lore-discussion

[gritty kraken]

3 hours yharim cutscene

[manic coral]

but there will be more explicit ones

[split mortar]

Aerie is world soul

[limpid saddle]

Peak...

[manic coral]

notice, for exmaple, how Draedon literally cannot find the aerie

like

he has seen everywhere in the world basically

and he doesn't know where the fuck it even is

he's HEARD about it. enough so that he knows it EXISTS. it HAS to.

[split mortar]

Aerie is whats left of the world soul

[gritty kraken]

aerie is all in the worthy mind

[manic coral]

but he sure as all fuck can't find it

[deft vessel]

The real aeria was the friends we made along the way. And since Draedon has not firends, he cant find it. Simple

[manic coral]

so true!

once you are able to go to the aerie you will be able to tell Draedon what is up with it though

[split mortar]

So the rock we get from boss rush outscales yharim

[manic coral]

yes

[split mortar]

PFFFT

[manic coral]

unironically

or i suppose we can say

[split mortar]

WE CAN BEAT HIS HEAD IN WITH THE ROCK

[manic coral]

unirockially

[limpid saddle]

what if you tell draedon he's your friend

[mighty zenith]

it would be so fucking funny if you could throw the rock

[pliant ruin]

holy shit

[mighty zenith]

and if you throw it at yharim it completely breaks his armor

[pliant ruin]

invincible s3 e6 is literally tackling basically the same debate as the calamitas illmeris morality one

i just got done with it

[manic coral]

throw the rock it it immeidaly brings him from whatever he's at above 100% down to 100%

[split mortar]

Cheese are you aware the rock from bossrush outscales yharim

[pliant ruin]

i literally was like in a small debate abt this earlier today

[mighty zenith]

its like in cartoons when someone hits something with a hammer and they break like porcelaine instead of the thing

[split mortar]

And its a normal ass rock from the aerie

[limpid saddle]

Concussion status effect on yharim for the rest of the fight

[pliant ruin]

this episode of invincible is the perfect representation of the consequences of calamitas burning illmeris and the nuance of it

i LITERALLY

WAS JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS

EARLIER TODAY

its the same fucking thing

invincible ripped off calamity trust

[manic coral]

his entire p1 to p2 monologue gets slurred becuase of it

[abstract gyro]

Yeah I do realize that art is inspired by other art like 90% (if not 100%) of the time... but even knowing that, it still feels like what I do is not unique enough. Maybe I just need to show things to people and trust them instead of judging things myself...

How much of the process of creating is analytical and how much is spontaneous to you? In other words, how much of the process is you actively thinking about what makes a story good and implementing that, and how much is you just writing a story because/when you've got a surge of inspiration? Percentage-wise or idk

[manic coral]

20/80

[limpid saddle]

[manic coral]

honestly i won't lie i'm jsut familier enough with certain aspects of these things that i cna just

naturally make stuff work out while keeping that sort stuff in the back of my head

though i do like to figure out starts and endings first

[pliant ruin]

like the entire story is about this grieving man who lost everything thanks to invincible's fight with his dad killing his family and stuff so he wants to take revenge on invincible and you cannot blame him on the slightest but at the same time mark wasn't at fault really and hes clearly regretful and is trying to comfort and help this man but nothing he says can change his mind and

dude just replace mark with calamitas and the guy with a illmeran

do u see the vision

i swear this is not just me ranting abt invincible bc i like it this is actually perfect for cal

[mighty zenith]

spoilers 💔

[pliant ruin]

FUCK

[mighty zenith]

killing you with the rock

[pliant ruin]

IM SORRY 😭

I GOT TUNNEL VISIONNED

[mighty zenith]

(jk its fine lol

ill most likely forget when i get around to it

[pliant ruin]

i think everyone who says that cal is evil or whatever and should be killed should watch invincible s3 ep6 to understand the actual nuance of the situation cuz its the same fucking thing

[dusk laurel]

[limpid saddle]

Will Draedon have Apollo or Artemis deliver a cool gun to you or something as thanks

[pliant ruin]

he will give you weed

[dusk laurel]

Exo zaza

[pliant ruin]

i doubt therell be a reward other than lore but idk

[late veldt]

Consequences of trying to have a moral debate after you've been stabbed 2342 tines

[dusk laurel]

Will we get Draedon commentary on Dwayne Xeroc and Noxious Gas in the future too

[thick slate]

hell yes

draedon definitely programmed a high unit into himself

how else would he design the exo's

[dusk laurel]

Not really

It's like their respawn point rather than a home

[limpid saddle]

Have you ever heard the saying "Home is where the heart is"?

Now

[dusk laurel]

No

[limpid saddle]

Insert 'soul' into that

& my analogy works perfectly

I will not be taking any more questions

[dusk laurel]

I haven't ever heard of the saying before so now your argument is false

[late veldt]

so if I taped the rock to a stick I would end up with one hell of a hammer

[split mortar]

Yes

[pliant ruin]

i think assuming what leon said is right it shouldn't work like that? since it's more of a temporal thing based on the aerie itself rather than the materials its made of just being hard as fuck

[late veldt]

hard things are hard both ways

[split mortar]

Pluh

[pliant ruin]

.

I think my interpretation is still completely valid unless cei manifests out of the depths to say it isnt which would be sad

As far as i'm concerned nothing here says it's the things in the aerie that are strong

[manic coral]

it'd be funny if i did but i wont eleaborate

[split mortar]

Pluh

[pliant ruin]

if anything it seems like the aerie itself, as an area, has some sort of temporal bullshit going on that makes it so change can't happen and thus the region is near impervious to damage

[late veldt]

I'm assuming that the rocks don't lose the property if they were to leave the Aerie but

[split mortar]

Wouldnt be surprised its a bit of both

[cloud ibex]

personally i think it's cooler if the actual rocks aren't that durable

[late veldt]

Counterpoint I don't think Yharim is just straight up homeless up there

[cloud ibex]

like it's just normal rocks

[pliant ruin]

i hope it's the case anyways because i like leon's explanation for it while i greatly dislike the notion of it just kinda being hard

[pliant ruin]

yeah no absolutely

i agree w this

[cloud ibex]

but their durability comes from time bullshit refusing to let them be altered in any way unless you're so strong you can overpower whoever or whatever enchanted the aerie

[pliant ruin]

well maybe.. greatly

is an exaggeration

but id o generally not like it as an idea unless i'm convinced otherwise etc bla bla bla

[split mortar]

Aerie is whats left of the world soul after it shattered

[late veldt]

oh is it?

[barren sonnet]

World soul is what’s left of the aerie after it shattered

[split mortar]

Thag be my theory

[late veldt]

idk I'm just woke up my brain is as impressionable as the top of a baby's head

oh okay

[cloud ibex]

worst part is i can think of a way to bullshit this into being proof of the Noxus = The Child from Grime crack theory

actual brain mold

[dusk laurel]

Thag

[split mortar]

Fuck you

[dusk laurel]

[cloud ibex]

(please don't let this devolve into bullying melon for minor spelling errors again

[pliant ruin]

i am noxus. tthis has been establishd

[sleek halo]

True…

[dusk laurel]

Noxious cheese

[late veldt]

Thagma nuts

[dusk laurel]

That's a Seeker of Knowledge thing

[sleek halo]

simple reason

[cloud ibex]

imagine if after you beat xeroc you can ask them for a bigger rock you make an actual hammer out of

[sleek halo]

Yharim would just have

really good

self control

[split mortar]

Thats a lamer reason then aerie being wacko

[late veldt]

so if I were to put The Rock in a sling...

[magic epoch]

mjolnir or smth idk

[late veldt]

would Draedon be able to find the aerie if we tossed him the rock?

[sleek halo]

true..

[dusk laurel]

This is eerie

[green bay]

Idl draedon seems kinda autistic i think he would just eat it

I would eat it too

[split mortar]

Nothing draedon has can scratch the rock

[cloud ibex]

hold up

hold the fuck up

the aerie (seemingly) is unbreakable because of time bullshittery

what if the reason Draedon can't find it is also because of time bullshittery

what if the whole Dragon's Aerie is actually located in the past, an entire island plucked out of time, unmoving to all but the strongest beings in all of Terraria

[split mortar]

The aerie is literally in the past

[cloud ibex]

Draedon can't find it because he can't travel through time

my brain is too fuckin huge

[deft vessel]

This one is a bit farfetched

[cloud ibex]

man obviously there's a lot of dark souls inspiration in the lore but if this is true it really feels like something you'd actually read in a Souls game

[deft vessel]

Or just pocket dimension

[split mortar]

Pocket space vs pocket time

[cloud ibex]

fromsoft likes to do a lot of esoteric bullshit in their stories, and "sky island that doesn't exist now because it only exists in the past, and is impossible to manipulate in any way to everyone except the strongest person in the world because it's stuck in time" feels right at home

[cloud ibex]

i gotta be honest it just being in a pocket dimension feels a lot less interesting than it being frozen in the past

[indigo glade]

Clearly this makes the Auric Dragons Universal, since they can manipulate time.

[cloud ibex]

💥

[late veldt]

how would the Yharock see into the future then

[cloud ibex]

it just Does

[split mortar]

Auric shinanigans

[dusk laurel]

I don't think it's from auric

It just is

[split mortar]

By auric i mean dragon fuckery

Same stuff that lets it not be in the present

[deft vessel]

Tbh I think it just conceals itself from those it does not wish to enter. (Maybe after Fovos)

[late veldt]

Maybe it's just stuck outside time itself

rather than in the past

[cloud ibex]

could also work

[gritty kraken]

What if yharm is long dead or doesn’t actually exist

[deft vessel]

Hmm yees

[late veldt]

Removed from the flow of time to preserve a dying past

[deft vessel]

That would technically also be a pocket dimension or something like that

[pliant ruin]

not really

specially after hte conversation that was had here like a few mins ago

it also fits thematically

to the narrative's themes

[deft vessel]

Ehh… maybe

I still feel like its supose to be more symbolic than concreate

[pliant ruin]

cei supports the idea that the reason the aerie is so durable is time bullshittery so

what does that mean

what would it being "symbolic" ential

i feel like i'm being kinda rude

i'm gonna tone it down a bit sorry

tho id like to know what u mean by symbolic/concrete still

bc it being literally stuck in time is incredibly symbolic of the narratives themes about change and refusing to let go

[cloud ibex]

Dark Soles

[pliant ruin]

Dark Soles:

[cloud ibex]

i've actually played ds3 now i'm allowed to go "this is just like dark souls"

[real silo]

Mfing dio over here trapping an island in stopped time

Would it be a theoretical dragon of time that did this or did it just happen

[cloud ibex]

a dragon of time doing it could work but then you'd have to ask why the aerie didn't get unstuck when said dragon (presumably) died

[deft vessel]

That was what I was mainly thinking about

[indigo glade]

What.

[indigo glade]

They're stuck in the past, too.

Obviously.

[real silo]

Trapped in the past like

like the tuyu song

[fallen kiln]

Why tf some people thinks that Xeroc is Nameless Deity?

[cloud ibex]

because ND conceptually started as Xeroc from an older iteration of the lore and, even after having their name changed, fragments of old Xeroc still exists within their roots

[indigo glade]

And also clickbait.

[cloud ibex]

plus i think some of the WotG people still basically call them Xeroc and ND interchangeably because of the aforementioned reason

[cloud ibex]

that's also a part of it

[gritty kraken]

Noxus with the new Wotg update:

[cloud ibex]

essentially, legally speaking xeroc and ND are at this point very different but in spirit they have the same dna

[indigo glade]

One of the biggest modded Terraria YouTubers, who also does a lot of Calamity spoiler showcases, called Nameless Deity "Xeroc", so everyone else did it too. It was like that for several months, until it was changed.

[indigo glade]

And yes, this is sadly happening again with ||Avatar of Emptiness||.

[gritty kraken]

yeah

[patent rover]

> Nameless Deity
> Look inside
> Name

[fallen kiln]

Do people are associating ||Avatar of Emptiness|| with lore characters?

[indigo glade]

Associating it with Noxus, yes.

[cloud ibex]

it used to be noxus until, like, five days ago so yes

[indigo glade]

Because ||Avatar of Emptiness|| replaced WotG's Noxus entirely.

[gritty kraken]

They done made mentioning ||Avatar of emptiness|| feel like talking about the noseless guy in Harry Potter

[fallen kiln]

LOL

[real silo]

Those who nose

[pliant ruin]

🐾 🦉 👃

[real silo]

hi vheese

[pliant ruin]

hai

[split mortar]

Give us your wisdom oh great one

[dusk laurel]

Haii

[pliant ruin]

fish dont live on the sun

[cosmic zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-notebook-gif-20708336

[split mortar]

Thanks for your wisdome oh great one

[cosmic zenith]

But what about sunfish?

[pliant ruin]

ur welcome

[pliant ruin]

traitors.

[cosmic zenith]

Damn

[pliant ruin]

talking about sunfish isnt it funny that cal has a abyssal sunfish

like out of all things to put down there u put a sunfish whats up with that

i hope it reamins a sunfish when it gets its inevitable redesign bc it being a sunfish si funny

[dusk laurel]

Amazing

[real silo]

Is a sunfish a fish that lives in the sun or a fish made of sun

[cosmic zenith]

Fish don't live in the sun, silly

Of course it's made of sun

Cheese would know, they're the moon

[gritty kraken]

I thought they produce suns

[light linden]

hey stip you answered me while I was asleep, can I ask that question now?

[cosmic zenith]

Yes

[spare pier]

Yeah this is like

Literally Farum Azula

[cloud ibex]

wow!

[cosmic zenith]

Considering Cosmological Manic Phenomenon, it would be akin to a calm lake

[cloud ibex]

my excuse is i haven't played elden ring but i had a suspicion it would be very close to something from a souls game

[spare pier]

A giant island that is inhabited by Dragons that was removed from the main land and just exists in its own pocket in time

Like

Damn

[sleek halo]

[cloud ibex]

i was about to make a joke about a secret zeratros superboss by using time bullshittery in the aerie to actually fully go back in time to when he was still alive but then i realized that the aerie being frozen in time could be a cool excuse to have zeratros' fresh corpse laying in the aerie as a backdrop for yharim's arena

[spare pier]

Welcome back Placidusax

[cloud ibex]

man i was a little sad we wouldn't get Yharim literally punching us through a wall at the start of the fight but some of the things aerie time bullshittery could open up for makes up for it

[spare pier]

The cool thing is that I have the power of headcanon

I still think the Aerie ending in shambles by the end of Yharim's fight would be the way to go if we weren't held back by gameplay limitations

And when I'm not limited

Well

[real silo]

How do you know

Have you swam in the sun?

That's right I thought not

[light linden]

have you designed any of them without wings?

[patent rover]

what if we go back in time to the aerie and just so happen to stumble upon zeratros' chamber as he is about to die

[indigo glade]

We need to go BACK IN TIME to the FIRST ASCENSION to get DRAGONS. OFF. THE MENU.

[robust osprey]

LMAOO

[limpid saddle]

this was inevitable

[pliant ruin]

[indigo glade]

Why so shaky?

[amber cedar]

why so serios

[limpid saddle]

do you think Yharim's going to say that to the Terrarian at the end of his 3 hour-long monolouge

[pliant ruin]

old duke will say taht in his old duke dialogue

he wants to make sure hsi fellow dragon brethen dont get killed

[indigo glade]

I don't think Old Duke cares...

[patent rover]

nonono see we get there to where xeroc supposedly ascended but there's nobody there

[robust osprey]

yharon saying that to lil dragonfolly

[limpid saddle]

dementia is a strange thing

[pliant ruin]

well of course you dont because you havent seen his dialogue where he talks abt how he does

[robust osprey]

old man 5 hours monologue

[cosmic zenith]

Not yet, but we'll get there, probably

It's a matter of what fits the Dragon

For example, I was planning on making the Flame Dragon an actual wyvern (like Smaug in the movies)

[cosmic zenith]

I have

It was trippy

[fading sun]

is this channel still cool

[cloud ibex]

up to viewer interpretation

[pliant ruin]

ridley..........

[amber cedar]

ridley my beloved

[pliant ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/my-genuine-reaction-metroid-super-metroid-ridley-samus-gif-15403134031046668683

[amber cedar]

creatures with spiny tails with swords on the end my beloved

(xenomorphs

[tepid timber]

And then WE become the xeroc we made along the way

[dusk laurel]

👎

[patent rover]

somebody gets it

[clear girder]

why did yharim even kill so many innocent ppl? I dont think they were gods

[indigo glade]

Death by association.

Simple as that.

[split mortar]

They worshipped gods or he thought they dis

[clear girder]

Is Yharon evil or is he just being ordered by yharim?

[limpid saddle]

They're on equal terms but Yharon is the one that started the Crusades by telling Yharim his tale of woe as they both broiled in lava

[split mortar]

Yharon if anything would be the one able to order yharim around

Thiugh theyre equals in this being best buds

[limpid saddle]

& I wouldn't say Yharon isn't so much evil as the last member of a species that once lived in peace until suddenly that was lost, spending the rest of his days escaping pursuit of those they once stood hand-in-hand with as he watched his kindred slaughtered by the thousands

I feel like his want to flip the script & genocide the Gods is fairly justified

But you know, don't meet absolutes with absolutes

[split mortar]

Eh
He still refuses to accept there can be good gods after a century

[limpid saddle]

& all that

[split mortar]

I get whyd he would kill some but damn he goes overboard

[limpid saddle]

I mean if fucking, cats or something found out they could achieve ascension by eating human hearts, & all of a sudden the entire human race is devastated by these new evolved cats, while you watch your closest friends die in agony I feel like that creates a level of spite that results in the 'Kill every last one' attitude

[pliant ruin]

I'd say Yharon is very much evil but its a form of evil that is somewhat tragic in that you can completely understand how he got here, he's a being that is far beyond redemption but maybe if things went differently he could've been a good guy

[cloud ibex]

i'd go as far as to say back in the day he probably was a good guy

centuries of watching his species get picked off and the purpose of his existence with it broke him

[clear girder]

id say he is influenced

[abstract gyro]

by whom though

Because if anything, it's Yharon who sent Yharim down the path he has taken

[pliant ruin]

Yeah nobody is really influencing Yharon

[clear girder]

well yeah that is true

[pliant ruin]

Yharon definitely influenced Yharim but i disagree with the notion he manipulated him, that wording seems to imply Yharon intentionally was using Yharim as a tool or whatever when in reality i think it's more so that Yharon spat some bars and Yharim genuinely believed them and then they both decided to kill people together

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah
Yharon has done evil, but isn't inherently evil
He's kinda like Calamitas in that regard

Except Calamitas gives up her evil ways and starts to heal

[pliant ruin]

I mean i wouldn't say anybody in the cal cast is inherently evil

They all reached this point in one way or another

[cosmic zenith]

While Yharon is still evil fucked up creature

[pliant ruin]

Well ok there's like

the distortion might be kinda fucked but i personally would believe them to be destructive rather than evil but who tf knows

[abstract gyro]

You could say nobody ever is inherently evil

[pliant ruin]

Yeah atleast in real life id say so

But in fantasy you can always have some fucked up evil creatures from hell that are born evil and exist to commit evil or whjtaegver

the only members of the cal cast id say might fit this definition r like

maybee noxus or some other distortion guys

[indigo glade]

Mr. Lord of Moons exists.

[pliant ruin]

but it's just speculation

[pliant ruin]

Good point but i'm not sure if ML is evil or destructive

[abstract gyro]

Thought of bringing him up actually

[pliant ruin]

We don't really know wtf ML's goal was

[light linden]

@cosmic zenith can I ask a question?

[clear girder]

he really just attacked earth without us knowing his goals

[abstract gyro]

We don't even know if ML is even sentient/sapient (idr the difference)

[cosmic zenith]

Sure!

[pliant ruin]

yeah

sentient is basically just, capable of thought

sapient is smart 🧠 intelligent civilized etc

lke humans

[clear girder]

he does seem pretty smart

[abstract gyro]

so like apes are sentient but not sapient? I see

[cosmic zenith]

More accurately, sentient is tied to consciousness

[light linden]

do auric souls have a-

actually how do I wanna word this

[cosmic zenith]

Which is more of a senses thing than a thought thing

[pliant ruin]

basically any animal is sentient unless they're like

[indigo glade]

A.

[pliant ruin]

sea sponges

or any of the other guys that dont really have brains

[cosmic zenith]

Actually, sea sponges are sentient

[light linden]

ok so

[cosmic zenith]

Even flatworms are technically sentient

Because they're aware of their surroundings

[indigo glade]

Jellyfish?

[pliant ruin]

honestly i suppose it depends on what level of cognition you define as sentient

[light linden]

say a dragon were to be killed but the auric soul wasn't absorbed, what would happen to the soul?

[clear girder]

yes

i think

[pliant ruin]

one could consider sea sponges sentient

[abstract gyro]

I love how casually you're correcting us on that topic lmao

[cosmic zenith]

Cognition isn't what defines sentience!!!

It's consciousness

[light linden]

would it just sit there or would it dissipate after a while?

[abstract gyro]

It'd go back to Aerie

I believe

[pliant ruin]

in a way you could argue single celled organisms can b sentient

because they react to responses to the enviroment around them

[cosmic zenith]

It would linger or return to the Aerie

[light linden]

hmm

[pliant ruin]

and that could arguably be defined as consciousness

[cosmic zenith]

If Auric souls dissipated, that'd be fucked up

[light linden]

wonder how many are just sitting there now

cause the moon lord killed some dragons before he was banished right?

[clear girder]

all of the dragons went extinct exept Yharon

i think

[abstract gyro]

None if you don't count Yharon

[cosmic zenith]

They don't really direct complex actions based on external stimuli, afaik

Their mechanisms of such nature are generally biochemical

[pliant ruin]

I wonder if single celled organisms feel like they exist

[abstract gyro]

It's probably safe to assume those dragons got reborn and then got killed by humans (and absorbed)

[pastel path]

they don’t have neurons, they can’t think

they just react to stimuli

[clear girder]

they probably wont feel anything

they dont have high enough thought for that

[cosmic zenith]

Sure, biochemistry and cell signaling is a whole rabbit hole you could call very complex, but integrating cellular mechanisms is even more complex

Believe me, I would know a bit about how complex physiology is.... I'm studying metabolism right now and guh

[pliant ruin]

see heres the thing

[pliant ruin]

what defines thought

[pastel path]

think

[pliant ruin]

i feel like saying they inherently cant think is dismissing of the fact we don't actually know what existence as a single celled organism is like and its something well kinda just probably have to linger on the realm of speculation forever

its interesting to think abt

[pastel path]

it’s not

[pliant ruin]

i think ti is to be honest idk about u

[pliant ruin]

r you in bio?

[clear girder]

Thought is generally defined as the mental process of manipulating information, forming ideas, making decisions, solving problems, and reflecting on experiences. It's often associated with consciousness, self-awareness, and the ability to reason. In humans and animals, thought involves the brain processing sensory input, memory, emotions, and external stimuli, enabling us to interpret and respond to the world around us.

[pliant ruin]

you copy pasted that from google didn't you

[clear girder]

yes

[pliant ruin]

you get a gold star for trying

this one

[clear girder]

i don't have the brains to explain it myself

[pliant ruin]

nobody does honestly atleast not fully
because even scientists aren't fully sure what it is and that's why there's philosophical and biological debates around it to this day

[late veldt]

How old is Permafrost again?

[pliant ruin]

grandpa

[clear girder]

atleast over a 100 years i think

because he is older than Yharim

i think

[limpid saddle]

Well I mean I think we can say Hitler was pretty objectively evil

[pliant ruin]

dude

[split mortar]

iirc a recent number from statements was like

500

[cosmic zenith]

Medicine

[pliant ruin]

ah ic ic

i'm studying bio atm (tho ive been kinda slow with getting tsuff done )

so many assignments i gotta do augh

[limpid saddle]

You guys think the ice magic helped Permafrost reach his unnaturally long lifespan?

[split mortar]

Yeah i think a statement said thats the magic he used

[clear girder]

yes.

[dusk laurel]

Hasn't this basically been confirmed

[split mortar]

Pretty sure

[limpid saddle]

as far as im aware it wasnt

We need like a list of dev statements at this point

A 117 commandments of unimplemented calamity lore

[dusk laurel]

#lore-discussion message

[clear girder]

did Yharon leave Yharims army at some point?

[dusk laurel]

Nope

[split mortar]

No

[limpid saddle]

No

Loyal to the end

He left Yharim to go fight us

But he didnt abandon him or anything

[clear girder]

[dusk laurel]

(ggg did you look at the link)

[limpid saddle]

b'yeah

[clear girder]

why did calamitas incinerate the sea

[limpid saddle]

cause Yharim told her to

So he could kill the Gods residing there

Otilinou, Goddess Of Electricity or something, & then some fish god with a cannon hand

[clear girder]

ok

did Yharim regret the bad things he did

[magic epoch]

no

[clear girder]

i cant remember

[magic epoch]

it's a theory but

[limpid saddle]

He didnt regret the genocide

[magic epoch]

it's about as much as a theory as sans is ness

as in its canon, of course!

[limpid saddle]

But he felt a bit bad about his crash-out toward Permafrost & Calamitas in certain interpretations

though some say he was faking it & only felt bad because he lost strong allies

[split mortar]

Die

[clear girder]

did the others regret it like calamitas

[split mortar]

Perma left cause yharim was bad so he presumably did

Draedon doesnt understand morality so no

[limpid saddle]

Calamitas definetly did, Permafrost left Yharim's service because of his Tyranny, Yharon sees it as as justified as Yharim does, & the Devourer Of Gods uh

continues to devour

until we beat him to death anyway

The Lunatic Cultist also probably sees it as justified given he oversaw the torture nightmare dungeon that made Polterghast

& as melon said, Draedon likely only regrets losing further opportunities after being forced out of Yharim's service after making the Plauge Nanovirus

[clear girder]

why did he make it anyway

why just not use normal queen bees

[limpid saddle]

Because he wanted specifically to have complete control over an organic being while enhacing it

That is the question is he asked; 'How do I do that', & then he did it

[clear girder]

so dradeon controls the plague

[limpid saddle]

No, the Plauge is a seperate all-consuming consciousness, presumably to escaping before being perfectly curated

(Because Yharim busted it out)

Draedon does have a kill-switch in-case it goes too far though

But it's been alluded by Cei & others that the Plaugebringer Goliath may have cut off the kill-switch... so it may continue to run rampant...

[clear girder]

i see..

[hoary berry]

goose

[clear girder]

yes

[limpid saddle]

why are you saying your name like a pokemon

[hoary berry]

goose ^

[limpid saddle]

oh great heavens they did it again

[hoary berry]

they

[clear girder]

what was the place Yharim committed mass genocide?

[light linden]

yes

[limpid saddle]

Uhh... everywhere?

everything?

all at once?

[light linden]

presumably everywhere

[clear girder]

i see

[light linden]

possibly not on the hellhole continent

we don't know if anyone has lived there

[limpid saddle]

Anything else?

[manic coral]

Most places

[limpid saddle]

Cei

Do Yharim & Yharon keep a scrapbook of all the places they pillaged

[manic coral]

not anymore

😔

[limpid saddle]

[glacial rampart]

cei where does sofia the first fit into calamity lore

did the kingdom of enchancia oppose yharim

[swift badger]

Free Yharim

[cloud ibex]

his ass ain't locked up

[robust osprey]

what is enchancia

never heard of it before

[limpid saddle]

it's the setting of sophia the first, a disney tv show for toddlers from like 2010 i wanna say?

[robust osprey]

oh

how does this relate to cal

or just a joke I didnt get

[glacial rampart]

its not just for toddlers.

ive never actually seen sofia the first but I want to get into it because i think inserting it into every piece of media i can would be funny

[limpid saddle]

I have.

That shit was integrated into my childhood with 2 younger sisters in the early 2010's

Alongside Doc Mcstuffins

As far as I recall, it was kinda just ok

It didn't really push the envelope or anything but it didn't really need to it was fairly light-hearted

[limpid saddle]

I think it's a bit around the absurdism of connecting these two eintierly unrelated & inappropriate things

[robust osprey]

oh

[limpid saddle]

yeah this isn't anything where there's some comedic lore behind it like woody toy story in deltarune chapter 3

[robust osprey]

not the friend inside me

not the brainrot

[limpid saddle]

toy story is peak cinema & i unironically think if he wanted to Toby Fox could bring Pixar to the table for a woody guest appearence

[indigo glade]

Deltarune tomorrow.

[robust osprey]

toby fox would almost definetly make references to big series/movies

toy story being there

[robust osprey]

[limpid saddle]

Deltarune yesterday.

it got shadow-dropped & nobody noticed

[dusk laurel]

Delta

[robust osprey]

shocking

[dusk laurel]

like

like

like

a river delta

[limpid saddle]

Pokemon ORAS Delta Episode

Rayquaza will appear in Deltarune Chapter 3.

[robust osprey]

what if noelle is a pokemon fan

and captured missingno in gen 1

[indigo glade]

Noelle? Encountering bugs? Ridiculous!

[summer agate]

If you rearenge the letters in noelle you get

No eell

no eel?

For eel?

on cod?

no carp?

[hybrid barn]

What if this means...Devourer of Cods...

[summer agate]

Secret boss confirmed?

Lmao

[magic epoch]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/The_Devourer_of_Cods

[summer agate]

Oh, lol

But that still leaves the idea

Like a mod that replaces DOG with a worm made entirely of slightly off colored Minecraft cod

[magic epoch]

🟣

[dusk laurel]

A png of a cod with a purple filter

[hybrid barn]

...and it was only now that I remembered images can't be sent here

[vast hornet]

If draedon is an ai, then does that mean he’d be affected by the astral infection should he go there himself? It’d certainly explain the need for recon mechs like astrum aureus

[indigo glade]

This is already addressed with the chat with Draedon regarding the Astral Infection.

[summer agate]

If Draedon is an AI, do you think he could generate the ultimate cookies recipe in the universe?

[late veldt]

If he dedicated his resources to that, almost certainly

[amber cedar]

z

[tall delta]

true

[sinful adder]

Yes, he says so

He's trying to find a way to solve that

[earnest wraith]

one of draedons main goals is to purge the astral infection in its entirety becuase of that type of thing

[limber locust]

Draedon cookie recipe must become a thing.

[frigid sage]

What if Draedon modified his code to make him want to bake cookies

Would it just be cookie clicker?

[limber locust]

I feel like I knew that was coming at some point eventually.

[zinc river]

What is the order from strongest to weakest for these 3

Signus, Storm Weaver and Ceaseless Void

Lore wise

[magic epoch]

i think signus, void, weaver

[limpid saddle]

I don't think Draedon could or would do that

[zinc river]

Signus has the ability to kill anything right

[mighty zenith]

no?

[limpid saddle]

I'm not exactly sure how you edit the data of a conscious mind

[mighty zenith]

why would it

[zinc river]

I read it somewhere

[limpid saddle]

Uh, no he just does deals & stabs people

Are you sure you werent on the Total Calamity wiki?

Or old lore?

[zinc river]

It was a while ago

Like

Years

[limpid saddle]

Alright so 50/50

[mighty zenith]

probably one of those then

for a while total calamity was like
the main place people went to for lore (despite it literally being made-up bullshit for a roleplay)

[zinc river]

So even then

[limpid saddle]

Yeah those guys are on some crack shit

[zinc river]

Is it Signus, cease and then weaver

Regardless

[mighty zenith]

i think so yeah

[limpid saddle]

supreme calamitas is a clone in that continuity

[zinc river]

Do u think ceaseless scales higher than Signus now

Due to new wrath update

[mighty zenith]

slime god looks like patient zero for some reason

[limpid saddle]

Given Signus is dead, probably

[limpid saddle]

[zinc river]

Slime god isn’t worthy

To be called a god

bro just ran

to evade a fade

[limpid saddle]

My brother in christ

A God is anyone who has absorbed an Auric Soul through the Ascendance Ritual

He did that, he is a God

[zinc river]

Most come out more powerful than him

What’s the deal

Or is it simply bc his biology as a slime

Hinders him

[limpid saddle]

& one might be prone to skedaddling when there's a feral red-haired man riding a dragon across the contineant specifically to kill you

For 100 years

[mighty zenith]

you say this, and yet the few gods that survived the crusade had to flee

[limpid saddle]

& the strength of the Auric Dragons, & Gods, vary like ALOT

[mighty zenith]

were they a coward
or were they smart

[limpid saddle]

Not to mention

[zinc river]

Leaning more towards coward

[limpid saddle]

Those who don't acheive a 'Perfect Ascension', (what happened to Xeroc & Silva), always end up weaker than the Auric Soul they absorbed, except for Shakidou

Because somebody just HAD to be different

[eager bluff]

its not really cowardly to realize "oh hey this guy is gonna fuck me up and i can literally not touch him so i think ill leave now"

that isnt a cowardly move its specifically logical

[zinc river]

So slime god didn’t achieve a perfect ascension

[eager bluff]

they generally end up slightly stronger with the ability to get stronger through training

[limpid saddle]

Basically none of the Gods did

[zinc river]

Too bad he’s a slime

[light linden]

no

[zinc river]

What’s the best way to even get stronger for a slime

[limpid saddle]

Being a slime doesn't mean he cant get stronger

[zinc river]

Just consume

[gritty kraken]

the theory

[light linden]

that's not a rule for imperfect ascensions

[zinc river]

Didn’t say that

But the usual way they get stronger

Consuming

would cause him to go out of hiding

Wouldn’t it

[eager bluff]

almost every ascension ends up with the god in question being slightly stronger at base than the soul they absorbed due to yknow fusing souls

[eager bluff]

no

[limpid saddle]

ok fair

[eager bluff]

adding another soul to the mix doesnt really make something weaker just a bit more unstable

[limpid saddle]

I believe I meant their domains

Given they are typically a downgrade

[eager bluff]

not really

[limpid saddle]

You know
Fire > Ash
Gluttony > Slime
& so on

I mean I guess Ash could clog someone's windpipe better than fire

[eager bluff]

the domain is, outside of perfect ascensions, something related but not identical, and influenced by the gods thoughts feelings and desires prior to the ascension

[limpid saddle]

What was Slime God feeling really clammy when he did the ritual?

[eager bluff]

fuck if i know

[mighty zenith]

if the theory that the onyx kinsmen involved slimes in their beliefs is true then it'd make more sense

[long sand]

Hi

[limpid saddle]

can you clog someone's windpipe better than fire

[long sand]

Uhh gimme some chlorine powder and probably

[limpid saddle]

I guess that proves Ash is a stronger domain than Fire

[scenic olive]

Brimstone

[split mortar]

Fire donain fvs ash domaun

[scenic olive]

Isnt

Ash is part of the Fire domain

[split mortar]

Provi has ash domain
Fire dragon had fire domain

[scenic olive]

Wait

What about slime god

[split mortar]

Slime domain
Dragon had gluttony

[scenic olive]

Slime domain

[split mortar]

Yea?

[scenic olive]

How is slime

Become a domain

[split mortar]

Because domains change to a similiar domain when a god ascends

Slimes are very gluttonous so thats why gluttony domain became slime domain

[scenic olive]

Slimy creatures

[dusk laurel]

Weaver, CV, Signus

[pliant ruin]

isnt that exactly what they said

[dusk laurel]

I don't know I woke up like 10 minutes ago

[thick slate]

dumbasso

[mighty zenith]

sleeps u

[dusk laurel]

[dusk laurel]

Okay so, when you have Yharim on your tail basically 24/7, and you're also towards the weaker end of gods and don't have much room for growth due to your job of keeping the balance
Is it really cowardly to flee from Yharim

This is a pre-WoF to post-Yharon difference

[mortal imp]

is yharon more like a pet or a brother to yharim

[cloud ibex]

closer to brother

they're basically best friends

yharon is far older and probably smarter than yharim so him being his pet would be kinda odd

[mortal imp]

i thought yharons egg was given to yharim

[cloud ibex]

it was

[mortal imp]

whats the new lore?

[cloud ibex]

Yharon is the Dragon of Rebirth - that is, an Auric Dragon with the power to let himself and other Auric Dragons be endlessly reborn after death so long as their souls remain

the Auric Dragons were hunted down over the course of centuries because absorbing an Auric soul in a special ritual allows your soul and theirs to fuse together, turning you into a god

Yharon is the last Auric Dragon alive - Yharim was supposed to absorb his soul and be crowned the eternal god-king, but he refused, so he and the egg were both tossed into lava

[mortal imp]

so when us the player eliminate yharon wouldnt he just be reborn?

[cloud ibex]

yea

it takes about a decade, but still

he'll get better

[stoic gulch]

Is noxus like a “god” of something or just like pretty strong guy from distortion

[cloud ibex]

we have No Fucking Clue™️

[stoic gulch]

Coolsies

[cloud ibex]

all we know is that it's probably DoG's master and it has bad vibes

[mortal imp]

noxus is the god of entropy i think

or is that wotg headcanon

[stoic gulch]

Not even that anymore

Noxus is kinda not existant in wrath of the gods anymore

[mortal imp]

ik ik

avatar of emptiness

not much to go off noxus right? is there even references of it in the game

do you think yharim is aware of the existence of noxus though?

[indigo glade]

No.

[mortal imp]

read g

[indigo glade]

He has already alluded to it twice in the chat about Ceaseless Void and DoG.

[mortal imp]

ill check it out

The Devourer's alien capabilities and domineering tactics hint that his allegiance lay elsewhere.
Is he but one soldier, a mere pawn of a malevolence far beyond…?

servants of the servant

[hardy oracle]

he kinda knows that DoG and its servants have a boss but that's pretty much it

[cloud ibex]

Also note that the sentinels being “servants” is mostly an old lore thing

They’re mostly separate from DoG now beyond being from the distortion

In fact Signus is apparently above him in the hierarchy of the distortion… whatever that might entail

[limpid saddle]

Well Yharim describes to us his 'I stared into the abyss & it stared back' moment in the Ceaseless Void lore item

[hardy oracle]

i know, i just called them that because of the name of their ost and that i forgot for a second that the word "sentinels" exist

[cloud ibex]

No yeah that’s fair

[limpid saddle]

went on a full Darkest Dungeon Will Check, got 'Hopeless' & skedaddled the fuck out of there

[cloud ibex]

“Sentinels” rolls a lot better off the tongue than “those three bosses from the distortion that aren’t under DoG’s servitude”

[limpid saddle]

Storm Weaver is basically DoG's dog though

[pliant ruin]

Also

[limpid saddle]

So we have him, & no-one else

[pliant ruin]

None of the distortion guys except ceaseless seem to be working for noxus anyways

storm weaver is entirely dettached from the distortion as a whole

guy broke free from it or whatever

and signus is

well

signus

him and noxus operate on a similar scale

[limpid saddle]

he's a sigma male

[pliant ruin]

they're indenpendent factions within the distortion basically

[cloud ibex]

Taking out Noxus will involve a side quest where SW helps you destroy its former master…….

Do you see the vision

[limpid saddle]

I don't think a vaugely malevolant portal can work for someone cheese

[pliant ruin]

i dont like the idea of SW being very intelligent or sapient

[pliant ruin]

I mean it's probably made by noxus

close enough

i think there's a nice uniqueness about each one of the distortion guys

[hardy oracle]

ceaseless isn't working for DoG, not because it's independent, but because it's basically an object (a contained portal to be more specific)

[pliant ruin]

devourer is sapient and works for noxus, signus is sapient and is a being that is just kinda got its own plans, weaver is.... probably more animalistic? and entirely independent from the distortion, and ceaseles is essentially a extension of noxus, being a portal made by it and allat

[limpid saddle]

yes we have elaborated on this

[pliant ruin]

i said noxus

not dog

[pliant ruin]

atleast that's how i see it

[limpid saddle]

Not to mention Draedon very specifically tells us that DoG is physically incapable of making a gateway to the Distortion as stable as Ceaseless Void

[pliant ruin]

like they're all really distinct from eachother

which i think is cool

atleast in terms of their role in the narrative and personality etc

[limpid saddle]

I think the shared ost still works to as a more general theme of 'The Distortion'

Maybe when it finally gets added the area ost & noxus fight will have a Universal Collapse leitmotif

[pliant ruin]

I kinda hope the ost gets chagned tbh

[mighty zenith]

save us sidetracked

[pliant ruin]

like yeah you COULD excuse it as a distortion motif rather tahn a devourer motif but

[mighty zenith]

i like servants of the scourge but

[limpid saddle]

[dusk laurel]

Servants of the scourge make the sentinels seem more like minibosses

[pliant ruin]

They really don't fit the idea fo their characters too much?

yeah exactly

[mortal imp]

never fully understood how yharim is able to make dog, dreadon calamitas etc his subordinates. what makes yharim so powerful guys i got no clue 😭

[mighty zenith]

new themes for the three would definitely help them stand out

tbf dog basically just kinda

hopped on

himself

[pliant ruin]

DoG and Yharim teaming up was for mutual benefit, so was Draedon

Calamitas was manipulated into being his reusable nuclear bombv

[late veldt]

You know how you were able to kick all of their asses?

So could he

[mighty zenith]

and the things that make yharim so absurdly strong are his armor and the fact he's had over a century of training and fighting experience

[late veldt]

At his current power anyways

[mighty zenith]

he's also really damn charismatic

[limpid saddle]

Well DoG specifically went to him under Noxus's (presumably), orders, Draedon approached him of his own volition, when Calamitas joined, she was like 10 & was offered stability after trauma in form of Permafrost

[mighty zenith]

(shown by people irl literally falling for his bullshit)

[cloud ibex]

He has, though I hate to put it like this, dark rizz

[pliant ruin]

And as for how he's so strong
He's a guy with hundres of years of fighting experience with a suit of armor of probably the strongest metal in the world and he's magically attuned to a dragon

[mighty zenith]

[mortal imp]

oh right we are more in the footsteps of yharim rather than statis or braelor right

[cloud ibex]

Well maybe not necessarily dark

But he is incredibly convincing in what he says

[limpid saddle]

malevolent rizz

[pliant ruin]

We are in the footsteps of whoever you want to be in the footsteps of

[cloud ibex]

Something like that

[pliant ruin]

The terrarian is not a character but a blank slate

[limpid saddle]

omnious rizz?

[pliant ruin]

don't say that he'll show up

[dusk laurel]

Say that again,,

[cloud ibex]

He doesn’t believe what he’s doing is good necessarily but he is incredibly convinced what he’s doing is justified

[pliant ruin]

Yharim is, to put it shortly

delulu

[dusk laurel]

tbh i kinda hope moonburn makes the theme for the distortion

[cloud ibex]

Enough so to convince people to have their souls trapped in machines for the next century just so they can keep torching civilians in his name

[mortal imp]

dictator lore basically

[dusk laurel]

her style is different from the other cal osts and the distortion is supposed to be an unfamiliar place

[limpid saddle]

If that ever does happen I do still hope there's some kind of musical through-way with the Distortion & it's creatures

[mortal imp]

unc switches up and gets all sentimental when we kill his friends though

[limpid saddle]

I'd say Yharim is less morally dubious than most IRL dictators

At the bare minimum he didnt oppress his own people

[late veldt]

He burned every god worshipper alive

[mighty zenith]

he at least treats his subordinates better than russia

[limpid saddle]

Yharim seemed to be fairly open in all other aspects than Gods & Slavery

[cloud ibex]

Including war crimes

:D

[mortal imp]

beat yharim to save the world!! ❌

beat yharim to become the next tyrant ✅

[cloud ibex]

I suppose that works

[eager bluff]

oh no hes fine with slavery you just have to make it seem like a choice

[limpid saddle]

who would you tyrant over

[cloud ibex]

You’re not gonna do worse than him though

[limpid saddle]

all 20 villagers in your apartment complex

[mortal imp]

im going to vaporize BOTH oceans this time

[eager bluff]

cei did the math if you were to kill on the lower end of amount of shit as his crusade did in one world you would need to spend over 3,000 hours on only killing things

so no you aint getting worse than him

[cloud ibex]

Something like a million goblin invasions in single player to meet his kill count

[limpid saddle]

Infernum blood moon means you can probably get it done in like 5 days

[cloud ibex]

Yea but they’re already dead do they count

[limpid saddle]

I argue yes but i see why some may disagree

[dusk laurel]

I disagree

[pliant ruin]

the way i see it

they're already dead and not alive and are simply following "rules" set by the necromancy like a robot follows its code and thus killing then amounts to no more than burning a corpse or destroying a computer

[late veldt]

i mean it's just bringing corpses back

they don't really participate in any societies

[limpid saddle]

Speaking of

How do you guys think Cataclysm & Catastrophe's revivals went about?

[late veldt]

it's like exterminating pests but instead of rats it's your dead friends and family

[limpid saddle]

Think Calamitas pulled that off during the Brimstone Elemental smackdown or dug through the rubble to find their battered corpses later?

[cloud ibex]

This is completely headcanon territory but you saying that made me think of how she can just kinda make them appear anywhere

And then I thought of how they (I think? Been a while since I’ve seen the fight) turn to ashes upon “death”

[mighty zenith]

honestly i could see her being shit-scared when brimmy attacks her and calling for her brothers in fear and the sudden magic buff actually summoned them to help

[limpid saddle]

I like to imagine a little bit of their souls still cling to the revived vessels

[cloud ibex]

So maybe she asked for them both to be cremated, and then carries both of their ashes around in urns so they can be revived whenever she needs it

[cloud ibex]

That also works

[limpid saddle]

Not enough to be fully autonomus but enough for a haze of memory to still float around in their on-fire skulls

Makes the tragedy more palpable

[mighty zenith]

im pretty sure thats canon actually

the bestiary mentions it

[limpid saddle]

Yeah I assumed the 'eternal vow' thing was more metaphorical

[pliant ruin]

I love this

[dusk laurel]

Garbo cooking

[mighty zenith]

it'd explain how this complete noobie in magic managed to stand up to brimmy, her bros were there

[limpid saddle]

Garbo next Calamity lore writer⁉️

[mighty zenith]

always has been....

[cloud ibex]

Now I’m picturing them jumping at Brimmy from behind her like zoro and sanji protecting luffy in one piece

[pliant ruin]

I mean i think her magic knowledge didn't factor much if at all

[mighty zenith]

[pliant ruin]

given that she was essentially being controlled by the magic rather than the other way around

[mighty zenith]

fair actually

[magic epoch]

im thinking about it, yeah queen slime lore is awesome as fuck

she just fit in so perfectly

[cloud ibex]

That’s a new one

[magic epoch]

the take?

[cloud ibex]

Yeah

I don’t think I can remember anyone pointing out specifically Queen slime being cool lore wise

Not a bad thing, mind you, just a bit surprising

[magic epoch]

i just think the idea of the slime deity that made two slime paladins of the world evils, then trying to make a new paladin with the new world evil in hardmode, but because it's stronger, it fails

is cool

unless im misremembering something which I often do

[dusk laurel]

I feel like most people who don't like QS' lore are just bloodlusted and want to kill SG immediately

[limpid saddle]

Wait that's what happened?

[magic epoch]

i think so !!

queen slime being a hallowed paladin is so cool imo

[limpid saddle]

I assumed Queen Slime was in Calamity context a desperate last gambit by integrating itself into the new Paladin

[dusk laurel]

It got stuck

That's like

the whole reason it died

[limpid saddle]

I thought it was on purpose

Like SG realised "If this guy doesn't die NOW I'm gonna spend another 100 years persued by a psycho maniac & all of my followers are dead so I might as well"

Not to mention it seems like the Terrarian has a knack for making Gods in-hiding come out for desperate last stands

[spring helm]

SG already spent the past 100 years being pursued by a psycho maniac and his army so I don’t see why this would be any different

Kind of business as usual

[limpid saddle]

Y'know Gods are people

There is the psychological impact of a century on the run

Then the guy who's been trying to kill you vanishes, his army disbands, maybe, maybe you're finally free, & then some new fuckin dickhead shows up

& kicks your teeth in

One can very reasonably understand why Slime God may have gotten a little desperate

[dusk laurel]

That feels counterintuitive

making yourself bound to a paladin like that

when you've already tried it once and failed

[swift badger]

allat power just to get beat up by some random guy who knows how to craft weapons well

[cloud ibex]

In their defense the Terrarian is deceptively good at fighting

Iirc beating EoC or KS alone would be enough for you to be regarded as a legend among normal people

And you just keep going up after that

Also SG is one of the weakest gods

[dusk laurel]

QS is just a bigger and slower target for the Terrarian to attack after all, with SG only becoming mildly stronger because of it

[cloud ibex]

Pretty silly how Statis is stronger than SG though

[swift badger]

he could have gotten stronger if he absorbed more slimes

[cloud ibex]

They could’ve

But they chose not to

[limpid saddle]

I mean I think the idea is that the entire clan serve as his protector, like the Northern Water Tribe to the koi fish responsible for the moon in ATLA if you've seen it

[cloud ibex]

That makes sense

[limpid saddle]

It's powerful people protecting something weaker because it represents something more important than them

[dusk laurel]

Go on

This is a pretty neat idea

[limpid saddle]

I feel like i've elaborated on it

They followed him because of her dedication to balance right?

[dusk laurel]

his*

sg is basically a femboy afawk

[limpid saddle]

SG is genderfluid

Cei said so

[swift badger]

its a slime

[limpid saddle]

it's both canon & really funny

[indigo glade]

It.

[limpid saddle]

because they're literally a fluid

[cloud ibex]

They’re a person

[limpid saddle]

get it?

[dusk laurel]

No

[swift badger]

i thought the slime god was a slime

[dusk laurel]

SG became a slime

[tall delta]

goozah

[indigo glade]

No, Gods are people.

[dusk laurel]

but it's still a person

[limpid saddle]

Slime God was a guy that ate the Auric Dragon Of Gluttony's Soul

& then became Slime God

[swift badger]

makes sense

[limpid saddle]

slime are ooze

[mighty zenith]

its a slime only in powers basically

[limpid saddle]

ooze is a fluid

Just a congealed fluid

Anyway back to more important things

[swift badger]

how hot is the underworld

[limpid saddle]

On this, the Onyx Kinsmen specifically followed them because of the fact that they remained true to their virtues, & given they literally injested parts of the evil biomes to do shit like make the Paladins, presumably sought to on a wider scale, maintain balance & order in the world

[limpid saddle]

Very

[mighty zenith]

twelve hot

[limpid saddle]

thirty hot

[amber cedar]

slime guy

[mighty zenith]

thats a lot of hot

[cloud ibex]

Maybe 11 during the winter

[mighty zenith]

omg eem

[amber cedar]

hi

[mighty zenith]

[limpid saddle]

I didnt know the calamitas plushie could rotate

[mighty zenith]

[swift badger]

when DOG plushy

💔

[indigo glade]

20 degrees Fargo.

[limpid saddle]

How'd this Fargo measurement bit even start?

[indigo glade]

Fargo time.

Such as days or minutes.

Then you can insert it into any other unit of measurement.

[limpid saddle]

Yeah I know

I meant it's origins

[swift badger]

is there Fargo tax?

[mighty zenith]

not again

no more tax please...

[sleek halo]

taxes you

[hoary berry]

xero

[mighty zenith]

[sleek halo]

takes every last penny

[amber cedar]

🥚🍳🐣

[mighty zenith]

shes so crusty

[sleek halo]

why is it

so low quality

[mighty zenith]

[sleek halo]

terriblr

throws u into the blender

(u will be atomized)

(scary blender)

[mighty zenith]

im scarier

ill scare the blender into blending itself

[amber cedar]

when i blend stuff my blender blade always flies out like a helicopter and chases me

[split mortar]

Have you paid the xeroc tax?

[mighty zenith]

die

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/daftpunk-daft-punk-explosion-epilogue-gif-20482285

[limpid saddle]

he has no image perms...

[dusk laurel]

[hoary berry]

[sleek halo]

desotyed

[spring helm]

How long ago was Aerialite dis-enchanted

Would it be a sort of lost technology?

[split mortar]

Long enough draedon made arsenal 1 with disemchanted aerialite in mind

[spring helm]

Did he? Or was that just what the Terrarian used to substitute something that Draedon used and we didn’t have

[noble niche]

I'm so exited for the update tomorrow

My mom is Mrs. Calamity so I'd know

[glad bough]

bro i have been playing calamity for years and just now realized it had lore, why is it kinda peak too

[split mortar]

Because the people making it cook

[glad bough]

Is there a lore summary or even an in-depth cover of the lore that is up to date?

[split mortar]

Theres a document with all in game up to date lore if you

[glad bough]

🙏

[split mortar]

#lore-discussion message
theres also this what if of providence winning if you want to give it a read whenever
-# its from cei, lead lore writer iirc

[noble niche]

Long ago there were dragons and theu were cool but one day the moon lord fucking killed a bunch of them. Moon lord then got exiled to the moon. Big papa dragon (not canon name) was all hurt and shit and a random human called xeroc said he'd help. Xeroc then consumed his immortal soul insead of helping like the awesome prankster that he is and became the first god. Everybody else also wanted to be god so humans killed every last dragon but one. The last dragon was Yharon and a couple thousand years later, a weird little man called Yharim was told to eat the last auric soul and become supergod (tm) he said no because dragons and so dope and as punishment both him and yharon were cast into lava. Yharon saved yharim at the last second tho and then yharim decided it would be fun to kill 99% of all gods. So he did. He got help from a bunch of super powerful people like calamitas, dreadon, and permafrost. In yharims crusade he removed an ocean from the map, killed the god of life like four times not relizing that she'd just come back every time, accidentoy made the crimson and corruption, murdered millions, fucked everything up, and liked bees (he likes bees). Now he's all edgy and stuff and resides on the dragon aerie. You, the terrarian are by one reason or another, busted to shit, and now you are going around trying to restore balence and kill yharim for good

[shut tide]

holy shit

[robust osprey]

isnt it zeratros

or thats some headcanon everyone takes as canon

[split mortar]

It is zeratros

As dragon king

[robust osprey]

you forgot the part where draedon makes pbg and yharim breaks up with draedon

[magic epoch]

this sucks </3 i apologize

[indigo glade]

This sucks. ||And I don't apologise.||

[gaunt sluice]

Yharim Signature Hand Sanitizer
Kills 99.9% of all gods

[split mortar]

Lmao

[gaunt sluice]

(noxus spray)

[light linden]

I mean

at that point just put it in drinking water

boom gods are dead

[gaunt sluice]

if you were immortal

would you drink water

[light linden]

I mean

a few gods lived in water

[gaunt sluice]

but did they drink it

[light linden]

am I really about to

yeah screw it

@spare pier hey did gods drink water?

[dusk laurel]

🗡️

[spare pier]

Yeah?

[tall delta]

some probably didnt need to drink water

[gaunt sluice]

I'm just imagining providence waiting patiently for her river water to boil so it's safe to drink

[light linden]

ok ty

sorry for the ping

[spare pier]

All good

[hoary cape]

Rebecca going to check a ping in lore chat and seeing that the ping was if gods drink water

Peak lore chat

[cloud ibex]

@spare pier have they found it yet

[spare pier]

No