#lore-discussion

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cyan coyote
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This server's rules is holding me back from unleashing the freaky inside me

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What does this imply

snow mountain
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enough for you to get the idea

cyan coyote
snow mountain
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if i have the time

split mortar
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I think we found prikki’s alt

cyan coyote
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I'm that Binah person

split mortar
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A ok

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Binah is a prikki alt then

cyan coyote
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who the hell is prikki

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Explain to me

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Do I have a potential rival

tropic oak
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lore discussion

split mortar
cyan coyote
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I don't like yharon

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I can thank infernum for that

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He's like on the bottom of the thristing list

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🙏

tropic oak
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personally he wouldnt even be on my list because I Dont Like Animals .

cyan coyote
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Certified dnd bard

tropic oak
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whatever floats your boat, man

cyan coyote
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Anyways

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@mighty zenith Leviathan vs Duke who would win

mighty zenith
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why ping me....

split mortar
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Game progression is accurate

mighty zenith
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byeah duke clears if its just solo levi

split mortar
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Duke would likely beat anahita and levi

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With a lot of trouble

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But still would

cyan coyote
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Ur words has much more value

robust osprey
mighty zenith
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no they dont

cyan coyote
mighty zenith
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im just an ourtle

split mortar
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I knew this idiot before they became a mod

mighty zenith
tropic oak
cyan coyote
tropic oak
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garbo your about me is so real btw

cyan coyote
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That doesn't explain much about him 😭

split mortar
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Often in addon talk

cyan coyote
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Oki much better

robust osprey
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addon talk's sheriff

split mortar
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Theyre there right now
-# they use the nick deranged lihzahrd

hoary cape
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Very lore related

void zealot
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beating the shit out of Yharim while Calamitas watches

split mortar
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Therapy for herclueless

solar wharf
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what would calamitas's opinion on us be if she were to watch us completely and utterly beat and torture a pet thats trying to defend its owner even if it's owner is a bit of an asshole

split mortar
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Shed dislike us i imagine
-# yharon isnt a pet so lol, bad comparison

snow mountain
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i mean she's done far worse

split mortar
snow mountain
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doesn't justify them regardless

random mulch
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yharim's also more than "a bit of an asshole"

split mortar
snow mountain
solar wharf
spare pier
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Yharim and Yharon are best friends

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Yharon is a guy who lived for multiple millenia so uh

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Yeah HDfailure

solar wharf
real silo
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Yharon is no puppy

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he's the oldest dawg around

split mortar
snow mountain
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draedon wearing a cosmilite rubber glove as a hat when???

spare pier
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If your question is "would Calamitas be mad that you beat to death the best friend of the worst person to have ever lived"

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The answer is probably no

snow mountain
random mulch
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if cosmilite is a rubber-y material, how much force is needed to get it to stretch a noticable amount?

dusk laurel
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I don't think he would reduce himself to being just Yharim's dog

dusk laurel
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Death.

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Anyways I think it's cool that Cei has been merciful to endothermic energy and implied what its new purpose will be

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Nightmare fuel on the other hand can kiss itself to death

spare pier
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Tbf Endothermic is still probably being exploded violently and we'll just keep the general "cold thing" for something

dusk laurel
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postDoG en*rgies

light linden
spare pier
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Shoot

light linden
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are they transparent at all?

spare pier
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Uuuuuh

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No(?)

light linden
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ok ty

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for context

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I've been thinking about how places of worship looked for the different gods

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Had the idea for one of those stained glass things that are sometimes in churches but made out of sea prisms for Otonilou

limpid saddle
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Damn that's actually a really cool concept

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Decorative or used for something other than worship?

light linden
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I mean

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I'm not sure what the history behind those being in churches is

real silo
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They pretty 👍

dusk laurel
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Ture

analog robin
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What are the lore implications of Betsy still being a boss?

languid badge
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None

small jay
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iirc crossover stuff isn't canon

languid badge
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^

analog robin
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Darn

split mortar
pulsar ocean
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if i shot yharim in the head with a 9mm without his auric tesla helmet would he die

languid badge
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…good luck finding a 9 mm in terraria?

pulsar ocean
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with some op gear

pulsar ocean
languid badge
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Fires musket balls

pulsar ocean
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oh yeah

late veldt
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what caliber are the high velocity bullets

split mortar
languid badge
# pulsar ocean with some op gear

Skeleton snipers do arround 200 damage, if we assume yharim has consumed the maximum amount of life crystals that would only do like half his health
Since a 50 cal is a fair bit more powerful than a 9mm we can safely assume he survives

late veldt
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or we could just shoot a player with a high caliber bullet lmao

limpid saddle
pulsar ocean
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thats fricking crazy

limpid saddle
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Eh not really my point was it's a very weak munition

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Now if you shot him in the head with a .44, yeah, jaybe

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But also Calamity weird & the hyper sonic magic death laser doesnt kill him on contact one can assume regular gun wouldnt either

snow mountain
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what if I shot you in the head with a .44? would you be dead?

light linden
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not a glock

split mortar
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Yharim can withstand himself hitting something

He is still the physically strongest guy without exo boost imo

He def is far post ml without armour

limpid saddle
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The question doth become

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How far back in Calamity progression do we need to go for a .44 to be instantaneous death?

manic coral
pulsar ocean
limpid saddle
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fallout new vegas

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also Benny actually shot him twice

split mortar
limpid saddle
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& he still didnt die

limpid saddle
manic coral
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in ONE shot of a .44?

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no way

split mortar
random mulch
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you would also be a legend if you took out a blue whale with a magnum

manic coral
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EoC by yourself is enough to make you considered an exceptional fighter

limpid saddle
manic coral
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yknow

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literally any solider in the crusade

split mortar
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Or plantera with the venus magnum

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Or the jungle enemies with the uzi

light linden
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hey cei can I ask a question?

manic coral
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or anybody in the right area after 30 years into the crusade to buy a gun

limpid saddle
manic coral
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and have the money to bujy said gun

manic coral
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at least early on

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absolutely

manic coral
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i mean muskets pre-date draedon apeparing to make tech advancement explode

split mortar
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Wait yeah arms dealer straighh up sells shotguns

manic coral
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so did basic pistols

magic epoch
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can primordial wyrm's name being Jared be canon please ibeg on hands and knees?

manic coral
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and i mena you cna find rnadom shotguns in the jungle yeah

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that draedon DEIFNITLY didn't have a hand in making

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against it wasn't medevil it was more like

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early industreal revolution

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they had gunpowder and explosives and stuff

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hell that was part of azafure's identity

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it's gunpowder

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and the mining industry that resulted from it

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guns weren't nessesarily common

robust osprey
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boom society

manic coral
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they were not easily accessable or cheap

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but they existed yeah

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basic firearms existed before the crusade

spare pier
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As Orios said, it's kinda like shooting a blue whale with a normal gun

split mortar
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Some of the early ranged weapons are literally guns

spare pier
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A blue whale will absolutely tank a bullet

manic coral
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yeah

light linden
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kinda wonder how the undertaker came into being

robust osprey
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there's a shark-shaped minigun

split mortar
light linden
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it a crimsoned flintlock pistol?

manic coral
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basically yeah

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like

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thats literally just its sprite pretty much

pulsar ocean
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if i shot scal in the head with a .44 while she wasnt looking would she die

light linden
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I've never looked super close at the sprite tbh

spare pier
light linden
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I play on corruption worlds a lot

manic coral
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gatling guns were literally use in the american civil war

split mortar
wheat walrus
pulsar ocean
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you should be able to make 9mm bullets out of shadowspec

split mortar
light linden
manic coral
light linden
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wait no I'm thinking of acceleration rounds

pulsar ocean
manic coral
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i don't think they'd have been that far off from stuff like that pre-crusade

cosmic zenith
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High velocity bullets are a vanilla ammunition

deft vessel
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Yharims final move is yhglock

split mortar
pulsar ocean
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how much is an inch in cantimeters im sorry

manic coral
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about 2.6

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or well

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more like 2.8?

dusk laurel
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Cei-ing

split mortar
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Little above 2.5 iirc

pulsar ocean
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holy shit 7+ cantimeter bullet?

manic coral
dusk laurel
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hairboom

cosmic zenith
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Wet cat, more like wet mouse

light linden
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hi stip

strong notch
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ello

hoary berry
split mortar
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HAIRBOOM IS IN EL HUEVO???

hoary berry
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yes?

split mortar
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Didnt know that

hoary berry
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it's been in eggcord for months

split mortar
dusk laurel
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it used to be called "kaguyabalding"

hoary berry
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yup

sleek halo
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everyone in terrraria is like…

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10 technological revolutions behind draedon

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LOL

indigo glade
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Casual infinite energy, while everyone else is figuring out how to mass produce guns.

manic coral
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well

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yeah

sleek halo
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yea

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hard to outcompete the uh

split mortar
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When you are making nanotech plagues and plasma guns while your enemies are struggling with mass producing flintlocks

sleek halo
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immortal, obscenely smart, obscenely wealthy

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and efficient

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dude

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who can replicate himself

indigo glade
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Wulfrums are quite impressive, if you think about it...

sleek halo
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yeah

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incredibly so

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unfortunately

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Exo Mechs

indigo glade
split mortar
sleek halo
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i mean

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still impressive

glacial rampart
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i mean wulfrum tech is still far beyond anything we have in the real world

split mortar
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True

manic coral
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it's espeiclaly impressive considering

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it's simple enough for the average joe to work with

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perhaps even the average john

split mortar
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John

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Like

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JOHN WULFRUM

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A

sleek halo
light linden
frozen zodiac
sleek halo
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thanks Hugo Larsson

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anyways

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@cloud ibex

light linden
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@cloud ibex we got a bot

sleek halo
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smite him down

sleek halo
light linden
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welp ig I'm the snail this time

tidal mantle
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Hugo more like dumbo

cloud ibex
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oute

subtle geyser
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I do not remember but is respawning canonical in calamity?

cosmic zenith
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Nope

subtle geyser
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good

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makes sense

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as I expected

subtle geyser
# cosmic zenith Nope

also what a most humorous profile picture If I am to remember correctly that is a rainworld character correct?

indigo glade
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Observing a specific celestial object.

late veldt
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do you know what a gun is

languid badge
subtle geyser
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what a fascinating little creature

late veldt
glacial rampart
subtle geyser
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jerma is quite the peculiar fellow if I may say so myself

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also

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is there a lore reason why we can't change our nicknames in the server? are we stupid?

cloud ibex
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the lore reason is we don't trust most people with that kind of power

subtle geyser
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understandable in a server this big

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I honestly forgot it was even a feature to limit that

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this is the first occurrence I see of it being limited

cloud ibex
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you can just ask for a nickname anyway and we'll give it to you unless it's, like, bad

subtle geyser
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oh damn I was just gonna have this be my nickname Lord Yharim The Godseeker

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since I have the same nickname in my private server where we ramble about calamity shit since we're trying to get one of our other friends into it

robust osprey
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I found the godseeker

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I gotta kill

subtle geyser
subtle geyser
subtle geyser
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I know it exists and I hear it is good

jolly acorn
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so whas the lore of calamity

indigo glade
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Check the pinned document.

robust osprey
light linden
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hmmm

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hey do we know how much energy exo prisms output specifically?

subtle geyser
robust osprey
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ur so mean with gods...

subtle geyser
tidal tulip
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I believe most are pretty bad, but the hallow would really like to have a word there

subtle geyser
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the hallow literally wants to obliterate everything that it deems not pure

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I will not stand for these god apologists

robust osprey
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you don't explain what the hallow is beacuse you know those were good gods 😔

subtle geyser
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THEY LITERALLY TRY TO KILL YOU TOO

robust osprey
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queen slime doesnt count thats just god slime after transitioning

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and EoL...idk what she is

subtle geyser
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empress of light was certainly something

subtle geyser
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that's why hollow creatures attack the player

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it's very simple

dusk laurel
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That's never stated

subtle geyser
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pretty sure it was

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I'd need to look through it again

cloud ibex
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the hallow doesn't have a lore item at all

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presumably because trying to explain it would make yharim look Very Bad

subtle geyser
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huh

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interesting

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then I must try to find where I heard that from

robust osprey
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vanilla lore

subtle geyser
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I just checked yes

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you are correct it is vanilla lore

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either way all I'm saying is they had it coming

cloud ibex
glacial rampart
subtle geyser
robust osprey
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"I misclicked the kill button"

subtle geyser
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when draedon texted me I read it as the hollow and thought they wanted to hollow the world out

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my fault guys

shrewd geyser
# manic coral EoC by yourself is enough to make you considered an exceptional fighter

This was something I have always thought about when it came to Terraria. It gets me thinking like how common it was for people to 1v1 the Eoc. And if it was more common then not, what boss was considered to be too strong to fight alone. Like if you were to ask a random villager where the cut off point is from an average adventurer to what we the terrarian are.

robust osprey
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most normal people would get eaten by the eye

manic coral
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could YOU kill a zombie that could maul you to death in 4 seconds?

shrewd geyser
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true

robust osprey
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they could barely survive some time even against king slime

shrewd geyser
manic coral
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something that'd at least take a normal perosn like

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a firearm and good aim

shrewd geyser
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sounds like a rough life, being a normal person in terraria

manic coral
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now imagine fighting one of those but able to take like 50 times more damage, is ten times the size, and could swallow you in a single bite

robust osprey
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just stay away from danger

shrewd geyser
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I was just thinking back to the blood moon lore item. How it says that some cities would actually train soldiers during one. I always thought that was cool, like we are not the ONLY people capable of surviving

manic coral
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or Skeletron Prime

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or AStrum Aureus

shrewd geyser
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yea its a wrap

manic coral
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and then that REALLY puts into perspective how crazy fucking strong like

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Yharim is

shrewd geyser
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yea bro is on steroids

subtle geyser
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pretty sure he is

manic coral
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it's the exception

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other palces are less dnagerous

subtle geyser
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and it's just roids

light linden
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I feel like I could take the eye of cthulhu at most lmao

shrewd geyser
manic coral
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ive even written a permafrsot line about the comrpison of bloodmoons where the game takes palce vs. elsewhere

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being

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a blood moon anywhere else ends up spawning as much undead

robust osprey
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azafure's most dangerous thing would be the lava and maybe ocassional demons

shrewd geyser
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my head cannon was that where the game takes place was on a separate continent

manic coral
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about as much as a normal night there

robust osprey
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and well, this silly elemental who blew up the city HDfailure

light linden
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this reminds me cei

manic coral
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normal nights in The Heartlands are literally more akin to a Blood Moon elsewhere

shrewd geyser
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yikes

manic coral
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on like

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any other continent exept one

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things ARE less fucked up

shrewd geyser
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I think that is cool

light linden
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do lunar eclipses have peculiar effects like solar eclipses do in-lore?

shrewd geyser
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also the heartlands?

manic coral
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idk guess you'll have to see

light linden
manic coral
shrewd geyser
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aaahh

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im using that now

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mine

manic coral
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yeah

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just a LITTLE dangerous right now

languid badge
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just a tad

glacial rampart
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huh

manic coral
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sort of ground zero for a lot of bad stuff

languid badge
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how does the guide survive before you show up

glacial rampart
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man this calamity fella sure has some interesting lore

tidal tulip
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Makes the terrarian look exceptionally powerful

shrewd geyser
light linden
shrewd geyser
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no one could get in if they tried

light linden
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he knows a lot

languid badge
light linden
manic coral
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and i feel like it says something that

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the only way other forces feel comfrotable enough to go there is

light linden
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they could've lived in one of the giant trees

manic coral
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in the form of basically armies

shrewd geyser
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either you come strapped or don't come at all

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imagine pulling up and getting dusted mid SCAL fight

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they would never believe you

light linden
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also cei can I ask a question about scal?

manic coral
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no questions right now

light linden
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oh ok

manic coral
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you have used your limit for today

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:/

shrewd geyser
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rip

manic coral
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(yes you may)

robust osprey
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5 coins for an answer

manic coral
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start charging for questions

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$1 each

shrewd geyser
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5 gold dabloons

light linden
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is it true that her robes are ruby robes or was I lied to?

manic coral
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her robes are custom-made

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specifically for her

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during her time adventuring by herself before the game starts but after the incineration

light linden
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guessing permafrost had a hand in making them?

manic coral
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not whatsoever

shrewd geyser
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speaking of, what Armour do you think yharim had before his current one? If he had any others that is

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think he followed the same progression path as us?

robust osprey
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probably normal armor

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until he got auric

manic coral
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yharim had hgis own set of armor from before the cursade but then got his hands on his auric armor later

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wasn't always like it was now

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went through a very slow and logn process of modification and adjustments

shrewd geyser
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guess that makes sense

manic coral
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didn't even fit him well at first

languid badge
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does yharims version of auric have a special name or is it just "yharims auric armor"

shrewd geyser
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was he FAT

manic coral
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no

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just wasn't made for him

shrewd geyser
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ah

manic coral
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so he had to make changes to get it to work better

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actively hidnered him offensively at first and was jsut an defensive tool

manic coral
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it's just a set of auric armor

shrewd geyser
robust osprey
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pretty sure yharim is the only wearer of auric

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before we kill his pet

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so it would be just "auric armor"

manic coral
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calling yharon his pet is highly questionable

robust osprey
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it's an animal friend

manic coral
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i mean would a commander in chief call his second-in-command their pet

shrewd geyser
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bet it was probably heavy as well. Or maybe it had the same properties as mythril in standard fantasy being lightweight.

robust osprey
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fits as a pet for me

manic coral
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that'd be weird

manic coral
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debatably smarter than msot people

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and capable of communication

robust osprey
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that's true

manic coral
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at least some level of communication

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has methods with Yharim specifically since they're attuned but obviously

shrewd geyser
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Are you smarter that an eternal dragon?

tidal tulip
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Is Yharim's auric tesla armor better than ours because we make a mock attunement and he's attuned to Yharon? I don't know if that's outdated info or not

manic coral
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no human-like vocal cords or teeth or stuff

manic coral
tidal tulip
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Ahh I see

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Thanks 🙏

manic coral
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aside form some modifcations here and there

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that yours probably doesn't have

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meant specifically for himself

tidal tulip
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Like the exo tech

scenic olive
manic coral
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i mean not like exo tech would improve it defnsively. sidegrade, if anything.

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just maybe comes with a handful of useful additional functions

shrewd geyser
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Oh, is the crimson and corruption contained to where we are? Or can it be found elsewhere

manic coral
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it cna be found in some other palces elsewher,e but not nessesarily as the "crimson" or "corruption"

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those aren't the only two forms of it

shrewd geyser
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ahh

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interesting

scenic olive
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Wait

shrewd geyser
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i wanna know more

scenic olive
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Youre saying we couldve had another biome

robust osprey
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green evil

manic coral
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in theory. crimson and corruption both exist in the world.

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you jsut choose which exists in The Heartlands

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but there's more than just those two

shrewd geyser
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gotchu

scenic olive
robust osprey
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pokemon crimson/corruption edition

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and pokemom hallow edition

shrewd geyser
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maybe the one we have is more volatile, that's why it spreads so fast

scenic olive
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I mean hallow does

tidal tulip
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Fargos' best of both worlds with the double world evil clueless

scenic olive
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Count as one of them

manic coral
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eh it's the same thing sorta yeah but is still kidna different

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it's actually habitable, for one

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you cna realisrtically live fine in it

tidal tulip
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Is the hallow the essence of a dead benevolent god?

manic coral
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there's no other things like The Hallow

shrewd geyser
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thats wild

robust osprey
scenic olive
manic coral
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that is uniquely formed from the Wall of Flesh's death

robust osprey
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many

light linden
dusk laurel
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why

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why would it be

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in cal

light linden
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idk

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but I wanna make sure

manic coral
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I mean seeing as some NPCs even like The Hallow

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it's clearly mostly fine

dusk laurel
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explodes thunder

light linden
scenic olive
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build wof then put the rest of them there

manic coral
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there hallow is always there

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it is unique

shrewd geyser
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wait, i just remembered another question. In the wall of flesh lore item it said that at one point at least yharim used the wall of flesh to contain evils

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so he was the one who made the wall of flesh?

manic coral
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no

scenic olive
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He had people working with him

manic coral
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yharim doesn't use magic really

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very minorly here or there, at most

shrewd geyser
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ah

tidal tulip
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Could it be that yharim had the essence of the hallow contained in the wall of flesh to prevent people from learning of the possible benevolence of gods?

manic coral
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yharim has simply perfected the art of hitting things really hard until they die

indigo glade
robust osprey
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hit the creature until it stops breathing

dusk laurel
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Hallow doesn't even get a whisper from Yharim

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Very suspicious

robust osprey
shrewd geyser
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exept for the EOL

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accept*

robust osprey
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that's beacuse it would be really hard to explain that he killed good gods and not be in a bad place

indigo glade
shrewd geyser
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true

manic coral
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honestly it'll be fun to have permafrost talk about the actual logistics of the Wall of Flesh

shrewd geyser
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yes

scenic olive
shrewd geyser
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it would

scenic olive
manic coral
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i already wrote that dialogue

shrewd geyser
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lol

languid badge
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was bored one afternoon?

shrewd geyser
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sneak peak? 👀

manic coral
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fun fact: having to drag the Wall of Flesh under every place they killed a lot of gods in was a pain in the ass

shrewd geyser
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oooh

manic coral
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and slowed potential progress a lot

shrewd geyser
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so it wasn't secluded to hell

manic coral
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and was the main limiting factor in the crusade at points

shrewd geyser
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thats rad

manic coral
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that was part of the issue

scenic olive
manic coral
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that's also why it can go really fast though

shrewd geyser
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I guess the underworld would be the only place large enough to hide it

tidal tulip
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If the people who were under yharims rule or influence are still anti-god, I'd like to imagine the Terrarian as a force that exposes Yharim's whole "all gods are evil"

manic coral
shrewd geyser
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if he didn't want people to kill it

scenic olive
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is that why he immediately spawns after we kill the guide

manic coral
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it was a solution, and at the time, the ONLY solution

scenic olive
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Just blitzes to azafure

manic coral
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but it was a pain in the ass solution

tidal tulip
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Until DoG came in, somehow immune to the godly corruption thing, or maybe it's because the godly essence is transported instantaneously

manic coral
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there just weren't any better alternatives

languid badge
manic coral
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also something i wanna see what people think about permafrost describing

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DoG's first and sudden return with Yharim from the front lines

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and how they almost fired off all weaponry at it before they saw Yharim riding it

shrewd geyser
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yea that was another thing, were there any other gods that were off-screened by DoG

dusk laurel
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DoG mount confirmed

subtle geyser
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Since you are the main writer of calamity can you confirm or deny that I did nothing wrong?

manic coral
shrewd geyser
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lol

tidal tulip
manic coral
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i can write you out of existence though

full leaf
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Question is this the right place to ask a who would win scenario

shrewd geyser
languid badge
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noxus I presume gets away with it by just being plain stronger than the gods themselves :/

manic coral
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primary source right here

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THE primary source in fact

full leaf
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One of the beligerents is a pokemon fyi

subtle geyser
manic coral
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ok i know jack shit about pokemon

robust osprey
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I do

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trust me

scenic olive
robust osprey
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I know

indigo glade
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I know a slight amount.

full leaf
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Ok who would win, Primal Kyogre or Supreme Calamitas

subtle geyser
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I win

robust osprey
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primal kyogre 100%

full leaf
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Primal Kyogre gets the pokedex entries

light linden
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it's a literal primordial god

indigo glade
scenic olive
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What if you feed all the essence to wof

shrewd geyser
robust osprey
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blud can just make the entire world water

light linden
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scal would get clobbered

full leaf
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Here's the thing though Scal can evaporate water since her flames are so hot

robust osprey
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Scal just evaporated a water continent, not even fully HDfailure

manic coral
dusk laurel
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it was a underwater lake

robust osprey
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...why did I say continent

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kingdom*

indigo glade
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Normal Kyogre could probably beat Calamitas...

languid badge
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whale

manic coral
tidal tulip
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How big was Ilmeris pre-incineration?

scenic olive
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Terrarian can make water out of nothing

full leaf
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Normal Kyogre gets murked by Calamitas

scenic olive
robust osprey
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team aqua wanted to use kyogre to end the fucking human race

light linden
indigo glade
languid badge
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ocean creator vs ocean destroyer

robust osprey
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and that was totally a possibility

light linden
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lemme put it this way

full leaf
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Normal Kyogre doesn't have the ability to fizzle out all flame

dusk laurel
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SCal didn't even incinerate Ilmeris immediately

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it was over time

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more than a week iirc

full leaf
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Ok you all have convinced me that SCal gets shat on by Primal Kyogre

dusk laurel
tidal tulip
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I was about to say

dusk laurel
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Thanks Cei

tidal tulip
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Like cei JUST said 3-5 days

indigo glade
light linden
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Kyogre constantly battles with another god that is trying to do the opposite of what Kyogre does

languid badge
#

what does yharims pokemon team look like

full leaf
robust osprey
light linden
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So SCal who is a weaker version of Groudon in comparison

full leaf
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Far more doable quickly

manic coral
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to be fair

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not an ocean

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a sea

light linden
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would get clobbered

manic coral
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a sea is CONSIDERABLY smaller

tidal tulip
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Cei, if you don't mind me asking, how big was Ilmeris?

languid badge
manic coral
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idk

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exact sizes for things like that are hard

subtle geyser
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I don't really like power scaling but I will ask since you're the writer who is stronger calamitas or yharim because a friend asked me

full leaf
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I think Scal vs. Base Kyogre is pretty even

dusk laurel
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Yharim

manic coral
shrewd geyser
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xD

manic coral
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i mean

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he's after in progression

robust osprey
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guy who just hits really hard wins against magic

subtle geyser
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yeah but he argued that calamitas was his trump card and he uses other's power to get this far

manic coral
full leaf
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Btw Cei I just wanted to say thank you for making the best fiction I've ever read and I mean it

dusk laurel
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Calamitas has more destructive capabilities

manic coral
subtle geyser
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I know

dusk laurel
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Yharim is stronger in general

manic coral
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and had Yharon msotly guard already conquored palces

robust osprey
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yharim was likely alone at around the start of the cursade, aside from yharon and his soldiers

shrewd geyser
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the fact that providence got away from yharim , and we killed her is still wild to me

manic coral
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Yharim is probably the msot battle-experienced person in all of cal

subtle geyser
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but he's a little thug about these things I'm just gonna send him your answer

subtle geyser
tidal tulip
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He's got like a century of fighting experience right?

subtle geyser
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also another one he asked was draedon or yharim

full leaf
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Oh btw something to consider about Scal vs. Kyogre is that the older and current SCal is probably a fair bit stronger than Ilmeris SCal

manic coral
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he literally used to just be an average joe with maybe some exceptional qualities

robust osprey
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yharim has a 100 years old war for experience

shrewd geyser
late veldt
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Yharim vs pinky who wins

robust osprey
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pinky

scenic olive
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Do we have any lore on shimmer yet

dusk laurel
#

mana liquid

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idk

manic coral
shrewd geyser
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did they use majority guns or swords

dusk laurel
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yharmy had firearms

manic coral
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not counting xeroc but xeroc isn't always "in the world" so

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it's Yharim most of the time

dusk laurel
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like the arsenal weapons

manic coral
shrewd geyser
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ooooh

subtle geyser
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all of this wouldn't have happened if he didn't do what he did

manic coral
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i mean they're a little busy to be fair

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might as well blame the guy who invented the internet for all crime commited over the internet

tidal tulip
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I'd like to know Xeroc's thought process behind Yharim being strong enough to make them question their own power, despite being many times stronger than Yharim.

scenic olive
#

god

late veldt
robust osprey
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xeroc made the surface more livable

subtle geyser
shrewd geyser
tidal tulip
subtle geyser
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if he didn't schlurp the first auric soul others wouldn't have known

dusk laurel
#

Domino effects are not always intentional

tidal tulip
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Zeratros manipulated the sun to be harsh on the surface worls

subtle geyser
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still if you remove the first domino it doesn't happen

scenic olive
manic coral
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i mean again, i'd say that's still "people who invented the itnernet" argument

sleek halo
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helloo

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what happened

manic coral
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oh hi aster

gritty kraken
dusk laurel
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I mean he threw away the thing that allowed for perfect ascensions on purpose

shrewd geyser
#

oof

robust osprey
tidal tulip
#

How exactly did the ascension ritual spread..?

subtle geyser
manic coral
tidal tulip
#

Or did people do trial and error

sleek halo
robust osprey
#

living in literal hell was colder than living in the surface

scenic olive
sleek halo
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what is

gritty kraken
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Saint did it

sleek halo
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happening

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what is the discourse over

scenic olive
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that led to Yharim

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fucking butchering them all

manic coral
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if the person who invented the itnernet threw away most evidence of how they did it, but people still noticed and found a way to re-create the internet

subtle geyser
manic coral
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and then decided to use the internet for hate crimes

subtle geyser
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because if he didn't discover the ritual then it wouldn't have happened

sleek halo
manic coral
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also yeha if we're using THAT logic

dusk laurel
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Yharim arguably was worse than Xeroc

manic coral
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ML caused it

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not Xeroc

sleek halo
robust osprey
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green slime caused everything

sleek halo
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he is

dusk laurel
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Also yeah ML was a bigger cause

sleek halo
#

literally hitler

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on a bigger scale

dusk laurel
#

Yeah

sleek halo
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LOL

earnest wraith
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Fovos kinda killed like half of the dragons and dipped

subtle geyser
tidal tulip
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Hitler if he was successful 😭

shrewd geyser
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bruh

tidal tulip
#

Alright there's some big differences

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But

robust osprey
#

yharim might be equally racist

sleek halo
earnest wraith
sleek halo
#

he’d just slaughter you

tidal tulip
#

Genocidal maniacs come to mind for both

manic coral
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there's a reason 90% of the mods' mod-notifs chat's pings for "hitler" come from this channel

sleek halo
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LOL

earnest wraith
#

"oh your a god? d e a t h"

pliant ruin
#

guys friendly reminder that bringing real life heinous figures into lore discussion for the terraria mod is probably not a good idea

dusk laurel
#

TRUE

subtle geyser
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also I know I did some a lot of bad things but it was a good goal

subtle geyser
manic coral
#

oh hey cheese right on point

sleek halo
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he’s just one of the

earnest wraith
gritty kraken
dusk laurel
#

Yharim being compared to Genghis Khan makes more sense

sleek halo
#

first people I think of

earnest wraith
#

providence just wants to kill like, everyone

sleek halo
#

when I think of Yharim

subtle geyser
dusk laurel
#

Yharim when he has to justify the mech bosses

manic coral
#

it's Walt Disney

earnest wraith
#

lol

dusk laurel
#

Based...

sleek halo
#

I remember this discussion

tidal tulip
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Are current people who were formerly under Yharim's rule and influence still anti-god or have they become more neutral/pro-god?

manic coral
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that's mostly who he's inspired by

scenic olive
subtle geyser
#

anyways

robust osprey
subtle geyser
#

the gods are dicks go kill them

gritty kraken
#

and the yharganda continue

earnest wraith
#

dreadon does not likke the mech bosses because he does not have full control over them

sleek halo
#

my guess for how many gods r

manic coral
#

i like how the answer of people who inspired yharim being "walt disney" throws people who don't actually know much about walt disney off guard

sleek halo
#

kicking around are in the

manic coral
#

and immediatly makes sense for people who DO

sleek halo
#

double digits

tidal tulip
#

Wasn't he very anti Semitic? There's gotta be more but I'm unaware of his... beliefs

manic coral
#

it's always either "...what???" or "yeah checks out"

indigo glade
pliant ruin
#

WALT DISNEY!

subtle geyser
#

most ceos are assholes it checks out

robust osprey
pliant ruin
#

and walt disney is like

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ceo prime

manic coral
pliant ruin
#

hes like the exo mechs of ceos

manic coral
#

walt disney in his later years was a funny guy

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for more in-dpeth stuff i recommend the channel Defunctland

pliant ruin
#

XM-05 "WALT"

manic coral
#

very based

late veldt
#

Why does Xeroc say that the Terminus's power can no longer be taken advantage of? is it because there's (basically) no auric souls left or?

manic coral
#

very cool

visual kiln
#

[

robust osprey
pliant ruin
#

TRUE

subtle geyser
manic coral
#

but basically

dusk laurel
visual kiln
#

hiiiiiiii

earnest wraith
#

henry ford and walt disney have a VERY large amount of parallels

pliant ruin
#

HAI AZZY

manic coral
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uhhhhh in his later years he may have done stuff like

visual kiln
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hihhiihihihihihihihihih

manic coral
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ever heard of EPCOT?

pliant ruin
#

wow what a surprise seeing you here

manic coral
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yeha that wa ssupposed to be a city

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he

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was

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uh

pliant ruin
#

definitely not in a vc with you right now!

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definitely!

manic coral
#

the dioctator of

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like a literal actual dictator

indigo glade
scenic olive
#

How old is Draedon

pliant ruin
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those were rejects

earnest wraith
#

like hunreds of years

tidal tulip
earnest wraith
#

ya

robust osprey
pliant ruin
#

they werent good enough

indigo glade
languid badge
manic coral
#

also he was very good at keeping up a persona

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and gaining the lvoe of many

scenic olive
#

So hes not that old

manic coral
#

while behind the scene he chose blatant favorite

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very anti-union

pliant ruin
#

disneyland was gonna be an actual disneyland

manic coral
#

was them as "encroaching communism"

visual kiln
robust osprey
#

yeah sounds like yharim

earnest wraith
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"Walt Disney" = "Henry Ford"

robust osprey
#

checks out

sleek halo
pliant ruin
#

i'm over five gorillion years old

earnest wraith
#

"Walt Disney" = "yharim"

pliant ruin
#

i miss anomalocaris

manic coral
#

poeple close to him got treated well and even those not got paid well but yeah he pushed veyr hard against people who he disagreed with or didn't like

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and a tip among people who advised him was always

dusk laurel
languid badge
manic coral
#

"never say no"

subtle geyser
#

cei do you give me permission to learn as much calamity lore as possible and just answer lore questions from the perspective of yharim

manic coral
#

"at most, say maybe"

pliant ruin
#

and it was bang

manic coral
shrewd geyser
#

the big cheese

sleek halo
#

be as biased as you wish for Yharim

subtle geyser
#

it is good curtesy to ask and also you're here so why not

manic coral
tidal tulip
#

like, permission to roleplay?

robust osprey
manic coral
#

eh more like 20%

indigo glade
#

I wonder how matter is formed in Calamity, since stars are fundamentally different.

subtle geyser
scenic olive
manic coral
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a lot of draedon yapping too

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and bestiary

robust osprey
#

oh right bestiary is a thing

sleek halo
#

confident enough to say no to Yharim

manic coral
#

yeah

sleek halo
#

Draedon & Permafrost

robust osprey
#

and probably die

tidal tulip
sleek halo
#

being some

dusk laurel
#

I wait for the eventual Permafrost yhap sesh

late veldt
#

yeah I'm not too surprised by the Walt thing but I still would have thought his main inspiration to be a more successful dictator or warlord

tidal tulip
#

💔

robust osprey
#

or went to visit dungeon

manic coral
#

most people were a BIT afraid to say no to the dude who could atomize them in a single punch

sleek halo
#

yeah

sleek halo
scenic olive
sleek halo
#

one of them literally could never be killed by Yharim

#

and the other

manic coral
#

permafrost and draedon are some of the few people to ever have the balls to tell yharim "no"

scenic olive
#

after he basically refuse to be in any part of his yharmy

sleek halo
#

Literally left Yharim

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out of rage

indigo glade
earnest wraith
#

Yharim only kicked dreadon out because he was kinda making bio-weapons, right?

manic coral
#

becuasse draedon knows he cna say no, and

shrewd geyser
#

among other things

manic coral
#

the fuck will Yharim do?

#

kill him?

sleek halo
#

yeah

earnest wraith
#

yea

sleek halo
#

literally what I said LOL

late veldt
scenic olive
manic coral
#

permafrost had way more balls

sleek halo
#

I’ve headcanoned

shrewd geyser
#

don't read at three AM challenge

sleek halo
#

that Yharim couldn’t bring himself to kill Permafrost personally

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which isnwhy he sent scal

pliant ruin
#

"draedon please stop weaponizing living beings"
"no"
"what you gonna do piss boy"

late veldt
earnest wraith
#

yharim did try to kill him, but like not on his own. He just said to Scal, "hey go kill your mentor and main family figure, alright?"

sleek halo
manic coral
#

the only thing Yharim could hold over Draedon was resources for him to use

sleek halo
#

at that point

manic coral
#

and also like

manic coral
#

it's VERY hard to amek an enemy out of Draedon due to his anture

visual kiln
#

extremely based

manic coral
#

but at the same time

#

if you SOMEHOW did

scenic olive
#

did yharim ever found out about cryogen?

tidal tulip
manic coral
#

by some fucked up miracle

pliant ruin
#

yharim the piss boy

earnest wraith
#

after dreadon got the reasources than, he dident really NEED yharim, it was just conveinient

pliant ruin
#

auric is basically piss ore if you think abt it its yellow n stuff

manic coral
#

draedon is the worst enemy you could ever have

sleek halo
#

yeah

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he could kill you

#

in so many manor of ways

manic coral
#

draedon could do WORSE than kill you