lore-discussion

[split mortar]

Xeroc literally says yharim makes them second doubt their own power

[robust osprey]

like his ass wasn't there to see what actually happened

[keen oyster]

wait when

[robust osprey]

he just blindly trust in his friend

[split mortar]

Boss rush dialogue

[keen oyster]

im too bad to do that yet

[reef wigeon]

Let's be honest, the real test isn't the boss rush, it's understanding Xeroc's dialogue while you fight.

[robust osprey]

friend that was clearly in one side

a side completly contrary to xeroc

[keen oyster]

its nohitting it actually

[wheat fjord]

when was dis

[split mortar]

Boss rush

[wheat fjord]

ic

[reef wigeon]

The bosses or their dialogues?

[young socket]

ah yes

nohitting dialogue

[split mortar]

Hard to do

I always get hit

[manic coral]

calamity players alreayd do that on the regular

[young socket]

meow

i mean

hi cei

[manic coral]

hello :D

[split mortar]

Caught in 4K

Hai cei

[robust osprey]

hello cei

[young socket]

cei just has that presence

[robust osprey]

how's your day

[young socket]

to turn girls into catgirls

[split mortar]

I mean
Fair enough

[young socket]

or just

[manic coral]

and good bye because Alatreon from Monster Hunter: World

[young socket]

anyone into catgirls

[robust osprey]

bye cei

[wheat fjord]

do we know if yharim is stronger than noxus?

[split mortar]

Cant post the image of the maul children poster 💔

[young socket]

he isnt

[reef wigeon]

Hi Cei

:3

[dusk laurel]

bye cei

[robust osprey]

noxus is stronger

[manic coral]

maul children, more like maul me and rebecca in about 15 minutes

[split mortar]

Yharim would make noxus have to try
But would lose

[young socket]

if u ever ask urself "can boss 1 beat boss 2" just look at progression

[robust osprey]

tbf neither yharim nor noxus are in the mod

[dusk laurel]

^

[split mortar]

We know the progression it will be tho

[wheat fjord]

ive been told that xeroc wipes prime fovos while noxus does not. and yharim needs an army to barely beat fovos. but noxus is stronger than yharim and yet xeroc still second guesses his own power.

[robust osprey]

maybe they didn't know

[limpid saddle]

cei i was thinking about doing a piece with Calamitas Clone & the brother constructs but im struggling on how to visualise them that isn't semi-circle, how would you (or open to the floor here chat) interpret what they would look like

[wheat fjord]

idk doesnt line up to me unless xeroc just overestimates yharim

[robust osprey]

yes prime fovos is stronger than noxus and weaker than xeroc

[split mortar]

Tbf yharim existed for
A centure and thirty years
And can, uh
Rivale zeratros

[dusk laurel]

yharim < noxus < ML pre-weakening < xeroc

[reef wigeon]

Where does the meme come from?

[limpid saddle]

like what details would C.C get right or wrong, what's the most defining traits that would 100% shine through & which ones would be more muddled

[robust osprey]

failure

[young socket]

i like to think that calclone looks like wat peoples perceptions of calamitas are

[wheat fjord]

wait im tired nm shi lines up perfectly

[young socket]

a humanoid monster with no thoughts of mercy

[wheat fjord]

common dort L

[robust osprey]

the power gap between all those isn't that big iirc

[split mortar]

According to dev statements
Yharim grows concerningly quick when training for a stronger opponent, they did beat the strongest not xeroc god like half way through the crusade afterall and then stagnated

[limpid saddle]

Oh no i've already done my own interpretation of Calamitas Clone #general-media message I meant the brothers

the constructs

[young socket]

o

uhh

[split mortar]

Yharim is city level

Xeroc oneshots mount everest minimum iirc

[wheat fjord]

yharim might NOT be a bum if he trained for xeroc

[young socket]

a lot of bones n stuff in the shape of the real versions

but not looking exactly like them

[split mortar]

I mean
Exos rival yharim when they just got exo auric yet theyre decently stronger just months later:3

[young socket]

itd be like trying to do a picture puzzle, but u dont have any puzzle pieces of the picture ur trying to make

[robust osprey]

I can only think about infernum versions

[young socket]

so u just throw in random shit that somewhat looks like them

[robust osprey]

calbros' shadows

[limpid saddle]

That's fair, it is what one would immidestly go to

[split mortar]

So i think yharim was

[limpid saddle]

But I think there's something really unique that can be done with the designs but I just don't see quite what

[young socket]

i dont like the infernum calclone brothers cuz they look like smaller versions of the brothers which is realistically not wat theyd look like

[robust osprey]

true, it's a fucked up clone using even more fucked up magic (necromancy)

[young socket]

i do

however

[split mortar]

Calclone and scal both use necromamcy

[young socket]

think they made calclone look good

and the way i imagine it

[limpid saddle]

I see what Tsuki is saying with the bones thing though, maybe to replicate their larger stature some of the bones are broken & attatched to other copies of the same bone to recreate their length

[young socket]

or atleast somewhat

[robust osprey]

it's what I said

[limpid saddle]

So like Cataclysm's spine is all bent in & fucked up because it's actually like 3 different spines spliced together

[pastel bay]

Make them more decayed and decrepit than the well armored and put together Supreme Brothers

[young socket]

YEEAAA

this

totally

[limpid saddle]

cough cough not fucked up cough cough just insane COUGH

[pastel bay]

Really lean hard into necromancy n stuff

[reef wigeon]

What do you think would win?

1. Calamitas if you take away any spell books from him and she gets angry
2. Draedon with a Nerf gun powered by Exo plasma

[robust osprey]

idk if it's a good idea but maybe one of the bros has one of his arms replaces with a bunch of tentscles or something?

just an idea I had

[split mortar]

Draedon would fuck her up

[limpid saddle]

Max imma be real I dont see the vision

[split mortar]

She is a regular ass human without magic iirc

[robust osprey]

[robust osprey]

yeah

she is just average ~28 yo girl without magic (in terms of power)

and with a high resistance to heat, probably

[reef wigeon]

Yes, I think the same... But if you give Calamitas a nerf gun with brimstone Magic?

[pulsar ocean]

Pre ascension xeroc was melee right

[split mortar]

Prob mage

Or mage melee mix

[young socket]

we dont know

[reef wigeon]

Possibly a strange mix between Melee and Mage, considering he was a Monk and had a spear of (probably) Auric Tesla

[limpid saddle]

wh-

[robust osprey]

tf

[limpid saddle]

What would possibly make you assume his spear was made out of auric

[split mortar]

I can send the ore ascension art of xeroc in spoiler

[split mortar]

Attuned to a dragon

[limpid saddle]

I thought auric like the material didnt exist until dragons started getting shot dead in the streets

[reef wigeon]

The fact that he is literally a dragon monk, and it is quite possible that they will grant Auric Tesla to these

[pulsar ocean]

Xeroc could only mine auric after zeratros was slain that's how it works

[young socket]

no it existed before

[pulsar ocean]

He couldn't have used auric before

[young socket]

their mask is auric too

[split mortar]

Dragons died before moonlord

[dusk laurel]

^

[split mortar]

Yharon soawns auric and they come back eventually

So normal auric dragon deaths would make it

[dusk laurel]

yharon also could revive other dragons

[limpid saddle]

& they just harvested that shit???

[dusk laurel]

yeah

[split mortar]

They could have

[pulsar ocean]

Just download vein miner

[limpid saddle]

No opposition from the other auric dragons for humans to be making fits outta it?

[reef wigeon]

I think the condition isn't really that the dragons die, it's that you are worthy of mining it or having it.

[dusk laurel]

get humans to harvest it for you

simple

[pulsar ocean]

Why do u need dragon soul frags to make auric bars

[limpid saddle]

To prevent rejection

You cant make armor out of a material that will literally grill you if you try to wear it

[reef wigeon]

As far as I know, there is no confirmation that Auric Tesla did not exist before, we only know that it is a mineral that manifests itself through the power of Dragons.

[young socket]

the only people who could use it were people who were attuned

so yes

they had very explicit permission

[limpid saddle]

Alright which dev statement is this from?

[young socket]

i believe cei has stated it

[reef wigeon]

None, we just theorize about this based on current information, at least that's how I do it.

And by the way, did everyone ignore the fact that the mineral itself tells you it's only for the worthy or something?

[dusk laurel]

you can kinda

figure it out

on your own

[young socket]

the worthy are for the attuned people

and

the auric dragons too

but thats a given

[reef wigeon]

Well, exactly. Let's just say Yharon didn't want to activate the Auric Tesla for the Terrarian. When we killed him and got part of his soul, we were "worthy."

[limpid saddle]

That the like 1 person who we cant even confirm was attuned managed to convince the other Auric Dragons to be chill with him basically harvesting the equivalent of Auric Dragon fossil fuels so he could make a mask out of it like he's fuckin doctor doom?

[split mortar]

Auric rejects us tho

[young socket]

the terrarian isnt attuned

[split mortar]

We arent worthy

[limpid saddle]

felix what the fuck are you talking about

[young socket]

u just force yharons soul into it, pacifying it

[split mortar]

Why do you think auric ore yeets you on contact

Thats the rejection

[reef wigeon]

I never said that. Well, I'm confusing everyone, including myself, so I'll just let the crowd stay in its own paranoia.

Bye bye

[pulsar ocean]

The guy who had slain the gluttony dragon could make auric Tesla at like pre hardmode level but he just didn't is he stupid

[split mortar]

Gods get rejected aswell

[young socket]

no because like

y wouldnt u become a god

[limpid saddle]

Yeah that tracks, I guess the other dragons wouldnt leave soul shavings like yharon

[young socket]

ye ud

[split mortar]

Yeah they left the entire soul

[young socket]

use up the entire soul for one piece of armour that u will most likely get stolen the second u die

[split mortar]

Olus even for yharon
To become a god yiu may have to absorb those shavings aswell

[young socket]

plus ud

have to get someone to MAKE auric armour

auric has a high melting point so good luck

[reef wigeon]

Well, one last question before I go: Do we know exactly why humans become more powerful than the original auric dragons by consuming their souls? Does it have something to do with willpower or something?

[limpid saddle]

Soul merge with auric soul

2 souls better than one

[young socket]

they just usually were

[split mortar]

They didnt always get stronger

But, you are mixing the dragons soul with your own, so the outcome is more

[dusk laurel]

zeratros was like their boss

i imagine he was able to convince the others

he would also be able to pummel them anyways so

[split mortar]

Yeah xeroc is strong

[dusk laurel]

i meant zeratros

[split mortar]

Xeroc would also be able to pummel them

[limpid saddle]

I hardly imagine Zeratros was such a tyrant

[dusk laurel]

okay

[split mortar]

They did make the sun scorch the surface of the planet…

[dusk laurel]

its self defense

[limpid saddle]

that he would beat the shit out of someone for thinking 'hey maybe your best friend shouldnt harvest the soul-corpses of our fallen bretheren'

[dusk laurel]

not being a tyrant doesnt mean youre a pacifist

no no

[wheat fjord]

i imagine the talk between yharim and his people when he denied eating yharons soul went a little like mark and omniman

[dusk laurel]

attunement and harvesting raw auric

[reef wigeon]

I think it has to do with the ascendant spirit essence.

I guess shadowspec isn't canon, right?

[dusk laurel]

nope

its a dev item

all dedicated content is not canon

[pulsar ocean]

God damn the sun

[split mortar]

Xeroc legit tuned the sun down after ascending lmao

[robust osprey]

hey I found a drawing that can explain my vision of calbro construct I explained minutes ago can I show u

🥺

[reef wigeon]

About Auric Tesla's spear, I guessed it because of the color tone initially, and then it was strengthened by the fact that it has the "eye of Xeroc" (or the symbol of Zeratros, whatever it's called) behind his head.

[pulsar ocean]

Is calamitas laughing at me during the fight a basecal or a infernum thing

[robust osprey]

it could be gold

[robust osprey]

what laugh

the spawn sound thing?

[limpid saddle]

ok

[robust osprey]

can it be in dms

[split mortar]

Primordial light sigil

[pulsar ocean]

Ha ha ha ha

In a female distorted voice

[split mortar]

Was the eye of xeroc in old lore iirc

[robust osprey]

I think that not canon

[young socket]

basecal

she does when spawning and some other times

[reef wigeon]

Yes yes, I said "whatever it's called." Thanks for telling me.

[limpid saddle]

I mean yeah it seems like it's coated in gold over 'made of auric'

[young socket]

i think her 2nd phase has it

[limpid saddle]

very well

[split mortar]

Considering i didnt correct you on zeratros
Yeah you got thay correct

[reef wigeon]

Can Draedon's Drone really be destroyed at the end of the battle?

I thought it was only from Infernum and WoTG

[young socket]

ye

[robust osprey]

yea

it's a drae body

[reef wigeon]

What do you think the real Draedon looks like, assuming his hologram also looks the same?

[split mortar]

They dont have a real body

Theyre ai

Its just ai in servers and drones

All equally real

[reef wigeon]

We could consider the speed at which his body moves from one continent to another (if his laboratory was still on the same continent)?

Literally does it in seconds just by calling it

And ironically, at the end of the battle he Teleports LMAO

What is this?

Well, I promised to leave, bye

[pastel bay]

Do we still consider calamitas to have a British accent.

[cloud ibex]

i used to not but nowadays comparing azafure to london is funny so yes

[young socket]

azafure and london similarities:
literally hell
industrial revolution hotspot

[cloud ibex]

full of blade-wielding enemies

it simply lines up perfectly

[cosmic zenith]

Azafure secretly has infinite rain from the Abyss like London City of Tears

[cloud ibex]

it just keeps getting more accurate

[cosmic zenith]

Actually ngl this would go hard for the innermost part of the Crags

The wilds

Infinite rain

[cloud ibex]

to be real though crags rain could go kinda hard yeah

i can imagine like

agricultural plots located under the constant rain

or maybe that'd just drown the crops

[young socket]

rains plant and water

or maybe the water itself has the plant nurturing properties idk

[pastel bay]

Bloodborne was a calamity prequel the whole time

[cloud ibex]

well the water is what carries Silva's influence right

[pastel bay]

Yeah

[young socket]

we dont know

[cloud ibex]

or is that basically just a passive AoE around her and the abyss leaking has nothing to do with it

[pastel bay]

We also don't have a time frame for when yharim struck her down

[young socket]

ye

cuz if it was rlly late into the crusade

[pastel bay]

Could've been after azafure burnt and draedon used the sulphur sea as a dumping ground

[young socket]

azafure would essentially have a "drought" of silvas essence

[young socket]

for like

[pastel bay]

Which, might explain why.
Hope the acid burns, and the abyss crushes what's left

[young socket]

very long

honestly

a good false motivation for yharim seeking out silva could be attempting to stop the "drought" that is happening

[cosmic zenith]

The "friendly interactions" within the dev server

Idea shared

[young socket]

this is amazing thank u

[young socket]

also id like to comment more on this idea

while it is more realistic

i do like my idea of plants literally raining down from the abyss and spreading across azafure

im surprised no one has ever had the idea of making plants literally rain

[cloud ibex]

i can imagine the vegetation being much denser in the ceiling of the crags and growing downwards with like

vines and shit

[young socket]

hm

[ionic harness]

It’s loring time

[young socket]

i just thought about it and i was gonna say an idea i had

then i realised it wouldnt make sense

but

[young socket]

brimmy could be directly under the abyss, so ud see a lot of vegetation when u get close to her, and then theres suddenly none at all

to show off how hot she is

literally hot

not

not metaphorically

[ionic harness]

Wait that’s awesome

[robust osprey]

seems pretty friendly to me

[young socket]

ye but it doesnt make sense since abyss is on the far side of the world, while brimmy ingame would be guarding the entryway to the inner parts of the city

so brimmy wont actually be directly under the abyss i dont think

[pastel bay]

Could be resting there to gain energy when there's no danger

[young socket]

anyways

thats enough ideasguying out of me

i think

[pastel bay]

Once the ball gets rolling it's hard to stop

[snow mountain]

personally more of an iron rain fan

[ionic harness]

I wonder if draedon has speakers in the gaming chair

It’s not an ultimate chair unless it has a banging subwoofer

[robust osprey]

exos actually have speakers with exos' theme

I made that up 5 seconds ago it's canon

[split mortar]

This was said in the draedon twitter takeover

[robust osprey]

I didn't know that happened

[cloud ibex]

closing in on exactly a year ago

[young socket]

april 1st so close

i wonder if theyre gonna do anything this year too

[long sand]

whos the weakest cal cha

[cloud ibex]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh amidias maybe?

or the bandit

[young socket]

bandit continues to sell weapons n accs after hardmode

amidias doesnt

[split mortar]

Prob one of the critters

[long sand]

How strong us polter

Is polter like top 20

[split mortar]

In top 10 known characters iirc

[reef wigeon]

Hey, I imagine that in the next update, the miracle matter will be more powerful than currently

[split mortar]

Its already a endgame material?

[reef wigeon]

As far as I remember, no

But it should be, since the shadowspec is supposed to be after Yharim

[young socket]

wat

[split mortar]

Endgame isnt postgame

Also yharim isnt next major update

[reef wigeon]

Oh, I didn't know that, thanks for the info.

[long sand]

Yharim is the next 15

[split mortar]

Yharim is likely the last thing to be added

Thats the plan
Oberhaul and add everything else

[reef wigeon]

I know that, but I say "next update" just as an expression.

[split mortar]

Noxus and xeroc would be post yharim but they aint guaranteed

[reef wigeon]

I hope they are then guaranteed

I assumed about Miracle Matter because of what Draedon said about its unlimited potential.

[young socket]

no

[split mortar]

I mean
Dont mean we can utilise it

We made the first stabilised stuff

Draedon will refine that shit and likely find stuff that far surpasses even that

[long sand]

wild

[split mortar]

How so

[split mortar]

?

[long sand]

idk i'd just expect these two big figures in the in game universe to get smth

[split mortar]

Tbf the reason they arent guaranteed is that its likely the devs

Run out of motivation to work on cal

[pastel bay]

Or they just can't be implemented in a satisfying way

Can be hard to do "gods that dwarf superboss" and scale it in a way that actually makes sense

[dusk laurel]

its definitely gonna be because the motivation is going to run dry

[pastel bay]

wont blame em either

It's insane how much has been done for the mod already

[split mortar]

Yeah

Especially with how imo the community hasnt gotten better since dokuro

[pastel bay]

Almost feels like its gotten worse as it's gotten bigger

Lot more people decided to play mods once it came to steam and didnt require the forums

regardless. Calamity's story is mostly what keeps me coming back. It's nice to see its stabilized, especially compared to when I started

[split mortar]

Wow thanks for the scams

[robust osprey]

where are the mods!!!

[split mortar]

Finally

[pastel bay]

what did I miss

[split mortar]

Scam appeared and got grinded into ribs that we all ate a bit ago

[pastel bay]

You go to fight one Cal clone as an ultra instinct bard and miss the fun stuff

[eager bluff]

polter probably takes up spots from like 20-2000

[fading helm]

I mean unless you take no name characters like the dragons from way back then

Polter is lowkey top 15

Let me see

Xeroc, yharim, noxus, yharon, DoG, calamitas, the player, zeratros, fovos

hell I think he is top 10

depends on how you think gods scale to auric dragons

oh wait prymordial wyrm

yeah he gets left out of top 10

perhaps silva too but we dont really know much about her

other that she is basically unkillable

[long sand]

Just kill her smh

[tepid timber]

Just “im firin mah lazer” the planet lmao XD

[robust osprey]

just do the frieza

boom the planet

[proud tendon]

"I own you! I own this planet! Infact! F*** this planet!!!"

[robust osprey]

also imo the player shouldn't be counted here

terrarian is as powerful as you want it to be

[fading helm]

I mean

[robust osprey]

you can just never kill polter, and never get access to auric armor

[fading helm]

you can still beat DoG tho

also I just take most people´s player

[robust osprey]

but it's more difficult

[fading helm]

a win is a win

Also afaik there are some canon things here and there

obv you can just not mind them tho

like respawn just being gameplay

[robust osprey]

yeah respawning might not be canon

unless you want your oc to have reviving powers

[tepid timber]

Nah that’s kinda lame

[fading helm]

Can make stuff pretty interesting tbh

fanfics like the slayer are peak fr fr

[pliant ruin]

my terrarian oc is called cheese terrarian she can make a mean omelette

[pastel bay]

Hell yeah

Oh God I didn't realize Fandom was actually this bad this almost hurts to read through

[long sand]

I'm surprised provi never tried to attack any big settlements that we know of especially considering her whole goal

[tepid timber]

Yeah cause she’s a bum

[pastel bay]

Probably wanted to nuke the whole world at once

[vocal parrot]

are the tooltips canon

[pastel bay]

As long as its not dedicated content I believe they are

[robust osprey]

she wasn't planning to apply the plan that soon iirc

it takes time..

[pastel bay]

"Great Witch Calitas Jane" nevermind this is hilarious.

[eager bluff]

i mean yes but also take into account hyperbole or exxageration
like atom splitter stealth doesnt ACTUALLY summon things from alternate timelines

[pastel bay]

If it wasn't for all the people who take Fandom as truth I'd be losing it laughing at this who wrote this

[robust osprey]

the community wrote it

without communicating with eachother probably

[pastel bay]

Draedon is organic and is alive because of "the metal gear" after Noxus killed all life on his planet according to this.

This isn't even miscommunication and old lore this is just fanfiction

I needed a laugh like that holy hell

[robust osprey]

no like it was people actively wanting to troll

[pliant ruin]

i mean she definitely did attack big settlements

just not the ones in the continent we play given azafure would've kicked her ass and illmeris was water

[pastel bay]

I just read the words "it's xerocin' time"

Reading that reminded me of the old lore though.

Is he still called The Jungle Tyrant or has the jungle part been dropped

[robust osprey]

not anymore

[dusk laurel]

hes called the godseeker now as his main title

occasionally people still call him the tyrant

[pastel bay]

He just really loves bees now. No ties to them anymore just really really loves them

[robust osprey]

iirc he doesn't love bees that much

but he thinks they're cool

[pastel bay]

Still enough for the plague to drive him and draedon apart

[dusk laurel]

thats more so

yharim not liking slavery

[robust osprey]

yeah yharim is against slavery in general

[pastel bay]

I can cross slavery off his list of war crimes I assume

[robust osprey]

slavery - ❌

killing and torturing houndreds of million of people - ✅

[light linden]

anakin skywalker mentality

[dusk laurel]

so true

[cosmic zenith]

Lorelings rejoice, Vetrasyl's design is progressing again!

And it's all thanks to Mihaii and Mackerdoni

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/958418404769943572/1169611960212525066/Monk_crashed_the_economy.gif

[eager bluff]

who let them cook

[dusk laurel]

a feast

[cosmic zenith]

On top of his luscious locks, we now gave Vetra some beautiful eyes

Can't share them, though

[pastel bay]

[soft geyser]

Dog is British

[pliant ruin]

calamitas is spanish

[robust osprey]

Hola, soy la bruja suprema Calamitas

no...doesn't fit...

[pliant ruin]

azafure is literally a spanish word

azafure is spain

[robust osprey]

maybe it's beacuse "Calamitas" doesn't fit in any spanish sentence

now her name is uh

Maria

[pliant ruin]

Calamitas isn't her real name so

[robust osprey]

ik

[pliant ruin]

reb oepned my eyes the other day

[robust osprey]

what would be a spanish name that fits Scal

[pliant ruin]

bbecause i was giving calmaitas a real name for a roleplay i'm in

and reb was like

ok make her name spanish

and i was ike

holy shit azafure is spain

and yeah

azafure is spain

hell spain

[pliant ruin]

i ended up calling her Valeria

[robust osprey]

Bruja suprema Valeria

sounds fairly good

[vivid ridge]

is it yharon talking in roar of the jungle dragon

[robust osprey]

lyrics are canon, however, yharon doesn't have a voice like that

[crimson junco]

All in le head

[vivid ridge]

yeah but its yharon talking to yharim before the god genocide right

[robust osprey]

he has dragon chords after all

[vivid ridge]

how do u know yharon isnt a talented singer

[robust osprey]

not before god genocide

he is my friend

[vivid ridge]

when is it in the timeline

[robust osprey]

uh, currently

lmao

[vivid ridge]

wdym

"If you proceed, I will not blame you
I will move forth and win your war"

[robust osprey]

it is yharon talking to yharim about YOU

🫵

[vivid ridge]

does yharon not know yharim wants to be killed

[robust osprey]

probably, probably not

[vivid ridge]

ohhh right

[robust osprey]

but yharon doesn't want yharim killed thats for sure

[vivid ridge]

"The enemy ascended beyond your control
Or was that all your intention?"

he doesnt know

[robust osprey]

yharim is literally yharon's only friend

and yharon will live for a long, long, really long time

alone

[vivid ridge]

okay i get it now

[robust osprey]

yharon will eventually come back in a couple of decades

and yharim will be no more by then

so yhardepression

[sinful adder]

The lyrics aren't perfectly canon because they were made before the lore rewrite, but the general idea of them is canon

Specific phrases aren't quite right

[vivid ridge]

yeah i noticed that

[deft valve]

its ok

we can kill him again

[humble fog]

what will you have after 500 years yharon

[limpid saddle]

the question doth become who says that to him

Permafrost or the Terrarian

[sinful adder]

This reminds me yet again, I want to know what happens many years later

[pliant ruin]

do note

yharim dosen't really "want to be killed"

hes not suicidal

hes just willing to die if it means his mission lives on, through you

less suicide more sacrifice

unfortunately im just beating him to death with a rock and then going to smoke a blunt with xeroc

[mighty zenith]

so real

[latent bolt]

im beating yharim to death with a rock and then beating xeroc to death with yharim's skull

[vivid ridge]

im being xeroc to death with a rock and then smoking a blunt with yharim

[pliant ruin]

pensive

[limpid saddle]

I wonder what Yharim would do if he finally finished The Crusades

[latent bolt]

yharim gets drunk if he succeeds, gets drunk if he fails

[split mortar]

Fun fact
Cei plans on writing a side story like embers where this exact thing happens!

[vivid ridge]

is it even possible for yharim to kill the remaining gods

assuming he still has his whole army with dog and everything

[limpid saddle]

He could kill off every last one excusing Xeroc

[split mortar]

Apart from xeroc
Yes

Yharon can prob solo all the remainjng alive gods in 1v1

[latent bolt]

if he didnt kick out draedon and was able to keep permafrost and calamitas, he could absolutely have a shot at winning the crusade

[limpid saddle]

& even then if he juiced hard enough it's not a fight he can win but he'd probably inflict permeneant damage on Xeroc

[vivid ridge]

whats stopping his army from killing xeroc

[split mortar]

Xeroc being fuck you levels of atrong

Strong

[limpid saddle]

Xeroc scales denotably above everything in Calamity

[pliant ruin]

yharim should just pay me a billion dollars to kill xeroc

i'd do that for a billion dollars

[split mortar]

Literally the unmatched power of the sun

Xeroc is unmatched and has the power of the sun

[vivid ridge]

dog could theoretically kill
him though

[limpid saddle]

& something something 'oh he could just make light constructs of his army' as the boring stupid loser answer for boring stupid losers

[vivid ridge]

isnt dog uncapped with scaling

[pliant ruin]

no

[limpid saddle]

How in under god could DoG pull off killing Xeroc?

[limpid saddle]

No thats old lore

[vivid ridge]

ah okay

[limpid saddle]

He doesnt get stronger by eating things anymore

[pliant ruin]

hes just dumb

[split mortar]

Old lore was where dog absorbed others power

[pliant ruin]

dumb worm stupid idiot

[vivid ridge]

dog is probably so racist

[pliant ruin]

hes not racist

hes just like

everything

hes just whatever form of bigotry is most offensive to whoever hes currently fighting specifically

if ur gay hes homophobic

[limpid saddle]

No he's one of those redditor chuds that says 'i discriminate against everyone equally'

[pliant ruin]

hes like that but actually

[limpid saddle]

That mf would own a fedora

[vivid ridge]

like if dog were a human he would just be some stuck up rich kid surviving off daddies money and making fun of people for being poor

[pliant ruin]

dog is like those redditors except he actually is

[vivid ridge]

dog just typing on a keyboard in the distortion

[split mortar]

Like
Its been stated that the second strongest being ever (prime moonlord) in a fight against xeroc is
Hyper unfair
Moonlord trying everything just to live, lasts a while but doesnt really have a chance at winning

While xeroc is just kinda, yeah theyre fighting but not putting their all

[latent bolt]

dog is straight up just racist towards non-distortion peoples, yharim only tolerates him cause he deals with gods efficiently

[pliant ruin]

those redditors aren't actually true to their word, they only discriminate against people they dont like and when people discriminate against them they get pissy
dog in the other hand would actually equally discriminate towards everyone. no matter what social group you're in, he's gonna discriminate against you.

[vivid ridge]

howd fovos lose to the dragons

[pliant ruin]

wouldnt say he even lost

he killed almost all of them and all they could do is weaken and seal him

[split mortar]

Seems more of a tie

[vivid ridge]

i see

[pliant ruin]

yea

[split mortar]

They nearly died
It nearly died

[limpid saddle]

I'd consider getting lobotomized a pretty heavy loss

[vivid ridge]

so im confused are gods stronger then their dragon counterpart

[pliant ruin]

i'd consider having your species go nearly extinct also a pretty heavy loss

no

[split mortar]

Some are some arent

[pliant ruin]

gods and dragons are not necessarily stronger than one another

there is no "strenght hierarchy" beetween the groups of calamity

such as gods dragons elementals etc

[vivid ridge]

didnt xeroc consume the first auric soul

[pliant ruin]

just stronger individuals and weaker individuals

[split mortar]

Yes

Theyre the first god

[pliant ruin]

was it the first

auric soul i mean

i dont think it was

iirc the life trio were the first right

[vivid ridge]

so why did xerocs dragon almost lose to fovos if xeroc would no diff him

[latent bolt]

life death and rebirth were the first

[split mortar]

But their ascension was also a special kind
And they have been training since

[pliant ruin]

xeroc wouldnt no diff him

wait

i misread

i thought yu mean zeratros

anyways its because xeroc is stronger than zeratros

[limpid saddle]

Because Xeroc spent the last 800 years juicing

[pliant ruin]

(the dragon

[vivid ridge]

what is xeroc the god of

[pliant ruin]

xeroc has the strongest auric soul, god knows how many years of training, and was already one of the strongest humans at the time

[split mortar]

Primordial light

[vivid ridge]

interesting

[split mortar]

Same as zeratros

[pliant ruin]

im cheese

[split mortar]

Xeroc had a perfect ascension so i imagine they dont follow the whole
Bit stronger or weaker thing most other gods do

And is outright just plain stronger

[latent bolt]

if yharim consumed yharon's auric soul, would yharim's ascension be perfect

[split mortar]

Unlikely

No terminus and thats likely a needed thing

[vivid ridge]

if yharim consumed yharon he still couldnt even beat xeroc right

what species is draedon btw

[split mortar]

Robot

[pliant ruin]

hes a machine

hes not a species

[split mortar]

Code

[vivid ridge]

odd

who built him

[pliant ruin]

some guy who may or may not have been himself

[split mortar]

Possibly themselves

[pliant ruin]

draedons species is uhhh windows 9

[split mortar]

Mind transfer into tech thingy

[vivid ridge]

so draedon built himself as a robot with ai to live forever?

or whatnot

[split mortar]

Could be what happened

[pliant ruin]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[split mortar]

Its left vague

[pliant ruin]

we don't really know why he did it or if it even was him but its implied it might be

yera

yea

[vivid ridge]

i see

how is yharim so strong as a human

[split mortar]

Humans just
Can be like that

We get that strong

Scal is

Braelor and statis are very strong

[vivid ridge]

yeah but scal got magic and shit

[pliant ruin]

how are you strong as a melee character

[limpid saddle]

Probably

[split mortar]

He worked out
Very hard

[pliant ruin]

you have a really fucking big sword

you punch people really hard

[limpid saddle]

I dont even know where the 'terminus needed for a perfect ascension' thing came from

[vivid ridge]

like

[split mortar]

Yharim just has the physical might to atomise shit when punching

[vivid ridge]

moon lord would solo naked yharim

[split mortar]

Moonlord solos yharim end off

[pliant ruin]

moon lord solos

end quote

[split mortar]

Full power

[pliant ruin]

unless its xeroc

[vivid ridge]

im not talking full power

im talking current power

[split mortar]

Then yharim wins

[vivid ridge]

nah but

hes naked

[pliant ruin]

he can punch moon lord

[limpid saddle]

How close is complete Fovos vs Noxus

[vivid ridge]

no armour or accessories

[split mortar]

Yharim only gets a bit of a power boost from the armour

[pliant ruin]

he can punch moon lord really hard

[vivid ridge]

big fucking laser beam type stuff

[split mortar]

Yharim would still be like
Scal level

[pliant ruin]

consider that you can survive the laser beam without any armor

[vivid ridge]

interesting

[pliant ruin]

and yharim has significantly more experience than you

and probably has trained for way longer

[vivid ridge]

wait ong

i didnt even know that

[split mortar]

A century of war does that

[vivid ridge]

i thought it did like 600

[split mortar]

150 damage normal
300 damage expert
450 damage master

Idk about cal difficulties

[pliant ruin]

he can punch moon lord really hard

[split mortar]

Either way
Yharims armour is mostly defensive

[pliant ruin]

tho idk abt naked yharim being scal level

[vivid ridge]

why cant i punch moon lord

[pliant ruin]

thats a exaggeration imo

[split mortar]

And yharim can take their own hits

[split mortar]

Phospherent gauntlet

[split mortar]

Yea

[pliant ruin]

given scal apparently could beat yharim if she locked in

like RELALY locked in

who would win

one of every god or a billion desert scourges

[vivid ridge]

yharim

[vivid ridge]

oh

the gods no

none of them matter besides xeroc

[pliant ruin]

could xeroc beat a billion desert scourges

[vivid ridge]

xeroc vs 900 million desert scourge

[limpid saddle]

Does each Desert Scourge have their own nuisances

[pliant ruin]

yes

[split mortar]

I mean
Shakidou and silva and providence and ravager are all strong

[limpid saddle]

Ok desert scourges easy

[vivid ridge]

yeah but a billion is alot

[pliant ruin]

i also have went ahead and given the desert scourges power armor

[crimson junco]

Can you tank a billion drills drill through your skull

[vivid ridge]

okay now im lost

[pliant ruin]

the power armor includes guns

the scourges have guns

[limpid saddle]

Do the nuisances also have power armor

[pliant ruin]

yes

[split mortar]

Shakidou is above yharon and is the god of geometric space

[pliant ruin]

ok but its a lot of scourges

[vivid ridge]

one dog (3x hp) vs 3 desert scourge but the desert scourges have post polter gear

[pliant ruin]

i think hes gonnad ie

devourer vs 3 desert scourges with power armor

they come with their nuiasnces who also have power armor

also said power armor has equipped guns

[vivid ridge]

desert scourge 5th dimensional cube

[crimson junco]

Desert Scourge has a lot of HP so he can tank mouth hit for a quite

[pliant ruin]

the power armor makes them tankier too

[vivid ridge]

desert scourge probably tastes pretty good

[pliant ruin]

ngl i think the scourges might have the edge here

i mean

[limpid saddle]

3 armored desert scourges vs my ruthless blade staff

[pliant ruin]

what does snake taste like

[vivid ridge]

some shawarma seasoning

put it on a stick

mmm

[split mortar]

[pliant ruin]

actually i have a headcanon scourges are closer to turtles purely because they have a beak

tehy're serpentine but they're not very snakelike otherwise

[vivid ridge]

nah they are worms

[crimson junco]

Every unusual meat tastes like chimken until proven otherwise

[pliant ruin]

no they're reptiles

[vivid ridge]

wait fr

[pliant ruin]

yes

[vivid ridge]

stupid ass design then

look like worms

[pliant ruin]

the design ingame is being removed

gonna get a new one

[vivid ridge]

they probably taste like alligator

[limpid saddle]

They still gonna look like a worm afterward

[vivid ridge]

the real question is aquatic scourge fish and chips or desert scourge kebab

[pliant ruin]

nah not really

have you seen the new design

[vivid ridge]

think long and hard

[vivid ridge]

nope

[pliant ruin]

aquatic scourge meat might give you cancer

[limpid saddle]

Yeah but it still is gonna get called a worm by everyone

[pliant ruin]

idk if its worth it chief

dosent change the fact its not one

[vivid ridge]

fish and chips tho 🤤

[pliant ruin]

you can call a horse a lion it dosent make it a lion

[limpid saddle]

What cheese said that shit gonna kill you

[pliant ruin]

except when i do it

i can call a horse a lion and make it a lion

i'm different

[split mortar]

Nope

I ate the horses

[limpid saddle]

I have the same ability but if i call a dog a zebra it turns into one

[vivid ridge]

if i call u stupid and a dumbass and dumb then im right

[limpid saddle]

(I paint the dog white & black)

[vivid ridge]

and stupid

and an idiot

[pliant ruin]

sorry you can't do that i've already frightened them with my taraxippus

[vivid ridge]

but i wont

so dw

[pliant ruin]

the horses are too disturbed and frightened to be eaten

[vivid ridge]

dw @pliant ruin i wont but i could

but i wont so dw

[pliant ruin]

you'd be wrong because i'm the smartest person alive

i've invented many things

[split mortar]

Like?

[pliant ruin]

horses

[split mortar]

Ok poseidon

[vivid ridge]

okay thays just not true

horses have been around since before i was born

[pliant ruin]

are you sure

maybe i've just been around since before you were born

[vivid ridge]

i doubt u invented them

[snow mountain]

i have invented something most ingenious: aquatic scourge

[pliant ruin]

maybe i'm just that old

[vivid ridge]

ur not even a famous scientist or anything

[pliant ruin]

i'm not a famous scientist i'm cheese

i'm more than that

[limpid saddle]

I invented being a Calamitas Clone fan

[pliant ruin]

that's true

[limpid saddle]

I was the first one

[split mortar]

Yeah

[limpid saddle]

nobody cared before me

[vivid ridge]

ur just faking it

wait...

[pliant ruin]

no trust me he's genuine

[vivid ridge]

calclone kinda goated...

[pliant ruin]

he's the only calamitas clone fan

[limpid saddle]

i am gonna steal your skin in your sleep

[vivid ridge]

cool design and good fight

and cool lore

[limpid saddle]

A new hand touches the beacon

[pliant ruin]

you two should be best friends

[split mortar]

How retinazer a cool design💔

[vivid ridge]

i dont do friends my dark sigma aura scares them off

[limpid saddle]

what if i told you i had a light sigma aura

[vivid ridge]

retinazer goated too

[pliant ruin]

i have a cheese aura

[vivid ridge]

laser mech eyeball

[pliant ruin]

i'm just a silly girl

[snow mountain]

we need to kill you

[limpid saddle]

I cannot die

[snow mountain]

put this user in a fridge

[vivid ridge]

made to resummon cthulhu

the twins fuck so hard

[snow mountain]

🤨

[vivid ridge]

term for cool

not actually

[limpid saddle]

why you fucking eyeballs rohan

[vivid ridge]

nvm

[snow mountain]

its too late now

[split mortar]

[vivid ridge]

yall

[pliant ruin]

can you guys stop making it weird

[vivid ridge]

just

[split mortar]

Aight

[vivid ridge]

its supposed to be like they r cool

[limpid saddle]

yeah but it's funny

[split mortar]

Tbf its a 13+ server
We really shouldnt

I hope calclone becomes good once reworked and resprited

[snow mountain]

if that ever happens

[cloud ibex]

No

💥

[split mortar]

Probably in brim crags overhaul i think

[limpid saddle]

She's already good she's just gonna be better

[vivid ridge]

welll

idk

fight rework better be good

[sinful adder]

Call me crazy but calclone fight is already decent

Could be better of course

[reef wigeon]

It's actually an anagram or something similar of "azufre"

[vivid ridge]

its good

i like it

[reef wigeon]

And... What the hell were you talking about all night?

Well, it was night here.

[mighty zenith]

its actually an anagram for "undertale"

[sinful adder]

Deltarune tomorrow

[split mortar]

DELTARUNE IS IN

THREE MOTHERFUCKING SECONDS!!!!

💥

[limpid saddle]

i've been lied to

[pulsar ocean]

deltarune in 24 fargo hours

[dusk laurel]

meow

[hoary berry]

mrrp

[reef wigeon]

Undertale? What is that? Can you eat it?

Nah, just kidding XD

THE FUCKING DELTARUNE TOMORROW

Ok enough with the jokes LMAO

[limpid saddle]

Lore chat

Im drawing those Construct re-interpretations like I said

I wanted to give the Catastrophe Construct a weapon dropped by Calamitas Clone, but she doesnt drop any melee weapons outside of that yoyo, so I went to Ashes Of Calamity items & so I am at a standstill, do I give the Catastrophe Construct the Exalted Oathblade or the Brimlash

[gleaming skiff]

a little late but

`The disease(∞) consumes the life(♥), remaining a cold(❄) body.

The life(♥) absorbs the entropy(*), releasing poisonous(∞) air.

The entropy(*) extinguishes the conflagration(φ), maintaining a vigorous(♥) heat.

The conflagration(φ) melts the glacier(❄), generating a dispersing(*) fog.

The glacier(❄) annihilates the disease(∞), leaving warm(φ) mucus.`

[cloud ibex]

[gleaming skiff]

ill get into simpler terms

cant send pictures

fine ill just send in text

vigor>æther>fire>ice>poison>vigor

its the same way stone story rpg does it, so it hink its this one that fits the best

amidias could be same with ice

oh wait its pokemon types

[sinful adder]

This doesn't make sense. Life increases entropy, ice doesn't beat poison usually

[cloud ibex]

yeah

[gleaming skiff]

dont ask me, i just used stone story rpgs weakness system

now that i think about it

[sinful adder]

Anyways yes it's pokemon

[gleaming skiff]

how the hell does ice beat poison??

[sinful adder]

Xeroc is fairy

[sinful adder]

Ice pack to treat fever I guess

[cloud ibex]

slowing down your heartrate to stop the poison from spreading through your bloodstream i guess?

that's the only thing i can think of iunno if that's even how it works

[gleaming skiff]

oops its called æther not entropy

[limpid saddle]

chaaat which one do i use

[sinful adder]

Idk

[limpid saddle]

Brimlash is easier to draw but Exalted Oathblade feels like it fits better thematically

[cloud ibex]

visually i'd lean towards brimlash cause it looks closer to actual Catastrophe's sword

oathblade looks a little overly bulky for the way he seems to use it

but honestly in the end i'd argue it'd be better to give the construct an entirely new sword that looks like a janky, perhaps slightly misshapen replica of the true Catastrophe's weapon

[real silo]

True catastrophe

Crafted from broken hero's catastrophe and catastrophe

[limpid saddle]

I don't know how to 'design weaponry'

[gleaming skiff]

i found an explanation

kind of

its uh

very long though

[limpid saddle]

I mean just look at #general-media my Cataclysm Construct is ass

[gleaming skiff]

Ki is life energy. Each element seems more conceptual than physical and in a sense explains how Ki cycles. Concider Ki the "stuff" of the world and elements as to the rules it follows/manifests through.
Vigor - Growth/Consumption, when Ki gathers/assimilates, like mushrooms collecting and reusing decayed matter or collecting energy to heal yourself.
Aether: Loss/Decay, the remenents of Ki as it ages and cycles, decaying over time (which is why Vigor so easily recycles/defeats it) things made of Aether are often incomplete, ghostly, skeletal, or figmentory, like the unknown after death. As Ki first acculimates, it begins to decay with time. However this does not mean it depletes, Aether beings are still full of their acculimated Ki, they just no longer acculimate it so easily further and instead their ki almost "matures" in near-death.
Fire: Refinement or Ambition, think of it less like heat or literal fire, and more like the concept of forging. Aether is like the rust of a blade or the loss of oxygen sufficating a flame. Fire is the process of improvement. Laborers are refined into their own wardens. The bronze guardian constantly improves itself, bronze is the material of which many tools are sculpted from. Ki can be used to enchant and refine things, growing in power, as opposed to merely consuming to live like Vigor.
Ice: Deprivation, as the last scraps of Ki make it to the ends of the world of darkness, what little life remains struggles against each other. Refinement can overcome this deprived state with ease, like a forged blade through threadbare cloth, burning/melting away like spring snow. Through deprivation is also desperation, as ki continues to provide and fuel life even as scraps.
Poison: Corruption. Ki acculimates, decays, is refined, and scattered, but Poison shapes Ki by twisting its natural flow, particularly effective on things that still are in the "growth" phase of Ki-life, while deprivation leaves little left to twist, numbing and slowing this

twisting proccess.

[thick slate]

what

[limpid saddle]

what in the wall of text

[thick slate]

nobody is readin allat

sorry

[limpid saddle]

i think the rats ate his brain chat

[thick slate]

rats rats we are the rats

[cloud ibex]

eh

[limpid saddle]

you better not be celebrating another birthday bash

[cloud ibex]

i don't really mind text walls if they're like

[gleaming skiff]

i think ice numbs poison idk

basically

[cloud ibex]

relevant to the conversation at hand and not too intrusive

and this is both i'd say

[thick slate]

what is it even about

[mighty zenith]

we pray at night we stalk at night

pray 😭

[thick slate]

no

[mighty zenith]

i cant type

religious rats

[thick slate]

celebrating yet another birthday bash

michael

its ur birthday today

[limpid saddle]

what relevance does ki have to pokemon type match-ups

[thick slate]

what relevance does pokemon have to calamity lore

[limpid saddle]

we were talking about which calamity characters would be gym leaders in a hypothetical crossover fangame

[mighty zenith]

what relevance does calamity lore have to

[mighty zenith]

i dont get it

[limpid saddle]

Curse you & your image perms i would've had a great meme to respond to this with

[cloud ibex]

absolutely nothing they just misunderstood what the convo was about

[gleaming skiff]

its from another game, which i sent as an alternative since i though t it would make more sense

[limpid saddle]

[gleaming skiff]

also i didnt read this too i just found it from the lore server, explaining how the types work and stuff

in hopes for finding why ice beats poison

[limpid saddle]

[gleaming skiff]

✅

[snow mountain]

psychic or bust

light that burns the sky:

[split mortar]

Fairy psychic

[snow mountain]

naw

pure psychic

[dusk laurel]

the hivemind

[limpid saddle]

like the boss or the people here

[dusk laurel]

the rats

[pastel bay]

Would calamitas be a fire/dark or fire/ghost type user

[cloud ibex]

probably fire/ghost

(assuming ghost encompasses undead things in general, not just explicitly ghosts

[limpid saddle]

There really arent any 'zombie' pokèmon but it encapsulates a ton of ghost archetypes

[reef wigeon]

GGG, I just realized that you are part of the XII organization of Kingdom hearts

(or whatever it's called, I don't remember)

[pastel bay]

XIII I think

[reef wigeon]

I think the evolution of paras is a zombie

[limpid saddle]

yeah my pfp is Demyx

[reef wigeon]

But not exactly those who return from the dead, simply their corpse is controlled by the parasite

[limpid saddle]

I mean Paras is definetly still alive when it becomes Parasect & I feel like the cordyceps stuff veers from traditional undead

[split mortar]

I wonder why bloodmoons are specifically necromancy and not like

Makes everything strawberry flavour or simething

[reef wigeon]

I believe that too

[limpid saddle]

For that sweet sweet edge

[reef wigeon]

There isn't exactly a reason for it, but I think it's actually a chemical or environmental reaction, which is why it also affects the appearance of beings that aren't dead.

Like the nautilus

I think its effect is actually like doubling the instinct of the undead.

[limpid saddle]

Dreadnautilus?

[mighty zenith]

shedinja is kind of a zombie

but yeah no actual ghost type zombies afaik

[reef wigeon]

That's why blood zombies and demonic eye amalgams exist

But it's still my theory.

[solar wharf]

There's love in the air? WRONG!!!! HORRIFYING DRUGS

[split mortar]

Im pretty sure dreadnaughts changed bestiary is somewhere public

I just dunno where it be

[reef wigeon]

Yeah

[limpid saddle]

Yeah that's kinda stretching it man

[dusk laurel]

i think arceus is a zombie

[reef wigeon]

There are just no zombie Pokémon because, well, you know, Pokémon is "for kids."

Between many quotation marks

[cloud ibex]

are there ghost type esqueletons though

[limpid saddle]

None spring to mind

[solar wharf]

Shedinja uses an exoskeleton

Does that count?

[reef wigeon]

No, he doesn't use an exoskeleton, he IS the exoskeleton

[solar wharf]

I'd assume he's a ghost inside an exoskeleton

That's.. where the ghost type comes from

[reef wigeon]

But let's say that its physical form is directly the exoskeleton

[limpid saddle]

Well he eats souls through the hole in his back Ninjask emerged from

[cloud ibex]

in my heart ghost should count for reanimated skeletons and such but pokemon types are nonsensical and cal does also do curses and such so ig she's closer to fire/dark

[limpid saddle]

Speaking of im like 50% done the Cal Clone & Constructs piece & i wanna get some thoughts on it so far while im willing to make notable edits #general-media

[solar wharf]

Cal does mess with really messed up magic

[reef wigeon]

It is the most appropriate, taking into account Darkray, who is a ghost but is not of that type

[solar wharf]

She fits fark

[solar wharf]

Who the hell is darkray

[reef wigeon]

A Pokémon :/

[limpid saddle]

...

Do you

[solar wharf]

You mean darkrai?

[limpid saddle]

Do you mean Darkrai???

[reef wigeon]

Yeah

[solar wharf]

Oh

I was confused

[reef wigeon]

I confused that last letter

I also think it could be understood without any problems.

[solar wharf]

Prononuciation matters

When I read darkray I thought of a black ray

Not to mention what confused me further was the end

Which could be interperated as being ghost but isn't dark

Because of that type in the context of the reply could be talking about dark

[reef wigeon]

Sorry, i'm spanish speaker actually

[limpid saddle]

I mean how could Darkrai be a ghost type other than 'oh he's a.. flowy guy i guess'

[solar wharf]

I mean If they slap the ghost type on him right now without any changes it'd work

He haunts dreams, is a curse

And is like really evil and sadistic

That's mostly a dark thing the last part

[reef wigeon]

The closest type to black magic or necromancy is the ghost and dark type

[solar wharf]

Bur ghost and dark works for him

Necromancy for me should be dark

Doesn't make sense to be ghost because ghosts don't really do necromancy

It's usually really messed up wizards

Atleast in media

[split mortar]

Necromancy was forbidden by gods

Dark type often has underhanded or not allowed moves in its typing iirc

So imo dark for necromancy

[reef wigeon]

But magic without direct focus would be more of the fairy type

[limpid saddle]

Ehh, not really

[reef wigeon]

I mean, if it were white magic it could only have healing or protection movements and not attack movements.

[limpid saddle]

He's canonically a really nice guy™️

Goes around saving small children from falling off cliff edges that kinda shit

[reef wigeon]

Yeah, he only makes nightmares because it's his food. He doesn't like doing it for fun or anything like that.