lore-discussion

[split mortar]

Drops Rod of discord

[robust osprey]

oh that

[split mortar]

Yeah they use primordial light

[robust osprey]

does chaos elemental have actual lore

in cal

crazy

[pulsar ocean]

What if you killed the space auric dragon and got it's soul and you moved to somewhere like Saturn yharim can't get to you there

[split mortar]

They drop a tool that uses primordial light
More will be explained once the vanilla bestiary rewrite occurs i imagine

[robust osprey]

the rod uses primordial light?

[split mortar]

Theres a space god
And
They died

[robust osprey]

crazy

[split mortar]

Thats why jared attacks us if we use it

[pulsar ocean]

Are they fucking stupid

[river python]

Braelor Is dead?

[split mortar]

No

[river python]

no?

Statis was the one who survived, isn't it?

[dusk laurel]

none died

[split mortar]

They were the second strongest god so like
Maybe
There was just no feasible way to get off planet

[dusk laurel]

statis escaped

braelor is stuck

in the distortion

[river python]

oh

[pulsar ocean]

Currently in noxus's evil lair getting tortured by noxus' evil minions awaiting rescue

[reef wigeon]

If my Terrarian canonically (or narratively) created a dedicated item, wouldn't it be canon in my case?

[dusk laurel]

yes

[pulsar ocean]

We can get to low orbit in like 5 seconds using Elysian wings

[split mortar]

Draedon cant get to the moon easily rn

[reef wigeon]

Who do you tell?

[river python]

Approximately how long has Braelor been trapped?

[split mortar]

?

[split mortar]

Months

To a year max

[river python]

only months? so Yharim Vs Braelor and Statis was technically recent before the Terrarian just spawned

[pulsar ocean]

Does statis need to give his remaining leg and arm to signus for him to free braelor

[split mortar]

Yes
Its one of the most recent things before the game starts

[pulsar ocean]

I thought yharim was not in the mood for fighting by the time we arrive

[reef wigeon]

If my Terrarian narratively creates a dedicated item, wouldn't that be canon in my case?

[pulsar ocean]

Didn't you just say that

[split mortar]

We dunno
Might not he an option fir statis

[pulsar ocean]

Like a couple minutes ago

[split mortar]

Yeah
But
Thats not what im asking

[reef wigeon]

Nobody answered me

[pulsar ocean]

I'm pretty sure someone did

[split mortar]

Vanillin did i think

[pulsar ocean]

My original terrarian starts with a heads up from draedon having his forge and angel treads

[dusk laurel]

whar

[dusk laurel]

yeah

dedicated content refers to stuff ingame

so headcanons are outside of that

[reef wigeon]

Exactly, that's why I asked Vanillin Who did you reply to. Sorry, I'm using a translator since I'm not an expert in English.

[split mortar]

Ohh ok

[reef wigeon]

Ah, thanks

With the little English I know, I fix the mistakes the translator makes (there are too many)

Literally Draedon during the entire Exo Mech Trio fight:

[dusk laurel]

fall within my calculations

[reef wigeon]

Draedon in the final phase:
didn't fall within my calculations...

[robust osprey]

draedon has a hidden speaker that reproduces exos theme over and over while you fight

this is true my uncle works at calamity he told me

[spark quest]

someone make a comic book/ graphic novel or the lore please

[robust osprey]

this is very true

I wanna see child manipulation and genocide

[vernal surge]

one can hope after the mod is finished methinks

genuinely the lore is so intriguing it’s actually book worthy and I’m sure I’m not the only one who agrees

(I say as an aspiring author)

[spark quest]

lol fr

[livid bobcat]

I wanna learn about draedon, old lore vs new lore

Like he's a genius robot builder, alien in one, robot in the new. What else? Where did bro come from?

[eager bluff]

we dont know

even he doesnt know who built him

[late veldt]

well he knows. it's just that fella is fucking dead

I still wonder how the hell Xeroc trains. what the hell does bro lift

[warped helm]

he could have been a consciousness transfer from his dead creator or an AI

he literally like woke up in the lab and just saw the dude dead on the floor

[livid bobcat]

Imagine both are somehow true

[eager bluff]

thats. not how that works

[livid bobcat]

Guy was an alien who erased his memories to start over as a machine to erase any aspect of sentimentality or weakness

[livid bobcat]

How so?

We can't prove it's true, but is there any way to prove it's untrue?

[warped helm]

you cant really have your own consciousness while also having an AI/artificial consciousness at the same time

its more of a this or that scenario

[eager bluff]

yeah

[livid bobcat]

Transfer kills him

Or you just Sci fi duplicate it

[eager bluff]

and if you have both then you would really fucking notice that

[warped helm]

im assuming it was some sort of consciousness transfer because draedon coincidentally wakes up and immediately finds his creator dead on the floor right after

[livid bobcat]

Right

[warped helm]

nothing could have just provoked draedons "awakening", meaning he woke up almost as soon as the guy died

which would suggest draedons creator dying = draedon waking up

[livid bobcat]

Do we know literally anything about this guy

[warped helm]

no

absolutely nothing

[eager bluff]

having multiple voices in your head is generally not something you pass off as normal no matter how fucked up you are

[warped helm]

except the lab being in a taiga i believe

or tundra

[eager bluff]

tundra yes

[livid bobcat]

So we can't say he's NOT an alien until proven otherwise

[warped helm]

whichever one it was

[warped helm]

his creator could have been an alien

[eager bluff]

i mean like sure we cant say for certain but like

the likelihood of such a thing is infinitely low

[livid bobcat]

(I'm just scrounging for world building for my calamity themed dnd campaign)

Having all of these characters be abstract, up to interpretation, or ambiguous doesn't work for my purposes, though it makes for fun game lore

But when they become characters you can rp with, ambiguity becomes an issue

[eager bluff]

anyways the lab being in a tundra was intentionally there to leave open the possibility that daedalus was real

[warped helm]

AI is also very different from a consciousness, draedon seems to have a personality (lacking empathy however) which an AI cannot

if draedon was just an AI he'd probably talk more "robotic-y"

[livid bobcat]

We love things being up to interpretation

[warped helm]

you know, like how an AI talks

[livid bobcat]

However, I am tasked with interpretation

[warped helm]

draedon doesnt sound like siri does he lol

[livid bobcat]

Draedon talks like gaster minus the wing dinging

[eager bluff]

in the same way john wulfrum is completely canon compliant

[livid bobcat]

Joh wulfrum?

[eager bluff]

yes

[warped helm]

the guy who made wulfrum

and shit

[eager bluff]

john wulfrum

[livid bobcat]

Who the heck is John wulfrum

[warped helm]

the guy who made wulfrum

and shit

[eager bluff]

ancient ass iban lore (not really)

[livid bobcat]

Ehhh?

[eager bluff]

came to be during concept art of the wulfrum set redesign

[livid bobcat]

I see

Do we know anything about him

Other than making wulfrum stuff

[eager bluff]

hes eccentric

if you've seen the wulfrum set then thats roughly what he looks like

[livid bobcat]

I always thought draedon made wulfrum stuff

[warped helm]

no

[eager bluff]

nope

[warped helm]

wulfrum stuff is like terrarias equivalent to plastic lmao

draedon would never make shit that low-tier

[livid bobcat]

I had this little headcanon that they were like little drone spies

Interesante

Cause like, how are yharim and draedon observing us otherwise

[rocky crown]

I only like the wulfrum prosthesis thingy from the whole set of weapons

[eager bluff]

nah they were used by rebels to annoy yharim

[rocky crown]

Looks cool :3

[eager bluff]

not draedon

[livid bobcat]

They weren't even on yharims side????

Why do they attack us then???

[eager bluff]

because they're old as shit

and cheap as shit

[livid bobcat]

They are canonically all just malfunctioning?

[eager bluff]

they are canonically not programmed to make a distinction between yharim and not yharim

[livid bobcat]

So John wulfram was like

[warped helm]

isnt the terrarian seen as like a mini yharim in some cases

[livid bobcat]

A Henry Emily type smart guy

[eager bluff]

yes

[warped helm]

at least comparable to him

[livid bobcat]

Aka, good at robotics

[warped helm]

because of what scal says

[livid bobcat]

Somehow thought springlocks were a good idea

[warped helm]

it'd make sense for shitty wulfrum bots to mistake us for yharim then lol

[eager bluff]

i mean like lets be real

if you just throw them at yharims army at random

you dont actually expect them to do anything

you expect them to Die and waste the armys resources

[livid bobcat]

Where can I learn about these rebels

[eager bluff]

yharim doesnt tell us much about them

we dont know shit about the majority of them aside from the fact that they existed

[livid bobcat]

Do we even know when they became a thing?

[eager bluff]

when yharim started invading places

[livid bobcat]

Fair enough

[eager bluff]

we dont have a concrete timeline of it but there are always gonna be people that arent exactly friendly to a literal army that just showed up in their backyard

[livid bobcat]

Right

I'm running my campaign in the era of pre total fall from grace yharim

[eager bluff]

oh sorry it wasnt yharim that talks about them it was wulfrum rover and drones bestiary entries

[livid bobcat]

I see

[stoic gulch]

What’s nomon lore

[cosmic minnow]

Nomon deez-

no seriously I’m certain it was just a bad joke

[mighty zenith]

its just a deez nuts joke

thats all it is

[cosmic minnow]

Hold it, so what was the lore on yharims family?

Or do we just, not have anything ?

[cosmic minnow]

(Where he comes from)

[stoic gulch]

Yhapaganda

Is the only family you need

[cosmic minnow]

ask vin diesel

He will know about what family you’ll need

[mighty zenith]

yharim's family, if he had any, is irrelevant

[split mortar]

Uh
Birthed yharim
Likely dead
Thats about it

[split mortar]

^

[cosmic minnow]

…

Man…

[mighty zenith]

they're just not important to his story
we know he's been indoctrinated in his younger days but before that it doesn't really matter

same with Calamitas' parents

their relevance is that they weren't there

[cosmic minnow]

Is there anyone in calamity with loving, alive parents?

[mighty zenith]

permafrost is a step-parent if that counts

and he's pretty cool

oh god i didnt even intend that

[cosmic minnow]

You might even dare say he’s really cool

How long has it been since lore items gave buffs and debuffs?

[split mortar]

The terrarians lore is up to YOU

[cosmic minnow]

The most overused, unfunny joke in all of calamity

I can’t

GET OUT OF MY HEAD

[split mortar]

[cosmic minnow]

Haven’t made an oc regarding my terrarian yet

For a fact, I already hate writing my two existing ocs

[mighty zenith]

like 3 years

[split mortar]

Expected much longer damn

[limpid saddle]

Wait lore items used to give buffs?

[cosmic minnow]

Already?

Damn

[cosmic minnow]

Ye

A buff and debuff

Except for Calamitas, she made you get 1 hit by everything if you had the lore item in your inventory

[limpid saddle]

what an ass

[cosmic minnow]

If you look up some really old chippy gaming or happy videos you’ll see the old lore items

[mighty zenith]

some were broken, some were useless

[limpid saddle]

It sounds like a fun idea

[cosmic minnow]

Ya know, before draedon existed in game and before Calamitas had a human sprite

[calm patio]

[cloud ibex]

Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice

[thorn summit]

is there a lore reason as to why the frost moon, pumpkin moon and solar eclipse get more powerful after defeating DOG?

[pliant ruin]

nah

those features r being removed later on

[thorn summit]

ic

my headcanon was that maybe the souls of related gods were freed from DOG upon his death

[pliant ruin]

wouldn't really make much sense given DoG dosen't store any divine essence inside of it

[thorn summit]

but ig its just a leftover of the mod's dev history

[pliant ruin]

more or less yeah

[thorn summit]

ah! so its just the WoF?

[pliant ruin]

ye

[thorn summit]

ig storing and consuming godly energy is 2 different things

[pliant ruin]

The divine essence DoG consumes is just sent directly to Noxus most likely

[thorn summit]

huh

[pliant ruin]

dunno where exactly but there's remarks in the in-game lore about how DoG "sends" the essence it consumes somewhere

and it's a widely accepted, all-but-confirmed theory that its being sent to noxus

[thorn summit]

gotcha

what abt the 3 stages of acid rain?

is there a lore reason as to why theyre locked behind their respective bosses

[mighty zenith]

eoc no
aquatic scourge is what keeps the aggressive creatures of the acid rain away, killing it is what allows them to show up and attack
polter no afaik

i assume the first and third tiers will get more reasonable explanations in the acid rain overhaul

[thorn summit]

gotcha!

[split mortar]

Btw
Frost moon and pumpkin moon arent canon
-# same for the enemies in the eclipse but eclipses themselves are canon

[dusk laurel]

🐌

[limpid saddle]

🐌

[cosmic minnow]

Snail

War Thunder-

[robust osprey]

inmortal snail

[magic epoch]

immoral snail

[split mortar]

No
The convo just said that the buffed events would be removed
Not
That the events themselves are not canon

[dusk laurel]

content planned to be removed implies that it is non-canon if it isnt already

[split mortar]

What i said covers the unbuffed versions aswell

[dusk laurel]

mb then

[split mortar]

👍

[shrewd stream]

Even if it is not canon what would be the explanation of those events if it was? The north pole was allied with yharim and sended an army to stop you?

[limpid saddle]

the terrarian wants to dethrone the pump king

[split mortar]

What one theres 500 of them

[shrewd stream]

Is a regicide-proof royal family

[river python]

Braelor should be godlike too , isn't it?

He have Tarragon amor, Tarragon Armor>Providence

Uhh... Now i think it, how tf he have Tarragon armor

[shrewd stream]

His armor might aswell just be a perfected version of tarragon armor

Just like how yharim's auric armor is better than ours (outside the fact it having exotech on it)

[limpid saddle]

well god-like isnt really a proper estimate of power given Slime God is pre-hardmode

He was comparable to Yharim in raw strength when they fought though

Now he's in a solid second place

[shrewd stream]

I do wonder, is slime god the sole weak god? Like is the power of gods like a scaling (going from early hardmode to post moonlord) or just super irregular?

What i mean irregular is that slime god is the weakest and the second weakest is late hardmode

[pliant ruin]

braelor has silva armor

tarragon is being removed

a variant of silva armor anyways

[shrewd stream]

Interesting

[pliant ruin]

no there's other weak gods

in fact there's gods weaker than slime god according to what some devs said i think

tho slime god is unarguably one of the wekaest

[sinful adder]

I had ideas for these

[shrewd stream]

Ok so it is like a scaling, like we have gods of all kind of powers that if they were alive and we would fight them it would fill out the whole game progression

But wait a second what could be weaker than slime god

The god of stairs?

[sinful adder]

A god can be basically any level of power, they'll be stronger than the person that became them. Keep in mind, even eye of Cthulhu is strong enough to easily destroy a small town

[shrewd stream]

Yes

[river python]

Ingame Tarragon is going to be deleted? So the new post-Providence armor will be other completely new?

[sinful adder]

Anyways, idea for the pumpkin and frost moon:
The essence of the god of gifts and the god of harvest, or something like that, were somehow put on the moon, and so sometimes they summon a bunch of creatures

[shrewd stream]

Hey wait i just remembed that vanilla adds another event

Frost army was it called?

[pliant ruin]

yes

[shrewd stream]

Make lore for that, i dare you

[pliant ruin]

some random mad wizard made a bunch of mafia snowmen because he felt silly

[shrewd stream]

Permafrost?

[pliant ruin]

nah not permafrost just some guy

[shrewd stream]

A ok his cousin's roommate at that point in college 49 years ago then

[pliant ruin]

john sowman

snowman

[shrewd stream]

Truly a despicable man

[magic epoch]

Coldmiser

[shrewd stream]

Al casnow

Mr snow

[river python]

The new will be related with Silva?

[pliant ruin]

no

silva armor is right there

[pliant ruin]

idk god of whipped cream

[river python]

I'm confused

Well i suppose the post-Providence armor will be related with Providence

[shrewd stream]

We using the corpse of a god to make armor yet again

[pliant ruin]

yes why would it be silva related

silva armor already exists

[river python]

Ok

Silva is stronger than Providence?

[limpid saddle]

We dont know

[magic epoch]

if she wasn't basically dead maybe

[limpid saddle]

Not physically at least I assume

But she is signifigantly harder to kill given she is one of those domains where she literally embody that domain

She is life, so as long as life itself doesnt cease to exist, she won't die

[split mortar]

Yes
Silva is the third strongest god we know of and possibly third strongest god ever

Its jusg that her powers seem more for buffing things so that power doesnt do well in direct combat

[river python]

Who's the second? If Xeroc is the first

[pliant ruin]

we dont really know that

[pliant ruin]

god of space shakidou guy

[split mortar]

^

[pliant ruin]

their name is shakidou... i think

and theyre the god of space

[split mortar]

Yes

[pliant ruin]

and theyre uhhhhhhhhhhhh yeah

[snow mountain]

i will explode

[split mortar]

Geometric space

[split mortar]

Why

[river python]

Uhh who's that guy

Ive never heard of him

[snow mountain]

it goes against a lot of the previous lore motifs of auric soul domains getting tainted upon an imperfect ascension

[mighty zenith]

currently irrelevant

as in, not mentioned anywhere in-game

[pliant ruin]

that wasn't a motif to begin with

[snow mountain]

stip did mention something like that

[split mortar]

Well shakidous dragon was the dragon of gravity

[pliant ruin]

calamity lore community has a thing for treating headcanons and widely accepted theories as fact

case in point there is no confirmation silva is the 3rd strongest god

[snow mountain]

i mean it lines up with a lot of pre-existing things

providence is a walking example of this

i mean flying

[split mortar]

Wasnt there a list by a writer that put silva as second place before shakidou being made?

[pliant ruin]

i dont know

but its not ingame so i dont care

man im being an ass rn

[snow mountain]

besides, its more interesting imo

[pliant ruin]

sorry im angry

[limpid saddle]

Doesnt that make it irrelevant?

[split mortar]

Dont worry

If silva was second place before the second place god was made then
She would be
Third place no?

[limpid saddle]

& I feel Silva is inherently powerful enough in influence & domain without having to be literally the third strongest god

[limpid saddle]

do you know how long ago that ranking of known gods in strength was

[reef wigeon]

What the fuck? 289 messages

[split mortar]

Ima look for it

[mighty zenith]

[gritty kraken]

Why is fovos naked

[limpid saddle]

seeing a dev type in this chat immideatly makes the first 17 seconds of Twisted Garden play in my head

[mighty zenith]

alien

[limpid saddle]

he's freaky

[mighty zenith]

hes also missing half his fucking body so i think wearing clothes would be difficult

[reef wigeon]

It has nothing to do with the conversation (maybe a little), but I don't doubt at all that Draedon has parts of Yharon's DNA.

[mighty zenith]

he's also the size of a building

[deft vessel]

He is trying to escape from Nomon

[limpid saddle]

i mean he could put on a robe or a t-shirt

[reef wigeon]

I mean, he already had of Calamitas

[mighty zenith]

didnt draedon explicitly not have access to yharon

[cosmic zenith]

If you believe they were "tainted" and made objectively worse and the Calamity world is a constantly downward spiral, then you are misinterpreting what is presented
Though it's a pretty understandable assumption in the current state of things

[limpid saddle]

I dont remember a source on that but it sounds right

like it makes sense

[snow mountain]

i wouldn't say tainted is a particularly bad thing

[mighty zenith]

i think draedon mentions it

may have to check again

[reef wigeon]

I remember that he just didn't have enough time to research it.

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah I'm just saying that it's not really being tainted as opposed to being reinvented

[limpid saddle]

I still cling to my Aftermath theory on ascension as always

[cosmic zenith]

And I hope we can make that clearer narratively

[snow mountain]

its more of the emotions of the beings eating the soul ig

providence moment

[split mortar]

Ok i think it was rebecca who did it
Cant easily search her messages since she isnt in calmain rn

[river python]

The failed ascensions exist?

[limpid saddle]

???

what

[river python]

I mean if the ritual of absorbing the Auric soul

[limpid saddle]

you dont 'fail' an ascension you can just do it & have it not be perfect

Or not do it

Or do it & be perfect

[deft vessel]

You fail it by doing it completely wrong

[gritty kraken]

Rainworld changed me

[river python]

Xeroc did a perfect ritual?

[limpid saddle]

yeah

[split mortar]

Yes
So did silva
They the only ones who did it perfect

That we knownof

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah
"Perfect ascension" does not entail a flawless ritual, but a flawless conversion of the Dragon's domain

You could argue it's a flawless ritual for that purpose but not everyone would want a 1:1 domain necessarily

[snow mountain]

you get to embody the concept without the influence of intentions nor emotions?

[limpid saddle]

Can I get a list of all known gods, their domains, & the auric soul they consumed domains rq i need to check something

[river python]

The Auric Soul can Reject you?

[cosmic zenith]

Nope

[limpid saddle]

No

[snow mountain]

also was the slime god previously a slime

[mighty zenith]

no he was a guy

[limpid saddle]

No they was a twink

[split mortar]

No
They were a femboy

[limpid saddle]

Now they're genderfluid

[reef wigeon]

I imagine that soulless beings cannot "ascend"

[gritty kraken]

I think the guy melted into slime ball

[snow mountain]

genderviscous

[limpid saddle]

They cant

Thats just canon

[robust osprey]

a guy --> gender fluid --> queen

[mighty zenith]

gelder

[cosmic zenith]

But is the influence of intentions or emotions isn't necessarily negative

[snow mountain]

yup, ive stated that prior

interesting idea

[cosmic zenith]

So yeah, it's change rather than decay

[snow mountain]

it gets less abstract i guess

[limpid saddle]

chat please i need to trick myself into thinking aftermath theory is correct

[robust osprey]

what is

aftermath theory

[snow mountain]

in a way, it also matches ancient mythology in that sense

[limpid saddle]

an idea that i developed that all non-perfect ascensions result in domains that are implicitly the 'aftermath' of the previous domain

[reef wigeon]

How does the influence of intentions and emotions work in ascension?

[split mortar]

Storm dragon to electric deity
Death dragon to sacrifices deity
??? Dragon to sea deity
Fire dragon to ash deity
Gluttony dragon to slime deity
Gravity dragon to space deity

[snow mountain]

truly, beings that befit the title of a god

[limpid saddle]

Like with Flame becoming Ash, because flames burn & make ash

[limpid saddle]

Ok i can maybe work with this

[reef wigeon]

Is a being who has perfect ascension more powerful than one who doesn't?

[robust osprey]

not really

[limpid saddle]

Not necessarily, as Shakidou's ascension wasnt perfect & he was the second strongest god

[robust osprey]

I think

[limpid saddle]

Until Yharim beat him to death

[cosmic zenith]

I think one particularly prominent piece of content in Sunken Sea Overhaul may help convey the idea that things aren't being lost, but they're constantly changing

[robust osprey]

xeroc is strong not beacuse perfect ascension (their domain is part of their strenght tho)

[snow mountain]

I do think cal lore fits with terraria being a sandbox, even if that is neglected somewhat, given how much john yharim has destroyed

[robust osprey]

it was beacuse xeroc trained a lot until they absorbed the soul

and still training

[limpid saddle]

Saving this because it makes my idea work thematically

[robust osprey]

I think pre ascension xeroc would be 2nd strongest human

below the yhar

I think

[reef wigeon]

It's logical, as in absolutely everything: Training gives Experience, Experience gives knowledge and knowledge gives power

Even great power is useless if you don't know how to use it.

[robust osprey]

and silva

she was probably already strong as fuck

[split mortar]

Full elemental and all

[reef wigeon]

And there are beings that are more powerful than the gods because of their training.

[robust osprey]

yup

yharim is above 99% of gods

being a human

[snow mountain]

if i hear someone say training one more time i will tear out the t key on their keyboards

[reef wigeon]

The Terrarian, Yharim, Draedon (he is pure trial and error, literally) and Calamitas (partly, since her power was already greater than that of the gods if I'm not mistaken)

[split mortar]

Why does thee hate the word training

[robust osprey]

her

[split mortar]

-# i forgor

[robust osprey]

power

[snow mountain]

it annoys me greatly

[robust osprey]

me when people misgender a fictional character

[limpid saddle]

Me when misgender the character the game is named after

[snow mountain]

mod

[mighty zenith]

me when people misgender the roboticized plague bee

[split mortar]

Then why should they have the power???

[snow mountain]

its like 'oh yeah yharim is still training in the aerie' what is there to do there??

[mighty zenith]

sorry youre not allowed to get strong besides power ups that change your hair

[snow mountain]

does he have a bench press

[mighty zenith]

thems the rules

[snow mountain]

is he just lifting

[robust osprey]

well he can punch everything and nothing will happen

[split mortar]

The aerie is practically invincible to yharim

[robust osprey]

so he can infinitely punch a random tree

[snow mountain]

that is not a particularly effective training regimen

[robust osprey]

maybe he has an exo training buddy

[split mortar]

Yharon was in the aerie aswell for a while

[pliant ruin]

i hate the clueless emoji

people dont even use it properly

[snow mountain]

coach draedon

[split mortar]

[robust osprey]

[pliant ruin]

stabs both of you

[split mortar]

They clueless on how to use it

[robust osprey]

dies

[snow mountain]

unless you are in tmodcord

in which case the correct usage is more common

[pliant ruin]

thats nice

[split mortar]

What is its proper use then?

[snow mountain]

the tmod lore goes deep, theres like two collections of screenshots

[pliant ruin]

its called the clueless emoji you use it when you want to imply someone is clueless

[robust osprey]

I do NOT want to dive in tmodcord lore

[split mortar]

I often use it when im clueless or lavking in info
Or being sarcastic

[pliant ruin]

you just use it on like every message

[snow mountain]

funniest shit ever though

[robust osprey]

he is always sarcastic

[split mortar]

Proof?

[limpid saddle]

You do use it alot

[split mortar]

[snow mountain]

this is true

[pliant ruin]

https://gyazo.com/1386b2cf5d8d04bf12d7625a23ce39ad

[robust osprey]

now melon is going to jail

[pliant ruin]

this is just the first page

[snow mountain]

at least half of it is vaema btw

[dusk laurel]

hell torture

[robust osprey]

he must be clueful

[split mortar]

PFFFT

[limpid saddle]

Willing to bet at least 30% of that is just him reacting to my messages

[dusk laurel]

[pliant ruin]

stand ready for my worm, arrival

[split mortar]

I have used clueless 257 times in lore chat

[pliant ruin]

stand arrival for my ready, worm

stand 🧍

[split mortar]

Don quixote hair boom

[robust osprey]

yhorm reference?

[pliant ruin]

worm 🪱

[snow mountain]

THE RECLUSIVE LORD OF THE PROFANED CAPITAL, YHORM THE GIANT

[robust osprey]

is yhorm a giant worm

[pliant ruin]

isnt yhorm the king of giants

or am i mistaking it with another guy

[robust osprey]

yes but also yharim worm

yhorm

[reef wigeon]

If the new Yharon isn't a worm, I don't want that update to ever come out.

[robust osprey]

they shouls make xeroc a worm

[pliant ruin]

someone designed that

[reef wigeon]

I need to see it please

[robust osprey]

xerorm

[reef wigeon]

And noxorm

[pliant ruin]

someone on reddit made it idk

[robust osprey]

it's glorious

[cloud ibex]

elden beast

[pliant ruin]

yeah its the elden beast

youre right

[split mortar]

Axolotl xeroc when

[pliant ruin]

actually the like 3rd image htat shows up when you look up xeroc worm is the elden beast

[snow mountain]

i need someone to mention THE RECLUSIVE LORD OF THE PROFANED CAPITAL, YHORM THE GIANT again

[pliant ruin]

the reclusive lord of the profaned capital, yhorm the giant

[snow mountain]

THE RECLUSIVE LORD OF THE PROFANED CAPITAL, YHORM THE GIANT

god the DS3 intro fucks

[split mortar]

Welcome to lore chat

[robust osprey]

I lov lore chat

[limpid saddle]

Oh thats cool it kinda resembles some depictions of the ouroborous & world serpent

[limpid saddle]

Its such a shame the rest of the game doesnt

[cosmic zenith]

Yhorm is the Castaway

[limpid saddle]

Outside of like lore i'll give it lore

[cosmic zenith]

Oh
The other Yhorm

[cosmic zenith]

This is cool as fuck btw

[limpid saddle]

I know right?

[snow mountain]

i will kill you

i prefer ds2 but

[limpid saddle]

I will kill on this hill

Die, if i must

[cosmic zenith]

Clean your shelf

[cloud ibex]

ds3 is cool but i didn't really like the exploration that much

[reef wigeon]

My Terrarian headcannon is always canon because it's me?

[cloud ibex]

which is a shame cause exploration is what i like the most in games

[limpid saddle]

I also didnt like how everything was grey & smeared in shit

[mighty zenith]

you're telling me a dark soulsed this 3?

[limpid saddle]

The other games use a far more interesting colour palette

[snow mountain]

that is zrue

[limpid saddle]

While still managing to evoke the idea of a dying world

[reef wigeon]

We could think about how fun the fight against Xeroc could be?

Yes, it has magic and everything, but if the primordial light can also replicate objects, imagine Xeroc using our own weapons throughout the fight.

[snow mountain]

that has to be the worst idea ive ever heard

[limpid saddle]

go play WOTG & then come back & then think about it on your own time

[snow mountain]

implementation wise

[pliant ruin]

hell code

[pastel bay]

Mimic fights are cool but very easily cheesable

[pliant ruin]

unless it was just a visual thing

if it's just visual it's probably not that bad but hten it's like lame and y would you go through the extra effort

just for that

[reef wigeon]

I can't... :(

[manic coral]

yeah that's the main reason I VERY rarely go back and replay DS3 and why I kinda like it the least out of any of the From "soulslike" games

[limpid saddle]

Also our weapons are lame as hell in comparison to the shit Xeroc could do

[manic coral]

Exploration wise it's just WAY weaker than the other games

[pastel bay]

Remove all equipment, start the fight, re equip all your stuff.

Insanely unlikely the mimic enemy changes too, because it would be a nightmare to keep it enjoyable with how often we swap shit around

[limpid saddle]

its so true

[manic coral]

Given

[reef wigeon]

In fact, yes, it would be visual. Programming it is horrible.

[manic coral]

DS3 is funny becuase i think it has the opposite problem DS1 has

DS1 has the problem of the 2nd half of the game being notably a bit weka comapred to the first half

[pastel bay]

Besides. The idea lends itself better to Draedon than Xeroc

[manic coral]

Menawhile the first half of DS3 is notably weak comapred to the rest of the game

the difference is, at least in DS1, I can still have fun messing around with a later game build at least in said part of the game

[limpid saddle]

I'd say DS2 has the strongest start in pulling you in

[reef wigeon]

I was thinking about that too

[limpid saddle]

With a weak middle point after the climax of the first like 40% of the game (Drangleic Castle) & then picks up again around Dragon Aerie

[river python]

Uh.. what happened to lore discussion

[mighty zenith]

dark souls discussion

[pastel bay]

Idk elden ring had a good start (I've played none of the other souls games and am maybe nearly halfway through elden ring I didn't realize you could ignore the sentinel at the start)

[mighty zenith]

i dont understand anything,,, i dont play souls games,,, (i should)

[limpid saddle]

we're talking about dark souls now

[split mortar]

Normal stuff

[manic coral]

Maybe nearly halfway

[snow mountain]

i prefer DS2 because of aldia dropping literal fire beats and also the trans coffin

[limpid saddle]

I got to Morgott & then just completely fell off of Elden Ring

[manic coral]

I mean for a frme of refernece my first elden ring playthrough, tryign to be fairly thorough, was

[limpid saddle]

It's really good but it's just not for me

[manic coral]

103 hours

[snow mountain]

mine was 130

[reef wigeon]

And about my horrible idea after thinking about it again

[snow mountain]

i haven't been able to fully replay it

[manic coral]

DLC when that came out was 31 iirc

SotE is funny because

It's a DLC

The size of a normal dark souls game

[snow mountain]

i liked sote less than base ER

[pastel bay]

I dunno how long the game actually is I managed to go in mostly blind. In terms of main story I'd say close to half, exploration wise I'm nowhere close

[limpid saddle]

Aldia is the absolute peak of dark souls in writing, themes, & character

[manic coral]

Fromsoft hid a whole game inside of my DLC

[pastel bay]

40 hours in

[snow mountain]

he was added in an update too

[manic coral]

What's with all the best characters in these games being on fire

Aldia

Gwyn

Messmer

[snow mountain]

honestly, a ds2 remake in about a decade would hit perfectly

[limpid saddle]

Gywn is a take it or leave it for me

[pliant ruin]

is there any lore you want to talk about

[manic coral]

(Messmer is goated 2nd best boss in the series)

[snow mountain]

this is real

[manic coral]

Done much in Caelid yet?

[snow mountain]

great music too

[pastel bay]

I hate caelid how did they make a poison type worse than one could imagine.

[manic coral]

I like Caelid it very much grew on me as i explored it more

except the giant birds

[pastel bay]

It's steadily growing on me, but also they made a Scarlet rot swamp and though "this is a good idea."

[manic coral]

stupid ass giant birds

[snow mountain]

in my playthrough I went straight to liurnia and ignored all of the bosses

[split mortar]

The place i refer to as hell?
Watched my friend get yoinked to there from a chest teleporting thing

[pastel bay]

I carry a bow at all times they're not the worst

[snow mountain]

god bless wales

[manic coral]

I'll leave you with just an omninious correction

"a scarlet rot swamp"

[pastel bay]

Oh god

[reef wigeon]

Who would win in this fight?

1. A being that was sealed by auric dragons, losing much of its body but still with great power: Moonlord
2. Birb:Dragonfolly

[robust osprey]

moonlord

[snow mountain]

john moonlors

[manic coral]

Dragonfolly might not be a boss in the future there's been a little bit of talk about making it an event, instead

[split mortar]

Moonlord woild win on the basis folly wouldnt figure out how to hurt them

[robust osprey]

birb cannot figure how to actually damage moonlord

[split mortar]

Folly event growing in possibility???!!!

[reef wigeon]

That's what everyone says, until Birb unleashes his true power...

[pliant ruin]

please

[manic coral]

Indeed

[split mortar]

YOOO

[robust osprey]

FLY, MY PRETTIES!

[pliant ruin]

the cheese folly event agenda spreads further into the roots of calamity

[reef wigeon]

U L T I M A T E B I R B

[pliant ruin]

all according to plan

[manic coral]

honestly i think if we do do that we should really just call it the same thing as the theme name

[split mortar]

THE MURDERSWARM COULD BE REAL

[manic coral]

The Murderswarm

but anyways

[split mortar]

Mruderswarm

[manic coral]

hey cheese can you ban Melon rq

[split mortar]

NOOOO

[robust osprey]

I agree

[split mortar]

[hoary berry]

you had a good run

[pliant ruin]

:adios:

[split mortar]

THE TERRARIANS LORE IS UP TO YO-

[reef wigeon]

Queso, nooooo

[hoary berry]

lmao

[manic coral]

also hhhhhhhhhh 3 hours until rain world dlc

hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[robust osprey]

beautiful final words

[manic coral]

i dont wanna keep waiting

[hoary berry]

and i still haven't finished a single pt of rain world!

banned gun

[robust osprey]

you have 3 hours

[reef wigeon]

Please don't ban gun...

[robust osprey]

too late

[reef wigeon]

Well, what did he do?

[snow mountain]

its either going to be peak or the most rushed thing ever

[manic coral]

i mena from everything that's been shown

[magic epoch]

rain world dlc on my birthday?!?!

[manic coral]

i mena fucking what

sky whales exist now

[magic epoch]

it's a sign ineed to get the game...

[stoic gulch]

Ye

I can also get the game

[limpid saddle]

Yooo Dragonfolly event?

[pliant ruin]

cei did you see the new madoka gambling game thats coming out

[robust osprey]

ask for the game as birthday gift

[split mortar]

Ok actually gtg now because lesson
Bye goobers in phone

[hoary berry]

goodbye banned gun

[manic coral]

happy birthday :D

also cya melon

[stoic gulch]

Finally he got banned

[robust osprey]

MADOKA GAMBLING?!?!

[stoic gulch]

Smh my head

[pliant ruin]

happy birthday amethyst

[robust osprey]

peak

[reef wigeon]

So... That was the ban?

[cloud ibex]

[stoic gulch]

(This is a joke)

[hoary berry]

[manic coral]

hello BITCH

[stoic gulch]

^

[manic coral]

:/

[cloud ibex]

WOW

[reef wigeon]

We will remember you, banned gun...

[cloud ibex]

fucked up honestly.

[cosmic zenith]

Happy birthday!!

[cloud ibex]

i have done NOTHING wrong

[manic coral]

exactly

i'm fucked up and evil and mean

[robust osprey]

exist

[cloud ibex]

[cosmic zenith]

Hello Cei!

[manic coral]

hi stip!

[stoic gulch]

That’s a bit too far,,,

[manic coral]

i am waiting

[reef wigeon]

Eh... Japi veeeerde shuyu

[reef wigeon]

(Hispanic meme sorryyyyyyy)

[mighty zenith]

good girl

[manic coral]

i will fucking bite off that hand

[mighty zenith]

try it bitch

i'll pet you anyway

[stoic gulch]

It’s clearly a noodle

[mighty zenith]

i'll pet you with a stub

[manic coral]

garbo a friend literlaly bit me while i was visiting her and you know what i did?

i bit her back harder

[cloud ibex]

are you a dog

[mighty zenith]

you think that'd stop me?

[cosmic zenith]

Normalize being a pit of darkness whose void slowly encroaches towards its sunlit surroundings 😊

[mighty zenith]

ive patted dogs that could bite my hand clean off and didnt

[pliant ruin]

Normalize uhm meow

[cloud ibex]

no

[mighty zenith]

im the dog whisperer

[manic coral]

one times a dog was chasing me whiel i was carryign drinks home and barking at me and i also sovled that by

[cloud ibex]

[manic coral]

barking back at it

but louder than it

[reef wigeon]

Hey, for the devs, when I have enough money, I'll make a donation :)

[manic coral]

and it went away

[stoic gulch]

This reminds me of the time I thought it was four corner week but it was actually basketball week and when a teacher told me it was basketball week I bit the guy that said it was basketball week

[pliant ruin]

give me money im a developer

hi im developer for calamity. give me money

[stoic gulch]

Not the teacher

[pliant ruin]

mrrroww

[stoic gulch]

Nya

[reef wigeon]

...khe

[reef wigeon]

(another Hispanic meme LMAO)

[mighty zenith]

is that fabsol calamity m

[manic coral]

people say the water is turning people gya but it's actually my writing apparently

[cosmic zenith]

Every time a dog seemed aggressive I just stood my ground without panicking and they left me alone

[manic coral]

side effect: cat

[cosmic zenith]

Can't handle my aura....

[pliant ruin]

hi hello it is me fabsol calamity

[reef wigeon]

(that's "wha" in Spanish)

[pliant ruin]

i made a the mod

i cook a da boss fights

[manic coral]

fabsol isnt an aethetic :/

[pliant ruin]

i was already a cat before so on that regard your writing didnt affect me actually but its true

[cosmic zenith]

WHERE'S GORTHUS AND WHAT DID YOU DO TO HIM

[manic coral]

no it just gave you an extra stack of cat

[pliant ruin]

mew

[mighty zenith]

gorthus was consumed

[manic coral]

the invincible fandom has ruined me

i where "WHERE" in all caps

[pliant ruin]

WHERES OMNIM

[reef wigeon]

Hey, how do I explain that Nameless Deity gave me an Auric soul?

[manic coral]

and my mind immediatly went to

[mighty zenith]

are you s

[manic coral]

"WHERE IS OMNI-MAN"

[pliant ruin]

WGERE US GE

[mighty zenith]

alright thats it im watching invincible

[cosmic zenith]

I am very clearly not a cat
*Looks at April Fools pfp*
It's close enough I guess

[mighty zenith]

i need to understand the context

[pliant ruin]

HEL´P IML AUGHING

[manic coral]

DO

it's amazing

also

[pliant ruin]

WHERE IS OMNIMAN WHJERE ISHE

[manic coral]

it's hilariouis how

Deltarune fans claim to be going insnae, but

they aren't

they're just sorta forcing it

[limpid saddle]

Yooo Dragonfolly event?

[thick slate]

SEA SALT

[reef wigeon]

Cei, what is Embers about? I haven't read it yet.

[manic coral]

and not even well

[limpid saddle]

Invincible & Batman Arkham fans are going insane

[manic coral]

the INVINCIBLE fnadom is forcing it well

[stoic gulch]

Cei,,, I remember you’re CALAMITY LORE WRITER!!!

[limpid saddle]

why did that post 20 minutes late

[cosmic zenith]

Here is my invincible war oc his name is gorthusible

[mighty zenith]

they get constant updates

[thick slate]

I NEED YOU SEA SALT

[mighty zenith]

there is no reason for them to act insane

[limpid saddle]

Are you sure?

[manic coral]

it took TWO WEEKS after season 3 came out to descend into full insanity

[mighty zenith]

deltarune is releasing in like a week or something

[limpid saddle]

3 weeks no invincible

[thick slate]

https://tenor.com/view/true-true-morgan-freeman-true-conquest-conquest-true-conquest-gif-18084577569699045071

[mighty zenith]

who is that

[stoic gulch]

Nah deltarune tomorrow

[cosmic zenith]

Lmao

[mighty zenith]

i donmt wanan know

[cosmic zenith]

Conquest

[limpid saddle]

Conquest

[mighty zenith]

who

[thick slate]

pookie bear

[pliant ruin]

are you sure

[manic coral]

Conquest

[stoic gulch]

Cecil

I think

[cosmic zenith]

Your mom in pajamas

[mighty zenith]

isnt that like one of hte horsemen

[thick slate]

https://tenor.com/view/conquest-conquest-invincible-invincible-picmix-conquest-heart-gif-4944943692286677562

[limpid saddle]

CECIL

[pliant ruin]

are you sure

[cosmic zenith]

LMAO

[limpid saddle]

I NEED YOU CECIL

[mighty zenith]

:(

[pliant ruin]

are you sure

[limpid saddle]

vitrumite

[thick slate]

https://tenor.com/view/invincible-cecil-stedman-cecil-gif-3140434501122674162

[limpid saddle]

he is very lonely

[thick slate]

i love cecil

[mighty zenith]

is that like a disease

[thick slate]

sea ssalt is my favourite character

[stoic gulch]

Ihhh that’s Cecil

[limpid saddle]

i had a pretty interesting day...

[mighty zenith]

conjunctivitis

[thick slate]

he looks like joe biden

[reef wigeon]

When I get a PC, I'll challenge myself to beat the mod to the beat of the music.

[thick slate]

and hes like "mark listen to me"

[manic coral]

to quote my mother after finishing Season 1:

ok cecil earned the "babygirl" gif

[cosmic zenith]

His head seems sculpted perfectly to receive catgirl ears

[pliant ruin]

are you sure

[thick slate]

hes sso pookie

[mighty zenith]

im leaving

[manic coral]

he's WHAT pookie

[mighty zenith]

this chat is too

filthy

[thick slate]

NO

\

[manic coral]

pretty sure

[stoic gulch]

Like

Something

Sunken

[reef wigeon]

Oh god it's fabsol!

[cosmic zenith]

Sso 🤔

[stoic gulch]

Something

Sea

[thick slate]

sealamity overhaul

[stoic gulch]

Something

Overhaul

[reef wigeon]

I'LL GIVE YOU ALL MY MONEY

[pliant ruin]

are you sure

[reef wigeon]

(when I have money)

[cosmic zenith]

Sterile Subreddit Overdose

[mighty zenith]

WHAT IS HAPPENING

[manic coral]

also know this

[pliant ruin]

are you sure

[manic coral]

they managed to canonize the fortnite crossover event

[limpid saddle]

are you sure

[mighty zenith]

huh

the what now

[pliant ruin]

are you sure

[mighty zenith]

they managed to what the who

😭

[reef wigeon]

are you sure you say are you sure

[manic coral]

yes

[cosmic zenith]

We're high on someone's invincible war oc, the indigestible

[stoic gulch]

are you sure you’re are you sure

[cloud ibex]

the rot

💔

[manic coral]

the Fortntie crossover somehow worked out as beign canonized

[mighty zenith]

everything here is gibberish

[cosmic zenith]

Yep

[thick slate]

https://tenor.com/view/invincible-the-immortal-flying-away-sadly-sad-fly-betrayed-gif-12155871162217262289

[pliant ruin]

are you sure

[cosmic zenith]

Peak shit

[reef wigeon]

IS THAT A YHARON REFERENCE!?

[stoic gulch]

are YOU sure?

[thick slate]

immortal got sent home

[manic coral]

but yeah please watch Invincible

[pliant ruin]

help me

[mighty zenith]

gmod noclipping

[thick slate]

yea

[cosmic zenith]

You could say it's Irresistible

[stoic gulch]

No

👎

[mighty zenith]

thats inconcievable

[thick slate]

https://tenor.com/view/thragg-invincible-haircut-viltrimite-gif-17753078609829708868

[mighty zenith]

im tired

[reef wigeon]

The community is ascending beyond your control, or was that all your intention?

[cosmic zenith]

Hi tired I'm StipulateVenus

[mighty zenith]

you will be boiled into a fine stew

[stoic gulch]

I want a stew now

[reef wigeon]

They managed to canonize the Fortnite event

[stoic gulch]

I’m hungry enough to eat a horse stew

[pliant ruin]

ok im brekaing free

[manic coral]

do it

save the awesome lesbian couple

[thick slate]

who up stipulating their venus

[stoic gulch]

Are you sure?

[limpid saddle]

what if it was an awesome horse couple

& an evil intimidating lesbian

[manic coral]

i'm the evil and intimidating lesbian

[dusk laurel]

petag

[reef wigeon]

But you are not able to comprehend

[stoic gulch]

All woman are intimidating not evil tho

[mighty zenith]

the horse is here

[dusk laurel]

🐴

[stoic gulch]

You know I could go for some horse

[thick slate]

how horsey

[pliant ruin]

no more

im free

[manic coral]

hi free

i'm cei

[mighty zenith]

are you sure

[reef wigeon]

Horse riding a horse

[pliant ruin]

hi cei

[stoic gulch]

Cool pfp

[manic coral]

you havent even watched Invincible yet and the brainrot is consuming you

[stoic gulch]

Idk if calyrex identifies like a girl but yass queen

[limpid saddle]

Are you sure?

[reef wigeon]

Saying "are you sure" so many times isn't spam?

[cloud ibex]

wretched fate

[mighty zenith]

because thats all you fuckers were saying like 5 minutes ago

[manic coral]

Are you sure?

[stoic gulch]

Technically it was the name of cheese

[mighty zenith]

mod abuse 🥰

[reef wigeon]

Yes, I'm sure.

[limpid saddle]

Are you sure?

[reef wigeon]

Yes

[cloud ibex]

i'm planting c4 under your chair

[limpid saddle]

Are you sure?

[stoic gulch]

Guhooey

[dusk laurel]

are you sure

[reef wigeon]

I am more sure of this than to say that nameless deity gave me an Auric soul.

[pliant ruin]

are you sure

[limpid saddle]

Are you sure

[pliant ruin]

what the fuck is happening

[reef wigeon]

I'm training right now

[cloud ibex]

scratch that i'm planting c4 in this channel

all of you are being sent to cmt

[pliant ruin]

is this hell

[stoic gulch]

Can I get one to eat

[limpid saddle]

SEA SALT

[reef wigeon]

I don't know, are you sure something's going on?

[dusk laurel]

hell torture

[limpid saddle]

I NEED YOU SEA SALT

[dusk laurel]

death

be upon ye

[cloud ibex]

lore discussion

[cosmic minnow]

Are you ready for his arrival tho

[reef wigeon]

Maybe this is a dream

[pliant ruin]

i wish it was

[thick slate]

FUCK

[gritty kraken]

You need to wake up

Is that boulder gate

[pliant ruin]

damn

[dusk laurel]

[reef wigeon]

Wake up

[cosmic minnow]

Baldurs gate moment

[reef wigeon]

Wake up

[cosmic minnow]

How

[reef wigeon]

It's not real, it's not real

[limpid saddle]

WHERE IS OMNI-MAN

[gritty kraken]

you must ascend every living beings

[limpid saddle]

WHERE IS HE

[pliant ruin]

i hereby apologize for derailing lore chat into complete insanity brainrot

[manic coral]

are you shore?

[gritty kraken]

Are you su

[cloud ibex]

all of you are exploding

[pliant ruin]

you see

[manic coral]

kaboom

[cloud ibex]

💥 💥💥💥💥💥💥

[pliant ruin]

theres this small secret about myself

very few people know

i am actually extremely mentally ill

i know, shocker

[manic coral]

no way same

[cloud ibex]

no we knew

[limpid saddle]

are you sure

[gritty kraken]

Why didn’t fovos get himself some hat to warm his brain

[reef wigeon]

In the past you ascend and You look down below, A reflection of exactly how far you've come

[dusk laurel]

lore

[manic coral]

honeslt yi havent really wrote anything the past week

[dusk laurel]

yummers

[manic coral]

i dont even have anythign to share

[pliant ruin]

i ahvent done anything prodfuctive hte past week either twinning

[manic coral]

too many new games and shit coming out that i wanna play

Xenoblade X remake

rain world DLC

[pliant ruin]

atleast im moving out soon

like a week