lore-discussion

[manic coral]

everywhere else is generally better off

[split mortar]

Wouldnt be surprised if its basically the last bastion of humanity in the heartlands

But we play on only one continent afterall

[manic coral]

things are kinda recovering

[dusk laurel]

I mean

we know that there's more survivors than just the npcs

[manic coral]

there are some city-state reforming, hell, some even made it through ok enough here and there

some Godseeker Knights are out there fighting for control over parts of what's left

[magic zenith]

I will never get over the fact that it's called heartlands

[dawn vigil]

is yharim just fucked off somewhere or did he just decide to stop killing stuff for some reason

[manic coral]

moreso a title that's used to refer to it

[tepid timber]

He fucked off

[manic coral]

since i mean

[dusk laurel]

gilded axolotl entry confirms that there are ilmeran survivors who weren't amidias

[manic coral]

you actually name it upon creating a world

[split mortar]

He fucked off a few months ago to the aerie for whatever reason

He could become a threat again many times

[dawn vigil]

how strong is the median citizen of this setting
like
In terraria terms

[manic coral]

fucked off to the Aerie after fighting Braelor and Statis and geting armor ugprades from Draedon

[tepid timber]

Weak baby

[dawn vigil]

do they ahve 400 or 500 health?

[deft vessel]

No

[split mortar]

Start the game

[manic coral]

literally just an average person

[split mortar]

100

[manic coral]

i mean

no reason for it to be much differejnt

[robust osprey]

maybe slightly stronger than average irl human, if we coint azafurians as average terraria humans

they have more inmunity to heat

and horns

[magic zenith]

Imagine how much stronger gods would be if those dumb fucks found out about crystal hearts

[tepid timber]

They’re from arizona

[robust osprey]

which can hurt if you get hit by them

[dawn vigil]

oh I'd think that with the existence of life fruits and life crystals there would be an uptick of health
or are lthe life items cultivated among the rich, or just heartlands exclusive?

[deft vessel]

Actually every human is planet level, but the rest of the world scales relative to them

[robust osprey]

if not azafurians, or atleast not native (guide), then it's just a regular irl human

[manic coral]

i mean i'd asume they don't really need them. i mean, you cna always jsut

train reguarlly

i'd say stuff like that are more like quicker ways to achieve more pwoer

[tepid timber]

Like the goat xeroc

[manic coral]

rather than the only ways to do stuff like that

[split mortar]

How often does a player die to cave enemies?

[magic zenith]

There's one guy in Heartlands who clears not just cal universe, but also every other verse, all other people are average guys. And because of this strong ass guys every heartland resident is planetary level

[dawn vigil]

any of you seen project moon
I'm wondering how the higher tier PML bosses would scale in City threat rating

[manic coral]

heartlands exclusive, pretty recent formation

but also

[dusk laurel]

holy shit

[deft vessel]

But again, how many dabloons would a auric dragon pelt cost?

[dusk laurel]

project moon

[manic coral]

this

[tepid timber]

17 doubloons

[dusk laurel]

providence would be star of the city for sure

[deft vessel]

A fair deal imo

[robust osprey]

personally, a lot

how can a human fight a spider of around its size

without freaking out and die by a heart attack

[dusk laurel]

noxus would either be sotc or impuritas civitatis depending on how active it is

[magic zenith]

Let's scale me to random heartlands citizen

[deft vessel]

The Terrarian is……… Australian

[tepid timber]

A spear

[robust osprey]

what if it doesnt have a spear

not everyone has weapons

[languid badge]

skill issue on their part

[tepid timber]

You have teeth

[magic zenith]

You are born with sword, axe and pickaxe, fym

[tepid timber]

Eat the mf

[dawn vigil]

impurity isnt an active rank does noxus defy Head laws

[split mortar]

And they dont do mucj to said spider

[robust osprey]

1 damage to the spider

😨

[dusk laurel]

uhhhh

[magic zenith]

Knockback:

[dusk laurel]

we dont know much about noxus other than it's really strong and is a major threat

[robust osprey]

and DoG's boss, apparently

and is in the same place as signus in the distortion hierarchy

which is funny

[dawn vigil]

distortion?

[robust osprey]

distortion

[tepid timber]

So Noxus is DoG’s boss, and Signus shares a place in the distortion hierarchy with Noxus, but Signus is called the envoy of the devourer? Why would he be an envoy of a being beneath him on the hierarchy?

[robust osprey]

where DoG come from

and weaver

and signus...kinda

atleast 50% of signus is native of distortion

[robust osprey]

old lore

"envoy of the devourer" is not canon anymore

[tepid timber]

Ah gotcha

[dawn vigil]

what is that lol

[robust osprey]

a place

DoG's home

where the portal in CV leads

[eager bluff]

superhell

[robust osprey]

it's like, another dimension

I think

[eager bluff]

its SuperHell™️

[limpid saddle]

No it's like a spatial anomaly

A weird amount of space basically folded in on itself & got all freaky & fucked up because of it

[robust osprey]

we will be able to go to the distortion

some day ™️

[limpid saddle]

Eventually there will be a sub-world for it yeah

Emphasis on eventually

as in

3000 fargo years

[robust osprey]

when SSO fully comes out, the devs would probably work on crags update

and then

distortion update

I think

[limpid saddle]

Along those lines yeah

Though there might be a plauge sub-biome added in between those two

[robust osprey]

so my grandsons might play distortion update when theyre 40

[limpid saddle]

Also alot of boss reworks

[limpid saddle]

Say great-grandson to the power of 4 then you might be right

for as we all know fabsol is immortal & does not die & for as long as they are sustained by the life essence of the Calamity dev team the Calamity mod will continue development

[late veldt]

could a god use another auric soul to like. double king ascension?

[cloud ibex]

i think in theory maybe but it'd fuck you up both mentally and physically

cause the part of a godly soul that's the original person's soul would get more and more watered down the more souls they absorbed

[eager bluff]

in theory sure but in practice thats how you get auric polterghast

[clear girder]

If human + auric soul = god what happens when a dragon consumes a human soul

[robust osprey]

I don't think that's possible

I think about it like in undertale

UT monster's soul = cal human soul
UT human soul = cal auric soul

unless xeroc (pre ascension) and yharim could be something like boss monster (asgore)

since asgore's soul (and toriel's) stays a bit after dying, eventually breaking after some time

in the hypotetical case that a dragon absorbs yharim's soul it would be like a dragon god or something

but that's just my hc

minus the part when a monster absorbs more than 1 human soul

[gentle plover]

is there a lore reason as to why Providence and the other profaned creatures only start appearing post-ML?

[split mortar]

Providence sees you as a threat when you beat ml, so her and the profaned enemies start appearing to deal with you

[gentle plover]

aha

I thought it might be because she was afraid of moon lord and with him dead she dares make more moves but that makes more sense

on that note tho, could ML beat any of the post-ML bosses in the shape he is in when we fight him or is he weak enough that DoG, Yharon or Providence could beat him?

[split mortar]

Dog, yharon and providence i imagine could, maybe guardians

But the much less intelligent ones like weaver or CV or folly would figure out they cant harm ml and have to hurt the eyes

[gentle plover]

is it in the lore that his body is basically invulnerable to damage?

[dusk laurel]

not yet, but yeah it is canon

[gentle plover]

ight, cool

[split mortar]

Its not stated anywhere in text

But

Uh
The writers have used it as an example of ml being the tankiest and hardest to put down fucker ever
-# also its in the game via the mechanics

[gentle plover]

so zeratros and the other dragons had to snipe his eyes too lmao

[split mortar]

They broke open moonlords skull
Tore moonlord in half
Scooped out its organs
Trapped it on the moon for 8+ centuries

And its still one of the strongest things on the planet

[gentle plover]

coco crazy

also, it was pretty funny that mr. Moon Lord pfp answered the Moon Lord question

anyway, thank you for answering

[split mortar]

I like moonlord

[gentle plover]

he is cool

[glacial rampart]

fnaf 4 then fnaf sister location

[timid lotus]

is peak xeroc stronger than peak fovos?

[dusk laurel]

yah

[split mortar]

Yeah

Xeroc is the strongest character

[timid lotus]

they prob would, but not full moonlord

[split mortar]

Full ml is going to need yharon, yharim, scal, exos and jared to really have a chance at being defeated according to cei iirc

[robust osprey]

would yharon even survive if he's with to jared

or assuming jared wont implode when outside of abyss

and can breath in air

[split mortar]

You can drag jared out the abyss iirc

[robust osprey]

really?

well I'm guessing it can go outside beacuse of silva

[tepid timber]

Who the fuck is jared

[robust osprey]

primordial

wyrm

[tepid timber]

Oh

[robust osprey]

just a meme name everyone says beacuse it's an actual name and not a title

and it's its name in GFB

[tepid timber]

Neat

[robust osprey]

and it's shorter than primordial wyrm

well ig you can also use PW..

[tepid timber]

With a name like jared it should far larger

[split mortar]

The name originated from a streamer playing calamity and coming across a glitch that made the wyrm friendly and follow you after it killed you

Wyrm got called jared by the streamer and it stuck

[timid lotus]

eh

endgame terraraian is as strong as the dragons

meaning that yharim should be close

[split mortar]

No
Yharim is equal to zeratros
Who is currently stronger or equal to the terrarian in game

[limpid saddle]

thats not really a good scale for anything

[split mortar]

At end game

[limpid saddle]

dragons were also highly varied in power

[split mortar]

Slime god is possibly stronger then the dragon of gluttony

[timid lotus]

it says dragons

[split mortar]

And yharim is hyping you up

[dusk laurel]

the dragons are multiple individuals with varying degrees of power, who didn't even fully defeat ML, they only sealed it away

[split mortar]

Zeratros has been confirmed to be very relative to yharim in power

They got lethally wounded with many allies helping them

[dusk laurel]

Yharim has a bias towards the dragons, so it's expected that he would over-exaggerate their power

[split mortar]

Also moonlord is arguably the tankiest guy in calamity

[timid lotus]

hmm

[split mortar]

So like

[dusk laurel]

ML is really durable and has insane healing capabilities

[timid lotus]

but jared isnt canon tho

possibly

[dusk laurel]

Jared is canon

[split mortar]

They are

[timid lotus]

we dont know the full strength

[split mortar]

Whered you get that?

[split mortar]

Post scal pre yharim

[timid lotus]

theres very little lore is what im trying to say

[dusk laurel]

We do, postSCal/Exos

[timid lotus]

alr but hes a very unbalanced boss

he does insane amounts of damage per hit

[dusk laurel]

PW in its current state is not a good place to reference, it will very likely be fully reworked along with the redesign

[timid lotus]

yes

[split mortar]

Game stats arent the best at showing stats

Cause i doubt dungeon guardian is hitting stronger then scal

[timid lotus]

dungeon guardian is a game mechanic more than a character

[indigo glade]

PW isn't that much stronger than the final bosses.

[dusk laurel]

^

[twilit heron]

What’s y’all’s biggest complaint about calamity lore? Idk curious because mine is the fact that some of the most powerful characters, such as the player, Yharim, and Calamitas herself, have absolutely no explanation as to why they’re so powerful, they just are. Might be wrong about Yharim though. But like if you can’t create a full backstory for the title character, you really have some work to do

[timid lotus]

mhm 1000 damage per head hit and unbalanced lightning beams topped off with very very tankyness

[indigo glade]

Especially considering nearly all classes get a significant defence boost with Demonshade.

[twilit heron]

Like if I’m correct there’s no reason why she’s so powerful and has such a strong affinity with brimstone flame

[cloud ibex]

draedon not being real

[split mortar]

She likely absorbed most of the brimstone elementals power imo

[timid lotus]

demonshade is endgame??

[dusk laurel]

Yes

[timid lotus]

and not canon

[dusk laurel]

It will be

[indigo glade]

That is at Master mode, the very peak of Difficulty. Calamitas also has insanely strong attacks at Master.

[split mortar]

It will be made not shadowspec armour

[indigo glade]

So is PW...

[timid lotus]

demonshade was meant so you could demolish whatever yo uwant

[dusk laurel]

Demonshade will eventually become preYharim rather than endgame when it gets reworked

[split mortar]

^

[twilit heron]

Wasn’t the entire reason why Azafure is gone is because when the elemental attacks she already was insanely powerful, but she couldn’t control it?

[indigo glade]

Demonshade is also the intended armour to use against PW.

[split mortar]

She got power when brimmy woke up

And they were equals

yet brimmy is so much weaker now and scal is post yharon

[twilit heron]

Actually wait emphasis on “were”

[split mortar]

And scal has the same magic signature as brimmy

[twilit heron]

So is she just brimmy v2?

[cloud ibex]

we don't really know yet

[twilit heron]

Also duh they both primarily wield brimstone flame

[cloud ibex]

also there's three reasons yharim is as strong as he is

[split mortar]

No
As in
Even fir brimstone magic
They are damn near identicle

That wouldnt be pointed out by draedon if it was normal

[cloud ibex]

1. he's attuned to the second(?) strongest dragon in existence ever
2. he wears pure auric armor with exotechnological enhancements
3. he's had over a literal century to train and get stronger

[frozen zodiac]

i was about to say 2 and 3 but just forgot attunement

[indigo glade]

Second strongest is correct.

[split mortar]

Third strongest dragon ever
Jared is second

Second strongest auric dragon though

[stoic lark]

4. Yharoids

[twilit heron]

Speaking of yharon, if I read his lore thingy right, doesn’t he have the power to rebirth other dragons?

[split mortar]

Yes

[cloud ibex]

he does yes

[dusk laurel]

Yep, other auric dragons

[split mortar]

He is why the others could rebirth endlessly

[cloud ibex]

problem is that requires their souls to be intact

[dusk laurel]

If their soul still exists

[twilit heron]

Okay so Yharim might be a dumbass

[split mortar]

?

[twilit heron]

Could you not just steal the auric souls back from the gods?

[cloud ibex]

no

[dusk laurel]

Nope

[split mortar]

Nope

[dusk laurel]

Same braincell...

[frozen zodiac]

what would the calamity world be like if xeroc never absorbed xeratros

[split mortar]

A god ascension completely fucks up the auric dragons soul

[cloud ibex]

the process of ascension fuses the person's soul with the auric soul

[wheat walrus]

auric soul + other soul = divine soul (unofficial title, but the gist of it is that it's not auric anymore)

[split mortar]

And the god soul also fucking explodes monster undertale style on death

[cloud ibex]

there's no way to separate the two after the fact

[split mortar]

Thus, god essence is made

[twilit heron]

Ngl that sounds like an excuse they made so people wouldn’t beg to fight more dragons /j

[tepid timber]

Fair excuse

[dusk laurel]

[twilit heron]

But yeah I get it

[wheat walrus]

I assumed it was similar to elder dragon bioenergy in MHW

[split mortar]

We already fight many dragons lol

Like maybe even double that of gods
-# though only 1 auric dragon

[wheat walrus]

but thinking about it that has a specific system to be incorporated into the new world

and gods would just be dying, not dying in the calamity equivalent of the rotten vale nor the everstream

[twilit heron]

Are pigrons dragons? Thought they were a new species just descended from auric dragons

[split mortar]

Draconic offshoots ARE dragons

Just ones that came from auric dragons

[twilit heron]

Kinda like how humans aren’t apes, we’re just descended from them

[frozen zodiac]

whats the main event in the calamity world where the years started from 0 again
like in real life we have before and after christ and in star wars it was i think before and after the first death star exploded

[wheat walrus]

iirc Azafure's foundation

[dusk laurel]

Frost dragon [not mentioned ingame yet]
Descendents -> Fishrons and pigrons

[wheat walrus]

founding whatevs

[split mortar]

Duke fishron
Old duke
Dragon folly
Pigrons
Wyrms
Jared
Yharon
Basilisks
Wyverns

All dragons

That we fight

Only 1 aurcic

[twilit heron]

And then poor Betsy just isn’t canon

[tepid timber]

None of the crossover stuff is

[frozen zodiac]

If any crossover was canon everything would crumble apart

[wheat walrus]

but yea Azafure is the first city, and the main calendar starts around the time of its foundation (slightly less than 2000 years ago as of present age), and as of Draedon, the entirety of recorded history starts around 2000 years ago so right before or around that time

[twilit heron]

Honestly even if crossover stuff was canon I feel like ood still wouldn’t be

That’s just too much of a conflict

Would love to see ood be canon but it would be super hard to do tbh

[tepid timber]

Draedon should use his stupid fucking nerd brain and make a time machine so we can fight zeratros

[frozen zodiac]

the 2 main crossovers from vanilla are both explicitly the other world invading, whether its canon to those other worlds im not sure

[split mortar]

Dont starve has eoc and twins

So ig so

[cloud ibex]

i think the dryad shows up in dd2

[split mortar]

Yea

[cloud ibex]

and also a handful of terraria weapons

[wheat walrus]

also just remembered, there was a thing I sent to you in dms a while ago but you don't seem to have noticed, could you check rn pls :p

[twilit heron]

Yeah that’s referenced in the credits

Of terraria

[frozen zodiac]

for dont starve the explanation is Wortox (the little red krampus guy) found a prism thing containing a terraria tree that broke and connected both worlds

[eager bluff]

no the credits show her turning into a tree

her shimmered form is a reference to her in dd2 tho

[twilit heron]

The problem with making old ones canon is that to do it you’d either have to a) make a multiverse and people always get turned off by that, tho a multiverse plot can work if done correctly, problem is calamity isn’t built in a way where a multiverse would work, or b) directly contradict the lore of dd2 x terraria

[split mortar]

-# also dont starve has a multiverse plot

[snow mountain]

its canon, it just has so little bearing on the actual lore that it simply doesn't matter

[twilit heron]

Since when was it canon

[frozen zodiac]

remind me is the lore team gonna try to make pumpkin and frost moon canon or do they still think "dedicated content to: jesucristo" makes it impossible

[snow mountain]

it doesn't need to be; thats what i am saying

[split mortar]

Makes it impossible

[snow mountain]

it has so little bearing

[split mortar]

Spookmoon and frostmoon are still not canon thanks to jesucristo or whatever i dont rember

[wheat walrus]

jesus christ...

[cosmic zenith]

Auric souls being retrievable actually breaks a fundamental aspect of Calamity lore and to some extent softens the tragedy of the Auric Dragon genocide so....

[robust osprey]

yes it is jesucristo

[wheat walrus]

yea

one of the most important themings of calamity is nothing being eternal, how everything will end at some point, how even still, that end is the beginning of something new, and social reactions of it with those who refuse the change, those who bring forth the change, those who accept it and all inbetween

[cyan coyote]

How tf did people even genocide auric dragons in the first place

[cloud ibex]

they kinda just

killed them

[cyan coyote]

Aren't the dragons like pre-DoG to Post-yharon level

[cloud ibex]

one by one, over the course of hundreds of years

[cyan coyote]

Just kept sending canned fodder huh

[dusk laurel]

the average auric dragon was similar in strength to a normal eidolon wyrm

[cyan coyote]

Guh

[indigo glade]

"Relatives of the auric dragons, they adapted to hide away in a forgotten corner of the world to survive the great purges. And yet even without auric souls, the power of eidolon wyrms rivals many of their brethren who possessed them." Eidolon Wyrm's Bestiary entry.

[frozen zodiac]

Wait i never thought about it until now, did the hardmode ores just disappear alongside the sealing of essence inside WOF?

[indigo glade]

So a lot of them weren't actually that strong...

[frozen zodiac]

did their strength wane and they turned into stone and dirt or the pre hm ores

[indigo glade]

All we know is that it is canon they appear, at least in the Heartlands, after WoF and the Mechs.

I believe it was Cei who confirmed it, in this channel, so you can use the search feature, because I do not remember the exact wording.

[frozen zodiac]

i was having an idea recently on a new death animation for providence that emphasizes her essence being spread across the land

[indigo glade]

But it was essentially that most gameplay things have an explanation, including the ores.

[frozen zodiac]

with stuff like the dreamcatcher symbols when the radiance dies in hollow knight

[cyan coyote]

No light and dark = no funny magic metal

[eager bluff]

silence gamedev, ideasguy is talking

[indigo glade]

I mean... She literally explodes...

I'm not sure how you emphasise that more...

[frozen zodiac]

also i feel like her crystal shattering at the end would be cool

[cyan coyote]

He means it by her essence spreading into the muds and roots of the jungle

[indigo glade]

Could just make the explosion linger for longer and further out.

[indigo glade]

Fun fact: Uelibloom isn't Jungle specific. It goes after any mud.

[cyan coyote]

Isn't glowing mushroom biomes just infected jungle biomes

Oh wait

Tksjsnfnntnr

[indigo glade]

Why would you think that?

[cyan coyote]

I'm on hard drugs rn mb

[cyan coyote]

when you uhh

[indigo glade]

Clentaminate?

[cyan coyote]

Like purify the mushroom biome

Ya

It turns into normal jungle

But then I realized you said "any mud" and that it wasn't even hinting at the biome

Reading comprehension moment

[dusk laurel]

cant wait for uelibloom to be killed

[cyan coyote]

Are they removing it

[dusk laurel]

Planned to yes

[cyan coyote]

[dusk laurel]

whenever the profaned biome gets added

id assume divine geodes will take its place

at least somewhat

[cyan coyote]

Making armor from a goddess's rock corpse kinda sounds metal I guess

[dusk laurel]

nah

you take the armor from her guardians

[cyan coyote]

Guhhh...

[indigo glade]

Green material numero quatro. (I think?)

Maybe...

There's so much green in Terraria...

[cyan coyote]

Greenraria

[eager bluff]

there will be even more when i get my clentaminator

[indigo glade]

Jungle Spores, Chlorophyte, Perennial, Uelibloom...

There's also Living Shard stuff...

So much green...

Plague, too.

[eager bluff]

life alloy

[cyan coyote]

I wish gifs were still allowed cause I'd be sending the cat blackflip explosion gif by now

[indigo glade]

Eh. Green is such a minor part, and it isn't used in a "set" of items like the others.

[frozen zodiac]

i feel like a boss dying in the background screen could be cool

they just fly away and then a massive explosion or something

or if its a boss that spawns a new ore they crash down

[cyan coyote]

Twins combusting in the ground and then mythril just appearing doesn't feel really fit

[cyan coyote]

But this is mad funny

[frozen zodiac]

maybe not them then

if they want to keep providence exploding i think making it more graceful could work

right now it just feels like a bunch of lines

[cyan coyote]

The ocasional EoCs flying around only to be shot down is really silly

[frozen zodiac]

arent there several eoc in lore

[cyan coyote]

Yeah but not all of em just wander into our domain

[frozen zodiac]

actually its actually really close to what im thinking before the explosion happens

she turns into an outline but instead of exploding she just stops flapping her wings and she fades away

[cosmic zenith]

No, Yharon is the second most powerful Dragon

That said, well, people can get pretty powerful even without as much access to powerful gear like the player

And it still took multiple people to kill a Dragon
For example, the Flame Dragon was killed by Providence and her 3 companions

[light linden]

hey stip can I ask a question about dragons?

[cosmic zenith]

Sure!

[light linden]

did they all have scales?

or most of them at least?

[cosmic zenith]

I feel like most did, but not all

[sweet palm]

what is storm weaver

[light linden]

ok ty

[cosmic zenith]

Storm Weaver is an alien serpent from the Distortion, the same fissure of broken spacetime DoG comes from

[light linden]

idk if you remember but I was talking about designing a 'Dragon of Decay' a while ago

[cosmic zenith]

Np!

[cloud ibex]

interesting phrasing

[light linden]

been thinking of having their scales be closer to stone than actual scales

actually that gives me an idea

[dusk laurel]

👁️

[light linden]

most radioactiv- this isn't the place for this sorry

anyways any big lore drops happen?

[cloud ibex]

since when

[light linden]

11:59pm last night?

[dusk laurel]

uh

i don tink so

[cyan coyote]

Wowie zowie

Truly the goated dragons

[cosmic zenith]

🤨 don't do that again

[cyan coyote]

[cosmic zenith]

Anyways

"Goated dragons" fans when I design a dragon that is actually goat-like

[cyan coyote]

YOOOOOO

[tepid timber]

That could be cool

[cyan coyote]

[barren sonnet]

This would go hard as whatever dragon the ravager ate to become a god

[cyan coyote]

Dragon of Sacrifice?

[little coral]

yharon is yharon

[cosmic zenith]

@cloud ibex you still there bud

[cloud ibex]

death

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah

[cyan coyote]

Ruh roh

[cosmic zenith]

Death Dragon -> God of Sacrifices

[cloud ibex]

i'm gonna hit your knees with hammers

[cyan coyote]

Yes please

[cloud ibex]

do not say shit like this in a server with minors in it

that's a warn

[cyan coyote]

Ok ok

[cloud ibex]

[cyan coyote]

👍

[cyan coyote]

I keep forgetting about that

[eager bluff]

its so fucked up to see that cat with a flat white bg

[cyan coyote]

I was under the impression that a mod with lore like this would have a mature audience

[eager bluff]

where is its gradient

[cyan coyote]

[eager bluff]

what did you do to it

[cloud ibex]

no it's still a terraria mod

the average player age is, like,

13 and a half

[eager bluff]

have you not spent a single day in this server

[cyan coyote]

Yes

[tepid timber]

It has a broad age range

[cyan coyote]

I literally rarely interact in here

I only hop in lore discuss whenever I remember I'm inside this server

"Oh I'm still in the calamity mod discord, cool"

Anyways is the Dragon of Death like 3rd strongest 🙏

[barren sonnet]

I’ve noticed that a lot of the stronger gods had similar goals between the person and dragon, for example the ravager wanted to have sacrifices, the death dragon wanted to death people probably, but when the person and dragon have different goals, the god is weaker, for example, the slime god does not give into gluttony, and persevered balance, but is super weak.

Is this real or just a coincidence

[cloud ibex]

that i don't think we know but they were one of the oldest

[tepid timber]

I think you may have the order flip flopped?

I think the gods goals changed after they gained their powers from ascension

[cosmic zenith]

Second oldest, one of the more powerful

[barren sonnet]

Idk, I’m just guessing from what I read in game

[cyan coyote]

So sad bro got turned into a flesh golem

😔

[cosmic zenith]

Zeratros, the Light Dragon and King of the Dragons, is the most powerful
Right below him are the Dragons of Life, Death, and Rebirth (Yharon)

[cyan coyote]

Makes sense

Can there be a dark dragon fr

Edgy dragon

Emo dragon

[barren sonnet]

Which got eaten by Silva, Ravager, and no one?

[tepid timber]

Is more akin to a caste system rather than a plain old 1,2,3 strongest?

[cosmic zenith]

Correct

[cosmic zenith]

Strength is not that simple

[indigo glade]

While this is an interesting idea, we don't know what the Dragon of Death wanted, so it can't really be used for evidence.

[barren sonnet]

Random question, what do people in the calamity universe use for livestock?

[eager bluff]

the caste system would be more like
do you have an auric soul if no you are low class if yes you are upper class

[cosmic zenith]

Yharon would be second strongest, due to him surviving and having a busted domain
I'd say Life and Death were on equal footing and practically twins, mutually respectful and two sides of a balance

[eager bluff]

rather than a strength ranking determining caste

[cosmic zenith]

Ravager and Death Dragon are not that covered in current lore, so it's hard to tell what they were like

[cloud ibex]

Much prefer life and death respecting each other than them hating each other

[dusk laurel]

True

[cosmic zenith]

Probably fantasy versions of real livestock, in functionality

[eager bluff]

death from ringworld iirc

[frozen zodiac]

I like portrayals of death not being inherently evil like that one webtoon of the grim reaper being a guide to souls confused after they died

[cloud ibex]

You mean discworld?

Kinda yeah

[eager bluff]

yeah that one

[barren sonnet]

Super diluted pigron descendants as livestock sounds cool

[cloud ibex]

I can’t remember if there was a personification of life there but Death does have immense respect for life in general

[tepid timber]

Anubis type shit

[cosmic zenith]

I so wanna get some Artemis and Apollo inspirations for Life and Death Dragons
But I dunno if it'd be fitting

[dusk laurel]

The death golem is the revived GoS, not the DoD

[frozen zodiac]

would dragon meat be considered a heretic meal

[eager bluff]

death moonlights as santa in discworld and iirc directly stated that the best gift for someone is life

[cosmic zenith]

Apollo being a symbol of enlightenment (Life), while Artemis is a symbol of wilderness and nature (Death)

[tepid timber]

Idk about that artemis tie in

[light linden]

I feel like the inverse would be better

[cosmic zenith]

How so

[tepid timber]

Probably a more fitting god that can be used

[eager bluff]

me when i learn calculus and instantly Die

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah, I mean moreso the parallel aspect rather than a direct, not-subtle reference

[frozen zodiac]

"Life and death have been in love for longer than words can describe, life sends countless gifts to death, and death keeps them forever"

[cosmic zenith]

Because yeah the domains don't really match well

[eager bluff]

versus me when i go outside and get mauled by a bear

[barren sonnet]

Having the life and death dragons literally be siblings would be neat

[cosmic zenith]

Life-Death are cool Dragons to design due to this mirror aspect of their existence

But goddamn, designing the Sin Dragons would be awesome

[dusk laurel]

the seven deadly dragons...

[tepid timber]

Yama and Yami from hinduism could work

[barren sonnet]

Are the sins in calamity the same as catholic cardinal sins, or are they different ones?

[tepid timber]

Twin gods of life and death

[eager bluff]

resisting the urge to talk about dragon of lust

help

[cosmic zenith]

Catholic cardinal sins afaik

[cosmic zenith]

Interesting
I'll look into it

[sleek halo]

Dragon of Wrath..

[cosmic zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/hmusicruof4-rowley-diary-of-a-wimpy-kid-rodrick-rules-gif-26773802

[sleek halo]

I’ve headcanoned a design for him

[sleek halo]

Big giant hydra

with short bulky necks

[eager bluff]

do you know where my head went can you think of it

[sleek halo]

not capable of flight

with a body like behemoth from

[cosmic zenith]

I don't, not sure I want to imagine

[sleek halo]

the monsterverse

[glacial rampart]

[cosmic zenith]

I'm to Greece-coded, my mind goes to Aphrodite

[eager bluff]

it went to a certain company i wish i didnt know about

[scenic olive]

Dragon of love

[sleek halo]

Dragon of big fucking nasty ghouls

[frozen zodiac]

Can we be like Antonblast and not have lust be purely about Cex but just the desire of something

[scenic olive]

[sleek halo]

Turns into the god of evil & nefarious specters

[eager bluff]

greed and envy

[dusk laurel]

god of luigi's mansion

[scenic olive]

God of shawarma

[eager bluff]

gof

[dusk laurel]

kills you

[eager bluff]

iron man

[sleek halo]

jarvis

delete his balls

[cosmic zenith]

Gluttony, Wrath, Envy, Greed, Lust, Sloth, Pride

[sleek halo]

I have my own thing I’ve made

lol

[cosmic zenith]

Honestly, the coolest ones to design would be Envy, Greed and Sloth

[sleek halo]

which is the god of justice coming from the dragon of wrath

[eager bluff]

envy greed and lust are an inextricably linked trio

[frozen zodiac]

if im looking it up right Lust and Greed can be differentiated as Lust being a desire that's a detriment to yourself while Greed is a desire for something you don't need

[cosmic zenith]

I wish I had the time to go down the rabbit hole of research for each one of these!!

[sinful adder]

Aren't they all sort of just greed

[cosmic zenith]

And that my design had the depth of this title

[languid badge]

how do you even design envy
like I have a few ideas but that just feels very abstract

[scenic olive]

bottomless desires

[eager bluff]

make lust envy and greed one 3 headed dragon of desire

[frozen zodiac]

Hydreigon

[languid badge]

no thats the dragon of destruction

[frozen zodiac]

dragon of tanks

[spare pier]

It's been done before

[languid badge]

yeah ik

[eager bluff]

scott pilgrim or whatever i think

[light linden]

e.g. digimon

[late veldt]

and Steven

[light linden]

?

[eager bluff]

everybody knows the greatest cardinal sin is steven universe

[frozen zodiac]

the original sin

[cosmic zenith]

Maybe it is a sort of shapeshifter or mimic, trying to emulate the abilities of others around them
Very elusive but also a great stalker
Ironically, seething with a hidden hatred for those more skilled than it
For that reason, I would associate Envy with a neurotropic spit that allows the Envy Dragon to puppet the people said spit comes into contact with, before killing them in a set amount of time

Able to steal the skills of others, but never keep them

Endlessly striving to follow in the footsteps of others in a vicious, obsessive way, but never accomplishing anything due to an inability to self-reflect

I definitely don't say all this because I know what it's like to look up to someone so intensely you start to question your own accomplishments

[tepid timber]

Shapeshifter seems good for envy

[eager bluff]

honestly i feel like all of the sins could be encapsulated in one domain

said domain being desire

[spare pier]

My desire to be really fucking angry

[tepid timber]

I desire the jello in my fridge but it hasn’t set

[indigo glade]

I have a question. Have you ever watched Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood? Or read the manga?

[cosmic zenith]

I haven't

[indigo glade]

I see. Interesting...

[tepid timber]

You need to watch it

[indigo glade]

Great minds really do must think alike.

[tepid timber]

It’s peak

[spare pier]

You could say "Wrath caused by being unable to do something" but that treads dangerously close to envy and you can tie any human emotion to a desire like this

[cosmic zenith]

I wish I had the time

[eager bluff]

envy is the desire of what others have
lust is the desire of something that hurts you
greed is the desire of that which you dont need
wrath is the desire to harm others
sloth is the desire to stagnate
gluttony is the desire to consume
pride is the desire to be above all
stuff like that

[light linden]

Stip would you say radiation fell under Zeratros's domain?

[cosmic zenith]

It's unclear

[sleek halo]

that would

[eager bluff]

basically the dragon of desire is Turbo Satan

[sleek halo]

be son

crazy

if he also had fucking

radiation

under his domain

[light linden]

I mean light is radiation

[eager bluff]

if zeratros also had fucking

[sleek halo]

You fight Xeroc and he gives you cancer

[light linden]

I mean

it'd be effective

even if he loses

[sleek halo]

shit is terminal

[tepid timber]

Light is a lot of things

[eager bluff]

yeah a really goddamn intense sunburn

[light linden]

you'll still die

[sleek halo]

dies

[tidal tulip]

Is Noxus, in essencce, a very destructive glass canon? I would imagine he would die quite quickly if he showed his face around Xeroc, but he has more destructive capability than Xeroc, right?

[tepid timber]

No

[languid badge]

that is old lore wording

[tepid timber]

Xeroc is the most powerful

Just flat out

[dusk laurel]

I think... [?]

This might have been outright confirmed somewhere

idk

[tepid timber]

Never heard of this until now

[tidal tulip]

Stip answered me in an AMA telling me Xeroc is generally around continental to multi-continental (with some disagreements between devs I believe), with Noxus being a planetary threat.

[dusk laurel]

Noxus has more destructive power yeah

Xeroc is stronger conventionally

[tepid timber]

What can noxus do exactly attack wise?

[dusk laurel]

we dont know

[eager bluff]

not necessarily glass cannon but yes the most destructive being we know of

[dusk laurel]

Ya

[tidal tulip]

All we know is that he's a planetary threat. Yharim kinda "senses" it in the lore of Ceaseless Void

[tepid timber]

Well now I need this fight

[tidal tulip]

I absolutely agree

[manic coral]

i mean Yharim also qualifies as "planetary threat" and so does draedon potentially

i'd say your actions causing the detahs of half the world's population qualifies

at least vaguely

cosndiering as strong as he is at this point he probably COULD just go "fuck it" and kill literally everybody in the world basically if he really wanted to

the only people who'd be able to stop him realisticlaly or Calamitas maybe under some very specific circumstances or Draedon

i think that there are ways Cal could potentially become strong enough to fight Yharim and have at least a solid enough 50/50 chance of winning

if push really came to shove

[light linden]

hi cei

[pliant ruin]

i'm the sin of sloth ( zzz eepy zzzzzzzzzzzz)

[cosmic zenith]

I'm an eepy boy in a wakey world

Hello, Cei

And cheese

[pliant ruin]

hii

[manic coral]

hi :D

[sinful adder]

I had a silly idea

Cave Story could take place in the calamity world and it would make sense for both

The magic, the tech, the floating island, the draconic offshoots, the general power scale of things, it all works

Please share your thoughts on this

[tepid timber]

Thinking about it

Idk what cave story is

[sinful adder]

Oh. Only the progenitor to all indie games

It's pretty great

[glacial rampart]

dunno why you phrased it like that

[tidal tulip]

...another way of saying it's pretty much the first indie game that others have branched from?

[sinful adder]

I'm sarcastically saying it's like the most important game to have been made

[pliant ruin]

Wouldn't say that but it's definitely one of the most important yeah

[sinful adder]

Yeah

[pliant ruin]

I played it a rly rly long time ago

i should play it again

[bold dragon]

Yharim is a good guy from what i read

[barren sonnet]

No

Not even close

He uses “justice” to justify mass murder, and then ends up going so far that he turns basically everyone against him

[bold dragon]

Then draedon is a good guy

[barren sonnet]

No

What

He is literally amoral and was obsessed with creating life with no free will

[bold dragon]

Ok then calamitas is a good girl

[barren sonnet]

Kind of

[bold dragon]

Permafrost is a good dad

[barren sonnet]

Correct

Calamitas did some nasty stuff, but she ended up understanding the horrors that she had caused (after boiling the worlds biggest pot of fish stew)

[bold dragon]

And thats how you proof that ocean is just a soup

[bold dragon]

Anyway devourer of god really smh makes me think about the snake that spoke to eve

[barren sonnet]

Yharim was already a turd, devourer just made it worse

[bold dragon]

So poltergheist is basically the souls of a lot of people

[barren sonnet]

Pretty much

Prisoners and jailers of the dungeon mushed together into one ghost soup

[bold dragon]

Yharon is part of the og dragon that have auric souls right

[barren sonnet]

Yes, he is one of the auric dragons

[light linden]

iirc that's part of his inspiration

[light linden]

yes and he's the 2nd strongest one

[barren sonnet]

Zeratros is the only stronger one

King of the dagrons

[south relic]

Besides Zeratros and Yharon, what other auric dragons are mentioned in the in-game text?

[clear girder]

i don't think there were any other mentioned dragons

But you can deduce what dragons there were by looking at the gods like Silva

[south relic]

If there is a god of life, does that mean there was a dragon that controlled the power of life?

[clear girder]

yes

probably

there are some gods that didn't have an auric soul like astrum deus

but most likely she has a auric soul

[light linden]

flame, life, and death iirc

flame made providence, life made silva, death made the god that was turned into the ravager

oh also gluttony

which made the slime god

[clear girder]

wasn't ravager the god of sacrifices?

[light linden]

yes

most gods don't have the same domain as the dragon

Xeroc and Silva are the exceptions

they are the only ones that ascended correctly

and thus kept the same domain, kept their old appearance, and are significantly more powerful than most other gods

[south relic]

Does the god that was turned into the ravager mean that only part of death could be maintained?
That one part was the sacrifice?

Sorry if I am saying something strange. I'm using a translator.

And one more question.
Do the dragons of fire, life, death, etc. no longer exist because their souls have been consumed?

[clear girder]

they died

all of the dragons are extinct if you exclude Yharon

[sinful adder]

When something consumes an auric soul to become a god, they usually get a different "domain of power" than the dragon had, but it is also related. Death became sacrifice.

I wonder what the moon is. Is it special, somehow? Just a rock? Or something more?

[south relic]

I see. Thanks!

[limpid saddle]

oh hey fuckass bitch from fma

[blazing spindle]

Lore 1v1 purple god slime vs goozma who’s winning

[mighty zenith]

purple god slime because goozma doesnt exist

[gritty kraken]

was that the glob of 87

[gritty kraken]

I think they mean
Geldon

Or something

[mighty zenith]

then neither wins

cause neither exists

[lunar thorn]

Did old terrarians worship the dragons?

[split mortar]

Yeah

Chrysadia had a dragon as its ruler

[lunar thorn]

Ok, I thought I remembered Yharim mention something similar to the word 'heresy' when regarding the priest who would be Xeroc killing the Dragon of Light to become a self-titled god.

Don't remember tho

[clear girder]

is slime god just a slime who consumed an auric soul

[random mulch]

false

they were a person

[split mortar]

They were a person who got turned into a slime

A slime doesnt have the sapience needed to do the ascension ritual
-# also slimegod was likely a femboy

[limpid saddle]

but as of now Slime God is genderfluid

[real silo]

Gender non newtonian liquid

[cosmic zenith]

Deus is not really a God, just a being worshiped as one

[cosmic zenith]

Xeroc didn't keep his old appearance

[pulsar ocean]

why are we calling miracle matter "miracle matter" if theres obviously nothing miraculous there and its science

[limpid saddle]

because the terrarian's a fucking dumbass

thats canon

[cloud ibex]

cause the terrarian is not a scientist and at a certain point of technological advancement science becomes indistinguishable from magic

you don't understand how the hell it works so from your perspective it's basically a miracle

[mighty zenith]

its like its some king of miracle matter....

[pulsar ocean]

the king of miracle matter

[spare pier]

My one exception to "the Terrarian can be whatever you want" is that I draw the line at inherently shitty concepts

And your character being smarter than Draedon is there

[mighty zenith]

and thats why mine is a science nut obsessed with draedon that doesnt know half the shit they're talking about but they really want to be as smart as him

[spare pier]

Even Draedon didn't figure out how to stabilize Miracle Matter, he just says

"Ok I see how you did it"

Like, he understands the process better than you do

Which is why he says "this isn't a miracle dipshit you just did science"

[mighty zenith]

science is just magic disguised as math

[spare pier]

The Demon Core (NOT A REAL DEMON (WE ARE NOT SUMMONING DEMONS))

[gritty kraken]

It’s not an evil mana stone guys

[mighty zenith]

i love that image

[wheat walrus]

I cast gamma rays

[pulsar ocean]

what if you consumed some miracle matter

[mighty zenith]

gamma rays more like

[spare pier]

💥

[mighty zenith]

gays

[limpid saddle]

some really fucked up shit probably

[random mulch]

fun fact: that last thing is real and is called a mercury arc valve

[gritty kraken]

You’re already dead from the life alloy part

[pulsar ocean]

but auric already does that 😡

[spare pier]

I think the funniest part of Miracle Matter is how

[limpid saddle]

either you turn into a tree, die instantaneously, or explode as your cells reform into helium

[spare pier]

The name is cool as shit

[gritty kraken]

Nobody eating scoria bars

[mighty zenith]

it IS part auric

[somber forge]

is yharim homosexual

[mighty zenith]

yes

[limpid saddle]

maybe

[spare pier]

I do think my favorite part of that whole exchange is that despite Draedon thinking the name is stupid as shit

[mighty zenith]

next question

[spare pier]

He still says

"But you figured it out so fair enough you get to name it even if it's dumb"

[pulsar ocean]

is draedon a robot or a cyborg or a living being or was he born mechanical

[mighty zenith]

thats how patents work

[mighty zenith]

artificial intelligence

[somber forge]

homosexual yharim would be sick

[spare pier]

I love Draedon being ultimately being incredibly respectful of science as a whole

[pulsar ocean]

is draedon homosexual

[somber forge]

ofc

[limpid saddle]

If Draedon was just a little bit more of an asshole it would've been named 'Compound A-LA5AB7CB42' or something like that

[split mortar]

Draedon is sciencesexual

[spare pier]

That's something I cared a lot about when writing Draetalk, I wanted his drive to study to seemingly not be motivated solely out of his directives, but also genuine passion

[limpid saddle]

He screams in joy when darwin comes evolving down the chimney every sciencemas

[somber forge]

ah yes. he gets hard whenever he invents something

[pulsar ocean]

can draedon create life can he make his robots have free will is he smart enough to do that

[spare pier]

Calclone is right there

[mighty zenith]

btw reb do you think there were people who treated draedon like a mythical being

[spare pier]

Absolutely

[mighty zenith]

like questioning if he's even real

[limpid saddle]

C.C my beloved

my very undeveloped beloved

[pulsar ocean]

draedon made that?

[spare pier]

Yeah...?

[limpid saddle]

Who the fuck else could've done it???

[gritty kraken]

Draedon when terrarian made something that allow you to teleport to anywhere one want without limit and named it rock of space

[pulsar ocean]

thats crazy i shouldve read the lore thingamajigs after i killed bosses

[mighty zenith]

me i did it

[somber forge]

hear me out. John Cena

[limpid saddle]

[pulsar ocean]

i thought calclone was like a rejected part of cal after she stopped being a levitating eye and became a humanoid

[mighty zenith]

wha

[limpid saddle]

She- she was always a person

[mighty zenith]

scal being an eye isnt canon

[limpid saddle]

she was never a big floating eyeball

like in lore i mean

[pulsar ocean]

what

[limpid saddle]

i know in game she was a big eyeball

[mighty zenith]

she was one 3 years ago but now shes just a person

[limpid saddle]

But in lore she has always been human(?) woman

[pulsar ocean]

so why is her clone an eye

[mighty zenith]

calclone is a human clone inside a machine

the design is just old as shit and looks like an eye

[cloud ibex]

calamity isn't a live service game things that were in the game before but aren't anymore aren't like things that happened Before in-universe

[limpid saddle]

Outdated sprite, but the right now explanation is it's a life-support machine housing the clone

[pulsar ocean]

does that make the infernum cal clone more canon to today's lore

[mighty zenith]

not really no

[limpid saddle]

Ehh

ehhhhh

ehhhh?

kinda

[mighty zenith]

calshadow looks like a fucked up zombie monster which i dont think is the intention with calclone

[limpid saddle]

but yeah not really

[gritty kraken]

What if calclone resprite make her pilot a helicopter or something

[limpid saddle]

I dont really see that inthe design

She just looks more worn, & ragged, & fucked up

which makes sense

Since criminally insane clone housing an anount of power so great it destroyed her psyche

[mighty zenith]

kinda yeah but the red eyes and pitchblack face are more monstrous

scal looks like that when hooded but calshadow doesnt have a hood

shes just like that

[limpid saddle]

me when i fight someone at night & i cant really make out their features

[mighty zenith]

me when none of the other bosses do this...

[pulsar ocean]

i didnt read the lore orbs are cal's brothers like actually her family

[mighty zenith]

yes

[split mortar]

Yes

[mighty zenith]

well

[split mortar]

Zombies

Of her brothers

[mighty zenith]

theyre zombies she brings back through necromancy

[split mortar]

Because they fucking died

[pulsar ocean]

thats what the line about resurrecting someone meant

[limpid saddle]

It does seem as though a part of their souls remain within them though, to serve out their eternal vow to protect their little sister

[limpid saddle]

fuck i think this is like the third time i've said exactly this

[robust osprey]

lmao

yeah they probably keep 0,5% of their memories

that being: protect sily lil sis

[somber forge]

maid calamitas should be canon tbh

[robust osprey]

Die.

[split mortar]

No

[somber forge]

yes

[cloud ibex]

💥💥💥💥💥

don't be weird

[robust osprey]

Scal would burn the maid and you if you give it to her

[somber forge]

im just being real🗿

[gritty kraken]

You know
1 more body add to ravager might actually revive our god this time

[cloud ibex]

don't care

😁

[robust osprey]

let's feed the god of sacrifices

[gritty kraken]

He’s coming back fr this time guys we just need more flesh

[split mortar]

No

[cloud ibex]

that is a pretty funny thought

[robust osprey]

what if we feed melon to ravager

[cloud ibex]

the people who revived the GoS going "no dude trust me our lord needs more bodies"

[robust osprey]

melon = fovos
fovos = really big

trust me this will work

[barren sonnet]

Wrong, giant flipping armored calamitas should be canon

[robust osprey]

I remember someone made an armored Scal

when she was still with yharim

[cloud ibex]

considering iirc her current outfit was made after she left i can imagine her having armor when she was still in service

[cloud ibex]

wonder who'd do something like that

[late veldt]

what did that maid ever do to her????

now on the other hand, she probably wouldn't be too fond if you handed her a maid dress

[robust osprey]

Scal probably thinks the maid is really ugly

[late veldt]

mean

[wheat walrus]

maid calamitas meme already reaching 3 years old

ts being dragged more than low taper fade let it rest

[somber forge]

damn just realized Yharim was somewhat of a good guy

[split mortar]

???

[cloud ibex]

The pipeline

[split mortar]

Elaborate

[somber forge]

well he was doing all of it because of the gods abuse

[cloud ibex]

“There’s lore in this mod?” -> “oh damn Yharim was actually kinda onto something now that I’m thinking about it” - “wait” -> “wait no” -> “oh no.”

[somber forge]

the crusade

[late veldt]

nope

genocide

[cloud ibex]

Natural progression

[split mortar]

Caused half the world to die

[late veldt]

superhitler

[cyan coyote]

Bro is NOT a good guy 🙏

[somber forge]

wait what

[late veldt]

had a child soldier

[somber forge]

hold on i gotta read more of the lore

[robust osprey]

literally a genocidal racist

[somber forge]

to be fair he raised her

[cloud ibex]

They’ll get there eventually just give them a moment

[robust osprey]

would that be uuh...deitism? goddism?

racism against gods

[somber forge]

wait hes racist?😭

[cloud ibex]

Stealing permafrost’s valor

Heartbreaking

[cyan coyote]

Did Yharim still cursed Scal when she left him

[late veldt]

that was Permafrost mostly

[robust osprey]

against gods, and against lihzahrds

[somber forge]

gods were abusive

[cloud ibex]

No

[split mortar]

Gods, elementals and lihzahrds are things he confirmed hates

[split mortar]

Some

[cyan coyote]

Ok good

[robust osprey]

some

[split mortar]

Not all

[robust osprey]

hallow:

[cyan coyote]

+50 rep points

[split mortar]

The hallowed is good gods

[cyan coyote]

He's still 5937 rep points in debt tho

[cloud ibex]

Iirc he was kinda just like “damn that sucks. Unfortunate”

[split mortar]

Thats just the case

[split mortar]

Also that was permafrost

[gritty kraken]

yharim when you ask him for hallow lore item

[somber forge]

ohhhhh

[robust osprey]

uhm erhm what's a hallow?

[somber forge]

damn i love the lore

[cyan coyote]

What did the elementals do to him 😭

[robust osprey]

silva

[split mortar]

Brimmy nuked azafure and so he wanted all if them dead aswell

[robust osprey]

probably

[cloud ibex]

One of them kinda obliterated the first city in the world

[gritty kraken]

• yharimous gulp *

[cloud ibex]

And another one is a goddess

[gritty kraken]

I love my *

[cloud ibex]

That’s two points against them in Yharim’s eyes

[somber forge]

They probably made Yharim lose at fortnite. but who knows

[cyan coyote]

Did brimmy obliterate azafure because she felt like it or because she was awoken

[tropic oak]

i think yharim was right says citizen of azafure

[cloud ibex]

You know what fair I’d be mad too

[cloud ibex]

We don’t really know yet I think

[gritty kraken]

Guys did you know that Yharim planted a lot of seaweed for abyss creatures and made the harsh environment livable
He also made sun less hot too1!1!1!1!

[cyan coyote]

If she destroyed them because they woke her up then I find it reasonable

[somber forge]

both

brimmy kinda bad tho

[gritty kraken]

Death

[cloud ibex]

Don’t.

[gritty kraken]

starve

[cyan coyote]

Dragons are better smh

[cloud ibex]

If either of you start saying weird shit I’m gonna start cracking your kneecaps

[somber forge]

your freakier than me aint no way😭

[cyan coyote]

I'm not gonna act up tan trust

👍

[cloud ibex]

Especially you

[cyan coyote]

I already promised today

[cloud ibex]

You’re already on thin ice

[cyan coyote]

Or was it yesterday

[barren sonnet]

Brimstone elemental is worlds most aggressive morgenmuffel

[cyan coyote]

I got a warn because of my freakiness

[somber forge]

💀

[cloud ibex]

And you do not need to elaborate

Next topic

[somber forge]

ngl i beat brimmy WoF style

[cyan coyote]

I still deeply apologise for it

[somber forge]

i made long ass bridge

[gritty kraken]

drinking Polterghast

[cyan coyote]

Just circle her she's so easy to beat

[somber forge]

ehem.. infernum

[robust osprey]

infernum brimmy is piss easy

[cyan coyote]

I literally beat her like that bro

[cloud ibex]

Lore discussion

[cyan coyote]

Is your point that you have skill issue

[robust osprey]

loreus

[cyan coyote]

My bad my glorious king

[gritty kraken]

Was ravager an azafurian

[cyan coyote]

Probably not

[gritty kraken]

Like Pre ravaging

[split mortar]

We dunno

[somber forge]

brimmy harder than Scal😭

idk why

[cyan coyote]

Oh my god you do have skill issue 😭

[gritty kraken]

nvm azafure provided a bunch of things for yharim to kill gods 💔

[robust osprey]

lore accurate guys fr

[somber forge]

idk im used to bullet hell stuff

but brimmy built diffrent

[gritty kraken]

Post ml Brimmy today

[cloud ibex]

Lore discussion

[split mortar]

We are discussioning lore

[gritty kraken]

Deep fried Bloodstone

[cyan coyote]

I got no topics to talk about grah

[somber forge]

wonder what aquatic scourge tasted like

[gritty kraken]

lemon

[cloud ibex]

Then don’t talk about anything i guess

[robust osprey]

other channels:

[cyan coyote]

Sulfur

[cloud ibex]

[dusk laurel]

not this again

[cloud ibex]

Channels don’t need constant activity

[robust osprey]

not good probably

sulphurous fish

[cyan coyote]

AS def tastes like acid and sulfur

[cloud ibex]

Dreaded circle of samsara

[tepid timber]

Scourge is a sea creature so it probably fucking sucked

[gritty kraken]

Each messages multiply our wealth by 0.9 think about that

[late veldt]

not good

[cloud ibex]

So you should talk less so you don’t lose as much money

[somber forge]

maybe pan friend.. add some salt and pepper.. maybe some MSG aswell.. for more flavor you can add Star anise.. and some cloves.. after just serve hot and add shrimp paste with vinegar and use the mandibles for garnish

[tepid timber]

I hate sea food

[somber forge]

shi prolly tastes good

[gritty kraken]

the joke is bad math

[somber forge]

its good if you add sauce

[tepid timber]

No

[somber forge]

i too hate bland fish

[cyan coyote]

Genuine question