lore-discussion

[limpid saddle]

for some reason

[mighty zenith]

kidney stones

[twilit heron]

Guys I’m getting canceled I misgendered the fat sea monster

[mighty zenith]

but like

stomach stones?

idk

[twilit heron]

I think it’s mud

[limpid saddle]

have you seen how big those are they cannot fit down his throat

[dusk laurel]

meatballs

[limpid saddle]

why do they pulsate & look like they're on fire

[mighty zenith]

[twilit heron]

This.

[mighty zenith]

banned...

[dusk laurel]

misgendered...

[mighty zenith]

how dare u misgender the fat fuck crocodile whale

[twilit heron]

Leviathan is just an Italian

[split mortar]

Nintendo about to sue calamity :(

[light linden]

polyflare

[dusk laurel]

kills you

[twilit heron]

See devs this is how lore works, you either make the lore yourself or the community makes their own stupid lore which they now refuse to accept isn’t canon

He’s just a big fat Italian vomiting meatballs at you

[dusk laurel]

[cloud ibex]

wrong

there's a third option, and that's the fromsoft route

[twilit heron]

What’s the fromsoft route

[cloud ibex]

never explain jack shit, have everything buried in item descriptions, have a boss named some shit like Gormtosser of Regret who says "zanzibart.... forgive me....." when he dies

[twilit heron]

Oh so FNAF

[light linden]

@spare pierhey can I ask a question about providence?

[split mortar]

Yes

[twilit heron]

Huh

[cloud ibex]

you'll have people making hour long video essays about how incredible your story is

[split mortar]

?

[twilit heron]

Nothing just

[spare pier]

Go on

[cloud ibex]

no no you still have to actually explain it in some form

[light linden]

ok ty

are they still supposed to be a moth?

[twilit heron]

Meant “oh so fnaf. Huh

[twilit heron]

We are not re enacting the Embrace the Void ending in Terraria

[spare pier]

Not really

[mighty zenith]

no fromsoft games have like actual confirmed information

[light linden]

ok ty

I'm tryna write stuff for my add-on and wanted to make sure before I write this

[cloud ibex]

but that explanation should be incredibly obtuse and vague requiring you to have a jimmy neutron brain blast moment when you finally realize that the Gormtosser was actually the dear friend of Zanzibart, the final boss, until their friendship was broken when the Gormtosser could no longer stand for all the shit Zanzibart was doing as ruler of the kingdom

there's probably some fromsoft character who fits this description

[split mortar]

Yharim and permafrost

[mighty zenith]

tru

[cloud ibex]

you know what fair

and calamity lore is basically dark souls so close enough

[spare pier]

From Soft games moreso require some weird shit for you to actually figure it out and most of the time they won't spell it out for you through cutscenes or whatever. It's always put in dialogue and item descriptions, the only exception I can think of is Bayle's shtick

Where an NPC just

Tells you his entire story

[cloud ibex]

yeah bayle is the exception where one guy puts his entire fucking soul into yelling his backstory at you

[spare pier]

And of course all of their stories have some gaps with no clear confirmation of what exactly happened

[cloud ibex]

still so funny to me that apparently igon was the voice actor's first role in a video game

[spare pier]

Bro secured 50 years of work

[limpid saddle]

[limpid saddle]

Possibly Havel The Rock

Guy that comes to mind immideatly

Sealed within the tower of the undead burg for crafting a plot to betray his dear friend, war-time compatriot & God Of Sunlight Gywn with the use of Cursed tools, for currently unknown reasons, though a fan interpretation is that he realised what an eternal Age Of Fire would mean for humanity (dooming them to the eternal cycle of light & dark while the Undead Curse haunts man for the rest of it's days) & sought to assassinate the Gods to prevent this

but he fucked up, got locked up, & went crazy & or starved to death

[snow mountain]

MY MAIN MAN SEATH THE SCALELESS

[limpid saddle]

He doesn't really match the description but you can have favourites

[sinful adder]

Igon is hilarious

CUUURSE YOUUU BAAAYLEEEE

[tepid timber]

Gwyn and havel

[limpid saddle]

🐌

[humble fog]

if yharim fought one (1) bee who would win

[pliant ruin]

idk man ever been stung by a bee? i think yharims in for a wild ride

[sleek halo]

i like to imagine the auric armror wouldn’t reject the bee

[cosmic zenith]

If there's something this series taught me, is that you don't fuck around with bees

[opaque crescent]

was brimstone elemental the one to destroy azafure?
i always thought calamitas did it, and brimstone elemental was sorta like a minecraft iron golem, defending the city

[dusk laurel]

the reverse

with cal defending the city and brimmy destroying

[eager bluff]

they both destroyed it

was a team effort

[glacial rampart]

kingdragon sends his regards...

[tepid timber]

Additionally yhorm and siegward

[timid lotus]

calamitas and brimmy faught and as colateral damage the cit ywas destroyed

[robust osprey]

brimmy's objective was kill the city

and she was kinda

inmume

to Scal

[timid lotus]

u guys should add post scal gfb boss called "bee"

[robust osprey]

so yeah

[pliant ruin]

as others have said it was both of them

brimmy awoke in a fury and started destroying azafure, cal, who, at the time, was a child, tried to protect her family but in doing so awoke uncontrollable power within her and ended up destroying just as much as the one she was trying to fight

[opaque crescent]

oh wow
thanks, i only knew like half the story before, but this gives me a little more insight🦐

[light linden]

just hit me

[magic epoch]

sorry

[light linden]

y'all think fog during the acid rain is radioactive?

[magic epoch]

is fog confirmed to even exist

[light linden]

or even in the sulphurous sea in general?

[magic epoch]

if it did i could imagine it could be

[eager bluff]

astralachnea bestiary entry says the underground astral is full of fog so

also. ecto mist

[manic coral]

i mean

you literally see it

it is actively hazy down there

it's the fillter that happens

[late veldt]

how the hell does the player not die of the 100000 carcinogens in the air of half the biomes anyways

[manic coral]

easy

dont breathe

:/

duh

[late veldt]

ah makes sense

the breath meter in water is actually the wetness meter, the player can hold their breath indefinitely but dies of sensory overload from being too wet

[eager bluff]

well yeah if you go into the underground astral

which i dont

[tidal tulip]

the terrarian's healing factor will never cease to amaze me

health pots being insta healers is also equally as crazy

[sleek halo]

stops breathing

and fucking dies

[deft vessel]

You are saying that about the guy that can drink water to not drown

[sinful adder]

Stupid idea: terrarians don't need to breathe, they instead inhale and exhale as a form of cooling, and they can't do that with liquids or it damages their insides

[humble fog]

so then why do you not drown in lava

and drown faster in cold water

[sinful adder]

Good question. Nevermind then

[subtle geyser]

how many terrarians are there canonically?

[split mortar]

We dont know since theres other sapient species so the 300 million (20% global population) that yharim killed isnt just terrarians so we dunno precisely
-# unless all sapient species counts as terrarian, then its 1.2 billion since yharim killed off 300 million

[subtle geyser]

I meant more so how many player characters there could be

because draedon says by the time he finds another person like us yharim would've died of old age

[split mortar]

Lore wise i guess only one player character then?

But the terrarian is ultimately up to you being your character you call the shots

So you could make multiplayer canon

[tidal tulip]

jesus fucking christ

[subtle geyser]

I wonder if this is the right channel to ask this but if you are to attempt kill me terrarians then tell me more about yourself (ooc if you write lore for your characters when you play tell me I want to hear it)

[mighty zenith]

roleplaying smh

[subtle geyser]

it's funny I get to give people biased answers about lore things

plus I'm extremely bored

[split mortar]

What

[tidal tulip]

The blood on Yharim's hands is insane

That's all

[split mortar]

Yeah

This where it was said

When you enter a world wide war genocide with multiple sentient reusable nukes as your highest level guys at some point…

Yeah you tend to reach a absurd amount of people dead

[mighty zenith]

yet theres still people who think yharim was made softer in new lore

[snow mountain]

old lore made no sense tbh

[subtle geyser]

In what world is he softer? he's just more realistically written

[mighty zenith]

exactly

because he doesnt insult and make fun of you constantly or start wars for no reason hes softer

apparently

[subtle geyser]

and honestly I relate very heavily to current yharim

rather than old yharim being a comically evil asshole

he's literally me for real for real on god

[snow mountain]

🐴

uh oh

[subtle geyser]

🐴

[split mortar]

[mighty zenith]

[snow mountain]

no..?

[mighty zenith]

how exactly

[snow mountain]

ends justify the means is never a sustainable ethos

most of the time

[subtle geyser]

you just saying "no..?" is hilarious

the wording

[mighty zenith]

i like yharim as a character but like

i cant call him relatable

[subtle geyser]

I could ramble for hours but I'd be going on about my personal life rather than calamity lore

[snow mountain]

anyway petrichor's occultist low-diffs calamitas, and I will not iterate on this until later notice

[mighty zenith]

[dusk laurel]

[snow mountain]

occultist has the power of gambling

god bless the philosopher's stone

[split mortar]

Just burn the casinos

[snow mountain]

magic gambling smh

[subtle geyser]

tldr: I fucked over and was just an ass to some of the closest people to me/being a generally bad person/"the ends justify the means"

[split mortar]

Just burn the magic casinos

[subtle geyser]

gamble your child's college fund away

[mighty zenith]

[snow mountain]

😶

[subtle geyser]

I mean yeah sure I would want to be better I'm working on it but I can't really tell if I am getting better in fact I knew I was an asshole for the longest time but I didn't really care only recently have I started getting introspective about it

I haven't massacred people though

still need to figure that part out

[mighty zenith]

realizing your mistakes is a step forward

[subtle geyser]

I know it just takes a while

also I'm taller than everyone I know so just put some heels in the armor so I can cosplay the guy better

I don't know why but his armor reads like it has heels to me

I'd get a picture of why I think so but I can't send pictures in this chat

[mighty zenith]

ehh his design doesnt convey that

he seems to just be that insanely tall

[subtle geyser]

he is tall but cei has stated that the armor adds some height

[dusk laurel]

some is pretty vague

[subtle geyser]

I'll send a pic in media of what I mean

[dusk laurel]

Yharim's concept art can be seen in a pinned message 'calamity mod reference' i think

[subtle geyser]

#general-media message

[dusk laurel]

that's an outdated design

[subtle geyser]

ohh I forgot about the redisign

[dusk laurel]

here #lore-discussion message

[subtle geyser]

honestly I don't really like the redesign

at all but that's just me

it just feels like all the detail was taken out of it

[dusk laurel]

i son't vibe with the old design tbh

[subtle geyser]

and he doesn't look tall proportionally he just looks like an upscaled dude

[dusk laurel]

he looks like a twig (not much of a complaint and more just a personal nitpick)

[subtle geyser]

that's he's 8 feet tall

he's probably more muscular than the average body builder he just has a bigger frame to fill out

to be fair to me this is peak yharim design

https://x.com/Haydenator888/status/1762678697545617794

like this is the best deisgn I've found of him ever

[mighty zenith]

honestly thats my main issue with the old design

there's TOO MUCH shit

[subtle geyser]

to me I like that it's terraria he's gonna have a fuck ton of shit on him

[mighty zenith]

ive seen many people having to simplify it for drawing and stuff because of how much unnecessary detail there is

[subtle geyser]

but the new design looks so undetailed

plus to me they took all the cool parts out

[mighty zenith]

i think its fine personally

except the helmet, the old one was much better

[subtle geyser]

the old helmet is iconic

that's one of the main reasons I dislike the new design

[tidal tulip]

I've seen that before and I agree that's insanely good

[mighty zenith]

okay but look at scal

her design is way simpler

and its great

[subtle geyser]

to me yharim should have a fuck ton of shit on because he's a parallel to the player character

[mighty zenith]

is he though

[subtle geyser]

pretty much

[mighty zenith]

can he be a parallel to the player? since you know

theres no concrete terrarian

[dusk laurel]

[mighty zenith]

yes thank you

[subtle geyser]

I know but that's the way he comes off to me

[subtle geyser]

but yeah this is peak yharim to me

[mighty zenith]

he can be a parallel to your terrarian but that doesnt make him a parallel to every terrarian

[dusk laurel]

It's because he's trying to mold you to become a godseeker just like him

[subtle geyser]

I know I know

[limpid saddle]

No I think this guy has a point

The whole idea is the idea is Yharim is a human, just like you & me

[subtle geyser]

I know it's just he fits the vibe of a player character since he came from the ground up and gain more power like the main gameplay loop of terraria

[limpid saddle]

Cause no matter what your fanon is, the Terrarian is you, they are a human being, & Yharim is too

[mighty zenith]

[dusk laurel]

[limpid saddle]

Yharim started off with a dragon, we started off with bricks & some weird magic sticks

[dusk laurel]

let me reiterate this

YOU decide the lore of the terrarian

[limpid saddle]

He just got a bounce pad to get farther faster

[dusk laurel]

which means you can be a fish person

or anything really

the terrarian isn't you, it can be you

[subtle geyser]

it's more so that yharim seems like he could be the player character that he went through a similiar journey to what you play through gaining power all the way through

[limpid saddle]

we gotta fucking reign this shit in man

[subtle geyser]

reign?

[dusk laurel]

say that again....

[mighty zenith]

[subtle geyser]

reign of yharim??????

[limpid saddle]

because we have so little about our protaganist they could Starlight von Darkedge, the daughter of Xeroc & Silva, or Carl, a very confused local fisherman

[subtle geyser]

that's the fun of it

[mighty zenith]

yeah ok i get that

[subtle geyser]

you get to write it

[mighty zenith]

but i dont get how that explains him being overdesigned to hell

[limpid saddle]

have you looked at the typical terrarian fit

they are bloated with accessories

[dusk laurel]

you could just headcanon them out of existance

[subtle geyser]

first I don't think he's overdesigned and second yeah accessories but instead they're built into his auric armor

[dusk laurel]

or just, turn them off visually

[subtle geyser]

real that's what I do

[mighty zenith]

esp considering a lot of accessories arent even visible

[limpid saddle]

That's the coward's choice

also really weird

why would

[dusk laurel]

some accessories are small as shit

[limpid saddle]

why would you make a headcanon to deny the existence of a central game mechanic

[subtle geyser]

but yeah he's not overdesigned

at all to me

[limpid saddle]

I concur

[dusk laurel]

because youre not limited to the confines of the game?

[mighty zenith]

whatever. go my scarab

[limpid saddle]

he looks cool & i like his weird bird feet on that design

[mighty zenith]

you can enjoy the old design im not gonna stop u

i just prefer the new one mostly

[subtle geyser]

I as john yharim concur that if you disagree with me I punch you in the face

[dusk laurel]

also, accessories are anomalies in of themselves
what the fuck is a nucleogenesis or nanotech

[mighty zenith]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1145755710974611538/1148657489122951198/speed-6.gif

[limpid saddle]

A very cursed cosmic generator

[dusk laurel]

you could say that accessories are just, not called that but actual parts of your design

[limpid saddle]

Guess it makes mana or

cosmic horrors

[dusk laurel]

again, you dont have to confine yourself to terraria when headacanoning

[limpid saddle]

possibly both

[subtle geyser]

so you're saying that you can send a gif but the average person can't? an ability that only mods have a divine ability even? I'm gonna seek all over you

[mighty zenith]

why dont u seek some bitches

[subtle geyser]

I'm actually with someone

[glacial rampart]

whats the new yharim design anyway

[mighty zenith]

[subtle geyser]

you're insult doesn't affect me

fool

[mighty zenith]

minor spelling mistake

i win...

[dusk laurel]

you are insult

[subtle geyser]

wait fuck

[dusk laurel]

to your family

[subtle geyser]

[glacial rampart]

can someone show ... pls ,,

[subtle geyser]

can't send images

[random mulch]

newest yharim design is in pins

[limpid saddle]

he looks like a brick wall painted yellow & blue but in a not very good way

[subtle geyser]

yes

[dusk laurel]

i really dont see that

[random mulch]

there's an imgur link containing a bunch of concept art

[glacial rampart]

why change the helmet...

[mighty zenith]

because hes actually bulky?

[subtle geyser]

he doesn't even look tal

he looks like a scaled up person

old yharim design makes him look tall proportionally

[glacial rampart]

i like this design

but why change the helmet,,

[limpid saddle]

he can have bulk but that's like, chulk

[mighty zenith]

yeah thats the part i dont get

[subtle geyser]

it doesn't make him look tall

[random mulch]

dont give it too much mind for now, lilac's already said she bit off more than she could chew and yharim is years away anyways

[mighty zenith]

yeah that too

its still just concept art

[limpid saddle]

There needs to be some middle line we can tow

[subtle geyser]

yeah but I like argueing

[mighty zenith]

i hate YOU

[mighty zenith]

[dusk laurel]

💥

[subtle geyser]

this is perfection https://x.com/Haydenator888/status/1762678697545617794

[limpid saddle]

Because old design looks really lean, but actually tall, he's menacing

[subtle geyser]

peak yharim design

[subtle geyser]

That's what I'm sayin

[limpid saddle]

New design is just a short stubby wall

[subtle geyser]

EXACTLY

[mighty zenith]

im ngl i think its the pose

its really passive

also different angle in general

[subtle geyser]

also why did they give yharim such a fat ass

[limpid saddle]

also chat do you guys think his flaming red hair is actually his or do you think it's part of the armor

[mighty zenith]

[limpid saddle]

i think the former

[dusk laurel]

real hair

[limpid saddle]

[mighty zenith]

plume

because i imagine him as a burnt body

[random mulch]

#general-media message
she's already posted some sketches before with more dynamic posing and yharim looks a bit better

[subtle geyser]

I mean I'd rather not have to dye my hair if I do a cosplay so my bias tells me to say plume

[mighty zenith]

i like the idea that he never bothered fixing himself up because his existence is now defined by his armor

[limpid saddle]

I think he has burn scars streaking up his face but the lava never got 100% there so it's like his jaw & around his cheekbones are seared but his hair is still all natural

[mighty zenith]

oh damn i missed that

yeah no it's 100% the pose

this looks sick

[subtle geyser]

unfinished can't tell if it'll look good or not

[dusk laurel]

the outline is clearly visible tho

[subtle geyser]

I like the idea that he has like half of his face burnt off

[subtle geyser]

it just doesn't look like yharim to me though

[limpid saddle]

yeah i was thinking like metal jaw

y'know like cyberpunk

[subtle geyser]

if someone thinks of yharim they think of the old design

[mighty zenith]

disagree there

its very clearly yharim in the art

[subtle geyser]

I haven't seen a single fan art of the new design

[mighty zenith]

the important details are visible

[mighty zenith]

makes sense

[subtle geyser]

HE DOESN'T EVEN HAVE THE SAME HELMET!!!

[mighty zenith]

old one has had years to spread around

[dusk laurel]

yeah

it had enough time to ingrain itself in people's heads

[subtle geyser]

old one is just peak

I just don't like the redesign at all

[mighty zenith]

yes we've figured that out

[subtle geyser]

it's fine yeah

but it's not yharim to me

to be fair by the time yharim comes out he'll probably have been redesigned 5 more times

[mighty zenith]

probably

[dusk laurel]

why does it look like he has auric plating over another set of armor rather than it being primarily auric to me

im convinced a metal bat could be enough to break the armor in the old design

[subtle geyser]

I just don't see that

[mighty zenith]

dont think this is going anywhere then

one side sees issues, the other doesnt and vice versa

[dusk laurel]

Yeah

[random mulch]

personally i like both of the older designs but the first is very overdesigned for a pixel game and the other makes him look more like a robot

[subtle geyser]

nah I'm always right and can never be wrong

[split mortar]

Stabs you

[mighty zenith]

[dusk laurel]

wtfrick melon gun is alive

[split mortar]

?

[glacial rampart]

what the actual fuck

[dusk laurel]

kills you

[subtle geyser]

[mighty zenith]

[split mortar]

Is that just the entire meet the scout in a emote

[dusk laurel]

insane

[subtle geyser]

I need those emojis

[glacial rampart]

why do you have these, garbo

[mighty zenith]

[glacial rampart]

sto p

[mighty zenith]

ok

[cosmic minnow]

This is worse than brainrot

The voices are getting louder

Why is this everywhere

Why do people think it’s funny

[dusk laurel]

blame melon gun

it's ingrained in this channel's dna now

[mighty zenith]

its the reason you cant post images

[dusk laurel]

yep

[mighty zenith]

(kinda)

[cosmic minnow]

…. Hell no

[split mortar]

I did no such thing…

[dusk laurel]

i dont care if there are image perms or not or if people dont like the image because i didnt spam post it like a certain somebody

[random mulch]

yham

[cosmic minnow]

Im

[cloud ibex]

Chat what are your thoughts on yharmy soldiers helmets being modeled after yharim’s

[cosmic minnow]

Yaim

[split mortar]

🔥

[mighty zenith]

cool

[dusk laurel]

i can see that

[glacial rampart]

pale reflections of true auric might

[cosmic minnow]

Kinda boring design decision

[glacial rampart]

its cool af tho

[glacial rampart]

outvoted

perish

[random mulch]

the higher rank someone is in the yharmy the more their army resembles yharim's

[median helm]

Does Yharim have wings? Was he poem-ing his ass off in the first lore item?

[cosmic minnow]

People when other people have different opinions

[random mulch]

low soldiers just look like soldiers and godseeker knights look look more yharim-y

[cloud ibex]

He always is

[cosmic minnow]

Aight bruh

[median helm]

So he does not have wings...? 🥹

[snow mountain]

the terrarian is a hobo turned landlord

[cloud ibex]

Not that we know of

[random mulch]

yharim is the best kind of character

[glacial rampart]

completely right! and justified!

[random mulch]

in a world with magic n' ridiculous abilities, there's just the guy who punches people to death

[glacial rampart]

he told me so!

[glacial rampart]

rock lee type shit

[cloud ibex]

Nergigante type shit

[split mortar]

Hits you so hard your cells nuclear fission

[cosmic minnow]

Why does he make that face

[glacial rampart]

nick cage

[cosmic minnow]

Hear me out. It would make yharim more unique if only he had that helmet with its hair

[dusk laurel]

i mean, yharim kinda has a cult of personality

[snow mountain]

he has that aura yknow

[dusk laurel]

his soldiers would want to resemble their idol

[cosmic minnow]

So they are fanboys

/women

[snow mountain]

i read that as femboys

[cosmic minnow]

…

[dusk laurel]

same 😭

[random mulch]

imagine primarily using a sword when you can evict someone from reality with a single punch

[cloud ibex]

The reason I asked is cause I’ve been drawing SCal if she locked the fuck in and specced into armor instead of shields, and thought it’d be a neat visual through line if her helmet resembled his

[mighty zenith]

its called aura farming

[cloud ibex]

But his helmet is still different cause his armor has all that exo tech bullshit going on

I imagined the rest of the yharmy didn’t necessarily get that treatment

[cosmic minnow]

Every day I dream of a Calamitas in her glory

And not a failure

[snow mountain]

femboy army

this is now canon

[random mulch]

honestly i when the auric armor resprite was mentioned i was kinda hoping that it wouldnt just be mini yharim armor

[bold dragon]

Is there anything about calamity lore

That i can read

[snow mountain]

check pins

[random mulch]

there's an entire doc in the pins

[dusk laurel]

apart from melee having some similarities i dont think it is

beloved mage auric

[bold dragon]

Is there any caelus version of explanation

[snow mountain]

you what

why mention the roman god??

[bold dragon]

The caelus i mean is in star rail

[random mulch]

i meant the technological look, with the grey metal & black secondary colors and the glowing blue highlight color

[snow mountain]

???

[dusk laurel]

Ok then yeah i kinda agree

[random mulch]

and the red plume and the blue/purple cloth

[bold dragon]

There's one scene where i tried to get explanation for amphoreus lore in the game and then the game give me an option to explain it in different way

[snow mountain]

this vexes me

[bold dragon]

I need that kind of explanation

[cloud ibex]

If SCal when she was still a soldier counts then you’re in luck

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/404775224106811412/1347282871752196116/image.png?ex=67cbeb33&is=67ca99b3&hm=6ea8de7b6fe53a872a0e3ac3cf1707c764473dae1305b1416c969865f1561c61&

[cosmic minnow]

Fire

Literally

[random mulch]

if i tried my hand at redesigning auric armor i'd want to give it a vibe more similar to knight armor

[dusk laurel]

it should have some dragon themes too

since it's basically just dragon metal armor

[random mulch]

something to contrast the fact that yharim's armor isnt just auric

[bold dragon]

So do u guys got it

[snow mountain]

this is so fucking real

[cloud ibex]

I was debating between having her dual wield vehemence and idk Sacrifice or something but I landed on giving her Violence cause it felt easier to draw

[mighty zenith]

i mean thats basically what the lore document does

[bold dragon]

Oh well time to get my bedtime stories

[random mulch]

it being a more simple "standard" armor would also contrast nicely with demonshade and exo armor

[snow mountain]

'and then john calamity immolated everyone in the sunken sea; the end'

[mighty zenith]

yharim unalived 300 million people

[snow mountain]

rookie numbers smh smh

[dusk laurel]

dragon knight armor would go hard for auric

[snow mountain]

ornstein...

[dusk laurel]

dark sole

[snow mountain]

its insane how yharim and yharon only have their names because fabsol played ds3 around the same time

just look at the cut content

[random mulch]

oh wait right i can draw

[cloud ibex]

Bloodborne

[snow mountain]

yhorm as well

shoutout to my main man yhorm

[green bay]

What happened to her limbs

[cloud ibex]

Don’t exist yet

[green bay]

😦

[snow mountain]

eated it all ,,

scrumptious

[green bay]

This is so calamitous

[random mulch]

any ideas anyone wants to give for a non-tech auric armor?

[dusk laurel]

i think it could do with some signs that show that the armor is made from dead dragons

[random mulch]

any "signs" in specific?

[dusk laurel]

maybe like scales and the helmet being modelled after a dragon's head

[clear girder]

were all of the gods Yharim killed bad people?

or did he just see all of them as terrible people

[magic epoch]

latter

there were definitely good gods

[split mortar]

The hallowed is made of good gods so uh

The entire existence of that is proof he just killed gods no matter if they were good or not he saw them as worthy of death

[random mulch]

there's a reason yharim never comments on the hallowed

[deft vessel]

Bad pr

[wheat walrus]

rathalos

[split mortar]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1079606700954357863/1079626505858072687/attachment.gif

[near plank]

If they were good why did they kill and absorb the auric souls of dragons

[wheat walrus]

nargacuga

[split mortar]

Dragons arent always good themselves

And what if the god was given consent to ascend

[wheat walrus]

draedon's plaguebringer goliath vs the wilds final boss 🙏

[near plank]

No dragon would consent to being killed

[split mortar]

Proof?

[near plank]

There were little dragons left in the world after fighting ml I'm sure they wanted to live to preserve their kind

[wheat walrus]

they would or else the absorber of the soul would be sentenced to prison,

well yesterday I was reading through Draetalk

Draedon is curious about why the dragons didn't stay in the Aerie while their kind was being culled for auric souls

since the aerie works like a sort of pocket dimension type-thing or at least has a veil covering it from conventional space

one that not even Draedon could access

so he asked himself why did the dragons just leave the aerie when it could've given them their safety

[split mortar]

Maybe the dragon may think that the person they want to ascend is better with the power then potentially having a bad person ascend in the future

[near plank]

Actually why did the gods throw yharon's egg into the lava

[wheat walrus]

yharon's egg, idk, but the people who casted yharim into the lava likely didn't know of yharon's egg's properties, at least not wholly enough

maybe it could've fell unintentionally too

or idk

it depends

[near plank]

They would have been at least smart enough to realize they could just wait for it to hatch and then have someone else absorb the soul

[split mortar]

Yharim grabbed the egg right before the cultists threw him in maybe who knows

[wheat walrus]

Yharim was wanted as a godking, probably because he was good for it, I assume the idea is that maybe Yharon was soon to hatch and they wanted no issues with it so they wanted to spawnkill him with lava, that backfired as we can see

[near plank]

Wasting an auric soul is so dumb

[wheat walrus]

it wouldn't have been a waste

[split mortar]

Yharon would still revuve

And also

[wheat walrus]

Yharon is the rebirth dragon for a reason

[split mortar]

Yharon is strong

[wheat walrus]

they're spawnkilling him, but he will revive as an egg elsewhere

basically they're saving time with that

[near plank]

Yeah but why would they want to kill yharon when he was still an egg if they knew he was gonna just rebirth

[split mortar]

Delay them hatching

[wheat walrus]

because if yharon just hatched there and then, we know what happened, they got beaten up badly

[split mortar]

Yharon could like

Escape

[wheat walrus]

yes

[split mortar]

Like they did

[wheat walrus]

the idea is that if they kill Yharon before it hatches, they are basically just keeping it as an egg and saving time for themselves since when the egg hatches, Yharon would most likely try to fight back and win that fight

[near plank]

They could have made the craziest omelet in the world with that egg

[split mortar]

The egg was close to hatching anyways

Maybe breaking them out would just result in yharon trying to escape anyways

[near plank]

Baby yharon wouldn't be strong enough to kill a God that isn't the slime god

[split mortar]

We dunno how strong the gods were

[wheat walrus]

as for the auric soul, I assume it's likely still in the egg and I assume they wanted Yharim to absorb it like that

when Yharim refused, they decided to kill him and also kill Yharon's egg to "reset the time Yharon spends as an egg" you could say, but they weren't aware that the magma's heat only accelerated the egg's hatching and if anything would empower Yharon, so Yharon burst out of lava quickly, saved Yharim and destroyed the people there

[split mortar]

Could be on the weaker end for all we know

[wheat walrus]

well, 1, would you know the actual power of Yharon after hatching?
2, we know Yharon did beat up the people that were there, that's why the crusade happens in the first place

[split mortar]

Trying to set yharon back to egg seems to be the most safe option for them to bide time

Sadly for them magma increased hatching speed

[wheat walrus]

and 3, we don't know if there was a god or not protecting the people throwing Yharim into the lava when that was done, they likely took on the gods later

[near plank]

Another question why does ares have a skull for no reason

[wheat walrus]

cool

[near plank]

I mean yeah it is cool

[split mortar]

They also have a spine and pelvis iirc

[near plank]

Oh

[split mortar]

Like
Might just be intimidation

Dont think its explained

Well the biggest explanation is that its based of skeletron prime

And thats it

[pulsar ocean]

where was yharim during the time we were beating up his pet

[random mulch]

still vibing on the aerie

like he's been doing for a couple months

[split mortar]

Yharim is in the aerie from before the game starts and doesn’t leave

[pulsar ocean]

lazy ahh

[cloud ibex]

he doesn't have a pet

[frozen zodiac]

how big was yharon when he burst out from his egg

the size of the chicken nugget pet?

[scenic olive]

i imagine the egg is very big

[robust osprey]

big enough to save yharim from a pit of lava

[manic coral]

am working on a thing i've been meaning to for a lil bit now

will just leave it's description i have right now here

A somewhat charred audio log left behind just outside the city of Azafure.
Whatever was recorded on it has been left unintelligible due to the damage it’s taken.
There does, however, seem to be an automatically-made transcript of what was said.
Hopefully that’s still intact. Press left click while holding it to take a closer look…

[tepid timber]

Lore channel is lore-ing

[gritty kraken]

Hit a little different after I reads all pearls dialogues in rainworld

[wheat walrus]

lorious

[limpid saddle]

It's so lore...

[scenic olive]

it said

"please delete my internet history"

[gritty kraken]

Five nights at azafure

[magic zenith]

Who would win in a fight, omni man or calamitas?

[manic coral]

hydrogen bomb vs. coughing baby

[magic zenith]

K

Invincible vs calamitas

[manic coral]

invincible is literally as strong as omni man at the point the show is at

[magic zenith]

Not prime invincible

Let's say hmmmm...

First omni man invincible fight

Invincible at this point of the story

[manic coral]

he still wins probably

[magic zenith]

||he becomes strongest being in the universe by the end of the comic||

[manic coral]

oh am aware

just most people tlak about the show when they mention it

not the comics

[magic zenith]

What about Eve vs calamitas

[manic coral]

but yeah idk at the end of the day the ebst calamitas can do is incinerate half a sea over the course of less than a week

usew that as a frame of reference

[near plank]

Hi are you the one who wrote the lore for yharon and yharim

[magic zenith]

Yes i am

[real silo]

it was written by evil cei

[manic coral]

no i just like the music sorry

(yes what's up)

[near plank]

I have a question
Why did the gods throw yharon's egg into the lava

[late veldt]

Im imagining Calamitas still shits on like. Homelander. right?

[magic zenith]

They wanted a boiled egg yummy yum yum

[near plank]

Instead of just having someone else absorb his auric soul

[manic coral]

reasons that will be more clear at a later point

[split mortar]

Ah so its secret

[manic coral]

idk, not interested too much in The Boys

[late veldt]

Maybe Yharim was just That Busted

[late veldt]

Fair enough

[magic zenith]

She definitely kills homelander

[near plank]

Buddy this is homelander even hello kitty solos him

[manic coral]

again, base it off of this ig

[magic zenith]

Homelander is not even moonlord level

[split mortar]

Homelander is like
Mech boss level iirc

[near plank]

Homelander isn't even SLIME GOD level

[limpid saddle]

@wheat walrus OMNI, I SUMMON YOU

[late veldt]

Like I know Yharim would absolutely shit on Milk Superman but I still wonder how many other bosses would fuck him up

[limpid saddle]

ANSWER OUR QUERIES

[wheat walrus]

what queries

[late veldt]

Homander

[split mortar]

Homelander isnt even town level i hear so decently far below deus

[wheat walrus]

homander

uhhh

[manic coral]

but from what i've seen homleander isn't actually THAT weak, it's just become so common that people trying to powerscale use outliers to make characters scale to shitballsversal via things that weren't intended by the author at all and don't make sense with the story

[wheat walrus]

isn't that guy like city block level

[split mortar]

Yeah…

[wheat walrus]

cause that's the scaling I use for terraria explosives breaking a lot of blocks roughly

so idk

[magic zenith]

Homelander was killed by a crowbar in comic, what else can be said

[split mortar]

So homelander is dynamite level…

[manic coral]

i mena if so then yeah calamitas wins for sure

[wheat walrus]

I think he can do well in pre-hardmode but don't expect me to say he can take on WoF and beyond very well

[late veldt]

Gordon Freeman

[manic coral]

considering yharim can literally punch a dude so hard they get atomized

[magic zenith]

Huh

[split mortar]

So i was quite close when saying mech boss level…

[dawn vigil]

homelander would get eaten alive by anything post moonlord because of https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Planetary_Annihilation

[manic coral]

and like relasiitcally that'd be like, what

[near plank]

Oh I also have another question
What is the state of calamitas's brothers
It says she failed at resurrecting them so like are they zombies in her fight?

[manic coral]

low city level at most, i guess?

[dawn vigil]

PML is planetary at minimum not even considering ranger fire rate

[wheat walrus]

unless Calamitas is caught offguard she's literally just deleting Homelander

[wheat walrus]

😭

[split mortar]

What about the bow?

[dawn vigil]

name

[manic coral]

you're joking right

[split mortar]

Nope ml is like base city

[magic zenith]

A better question still is how far does Omniman scales in cal universe

[wheat walrus]

"ires a storm of 7 arrows from the sky
Wooden arrows are converted into homing energy bolts"

not even the tooltip is planet level bro

[manic coral]

brb gonna go buy a sword and name it Universe Eraser

[limpid saddle]

bro thats...thats just what it's called... it's not a signifier of strength it just sounds cool...

[dawn vigil]

i was about to say dev intention was 4 it to be planet but you are a dev so lol

[wheat walrus]

and using names for scaling is just nominal fallacy, need more backing

[manic coral]

wait until people learn that Vegeta's Final Flash, is, in fact, more commonly than not, not Final

[limpid saddle]

No... No it wasnt...

[manic coral]

[near plank]

Umm

[limpid saddle]

It never was...

[manic coral]

or that the Kamehameha doens't actually use water

despite the name implying it

[late veldt]

ok I can name a machete the Omega Universe Splitter 1000 but it doesn't mean it's actually gonna split anything thicker than an arm

[split mortar]

The highest scaling feat is like country level iirc and thats from a long period of time from scal

[limpid saddle]

Well a part of their souls are still in there, fufilling their eternal vow to protect their little sister

[manic coral]

also if Moon Lord could destroy the planet

ok

hear me out here

.

why didn't it

[split mortar]

Providence:

Dog:

Yharim:

[wheat walrus]

if it's called "planetary annihilation" but it doesn't do anything comparable to actually annihilating a planet and neither does anything comparable to it, we ain't counting on it

if there's an actual basis for planet annihilating or the name is backed up by what it does or is meant to do, then I get, but we got Calamitas boiling half a sea as our biggest feat that's not planet level that's country level more like

[manic coral]

and if this is ML in-game we're talking

ok providence is stronger

.

why hasn't she

it's her goal

[dawn vigil]

impending doom approaches implies a weakened moon lord would destroy the planet /j

[near plank]

I see
Also are the dryads part of this canon
Like did they help the dragons and others beat moonlord

[manic coral]

and that's at MOST

[wheat walrus]

gng

[limpid saddle]

It's not wide-scale doom, it's personal doom, just for you 💖

[manic coral]

so like

yeah

[wheat walrus]

the feat is Country Level but she did it in a long time

otherwise Calamity is more consistently on City Level and above

[split mortar]

Dryads didnt help take on ml since they didnt exist back then iirc

[wheat walrus]

[wheat walrus]

doom eternal

[late veldt]

How the hell does Calamitas live with herself after doing that anyways

[magic zenith]

Glad i managed to start a discussion

[limpid saddle]

Drinking

[cloud ibex]

probably with great difficulty

[wheat walrus]

should update the format of ts and also do more calcs if possible, after that like I said I'm prolly gonna cool down on powerscaling since it gets tiresome sometimes

[magic zenith]

That's what I'm talking about, let me change that!

[split mortar]

Guys impending doom means the terrarian is feeling doom

Since the terrarian is you this means weakened ml transcends fiction due to being able to make irl people feel doom

[split mortar]

Probably barely

[wheat walrus]

😭

melon

[manic coral]

anywyas my points is, if i wanted to show that something is capable of destroying a planet... i'd write in it destroying a planet, or if something already had before, make it clear that is is just as destructive as said thing that destroyed a planet

[wheat walrus]

some people would prolly say that unironically

[split mortar]

Humanities dumbness knows no bounds

[limpid saddle]

I imagine her brothers probably keep her from offing herself

Both emotionally & physically

[manic coral]

some people act like this is hard and so that's why "feats are inconcistent" and outliers should be treated as their "real strength" but as a writer myself, like

why would any writer do that

doing what i just described is so much easier

[wheat walrus]

besides world-ending =/= planet level either ways, planet level assumes the planet is straight up just exploded, world-ending varies a lot since it can be targeted at humanity, or all living things, or the surface, or the planet exploding, and there's many subcircumstances for all of these too that don't just make it planet level automatically

[split mortar]

“Outliers should be treated as their real strength”

No
Fuck no
Fucking hell no

[dawn vigil]

statements are the truest vector of communication between the author and the viewer
actions can be theoretical or symbolic in nature leading to potential muddying of the waters

[manic coral]

yeah like a continent-destroying attack would ABSOLUTELY be world-ending

[split mortar]

Explodes world with mind

[mighty zenith]

my fuckin planet

[manic coral]

i disagre ebecuase like. you can always argue that a statement was an exagurration or not literal or whatever

[split mortar]

A MOLD, BEAT THEM WITH STICKS

[manic coral]

if something blows up a planet

i mean

[tepid juniper]

is thera spam channel or bot channel

[manic coral]

it blew up a planet

[dusk laurel]

melts you

death ray

[cloud ibex]

no

except for the wiki lookups channel which is for the wiki bot

[manic coral]

there's literally no arguing over that potentially being a hyperbole or a lie or whatever

[limpid saddle]

I mean when it comes to certain settings I feel like symbolism can be alot more important than others, & if every author has to or feels compelled to come out of the woodwork to specify what they meant & what their story was about, media literacy will truly be dead

[split mortar]

Wrong person dumb dumb

[mighty zenith]

[dusk laurel]

You were my intended target

stupid gun

[manic coral]

i will say this is exactly why i never really talk about the themes of cal and such

[wheat walrus]

it depends

an outlier feat when compared to others can work, but that is if the narrative supports it, is the character doing this stronger than other characters or has just gotten some sort of boost or isn't holding back, for example, since that can make an outlier seem consistent since we just saw a new level of power

but if the outlier in this case is a possible planet level interpretation of a statement in the middle of a trillion, more solid city level scalings, then it should not be considered

[manic coral]

my work speaks for me

[languid badge]

me explaining star wars to my friend for the first time

[manic coral]

[limpid saddle]

that's a shame because I feel like I have a solid interpretation of most media i've experienced & Calamity is an outlier

[magic zenith]

Last boss of base cal: city level
Second boss of wotg: universal level

[limpid saddle]

probably because isnt done

[split mortar]

I didnt consider getting a power up or not holding back as an outlier…

[cloud ibex]

yea sounds about right

[mighty zenith]

lucille wanted you to fight god so you fight god

its an addon she can do that

[manic coral]

a kinda unclear "planet level" feat gotten via just calculations and such doesn't really matter if there's 10 other showing and characters explicitly stating, like, city level

[manic coral]

yeah

[cloud ibex]

actually yeah ND is, like, literally capital G god isn't he

[wheat walrus]

or if, with a longstanding franchise, they reveal a new narrative that starts upscaling the verse, at first it's an outlier but if it keeps getting expanded upon, then that narrative I think works well to upscale the verse since it'd become consistent overtime, even if not with older parts of the work

[cloud ibex]

doesn't that make him omnipotent

[manic coral]

basically what garbo said

[limpid saddle]

or because 'conflict should not be met with revenge & determined men with the wrong ideas can bring the world to it's knees' isn't a strong enough conclusion

[wheat walrus]

within its verse, yes

[magic zenith]

I talk about AoE, nd is far beyond universal level i think

[limpid saddle]

perhaps i should re-assess my own media literacy

for i am not very intelligent

[split mortar]

Afaik nd is like 5 dimensional

[mighty zenith]

AoE is like a cosmic horror beyond human comprehension or smth

[near plank]

Oh one more question were all of the gods evil

[wheat walrus]

but omnipotence arguments when using the tiering system are kinda stupid since you can be omnipotent and be universe level, but you can also be omnipotent but be glupshittoverse level

[limpid saddle]

No

[mighty zenith]

no

[split mortar]

No

[manic coral]

yeah

[split mortar]

The hallowed is good gods

[manic coral]

trust me some of them will become more clear

i will say this

i have always, intentionally or not, written stories that are kind of

about stories?

[mighty zenith]

kids in 2105 studying clamity mod lore

[limpid saddle]

clamity

the best calamity add on

[wheat walrus]

I don't deal much with cosmology scaling, but being omnipotent doesn't automatically mean boundless when talking about tiering systems, some fictional universes are bigger than others and omnipotence implies full power over these, not over all of fiction

[near plank]

Peak writing

[dusk laurel]

🗡️

[limpid saddle]

I see..m

[dawn vigil]

wait
is providence capable of burning the universe to ash, as she says?
if so thats solidly universal or at least multi galaxy I think

[dusk laurel]

no

[wheat walrus]

what

[manic coral]

i always end up saying something about stories in my stories, and cal is no expection

[split mortar]

No

[magic zenith]

Ccr

[limpid saddle]

yowch ow

[mighty zenith]

when does she say she can

she WANTS to

[limpid saddle]

Back it up actually

When does she

[manic coral]

her goal is to destroy the planet

[limpid saddle]

Say

[dawn vigil]

icic

[limpid saddle]

Like anything actually?

[wheat walrus]

providence is on about burning the planet, not the universe, even still she isn't able to or else she would've already

[manic coral]

if she can already somehow

why hasn't she

simple as that

[mighty zenith]

bestiary

but its like
2 sentences and theyre relatively vague

in the way theyre said

[magic zenith]

Let's get back to business, Scal vs Atom eve

[mighty zenith]

definitely no implication of being able to destroy the universe

[limpid saddle]

Oh I assumed they were talking about actual dialouge not her weird scripture genesis 1:17 shit

[faint belfry]

was yharim's design reworked?

[mighty zenith]

because if she could

she wouldve already done it

[wheat walrus]

girl thinks she's my goat fatty 🔥 kalpa fire this and that 🗣️

[split mortar]

If any characters beyond noxus, prime ml and xeroc could level a country then uh

Pretty sure a good bit of the story would just be folded like a lawn chair

[manic coral]

and also the fact that she's weaker than the girl who's biggest acompolishment is taking 3-5 days to incinerate half a sea

[dawn vigil]

what happened to the moon lord loredrop that said he was weakened/practically a corpse

[wheat walrus]

wait 3 to 5 days

is it decided

[dawn vigil]

i cant find it on wiki

[split mortar]

Theyre still basically a corpse

[mighty zenith]

its called requiem

[manic coral]

why say that when that's alreayd entirely visibly clear

[manic coral]

no need to say it epxlicitly cosndiering, idk

[wheat walrus]

im about to blow up and burst into flames

[manic coral]

literally half it's body is gone

it's brain is exposed

and so is its hearts

[magic zenith]

Did she just burned the sea for 72 hours in a row or she was having 8 hours long work days?

[manic coral]

and so on

[limpid saddle]

I mean yeah he doesnt have legs

[manic coral]

she basically jsut kept going until she physically couldn't anymore

[limpid saddle]

Or most of his organs

[wheat walrus]

we're even told that the dragons tore moonlord down to a former shell of itself gng

[mighty zenith]

theres new concept art of it but its always subject to change

lilac wants to improve it in the future iirc

[limpid saddle]

If he had his liver & right kidney he instantly becomes post DoG

[indigo glade]

Prelude. Requiem is about Xeroc's ascension.

[mighty zenith]

right right

[wheat walrus]

was it actually 3 to 5 days tho is it decided fr❓

[manic coral]

yes

[mighty zenith]

requiem is what ml himself drops

[wheat walrus]

peam

peam

[split mortar]

Oh damn omni scale that

[wheat walrus]

calcs can keep going fr

[manic coral]

3 to 5 days so ig you cna assume 4

[dusk laurel]

🔥

[wheat walrus]

yes I do rounding up

[mighty zenith]

calc deez n

[split mortar]

About to get island level scal

Or somethingp

[manic coral]

4 is what i wnana go with more specifically and if nobody argues otherwise

it'll jsut be 4

[limpid saddle]

Me when I pass out from heat stroke & dehydration because im in a bunch of dark heavy robes in a desert for some reason

[manic coral]

she basically went until her body gave out

[split mortar]

So no sleep

[manic coral]

her current robes were amde during her time away from The Heartlands

if she DID have any robes the Crusade gave her

[dawn vigil]

hmm
related powerscaling question
could Monster Hunter's hunter properly hunt DoG

[manic coral]

she threw them away a LONG time ago in fvaor of something else

[magic zenith]

How big is this sea considering that its bottom is the same level as forest, it looks more like a big paddle, maybe scal wasn't doing shit and it just evaporated on it's own?

[manic coral]

hi big monster hutner fan here

[dawn vigil]

maybe with bowgun or bow because it flies

[manic coral]

and so is omni

[mighty zenith]

interesting

[limpid saddle]

me when i pass out from heat stroke & dehydration because im in my evil ass war-robes for killing people in in a desert for some reason

[manic coral]

the answer is yes consideirng

well

Fatalis and Safi'jiva

[split mortar]

Fatalis is like multi continental iirc

[dusk laurel]

uhhh

[manic coral]

nah

[dusk laurel]

monster hunter's hunter hunts monsters

[dawn vigil]

getting the new monhun today so im hyped

[manic coral]

Fatalis basically made an entire kingdom vanish overnight but

[dusk laurel]

so they no diff anything that can be considered a monster

[manic coral]

yeah no a top tier monster hunter could for sure take on at least Yharon

[split mortar]

OMNI THERES MINSTER HUBTER TALK

[dusk laurel]

[indigo glade]

Minster Hubter.

[manic coral]

but yeha like if 4 hunters cna take down Fatalis

[split mortar]

Mister

[dusk laurel]

minster

more like

[manic coral]

yeah one could ebat DoG

[wheat walrus]

yea that's my scaling

[magic zenith]

New question, crazy frog vs black anurian

[dusk laurel]

minister

[limpid saddle]

Minster Hubster sounds like the name of the villain in a cartoon for toddlers

[robust osprey]

happy frog wins

[wheat walrus]

mainly from things like Shara Ishvalda and Dalamadur's crustal movements

[split mortar]

[wheat walrus]

holy shirts

[dawn vigil]

calamity is a lot less powerful than I thought wow
maybe that one summon weapon scales to where I thought it scaled but nothing else i dont think
and thats only in AP

[wheat walrus]

but I think yea I can hunt DoG

[sleek halo]

DoG has a wincon

[magic zenith]

Oh hi Omni, didn't noticed you at first

[limpid saddle]

I dunno if the Hunter could pull it off given not many monsters uh

[wheat walrus]

elder dragons are also like

at least city level

[manic coral]

i mean no need for characters to be stronger than i need to present them to be

[sleek halo]

throw them into the distortion

[robust osprey]

yeah no, it has gods but theyre way weaker than a traditional god

[sleek halo]

and fucking run

[limpid saddle]

create interdimensional portals

[robust osprey]

specially considering provi was one of the strongest

and you have SG

[sleek halo]

that is his win condition

[split mortar]

Pretty sure noxus is going to get wrecked

[dawn vigil]

a high power ceiling creates hype if you use it right

[manic coral]

like yeah yharim can create shcokwave so powerful with punches that it can kill things and asctually atomize a dude in a single punch

[split mortar]

And city level is basically already a unstoppable force if it were to exist irl

[manic coral]

^

yeah that already amkes yharim a one man army

[wheat walrus]

and 1 thing MH has over Calamity for powerscaling is that we have way more information especially over the course of 20+ years, and since I mentioned elder dragons, their stuff with manipulating the weather and other stuff is way more defined to say the least

[manic coral]

in fact his ACTUAL army late into the crusade eventually basiclaly jsut became

[mighty zenith]

whats the point in calling characters universal or some shit when you need to give a reason why everyone is not destroying the world with each hit

[robust osprey]

I can destroy a city with enough hammers and time, does that count

[manic coral]

a cleanup crew for whatever he missed

[magic zenith]

I just thought, every calamity god is literally "discovers something in hoping it could save lives " "gets corrupted of that thing"

[dawn vigil]

I try to write for SCP on occasion so I know a bit about power ceilings lol
its so weird how this server is so powerscaling friendly in comparison to 19cord

[manic coral]

i mean it helsp that the main writer herself (me hi) was a powerscaling nerd when she was like 11-16 and still kinda is

[cloud ibex]

gooseworx soundin ass name

[split mortar]

[sleek halo]

gloop is why

[limpid saddle]

😭 🙏

true

[manic coral]

also yeah this is aprtly how i feel

and like

[tepid timber]

Big punch

Strong laser

[dusk laurel]

hubble space telescope

[manic coral]

you should be able to fight characters like yharim how you can visibly see are actually giving their all

[split mortar]

Yharim induces nuclear fusion on your cells

[dawn vigil]

I might be stupid but Yharim is evil right
A lot of in game stuff (roar of the jungle dragon specifically) has him painted in a sympathetic light but I assume its a scenario like the SCP Foundation where its a mixed subject of contention in universe

[manic coral]

you get to see the aftermath of Calamitas' nonstop rampage (twice, eventually)

[tepid timber]

Yharim better come with moody lightning during the fight

[manic coral]

i mean roar of the jungle dragon is via the perspective of his ally

[split mortar]

Yharim is a genocidal maniac with so much charisma he gets irl people to believe he is good

Yes he is evil

[tepid timber]

Very evil

[wheat walrus]

the Fatalis stuff, since it was mentioned, guy is basically at the ceiling alongside Safi, Ala and Dire Miralis

Fatalis is known to have made a kingdom considered the "height of human prosperity" overnight, but we also know that Schrade fought back and it's the reason things were left

at first I thought the statement about Fatalis leaving nothing behind was referring to Schrade, but when looking at what the MHWI Divebook's story recap has to say abt that, it's very clearly about "all living things", which is consistent with earlier statements about Fatalis scorching the entire planet in a few days, and that same book also refers to those expressions about Fatalis as "not metaphor, but fact"
tldr: where calamitas can vaporize half a sea in days, fatalis can scorch the entire planet to death in those days basically

[dawn vigil]

exactly thats why its biased

[wheat walrus]

make your assumptions now

[manic coral]

which i'm both proud of but also sometimes regret

[magic epoch]

no im not going to read all kf that

[split mortar]

Fyi yharim caused the deaths of 20% of global population (300 million)

[wheat walrus]

you have a tldr brop.,,,

😭

[magic epoch]

hmm... no i think you're lying

[wheat walrus]

[manic coral]

that's more than 20% in cal's world

[magic zenith]

Allat over omniman scal question

[wheat walrus]

omniman

:p

[manic coral]

but yeah 300 million people die in the crusades battles alone and directly to it

[split mortar]

OH HE CAUSED MORE?

[manic coral]

not even talking the after effects here

[magic zenith]

Immortal vs crabulon, who wins and why crabulon

[dusk laurel]

I thought it was a total casualty count

[tepid timber]

Immortal breathes in some spores and dies like a fucking loser

[dawn vigil]

tricking the general consensus median fan of anything isnt that difficult dw nothing to regret
just give them a banger song or story where your super authoritarians are in even a slightly good light (some of the world ending SCPs, roar of the jungle dragon again) and they'll most likely be with the abd guys

[manic coral]

that is not a total casualty count

[robust osprey]

yharim probably caused a lot of ||suicides|| and stuff

[manic coral]

that is the number of people who died in the crusade

[robust osprey]

beacuse of war

[split mortar]

Providence is a popular god

[manic coral]

we're not even talking stuff like supply line collapses due to war and shit leading to stuff like starvation or homes being ruined leaving people to the elements or whatever

[dusk laurel]

also he ravaged the land

famine and the like would probably happen

[manic coral]

i'd say if anythign the crusade more realsitically like

halved the world's population overall

[split mortar]

Oh

[cloud ibex]

another reason he's clearly in the right, he's thanos

[manic coral]

there'sa reaosn i've talked about most city-state that did exist not existing anymore and any nations that once managed to exist kind of collapsing

[wheat walrus]

tanos

[cloud ibex]

[dawn vigil]

are the town NPCs like the last vestiges of humanity rallying behind the player or are there civilizations somewhere
I honestly cant figure out if this setting is intended to be bleak or borderline apocalyptic
It would be pretty difficult to have a city or anything with evil biomes AND the astral after all
maybe yall could play around with subworld and add like
a kingdom dimension or whatever

[manic coral]

yharim is less skin to just a genocide in terms of detahs repsonsible for worldwide and moreso The Black Plague

[manic coral]

oh The Heartlands are just particuarlly fucked