lore-discussion

[cloud ibex]

unfortunate

better luck next time

[deft valve]

lets eat providence i bet she tastes like crunchy chocolate

[gaunt sluice]

and fire

[magic epoch]

i think providence tastes like.... uhhhh idk go ask her

[eager bluff]

a rock

potentially even The rock

[spring helm]

say that again...

[keen oyster]

havent played in couple of months, any new lore changes?

[split mortar]

Nope, nothing for ages

The next major update (sunken sea overhaul) will have major lore changes though

[limpid saddle]

With a couple months, not really

If you haven't investigated here though there's alot you don't know

[split mortar]

-# someone could possibly find all lore in game tbf

[manic coral]

SSO is taking too long

so sadly no

no new stuff yet

:p

[dense lynx]

Okay this is kinda important question

What is Draedon's IQ?

[limpid saddle]

I wanna talk about Calamitas Clone or Cataclysm & Catastrophe but I can't think of any questions to ask chat

[limpid saddle]

Uh, how is that important?

IQ is an illogical & irrelevant measurement of intelligence

[split mortar]

Its ever growing and at his level IQ prob dont matter, being that he is so much smarter then basically all life

[limpid saddle]

IQ is basically a bunch of bullshit made up by nerds like 200 years ago

[limpid saddle]

are there any thoughts or questions anyone has about these characters

particularly C.C

[robust osprey]

Crying Child

[limpid saddle]

im gonna punch you

[robust osprey]

I will eat your hand

[limpid saddle]

I'll wear a boxing glove

[robust osprey]

I will eat the glove and then your hand

[limpid saddle]

I'll put another glove on top of it & put a cinder block in your mouth

[robust osprey]

I will eat the cinder block

and then your gloves

then your hand

[limpid saddle]

ok fine i'll just throw a brick at you

[robust osprey]

don't

thats my weakness

[limpid saddle]

anyway

Do you have thoughts on Calamitas Clone

[manic coral]

this would be Draedon's answer if you aske dhim this question, too

[dusk laurel]

It's a clone

[robust osprey]

uuuh

[dusk laurel]

[robust osprey]

how can she summon calbros

or calbros clones

[dusk laurel]

she made them out of brimstone clay

clearly

[limpid saddle]

He's literally me

Also Cei do you have any thoughts about Calamitas Clone as a character

I really like her core concept & ideas behind her so I hope she gets expanded upon a little

[mighty zenith]

she certainly exists

and um

thats it

[limpid saddle]

[mighty zenith]

doesnt even have an original theme just a medley

[limpid saddle]

nobody sees her character depth

[snow mountain]

i hope cal clone gets shot outside the shed

[robust osprey]

I mean I like her concept

I aprove

[limpid saddle]

Im gonna throw rocks through your window

[snow mountain]

nuh uh

[robust osprey]

that's a deadly strategy made by xeroc itself

[dusk laurel]

Xeroc throwing a rock at you that's stronger than Yharim

[dusk laurel]

I'll wait and see when she gets reworked

but her theme just being mostly parts from other songs isn't helping her case

[robust osprey]

#GiveCalCloneAnActualTheme

[snow mountain]

kill cal clone

shrimple

[indigo glade]

How about we kill you?

[snow mountain]

nah

[limpid saddle]

Raw, Unfiltered Calamity ain't even bad

[dusk laurel]

The song isn't bad

no one said that

it just gives little to her character

[snow mountain]

i want cal clone killed, clean shot

[magic epoch]

i want incattus killed, clean shot

sorry that was mean

[limpid saddle]

B-b... based

[magic epoch]

i take that back

[dusk laurel]

it reflects the real calamitas better, rather than the clone herself

[robust osprey]

I can help you

[dusk laurel]

Banned for stuttering in a text message

[magic epoch]

no... it's rude...

[robust osprey]

I mean isnt any clone's purpose be the original but better

[magic epoch]

it adds comedic effect

[manic coral]

no

embrace your inner darkness

[limpid saddle]

I think their themes sharing something makes sense given they are a Clone

[manic coral]

put legos on the floor next

[magic epoch]

rage is consuming me

that one cat gif

[dusk laurel]

the meower of gods

[robust osprey]

thats straight up EVIL

[limpid saddle]

Well, no, the idea is to re-create the original perfectly

[magic epoch]

ihave to be so fr

[cosmic zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/how-it-feels-to-kill-people-brutally-murder-people-with-hatchets-and-whatnot-kill-people-kill-gif-2596525432085039944

[magic epoch]

stepping on legos was never that bad for me

i never got it...

[tall delta]

guys....what if xeroc is actually...gulp...terrarian's dad...?

[dusk laurel]

[magic epoch]

guys... what if... the terrarian

[robust osprey]

never cook again

[magic epoch]

iedont need to finish that statement

[robust osprey]

what if the terrarian is in a coma and everything is a dream

[limpid saddle]

C.C never had a life before she was busted out by Calamitas, either raised in white empty labs devoid of life, or grown in a tank until she was deemed a failure & shoved off to the side

[spring helm]

CalClone getting mountains of character development and implications with how necromancy and brimstone magics work only to be killed by the Terrarian mid hard mode

[magic epoch]

draedon should make more calclones because double the fun

[limpid saddle]

Her first experience at life is the brimstone flames searing her soul as they become irrevocably bound, Calamitas doesn't even help her through it she leaves her to wander through the night crying out in pain for people whose names she doesn't know why she knows

[robust osprey]

I feel so bad for permafrost...wait who

[dusk laurel]

Counterpoint

Brimstone eye

[snow mountain]

what was cal clone's involvement in the nutty putty cave incident

[mighty zenith]

[limpid saddle]

counter-point, she's still a human in that tank

[dusk laurel]

Brimstone eye

[mighty zenith]

[limpid saddle]

Thank you garbo

[dusk laurel]

I'm immune

Eats rock

[limpid saddle]

you're my goat 💖

[mighty zenith]

fills ur stomach with rocks

[robust osprey]

is that aureus rocks

[mighty zenith]

no its normal rocks

[dusk laurel]

Yum

[mighty zenith]

what the fuck are aureus rocks

[dusk laurel]

I love eating stones

[tall delta]

the nuclear auric soul

[dusk laurel]

Builds character

[robust osprey]

rocks made by many aureus

[mighty zenith]

aureful

[magic epoch]

the rocks in astrageldon catalyst

probably

[dusk laurel]

Her entire body is dissolved in water

[snow mountain]

what was cal clone's involvement in the nutty putty cave incident???

[dusk laurel]

The brimstone eye is just a fish tank

[mighty zenith]

the hwhat

[spring helm]

she made the cave

cruelty

[snow mountain]

no

[limpid saddle]

Why can't anyone be as autistic about Calamitas Clone as me

[mighty zenith]

tbh shes just kinda nothing rn

[magic epoch]

calclone is personally one of my favorite fights.......

I'm so quirky...

[limpid saddle]

That's so based

[snow mountain]

[dusk laurel]

I'm autistic about a sea serpent that's totally not stuck in the desert

[magic epoch]

that's most of them

[dusk laurel]

No

You're most of them

[magic epoch]

yeah most sea serpents aren't stuck in the desert

[magic epoch]

dude. knock it off. not cool

(

[dusk laurel]

Sorby

[magic epoch]

/pos

[dusk laurel]

World peace

[limpid saddle]

awesome

[snow mountain]

truly incredible

honestly quite incredible

[magic epoch]

honestly questionable

[dusk laurel]

inside of you there are 2 cats

meow

[magic epoch]

let them oute

[snow mountain]

honestly quite pluhful

but what does uhh uhhh uhhh uhh

john calamity taste like

[limpid saddle]

dirt

(but it's calamitous)

[tall delta]

goozma would win against yharim

[magic epoch]

with enough prep time

[limpid saddle]

True

[robust osprey]

goozma is a literal newborn when u fight it in hotog

give it some time and might be able to defeat yharim

[dusk laurel]

Slime fetus

Holy shit

We kill babies

[magic epoch]

with enough prep time batman goozma could beat anyone

[tall delta]

he can still defeat him as a newborn actually

[hoary berry]

what is it with you and foetuses

[dusk laurel]

Perennial fetus,,,

[magic epoch]

calval adds a fetus pet and I don't like it that much :(

[tall delta]

he is actually a fetus

[dusk laurel]

Incredible

I feel satisfied with this information

[robust osprey]

tbf the fetus tries to kill you the second it was born

[dusk laurel]

It's harmless

[split mortar]

Its a polterghast pet iirc

[dusk laurel]

[magic epoch]

correct zygote in a bucket

[magic epoch]

the calval thing j mentioned

[dusk laurel]

Oh

[magic epoch]

iedont think that's what you were talking about though

[dusk laurel]

Yeah

Yet another victim of reading comprehension devil

Praying for melon gun's recovery

[magic epoch]

no its completely fair

[split mortar]

Fuck you

[magic epoch]

your message could've been a reply to either

[dusk laurel]

Nevermind

I'm praying for your downfall now

[split mortar]

Evillin

[limpid saddle]

Villin

[dusk laurel]

Nough

this is

defamatory...

I'm suing both of you now

[magic epoch]

vanillain

[violet sparrow]

youre named after that gen 5 pokemon right

[split mortar]

No theyre named after the chemical vanillin

[violet sparrow]

dude shut up

[limpid saddle]

wow that was rude

[magic epoch]

Dude. Stop that. Not okay.

[hoary cape]

Rude admin

[mighty zenith]

we should kill

[robust osprey]

public execution

[spring helm]

what a calamity

[hoary cape]

Build the gallows

[thorn drift]

how long did the crusade last?

[mighty zenith]

around a century

[indigo glade]

If you think about it, nearly all of Yharim's army would've been indoctrinated as children.

[split mortar]

Around a century though yharim would say it never ended probably

[robust osprey]

it wouldnt be surprising tbh

[indigo glade]

I still wouldn't say it ended, personally.

As far as we know, Yharim just... left.

[robust osprey]

it's on pause

[indigo glade]

If an entire army pauses because the leader disappeared, you have a bad army.

[hoary cape]

Yharim's soldiers didn't have yharim's longevity so he probably saw some of them retire

Unless he found a way to give them longevity also

[limpid saddle]

There's also the fact alot of the dead ones got integrated into the Mechs

[thorn drift]

Actually, why DID yharim live for this long?

[robust osprey]

dragon

[thorn drift]

Hes just human in new lore no?

[limpid saddle]

He's bonded with Yharon's soul

Also he's built different

[indigo glade]

He's just that guy.

[thorn drift]

fair enough

[robust osprey]

too cool to die

[thorn drift]

he is a gigachad, i cant argue with that

[indigo glade]

(He quite literally trains every day, essentially non-stop, for over a hundred years. I'm not sure what else to say...)

[robust osprey]

even if he's this old yharim is still on his physical prime

[thorn drift]

Bro could solo goku with that workout regime /j

[indigo glade]

Reminds me of those martial arts masters that are extremely old but would win in a fight against anyone...

[hoary cape]

Having a bond with yharon gave yharim some buffs

[robust osprey]

I had one like that

bro was built different

[magic epoch]

Gun

[robust osprey]

shut

[split mortar]

?

[magic epoch]

Don't worry about it

[dusk laurel]

130

Normally you'd be in a nursing home by now

[indigo glade]

Normally, you'd be dead. The oldest verified age is around the 120's.

[dusk laurel]

Cool

Thanks for the ping btw

[indigo glade]

Yes, I know.

[indigo glade]

No problem.

[dusk laurel]

[indigo glade]

👍

[split mortar]

No promamsly

[dusk laurel]

No

I will broil you in oil

[dusk laurel]

[split mortar]

Not a thanka

A

[dusk laurel]

[mighty zenith]

[indigo glade]

👎

[mighty zenith]

i dont have glumbsdown

smh...

[dusk laurel]

fargocord

[mighty zenith]

not there

infercord only has

[dusk laurel]

Tragic...

[hoary cape]

Garbo more like skull issue

[stoic gulch]

Skill issue with that typo

[limpid saddle]

not very loreful today are we chat

[jolly adder]

do yall think the profaned guardians were humans or are just constructs made by providence?

[hoary berry]

humans

read their bestiary entries

and providence's

(bestiary entries are objective, unlike all other in-game sources)

[hoary cape]

Nah have you seen Garbo's skull?

[mighty zenith]

its perfect

[hoary cape]

Nah it's deformed

[mighty zenith]

your face is deformed

[hoary cape]

Skull issue

[mighty zenith]

[hoary cape]

If mine is yours is even worse

XD

Lore accurate conversation

[mighty zenith]

what does that even mean

[hoary cape]

I have no clue

[mighty zenith]

those strings of words just mean absolute nonsense to me

you little weird little rat thing

[hoary cape]

I was saying if my face is deformed that means yours would have to be even more deformed

Clearly

Because your skull is

[mighty zenith]

not how that works buddy boy

[hoary cape]

It is when you have a skull issue

But actually I meant skill issue

For not having an emote

[limpid saddle]

They were Providence's pre-ascension adventuring party, each of their lore entries describe how each argued their virtues & right to ascend before their Shieldmaiden, (Providence), stepped forward & completed the ritual, basically semi-ascending her adventuring party into her Paladins

[clear girder]

How was Yharim connected in the making of polterghast?

[robust osprey]

yharim used the dungeon as a prision

and polter is made by souls trapped there

trapped by the man himself

alteast thats what I remember

[clear girder]

so he basically let many people die

[robust osprey]

yes he killed around 300M

[clear girder]

all of those people were in the dungeon?

[robust osprey]

no

not all of them

but some

and well probably LC also threw people there

to sacrifice them or something, cultism behaviour

[clear girder]

[limpid saddle]

To my understanding the Lunatic Cultist agreed to let Yharim's armies use the Dungeon as a prison for, well, torturing POW's for information, this went on smoothly until around a bit after the Devourer Of Gods showed up, where the Lunatic Cultist revealed the only secret he held from him, the existence of the Ceaseless Void within the dungeon, after that encounter it seems to have spooked Yharim so bad he cut off all communications & supply lines to the dungeons, leaving his men & the prisoners to starve, their languished betrayed souls congealing into Polterghast

At least that's how I percieve the timeline here

Presumably the Dragon Cultists hauled ass after everything went south

[stoic gulch]

Pancake form

[cloud ibex]

I’ve seen turtle skeletons before yes

Not real ones but like

In books

[nova light]

I mean I would be scared if one day my job coworkers revealed to me they had a fuckin black hole as a pet

[limpid saddle]

Not even bro Yharim didn't know it but he was having a staring contest with Noxus himself & the Tyrant blinked first

[nova light]

I mean yharim might be all the badass that he wants he still isnt a God like noxus

[random mulch]

noxus isnt a god

we dont really know what noxus is but it's not a god

[cloud ibex]

the only thing we know it is is bad vibes

[pliant ruin]

If it was a god yharim would jump in the portal rather than being scared of it

[cloud ibex]

it would be kinda funny if Yharon can sense godly souls because they contain residual Auric soul matter

so you'd have him tracking down gods like a cartoon bloodhound aggressively sniffing the ground

[hoary berry]

reminds me of what popcorn wrote in the build up to a one piece joke about silva

As a mortal attuned to a Dragon, Yharim was able to sense the presence of auric souls, though it was faint. Although the ritual for Godly Ascension permanently destroyed the Auric Soul, it was done through assimilation. As such, traces of their domains could still be felt, even if they were near indistinguishable from the cosmic background that the Primordial Light painted through the universe.

[spare pier]

IN THE BUILDUP TO WHAT

[hoary berry]

rebecca summoning ritual

[split mortar]

Pfft

[limpid saddle]

rebecca do you have any thoughts on Calamitas Clone

[spare pier]

I like it

[limpid saddle]

this is re-assuring as the server's #1 C.C fan

she has so much depth & potential to her character

both individualistically & a representation of Calamitas's development as a character throught & after the Crusades

[pliant ruin]

Well

i wouldn't say she has depth right now

she has like

nothing

but potential i agree

[swift badger]

Noxus is armed and dangerous

[manic coral]

i mean the "armed" part is debatable too technically

what qualifies as an arm

[split mortar]

Legs

[swift badger]

armed as in having a tool to kill

[late veldt]

Armed usually implies

physical armament

[swift badger]

FireArm

[swift badger]

ts too

[languid badge]

Only because supernatural armaments are hard to come by in our world

[indigo glade]

Armless fugitive on the run and is armed and dangerous.

[sleek halo]

he could have arms…

what if Noxus is an arm

just a big ol arm

[tropic oak]

lore discussion

[swift badger]

do arms have arms

or are fingers the arms?

[sleek halo]

true!

[sleek halo]

who tf

is ab

[swift badger]

i misspelled arm

it was meant to be "an"

but i misspeled ab

[manic coral]

abs

noxus with abs

anyways

[sleek halo]

dreamy

LOL

[manic coral]

this month will be interesting

[sleek halo]

im so sorry 😭

[manic coral]

highly likely Deltarune chapters 3&4 release

[tropic oak]

noxus with abs…..

[manic coral]

The Watcher DLC for Rain World

[split mortar]

YO???

[swift badger]

will they release together?

[sleek halo]

oh yea

[swift badger]

i thought chapter 4 is still in works

[manic coral]

Xenoblade X releasing on consolse that aren't the Wii U

[sleek halo]

it’s march

[manic coral]

[sleek halo]

wowzerd

[manic coral]

no it's done

3 and 4 are both entirely done

[swift badger]

ooo

[manic coral]

jsut being tested

and all that's left is Playstation testing

PC and Xbox testing is done

[swift badger]

Deltarune fans are eating good

[manic coral]

and PC, Xbox, and Switch testing combined seemed to take less than a month

soooo

yeah probably this month i'm expecting

[swift badger]

gotta start a new save

[sleek halo]

so peam!!

me who has never played deltarune:

[indigo glade]

Play it.

[sleek halo]

well i played chaoter 1

[split mortar]

Play it

[sleek halo]

but then i gotnlazy

[split mortar]

Play it

[indigo glade]

Un-lazy yourself.

[sleek halo]

:3

[split mortar]

Unlazy beam go

[sleek halo]

Imm supposed to be finishing up writing something

so that wouldnbe so peak

[split mortar]

I think i know what it is…

[manic coral]

though given it's a lil unclear if it's ENTIRELY done yet or not but it seems to be mostly done

[sleek halo]

yes

[split mortar]

🔥

[manic coral]

I don't think expecting a March release is unreasonable tbh

[sleek halo]

also the distortion and noxus stuff

[manic coral]

March or early April

[sleek halo]

will need to start writingnthat down

today

[manic coral]

I wouldn't put it past them to release on April 1st to fuck with people

[sleek halo]

toby would totally

donthat

[split mortar]

Ok yeah i see that

[split mortar]

Yeah

[sleek halo]

Imm glad he’s successful

he seems like he deserves it

[manic coral]

toby fox is a cool dude yeah

[sleek halo]

also he has made

one of my favorite pokemon tracks

ever

battle! zero lab

[indigo glade]

Deltarune today.

[sleek halo]

is so fucking

good

[manic coral]

i haven't talked to him myself obviously to know but i actually do know some people who have and the consensus among them is

yeah he's cool

[indigo glade]

Walk up to him.

And talk.

[sleek halo]

https://youtu.be/pTj1v1sAYXQ?si=yL8cqU3fmWNCYu3F

[split mortar]

Gain the untold power to make sans in calamity

[sleek halo]

Genuinely so good

for a final boss

theme

like holy shit

S/V soundtrack

by far

is my favorite pokemon soundtrack

the only rival is gen 5

[languid badge]

I'm ngl I felt gen 9's soundtrack was underwhelming

like its not bad by any means but outside the final boss, tera raids, and a few standouts from the dlc nothing really stuck out to me

[sleek halo]

fsir

I will say

no town theme better than drifloon city…

[split mortar]

Whats that one?

[languid badge]

anistar is my personal favorite town theme I won't lie

[sleek halo]

i guarantee you’ve heard it

it is a very popular song LOL

[split mortar]

Driftveil you mean?

[sleek halo]

oop it’s driftveil city

[split mortar]

Yeah i was thinking that one

[sleek halo]

I mixed up drifloon lmao

the pokemon

[swift badger]

i played chapter 1 and 2 but forgot to do the secret bosses

[dusk laurel]

This is like thunder asking about the molecular structures of every single material in calamity

[split mortar]

You say that like its a bad thing

[dusk laurel]

It isn't

just common questions people ask

[swift badger]

Calamitas Clone is a..... clone?

[dusk laurel]

Yes

[clear girder]

yup

[limpid saddle]

I just want other people to see the depth of her character 💔

[swift badger]

🤯

[manic coral]

no

:/

[dusk laurel]

Finally

[clear girder]

not a perfect clone tho

[dusk laurel]

It is a perfect clone

biologically

[split mortar]

It is

[clear girder]

it is?

[swift badger]

perfect?

[manic coral]

they're clearly vigintiquintuplets

[swift badger]

https://tenor.com/view/cell-perfect-cell-hyper-realistic-hyper-realistic-cell-hyper-realistic-perfect-cell-gif-1635843172149104674

[languid badge]

thing that looks like calamitas who's relation to calamitas has never been conclusively determined

[swift badger]

bruh

💔

[split mortar]

Yes it is the exact same genetic makeup as calamitas

iirc

[sleek halo]

truly

peak writing

[split mortar]

Calamitas power just isnt naturally hers so the clone didnt get the post ml fuck you brimstone power

[dusk laurel]

Cei can you canonize the perennial fetus 🙏

[sleek halo]

mfw one of the strongest beings ever is just

a depressed & traumatized 25-30 yr old

[late veldt]

you are trying to milk this bit like a cow

[indigo glade]

Stop.

[languid badge]

that is most fantasy stories tbf

[late veldt]

Your lightning in a bottle has long since vanished. the wonder is gone

[manic coral]

i'll canonize your father leaving you does that work instead

[dusk laurel]

That works

[split mortar]

But we gotta find out its relation ti the microwave

[manic coral]

[dusk laurel]

No

[late veldt]

Did Draedon invent a microwave burrito? that sounds like an important thing to invent

[indigo glade]

Of course! It is the best meal to give to his workers. Packed with all the needed nutrients in a compact and easy-to-eat form.

[dusk laurel]

Whatever you say ai

[split mortar]

Seeker of ai

[manic coral]

probably

[indigo glade]

You're an AI.

[dusk laurel]

glutton bug uses ai

ever thought of that

[indigo glade]

No, it doesn't.

It just uses "I".

Intelligence.

Real ones.

[dusk laurel]

it's stupid

[late veldt]

we're all ai we're just on advanced fleshy hardware and highly advanced software

[dusk laurel]

it needs to have ai injected into its veins

[indigo glade]

Are you saying creatures that aren't smart aren't intelligent?

[dusk laurel]

i think you're on to something

[manic coral]

you know there's this really cool race in No Man's Sky of reconstructed, highly individulistic robots who managed to build themselves, who refer to other beings as "prebuilt entities"

udner the logic of evolving and developing naturaly being the universe pre-building you, in a way

vs. them who constructed and made every part of themselves via their own will

sorta running with a simmilar vien of logic of what you said

they're claled the Autophage and they're cool and @cloud ibex would love them

now that i think about it

[sleek halo]

autophage is a fire name

[manic coral]

those guys are totally up leon's alley

[cloud ibex]

[sleek halo]

[manic coral]

hello im talking about cool robots

[sleek halo]

WHY is this not an emoji here

[manic coral]

as said their society is HIGHLY individualistic and they most travel nomadically

[manic coral]

and yes they do not have gender or anything like that either or even tradtional jobs

[sleek halo]

oh it’s a sticker

emoji better :/

[dusk laurel]

stickers are lame

[sleek halo]

takes up less space

[manic coral]

they pride themselves on each one of them and their robotic bodies being unique in all the universe

[sleek halo]

that’s a good sticker

[manic coral]

so basiclaly they

the Autophage are really cool

[dusk laurel]

i like this one

[sleek halo]

whwt do they do..

[late veldt]

oh damne that's cool

[manic coral]

semi-religious, highly individualistic nomadic robots who travel looking to improve themselves to be the best version of themselves they can

they also use staves instead of guns

which unlike guns you cannot buy one of

as per tradtion and how their society works, like them

you have to make your own

via parts you collect

by going and getting parts to make it yourself the same ways the autophage make THEIR staves and even themselves

it's cool exploring the idea of ways a society of machines and AI could potentially be even more individualistic than our own rather than the opposite that is usually exploring

also semi-religious robots are cool

i say semi-religious because like, they don't believe in a higher power or anything

[limpid saddle]

I'm assuming they don't really have any need for any form of organized society then if there are no consequences to their individualist life-style?

[manic coral]

but possess like their own creation myth for why they exist and have an almost religious-like code and stuff

[manic coral]

ye

they cna have some amount of cotnact with eachother but

they mostly travel in small groups of 3-7

you won't find them in tradtional settlements and you normally can't even see them

you need special late-game scanning technology to even see them

[limpid saddle]

what are these from, again?

[manic coral]

No Man's Sky

[limpid saddle]

huh

neat

[sleek halo]

Glad that game finally became good

was a horrific few years

[limpid saddle]

It got good like 6 years ago now it's just been overkill

[manic coral]

they got fucked over so hard with the initial release stuff

[limpid saddle]

like good overkill

[indigo glade]

I'm more of a Yes Woman's Earth fan myself.

[sleek halo]

yeah

shit was rough

[dusk laurel]

[manic coral]

yeah their obligation to update the game with new stuff was fufilled like

bakc in 2020/2021 arguably

[sleek halo]

ye

[manic coral]

at thsi point it's far more than was was ever initially promised

with the gadditions of things like water worlds, gas giants, entirely new star types, exocrafts, being able to run entire settlements, hell you can say "fuck it" and be a god damn pirate now

and while it's not the best written game for sure, in terms of the concepts it presents and how it messes and plays with them, it's really fucking cool

see: my entire rant about the Autophage being cool as hell

also fishing

fishing exists now

you can fish on gas giants even

there are gas giant exclusive fish

[split mortar]

Every game gotta have the fishin

[manic coral]

also an in-depth cooking system

me spending 35 minutes trying to tigure out how the fuck to make bread

[split mortar]

Pfft

[manic coral]

but yeah thhe glow-up the game has gotten over the years is INSANE

[indigo glade]

I thought you were talking about real life for a second...

[dusk laurel]

stupid bug

[manic coral]

it is actually one of the ebst games ever now imo if it's your type of thing

[late veldt]

ebst

[manic coral]

i will say it's one of those games where if you try to rush to do every objective you cna get immedaitly

you probably won't have a huge amount of fun

it is one of those games really about the journey more than trying to do everything you can immediatly

fuck! i wnat to go bakc to playing now

but i have other obligations!

must write more Thunderstriken stuff

[sleek halo]

the writer

[wheat walrus]

🆚

[sleek halo]

stop

[wheat walrus]

[tall delta]

keep going actually

[manic coral]

indeed

i do, in fact, write

[wheat walrus]

[manic coral]

it is what i am most well known for online

[tall delta]

gojo mogs providence calamity mod

[manic coral]

byeah have focused on Thudnerstriken more the past few days since SSO stuff is

yeah

taking a long time

so not quite as motivated

[wheat walrus]

[wheat walrus]

[manic coral]

also just a lil unhappy with the direction some things have taken recently so could use a lil time away from working on cal ig

[indigo glade]

I love Thudnerstriken.

[manic coral]

you dont even know what its about

[wheat walrus]

why did the thunder strike

[manic coral]

[indigo glade]

No, it is thudner.

[wheat walrus]

iirc it's about hunders striking

[manic coral]

oh i misspelt

whatever

i am tired

[wheat walrus]

[indigo glade]

Go sleep.

[tall delta]

this is horrible

burn it

[dusk laurel]

🗡️

[wheat walrus]

isn't it like morning in Cei's great grand america

[manic coral]

no im tired because i woke up recently

[indigo glade]

Oh.

[wheat walrus]

the prediction

[wheat walrus]

[indigo glade]

Inject pure caffeine into your body.

[wheat walrus]

devour gods

[manic coral]

also need to finish tax stuff tomorrow becuase i was employed for like half of the year so now i must do taxes

[indigo glade]

I feel so sorry for you.

[manic coral]

though yeah lost the job due to medical shit

i didnt have insurance at the time so couldn't really go to the doctor about it

¯_(ツ)_/¯

or get a doctor's note

[wheat walrus]

me after slotting in Evade Window lv5 and and Evade Extender lv3 (the taxes are never reaching me)

anyways gl actually Cei

[manic coral]

becuase they wouldn't accept any ntoe not from my "regular doctor"

which, again

no insurance at the time

i didn't have one

[manic coral]

ty :D

[cosmic zenith]

Could you tell me?

[late veldt]

So like

do we know who any of the last surviving dragons were?

aside from Yharon

[hoary cape]

Mammoth dragon

[wheat walrus]

equal dragon weapon...

[hoary cape]

It died in the ice biome

[cosmic zenith]

Not confirmed to be one of the last surviving

[wheat walrus]

yes because I eated it all

[light linden]

hi stip

[mighty zenith]

how can i make this about monhun 😈

[snow mountain]

Why has the mammoth dragon idea persisted for so long?

[wheat walrus]

now I have become omnammoth, the god of giant mammoths

[wheat walrus]

true

[hoary cape]

I only guessed MMD because it's the only one that I know has a corpse sitting somewhere which generally implies it died more recently, but being in the ice biome could just mean it got preserved

[spare pier]

YOU CAN BE WHAT

[mighty zenith]

[hoary berry]

one piece...

[mighty zenith]

this is beyond brainrot

this is braindecomposition

[hoary berry]

the summoning ritual has expanded to adjacent words now

[amber cedar]

[indigo glade]

A pirate...

Just like...

That one...

||Movie.||

||Pirates of the Caribbean.||

[mighty zenith]

like
that one
lazy town song

[amber cedar]

you are a pirate

[hoary berry]

[mighty zenith]

[spare pier]

Man I wished I could fully explore Genshin's map without having to do 40 trillion World Quests

😔

Anyways uuuh

[mighty zenith]

gacha games when you dont want to spend 50000 hours on side quests that give you like fuckall

[hoary berry]

make every world quest as long as aranara
make the game's length 800x longer

[spare pier]

The horrors

[split mortar]

Ew

[split mortar]

Ew

[split mortar]

Ew

[hoary berry]

if i throw a piece of paper with glorp on it into the alpha centauri system will you cross the 4.2 light year gap to get there just to say "ew"

guh it's actually more like 4.3 apparently...

[dusk laurel]

@split mortar

[light linden]

hi rebecca

[split mortar]

Ew

[dusk laurel]

:(

[mighty zenith]

[split mortar]

Ew

[mighty zenith]

youre dead

glorped

[snow mountain]

duende detected

[split mortar]

Nuh uh

[mighty zenith]

[snow mountain]

NO MARCIANITO

[dusk laurel]

➡️

[split mortar]

Why would you do this to them they were perfectly fine as not a glorp you fcuking bitch

[dusk laurel]

evolution

[snow mountain]

duende

[mighty zenith]

the first one genuinely feels wrong

it doesnt look real

its an edit of glorp

[dusk laurel]

very likely

idfk

[wheat walrus]

Important distinction between Greelinus and Glorp

The former is a primitive species that wholly relies on its own incredibile brutality and aggression. It lacks ears but makes up with its sharp sight. It was believed to be extinct until recently, and there are rumors of a fiercer and red subspecies floating around.

The latter is a modern species, it evolved antennae as a form of sensory organ and for sophisticated communication. It is less reliant on brutality and more on sophisticated strategies and coordination as they are incredibly social.

lowk wanna write more of ts

[dusk laurel]

[snow mountain]

DUENDE

NO MARCIANITO

ALIENS FUCK OFF

[mild obsidian]

PROTECTIVE SHIELD

PROTECTIVE SHIELD

[snow mountain]

PROTECTIVE SHIELD

[mighty zenith]

FUCK YOU ALIEN

FUCK YOU ALIEN

[mild obsidian]

ACTIVATE ALARM CANNOT APPROACH

[snow mountain]

NO MARCIANITO, NO DUENDES

[mild obsidian]

NO DRACULAS

[light linden]

?

[hoary cape]

Very lore related

[light linden]

hey which dev is making the chrysadia lore?

[split mortar]

Id imagine stipulate venus

[light linden]

@cosmic zenith hey can I ask a question about chrysadia?

[cosmic zenith]

Sure!

Chrysadia is uh

[light linden]

how did people breathe up there?

[cosmic zenith]

Literally all mine

They probably struggled to some extent in the beginning, but like human populations in real life, they can just adapt

[split mortar]

Rain world pfp

[light linden]

ik people can build a resistance to low oxygen environments but idk if the nation was all at one altitude

[cosmic zenith]

How is that a problem though, being at the same altitude

[light linden]

differences in air pressure and oxygen amounts

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah but are you aware how people adapt to low oxygen environments...?

[split mortar]

-# i mean, terrarian seems to handle it fine and so do npcs long term

[light linden]

a bit, I do live pretty high up

[cosmic zenith]

Tldr, their hemoglobin carries oxygen a lot more efficiently
So changes in oxygen amounts are not as problematic

As to pressure differences, I'm not entirely sure there's a real-life parallel, but I do think there could be a physiological compensation

[light linden]

I mean

deep sea animals REALLY hate water pressure changes

[sinful adder]

what's the air presssure like up there anyways? Terraria isn't earth, and we can breathe just fine in space

[split mortar]

The sky gets black and it is low orbit so i assume generally lowee

[sinful adder]

Also: were there any sky island places besides chrysidia?

[light linden]

there's undoubtably less air

[sinful adder]

somehow we can still breathe with no visible air, its weird

[light linden]

it's kind of a gradient

[timid lotus]

who chrysadia

[split mortar]

Sky civilisation

[timid lotus]

ohhh

like sunken see

do they also have a gofd

[light linden]

also another thing stip, was aerialite a thing before or after chrysadia's fall?

[light linden]

nope

[split mortar]

They had a dragon instead

Vetrasyl

[light linden]

it got destroyed before gods existed

[split mortar]

Dragon of storms

[timid lotus]

ah

[cosmic zenith]

Aerialite is as old as Chrysadia, and it continued to be a thing after Chrysadia was "destroyed"

It's still there in present day, after all

[split mortar]

iirc it was still existent for a bit afterwards

But fovos prob set it off to a innevitable death

[timid lotus]

vetra is storm weaver from chrysadia

[split mortar]

Storm weaver is from distortion

[timid lotus]

rlly?

[split mortar]

Yeah

[timid lotus]

hu

[split mortar]

Partly why yharim thought it the same species as DoG

[timid lotus]

so all rune of kos guys relate to distorion

and dog

[split mortar]

Yeah

[light linden]

yes

ceaseless void is a portal with a bunch of magic seals on it

storm weaver is a worm that flies around wreaking havoc in the upper atmosphere eating wyverns

[split mortar]

Ceaseless is the longest lasting known portal to distortion
Signus is a faustian dealmaker
Storm weaver is a super predator older then dog
Dog is a minion of Noxus

[timid lotus]

man why dont devs make distortion a thing

subworld

[split mortar]

Theyre going to

[split mortar]

Thats the plan

[hoary cape]

It takes time

[light linden]

signus is a cunning dealmaker who making a deal with is like making a deal with the devil

[timid lotus]

mmm

[hoary cape]

They have other things to work on before hand

[split mortar]

Just that its going to be on the later end of updates

[timid lotus]

so noxus and signus are main controllers of distortion?

[light linden]

yes and no

noxus is the main one

[split mortar]

As far as we know yeah

[light linden]

signus just does its own thing and seemingly isn't stopped by noxus

[split mortar]

Signus and noxus are equal in the hierarchy iirc

[light linden]

not in power though

that's a key difference

[split mortar]

Signus appears in multiple places at once so idk maybe its doing a thing sand and cloud do and is split across multiple bodies

[light linden]

oh also another thing

later on we might be able to make deals of our own with signus

[sinful adder]

Are there any other sky islands outside of Chrysadia?

[split mortar]

Dragon aerie

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah

Other than those, unclear

Probably not gonna be elaborated upon

[dusk laurel]

people live on the himalayas

and afaik tulsa and oklahoma as a whole is not that high up

[light linden]

there's a few "mountains"

reason for the "" is because their names call them mountains but idk if they're tall enough

[dusk laurel]

fair enough

[frozen zodiac]

what kind of deals do you think would be offered? would it be similar to the weapon enchantments where each one has a drawback? maybe its specifically focused on your base statistics instead of damage?

something like "horizontal movement increased, but ramming into enemies or walls deals damage to yourself"

[light linden]

well uh

considering the only deal we know about is uh

it wanted a leg and arm from someone in exchange for being let out of the distortion

[sinful adder]

Wait hold on, other than the dragon aerie?

don't need more details just wether more besides those two groups exist

Hey wait what if cave story was canon to calamity

I can't actually think of anything that prevents this from being the case with how their worlds work

[frozen zodiac]

isn't there a cave story gun that you can craft

the one that levels up

[tepid timber]

They’re not very high up

[cosmic zenith]

They are the only confirmed ones

[jovial stream]

Are there any other living dragons than Yharon?

[indigo glade]

Auric ones? No.

[cosmic zenith]

^

[sleek halo]

which tbh

makes the most sense

when the dud

who can come back from fucking death

barely survived

yeah no everyone else is uh… fucked

[tidal tulip]

after fovos was sealed in the moon, how long did it take for the draconic purges to start? and how long did it last until the last dragon was killed?

[eager bluff]

for people to start killing dragons? only a couple months if that
as for the last auric dragon, hes still alive

[tidal tulip]

my apologies but, not including yharon for the second question

[eager bluff]

for that i dont think we have a concrete timeline

[tidal tulip]

maybe we'll know more in sso

[eager bluff]

we mostly just know that it didnt take long at all for news of xerocs ascension to spread

[tidal tulip]

"news spread like wildfire" yeah, i think you're right on the few months part. i'm curious to know when the last non-immortal dragon was killed. after that, i'd like to know how "the gods thought him [yharon] culled with the rest of his kind" line makes sense, since wouldn't after hundreds of years, yharon would constantly die and rebirth? and if his egg was hidden on the aerie, and someone as espionage specialized as draedon can't locate it, how was yharon's egg found?

[glacial rampart]

I mean assuming a big fucking insignia appeared in the sky when it happened

yeah i figure

or even just

the fucking sun

[abstract gyro]

Wait Aerie is a sky island? I imagined it to be a big ass mountain

[limpid saddle]

The Dragon Aerie is a series of floating islands in some impossible space that is very hard to find

If you're looking for a Dragon Aerie that is a mountain, go play Dark Souls 2

[limpid saddle]

Yharon isn't immortal, he can definetly be killed, just the process of his murder is very obnoxious

& to my understanding he can also just keel over from old age & re-birth himself

& each re-birth takes 10 years in his little egg

& he evaded capture for like 600 years so presumably most people didn't know he was alive, even most of the Gods, some would assume

Also also, according to some dev statements, Draedon's inability to locate the Aerie has something to do with him being specifically a robot

The place seems vaugely connected to souls, which makes sense, since it's where every Auric Dragon re-incarnated for thousands of years until Xeroc decided to fuck shit up & get freaky

[split mortar]

Oh wait wha
Can i see that?

[limpid saddle]

Wait were you not there for that?

It was the whole 'you cant break anything in the aerie because we cant tell you' discussion

[split mortar]

I dont know that statement no

Oh

It was said during that convo?

[limpid saddle]

yeah

At some point somebody asked about Draedon's inability to find the Aerie, & Cei I think alluded to the places true nature & said it was impossible for him to find it or go there on his own

& that when Yharim finally gets added we'll have the option with the communicator to tell him about the Aerie

[split mortar]

I know that part

Somehow missed the first half

[limpid saddle]

well how do we think we got to the second half?

[split mortar]

Good point

Ima go re read that convo

[limpid saddle]

I might be mis-remembering a little though

[hoary berry]

#lore-discussion message are you referring to this?

[split mortar]

Talked here

[limpid saddle]

Yeah they said it like it was physically impossible for him to find it (thus literally)

So we know the Aerie's on some seriously weird magic shit & something Draedon either does have that he shouldn't- or doesn't have that he should, is preventing him from being able to succesfully search out the Aerie

[hoary berry]

i mean i think this theory is pretty convincing

[hoary berry]

but i'm not totally sold on draedon not being able to find the aerie being a him issue

when i was lurking for that convo, i interpreted cei's reference to draedon as just like
even the entity who probably has some of the most extensive geographical knowledge of Terraria (i say "some of" because maybe xeroc is a geography nerd ) doesn't have a clue where it is, because it's just hidden in such an extraordinary way
not as a hint that being a robot is what's holding him back

[split mortar]

Wait not even xeroc can locate it

[hoary berry]

?

[split mortar]

What

[hoary berry]

that's not what i said, i was just saying that xeroc might be a geography nerd. we don't know

[split mortar]

Oh

[tidal tulip]

xeroc can locate it with ease i assume

[hoary berry]

yeah

[tidal tulip]

since the rock is from the aerie

[hoary berry]

that's what i assume too

i sort of headcanon it as him being able to locate the Grave of Light from literally anywhere, but that's just because i think it's a cool idea, not based on any evidence that suggests he can't locate it through whatever the 'normal' means are

[tidal tulip]

i always suspected the rock item would play a key part in locating the dragon aerie, but it's too soon to tell.

[mighty zenith]

nah, it won't

[tidal tulip]

good to know

[mighty zenith]

we'll get to the aerie before the boss rush

[tidal tulip]

oh wow really?

damn

that changes things

[mighty zenith]

it's where we'll fight yharim after all

[limpid saddle]

Yeah Boss Rush is gonna be swapped around to be post Yharim

[tidal tulip]

god, your mention of headcanons reminded me of my metric ton of headcanons

a lot goes on in my mind about the terrarian

[limpid saddle]

There was however a mostly joke suggestion of being able to do boss rush 500 times to get 500 rocks & make Dragon Aerie Rock armor

[mighty zenith]

[tidal tulip]

oh yeah i saw that lol, the aerie supposedly having to be insanely durable to withstand blows from Yharim

[hoary berry]

my ten thousand word document of calamity headcanons:

[tidal tulip]

alright

you put me to shame

LMAO

my headcanons alter over time

[split mortar]

It withstood fucking

FOVOS

[tidal tulip]

oh yeah that's true

[mighty zenith]

though the fact we can easily place and break the rock means it's the aerie itself that makes it so durable

[tidal tulip]

and fovos is apparently only slightly weaker than xeroc?

[limpid saddle]

Fovos the ultimate crash-out ong

[split mortar]

Bduebfhf

[hoary berry]

technically i could include several other documents in the count too, but they're a mix of headcanons and just actual fanfiction so i can't be bothered

[mighty zenith]

it took xeroc's insane strength to even carve out a little pebble

[split mortar]

Full power fovos is bult for defense and regen more then condensed attack

So even if full power fovos was stringer then just ascended xeroc the only attack that could possibly harm the aerie is the phantasmal deathray

[limpid saddle]

Well we dont break the rock we pick it up

[mighty zenith]

we can place and break it

[limpid saddle]

Presumably it's normal rock weight just y'know impossibly durable

[split mortar]

Yeah but we dont harm the rock

[limpid saddle]

Exactly

[split mortar]

Its still completely fine after we “break” it

[mighty zenith]

i guess

[sinful adder]

The terminus is made out of the same rock...

Ana carved into a vaguely bladey thing

[split mortar]

Wait really?

[split mortar]

Headcanon for why anahita is so weak at full power despite being a full elemental

You fight her on the shore, less water then normal for her so she has less access to that which she is a elemental of

[pliant ruin]

believable

[hollow isle]

i always thought itd be cool if that fight was forced to take place underwater

for that same reason

also correct me if im wrong but anahita is like by far the strongest elemental we encounter, is she not?

[split mortar]

Sadly vanilla ocean is

Eh
In terms of size

[hollow isle]

cause like she's competing with brimmy, cloud, sand

all of whom she's far stronger than

[split mortar]

While she is
Brimmy is weakened and her prime is easily post ml
Sand and cloud are split across like 5009 bodies
Silva is probably the strongest just that yharim hapoened

[hollow isle]

oh silva was one

gotcha

[split mortar]

Anahita is as far as we know
A full elemental
In her prime

Yet she is not much above brimmy who is heavily weakened

[hollow isle]

also how come brimmy doesn't get a name despite anahita and silva having one

is there a reason or just that they dont have one in mind

[split mortar]

iirc she will at some point

@dusk laurel you a spoilerer nerd can you confirm?

[hollow isle]

my personal headcanon was that her name was lost to time in the destruction of azafure

[limpid saddle]

Brimmy is planned to be the most monsterous & in-human of the Elementals post-rework, & I believe I recall Rebecca feeling a name would humanize her too much

given you know, she woke up, (accidentally?) gave a 10 year-old super-powers & then did a genocide

[hollow isle]

wait is brimmy the source of calamitas' powers???

[limpid saddle]

yeah bro

it's 'BRIMSTONE magic'

she is in the name

[hollow isle]

i knew they had the same stuff but i didnt realize she gave her the powers

why did she do that

[limpid saddle]

It didn't seem to be on purpose it just kinda happened

[hollow isle]

ah

[limpid saddle]

I think it's something to do with her contact to it causing a strange siphon affect, like what happened to the Calamitas Clone

[magic epoch]

Calamitas' gear was high enough level to have fire absorption

[limpid saddle]

There's something specific about Calamitas, both in body & soul, that makes her strangely capable of wielding it

[split mortar]

We dunno the specifics but

Brimmy wakes up, post ml strong
Child gets powers and the fight, its a tie
Suddenly much later the child is hyper post ml and the elemental is equal to a mech boss

[limpid saddle]

Calamitas Clone only had half of that, & her own, different soul, & well, we saw how that went

[hollow isle]

so how is calamitas superior by such a wide margin

just training?

[split mortar]

Absorbed the power

Calamitas sponge theory

[limpid saddle]

Because she basically stole all of the Brimstone Elemental's magic

[hollow isle]

and that left brimmy in the state where we fight her

[limpid saddle]

& we KNOW it isn't that

[split mortar]

iirc by dev statements

Cal barely grew in actual raw power via training

[limpid saddle]

Because Calamitas's magic literally cannot get stronger, according to I think Rebecca during a power-scaling discussion with Omni

[split mortar]

Just skill at wielding it

[limpid saddle]

Exactly

Training only makes her more efficient

[untold oracle]

Wasn’t it that brimmy is literally just a monster she doesn’t deserve a name

[limpid saddle]

I KNEW IT

im so smart