lore-discussion

[wheat fjord]

Little things

Mb

[dusk laurel]

its fine

[manic coral]

yoru from csm speech bubble

[wheat fjord]

Wait different question, do you think fishrons would eat aquatic scoureges? Bigger food, lasts longer.

[snow mountain]

its got spines man

[dusk laurel]

i mean

AS is still alive

[wheat fjord]

There's not really alot of options in the sulphuric sea

[dusk laurel]

even though Old Duke exists

nefarious being

[wheat fjord]

There's multiple squatic scourges

[dusk laurel]

only 1 in this area

[wheat fjord]

Oh fr?

Why

[manic coral]

becuase it's a sulpherous sea

[dusk laurel]

large solitary filter feeder

[manic coral]

not exactly usually a desirable environment

and also that

[dusk laurel]

yeah

[wheat fjord]

I wonder what the leviathan eats

[split mortar]

We fight the weird member who doesn’t believe is climate change sea acidity

[pliant ruin]

theres multiple aquatic scourges its just that we only find one ingame

[wheat fjord]

The leviathan gotta be the top predator of the regular ocean ngl

She a big dawg

[dusk laurel]

i dont think she eats ngl

she just, exists because of Anahita

[deft vessel]

Counterpoint: food is yummy

[manic coral]

i agree

[wheat fjord]

Bacj to my desert scourege and fishron talk

There's not alot of other food sources in the regular ocean

Besides sharks ig?

[split mortar]

I mean
Duke fishron

[manic coral]

oceans are like some of the msot diverse and populated places in the world

[pliant ruin]

cool bug facts

[manic coral]

maybe you don't see much becuase you just see

[dusk laurel]

duke fishron solos leviathan

[manic coral]

the shore

but like

[pliant ruin]

^

[dusk laurel]

that

[pliant ruin]

the things you see ingame are not everything that exists

[wheat fjord]

I can see a gang of Duke fishrons killing a aquatic scourege for food

Like a pod of orcas or som shi jumping a whale

[manic coral]

it is one continent

in a world with like

5

[pliant ruin]

you cannot include a full living breathing world in a videogame

[mighty zenith]

surely fishrons have much easier prey than an aquatic scourgr

[dusk laurel]

fungal

[wheat fjord]

I wonder what other creatures are out there on the different continents

[dusk laurel]

i love the scuttler family in calamity

gem lizards

[manic coral]

lil guys

[wheat walrus]

Terraria is actually the universe

it's true...

[dusk laurel]

no way...

terraria is univ-

💥

[wheat walrus]

the calamity terrarian solos your favorite verse

trust me

he's outer

[cloud ibex]

rain worl(?)

[pliant ruin]

idk enough about rain world to comment but i imagine you don't explore literally every inch of the planet the game takes place on and find every single creature and such is what i mean

[wheat walrus]

Monster Hunter 1

the goat the real one the fr

the rathalos

[frigid sage]

Yeah, you are only in one facility area

Still, entire ecosystems fit in it

[hoary cape]

Imagine not having a game allow you to explore the entire world

[long sand]

where does scal rank around the strongest chars

[split mortar]

For all alive characters the top 10 we know of is
Xeroc
Noxus
Yharim
Primordial wyrm
Scal/exo
yharon
DoG
old duke
Polterghast

[pliant ruin]

braelor

also you (the terrarian)

[mighty zenith]

🫵

[split mortar]

The terrarian is whatfuck you want it to be so i ignored them

And because braelors main thing is with help we dunno the exacts that where they may scale

[pliant ruin]

fair but id say personally hes atleast comparable to DoG

[split mortar]

I just consider it too little info to really consider rn

[pliant ruin]

yeah thats fair

[foggy fern]

The Profaned Guardians disrespect their healer and it pmo

The so-called Defender does nothing to protect them, none of them do

Defender and Commander are hiding in their shield making out while Healer does all the work

Guardian Healer deserved the Auric Soul just for putting up with those two

In fact "I am the bravest, I should be the one" is right

They ARE the bravest

Commander is a god damn coward and can't command a squadron to save their life

[long sand]

tbh they were never getting the soul

provi is a asshole like that even if they did deserve it

[foggy fern]

I'm now a Providence hater and Healer supporter but fuck that commander specifically bro

Why is your Healer doing all the work in the front

Healer's got the most powerful offense too

[pulsar ocean]

does yharim approve of child labor

[foggy fern]

Giant holy deathray and crystal shards

Guardians would have probably kicked the Terrarian's ass if they protected the damn Healer instead of letting them die in 10 seconds flat

[split mortar]

He had a child soldier

He approves of worse

[foggy fern]

All because Commander is hogging the damage shield all to themselves

[keen oyster]

crazy how old duke isnt at the top frfr

[timid lotus]

calamity terrarian vs fargo souls terrarian real

[split mortar]

Does fargos souls even have any substantial lore…

[timid lotus]

nope

[foggy fern]

Does Fargo’s have substantial anything

[cloud ibex]

there's three siblings and there's a lumberjack and the lumberjack is god or something

:D

i think that's it

[dusk laurel]

what about that squirrel

[split mortar]

Yes

[split mortar]

Straps bombs to its bretheren

[cloud ibex]

squirrel

[dusk laurel]

based

[split mortar]

Wait what
I thought lumberjack was just a buff guy

[cloud ibex]

idk mutant says he's afraid of lumberjack or something

i don't remember

it isn't anything you're supposed to take seriously

[tepid timber]

Or maybe he’s the next boss

[noble niche]

Is there a way to use lore to know if update tomorrow?

[pulsar ocean]

is echdeath canon

[cloud ibex]

to fargo's? idk i wouldn't be surprised

[ruby heart]

and i made a lot of the signus stuff (that why i talked about it)

i only talk about private stuff when i made them p much or was a big part of making it (i did make a few slip ups in the past tho but i fixed it later or deleted the message right after)

[sudden ruin]

what kinda signus stuff i think i missed

[split mortar]

They dont die
We fight statis possessed by signus
Its a deal and if we lose we go under signus control
Statis has shadow arm prosthetics not robot ones

[gritty kraken]

Skeletron

[pulsar ocean]

that shit is gonna go hard af in the next 500 years when this gets added

[split mortar]

Yeah

[latent bolt]

the secret lore of fargo's goes hard actually

[pulsar ocean]

It's like saying vanilla Terraria has lore

[sinful adder]

It does, but it's mega stupid

[river python]

what's the power scale of Xeroc?

[tall delta]

continent

[river python]

just that?

[tall delta]

i ove powzerscalinx...

[tall delta]

yes

[river python]

i mean the Ark Of Element when parry can cut the fabric of the reality

how tf Xeroc is just Continent

[tall delta]

Its just hyperbole

It can t actually do that

🕴️

[river python]

Pressing Right Click while holding UP with empowered charges will provoke a Big Rip in spacetime and use all charges

[tall delta]

i mean maybe idk can but not on an insane level

[dusk laurel]

[tepid timber]

Even if it can it’s obviously not a massive tear

[dusk laurel]

smth smth powerscalers when they see a metaphor

[tepid timber]

Calamity does not scale very high so I doubt it actually does do that

[tepid timber]

Compared to most fictional universes

[river python]

hipotetically Noxus created the ceaseless void, and Xeroc>Noxus

[tall delta]

ceaseless void is a portal 🥱

[river python]

of other dimension

[dusk laurel]

wrong

[river python]

wrong?

[dusk laurel]

distortion is not another dimension

[river python]

the distortion is not another dimension?

[dusk laurel]

it's a fucked up place in the same dimension

with similar properties to a pocket dimension

[river python]

hmm

[pulsar ocean]

Calamity scales low compared to something like dragon ball in general

[river python]

hmmm

it's confusing

and the God Slayer Slugs? are supposed to tear the space time too.

[gritty kraken]

Me when reaper shark could tank charged ark of the cosmos

Does this mean reaper shark scale above galaxy level

[river python]

that mf is so op

[gritty kraken]

By the way event horizon doesn’t actually make real blackhole
yharon can’t tank blackhole assuming blackhole in calamity lore isn’t different from the irl one

[river python]

In the game works like a portal that spawns stars, not like a irl black hole

But makes sense

Yharon shouldn't tank a blackhole

[pulsar ocean]

Is supernova actually a supernova

I don't think scal can survive a supernova

[tepid timber]

Why is it called death mode? People don’t actually die do they?

[pulsar ocean]

Why is it called revengence mode who the fuck are we revenging

We just arrived here

[gritty kraken]

Who’s master of death

[pulsar ocean]

Who's expert revengence

[tepid timber]

Why is Yharon called the jungle dragon? He doesn’t look like a jungle

[pulsar ocean]

Why is yharim called the jungle tyrant if he's not even in the fucking jungle

[gritty kraken]

His feathers alone contain a lot of dragons

[tepid timber]

Why is it called the dragon aerie? Is the air made of dragons?

[river python]

Did not the freakin Astrum Deus eat stars?

[pulsar ocean]

Why is it called the auric soul if auric is a metal souls can't be fucking solids

[gritty kraken]

Does he know….

(The deus species eat the same kind of stars as fallen stars)

[sinful adder]

Stars as we know them don't exist in calamity

Fallen stars are regular stars, the largest stars are just boulder sized

[river python]

Huh? What tf is the sun what we see so

[gritty kraken]

Ball of light

[tepid timber]

Real

[river python]

Okay so the ball of light have less height than a human

[sinful adder]

The sun is its own special thing and is not a star in calamity

[twin breach]

Do yall think yharim ever had to use buff potions 😔

[tepid timber]

Yeah

Like a loser

Bet he used wings too

[river python]

I'm sure Yharim liked the bees because he smokes the honey

[warped bloom]

clicks on lore chat
instantly has a stroke
Seems on par

[river python]

Instead of killing Yharim the terrarian can 1v1 Yharim with the ball of light in soccer

[manic coral]

big ball of energy orbiting the planet

[cosmic zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/five-nights-at-freddy's-fnaf-bonnie-balls-gif-2797116383183558880

[manic coral]

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-calamity-rage-anger-meme-gif-11741976053183870900

[cosmic zenith]

I'm not doing well 🎶

Another shitty day in Hell!

(University)

[manic coral]

speaking of time to go back to fighting Furious Rajang

[robust osprey]

I hope you survive..

[glacial rampart]

"hunt my monsters" -r. t. athalos

[cosmic zenith]

Same

(It's not that bad, I'm being dramatic)

[spring helm]

fuck i didnt mean for that to ping

[pastel bay]

All this power scaling talk and nobody is acknowledging the fact that the terrarian is probably impossible to kill forever

[gritty kraken]

Respawning ain’t canon

[cold chasm]

Calamity is meant to be played in hardcore

[thorn drift]

Im pretty sure the largest stars are meteorite sized, as the astral meteor was actually a star iirc

[pliant ruin]

yea stars get bigger than just fallen stars but nowhere near as big asi rl stars still

[split mortar]

The terrarians lore is up to you so like

You can make any bs argument you want fir the terrarian

[robust osprey]

terrarian is actually just fanny's disguise

yharim is also fanny in auric armor

[scenic olive]

how does yharon reproduce

[latent bolt]

he cant - there are no true auric dragon women

[limpid saddle]

Who's to say most Auric Dragons can reproduce anyway?

Yharon's some kind of weird bird thing, & as far as we know pre-Hunt & Fovos Invasion the Auric Dragons were as plentiful as they were varied

Obviously there were some compatible dragons as to go on to spawn things like the Dragonfolly & Fishrons, but given their supposed variation it seems unlikely any dragon could just find any other dragon & settle down

& given the fact they were meant to basically live forever anyway thanks to Yharon it seems unnecesary

[pulsar ocean]

Can't he poop out eggs

Like a chicken

[cloud ibex]

You know maybe you right, they probably didn’t have too many children even if they could

[pulsar ocean]

If only humans didn't interfere

[cloud ibex]

Iirc there is a phenomenon in nature where the longer an animal lives on average, the less children it’ll have

[cosmic zenith]

Rebirth =/= live forever

The Auric Dragons still aged and died

[limpid saddle]

basically is there for a reason

it's an oversimplification

[pastel bay]

I mean for rebirth to happen one has to die first.

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah but reproduction is necessary for a species that still goes through the process of death

[pulsar ocean]

Is the egg

A decoy

For yharon

Or does he actually come out of it

[pastel bay]

So, Yharon is reborn through his egg, according to the way he met Yharim.
Does that mean if the egg is destroyed his soul would act like all other auric souls were meant to?

[cosmic zenith]

It's a ceremonial egg

[pastel bay]

Aw ya beat me to it

[cosmic zenith]

Not his actual egg, obviously

[pulsar ocean]

So why does yharon come for the egg

[pastel bay]

I suppose if any old idiot the universe dropped out of thin air could make an egg by hand the age of dragons would've never ended

Dragonfolly feathers?

Or because like Yharim he's been watching

[cloud ibex]

i suppose to put it one way, they still needed new "hosts" for their souls to be reborn with upon death

[pulsar ocean]

What if Draedon cloned yharon

[pastel bay]

That's

That's the dragonfolly isn't it

[cloud ibex]

local discord user invents old lore

[pastel bay]

Or has that changed

[pulsar ocean]

That's dragon folly?

[pastel bay]

Right that's been changed was not aware

[cloud ibex]

dragonfolly was a fucked up yharon clone

now it's another draconic offshoot

[pastel bay]

Ah neat

[pulsar ocean]

Why is draedon so bad at cloning

[pastel bay]

He works best with machines and might be just really bad with biological material

[cloud ibex]

i don't think he's that bad at it in current lore?

[pastel bay]

As in creating new stuff.

He's great with working to improve it

[cloud ibex]

only example of a clone i can think of is cal's and i think the only reason she went badly is cause cal herself interfered

[pastel bay]

True. It has also been an unknown ammount of time since then, so I'd imagine he'd perfect it

Scary enough with his machines though.

[limpid saddle]

Yeah C.C was a perfect clone, but Brimstone magic isn't in her genetics, so she didnt naturally have it

& given her headspace, or, lack thereof, & then the sudden burden of the flames when you've experienced no other life but a cold lab or a storage tank, & then stack that on top of getting blasted presumably by a best hits compilation of Calamitas's worst memories, shit fucked her up

[pastel bay]

Is the clone a duplicated sentience (among all the other things) contained inside a construct or what's going on there? I've always wondered

[cloud ibex]

afaik she's a fairly standard clone inside a life support machine

[limpid saddle]

It's a human body, current sprite isnt canon, but the current sprite is considered as a life-support machine housing her

So it's like the sprite's context has been retconned

[river python]

Hipotetically Yharon is stronger than Zeratross? If Zeratross alive

[quiet idol]

Actually thought
Doesn't Betsy fuck up the whole "Yharon is the last dragon alive"
Like serious question

[river python]

Betsy have an Auric soul?

[young socket]

no since crossover content is non canon

[young socket]

no

[split mortar]

Nope
Zeratros would be comparable to yharim if they were alive

[river python]

So, Yharon is the last

[quiet idol]

Oh

[split mortar]

Betsy is cross over content and thus not canon

Either way no even if they were canon, yharon is the last auric dragon, many dragons still exist and we even kill some in game

[river python]

In that case Prime Fovos>Noxus?

[split mortar]

Yes

[river python]

Fovos should be extremely stronger to can 1v10+ Dragons

[quiet idol]

Wait we do???

Aside like Yharon

[split mortar]

Duke fishron
Wyverns
Old duke
Eidolon wyrms
Jared
Basilisks

Dragon folly

[quiet idol]

Oh yeah
Dragon Folly should of been obvious mb

But the Dukes??
Huh

[split mortar]

All draconic offshoots are still dragons

[cloud ibex]

fovos was incredibly powerful but also had the advantage of kinda hard countering the dragons trying to swarm him

[quiet idol]

Wait I'm super small brain tf are Jared and Basilisks

[river python]

Jared is the nameless serpent, or the Eidolon Wyrm

[split mortar]

Teleport in abyss to find jared

Basilisks are just some underground desert vanilla enemy iirc

[river python]

Primordial Eidolon*

[split mortar]

Nameless serpent is dog

[cloud ibex]

if he's still pretty damn far up the list in terms of power after being ripped in half, disembowelled and having his skull cracked open and his brain exposed, imagine what he woulda been like in his prime

[quiet idol]

OOH that's Jared

[split mortar]

Yharon aint even the strongest dragon alive when we start the game lol

[river python]

Is not?

[split mortar]

Jared is stronger then yharon

Theyre stronger then scal

[quiet idol]

Oh yeah
Gotta change a lore note I had them
Because the one is just "Yharon is the last dragon alive"
Didn't know about there is non auric soul dragons

Kinda slipped my mind there

[cloud ibex]

well

[quiet idol]

Also
I have a small thing of lore notes because why not

[young socket]

try reading better next time

[cloud ibex]

when you think of a dragon in cal's context you're probably gonna think of the auric dragons before any of the offshoots

[split mortar]

Better to have the technicalities sorted out anyways

[pastel bay]

And to be fair you wouldn't think of the pigrons being draconic by appearance beyond the wings

[pulsar ocean]

Looking at the new old Duke
Why did the dukes get fatter and smaller with each generation

[cosmic zenith]

The egg is moreso a device for spawning Yharon rather than a canonical thing
But it is a sort of mockery of his worship

[quiet idol]

Yeah didn't know Jared was a dragon

[split mortar]

Evolution
Probably too big to support an entire species that big as easily
Plus despite being smaller and rounder they are still possibly the undisputed apex of the seas afaik so not like getting weaker would have much downside

[river python]

Akato is canon?

[split mortar]

Nope, yharon is maidenless

[quiet idol]

So if I got these notes right now

• Yharon is the last auric dragon alive
• Creatures like Primordial Wyrm, Dragon Folly and Old Duke are normal dragons without a auric soul

I think that's right??

[split mortar]

Yeah

[quiet idol]

Nice

[river python]

Akato is canon or not

[young socket]

no

its a donor item

[river python]

Oh

[quiet idol]

Nanoblack Reaper is not canon

[split mortar]

No shadowspec items are

[real silo]

What if I add yhariminion as a shadowspec item

[river python]

DoG could farm power with the Austrum Deus Species?

[split mortar]

Maybe? If they can handle the lack of breathable air and not explode from being in space then possibly
-# though idk if dog gets powers from what it eats in new lore

[limpid saddle]

It's pretty possible that a fully developed Astrum Deus, if not rival, be only a smidgen below the Devourer's power

& given there are, one can assume

Alot of them

If a few noticed a big fuck-ass lizard going around eating them

They'd probably just band together & beat him to death

[river python]

Makes sense

Because if i remember well, one Astrum Deus and the Dog already Battle one time

So DoG could eat a lot of them and farm power

[split mortar]

Thats old lore

Was the case
Not anymore

[sleek halo]

I do not believe DoG gets any stronger

from eating things

He seems kinda just

built strong

[sleek halo]

maybe

they might not be intelligent or enough

or care enough

to do so

[stoic gulch]

What’s ceaseless void lore I forgot

[sleek halo]

He’s a portal

Sealed

by the dungeon cultistd

afaik

[stoic gulch]

Oh that was Jerry probably

[split mortar]

Permanent portal made by noxus
Sealed by dragon cult and the seal is so strong cause it uses the portal as power source

[stoic gulch]

I ducking hate Jerry

[sleek halo]

It’s heavily implied to be

created by Noxus

not guaranteed

(though practically is )

[limpid saddle]

Well at the bare minimum I think they could understand the threat that DoG would pose to them in this situation

[sleek halo]

maybe

but also

animals don’t tend to gang up

on a thing

[mighty zenith]

1% margin of error

[sleek halo]

it’d be like if the aquatic scourges

[limpid saddle]

I think they're a bit beyond animals

[sleek halo]

came for you

[limpid saddle]

well, single scourge

[sleek halo]

because u killed 1

[limpid saddle]

im pretty sure there is only one

[sleek halo]

nah no way

there is absolutely more

just probably not in this area

[limpid saddle]

Im not so sure

[sleek halo]

since they seem pretty damn

territorial

[limpid saddle]

Not really

Given they are

[pulsar ocean]

Why is a solid portal such a big feat in cal lore if steve Minecraft does that on his average playthrough multiple times

[limpid saddle]

Completely chill

[sleek halo]

the acid rain 2 does not happen

until it dies

[limpid saddle]

Until you start trying to beat them to death

[sleek halo]

inassume it’s because

[mighty zenith]

yes

[sleek halo]

it makes things that could eat its food

fuck off

[mighty zenith]

they're chill until something starts threatening them

[sleek halo]

like orcas are chill with us

and brutalize the fuck

out of everything else

LOL

[mighty zenith]

yep

[sleek halo]

only until we fuck with them

and then they fuck with us

[mighty zenith]

the acid rain assholes are very much more threatening to it than humans

[latent bolt]

why are orcas seemingly chill with us in particular

[mighty zenith]

theyre smart

[limpid saddle]

Yeah so if anything it would make sense for the Aquatic Scourge(s) [maybe] to have a pack mentality

[sleek halo]

we really pose 0 threat

[sleek halo]

they’re big

[mighty zenith]

they dont see us as a threat unless we specifically attack them

[sleek halo]

and strong

[limpid saddle]

It's not like they lack food & need to be territorial

[sleek halo]

nothing can really kill them

[mighty zenith]

we're just tiny baby monkeys that wanna swim sometimes

[sleek halo]

other than old duke

and old duke seemingly doesn’t care to

[pulsar ocean]

Why is it called auric soul did auric dragons eat auric bars

[latent bolt]

old duke has different prey

[limpid saddle]

Yeah cause Aquatic Scourge is like the homeless dog that occassionally shits on his front garden & mauls pests to death

[sleek halo]

probably also because Aquatic Scourge

would be far harder to hunt

and not worth the effort

[limpid saddle]

No it's the other way around

[mighty zenith]

old duke is like
really fucking smart too

[sleek halo]

since he could at least put up a fight

[limpid saddle]

Souls made bars

[mighty zenith]

he probably realizes that aqua scoog fends off more threatening prey

[limpid saddle]

Bars did not make soul

[sleek halo]

yeah

aquatic scourge the goat tbh

[mighty zenith]

i mean he only shows up once we get rid of the threatening stuff like nuclear terrors

(or if we give him a little treat)

[limpid saddle]

They really is

& they is probably the last of their species

[pulsar ocean]

So they ate the auric ore

[sleek halo]

then we kill him so we can progression skip

[limpid saddle]

Until we beat them to death

[limpid saddle]

No the souls made the ore in the first place

[mighty zenith]

i mean when is it implied they're the last?

[limpid saddle]

It's like the leftover energy of their screaming souls co-alesce into a very angry metal

[mighty zenith]

desert scourge has kids and yet we dont see any other members of its species besides the big one and its young

[sleek halo]

i personally assume

[pulsar ocean]

Why are we so evil that clone of the homeless girl did not deserve death

[sleek halo]

aquatic scourge has multiple more members of its species

[mighty zenith]

🧱

[sleek halo]

probably a mercy i’m not gonna lie

[limpid saddle]

Well all of their logs read as if it is the only one

[sleek halo]

she was literally ctazy

[limpid saddle]

It's all singular

[sleek halo]

i imagine that

this aquatic scourge

[limpid saddle]

It makes no mention to the aquatic scourges as a species

[sleek halo]

is different from members

of its species

due to the radiation

adapted but still fucked up

[limpid saddle]

I don't know bro

We're like evil batman

Instead of beating the mentally ill into submission we just beat them to death

[mighty zenith]

i love owlman

[limpid saddle]

Yeah i can get that

he's pretty cool

[mighty zenith]

wait wrong evil batman...

[pulsar ocean]

Also poor dragonfolly

Old Duke probably deserved death I do not like him

[limpid saddle]

Something something 'oh you dont have to fight it for progression' something something 'the terrarian is you & makes YOUR choices'

[sleek halo]

I mewn

[limpid saddle]

Apparently in the re-work he's gonna attack us with enslaved severely beaten fishron children so yeah, fair's to say he does

[sleek halo]

there’s more of them

Honestly dragon folly is one of the deaths where like

yeah we killed a skrunkly

but there is like 50000 more of the skrunkly

LOL

[limpid saddle]

Thats like saying shooting an elephant 17 times in the chest with a 12 gauge is fine because theres more of them

[sleek halo]

tbf it could be that the dragonfolly came after us

they’re extremely aggressive

[limpid saddle]

It's still morally objectionable at best

[sleek halo]

and they will beat you to death if given the chance

like I kinda imagine it like

ur wandering through the jungle

[limpid saddle]

They been hunted for at this point for nearly literally a millenia

[sleek halo]

and then the dude comes barreling at you

[sleek halo]

not saying their reaction is unreasonable

[pulsar ocean]

Imagine poor eidolon wyrms missing their dad after we brutally killed him

[sleek halo]

well

tbf

he seemingly never gave a fuck about them

[limpid saddle]

& their step-mother's corpse is still lying in the ground

[sleek halo]

considering reaper sharks are still

chilling around

crushing eidolon skulls

even though jared could absolutely rock all of their collective shit

[limpid saddle]

Jared's spent too long drinking & being filled with hatred for the Primordial Light

[cloud ibex]

so much of a hater he's neglecting his descendants

[sleek halo]

i kinda imagine it’s like

he believes himself

closer to auric dragons

than he is to his own kind

which tbh

is probably true

sure he may not have an auric soul

but he is blessed by a god

and brother is straight up the second strongest dragon ever

[pulsar ocean]

what is jared gonna have after 500 years

[sleek halo]

me myself and i

and also some good ol hatred

I do not imagine he’s dying of old age anytime soon

[pulsar ocean]

how do eidolon wyrms reproduce

[limpid saddle]

mod that replaces jared's head with gabriel ultrakill

[pulsar ocean]

is there a female primordial wyrm

[sleek halo]

Well

no

[limpid saddle]

idfk mitosis?

[sleek halo]

if there was

they’re dead as fuck

[dusk laurel]

we only find one ingame

they are solitary massive filter feeders, why would there be more than one in the hellhole of the sulph sea

[dusk laurel]

if i attacked you with the intent to kill because people who bear a resemblance to you tried to kill me for like a decade, does that excuse my actions

[real silo]

What if jared is actually a female

Ever thought about that

[mighty zenith]

jarette

[real silo]

janed

[sleek halo]

Jar

[mighty zenith]

jannet

[dusk laurel]

jaret

[real silo]

jareto

15

[magic epoch]

isn't Jared the same as the eidolon wyrms? but beefed up by Silva

[sleek halo]

He is the first eidolon wyrm

he is also

seemingly sapient

and also yeah blessed by silva

not to mention

his strength isn’t just beefed up

he is extraordinarily stronger

He surpasses every dragon, auric included, excluding one

[split mortar]

Excluding the sun dragon

-# zeratros

[sleek halo]

and even then

[split mortar]

And even then its damn fucking close

[sleek halo]

it’s extremely close

yeah

lol

[split mortar]

Like literally
Jared could win the fight if lucky

[sleek halo]

well

I imagine even though they’re so close in strength

due to the nature of Zeratros’ attacks

it’d be like

70-30

[split mortar]

Fair

[sleek halo]

(also in character, they’d never fight lol)

i do want a draedon abyss thing

that mentions expedition bots he sends out

going randomly missing

like existing

then gone

it would be so gas

[split mortar]

That would be great

[latent bolt]

Was there ever a dragon of Night or the Moon

[sleek halo]

maybe?

probably not

Moon is more likely than night

[split mortar]

I disagree

[sleek halo]

the issue with it is they’d probably be

really important

if they existed

[gritty kraken]

Dragon of moon is def fovos guys

[sleek halo]

true

[split mortar]

The sun effects the world much more then the moon but due to only its light getting to the planet only a sunlight soul was made

So maybe the blood moons weird light could have had a dragon

But the moon itself wouldnt

Afaik

[dusk laurel]

i mean

since zeratros is the defacto dragon of the sun

and he can also control the darkness

[split mortar]

Yeah zeratros may also count as dragon of night in some shaky sense of the words

[split mortar]

Shadows specifically iirc, not just any darkness

[dusk laurel]

okay well

yeah

[clear girder]

When a god dies do they leave an auric soul behind?

And if they do could Yharon revive the dragon or would it just revive the god again

[limpid saddle]

Apparently a God's soul basically explodes when they die

[bleak escarp]

Yeah

[limpid saddle]

By merging the human & auric soul, it becomes too unstable to exist outside their body

Or something along similar lines

[bleak escarp]

I think that’s why when we kindly remove some of them no soul drops but rather an essence type thing.

[split mortar]

No
A gods soul leaves no trace of the auric soul behind

Also yeah their souls go kaboom, thats why they leave essence around and not normal souls

[wheat fjord]

Imagine the lore is entirely different from what yharim thinks.

Like fovos never existed, it was the dragons that turned on their king zeratos. Zeratos gave his soul to his most trusted monk after being attacked.

Or some rando shi

[limpid saddle]

uh. Why?

[bleak escarp]

But we murder a weakened fovos

[wheat fjord]

Oh tru

I'm just trippin tn

Rn

[warm cape]

Gang who is the "her" that is mentioned during supreme calamitas fight ost

[clear girder]

Yharon sounded really loyal to zeratros

[wheat fjord]

Yeah

[clear girder]

So he probably didn't lie to Yharim

[wheat fjord]

Idk I like thinking of hypotheticals

[limpid saddle]

Something something old lore

[warm cape]

Ok

[limpid saddle]

something something calamitas clone?

[warm cape]

ts is confusing

[limpid saddle]

I dont know i havent listened to the vocals in a while

[wheat fjord]

Calsmitas clone mad fodder

[split mortar]

Her, means scal
The song changes from her perspective, “yours” and a third party outside view
-# not canon song lyrics tho

[wheat fjord]

Pre plantera shitz

[limpid saddle]

she my goat shut up

[warm cape]

Its canon in my heart💗

[wheat fjord]

She gets destroyed pre plantera bud

[clear girder]

What even makes a god

[limpid saddle]

wait why does that matter?

[wheat fjord]

She's a weak copy of calamitas

[wheat fjord]

Devouring an auric soul

[limpid saddle]

Someone who eats an Auric Soul in the ascension ritual

Bing bang thats a god

[split mortar]

Being who did the god ascension ritual on a auric soul

[clear girder]

But astrum deus is god

[bleak escarp]

Someone who partook in genocide against dragons and absorbed their soul

[limpid saddle]

He isnt

[warm cape]

True hammer of might with a few accessories and demonshade armor❤️

[split mortar]

Eh
Not really

[limpid saddle]

He is worshipped as a god

[wheat fjord]

He isn't. It's a species

[split mortar]

Its a being seen as a god but it isnt one

[wheat fjord]

The astrum deus we fight is a mere juvenile

[warm cape]

Astrum deus is said to be a god in the lore item he drops...

[clear girder]

Guess the lore vid that i watched was fake

[limpid saddle]

Or speculated to be by Draedon

[limpid saddle]

Worshipped as a god

[bleak escarp]

He is not a true god

[warm cape]

hes worshipped yeah mb

[limpid saddle]

Probably not fake, probably old lore

[warm cape]

Adult astrum deus when

[bleak escarp]

Fun fight

[limpid saddle]

Never zrah...

[warm cape]

Aghhh

[limpid saddle]

We got like 3 more bosses left & they're in 3 billion fargo seconds...

[wheat fjord]

Isn't an adult astrum deus like roughly the same strength as the devourer

[limpid saddle]

& 2 of them are up in the air on whether or not they'll even be implemented in the first place...

[warm cape]

3? I need atleast 5 more

[dusk laurel]

what

[split mortar]

We dunno

[limpid saddle]

No that's about the estimation I made

[wheat fjord]

Or is that old lore

[split mortar]

We only got measurements on old lore deus iirc

[dusk laurel]

that is a MASSIVE jump

[warm cape]

Prolly less cuz devourer was BUSTED with the armor draedon did for him if i remember correctly

[wheat fjord]

We gotta armour up astrum deus

[limpid saddle]

Come on he's like 1 boss behind moon lord & it's a stupid infected baby

[warm cape]

YEAHHH

LETS ARMOUR HIM UP

[split mortar]

Thats what someone theorises
Which i can see since well, we fight a infected child possibly

[wheat fjord]

Armoured deus

[dusk laurel]

the infected form i feel like is stronger

[wheat fjord]

Conwerour of the stars

[split mortar]

Yeah this

[warm cape]

Devourer of sols

[limpid saddle]

A full power full developed un-infected Astrum Deus definetly would wipe the floor

[dusk laurel]

nah

[wheat fjord]

Moonlord needs some buffs. I want bro to throw a moon at me

[warm cape]

That vs me and my triactis true hammer of might

[bleak escarp]

We need a fully grown infected deus

[warm cape]

This is so wrath of the gods coded

[limpid saddle]

How does a disease make you better at murdering people when it's not even doing it's typical astral infection fair of glorping up the infected in question

[wheat fjord]

Nu uh calamitas has a big red sun shi

[dusk laurel]

what

[warm cape]

Im just saying cuz avatar of emptiness throws PLANETS at us mid fight

[dusk laurel]

i think you had a heart attack

[split mortar]

Moonlord is still among the strongest beings ever on the planet after

Being cut in half
Scooped out organs
Broken open skull
Left on the moon without sustenance for 8 centuries

[pliant ruin]

avatar of emptiness lore is so cool

[wheat fjord]

Whats the lore behind it

[split mortar]

Also like
Fight eternity moonlord if you want that

[warm cape]

imagine full power moonlord

[wheat fjord]

Is it just some diety crying to consume our universe

[pliant ruin]

its a dead universe

[limpid saddle]

I just dont see how an infected Deus is stronger than an un-infected Deus

[pliant ruin]

it used to be a creature like nameless

[split mortar]

Its above noxus below xeroc

[pliant ruin]

a physical manifestation of the universe essentially

but then the universe reached heat death

[warm cape]

anything is above noxus and below xeroc atp

[split mortar]

We may just not be able to win against if

[split mortar]

No?
Literally only fovos at full power is

[pliant ruin]

and now avatar is alone and sad and has been alone and sad for thousands of years in a void of nothingness bc literally its entire universe is dead

[warm cape]

Who is fovos

[limpid saddle]

Moon Lord

[split mortar]

Moonlord has multiple names

[warm cape]

Im above noxus

[limpid saddle]

calamity name for him

[pliant ruin]

so it goes to our universe to try consuming nameless iirc? so it can essentially birth its own universe anew and not be so lonely

avatar is just sad i feel bad for him

[wheat fjord]

Is nameless stronger than avatar

[pliant ruin]

hes not even inherently evil

[limpid saddle]

yes

[pliant ruin]

hes just lonely

[warm cape]

HE IS EVIL

HE IS EVIL AF GANG

[split mortar]

Proof?
Go fight base cal noxus now then

[wheat fjord]

That's crazy. Imagine trying to consume something stronger than you

[dusk laurel]

(wrong)

[warm cape]

He makes it rain blood dude how is that good

[wheat fjord]

Nameless done hit him with a "PAUSE" mid fight

[pliant ruin]

avatar and nameless are equal in strenght in theory

[dusk laurel]

it's the name for it by a group of people

[pliant ruin]

they're obth the same type of being

[dusk laurel]

sky people

[indigo glade]

Why doesn't it just live in our universe? Is it stupid???

[cloud ibex]

if the infection fucks with its brain and amps up its aggression or something like that i can imagine it

[wheat fjord]

Doesn't nameless stop the fight for the funzies

[warm cape]

im at school rn but i have beaten noxus like 6 times

[split mortar]

Not the old wotg one

[cloud ibex]

no ND probably stops the fight cause like

[warm cape]

Oh so lore wise noxus is stronger now

[cloud ibex]

he doesn't want AoE in there

[dusk laurel]

1, it's more armored, 2 the infection actually motivates it to kill, 3, astral infection seems to increase the strength of infected beings, like the infection enemies are just stronger than their normal counterparts (like the spiders)

[limpid saddle]

I mean when he comes crawling & screaming out of a tear in space like some kind of horrible stillborn cosmic fetus it doesnt exactly imply the best things

[warm cape]

Xeroc is so goated

[wheat fjord]

Is the nameless diety destined to become a avatar??

Cus like

Heat death

[indigo glade]

But why so stupid??????

[pliant ruin]

i wish wotg wasnt associated with calamity lore because its lore is actually so much more interesting as its own separate thing

[wheat fjord]

Of the universe

[mighty zenith]

i mean thats just how i look trying to interact with society

[split mortar]

Afaik yeah

[cloud ibex]

probably

[warm cape]

No nameless deity is goated and will survive

[cloud ibex]

but that'd be billions of years away presumably

[pliant ruin]

by the community, i mean

avatar is just a little guy

[warm cape]

Heat death of chat😢

[indigo glade]

Stupid???????????????????

[wheat fjord]

Is the nameless diety supposed to be xeroc or wha

[limpid saddle]

I just don't see how at the level of something like Deus, or even Aureus, the Infection is able to have enough of an impact on it as to improve it's power

[pliant ruin]

no

ive

im literally just talking

about how

its separate from calamity lore

reading comprehension devil from chainsaw man

[cloud ibex]

neither ND nor AoE have anything to do with cal, really

[limpid saddle]

It can improve weak creatures it's enthralled I don't think if it got it's hands on something like Dragonfolly it would make it stronger

[split mortar]

No

[split mortar]

Truly the worst thing to happen

[pliant ruin]

literally 3 minutes ago 😭

[indigo glade]

I have now decided Avatar of Emptiness is now stupid.

Because no one could give a proper answer.

[pliant ruin]

stipude deity

[wheat fjord]

I hope the yharim fight goes crazy

[limpid saddle]

He's not saying he'll die he'll saying the universe will die & Nameless will become something like Avatar Of Emptiness

[split mortar]

-# i suffer it aswell on england tests

[dusk laurel]

you dont see the vision

its okay

[mighty zenith]

guys did you know that the ninja is guide's brother

wow!

groundbreaking lor

[dusk laurel]

insane

[wheat fjord]

Madness

[indigo glade]

Statis is the Guide's brother?!

[mighty zenith]

holy sh*t...

[wheat fjord]

Yharim is gonna have like 20 million hp bro. Balancing that fight against my 80k-300k dps depending if rage is active.

[split mortar]

I mean
Aureus spawns astral lasers and shit when it almost def wasnt capable of that earlier being a recon scout drone thing afaik

So like
YeH it prob does buff aureus a lot, atleast offensively

[magic epoch]

did you know aureus deus yaoi

[pliant ruin]

right as you sent this message the love town theme started playing

[wheat fjord]

Yharim gonna have 500 million hp

[limpid saddle]

I think we just need Vetrasyl or Cei or Rebecca to descend from their thrones & declare wether or not the Astral Infection makes every creature it enthralls stronger

[pliant ruin]

this is a sign

[split mortar]

We wont have shadowspec gear for yharim

[split mortar]

Yes we do thanks to garbo

[magic epoch]

only demonshade

[limpid saddle]

I forget are they murdering shadowspec or is it just getting re-tiered?

[magic epoch]

retiered

[pliant ruin]

retiered

[magic epoch]

to post yharim

[split mortar]

That wont be shadowspec by the time we kick yharim in the foot

[magic epoch]

not demonshade though

[mighty zenith]

demonshade will become post-scal armor and definitely nerfed

[pliant ruin]

demonshade will be post scal yeah

[magic epoch]

which is just ashes of calamity

!!!

[pliant ruin]

demonshade should totally be a brimflame exhume...

[magic epoch]

like the song lyric

[dusk laurel]

true...

[mighty zenith]

erm... its annihilation

stupid

idiot

dumass

[magic epoch]

oh bo

no

oh no no no

im taking rapid dot

[mighty zenith]

saruman the wrinkly

[cloud ibex]

demonshade should have PoE2 demon mode instead of the enrage

,,,,

[limpid saddle]

ok so uh

what exhumed weapons would you guys wanna see

im sure you can somehow tie this to lore

just make shit up i dont know

[pliant ruin]

something something permafrost

[mighty zenith]

an ice weapon

[limpid saddle]

[mighty zenith]

exhumed into ice + brimstone

because awesome

[pliant ruin]

perma cal lore

permadad lore

[limpid saddle]

ok thats a little bit real

Actually

What do you guys think Yharon & Calamitas' dynamic was like?

[wheat fjord]

Lwokey bro if u wanna know if there's been a calamity update just summon the desert scourege

That mf gets a new sprite every week

[limpid saddle]

cause we see neither hide nor hair of them ever interacting

[dusk laurel]

no

[mighty zenith]

barely ever interacted

i imagine

[dusk laurel]

DS got a resprite like 8 or more months ago

[mighty zenith]

like
yharon was pretty closed off from the public

[split mortar]

I mean
I think its justified this time around

[indigo glade]

Remove Flarefrost Blade from Exoblade recipe. Use it for an exhume instead.

[dusk laurel]

also this resprite is just better in every way

[limpid saddle]

I dont see the vision

I like our current worm

[dusk laurel]

i dont like current ds

[split mortar]

Despite that i imagine it was not great
Since yharim and yharon are beat buds

[limpid saddle]

but new one is very good pixel art i wont diss it for that

[wheat fjord]

It's a really nice respite, although I don't understand why it's blue

[dusk laurel]

its a spike monster thats closer to a sand worm

[dusk laurel]

sea serpent

[limpid saddle]

look at old sprite

[dusk laurel]

it is not native to the desert

[wheat fjord]

Okay but it's adapted and dried up

[dusk laurel]

that

[pliant ruin]

its not dried up

[dusk laurel]

does not explain why it cant be blue

[pliant ruin]

its adapted

[dusk laurel]

yeah

[pliant ruin]

not evolved

[split mortar]

The concept artist didnt want it in so calamity had to pull it

[pliant ruin]

its the same animal

[dusk laurel]

it got sand armor, not new scales

[pliant ruin]

does a deer suddenly turn Yellow when it enters a desert

[indigo glade]

It being dry doesn't magically lose the colour.

[pliant ruin]

throw a lion at a snowy biome will it turn White

[wheat fjord]

Okay but it should be covered in sand

Like a sandy worm

[dusk laurel]

yeah

[mighty zenith]

it will be

[dusk laurel]

it wil;l be

[indigo glade]

And it was.

[split mortar]

Thats what it is

In the art

[wheat fjord]

Oh

[pliant ruin]

yeah which is why it has sand armor

[wheat fjord]

Epic

[dusk laurel]

and no its not a worm

[mighty zenith]

what it WONT be is completely brown and dry like a raisin

[pliant ruin]

its a sea aserpent

[wheat fjord]

It a worm

[pliant ruin]

its a reptile

[wheat fjord]

It a worm

[dusk laurel]

i will fry you if you say that one more time

[mighty zenith]

your mother is a worm

[wheat fjord]

It a worm

My mother is actually a frog

[indigo glade]

Can we mute this user for spamming?

[mighty zenith]

shes a worm now

[wheat fjord]

Bro what

[limpid saddle]

Calm down mfs

[dusk laurel]

wormdort

[pliant ruin]

[limpid saddle]

goddamn

[mighty zenith]

i agree oomph

[limpid saddle]

repworm problem solved

[pliant ruin]

i dont wana deal with this goodbye

[limpid saddle]

freaky evil worm

[dusk laurel]

the horrors

peak idea

[wheat fjord]

Some people in this server are honestly laughable lmao.

Like if I say something like "wait if so and so fought" 10 people come in and say "NOOO it's not realistic!!!! They live nowhere close to eachother!

what if

[limpid saddle]

to be fair

you say some real stupid shit sometimes

[split mortar]

Everyone does

[wheat fjord]

You can't call someone stupid for not knowing the lore that changes every 2 minutes

Especially when in the game its different

[mighty zenith]

its been 2 years dude

[indigo glade]

The lore has not changed for the past two years.

[split mortar]

New lore has been out for like 2 years

[wheat fjord]

I never read the dev notes 😔

[limpid saddle]

like 'what if all the current dragon lore wasnt real actually & we're just being gaslit actually'

[mighty zenith]

i dont see how thats our problem

[wheat fjord]

Bro that's a 1 timer

[mighty zenith]

also
im pretty sure we've just been explaining it to you

every time you asked

[wheat fjord]

Also I was saying it as a example.

[wheat fjord]

Yeah and thanks it's been really helpful

Yoy guys have really opened me to what is Canon and what isn't

[pliant ruin]

i suddenly feel emotionally exhausted for no reason

so imma go watch some videos or smth

[mighty zenith]

happens

[dusk laurel]

yeah

[wheat fjord]

Low-key sorry for the mini crash out it's just annoying when someone says to mute me for calling a serpent a worm

[split mortar]

Aight bye
Have fun

[limpid saddle]

that was me i cast a curse on you sorry

[dusk laurel]

what...

[pliant ruin]

i think it was more so you were being kinda obnoxious abt it

[wheat fjord]

People care too much about specificsn

[mighty zenith]

i mean
we're in the lore channel

[split mortar]

-# i thought people were messing around and not being genuine there

[mighty zenith]

we're all about specifics

[wheat fjord]

Dang

Wait

[pliant ruin]

i mean yeah we're in the lore chat people will be specific about lore

[wheat fjord]

Does thus make

Every worm boss

A serpent

[pliant ruin]

no

[indigo glade]

Oh, so it is annoying when someone tells you to get muted, but not when you repeatedly say an unfunny joke?

[wheat fjord]

Except

[indigo glade]

I see.

[wheat fjord]

Eow

[mighty zenith]

yeah Eater is definitely a worm

[pliant ruin]

desert scourge and aquatic scourge specifically r reptiles

[mighty zenith]

idk what else it could be

[pliant ruin]

well i doubt EoW is any actual biological classification

[wheat fjord]

I called something a worm bro give over

[split mortar]

DoG is uh
Not comparable to anything on the planet

[pliant ruin]

but you could absolutely call it a worm

[brazen coral]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1112873622562947104/1319789853550055424/petpet.gif

[split mortar]

YOOO rare prikki lore chat

[mighty zenith]

hello prikki user

[wheat fjord]

The new sprites coming are really cool tho

[brazen coral]

https://media1.tenor.com/m/HSAV_MjI5ykAAAAd/tegu-pet.gif

[split mortar]

Yeah they are

[dusk laurel]

hello prikki

pet the lizard

[indigo glade]

Bring in the salami lizard.

[brazen coral]

https://tenor.com/view/salami-salamander-lumerian-gif-25839987

[dusk laurel]

beloved

flesh lizard

[indigo glade]

This is how people make salami. Is your salami worth it?

[wheat fjord]

No

He's a goofy guy

[limpid saddle]

this is why im pescitarian

[dusk laurel]

why so pesky

[dusk laurel]

well

the current doesnt reflect the lore much at all

and also it got pulled from the mod

[pliant ruin]

for valid reasons

[dusk laurel]

yep

[pliant ruin]

but uhh

now that i think abt it

desert scourge and aquatic scourge are the only two worm bosses you can reasonably assign to a real classification

[wheat fjord]

Desert scourege is my favourite boss for the soul reason that u can't multi hit its segments (I think)

Correct me if I'm wrong

[limpid saddle]

what if everything in the distortion is a lizard

[pliant ruin]

all the others r either unnatural (mechs, divine essence monsters) or uncomparable to earth biology (aliens, distortion creatures)

[wheat fjord]

But it acts as 1 whole

[indigo glade]

You're wrong.

[spare pier]

You can multi hit

[wheat fjord]

Dang

Welp

[dusk laurel]

thatd be boring because the distortion is actually a big place

[wheat fjord]

Looks like ceaseless void is my new favourite

[dusk laurel]

i dont want to see a lizard for the entire sub world

go my lizard

[mighty zenith]

what if the distortion is just rain world

[wheat fjord]

What if the distortion is just the pokemon distortion

Noxus is giritina

Trust

[limpid saddle]

giratina is noxus confirmed

origin forme is his phase 2

Volo's probably there too

[wheat fjord]

We rock in there and we challenge him to a pokemon battle

[limpid saddle]

He's signus actually

[wheat fjord]

We put noxus in a terra ball

[limpid saddle]

it all makes sense

[pliant ruin]

dog when the real distortion deity walks in

(its giratina

(devourer gets obliterated instantly

[wheat fjord]

I'm about to do a thorim+ calamity infernum run. Hopefully the ass beatings won't be lore accurate

[dusk laurel]

peak writing

dog didnt know what hit it

[wheat fjord]

Wait

[pliant ruin]

i miss my wife

[wheat fjord]

Isn't giritina technically a god in pokemon

[pliant ruin]

yes

[limpid saddle]

you could say

Giratina was

The

Big boss

[split mortar]

Yeah
Concept of antimatter iirc

[cloud ibex]

if the ass beatings are lore accurate you'll beat every boss first try technically

[pliant ruin]

is that a metal gear reference

[wheat fjord]

Wait shi he's right

[indigo glade]

Concept of We Are Never Getting Told.

[wheat fjord]

I'm gonna go true melee just cus u said that

[mighty zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-solid-snake-big-boss-gif-12248663

[split mortar]

-# gravity cool

[limpid saddle]

me when you cant even say my name

[dusk laurel]

pensive