lore-discussion

[snow orbit]

Draedon has the best model currently you cant change my mind

[spare pier]

Addressing the giant worm in the room

[dusk laurel]

[snow mountain]

but its so boring

[young socket]

aquatic scourge?

[spare pier]

I have absolutely no problems with DoG because he's just cool as shit

I like his design

He's awesome

[snow orbit]

Eater of worlds?

[snow mountain]

but its so boring...

[tepid timber]

Dog is cool but he could be bigger

[snow orbit]

I have some news for you buddy

You might want to sit down for this

[snow mountain]

😬

[tepid timber]

I can’t

Making tea

[snow orbit]

Make the tea sitting

[young socket]

u wouldnt BELIEVE wat theyre doing to dog in the future

[tepid timber]

I know about the resprite

It needs to be bigger

[snow mountain]

not like it innovates on the concept

[snow orbit]

Redesign gonna be less boring cause the armor slaps on

[spare pier]

Fucked up

[snow mountain]

but its still so boring

theres so much space there

[snow orbit]

DoG 50% bigger addon coming soon.

[pulsar ocean]

what if yharim wasnt a player model with a different skin but like a whole png of him full sized

[pliant ruin]

I am indifferent to DoG's design

[young socket]

he wont be player sized

hes like

[pliant ruin]

my faovirte worm is like

[young socket]

9 foot nearly

[pliant ruin]

the scourges

[snow mountain]

i can build a house and live on the sprite

[spare pier]

Byeah like, DoG is just cool and I think that's everything he needs

[pliant ruin]

i like that they're more natural and organic

[tepid timber]

He better be full sized

[young socket]

his armour practically makes him 9 foot

[dusk laurel]

So real for that

[snow orbit]

dog design is so bad i could die!
dog design is so good i could die!
I am indifferent.

[young socket]

thats nearly double the size of a bald terrarian

[split mortar]

He is like 4 blocks tall

[spare pier]

Evil Rebecca mind controlling the lore writers to make Scourges into Offshoots because she played Genshin

[young socket]

more like 5 and a half

[spare pier]

(Half real story)

[pliant ruin]

kills rebecca

[manic coral]

No

[tepid timber]

Or maybe the player is a manlet and yharim is like 8 blocks tall

[pliant ruin]

leave them ALONE.

[dusk laurel]

I could boil you.

[snow orbit]

kills everyone

[spare pier]

Tundra the joke is that I'm not gonna do that

[split mortar]

He is little abive 8 foot tall
A block is 2 foot

[manic coral]

i know

but im still saying it

[snow orbit]

You're really good at these joke things

[spare pier]

Fair

[pliant ruin]

I love the entire ecology around Scourges its so fun

[spare pier]

I'm still baffled that there is just

[pulsar ocean]

resprite aquatic sqourge into the garg leviathan full sized

[pliant ruin]

obsidian scourge

[spare pier]

A giant desert serpent who is just really good at adapting to new environments in Genshin

[snow orbit]

Let us watch scourges eat

[young socket]

i like the idea of people calling vicious and aquatic long stuff scourges

and then

theres aquatic scourge whos very peaceful

[pliant ruin]

aquatic scourge

[snow mountain]

petrichor wyrm ecology goes crazy

[pliant ruin]

its just a whale

[snow orbit]

Long whale

[pliant ruin]

i hope new aquatic scourge is like

less long

more thick

[spare pier]

Long whale store

[pliant ruin]

fat guy

[snow orbit]

Im going to eat pizza

[pliant ruin]

itd be cool

[snow orbit]

Like a ball perhaps

[young socket]

he isnt part of the club but he still got invited to the party

[dusk laurel]

Yes he is

[pliant ruin]

I actually like to imagine

[young socket]

no he isnt

[dusk laurel]

All Scourges are created equally

[snow orbit]

Guys crimson scourge when

[young socket]

sunken and desert are VICIOUS

VILE

CREATURES

and then theres aquatic scourge

[dusk laurel]

I will flay you

[pliant ruin]

"scourge" is not actually a name that was usen by the common folk and is given by the terrarian

and their actual "common name" was smth like

[pulsar ocean]

big worm

[tepid timber]

Jort

[pulsar ocean]

and big worm 2

[snow orbit]

Bork

[dusk laurel]

👎

[spare pier]

Counterpoint, they are good names

[young socket]

i disagree

[spare pier]

The Terrarian wouldn't make them

[young socket]

TRUE

[pliant ruin]

you have a good point

[snow orbit]

How long are these common names

[pulsar ocean]

miracle matter

[young socket]

skeletron PRIME

[pliant ruin]

ok tbf desert scourge

[snow mountain]

this guy wants to copy xipe totec's niche, tear their heart out and throw it into the lakebed

[snow orbit]

warframe reference

[spare pier]

It's a miracle that you gave it a good name

[pliant ruin]

is unlikely to be the actual common name for the species

because i mean

[tepid timber]

Like optimus

[pliant ruin]

its not a native desert species

i like to think they were called like

[young socket]

sunken scourge...

PRIME!

[dusk laurel]

Death

[pliant ruin]

Illmeran Great Serpent for DS's species

[dusk laurel]

by a thousand cuts

[pliant ruin]

Sunken Scourge could be like

Illmeran Wolf Serpent... bc they hunt in packs like wolves....

[young socket]

wow this great serpent is quite ill

[snow orbit]

Hear me out hieroglyphs were on a wall and they looked like desert scourge and aquatic scourge

[pliant ruin]

As for the Aquatic's Scourges species thats actually a tricky one because

[tepid timber]

Why is there no option to pet aquatic scourge instead of fighting it?

[snow orbit]

Who is meran and why is he ill

[pliant ruin]

i cant recall if Aqua scoog is a single individual of a greater oceanic species that lives in the sulphur sea or if it's like, a entire species that lives there specifically

[snow mountain]

too many worm bosses ,, i am dying of tropical diseases

[young socket]

entire species but only one lives in this specific area iirc

[dusk laurel]

Yeah

that sounds about right

[pliant ruin]

in that case i feel like Great Acid Serpent would make sense or smth

Sulphuric Great Serpent idk

i like coming up with names for things like this its fun

[snow mountain]

that is a terrible name

[young socket]

this breaks the rules of language

[spare pier]

I actually came up with DS's species name a while back and I am sorry to tell you that

[young socket]

size is one of the first descriptors u say

[spare pier]

They are actually called Scourges

[snow mountain]

noodle

[pliant ruin]

there's rules to language?

[young socket]

great sulphuric serpent

[young socket]

more like

[pliant ruin]

tell me this instant

[young socket]

subconcious stuff

[pliant ruin]

this

[spare pier]

No it's actually a rule

[pliant ruin]

tell me

immediately

i need to know all of the scoogean lore

[pulsar ocean]

i propose a new name for the desert sqourge
Craig

[young socket]

great sulphuric serpent sounds better than sulphuric great serpent

[spare pier]

Colossal Ilmeran Scourge

[dusk laurel]

👎

[pliant ruin]

Okay yeha that's a good one

[dusk laurel]

cis

[spare pier]

Fucked up

[young socket]

WOKE?!

[pliant ruin]

woke

[young socket]

guys

calamity got woke,,,

[pulsar ocean]

is calamitas woke

[young socket]

we have to pack up and leave now

[snow mountain]

do you know what else is colossal?? the the

[pliant ruin]

wokelamity

[tepid timber]

Yes

[young socket]

ye shes aroace

so woke

[snow mountain]

ghghghgg

[young socket]

not wanting to date me is so woke for calamitas to do

wait dating me would also be woke

[tepid timber]

Woke mind virus is what caused the gods to attempt to cast yharim into lava

[pulsar ocean]

brimstone elemental destroyed the hell minecraft civilization because the people got woke 😨

[tepid timber]

She’s actually the red pill elemental

[shut tide]

she destroyed the parkour civilization

[pulsar ocean]

is this the plot of the 3rd movie

what if yharim is evbo

[snow orbit]

welcome to calamity lore discussion channel where everyone asks if calamitas would like skibidi toilet and parkour civilization

[tepid timber]

She definitely would

[spring helm]

would calamitas jump for the beef

[snow mountain]

no

[pulsar ocean]

shes the person to go for the beef

[tepid timber]

Would she do it for the vine?

[snow orbit]

she would jump for the beef

[spring helm]

this is how Yharim got her to commit genocide

[pulsar ocean]

draedon is the person to go for the chicken

[tepid timber]

She has my respect

Not for the genocide

But doing it for the vine

[spring helm]

lol

[snow orbit]

would calamitas change the rules of parkour civilization after getting to the top?

[pulsar ocean]

every block is on fire

lava is everywhere

[tepid timber]

Yes

[pulsar ocean]

everywhere is brimstone crag

[tepid timber]

Could calamitas beat the old man in the wheelchair from happy wheels?

I think not personally

[snow orbit]

yes

[snow orbit]

would calamitas strap a child to the back of a bike and do a wheelie across a line of bottles?

[tepid timber]

Yeah

She would go like “ahhh my leg”

“Eugh”

“Oh no “

[snow orbit]

peak writing

[light linden]

[wheat walrus]

melone

[knotty pewter]

curse of true

[frozen zodiac]

this genuinely still bothers me a bit, the social ladder and stuff was such a big part of the plot and then evbo just didnt do shit to change it like at all? changed like 1 or 2 very small things and just pissed off from reality

[oak jetty]

Are we allowed to date Calamitas?

[dusk laurel]

No.

[oak jetty]

[mighty zenith]

shes not interested 👍

[oak jetty]

Sad human noises

[pliant ruin]

Canonically aroace moment

[frozen zodiac]

i swear there was a message here that said provi and the 3 guardians are in a polyamorous relationship

[magic epoch]

i think it's more of a
"I really want this to happen... but would it make sense"

[eager bluff]

oh yeah ive been saying for a long time that provi and the guards are a polycule

[robust osprey]

awesome lesbian polycule

[frozen zodiac]

evil and intimidating ceaseless void:

[long sand]

im reading the beasitary enteries and ngl

scals brothers are kinda peak siblings

[robust osprey]

true!

[long sand]

imagine being such gigachads that not even dying stops you from protecting your sister

[frozen zodiac]

i hope when cal gets a rewrite to her fight dialogue we get some more info on her brothers

[cosmic zenith]

Not from the fight
Maybe from her NPC dialogue...

[frozen zodiac]

if the line when she summons them during a rematch is still canon by then damn thats really sad their spirits arent even in there anymore

or maybe if you look at it differently maybe even in their state they still have the strength to try to protect her even when they're gone

[cosmic zenith]

I personally do think their spirits are still there

Since they have independent agency

[light linden]

hey stip do you have time for a question?

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah

[light linden]

have you ever tried to make a dragon that explicitly looks alien?

don't gotta be specific about which one

[cosmic zenith]

Not yet

[long sand]

maybe make it like draedon and the codebreaker where you can get dialouge options and make it related to scal

[cosmic zenith]

I've only actively worked on designing Vetrasyl, and a few Dragons for Cascade

[light linden]

fair enough

[late veldt]

should he have installed parkour Communism instead?

[cosmic zenith]

The most outlandish Dragon I've gone through design ideas for was the Dragon of Dreams

[light linden]

that's just bowser

[cosmic zenith]

[light linden]

have you played mario and luigi dream team?

[late veldt]

but what about the dragon of deez

[light linden]

before I continue

[long sand]

other than zeratos who was the strongest dragon

[cosmic zenith]

I haven't

[cosmic zenith]

Nomon sweeps

[light linden]

ok so basically

[magic epoch]

...so

Imagine Dragons?

[cosmic zenith]

Zeratros was the strongest Dragon

[magic epoch]

other than zeratros

[indigo glade]

Yharon.

[cosmic zenith]

If you mean second strongest, Yharon

[long sand]

like outside of zeratos

[light linden]

bowser literally inhaled the fragments of a stone that grants anyone's wishes based on their dreams

and became an actual omnipotent god

[cosmic zenith]

Damn

Dragon of Dreams would be so peak to design

[light linden]

the only reason

and I mean the only reason he lost is because he wasn't creative enough

[late veldt]

how strong was Zeratros anyway? scal? Yharim?

[cosmic zenith]

Especially with the more mythical approach I've internalized since

[cosmic zenith]

Around Yharim

[long sand]

i've always wondered why xeroc knew that consuming zeratos soul would work like you expect something like that to be just a myth or mystery at the time

[light linden]

he became an omnipotent god and instead of just making mario and luigi turn into vapor he kept tryna punch, breathe fire at, and send his minions after the mario bros

they looked cool though

[late veldt]

i thought you were talking about Xeroc

[light linden]

no

[magic epoch]

they are

[late veldt]

Xeroc vs the Mario Brothers who wins

[light linden]

xeroc

[magic epoch]

Mario bros

it's not close

[light linden]

no no

Xeroc can beat them literally by flying high enough above them

[magic epoch]

you think that stops them???

[long sand]

xerocs honest reaction when they pick up a weird cape on the ground

[tepid timber]

Xeroc when Luigi pulls out his vacuum

[light linden]

actually wait lemme put it this way

in turn based combat the mario bros have a chance

if it isn't Xeroc will vaporize them

[tepid timber]

Nah

Star power mogs him

[spring helm]

so

doing the math

post-ascension Xeroc must have been at least twice as strong as Yharim

factor in 800 years of training, we can then estimate that Xeroc is currently as strong as 3 Yharim's

perhaps 4

[long sand]

i dont think xeroc trained much

post ascension

[cloud ibex]

no they did

that's the whole reason they managed to get as powerful as they are now

they've been training to get stronger ever since they ascended

[young socket]

if they didnt train thatd like

ruin the whole thing about them not doing the same thing as the dragons

[spring helm]

bit more serious analysis, but still mostly shitposting,

if we take Yharim's growth over his Crusade as a benchmark of how much stronger one grows over a century of training, then Xeroc could be at least 10 Yharims strong

[patent tiger]

GUYS

is torch god canon

[light linden]

no

[patent tiger]

how do we know

m pretty sure torch god is canon

[light linden]

devs said so

[patent tiger]

hmmmmmmm

cap

[cosmic zenith]

Torch God is canon, just not necessarily a God

It's just a mysterious entity

[tepid timber]

Torch god is a fish inside of torch shaped mech (the fire is actually a fish bowl)

[patent tiger]

what if torch god is providence' alter ego and she has ocd so she really wants torches to be placed nicely

[cosmic zenith]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[patent tiger]

that's my new headcanon

[late veldt]

Torch god is Xeroc fucking around

[normal leaf]

xeroc was the one flickering with the lights at the krusty krab

https://tenor.com/view/click-nosferatu-spongebob-squarepants-gif-24388257

[hoary cape]

Skill issue

[split mortar]

Thats more likely since xeroc has been said to be damn near close to one shotting yharim iirc

[sinful adder]

I think I remember someone saying that 40 yharims with perfect teamwork might be able to beat xeroc

[split mortar]

Yeah

Cei

[pastel gazelle]

Gel is probably sweet. It's described as "both tasty and flammable", and it would make sense if it was sugar-rich. I guess it could be more fatty than sugary since both are different forms of energy storage but it somehow makes sense to me that it'd be sugary.

[sleek halo]

i feel like that’d be a bit too much

very differing opinions on that afaik

also basing how quickly someone can get strong off another person seems

eh

our best estimation for how strong Yharim got since he started training again is based off the exo mechs and where he is now loodely

and we don’t know if the exo mechs are based off him before or after draedon upgraded his armor

[blazing kettle]

What’s the Strongest Calamity Character that isn’t a God? Is it Yharim?

[split mortar]

Fair points
-# if anything xeroc should grow quicker i think?
But yeah def not 10x since thats def in oneshotting range

[split mortar]

Noxus or fovos

[sleek halo]

Noxus/Fovos

[limpid saddle]

Noxus

[sleek halo]

Alive

is Noxus

[blazing kettle]

I thought they were gods?

[sleek halo]

in the past

[limpid saddle]

Nope

[sleek halo]

though I probably wouldn’t call them

a mortal either

[limpid saddle]

Noxus in current lore is just an omnious figure presiding over the Distortion

[sleek halo]

they’re not gods but

probably immortal in terms of aging

[split mortar]

Nope
Fovos got sealed before gods were a thing
Noxus has not had a auric soul to ascend with afaik

[limpid saddle]

It's like if a black hole was a person

But the person was a fold in space

[blazing kettle]

The distortion is that thing from Devourer of gods right?

[split mortar]

Dog doesnt make the distortion

Its a place dog is from

[limpid saddle]

It's a place yeah, all DoG & DoG related bosses are from it

[split mortar]

But its not dogs place

[limpid saddle]

He can just tunnel between the regular world & the distortion

[sleek halo]

DoG only claims that he made Ceaseless Void (which he did not)

[blazing kettle]

Is ceaseless void a black hole or a portal

[sleek halo]

which is just a portal to the Distortion sealed

[split mortar]

Portal

[limpid saddle]

A portal

[split mortar]

The odd thing about it is that well

It doesnt cease, its permanent unlike anything else signus or dog can make

[sleek halo]

maybe

maybe not

Xeroc could’ve absolutely had a worse training technique than Yharim

[limpid saddle]

Imagine if in the DoG re-write he gets a big dialouge listing his achievements & all but like 3 of them are utter bullshit but the 3 that are real are massive lore drops with great consequence to the story

[sleek halo]

or will to train even

[split mortar]

Lmao

[blazing kettle]

Is training like dragon ball in calamity?

[sleek halo]

but I do think in no circumstance could Yharim currently beat Xeroc

[sleek halo]

i mean

[limpid saddle]

Not really

[sleek halo]

it’s just training

[limpid saddle]

Training is training

[sleek halo]

how they train exactly can vary

[blazing kettle]

Yuh but usually there’s an upper limit to your power

[limpid saddle]

If you train your abilities you inherently get better at them

[sleek halo]

yeah

Afaik Xeroc is probably near his

Yharim seemingly isn’t

just due to his recent growth in such a short time

[blazing kettle]

What recent growth?

[sleek halo]

though Yharim would absolutely not reach the peaks Xeroc could

[blazing kettle]

We never saw his power I think

[split mortar]

Yharim was equal to exo mechs at some point

Now he is

Post jared

[blazing kettle]

Who’s jared

[sleek halo]

Primordial Wyrm

[split mortar]

Teleport in the abyss to find out

[blazing kettle]

The jumpscare thing in abyss?

[sleek halo]

yeah

big fella

[blazing kettle]

Lol

[sleek halo]

he is an offshoot of the Auric Dragons

blessed by Silva

[blazing kettle]

I should defeat that guy

[sleek halo]

the Goddess of Life

[split mortar]

Oldest one iirc

[sleek halo]

maybe

maybe not

he sure is strong though

[split mortar]

Literally second strongest dragon ever, including auric ones

[blazing kettle]

I love jumpscaring my friends with him

[sleek halo]

yeah lol

[blazing kettle]

How strong is yharon for a dragon?

[split mortar]

Second strongest auric dragon

[sleek halo]

the third strongest ever afaik

it goes

[split mortar]

A normal eidolon wyrm is equal to average auric dragon

[sleek halo]

Zeratros
Primordial Wyrm
Yharon

[blazing kettle]

Who’s Zeratros

[split mortar]

Dragon king

[sleek halo]

Super dead

mega dead

[split mortar]

Dragon of primordial light

Dragon xeroc absorbed

[sleek halo]

he is the dragon Xeroc ascended from

[split mortar]

Pfft

[split mortar]

Snail

[sleek halo]

It’s heavily implied

That Xeroc was attuned to Zeratros

[sleek halo]

like Yharim is with Yharon

[split mortar]

Auric face mask

I think

[blazing kettle]

One can ascend by just being attuned with a dragon?

[split mortar]

No

[sleek halo]

no you must

use a ritual

[split mortar]

They ascended while attuned

[sleek halo]

Xeroc had a perfect ascension

[blazing kettle]

Yharim hasn’t ascended right?

[split mortar]

Correct

Yharim is just attuned

[spring helm]

going back on how much stronger Xeroc got from training

perhaps i overestimated it

[split mortar]

Id say
7x stronger then yharim?
Near oneshot but not oneshotting them

[limpid saddle]

I disagree with that sentiment simply because it's boring

[spring helm]

he does say during boss rush

Whose power may match the only mortal who has ever made me doubt my own...
which can be taken to mean that Yharim grew abnormally fast in strength compared to anyone else Xeroc has ever seen, so much so that it actually surprises them

[limpid saddle]

I think if they were to fight Yharim would undoubtably lose

But it's a fight y'know?

Xeroc isn't playing around & Yharim definetly isn't

This is mostly so I can better imagine battle AMV's between the two that I will never make

[spring helm]

real asf

[spring helm]

i wonder if this line will get moved to being post-Yharim when that happens

[mighty zenith]

maybe

[split mortar]

I get that
But uh
Yharim gives a good fight to noxus
Noxus loses to prime fovos
Prime fovos gets shit stomped by xeroc

But fair enough

We dunno how much fovos beats noxus tho

[snow mountain]

boring

powerscaling sucks

[mighty zenith]

its tru

but fr i do actually agree with GGG
having xeroc comment on yharim impressing them and for him to still be miles off from even damaging xeroc would be really weird

especially since we're gonna be on a similar level of strength to yharim when we fight xeroc

[split mortar]

I dont think a 7x means you’re immune tk damage from the other party

[mighty zenith]

sure but
yharim being a oneshot?

i dont buy that

[split mortar]

Thats why i said 7x

Cause 8x is oneshot

[snow mountain]

this powerscaling sucks

[spring helm]

yeah i don't think we're getting much stronger than Yharim level

[snow mountain]

its dampens lore

[spring helm]

unless noxus drops some crazy fucking loot

[snow mountain]

i get you people want to rationalise it but its lore man

[mighty zenith]

noxus spray...

[spring helm]

do not

oh yeah did that get like

deleted

in the new WotG update

since noxus isn't a thing there anymore

or did it just get renamed

[mighty zenith]

idk

havent played it yet

[spring helm]

fair enough

[sleek halo]

yeah that’s why I think

Yharim would give Xeroc

a good fight

He would not win

but it wouldn’t be easy

if you have to try

then something isn’t easy

[sleek halo]

i think it’s perfectly acceptable

regardless

it’s not like it’s going to be stated in the gsme

[split mortar]

-# its been said by yharim that xeroc would fuck up jared easily iirc

[sleek halo]

“I, Xeroc, am actually 1000 times stronger than a green slime 😼”

[split mortar]

Pfffft

[sleek halo]

“And yet, despite its immense power, it never would have stood a chance.”

That is what the bestiary says

about the primordial wyrm and xeroc

which yeah i mean

jared would get his shit rocked

doesn’t mean jared would get easily beaten just

he would never ever win

[blazing kettle]

Does jared have intelligence

[split mortar]

Id imagine its sapient

It holds grudges against anyone using primordial light

Because of xeroc i think

[spring helm]

animals can hold grudges

[limpid saddle]

I mean yeah crows exist

[split mortar]

Arent they like
Sapient or damn near sapient

[blazing kettle]

Idk, i don’t think crows can compare to human intelligence but they still smart

[mighty zenith]

yeah its not like theyre dumb

dragons just lack the ability to speak

especially considering, well

yharon

[blazing kettle]

I thought yharon can speak

[mighty zenith]

no, just telepathically communicates

seemingly only with yharim

probably due to their connection

[spring helm]

because Yharon hates everyone else

old ass boomer

[cloud ibex]

maybe but i'd honestly rather like to imagine he can speak to other people, but he refuses to since Yharim is the only person in existence he trusts

[mighty zenith]

thats fair

[clear girder]

What is cal talking about in her theme

[mighty zenith]

yapping

[scenic olive]

i think yharim would lose fr

Xeroc making Yharim construct from Light to fight the real Yharim

[long sand]

its old lore stuff

[manic coral]

not even, jsut speak HUMAN language

they had their own

which, uh, isn't really used anymore obviously

[mighty zenith]

funny

[cloud ibex]

Human Monk walks into Aerie restaurant and orders food in perfect Dragontongue

[latent bolt]

is the language of the dragons considered a dead language to most people

[cloud ibex]

i mean

who's even left to speak it

Yharon's still alive but i feel like he'd probably use english (or whatever you'd call it in-universe) to speak with Yharim to make communication easier

[manic coral]

i mena. how would they speak it, really?

dragon vocal chords not not like huamn ones

[latent bolt]

true

[manic coral]

like Yharon COULD speak what whatever language is used i guess, but

it'd, due to vocal chord differences

be horrifically butchered

[cloud ibex]

that is a good point actually

[manic coral]

and half unintelligable

[latent bolt]

could pre-ascension xeroc speak the language too

[cloud ibex]

even if Yharon tried to teach Yharim the language he'd struggle cause he simply isn't built for it

[manic coral]

i mean they could for SURE understand it

and while not SPEAK it obviously becuase

again

vocla chord differences

that goes both ways

[latent bolt]

yeah

[manic coral]

they could probably mimic it well enough to get the message they want to across

[spring helm]

mimic?

my name is edw-

[amber cedar]

i made the mimic

[cloud ibex]

in a mostly unrelated writing project thing i have i created a species of basically snake people on another planet who have their own languages

[split mortar]

Kills you both

[dusk laurel]

it was difficult to put the pieces together

mrrrp

[split mortar]

Stabs you

[dusk laurel]

[tall delta]

not xeroc, not not xeroc

[cloud ibex]

one of the members of the species is used to living with humans, but she truncated her name and refers to herself as simply Zoey because she got tired of humans trying and failing to figure out how the hell you pronounce Zoo'hwei'ya

i think that's an interesting aspect of worldbuilding, how languages of completely different species would be entirely impossible for each other to pronounce because of different vocal chords

[snow mountain]

ruh roh rharim

[pulsar ocean]

but hes singing roar of the jungle dragon

in perfect english

[manic coral]

i genuinely can't tell if you're making a joke or not

[pulsar ocean]

if jared is a dragon does he have an auric soul

[split mortar]

No

They dont

[pulsar ocean]

why not

i thought all old dragons had one

[split mortar]

You arent born with a auric soul

And by the time jared was born

There was none left to be given

[split mortar]

Old duke isnt a auric dragon

[pulsar ocean]

he aint that old

[split mortar]

Jared and old duke are both direct descendents of a auric dragon

[pulsar ocean]

did jared get all the good genes

[split mortar]

Possibly?
We dunno any other wyrms as old as jared so cant really compare

[real silo]

All auric dragons

jared and mold man duke are not auric dragons

[sleek halo]

tbf… they can’t be as old

brother is the first eidolon wyrm

[spare pier]

Isn't the Primordial Wyrm literally said to be the first wyrm? Yeah

I know Yharim isn't the best source of information but you can trust him on knowing draconic history

[real silo]

You're the first wyrm

[spare pier]

[sleek halo]

i mean he probably meant relatively as old, a century doesn’t mean much

[spare pier]

To be fair draconic life cycle is long

I'm debating if it's fine to say how old a Dragon can be because like

Ok you can probably guess considering you know Fishrons have existed for around 4 thousand years

And Old Duke is, well

Old

[split mortar]

We know the fishrons age?

[spare pier]

I remember Stip said it before

[split mortar]

O ok

[sleek halo]

i personally think

jared will live far longer

due to his blessing by Silva

or wiell

would’ve

would’ve lived far longer

[spare pier]

Well, yeah

I mean normal Dragons

[sleek halo]

i imagine eidolon’s naturally

live very long

Dragonfollies seem like they’d have

a. far shorter life spn

and younger duke fishron as well

[split mortar]

I can see follies barely pushing past 200 years

[pulsar ocean]

is silva dead yet

by the time

we arrive

[split mortar]

She cant die

Because there is nature

[pulsar ocean]

what if i kill every tree

[split mortar]

She is the closest she can get to death, but until literally all life is dead, she will live

[spare pier]

Yeah if you kill everyone and salt the planet then she'd die

[pulsar ocean]

thats a fair tradeoff

[split mortar]

Would the other elementals count for living things that keep her alive

[snow mountain]

i wouldn't call such things alive

[split mortar]

They have souls

You get soul if alive

[pulsar ocean]

what if xeroc kamehameha's the planet and everyone dies cuz xeroc is an almighty god
diety if you will

[snow mountain]

diet

[split mortar]

Xeroc would also need to die probably

-# and is also like, not even continent level

[snow mountain]

can't be too hard, dude is shite at stonemasonry

[snow mountain]

POWERSCALING DETECTED;

[pulsar ocean]

what if he spams his strongest attack that destroys a continent

[split mortar]

Would take a while but maybe
-# if such an attack exists for them

[pulsar ocean]

is prime fovos planetary level

full power

still has legs

[snow mountain]

oh my god i am going to kill myself if i hear anything related to powerscaling

john terraria has one terrarillion power idk

[split mortar]

Weaker then xeroc so no

[tall delta]

did you know youre not even wall level

[pulsar ocean]

goku one taps calamitas and yharim

[split mortar]

Correct

[snow mountain]

😔

[robust osprey]

yamcha vs xeroc

yamcha wins

[split mortar]

Yes

[cloud ibex]

i'm pretty sure 90% of "[dragon ball character] vs [calamity character]" matchups end with the dragon ball character winning

[clear girder]

what is the lore behind signus

[mighty zenith]

im pretty sure chichi solos all of calamity honestly

which is like

so stupid

and why i dont like powerscaling

[cloud ibex]

faustian rat bastard from the distortion

[mighty zenith]

good way to put it

[pliant ruin]

he lives in the distortions and makes deals/bargains with people

[cloud ibex]

not actually below Noxus in the hierarchy, or at least not particularly far below

[pliant ruin]

also he's awesome and cool and the best character associated with the distortion

[mighty zenith]

coldsteel the envoy

he's so cool and mysterious and purple

[cloud ibex]

he also can't actually interact with the world directly, he needs someone to be his envoy

[pliant ruin]

what competition does he even have

literal object
animal
mr ego of gods

hes the coolest trust me

[cloud ibex]

when you fight him he's using Statis' body as a vessel of sorts, and in theory if you lost the fight you would become his new envoy

[split mortar]

Was that confirmed?

[pliant ruin]

Not sure if it was outright confirmed but it is an actual idea thats beign discussed at a minimum

[spare pier]

Triangle revealing everything about Signus still explodes me but I already talked to him about it and I don't want to drag him on the mud

[split mortar]

Yeah i know that, just didnt want another incident where people think a floating idea was actually canon

[spare pier]

Just man

[split mortar]

Oh

[spare pier]

At least people like Signus' stuff

[split mortar]

Yays

[spare pier]

Though yeah most of it is still up for conversation. At least Statis being a host was pretty obvious from the concept art already

Oh no why does the guy who made a deal with the shadow monster have shadow limbs?

[split mortar]

Wait what?

Thiught they were robotic limbs

[spare pier]

Wait the second art wasn't posted?

[split mortar]

LMAO

[indigo glade]

It wasn't.

[spare pier]

Well, it doesn't matter now considering what it revealed was already spilled by Triangle anyways

Oh well, again

At least people like it

[late veldt]

Yeah I think y'all tend to fuck up with the art because someone probably triangle said "I wonder why signus and statis wear the same thing in their concept art" and then I go to calamity mod reference and. they don't.

[dusk laurel]

Show.

[spare pier]

No

I didn't make it

[dusk laurel]

💥

[spare pier]

[spare pier]

Again, I already talked with Triangle about the Signus situation and we're past it

I don't mind it

[late veldt]

yeahe

[spare pier]

I just don't like when the lore isn't communicated properly and just

Told to people as ideas

[mighty zenith]

so, that thing with triangle revealing stuff

[indigo glade]

Mega Mammoth Dragon.

[mighty zenith]

[pulsar ocean]

krillin no diffs the calamity verse

[spare pier]

As I said

It doesn't matter by this point

[mighty zenith]

yeah ik

[spare pier]

He already revealed what it revealed

[late veldt]

DBZ character wins fight. grass is green.

[pulsar ocean]

does bulma solo cal verse

[robust osprey]

she can be draedon 2

[mighty zenith]

bulma without any tech no

bulma WITH tech yeah absolutely

[indigo glade]

I solo Calamity.

[mighty zenith]

solo deez

[indigo glade]

I also solo Nomon.

[dusk laurel]

Seeker of Nomon

[spare pier]

I don't mind when Triangle talks about his stuff, that's our general spoiler rule anyways

If you made it, you can just talk about it unless it's major spoilers

[late veldt]

why do dead evil gods love eyes so much

[wheat fjord]

I wonder what the food chain is like.

Although the eater of worlds is a stronger boss, I feel like it would be devoured by the desert scourege

[robust osprey]

how could they see if they didn't had eyes

[robust osprey]

I don't think they even interact

[dusk laurel]

1, they don't live in the same biome
2, EoW is stronger than Desert Scourge

[late veldt]

too costly a fight for it to be worth it

[spare pier]

Although this enemy is stronger, I think they'd be devoured by the weaker enemy

[late veldt]

they probably wouldn't fight

[spare pier]

[pliant ruin]

eater of worlds isn't

part of the "ecosystem" either

[dusk laurel]

yeah

[pulsar ocean]

how does dog gain power if all the god essence is going to his boss

[dusk laurel]

that too

[late veldt]

Unless the EoW is just mindless killhunger

[pliant ruin]

its an unnatural being

[robust osprey]

I don't think scourge would kill eow

beacuse

[wheat fjord]

The eater of worlds seems like a glass cannon to me

[robust osprey]

eow would taste like SHIT

[dusk laurel]

it was just always like that

[wheat fjord]

Eow would taste like rotten eggs. But the ds is starving

[spare pier]

My brother in Christ EoW has iirc the highest HP pool in all of PHM

[dusk laurel]

it didn't get stronger aside from some armor

[spare pier]

[pliant ruin]

Desert Scourge is not starving

He's doing finer actually

fine*

[wheat fjord]

Yeah but he splits up

[pliant ruin]

Also yeah like

[spare pier]

Yeah he still has

[pliant ruin]

One lives in the desert

[spare pier]

The highest HP pool

[pliant ruin]

The other one lives in purple rot land

[wheat fjord]

The desert scourge has natural armour while eow is just a flesh worm

[pliant ruin]

I don't think they'd uh

[spare pier]

DS splits it in half? Cool

[pliant ruin]

meet

[spare pier]

There are two now

[dusk laurel]

EoW splitting would be worse for DS

[robust osprey]

worm made by dead god essence

yeah..

[limpid saddle]

wow they just spilt that?

[split mortar]

Ds may cause wuite a bunch of issues but uh

Gets eaten by 30 worms

[dusk laurel]

Yes

[indigo glade]

He can train. He also got the armour, which makes him more of a threat.

[wheat fjord]

Desert scourege can't stop catching Ls : (

[dusk laurel]

Nuh uh

[pliant ruin]

It's literally the first boss

what do you expect

😭

[limpid saddle]

This is incredibly interesting & yet we were definetly not meant to know that

[indigo glade]

Beat up every character from DBZ.

[pliant ruin]

real

scoogean grindset...

[wheat fjord]

We need the desert scourege to go on a training arc fr

[pulsar ocean]

desert scourge would no diff eoc

[mighty zenith]

guy gets his food he doesnt need more than that

[pliant ruin]

eat bug

[spare pier]

Another problem I have with making massive lore drops outside of the game is that it creates a giant game of telephone where half the community just gets fed misinformation

[mighty zenith]

soooo old lore

[spare pier]

Exactly

[pliant ruin]

eat bug...

[spare pier]

[dusk laurel]

Old lore be like

[pliant ruin]

from crab eater to antlion eater

[late veldt]

the don't starve is starving

[mighty zenith]

donut starve

[wheat fjord]

I don't sea the desert scourege loosing to the giant clam lol

[spare pier]

I prefer to let people know too little than to know too much exactly because of this

[pliant ruin]

what are we even doing anymore

we're powerscaling desert scourge

💔

[spare pier]

Specially because ideas change

[mighty zenith]

shut the channel down

[dusk laurel]

giant clam and DS dont even live in the same place dawg

[split mortar]

And?

[mighty zenith]

everyone move to roy discord

[wheat fjord]

Desert goat*

[wheat fjord]

That's why it's a hypothetical.

[pliant ruin]

💔 💔 💔

[limpid saddle]

I mean the divide's already there

[spare pier]

I'm glad this channel at least is good at filtering misinfo

[split mortar]

It survived the incineration, that is country level so dry scoog has country level durability

-# this is a joke

[dusk laurel]

...

[mighty zenith]

hmm i should help spread misinfo

[dusk laurel]

I will stab Melon Gun

[mighty zenith]

[limpid saddle]

My ass woulda had no idea who Noxus or Xeroc were if it wasnt for external sources like Wrath Of The Gods

[wheat fjord]

Also the giant clam and desert scourge DID live together at a point

[dusk laurel]

No they did not

[pliant ruin]

I'm srry but powerscaling 2 completely random creatures that have little relevance seems really pointless to me

i mean pop off

also yeah they didnt

[dusk laurel]

DS lived in the old shores region of the upper layers

[spare pier]

The thing is that you shouldn't know them from that

[wheat fjord]

Ohhh

[spare pier]

[wheat fjord]

Mbmb

[dusk laurel]

GC lives in the middle regions

[spare pier]

That's like saying "I wouldn't know about Goku if it wasn't for Dragon Ball Kakumei"

[wheat fjord]

Mbmb but still its a hypothetical

[dusk laurel]

Fair enough

[mighty zenith]

ngl its kinda wild how popular wotg has become

[split mortar]

Tier one abyss is not same as tier 3

[spare pier]

YEAH YOU SHOULDN'T BECAUSE THAT'S NOT GOKU

[pliant ruin]

waht is

dragon ball

kakumei

[late veldt]

what was the surface part of Illmeris like anyways. before it got put in an air fryer

[spare pier]

Shitty webcomic

[limpid saddle]

Yeah, yeah I know

[mighty zenith]

dragon ball evolution....

[dusk laurel]

who is goku

[limpid saddle]

But it's not exactly in there

[wheat fjord]

The eye of cthulu is deadass worm food

[split mortar]

Gokuversal

[pliant ruin]

the timeless shores in question

[spare pier]

The art is good but it just misses the point of Dragon Ball dramatically

It's one of those

"We know what made Dragon Ball good"

Gore

[dusk laurel]

ilmeris never reached the surface

[late veldt]

I mean like. where the desert is now

ohe

[indigo glade]

What's a Dragon Ball?

[mighty zenith]

looked it up

first result

goku betrayed and trapped for 10000 years

[dusk laurel]

it was just a lot closer to the surface

[mighty zenith]

yep sounds about right

[dusk laurel]

since uh

[spare pier]

Yeah no it's basically that

[split mortar]

[spare pier]

Dragon Ball fans are stupid

[pliant ruin]

Illmeris was always a underground sea yeah

[indigo glade]

This "meris" is always so ill.

[late veldt]

so like I guess the desert was just. a desert even then

[indigo glade]

💔

[dusk laurel]

heart break

[pliant ruin]

yeah

[spare pier]

There is no person more stupid than those who think they understand a story better than its creator

[limpid saddle]

Outside of that the only knowledge I would've had about Xeroc after my first Calamity playthrough WOTGS withstanding was 'Traitor Almighty' because half of the lore items didnt drop for some reason

[pliant ruin]

random thing but we actually made the desert equivalent of roy a part of illmeris purely because desert with giant dead coral and marine animal skeleton aesthethic goes hard

err

an ex part of illmeris

[mighty zenith]

roy koopa

[dusk laurel]

koopas

chris bat

[split mortar]

Global warming really fucking up roy

[pliant ruin]

crips rat..

[late veldt]

you got the Yharim Shuts The Fuck Up secret seed

[dusk laurel]

Incredivle

[spare pier]

Shoutouts to me pinging Enamoured solely to ask them if a swampy desert was a reasonable landscape

[late veldt]

I'm guessing not

[cloud ibex]

PoE2 sandswept marsh...........................

[dusk laurel]

You guys need to make a swamp...

[spare pier]

(It is)

[spare pier]

Hi, the Jungle

[pliant ruin]

did u guys know that like

[split mortar]

Arent swamps

Wet
And deserts

Dry

[mighty zenith]

thats a jungle

[pliant ruin]

in the carboniferous period

[mighty zenith]

dumbnass!!!!

[pliant ruin]

there were like swamps where itd snow and freeze over

[dusk laurel]

i love coal swamps

[spare pier]

A jungle is lowkey comically close to being a swamp

[pliant ruin]

its kinda crazy to me bc people dont usually associate the carboniferous or the paleozoic as a whole with the cold

[spare pier]

Specially Terraria's, that shit has a LOT of water

[indigo glade]

Deserts are just places without a lot of rain.

[light linden]

rebecca can I ask a question about the plague?

[spare pier]

I swear to God if it's the plating

Go on

[light linden]

tempting but no

[dusk laurel]

Rebecca please have mercy for Thunder

[spare pier]

I really would like to answer that but there isn't an answer

[indigo glade]

For example, Antarctica is a desert.

[spare pier]

It's just

[limpid saddle]

Ooh potential plague lore

[spare pier]

An alloy made by the Plague nanobots

[light linden]

can the plague affect other diseases on their own?

[split mortar]

Go headcanon our own ideas then!

[snow orbit]

insert question about the plating

[light linden]

e.g. prions and viruses

[spare pier]

Probably?

[snow orbit]

would calamitas mix cola and apple juice

[split mortar]

I could see it working on bacteria since thats a irl thing, but arent virus like potentially too small fir that?

[light linden]

I mean

[spare pier]

If you mean as in "turn other kinds of microscopic life into plague", yeah probably

[light linden]

there are some viruses infected by other viruses

[pliant ruin]

Thunder genuine question y don't u just headcanon this stuff

[split mortar]

Oh then fair enough

[pliant ruin]

cuz like

most of ur questions r things most developers wouldn't really have thought about/have an actual precise answer to

[light linden]

tbh I'm desperately trying to take my mind off of the literal wildfire nearby

[pliant ruin]

ok yeah fair

[mighty zenith]

wha

[dusk laurel]

Fair

[snow orbit]

stay safe

[pliant ruin]

^

[mighty zenith]

[dusk laurel]

garbo

[light linden]

oklahoma is burning

[mighty zenith]

me

oh

[split mortar]

They have a wildfire nearby, and uh
They havent been able to really flee cause their mum wanted an appointment iirc

[mighty zenith]

😭

[dusk laurel]

you shoudl rejohn sscls

theres a lot of lore

[mighty zenith]

no

[snow orbit]

that is insane what

[light linden]

and there's a wildfire near me but I can't get any info on it

[mighty zenith]

jesus

sorry to hear that thunder, stay safe out there

[light linden]

the news is only reporting on the south side of tulsa (not surprising) and not the north side of tulsa (also not surprising)

so I only know where the fire is and not where it is going

[snow orbit]

guys... what would be DoG's favorite cigarette brand to smoke while daydrinking

[dusk laurel]

tobacco

unrolled tobacco leaves

[snow orbit]

wait dog has a giant jaw he would rather eat that shit

[cloud ibex]

for a moment i read daydrinking as drunkdriving

[light linden]

also it's just something I'm curious about

[mighty zenith]

fits just as well if not better

[snow orbit]

hey great idea

what car would calamitas drive while drunk driving?

[light linden]

she can fly

[mighty zenith]

she never got a license

[split mortar]

She prob doesnt have a driving license

[dusk laurel]

drunk flying

breaking

[cloud ibex]

DoG the typa mf to say "all these fucking drunk crashers are giving us drunk drivers a bad rep"

[mighty zenith]

REAL

[snow orbit]

real

[split mortar]

Yeah

[dusk laurel]

so true

[snow orbit]

drunk driving without a license now thats badass

[light linden]

also uh

I kinda do have a headcanon for it

I've always imagined it as a metal made from the nanomachines

[snow orbit]

thunder... its yharon

[pliant ruin]

that's fair

i mean as long as ur fine with not getting answers sometimes n devs r fine with anaswering them nothing wrong with it

[dusk laurel]

^

[light linden]

another thing I've been curious about

do we have 3d models for the exo twins?

[dusk laurel]

No

[snow orbit]

would fit with calamity having a goddamn murasama

[light linden]

damn

[snow orbit]

everything must be a mgrr reference

[split mortar]

What do yiu think draedons heart is referencing?

[cloud ibex]

i will be eating the murasama

no more

[mighty zenith]

guy eating tools gif

[dusk laurel]

murasama after i blow it up

[light linden]

I need to know what they'd look like from the front for something in my add-on

[snow orbit]

mmm... no idea

[dusk laurel]

the best i can give you is the concept art, which is in the same position as the sprite... but more hd

[split mortar]

Give

I wanna see exo conc art

[dusk laurel]

give me 30 minutes to look through the images iban has sent in calart

[snow orbit]

half-hour is okay but 30 minutes???

unacceptable

[dusk laurel]

hairboom.gif

[light linden]

I do actually have a question related to the plating but not what it's made of

is the stinger of the goliath made of the plating at all?

[wheat fjord]

Calamity progression so funny

We go from killing random apex predators to some unnatural beings.

Then some minor idols ect ect nothin too crazy.

Then we straight up start killing gods

[pliant ruin]

You start killing gods from prehardmode

[dusk laurel]

Not all gods were created equal

[split mortar]

Wof contains possibly thousands of gods worth of essence

[dusk laurel]

some were just more equal than others

[light linden]

ngl

something I've always hated about the dungeon is how the forsaken archive spawns

I've had it spawn completely seperated from the dungeon before

[wheat fjord]

Which ones

The slime god makes u fight his paladins

And then flys away

He's so pathetic

[pliant ruin]

Well true you kill slime god exactly 2 bosses after pre hardmode so i guess my statement is wrong

[shut tide]

Hes strategic

[sleek halo]

Slime God is also actively going against his nature…

[shut tide]

He flees from battles he cant win

[wheat fjord]

True

[sleek halo]

Like brother is actively nerfing himself

[pliant ruin]

i wouldn't call him pathethic

[sleek halo]

Slime could be extremely scary

[pliant ruin]

devourer is more pathethic than he is