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[limpid saddle]

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[thorn drift]

Im honestly headcannoning draedon just fucking HATING the terrarian and malding every time he speaks with them just because they are so uncreative with their names

[limpid saddle]

found it @pastel bay

[pastel bay]

Hell yeah I need practice drawing DoG it'll be perfect

Draedon rants about us calling it "miracle matter" before calming down and accepting the name because we were the one to first make it

[sudden zinc]

dude is cold and calculating for everything in his life, but only loses it when the terrarian speaks about anything at all

[thorn drift]

Little did he know we made a kirbo reference

[thorn drift]

this exactly

[pastel bay]

"They're so stupid I hate them so much"

[mighty zenith]

i don't think he'd help us so much if he hated us

[thorn drift]

Like bro is actively TRYING to not let the cod lobby in him out

[pastel bay]

He finds us a fascinating research subject so he wants us around

[limpid saddle]

It's because everyone else he ever knew never tried to invent anything in one of his fields or was stupid enough to give nicknames to his robots

[mighty zenith]

they just have that one trait that annoys him but hes able to mostly brush it off because of the other things he admires us for

like
our ability to bullshit our way into victory

[thorn drift]

yeah i know, i just find the mental image very funny

[mighty zenith]

fair

[limpid saddle]

I think Draedon hates the terrarian in a vaugely abstract way

[pastel bay]

He has a dart board with a picture of us on it, but there's like 20 Polaroids stacked because of how often the helmet changes

[mighty zenith]

do it for them

[limpid saddle]

Do you think in multiplayer he has a dartboard for each terrarian or he sections them across one dartboard ranked by how much he hates them

[thorn drift]

like imagine having your magnum opera getting their metaphorical teeth kicked in by some random fuckhead wich you KNOW is extraordinary, but is still just some random fuckhead who acts like they had like thirteen kilos of crack before

[pastel bay]

Totally

[limpid saddle]

Like the closer to the bullseye the more he despises you

[mighty zenith]

yeah its like
he's baffled, intruiged and pissed all at once

[limpid saddle]

How do you think he feels about us making stuff like the Normality Relocator & Nucleogenesis?

[pastel bay]

I see him being someone we call upon in the future for assistance, provided we do something in return

[sudden zinc]

"look at them flailing around like TODDLERS... how are they even DOING THAT!?"

he says, as the terrarians destroys the mechs without a single tear drop

[split mortar]

Normality is not canon sadly iirc but would prob still be quite intrigued

Why would nucleogenesis be special compared to the four other dog class accessories

[thorn drift]

actually wait, since the codebreaker components are unlocked using draedon blueprints, meaning he himself made them... how the fuck did he get his hands on uelibloom before providence died?

[limpid saddle]

Well because it's the most science...y

[split mortar]

I think its us using other materials in its place with similiar properties

[cloud ibex]

i'd imagine he didn't

as is often the case, we just balled and used a substitute we had access to

[mighty zenith]

also uelibloom is getting gutted to something that makes more sense

[mighty zenith]

i like this idea

[thorn drift]

Okay so either he knew of its existence, he used a substitute, or he just said fuck it and developed the blueprint anyways with a theoretical material he had no idea existed, wich just so happened to perfectly aligned with uelibloom, wich i find really funny tbh

[eager bluff]

^ yeah

[cloud ibex]

the Terrarian's true power is adaptability

[mighty zenith]

like, the schematic had a very specific and incredibly difficult alloy to obtain via chemical reactions and we just find some cool shit, say "close enough" and make it work

[eager bluff]

generally we just wing it hence why miracle matter is miracle matter and not science matter

[mighty zenith]

imagine him going "how did they get it so FAST it took me like 8 MONTHS"

[limpid saddle]

Im suprised the Communicator doesnt look like absolute dogshit & is so clean & sleek despite the Terrarian's scotch-tape development process

[thorn drift]

Draedon actively MALDS and SEETHES seeing the terrarian progress, cause they casually manage to source and build shit it took him months to develop

[eager bluff]

its miracle matter because its a miracle we didnt accidentally create a lit thermonuclear bomb instead of miracle matter

[mighty zenith]

the codebreaker actually runs on a potato battery the terrarian invented to generate infinite energy while trying to make fries

[sleek halo]

tbf

he probably didn’t have the auric for it

[thorn drift]

He probably did actually, he worked with yharim for a while, made his armor too

[sleek halo]

isn’t miracle matter made of a bunch of shit he shouldn’t have a lot of

[sleek halo]

upgraded

never made it

[eager bluff]

he enhanced it

[thorn drift]

oh

[sleek halo]

just upgraded it with exo tech

[eager bluff]

yharim got the armor on his own

[mighty zenith]

im pretty sure miracle matter first forms inside the exos

and we just stabilize it

[sleek halo]

melted components

iirc

[eager bluff]

yes

[thorn drift]

yh

[split mortar]

Yes
Cores of calamity need calclone
Mock auric
Life alloy iirc

All things that uh

[thorn drift]

ascendant spirit essence

[split mortar]

Are not available for draedon or are hard to get

[limpid saddle]

do you think miracle matter feels like jelly or a very smooth brick

[sleek halo]

yeah we literally have something he could not have made

without going down a different route

[thorn drift]

Smooth brick paired with fibrous plant

[cloud ibex]

"...curious. Despite the obvious difference in both mechanical knowledge and material quality, the subject has recreated the schematics with impressive accuracy and functionality. This ability must be examined further. Quite curious, indeed."

[split mortar]

I think it depends on where you touch

[eager bluff]

terrarian
i remember you're genocides

[limpid saddle]

this is what lorde says before his boss fight

[thorn drift]

Draedon is best girl tbh

[limpid saddle]

best they, smh

[mighty zenith]

best robor

😋

[split mortar]

Robot

[thorn drift]

Draedon is deadass the biggest loredump in the entire game and I love him for it

[limpid saddle]

Well he's the only person without a bias that actually knows everything that happened & isnt trying to murder us

There is no other character in Calamity that can bear his burden

[thorn drift]

well i mean he is but not out of malice

[cloud ibex]

i mean yeah if anyone in the mod were to autistically infodump on you the instant they're prompted it'd be the guy whose entire character and purpose of existence is "i want to build shit"

[languid badge]

Not out of WHAT?

[thorn drift]

Also he invented roombas so hes automatically best character objectively

[split mortar]

Insert the autism draedon images

[cloud ibex]

he's the best character because he's the robot guy

that's all you need

[mighty zenith]

hes true you know

[cloud ibex]

give me a cool robot guy and i'm satisfied

[mighty zenith]

:3

-# :3

[split mortar]

Robot

[cloud ibex]

garbo is fading into the aether

help him

[thorn drift]

I love how draedon legit said that he could fix the sulfur sea like nothing but was like 'nah, don't feel like it'

[thorn drift]

Welp there goes garbo

[cloud ibex]

what have we done

[thorn drift]

no more aureus lover

[limpid saddle]

'too much interesting horrific shit in there tbh'

'may as well have fun with it'

[thorn drift]

also whoever said the codebreaker looks sleek, the thing is literally half a dozen disconnected parts slapped together made of rusted plating, random ass metals, duct tape and a dream

it looks like a hot mess

[strong notch]

if it works it works

[thorn drift]

Like im 99 percent sure the terrarian just went to his local draedon trash heap and made the thing out of scrap metal

a fucking gust of wind would rip the thing apart

[split mortar]

It does include the dubious plating stuff
So yeah
Kinda literally did

[strong notch]

at least it's not made out of wulfrum

[cloud ibex]

yea you do literally salvage his old labs for materials to throw the thing together along with other shit you find along the way

[thorn drift]

the most advanced thing there is the voltage regulation system and it looks like three car batteries duct taped together

[split mortar]

Auric quantum cooling cell:

[strong notch]

yet it works because Draedon itself is ancient

[thorn drift]

(aside from the auric cell but that thing actually took effort and was inticratly designed i imagine)

like you literally couldn't afford to hotwire that thing in particular

[cloud ibex]

the auric cell kinda seems like something draedon could have designed as a theoretical thing

[thorn drift]

most likely was tbh

[cloud ibex]

like a "if auric ore wasn't a pain in the ass to work with i'd make this myself"

[thorn drift]

and I imagine the terrarian copied that thing and only that thing to a tee

[strong notch]

honestly it's funny how much he expects of us just so we can talk to him like a normal person

[cloud ibex]

i do wonder where exactly you'll get auric ore down the line though

i assumed it'd be from the Aerie but that shit is practically indestructible so that wouldn't work

[strong notch]

Where he forces you to create entire codebreaker, gain access to auric cell, beat up his mechs and craft miracle matter

just so you can be allowed to ask anything

[thorn drift]

You gotta be worth his time

my guy is busy i mean have you seen the things he builds

[strong notch]

i doubt that dude even responds in real time

he probably has answers ready for every question in the universe

and is just lazy

(or hates us because of our naming choices)

so he is looking for any way not to talk to us

[thorn drift]

What if I asked him where his father went

[cloud ibex]

he'd say " "

[thorn drift]

at this point in time every single major character in the mod is fatherless

[dusk laurel]

well

[cloud ibex]

even he doesn't know the specifics of what happened to his creator

[strong notch]

they are mostly parentless

[cloud ibex]

for all he knows it could've been himself

[thorn drift]

tbh he probably is his own creator

[eager bluff]

gotta have at least a little family trauma to spice things up

[strong notch]

i wonder if we are gonna have a talk with Scal in future updates

[cloud ibex]

tbf it doesn't necessarily need to be because something in particular happened to them

like

[strong notch]

so we get to know her point of view

[split mortar]

I mean
Dialogue trees will exist for cal npcs

[cloud ibex]

yharim is 50 years older than the average human, his parents are almost definitely dead

but they could've died from like

old age

[split mortar]

Imo
He stabbed them

[strong notch]

isn't that guy like over 150 years old?

due to extended lifespan

[split mortar]

Yharim is 130 ish

[thorn drift]

and the fuckhead is STILL in his prime physically

[strong notch]

then i doubt average human is 80

[cloud ibex]

i thought the average human life span was around 80

maybe closer to 90

[split mortar]

Yeah
Im oretty sure he will just

Sudden age over the course of a month

And die

When age stabs them

In a few years

[strong notch]

checked it now

it's more around 72

[cloud ibex]

less than i remembered

[split mortar]

So yharim is like
Nearly double the average lifespan of a irl person

[cloud ibex]

so he's 60 years older than the average human

yeah his parents are definitely dead

[thorn drift]

it would be fucking hilarious if you could beat yharim like that one metal gear 3 boss

where you just wait for him to die of old age

[strong notch]

did his parents even care about him getting thrown into the lava when he was young?

[split mortar]

Would have to wait 10 years

[strong notch]

or were they just not here

[cloud ibex]

we have no idea

[thorn drift]

Im fairly sure thats omitted out of sheer irrelevancy

and i think its better that way

its better if you don't know the full story

allows people to theorize

[young socket]

since the crusade lasted around a century

he was like

a man

when he was thrown in

[thorn drift]

I just realized

[strong notch]

in his 20s i think

so still fairly young

[split mortar]

Early to mid 20s i think?

Idk

[thorn drift]

calamitas was just some random woman he picked up from the street who was like the equivalent of a small nuke

[strong notch]

not even a woman

she was a child

[thorn drift]

I know

[split mortar]

Oh it was like
Tsar bomba

Not small

Big

[strong notch]

traumatized child

[thorn drift]

Big nuke

She was literally the fucking I am atomic guy

[young socket]

shadow

[split mortar]

This from omni

[young socket]

im watching that rn and its so hilarious cuz the mc is such an edgelord but literally has NO idea wats going on

[strong notch]

i cannot really imagine the difference between 8 and 16 teratons

too big numbers for me

[thorn drift]

oh my god shes literally a tsar bomba

like scarily close to a tsar

[split mortar]

Per second

[thorn drift]

my god

[split mortar]

She exerted that
Per second

On average

[thorn drift]

Imagine getting hit by a fucking tsar every single second

[split mortar]

And that was literally
Like
15 years old cal

She is near 30

[strong notch]

imagine being ilmeris people getting evaporated alive

[thorn drift]

How in the fuck is yharim stronger than that

how does he beat a fucking nuke on legs

[cloud ibex]

punch

[strong notch]

emotional attack

calamitas is heavily traumatized and was easy to manipulate

[cloud ibex]

also remember that it was a nuke applied over the course of several days

[split mortar]

His punches hit so hard he uh
Nuclear fissiles you probably

[split mortar]

No

It was per second

[thorn drift]

no apparently that was a nuke applied every single second

[split mortar]

The over time one is teratons

[thorn drift]

a tsar to be specific

[cloud ibex]

i stand corrected

[thorn drift]

She could nuke the planet with that in like a couple weeks

She is literally a walking extinction event

[split mortar]

Illmeris incineration total energy is bellow the meteor that killed the dinosaurs

[strong notch]

honestly planet in terraria is simply built different

[split mortar]

Thats country +

Also exos have unlimeted battery to pull from

[thorn drift]

still, imagine some woman flying around the world, literally dropping dozens of tsars everywhere she goes

[split mortar]

So they can continue untill their exoplating tears itself apart

[thorn drift]

that would fuck up the world BAD

[strong notch]

[thorn drift]

How the hell did we survive that fight with her

[split mortar]

Yeah
Btw a attack from deus is like
4 megaton bomb iirc

[split mortar]

We are equal to her

Or not far behind

[strong notch]

somehow our world survives fight with exo mechs

[thorn drift]

Fair enough

Im fairly sure a gauss nuke would cause like a magnitude seven earthquake at minimum

[languid badge]

Weaker than electric worm

[split mortar]

Gauss nuke is built to cause less collateral so it harms the other exos less

[thorn drift]

Calamitas could solo homelander no contest

[split mortar]

Homelander is like
Wof level attack potency and durability iirc

Or a bit above

[thorn drift]

wow

[strong notch]

even trees can for whatever reason withstand the energy of OHIO beam

[split mortar]

Legit dies to mechs

[thorn drift]

thats sad

Homelander would be COOKED in cal verse

[split mortar]

Yeah

[spare pier]

He would be cooked in most places, The Boys scales surprisingly low

[split mortar]

Yeah

[thorn drift]

Okay, now the real question

sportacus vs calamitas

[split mortar]

Storm weaver is 8-12 megatons iirc

[pliant ruin]

rest in peace calamitas

[cloud ibex]

i don't think this is a discussion really

[languid badge]

Isn’t sport like hilariously overpowered

[strong notch]

what can even sportacus do

[cloud ibex]

how is SCal winning

[thorn drift]

dude casually sent an apple to the moon at like 60 percent the speed of light iirc

[cloud ibex]

sportacus is gonna beat her ass and then tell her a lesson about idk eating healthy food or something

[strong notch]

lesson about not breathing in brimstone fumes

or something

[languid badge]

I feel like he could just straight up suplex dog tf is scal gonna do

[thorn drift]

Okay but could he beat goku /j

[cloud ibex]

i'm going with yes

next question

[thorn drift]

Whats with yharim and bees

[tepid timber]

Sportacus would go sport mode and challenge goku

[strong notch]

he has crush on them

[cloud ibex]

he thinks they're neat

that's about it

[strong notch]

what if after Aerie is added

we will find a giant portrait of queen bee and Yharim

[cloud ibex]

i will be disappointed if there's no small beekeeper setup in the Aerie

[split mortar]

Yet some think calamity scales unneededly low :/

[cloud ibex]

bonus points if you meet him tending to them like asgore tending to his flowers

[split mortar]

Atleast compared to old lore

[thorn drift]

actually how high did old lore scale?

outside of xeroc and shit

[languid badge]

Dog could just casually travel the galaxy

[young socket]

higher for basically no reason or usage

[split mortar]

Whatever argument you wanted

Deus could eat stars (like irl sized ones)
Providence couldnt burn the planet

[young socket]

it was always just "yea they were that powerful but its never gonna get shown off nor utilised"

[split mortar]

Yharim hit a table and caused a island level thing iirc

[pulsar ocean]

Xeroc is boundless+++++

[languid badge]

I have zero recollection of this

[eager bluff]

the good old table slam

[pulsar ocean]

Why'd they copy one punch man

[eager bluff]

punched a table and killed literally everyone in the room and did something with a biome but i forgot which

[young socket]

he got angry at some people at some meeting and hit the table and that killed everyone in the meeting and like the entire planet knew he did that

[thorn drift]

Okay thats just hilarious

[languid badge]

Are you thinking of Daedalus

[young socket]

no

[pulsar ocean]

Old lore is peak cinema why did they scrap it

[young socket]

daedalus built a bomb thats quite different

[eager bluff]

no i remember yharims table slam doing something with a biome

[languid badge]

Technically it wasn’t meant to be a bomb

[thorn drift]

cause old lore was VERY edgy and scaled needlessly high iirc

[pulsar ocean]

Xeroc could beat goku in old lore

[thorn drift]

yeah but xeroc was god so that doesnt count

[split mortar]

Not only was it needlessly high

It also was, inconsistent

[thorn drift]

like capital G God

[eager bluff]

yeah and neither was the samsung galaxy note 7 yet it still got discontinued for exploding

[young socket]

LMAO

[dusk laurel]

😭

[eager bluff]

somethings original intent of construction becomes a lot less significant when said something blows the fuck up

[strong notch]

unless it's a dynamite

and does what it is supposed to

[light linden]

what

[split mortar]

Old lore moment

[random mulch]

i like modern scaling much more

[split mortar]

Same

And its
Much higher then i expected

[random mulch]

yharim punching a crater in a metal wall vs making a god damn earthquake by hitting a table

[pulsar ocean]

I don't

Yharim can't beat goku

[manic coral]

first person all month to hear "city level yharim" and not go "oh huh i thought he was stronger"

ok seriously though

[split mortar]

City level is much higher then i thought

[pulsar ocean]

Can the galaxia sword destroy galaxies

[split mortar]

No

[pulsar ocean]

So why'd they name it that way

[mighty zenith]

because it sounds cool

[split mortar]

Sounds cool and fits with cosmic theme

[pulsar ocean]

Why can't the galaxy smasher destroy galaxies

[split mortar]

Because thats an absurd amount of strength and anything being remotely even planet level other then xeroc or noxus would snap the lore in half

[manic coral]

i do think it's more fun to have city-level characters that actually consistently do city-level things like just straight up atomizing people with a single punch or incinerating half a sea than a world destroyer who has fights that cause little envrionmental damage and have no showings of how absurd that power is 95% of the time

[mighty zenith]

chat boil this user in tartar sauce

[mighty zenith]

gonna save this for future use

-# :3

[manic coral]

it's also just a fun amount of power to write around

[cosmic zenith]

I am actually capable of rending galaxies asunder
Thankfully, I am too chill to do that

[manic coral]

you can actually SHOW the characters going all out without having to worry about "oh why don't they destroy more" and such things

while the amoutn of destrouction can still be abffling

it feels like a perfect balance to me

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah

[manic coral]

i don't like writing higher levels of pwoer unless i consistently do stuff with it

at the point of like, planatary destruction, you start getting some hard questions to awnser

espeically about antagonists

[pulsar ocean]

Is the terrarian behind naming all of the weapons
Cuz its silly to call a weapon supernova and make it not destroy the world

[manic coral]

like, like providence, for example

if she was capable of destroyign the planet, why wouldn't she

that's literally her goal

[young socket]

cuz shes stupid

[manic coral]

it's hard to like

[pulsar ocean]

She can't breathe in space

[young socket]

was there ever a reason why old lore provi didnt do that

[manic coral]

write villians who can destroy planets and shit

[pulsar ocean]

So it would be stupid to destroy the world

[dusk laurel]

she wouldnt care

she just wants to kill everyone

[split mortar]

She kinda
Likely wants to die

[manic coral]

while still making them make sense

not UNAWNSERABLE questions

but it certainly starts to limit the pool of types of antagonists you can have and makes writing the ones that remain like exponentially harder at points

[pulsar ocean]

How would yharim achieve the goal of god genocide if xeroc is literally unbeatable and is boundless++++

[manic coral]

and to one peic eof media's credit, while is fails SOMETIMES at displayinmg characters' powers,

[split mortar]

He cant

[manic coral]

dragon ball z villians dont fall into this trap amazingly

[split mortar]

-# also xeroc is like, continent level if you push it SO fucking hard in their favour iirc

[manic coral]

and i like that the MOMENT we get a villian who TOTALLY WOULD blow up the planet.

HE DOES

[pulsar ocean]

In old lore

[young socket]

pretty sure they meant old lore

[split mortar]

Still cant

[stuck shore]

Is Radiance as much of Pure Evil as Providence would?

[manic coral]

Kid Buu just immediatly becomes a thing

and the FIRST thing he does

is blow up earth

[cosmic zenith]

Isn't Radiance moreso trying to survive as a higher being

Not be forgotten

[stuck shore]

Hmm that is true

[split mortar]

She goes a tad overboard but yeah

[pulsar ocean]

Isn't radiance just fighting to enslave everyone

[split mortar]

If she doesnt get them to worship her
She dies

Im pretty sure

[young socket]

we dont exactly know radiances goal since no one actually knows and radiance doesnt talk to u about it

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah

No, you can actually grasp Radiance's goal from the lore

She also technically has dialogue if you hit her with the Dream Nail

[pulsar ocean]

Would Jared and pale king be friends

[young socket]

holy FUCK

[proud tendon]

its why i love it when ppl go "Oh can THIS character beat the dbz gauntlet?" Cuz it just becomes "can this character breath in space?"

[young socket]

why is the hk wiki the 6th result when u search "the radiance"

literaly have to scroll down HALF A PAGE

[stuck shore]

What about cell the perfect boi with that one Tail Vore fetish

[manic coral]

HE TRIES TO

that's the funny thing

the MOMENT he starts properly lolsing he goes "fuck this", enters low orbit, aims down, and fires off a kamehameha at first

[pulsar ocean]

Can goku breathe in space

[manic coral]

no

[mighty zenith]

literally the only reason cell didnt try to blow up the earth earlier was because hes an egotistical and prideful asswipe

the MOMENT he starts losing to gohan he decides to blow himself up

[stuck shore]

Blowing a lot of earth to tail vore the bio android woman and become perfect

[pulsar ocean]

Can you beat goku by finding the dragon balls and wishing for goku to die of death

[stuck shore]

Which probably awakened a lot to some viewers (like me )

[mighty zenith]

no actually

[young socket]

what

[split mortar]

Prob could earlier but he is likely beyond the power of balls now

[mighty zenith]

the creator of the dragon balls has to be stronger than the person youre trying to wish something on for it to be possible

and goku is way above dende now

maybe during like king piccolo saga

[pulsar ocean]

Crazy

[mighty zenith]

never speak again

[stuck shore]

Speaking of the Dragon Balls, if they were in calamity, what would be our canonical wish? To revive the Dragons of Terraria?

[pulsar ocean]

One billion platinum

[tepid timber]

Raise the rent for npcs

[stuck shore]

True doe

[mighty zenith]

dont make me tap the sign

[young socket]

the

thje image

[pulsar ocean]

What sign

[young socket]

THE IMAGE

[pulsar ocean]

What

[young socket]

ME

YOU

WE ARE ALL

THE TERRARIAN

[manic coral]

also sheron would probably pull some shit

[split mortar]

THE TERRARIAN IS YOU

[pulsar ocean]

NOOOOOOOO

[manic coral]

like how when there wa sa wish for frieza to come back

[pulsar ocean]

BUT I'M NOT 2D

I CAN'T BE THE TERRARIAN

[manic coral]

shnreon brought him back in the bits he was sliced into

[split mortar]

XEROC BEATS YOU

[mighty zenith]

lmao yeah

[tepid timber]

Tbf they wouldn’t have to use the earth dragon balls

[stuck shore]

My depraved reply

[mighty zenith]

probably my favorite thing about dragon ball is shenron being insanely petty

[tepid timber]

But they probably still wouldn’t be able to wish goku to death

[mighty zenith]

like
hes not just a plot device

[stuck shore]

I love how complex Dragon Ball lore can be

[mighty zenith]

he's got his own sense of humor and his quirks

[manic coral]

he was at first but slowly turned into his own character

[pulsar ocean]

Can I wish for infinite ki luiafk

[mighty zenith]

yep

originally he was the end goal but was expanded on

[stuck shore]

My wish would be to reincarnate Yharim as a normal person to give him a second chance at life without war

[manic coral]

i love how Shenron treated Gomah

[mighty zenith]

hed be called mirahy

and then terrarian would leave to train him and the series ends

[stuck shore]

Gotta think of a more “Ralsei” like name that’s not exactly reverse

[pulsar ocean]

Everyone else is dead he would be alone with nothing

[mighty zenith]

the joke is thats exactly what goku does to kid buu

[manic coral]

He made the process as LONG and COMPLICATED as possible

[stuck shore]

Not when I have the town npcs and stuff

[mighty zenith]

also just
refused to give him more than one wish

[manic coral]

yeah

that was great

[mighty zenith]

shenron being a dick to bad guys is so good

after king piccolo he's got a grudge

[manic coral]

and yeah him bringing back people with their bodies intact was always specirficed to be an "extra favor"

and getting tos ee what it's like without when it happens to Frieza

[stuck shore]

Hiryam the Reincarnated boy

[manic coral]

just a bunch of squirming chunks of frieza's body falling onto the ground

[stuck shore]

He could be raised by all of the town npcs (or a few) like some isekais about not having a specific person raising the boy

[mighty zenith]

yeah so just

[tepid timber]

Or he could get turned into a frog

[mighty zenith]

uub

[stuck shore]

(Goblin Tinker scamming Hiryam be like )

~~I SAW THE STINKY SCAM LINK ~~

and just after I posted that lmao

[manic coral]

i feel like it says a lot that Uub has done more successfully in Super than in GT despite only appearing once in Super

[mighty zenith]

he shows up in the manga right

[manic coral]

yes

[mighty zenith]

neat

[manic coral]

Uub briefly shows up

[mighty zenith]

man GT uub just makes me sad

[tepid timber]

Moro arc was a 6/10

[manic coral]

GT stands for Goku Time

[wheat walrus]

goku time

[manic coral]

i mean what are any of the arcs before it then

like 3/10-5/10

ok no i cna see the argument for ToP being better

[mighty zenith]

the fucking narrator butting in during his fight with baby to tell the viewers that uub is fodder right after he got a power up

[manic coral]

yeha literally not "Can Uub beat baby?"

it's

[stuck shore]

Cell Arc rating?

[manic coral]

"can Uub hold off Baby until Goku returns?"

[wheat walrus]

beat baby vs beat the baby

[stuck shore]

I kinda like how he mastered perfection without needing the androids

[mighty zenith]

like imagine if vegeta showed ssj1 against 19 and the narrator said "can Vegeta hold 19 long enough for Goku to recover?!"

[tepid timber]

Goku black arc was 7/10, top was 9/10 (i will glaze it till death), golden freiza was 3/10, universe 6 tournament was 6/10

Uhhh what else am i missing

[manic coral]

i honestly jsut really don't see how Goku Black is better than Moro

ok

i could if it wasn't for the ENDING

[wheat walrus]

fukkatsu no f sure exists

[stuck shore]

And he became Superfect

[wheat walrus]

🔥

[mighty zenith]

goku black arc is like an 8 or 9 without the ending
5 with the ending

[manic coral]

the ending makes it go from 7/10 to 5/10

[mighty zenith]

its so shit

[tepid timber]

I would’ve ranked it higher if the anime version didn’t include stupid sword thing with trunks

[manic coral]

it entirely tanked my opinion on everything

[mighty zenith]

spirit sword + ending ruin the anime arc

[tepid timber]

The ending was meh but I can forgive it

[manic coral]

it actively made everything before it worse

[mighty zenith]

and AFTER

[wheat walrus]

did Trunks and Mai at least find a timeline where they don't have to deal w a "now there's 2 of em" ass situation

[mighty zenith]

because they could have had trunks in the ToP

[wheat walrus]

😭

[mighty zenith]

and not fodder tien

i love tien but he did fucking nothing

[manic coral]

it took an arc i enjoyed pretty well and now i can't even bother to go back throguh it a third time

[tepid timber]

Do not disrespect tien

He will make a comeback

Believe me

[mighty zenith]

i'll disrespect super tien because he did fucking nothing

[manic coral]

so yeah i DEFINITLY can't forgive the ending

[mighty zenith]

he knocked out one guy ALONG WITH HIMSELF

roshi, who is WAY weaker, knocked out like 4 people at least

[manic coral]

I think Moro is on-par with ToP myself

given i think it's more yeah 7.5/10

[tepid timber]

They are not comparable roshi is a goat and tien is washed

[manic coral]

i think both are

[mighty zenith]

i mostly like ToP but man they mishandled tien so bad

krillin too

[tepid timber]

Yeah

Poor krillin…

[manic coral]

i feel like parts of it went of for too long and while it had some cool interactiosn and characters

some major aprts of it i feel like are

so-so

[mighty zenith]

also, just jiren

who's just a wall

[manic coral]

jiren is a nothingburger character yeah that's another problem i have

[tepid timber]

Hot take but I like the episodes where nothing happens, like goku going shopping or some shit.

[manic coral]

i mean

[wheat walrus]

jiren was hype but he doesn't have sauce

[manic coral]

so do i

[wheat walrus]

:p

[mighty zenith]

jiren had cool fights but as a characters hes nothing

[manic coral]

i mean one of my favorite DBZ episodes is the one where Piccol and Goku did their driving tests

[mighty zenith]

and he literally DOES nothing for 90% of the tournament

[wheat walrus]

el hermano solos

[mighty zenith]

hes tru

[tepid timber]

Oh god

[manic coral]

I like Moro, and ESPEICALLY Granolah, a lot better

[tepid timber]

Please not hermano

[wheat walrus]

yes hermano

[mighty zenith]

slice of life dragon ball is great

i really liked the pre-cell games arc

[stuck shore]

I wonder how it’d go if Draedon got a exo bullet train?

[manic coral]

Moro has cool-ass powers and also the whole arc has

[wheat walrus]

gohan blanco is real so now we're waiting for hermano

[manic coral]

two of my top ten vegeta interactions

[mighty zenith]

because it let goku and gohan just hang out as dad and son

[tepid timber]

Moro does have cool powers maybe i’ll read it again

[stuck shore]

Father son moments

So peak

[tepid timber]

Should rewatch the broly movie too

[stuck shore]

Before the funny happens to the androids

[wheat walrus]

broly movie 🔥

[light linden]

cei can I ask a question about sea prisms?

[manic coral]

the whole thing with the namekians of "no more of these people shall die by my hands" and then "of course i'm going to hell" thing

[mighty zenith]

broly movie is amazing

[wheat walrus]

peams

[manic coral]

though maybe my #2 of all time the the "My happy place" monologue in Granolah

#1 being of course, althoguth it's kidna cheating

Majin Vegeta in general

[mighty zenith]

maaaan why do i have to deal with school i wanna read the manga

[manic coral]

sup

[light linden]

would they shock you if you just picked one up?

[manic coral]

nah

[light linden]

ok ty

[manic coral]

they wouldn't

[manic coral]

which yeah if it's not clear by now

i DO have a favorite part of Super

[long sand]

💔

[wheat walrus]

I need someone strong enough to maul a child

[light linden]

uhhh

[wheat walrus]

but gentle enough to maul a child

[light linden]

what the hell

[wheat walrus]

smart enough to maul a child

and passionate enough to maul a child

[manic coral]

alatreon?

[mighty zenith]

the ever-so-reliable child mauler:

[wheat walrus]

I am roleplaying as God while creating my favorite creature

[wheat walrus]

yes

[split mortar]

Why a fuckass cool dragon mauling children (1)

[light linden]

what

[wheat walrus]

the joke is that Alatreon looks like it'd maul a child and its fight would maul a child

[wheat walrus]

no images allowed is killing me 💔 the voices

there's this meme that I really like

[light linden]

I mean

sscls

[wheat walrus]

thank

[manic coral]

i assume this is the one omni

[wheat walrus]

yes

I remember seeing it years ago but not being able to find it

I finally found it like yesterday

[split mortar]

All im hearing

They no diff scal cause she was a child once

[wheat walrus]

🥀

[manic coral]

MHW is funny becuase it's difficulty surve isn't really a curve it's moreos a few walls here and there

[wheat walrus]

Alatreon VS Calamitas

[manic coral]

like

[wheat walrus]

ok true

[manic coral]

ok it's a curve until MR

and then nothing relaly preapres you for MR

[mighty zenith]

we need to kill monsters hunter

[manic coral]

and then you get to Shara Ishvalda

[wheat walrus]

incredible

[manic coral]

who is a difficulty spike that nothing quite prepares you for

[wheat walrus]

and then you get to Alatreon

[manic coral]

and then you get to Furious Rajang and Raging Brchydios

[wheat walrus]

oh yea those I forgot

[manic coral]

which nothing really quite prepare syou for

[wheat walrus]

and then

[manic coral]

and then you get to Alatreon

[wheat walrus]

Alatreon

and maybe Fatalis

Fatalis depends since it can be harder than Alatreon but some struggle more with the element stuff

[manic coral]

who NOT EVEN ALL OF THAT STUFF has prepared you for

seems to be common consensus thought that the biggest difficulty spike is Raging Brachydios and Furious Rajang

[wheat walrus]

but otherwise Fatalis literally just abuses your attention span and the time limit at once while being hard as fuck and playing like an actual player in a fighting game

[wheat walrus]

those were spikes for sure

to me Ala/Fata's spike is even bigger tho

Raging Brachydios and Furious Rajang are like a gigantic stair step after a bunch of more gradual steps

Ala/Fata are that again but after the previous step you took

[stuck shore]

Speaking of Dreams and hollow knight

If the Dream Nail got in calamity

[wheat walrus]

also Arch-Tempered Velkhana saying no to your temporal mantle

[stuck shore]

Would the boss/miniboss Dream quotes have to match with canon stuff?

[manic coral]

i mean

yeah?

otherwise what's the point

[stuck shore]

Prov: The world must be cleansed into a perfect form

[spring helm]

oh boy i wonder what lore i'll learn today in this channel

Cei ranting about Dragon Ball Super again

absolute cinema give me more

[stuck shore]

I am their one savior

[wheat walrus]

cinematic

[split mortar]

Truly the best
-# not sarcasm

[stuck shore]

Cei should make a dragon ball server so we can all watch it together with her

[wheat walrus]

incredible

[spring helm]

omni you could totally do that in your server

[stuck shore]

Group theaters

[wheat walrus]

dragon ball corner

?

[spring helm]

yeah

[manic coral]

DBS Broly movie night

[wheat walrus]

alr so how do we structure it

[wheat walrus]

flames

[stuck shore]

YASSSS

Maybe even a full series group theater

[manic coral]

no

[stuck shore]

[manic coral]

that'd be too long and i will ALWAYS say

[wheat walrus]

cosmore isn't on the cord,,

[manic coral]

the ebst dragon blal experience is the manga

[stuck shore]

What cord?

[wheat walrus]

wait a sec

[split mortar]

The cord

Ya aint there

[wheat walrus]

there sent

[spring helm]

Super manga and anime are two completely different continuities though

[manic coral]

and the manga is the near-objectively better one

what cna i say

[spring helm]

i only read the manga tbh, watching anime takes so long

[wheat walrus]

well actually

if it's abt a movie night then the event area for my server is there

so

uh

🔫🍈

[spring helm]

everyone must be unmuted so we can all shout with goku when he powers up

[wheat walrus]

incredible

[stuck shore]

am stpuid the silly now :3

[wheat walrus]

incredible (1)

[stuck shore]

incredible (C)

[split mortar]

Whaur

[wheat walrus]

gun melon

[stuck shore]

new whar spotted

[stuck shore]

🔫 🍈

[dusk laurel]

It's so sad

It's almost like he's still with us

[tepid timber]

Peak

[split mortar]

what is this emote

[spring helm]

DoG???

[split mortar]

Dont look it

[pliant ruin]

it is in fact dog

given its literally called pensive DOG cowboy

[spring helm]

i know it's dog i read the name

but it don't look like dog

[dusk laurel]

new emoji just dropped

[spring helm]

how old is that emoji

[split mortar]

[dusk laurel]

idk

wtfrick

[spring helm]

that has to be like DoG from 2015 or somethng

[dusk laurel]

where did these come from

[split mortar]

Been here since i joined

And i shall go now

[dusk laurel]

💥

[wheat walrus]

calamity wasnt even real in 2015

[spring helm]

oh

really?

damn it's not as old as i thought

was it there for Harambe

[wheat walrus]

may 28 2016

iirc calamity is like

june 2 2016

not even a week difference 😭

[spring helm]

in the wake of the shot that was heard around the world, Calamity rose

wait did i get the order wrong

[tepid timber]

No

[patent tiger]

what is silva

i thought she was a god but one of my friends said she was an elemental

[cosmic zenith]

She is both

Silva is the Nature Elemental, who absorbed the soul of the Life Dragon and became Goddess of Life

Her champion, Braelor, was one of the most powerful opponents to Yharim

[plucky lichen]

Then yharim “killed” her but not really since she can’t fully die. Because of this he just kinda dumped her remains in the abyss iirc

Elementals live as long as the concept they embody currently exists on terraria right?

Silva is currently reforming in the abyss and she’ll exist again… eventually

[cosmic zenith]

As long as their element exists, yes

To truly kill Silva, you'd have to wipe all life from Terraria

Which is not gonna happen

[plucky lichen]

Turning terraria into a bomb and blowing it up just to kill Silva because fuck that guy in particular

[robust osprey]

next year is 10th anniversary

damn

[wheat fjord]

Braelor and statis gotta be pretty strong

They together nearly beat yharim

[robust osprey]

a yharim weaker than the current yharim since now he got exo upgrade, but yes, still strong

but also it was a 2v1

[wheat fjord]

Oh tru

Yeah ik

[late veldt]

what if Xeroc teleported the sun onto Terraria

[robust osprey]

I mean breaelor was the main one

and statis was like

support

[wheat fjord]

Statis was there so they could get the Gay Power marvel rivals team up buff

[robust osprey]

true

braelor is slightly stronger than statis iirc

[wheat fjord]

I'd say Braelor is prob like what around half as strong as current yharim?

Around that ballpark

[robust osprey]

well since they last met yharim was probably still training and braelor was just

stuck in the distortion doing something

I'd not say half strong as yharim but like

55%?

60 maybe?

[sinful adder]

I think people overestimate the difference in power between yharim now and yharim when he fought braelor and statis

[robust osprey]

yeah but we don't know if braelor was training in the distortion or was doing nothing

and if he was doing nothing he'd probably lose strenght, but I don't think he would do nothing

[sinful adder]

Consider: Braelor has a kind of Silva armor that doesn't exist in game yet, which is the tier right before auric, and yharim's auric armor is the same as ours. There's the difference in raw strength and the Silva blessing as well

[wheat fjord]

Braelor and statis sitting there playing cards

[sinful adder]

I would guess that Braelor is about 80% as strong as yharim was back then and about 70% to 60% now

Roughly

[robust osprey]

and there's the fact that yharim isn't just guy in an armor

armor isn't all his strenght

but also applies to braelor

[sinful adder]

Yes but I was accounting for that, Braelor wasn't either

Yeah

[robust osprey]

like, braelor got a giant and really cool axe

[wheat fjord]

I wonder what the power tiers would be.
Guessing somth like

Top tier
Cosmic Entitys (fovos, noxus ect)
Auric dragons
High level gods
Mid level gods
Elementals
Low level gods
Top Predators

Top tier would be Xeroc ect

[sinful adder]

Top predators can be stronger than mid level gods

[wheat fjord]

That is true

[robust osprey]

isn't weaver a top predator

[wheat fjord]

I guess it's really hard to generalise this cus there's so many different things

[sinful adder]

Example: dragonfolly and storm weaver and eidolon wyms

I don't think there is a real categorical tier list

[wheat fjord]

I was gonna make another tier for "other worldy predators" but didn't wanna clog chat

Astrum deus, storm weaver n stuf

[robust osprey]

would deus count as a predator

[wheat fjord]

I guess power scaling really comes down to specific characters

[robust osprey]

like bro is chill while uninfected

[wheat fjord]

Other worldy animals then

I might put together a power scaling list thingy for fun with my limited knowledge on the lore

Shouldn't be that hard for the bosses cus it would just be as they come in the checklist

Elementals, mini bosses ect might be annoying doe

[dusk laurel]

auric dragons are a variety of strengths

slime god exists

which means there was a dragon weaker than sg

(dragon of gluttony)

and then theres zeratros, who is comparable to yharim in power

[sinful adder]

This is just too many categories tbh. None of the categories have any bearing on the power of the creature

[wheat fjord]

Yeah it would have to be character specific

[sinful adder]

At which point it's just a regular power ranking which we already have

(basically just boss checklist with a few exceptions)

[dusk laurel]

boss checklist unfortunately doesnt specify which bosses are at the same tier

[wheat fjord]

I mean we could generally guess

We know exos and scal are

[dusk laurel]

well we already know which ones are at the same tier

exos and scals are one yeah

[wheat fjord]

The evil biome bosses too

[dusk laurel]

yep

[wheat fjord]

Like to imagine desert scourge and eye aren't too far apart

[dusk laurel]

id say ds is a bit higher but yeah i agree

[wheat fjord]

It's always been weird to be how a floating eye with little means of attack (apart from 2nd phase) is supposed to be more powerful than a massive armoured serpent

[dusk laurel]

well theyre on the same tier so not really

similar strengths, but i feel eoc would get pummeled by ds since eoc cannot go through walls (phasing through walls wouldnt make sense unless its just eoc breaking through buildings)

[pliant ruin]

None of the "factions" in cal r inherently stronger than another

its like ultrakill

there were auric dragons weaker than gods and gods weaker than auric dragons

[wheat fjord]

Ye I've gotten that

[manic coral]

and people who are neither stronger than both

[stuck shore]

Are there other old lore characters in main cal that got scrapped?

Like Daedalus

[late veldt]

I'm not really sure the rest of Yharim's family plays any role whatsoever in new lore

[cosmic zenith]

Ignalius

[cosmic zenith]

Correct

[clear girder]

Is there any more lore with anahita and leviathan other than just Silva kicking them out of the abyss?

[wheat fjord]

lowkey i wouldnt blame anahita for teaming up w yharim

f them gods fr

[dusk laurel]

well

yharim started to hunt the elementals near the end of the crusade so that is unlikely

[clear girder]

Why tho

[dusk laurel]

brimmy

she burned up azafure along with calamitas

[wheat fjord]

why cant he just hunt brimny then

i gurrantee the cloud elemental aint do nothin

[pliant ruin]

its yharim

what do you expect

he isnt exactly know for having good morals

actually making out a entire group to be evil because of his negative experiences with one or a few members of it is like his entire deal

[wheat fjord]

i mean

alot of gods are really evil

[pliant ruin]

yeah and he's not killing those specifically he's killing all of them

he's not killing the evil gods because they're evil he's killing the evil gods because they're gods

they're all the same to him

[wheat fjord]

if half of ur bread loaf is moldy would you eat the other half

[pliant ruin]

man this is like the worst comparison ever

[spare pier]

You cut the first half and leave the other alone

You don't incinerate both of them

[wheat fjord]

i mean, they still had to killa dragon

[spare pier]

Ok. Ilmeris.

Did half of Ilmeris also kill a Dragon?

[pliant ruin]

a better comparison would be that a italian guy stabbed you so you decide that every italian person had to die and also you deploy child soldiers and cause a ecological collapse and nuke italy and also nuke the people who support italy and

[wheat fjord]

i mean aint yharim just going off his expirences and what his biased bestie tells him

[spare pier]

Yeah, and shocker

[pliant ruin]

back to the italian analogy
if ur best friend told you italians were evil would you kill every italian

😭

[spare pier]

Generalization is bad

[wheat fjord]

fair

[pliant ruin]

to any italians in chat i have nothinga gainst you it was just the first nationality that came to mind for the comparison 😭 😭

[wheat fjord]

it really doesnt help yharims best friend is the most biased being in existence #

[spare pier]

Even going by the bread analogy it's more like

If you bought a pack and half of it was moldy

But then you burn the entire pack away

And also the supermarket that sold it to you

[pliant ruin]

see i think that comparison isn't as good because reasonably yeah you wouldnt want to eat the rest of the bread even then bc of the way mold works

you know whati think would be more apt?

if a pack of bread had mold on it so you decide to burn every single pack of bread from that brand

😭

[spare pier]

I would say "and also the company that made the bread" but destroying a monopoly is always based

Capitalism bad blah blah blah

[pliant ruin]

its ok you just kill anyone who eats the bread instead bc theyre supporting it

the breadseeker

[spare pier]

The Breadseeker goes hard

[latent bolt]

bead

[wheat fjord]

i just wanna see yharim be right abt somth for once 😦 buddys catching more Ls than the immortal

[spare pier]

Yes that's what genocidals do

[pliant ruin]

When the fascist villain is a fascist villain

[wheat fjord]

yharims fighting genocide with genocide fr

competitive genocide

[pliant ruin]

i wouldnt even call the dragons extinction a genocide to be honest because it wasnt organized

the gods didnt all get together and plan to kill the dragons

[latent bolt]

yeah

[pliant ruin]

i think extinction is a better term if anything

[wheat fjord]

ima just say it bro, the auric dragons dont deserve their power if they got their ass beat by some monks

[latent bolt]

one wouldnt call the dodo's extinction a genocide
thats manmade extinction

[spare pier]

Genocide to me is just "extinction of any sentient species"

[latent bolt]

heck some of the auric dragons' auric souls could have been lost and not consumed

[spare pier]

(Or group for our matter)

[pliant ruin]

to me ffor it to be a genocide it has to be a organized effort

otherwise it's more of a extinction

[wheat fjord]

bro imagine finally killing a auric dragon just for that mf to turn out to be some derpy dragonfolly

[pliant ruin]

but to be fair i dont actually know what the definition of it entails

[wheat fjord]

alllat for nothin

[spare pier]

I mean, yeah it wasn't organized

But it was intentional

I think that's enough

[wheat fjord]

i can see where yharons coming from tho

[pliant ruin]

some dragons kinda deserved it though

fuck that dragon of frost and dragon of flames mfs

[latent bolt]

true

[spare pier]

Yharon's hatred is justified, but it doesn't matter

[wheat fjord]

idkthe lore of him but isnt that a book

[pliant ruin]

yeh

[latent bolt]

wait does lunarcheese know more about dragon of frost

[pliant ruin]

its understandable, but dosent make it right

[spare pier]

Just because you can understand why someone feels the way they feel, that doesn't justify their actions

[wheat fjord]

who tf is the dragon of frost

[pliant ruin]

hes some ice dragon guy and hes evil idk

[latent bolt]

idk, but yeah FUCK that guy

[spare pier]

Dragon of Frost being evil is moreso Triangle's interpretation of him, though I have nothing for the guy so

[wheat fjord]

im guessing yharon had to experience watching all his species get hunted after defending the planet.

[latent bolt]

heck its original incarnation (mammoth dragon) i headcanon as having cannibalized his own draconic brethren

[pliant ruin]

i think having more evil dragons that arent just flame would b nice so for the time being im also interpreting him that way

[latent bolt]

and using their auric souls too

[pliant ruin]

tho i do think

[spare pier]

As much as that idea is infact cool, it's like

[pliant ruin]

gods would be inherently alot more morally diverse than dragons by virtue of dragons having a ruler while gods are fully independent

even if some dragons might've been selfish, they'd probably be kept in line by zeratros, who i imagine to be more of hte lawful neutral type

[spare pier]

I don't think we can incorporate it into the story now unless we changed a bunch of pre-existing stuff

And I don't wanna go around rewriting Yharim's entire rethorical just to account for 1 (one) background character

[wheat fjord]

it would be cool if there was a group of people that dont like gods or dragons. like mid hunt (where there would be gods and dragons at the same time) they would go out of their way to kill both

[pliant ruin]

meanwhile gods come in all flavours we have. evil genocide flame moth. "literal saint" electric jellyfish. whatever is going on with slime god. tragic once-benevolent god turned into mindless destroyer ravager...

[latent bolt]

true

[pliant ruin]

y tho

[wheat fjord]

why not

[spare pier]

...Calamari is kinda that

But she is complex

[pliant ruin]

i don't see how you could reasonably fit that in calamity

it'd be like

a huge deal

calamri is a terrarian so it works

[spare pier]

But yeah, a group of "Auric Hunters" or whatever would be fucked

[pliant ruin]

and its fan content. technically

developer fan content

😭

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Specially because that'd imply these guys have been around for thousands of years

[wheat fjord]

idk i just thought of some guy crushing a auric soul in his hands and thought it was epic. mb guys

[scenic olive]

Auric Tesla Car

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But somehow never be enough of a problem to warrant attention

[latent bolt]

yeah

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So like, a group of, literally

Mid ass hunters

[pliant ruin]

ahem

many such cases.

[spare pier]

Killing you for that

[pliant ruin]

😭

[latent bolt]

rebecca dont kill her

[clear girder]

Why didn't Silva truly die

[latent bolt]

because she likely has some limited revival capability or smth

idk

[pliant ruin]

she's a elemental

so she's immortal

well technically not truly immortal but good luck killing her since you need to literally Get Rid of All Life

[latent bolt]

since silva is an elemental, would she count as a case of a non-human God?

[pliant ruin]

maybe if you go to prismos time room and do what the lich did idk

[pliant ruin]

ya

[latent bolt]

nice

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theres atleast 3 non human gods we know of

silva, tyrian, otonilou

[latent bolt]

i thought slime god was non-human too

[pliant ruin]

we don't really know what slime god was

reb headcanons they were a twink though so there's that i guess if you count twinks as nonhumans sure

[clear girder]

Wait if you need to destroy all life for Silva to truly be killed, does that mean brimstone elemental truly doesn't die when yiu beat her?

[pliant ruin]

nah

she dosent either

neither does anahita

all elementals r immortal

[wheat fjord]

wait guys wheres yharons auric soul at when he dies. dragon arie?

[pliant ruin]

probably?

[wheat fjord]

Also how does yharons powers work

[spare pier]

I have to admit goblin twink is a funny prospect

[wheat fjord]

or is he the reason all dragons can be reborn

and dat mainly it

[clear girder]

He can be born again

[pliant ruin]

yharn is immortla until he gets his soul absorbed

and yeah he can revive other auric dragons

[wheat fjord]

cant all dragons do dat tho

[latent bolt]

i like to think slime god was a slime pre-ascension

[spare pier]

But idk about making SG a goblin because I think that's just rubbing salt on the wound

[latent bolt]

or something similar

[pliant ruin]

can't really be the case because

well

sliekms aren't sapinet

ko´lm

nkjot wat

[clear girder]

Yharon was the guy that rebirthed the other dragons when they died

[wheat fjord]

got ittt

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Goblins are already fucking pathetic, I don't want to also give them the weakest known God

[wheat fjord]

and im guessing the fire powers just come with being a dragon

[latent bolt]

i thought there were other gods weaker than slime god too

[spare pier]

Keyword: known

[clear girder]

There probably are weaker ones

[wheat fjord]

slime god was def a pinky pre ancension trust

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Even if there were SG still is in the bottom 5

[wheat fjord]

gods get stronger the more of their domain there is right?

[spare pier]

I don't see it getting much weaker than SG

[pliant ruin]

nah thta's elementals

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Like, bro imagine if a God was weaker than a fucking QUEEN BEE

[latent bolt]

which one was the strongest elemental