wof

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probably just coincidence

gritty kraken
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dam that crazy

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It took over aureus that fast

river python
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to explore the biome

robust osprey
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you were busy with 9 bosses

manic coral
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Aureus is old as hell

robust osprey
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10 if you do leviana before aureus

manic coral
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just formerly used for different stuff

mighty zenith
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yea he just sent it there

river python
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oh

wheat walrus
river python
wheat walrus
pliant ruin
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Miau

stoic gulch
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Nya

river python
river python
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we know the gods that Yharim has killed?

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i know he killed, Silva, The Ravager

cloud ibex
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only a few names and the fact that he got the vast majority of them

river python
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but i suppose he killed so much more

lusty prairie
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He killed the space guy

cloud ibex
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silva (to the best of his abilities), shakidou, otonilou and tyrian, the God of Sacrifices

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i think that's all the named ones?

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well, the ones we know about, we don't exactly know Ravager's old name

snow mountain
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john

river python
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john.

gritty kraken
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Bloodflare joe

river python
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the god of the caliz is still alive?

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i dont remember how is called

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but his item is a caliz

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that gives you 20% extra maximum life

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uhhh

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the god of blood?

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i dont remember pretty well

gritty kraken
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Chalice

robust osprey
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ravager is spanish

gritty kraken
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there were some theory about god of sacrifice and god of blood getting merged in ravager but idk I think chalice was just a warhammer reference or something

river python
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My Cat is not letting me read the Lore chat

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may i sacrifice him

cloud ibex
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iirc a while back a bunch of items that formerly referred to the word "god" in their names got changed, but Chalice is one of the only ones that didn't

robust osprey
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cat should sacrifice you

cloud ibex
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which to me implies that it actually is supposed to be significant

young socket
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the blood god was intentionally left in as a canonical god that exists

river python
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look at general media, he don't let me read the precious lore

robust osprey
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cats are divine tho

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if you kill them you and your whole bloodline explode

strange stump
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like godcat

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my favourite EBF boss

cloud ibex
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the god of (geometric) space

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iirc they've been stated to have been the strongest god that wasn't xeroc?

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something like that

high verge
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who is drew and why draw wings?

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is this a reference to minions 3?

cloud ibex
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fabsol

high verge
cloud ibex
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the guy who started the mod

high verge
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I know, but that doesn't answer my question

cloud ibex
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it answered the first part of it

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"drew" is fabsol because his real name is andrew

prime mauve
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also Drew's wings are wayyy older than minions 3

river python
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aproximatelly How long ago was Azafure destroyed?

pliant ruin
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given calamitas did it while she was a child

river python
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oh

pliant ruin
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less than 30

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very recent

river python
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so like 20+ 30-

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Azafure is the same as old as the Draconic era, isn't it?

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i remember reading something like that

pliant ruin
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whar

river python
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Azafure is pretty old

limpid saddle
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It was founded like

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1800 years ago in canon

pliant ruin
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Oh they're asking if Azafure is as old as the Draconic era

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idk

limpid saddle
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Auric Dragons were way before that

pliant ruin
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draetalk probably says

dusk laurel
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like when it was founded

river python
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so

dusk laurel
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azafure was founded during the draconic era

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but it isnt as old as it

river python
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hmm

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The founding of Azafure happened long before Xeroc ascended?

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or Xeroc is more old than Azafure?

dusk laurel
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yes

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the former

split mortar
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Azafure is older then Xeroc

river python
dusk laurel
limpid saddle
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do the math

wheat fjord
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If the immortal went around beating up calamity characters how far would he get

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The Immortal dying to grubby 🙏

river python
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i'm getting confused so.... so Fovos attacked the world 800 years ago?

limpid saddle
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its not that complicated theres just alot

river python
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i remember reading that was like 1000 years

river python
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but well.

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now makes sense

pliant ruin
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i think immortal could honestly get somewhat far

wheat fjord
pliant ruin
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nah

limpid saddle
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I think he gets to Plaguebringer best case

split mortar
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Doesnt immortal deal actually good damage on omniman

wheat fjord
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The immortal been catching Ls since ep 1

limpid saddle
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Taken down by mechs if we're lowballing

limpid saddle
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& that is it

wheat fjord
pliant ruin
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wouldnt say good damage but he definitely hurt him more than most of cecil's countermeasures did

young socket
pliant ruin
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which si already more than you can say for most other characters

wheat fjord
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The immortal and war woman beat him nearly to death ig

pliant ruin
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soo id say he can last until around pbg yeah, maybe a little more

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plague probably fucks him up

wheat fjord
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The immortal is one of the 3 characters said to be near viltrumite level

limpid saddle
wheat fjord
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The immortal also moves at mach 3 I think

pliant ruin
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plagued abraham lincoln 😭

split mortar
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Exo plague xeroc

river python
wheat fjord
pliant ruin
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exo plague xeroc sounds like the calamity equivalent of those shitty sonic ocs

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darkflame the hellhog

split mortar
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Pffffft

mighty zenith
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withered/old aran ryan

split mortar
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Whaur

wheat fjord
pliant ruin
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WAIT UR RIGHT

dusk laurel
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joseph

pliant ruin
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IT SOUNDS LIKE A FNAF ANIMATRONIC VARIANT

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Xeroc

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Withered Xeroc

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Toy Xeroc

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😭 😭

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Exo Plague X eroc

river python
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we know the true names of Catastrophe and Cataclysm?

pliant ruin
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no

river python
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or literally that are they names

mighty zenith
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exo plague xeroc is what funko would pull

dusk laurel
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funtime xeroc

mighty zenith
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for a recolor funko pop

pliant ruin
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those are definitely not their names but we dont know their true names

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same with calamitas

river python
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Calamitas isn't her name?

pliant ruin
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No

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She'd need to have some pretty terrible parents

mighty zenith
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her parents wouldve been massive assholes if they named her like that

magic epoch
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calamitas would atleast be a better name than catastrophe and cataclysm

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since it's not just A Word

wheat fjord
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I thought calamitas was a name given to her cus of the calamity she caused at azafure of wherever it was

mighty zenith
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naming your child catastrophe 😭

pliant ruin
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naming my daughter Defenestration

mighty zenith
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thats like being named Failure or Garbo

split mortar
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On my way to name a random child autoimmune disease

magic epoch
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imagine naming your child

wheat fjord
magic epoch
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eggg

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and they change their name to amethyst

mighty zenith
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mmm eggg 🤤

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🍳

wheat fjord
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Imagine naming ur kid melvin

dusk laurel
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fryful

magic epoch
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calamitas' real name is Rebecca Black

river python
rotund shore
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Jokes aside

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My Headcanon for the name calamitas is that it was given to her by yharim

river python
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yep probably by Yharim

rotund shore
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If in a war, saying something like “Surrender now, or I shall send out…calamitas” is say more threatening then saying “Surrender or I’ll send out Claire” or whatever random name she has

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Good intimidation and shit

limpid saddle
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I assume Catastrophe was a ring name & Cataclysm was a mercenary nickname in similar veins

rotund shore
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Yeah

river python
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who was the big brother?

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Cataclysm? if i remember well

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the red

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i dont remember who's the red one

mighty zenith
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cataclysm (punchy guy) was the oldest and the brawler, catastrophe (sword guy) was the middle child and the mercenary

cloud ibex
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imagining cataclysm squaring up like some dude out of a black and white cartoon

river python
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Cataclysm supposed to be overprotective with Calamitas, i'm sure he was a good guy

mighty zenith
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i always got the vibes of "really fucking scary buff guy that is also a massive sweetheart to his friends and family"

cloud ibex
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"I say, I say! Your unmannerly behavior is quite unacceptable! An uncivilized scallywag like you oughta be tought a lesson!"

mighty zenith
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and catastrophe being the silent edgelord that doesn't really talk about his life

river python
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how difference of age they have?

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aproximately

mighty zenith
magic epoch
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you can explode me

river python
mighty zenith
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we can assume the brothers were adults when they died

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though catastrophe may have been under 18 and had to work to make money anyway

river python
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hmmm

mighty zenith
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i headcanon that cataclysm was 20, catastrophe 16-17 and calamitas 12

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but like thats entirely just speculation

river python
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Calamitas was the one who killed her own brothers in the battle against the elemental?

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or how they died

mighty zenith
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its possible

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it mightve been brimmy first or collateral

pulsar ocean
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were cataclysm and catastrophe like actual names of her brothers

river python
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I was thinking about making a comic with its own head canon based on the original canon, something like a continuation of the canon without the presence of the Terrarian.

mighty zenith
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we just said they werent

river python
paper oyster
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Like imagine calling your kid cataclysm

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They were John and Jack

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Trust me I’m calamitas

river python
paper oyster
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Yes

pulsar ocean
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"so.... Mr.Catastrophe. why do you want to work at mcdonalds?"

wheat walrus
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John and Jack

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and Jane

paper oyster
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Yes

river python
paper oyster
river python
wheat fjord
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How big would all the bosses be irl

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Guessing smaller than I imagine

pulsar ocean
river python
wheat fjord
river python
#

like 8ft?

wheat fjord
#

Way bigger

lusty prairie
#

What about the (future) DoG? That dude has got to be absolutely massive.

wheat fjord
#

Wait how tall is the terraria character

wheat fjord
river python
#

we need to know how tall is a block

#

to can calculate all the bosses

split mortar
wheat fjord
#

The terraria mc is 5'9 right?

split mortar
#

Uh
Idk
Maybe

#

I Havent done the pixel measurements

wheat fjord
#

Ever see that one rly epic fanart of the eater of worlds

split mortar
#

The depth meter or compass literally tells us a block is 2 foot iirc

thorn drift
#

Is john wulfrum canon, and, if so, could he beat yharim

split mortar
#

John wulfrum is a joke name given to the unnamed creator of the wulfrum bots

#

And no they cant

late veldt
#

we don't know that they can't

paper oyster
#

They can

#

I met them

light linden
#

@manic coral got time for a question?

split mortar
#

If skeletron has living marrow
Shouldnt it
Fountain blood down or something

paper oyster
#

No

pliant ruin
snow mountain
#

john wulfrum is real

split mortar
#

Unjohns your wulfrum

abstract gyro
#

Unwulfrums your john

abstract gyro
pliant ruin
#

provi definitely is not that small

split mortar
#

Provi is like
60 foot or 60 metres big i forgor which o e

pliant ruin
#

if she was human sized her sprite ingame would reflect that given there's other human sized bosses

#

probably 60 feet because 60 metres is!

thorn drift
#

thats a bit too big no?

pliant ruin
#

kinda big

#

yeah.

abstract gyro
#

I played ftw recently and I kinda liked how small she is there

thorn drift
#

id wager her at around 20-30 meters in width

#

(wings included)

pliant ruin
#

i was gonna try finding smth to show how big 60 meters is but i couldnt find anything but yeah tis way too big

split mortar
#

20 metres is close to 60 foot iirc

dusk laurel
#

generally the sizes ingame are accurate afaik

split mortar
#

^

thorn drift
#

Except for the weapons iirc, cuz im not sure the terrarian can just casually wield a sword five times their size
(dont quote me on that)

abstract gyro
split mortar
dusk laurel
#

polterghast sized sword

#

(exoblade)

abstract gyro
thorn drift
split mortar
#

And even a fraction of that is a lot

dusk laurel
#

are we trying to rationalize egregiously large weapon sprites

split mortar
#

Idfk

dusk laurel
#

: xd :

split mortar
#

Im just saying it makes sense late game terrarian can hold them

Not that its in any way practical

dusk laurel
#

i miss the old miracle matter weapon sprites

#

the ones that lasted less than a year

split mortar
#

What were they?

thorn drift
#

Exoblade and heavenly gale had a resprite between the current and old ones

split mortar
#

Yeah i see their appeal

thorn drift
#

Especially for the exoblade tbh, the in between sprite was a bit more interesting than the current one

#

current one is a bit plain imo

dusk laurel
#

i agree

thorn drift
#

The overall shape of the current one with the design complexity of the inbetween one would go hard tbh

#

Speaking of exoblade though, apparently draedon wielded swords in old lore

#

wich is strange, considering his character

#

Because afaik, draedon didnt really change that much between both iterations

dusk laurel
#

yeah

#

it was mainly his origins and something else i think

#

now he uses the original model for the pulse rifle rather than the exoblade

thorn drift
#

Oh yeah right, i forgot

#

draedon has a gun

split mortar
#

And its getting reworked in sso

#

And at some point getting a exhume iirc

thorn drift
#

iirc pulse rifle is just getting a visual overhaul

#

functions the exact same

dusk laurel
#

just visual changes like what sunstorm said

split mortar
#

Aight

limpid saddle
#

what do you guys believe Calamitas thinks of Draedon

dusk laurel
#

negative opinion

cloud ibex
#

she probably doesn't like him on account of Clone existing

split mortar
#

And the fact they were yharim aligned and dont see an issue with it

vivid ridge
#

nvm

#

i said it doesnt seem too crazy'

#

but its 2 blue whales stacked ontop of eachother

young socket
#

60 metres certainly is!

river python
#

Permafrost have dialogues if he lives in the same biome with Calamitas?

#

should ahve

#

should have*

dusk laurel
#

theres a whole dialogue rewrite happening dw

split mortar
#

Currently they dont
But in sso they will cause they should

#

Almost everything lore is in sso currently i am going tiskskskskskskkfnnfnnnrjeN

(

dusk laurel
limpid saddle
#

I wonder if they'll actually talk to each other or just talk about each other's prescence

#

I'd kill to see Permafrost & Calamitas hug

split mortar
#

Would be great to see
I doubt it though :(

split mortar
limpid saddle
#

Would rather wait for something you know every fine detail of, knowing that it is just out of reach, or wait for a vauge promise that remains hidden in the mist

dusk laurel
#

"just out of reach" may be a bit of an overestimation

split mortar
#

Atleast with silksong i can just
Out of sight out of mind it

limpid saddle
split mortar
dusk laurel
limpid saddle
#

Watch it drop as soon as I get to Yharon in my infernum playthrough

light linden
#

y'all think the demons in the underworld are sapient?

river python
#

what was the role of Permafrost in the Yharim Army?

dusk laurel
#

he was yharim's main advisor

light linden
young socket
#

perma was playing city sim games while yharim was fighting people

#

(im not joking permafrost helped with managing cities that were either conquered or allied with yharim)

digital anchor
#

I know Providence consumed the Auric Soul of Light, but what about the guardians? How do they have similar powers?

young socket
digital anchor
#

And basically she sees everything as impure which is why she wants to eliminate everything?

pliant ruin
#

she's a extreme nihilist, seeing the only way to remove suffering from the world being removing life itself

young socket
#

yea that

#

extreme nihilism

digital anchor
#

So it’s one of those “she thinks she’s doing the right thing but in reality it isn’t”

pliant ruin
#

i mean generally thta goes for most villainous characters in the mod

digital anchor
#

True

#

As the main antagonist for the mod, Yharim shows a lot of regret

pliant ruin
#

ehhh

#

some regret

#

wouldn't say a lot

#

he does definitely think hes doing the right thing though

#

even if he very much isnt

digital anchor
#

My bad, I remember reading scals lore item and thought that

pliant ruin
#

he does partially regret what he did to scal, not that it would change her opinion of him i don't think, but he also dosen't really

#

regret the entire genocide thing, and is actively still trying to accomplish it

digital anchor
#

Yeah I kinda forgot about that whole thing 😭

young socket
digital anchor
#

Doesn’t his resentment of the gods come from when he was made to consume Yharon’s soul but decided not to and rebel?

pliant ruin
#

yep

#

also from yharon feeding him insanely biased tellings of what happened to his people most likely

digital anchor
#

Was Xeroc part of that event?

pliant ruin
#

nah

digital anchor
#

He’s just a neutral third-party?

pliant ruin
#

whoever the gods that did were are dead now

digital anchor
#

How so?

pliant ruin
#

were likely the first gods yharim killed that in fact, implied to be the ones taht would eventually turn into the corruption

digital anchor
#

Ah

#

Oh I didn’t know that about the corruption

pliant ruin
#

yharim dosen't really care about a god's morals or affiliations, if they're a god he wants them dead

young socket
digital anchor
#

Is that where the astral infection that comes from dying stars sources from

#

Or is it generally just the corruption

pliant ruin
#

astral infection is entirely unrelated to gods or anything from earth

young socket
#

astral is entirely seperate

pastel bay
#

Even Draedon doesn't know. Even welcomes our theories on it.

digital anchor
#

That’s where Astrum Deus comes in? They consume the astral matter before it gets worse?

paper oyster
#

Calamity more like Calamid amirite

rotund shore
young socket
pastel bay
#

"I thought they were bad at naming before"

tardy sequoia
#

hey who is noxus i dont know enough about him pls help brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

dusk laurel
#

noxus is a scourge

pliant ruin
#

noxus is some entity from the distortion that's really big and scary

#

and uhhhh he controls DoG in some way

#

that's about it

pastel bay
#

Unknown entity of distortion, Is seeking essences. We can only assume it wants them for bad reasons

tardy sequoia
#

like the bigger bad of the distrotion that yharim was talkingha about????????????????????????????

pastel bay
#

We think.

paper oyster
#

Perchance

young socket
#

PERCHANCE!

pastel bay
#

No concrete answer but it's the only thing that fits the bill currently

pliant ruin
#

Mario, The Man.

young socket
paper oyster
rotund shore
#

Noxus ends up just being a really boring office boss
“Hey DoG, corporate is needing you to fill out the god essence quota”

pliant ruin
#

Amazing

reef wigeon
#

What is the name of Ares's unstable miracle matter attack?

#

I don't know

young socket
#

blender beam

river python
#

What is the demonym of Azafure?

#

Azafurese?

#

like Chinese but with Azafure

#

or Azafurians like Russians

#

or

#

how

#

how we call the people of Azafure

calm patio
#

british

river python
#

Azafurish

wheat walrus
river python
#

Azafurian?

wheat walrus
# river python Azafurian?

Azafurians/eans (cant remember "eans" but js in case) is how the people are commonly referred to, I think even the devs generally use it

young socket
#

ians

wheat walrus
#

Yian Kut-Ku my Sensei 🙏

pliant ruin
young socket
#

WHY THEY LIVE IN HELL

#

WHY THEY HAD AN INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION

pliant ruin
#

Spain is hell

young socket
#

AND WHY SCAL SOUNDS FUCKING BRITISH IN THE BEGINNING OF HER THEME SONG

dusk laurel
#

blah blah blah

pliant ruin
#

Me when the scal voice isht canon

dusk laurel
#

azafure is clearly romania

young socket
#

azafures destruction is literally just the great fire of london

river python
#

Azafure is a random Balkan country

#

or a descendant country of Yugoslavia

dusk laurel
#

yugoslavia was in the balkans

#

so that doesnt really change anything

calm patio
#

smhhhh

#

its like mexico being yellow

young socket
#

this is true its always grey here

dusk laurel
#

why are half the people here british

young socket
#

a...

#

||calamity||

dusk laurel
#

😨

river python
paper mountain
#

Hello, in which discord channel can I find the new version of Calamity 2.0.4.6?

river python
#

how much age has Braelor?

#

how old is him

glacial rampart
# pliant ruin some regret

i've always thought of it as like
he regrets making calamitas do genocides but he doesnt regret the genocides

limpid saddle
pastel bay
#

Even if not, just go to the browser inside tmod loader and hit update all

keen arch
#

vernal pass. do we know anything about it? it’s got the remnants of construction, it’s got a whole ass tree, now it’s infested by plantera bulbs, and the temple is right beneath it

split mortar
keen arch
#

lizhard? dryad’s people? or something else?

split mortar
#

I imagine a different group then those two

keen arch
#

odd that there isn’t a lab near that. seems like something draedon would be interested in

split mortar
#

There is the jungle lab

keen arch
#

i suppose so. i interpret the lab as being unrelated since its location isn’t guaranteed to be nearby

#

wish we knew more about the prior inhabitants. i’d like to rebuild it to something of it’s former glory. i started with that in the crags; rebuilt the great bridge and used it for my brimstone arena

split mortar
#

We might when perennial gets reworked? Unsure on that tho

keen arch
#

speaking of azafure, the remaining buildings. do we think they were residences before the city burned? or something else like shrines?

split mortar
#

Seem a bit small for residences so prob shrines or something

manic coral
#

you dont go into azafure yet

split mortar
#

That aswell

manic coral
#

that'll be in crags overhaul

split mortar
#

Why am i still banned gun…

manic coral
#

why not

split mortar
manic coral
keen arch
#

wait is the crags NOT the ruins of azafure?

manic coral
#

The crags you se ein-game right now are right outside the city

#

i mean

split mortar
#

We currently only see the very outskirts of the olace

manic coral
#

what's there now isn't exactly

#

really a city

#

it's just four buildings and a bridge

#

with not much between them

#

it's just the outskirts

keen arch
#

oooooh okay. i kinda assumed the rest of it was burned to ashes/outside our field of view. we only see the world through a 2d plain after all

manic coral
#

not really a city. hardly qualifies as a town.

#

the proper city will be, well

#

a city

keen arch
#

i mean in terraria a “town” is like 3 people

manic coral
#

fair enough ig

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

keen arch
#

so. the city of azafure is built over the resting place of the brimstone elemental. they rise to prominence trading brimstone. something wakes her up; maybe the same industrial pursuits that first pollute the sulfur sea? maybe she senses calamitas as a rival or threat? city burns

#

do i have that basically right?

split mortar
#

I doubt brimmy sensed scal as a threat since scal didnt have powers before brimmy woke up
But other then that im pretty sure yeah

keen arch
#

her lore entry states that when she woke “Calamitas was there to match her” and that they fought to a standstill

split mortar
#

Yeah
Once brimmy awoke scal suddenly gained their powers

#

We know scals power isnt her own

#

Draedon cloned them and they had no powers till being freed by scal

keen arch
#

ah. i assumed that meant scal was already a witch by then

#

i swear this mod and vanilla both have better writing than some AAAs and 90% of it isn’t even directly present in the game

#

wait is the tax collector FROM azafure?

split mortar
#

iirc yeah they are
Same for the guide (though they moved to azafure)

cosmic minnow
#

Banished

#

cast out

split mortar
ionic harness
#

Azafure always seems pretty interesting to me. A city being built in the underworld? Badass. Even just seeing the outskirts in the crags makes you wonder just how big the city had to be. I mean, don’t the crags take up almost 1/3 of the underworld by itself? Imagine how huge Azafure would be in comparison then.

sinful adder
#

It's a lot less than a third. At least, on normal world sizes

abstract gyro
#

I wouldn't expect Azafure to be that big, it's just one city, albeit technologically advanced

pulsar ocean
#

Azafure is hong Kong 🇭🇰

cloud ibex
#

no it's london

charred prism
#

I thought it was just Detroit?

cloud ibex
#

it's london

#

-source of the in-universe industrial revolution
-full of blade-wielding enemies
-literally hell

robust osprey
#

wasn't it

#

spain

wheat walrus
olive jolt
#

is Solyn canon

#

she cute

#

UwU

robust osprey
#

no she's an addon

olive jolt
#

wish she canon

snow mountain
#

i have a gif for this

robust osprey
#

no gif perms sowwy

snow mountain
#

what if its peak

limpid saddle
#

Fargos is too if you try to get on the Deviantt copium

robust osprey
#

WotG has it's own canon

olive jolt
snow mountain
#

🫡 finally a pure soul

olive jolt
snow mountain
#

😬

robust osprey
#

I HIGHLY recomend don't do calamity as your first terraria run

olive jolt
limpid saddle
olive jolt
limpid saddle
#

I recommend Expert for the most typical Terraria experience, & at least beat Empress Of Light to understand what Calamity is like

olive jolt
pulsar ocean
cloud ibex
#

yes bloodborne is london

#

good to see we agree

mighty zenith
#

yharnam...

#

it all comes back to england

pulsar ocean
snow mountain
#

brimstone elemental did them a favour

robust osprey
#

what

snow mountain
#

i stand by my point

robust osprey
#

elaborate

snow mountain
#

i stand by my point.

young socket
#

britain bad

#

laugh people, laugh

robust osprey
#

oh

#

I didn't understand the joke..

young socket
robust osprey
#

true!!!!

#

Argentina has personal beef with that clueless

dusk laurel
#

french people and british people when they are arch enemies for 2000 years

magic epoch
#

because she's.... fire

manic coral
#

I'm trying to think of how many places permafrost can be in that I should actually bother giving him unique comments for

young socket
#

every biome and minibiome

#

and if possible every structure

manic coral
#

Sentenced to 1000 years in tmod discord with the only topic you're allowed to talk about being calamity

#

:/

pliant ruin
#

make him give comments for Glowing Moss Cave

young socket
manic coral
#

That's the punishment

young socket
#

lunishment

strange stump
#

its time for my monthly check up

#

hellooo

split mortar
#

Hai

#

We are condemning someone to the deepest pits of hell

young socket
#

yea

#

you

split mortar
#

Nah

young socket
#

im not the one who was forcibly nicked to be "banned gun"

cosmic minnow
#

For funnies

young socket
#

well the mushroom biome in space implies that the glowing mushrooms are very fucking old

strange stump
#

is there any uhhh

#

new information i might've missed

#

since like

#

start of the year

robust osprey
#

probably not

split mortar
# strange stump start of the year

Not much new info has been made public afaik

Other then idk maybe the pillars attacking the dragons but thats not much snd mignt be befire 2025

cloud ibex
#

the aerie is indestructible

#

iunno when exactly that was revealed but i'm pretty sure it was this year

young socket
#

nah thats been a thing for a while

dusk laurel
#

well yeah it was a month or 2 ago

#

which is still this year

split mortar
strange stump
#

ok sweet

robust osprey
#

only xeroc managed to damage it

mighty zenith
#

omg is that space

limpid saddle
#

I dont think we'll be able to make npc housing in the aerie or distortion

manic coral
#

no it's a fake

#

sorry garbo

limpid saddle
#

Which is sad because it'd be funny to see the npcs tweak the fuck out over being there

young socket
manic coral
#

yeah no, no distortion or aerie housing

limpid saddle
#

Tragically tracks

mighty zenith
young socket
limpid saddle
#

Can we place blocks there at all or?

young socket
#

hidden dialogue anyway

manic coral
#

no

young socket
#

:c

limpid saddle
late veldt
#

ohe

limpid saddle
#

just asking

late veldt
#

just asking

young socket
#

(which they wouldnt since its a subworld)

manic coral
#

and also no building in the aerie

young socket
#

ye if u try yharim dungeon guardians u

limpid saddle
#

will yharim drop an item like the anchor or calamitas monolith thing that gives the place you place it dragon aerie visual effects/background

#

same question for distortion & DoG

limpid saddle
dusk laurel
#

blows you up violently

limpid saddle
dusk laurel
#

: snale :

strange stump
mighty zenith
#

hii omphie

strange stump
#

helloooooooo :D

mighty zenith
#

:3

river python
sleek halo
#

every person is like

#

“Why would I want to live here?”

#

Like they just… refuse

manic coral
#

"Why would I want to live here?" (Respect for the Aerie)
or
"Why would I want to live here?" (Disrespect for the Aerie)

sleek halo
#

Yeah

cloud ibex
#

imagining npcs getting there and going "damn. this place is really fuckin boring"

sleek halo
#

maybe Permafrost…. but highly unlkely

#

he’d probably wanna

#

study it

#

if anything

manic coral
split mortar
#

Tax collector

snow mountain
#

the lack of building is quite possibly the worst thing you could do

#

smh smh i can't put angler in the distortion

strange stump
mighty zenith
#

no

#

:3

strange stump
#

:(

green prairie
rotund shore
#

Has braelor made himself a quaint little house in the distortion for himself or is he kind of just wandering
Bold for me to assume there’s any kind of reasonable building material like fucked up distortion wood

cloud ibex
#

he might've found a cave or something to chill in for the time being

rotund shore
#

Maybe

ionic harness
#

Well, Braelor likes ants

wheat walrus
#

True !

split mortar
#

Thanks garbo

ionic harness
#

I think that’s the most important thing about him

split mortar
#

@cei this real?

cloud ibex
#

i don't think we really know enough about the distortion to say anything for certain

rotund shore
#

It’s weird how much I’m curious of what braelor is doing to survive in the distortion
It’s such an unknown place in the mods current state so whatever I’m imagining it as is probably very wrong

#

Listen all I want from the distortion is for you to be able to fish up distortion crates with uhhh fuck what’s the name of the ore that DoG drops

#

How am I forgetting

ionic harness
#

I’d imagine that it has something to do with being connected to Silva? Maybe he gets his nutrients though a blessing?

rotund shore
#

Perchance

ionic harness
#

Bro is probably a husk barely being kept alive by a sunken Goddess’ lingering influence

#

Either than or he’s just so determined find his ninja bro husband

#

Is Statis even a ninja

rotund shore
#

Even if there is edible stuff in the distortion that would give the needed nutrients to survive, I probably wouldn’t dare try eating anything lmfao

ionic harness
#

I might have just made that shit up

rotund shore
#

Probably all fucked up and evil looking food

ionic harness
rotund shore
#

Yeah I can see that

#

Mostly since I visualize the distortion as being incredibly purple

split mortar
ionic harness
#

Melon I feel like I have calamity dementia

green prairie
rotund shore
#

I like to imagine you can fish in the distortion

split mortar
#

Cosmilite flavoured fish
My fav

rotund shore
#

Simply cook the food so the fucked up distortion germs that probably exist are gotten rid of

#

Distortion gives off vibes that it’d have brain eating amoeba

green prairie
#

What would Distortion food even taste like?

rotund shore
#

Purple

ionic harness
#

I’d say maybe even maroon