lore-discussion

[pliant ruin]

you have alot of animalistic bosses already aster...

[sleek halo]

ok but weaver is funny

I like him more

[pliant ruin]

and this wouldn't make him a smart thinker either, he's still a feral primal guy creature....

[manic coral]

people will argue how strong cal is like she doesn't have the single most explicit display of power of any character in calamaity right now

[sleek halo]

true..

[manic coral]

to go from "ok everybody above her has to be stronger than this probably and everybody below has to be weaker than this probably"

[sleek halo]

I still like how it goes from

A witch who evaporated half a aea

mechanical guys powered by an energy source that’ll never run out

[spring helm]

but exactly how strong she is depends on how long it took her to do it

[sleek halo]

to left right goodnight

[split mortar]

All thats coming to my head is

Azafure burn(she was half of it and was ages ago)

Illmeris boil(took ages and also ages ago)

[sleek halo]

Which is very humorous to me

[manic coral]

the incineration was only like 10 years ago

[split mortar]

She can have grown since then

In skill or power or both

[sleek halo]

I think it would’ve likely only taken a few days for ilmeris

[sleek halo]

imo she is static in actual strength

but she just gets more skillful

at utilizing it

[manic coral]

yeah basically

[sleek halo]

so she’d “get stronger”

but it’s just her bettrr utilizing her magic

and learning new stuff

[spring helm]

ki control
dragon ball referenced!!!!!

[limpid saddle]

Cei if you got to make one Calamity extra thing, like a show, or a movie, or even a merchandising deal with a shoe brand or something, what would be your dream thing to do with it

[sleek halo]

shut up

[spring helm]

no

[sleek halo]

What have you unleashed upon us.

[indigo glade]

Oddly specific specification.

[gritty kraken]

Calamity in gromit and Wallace style

[hoary berry]

why do i feel like i've heard the shoe brand thing before

[split mortar]

Maybe mihai making sick ass shoe designs?

[hoary berry]

i didn't know about that

OH WAIT

BlueSR hollow knight shitpost competition where hornet got mad drip

not sure how i mixed that up with calamity ngl

[limpid saddle]

My querie shall go unanswered... I guess

[mighty zenith]

silkrot

[hoary berry]

[mighty zenith]

📣

[dusk laurel]

Perhaps

it's the outdated enemy designs

[wheat walrus]

🔥

"DoG is a multiversal destroyer" people when this their verse's highest-yielding feat that was also done over the timespan of weeks that is considered both by the story and by the developers to be the most destructive display of power so far (the calculations here are also highball and I have more specific calculations based on what I could gather that yield lower, even if not way too lower)

[sleek halo]

U don’t understand

the song name…

universal collapse

[robust osprey]

okay but

[sleek halo]

obviously means the universe colapsinfg…

[robust osprey]

Scal has calamity in the song name

that instantly makes her omnipotent

[sleek halo]

true

[wheat walrus]

my 7 years old song that was made by a stressed dokuro in a rush and based on ancient outdated lore upscales my goat dog to sigmaversal 🔥

[sleek halo]

REAL

[dusk laurel]

Devourer of Betas

[wheat walrus]

devourer of alphas

[gloomy meadow]

man poor Dokuro

fucked up what they did to him

[wheat walrus]

a mixture of bad and childish community and dokuro not being stable on his own led to that, it's sad yea

personally I'd not talk about it much though, Dokuro wouldn't even want it to be talked about

[gloomy meadow]

damn he had some problems of his own too

damn that's even more fucked up

[wheat walrus]

yea for all I know he had mental health problems on his side too

[fallen kiln]

I'm kinda new to this lore thing. But wasn't the Moon Lord supposed to be stronger in game? I mean, he killed a lot of dragons during the Draconic Era. Or did he lose a lot of power after being sealed in the moon?

[pliant ruin]

the latter yuh

[sleek halo]

He is severely weakened rn

[fallen kiln]

Alr, makes sense

[sleek halo]

he used to be

the second strongest entity we know of

behind Xeroc

But uh… yea not anymore

[fallen kiln]

Did Xeroc absorbed the King Dragons's soul?

[manic coral]

Yea. I mean, seeing him now, he's visibly missing. well. a lot.

at leats most of the lower half of the body, several organs, the top part of its head, has a aprtly exposed heart, and so on

[sleek halo]

genuinely I cannot imagine ripping someone in half

and they’re still kicking your ass

They don’t wven have legs now

[limpid saddle]

Uh, Zeratros wasn't a king but yeah

He held the domain of Primordial Light

[sleek halo]

[limpid saddle]

& that was pretty powerful

so Xeroc was pretty powerful

[sleek halo]

You’re just like “excuse me sir, I ripped you in half, pls die”

[split mortar]

cutting someone in half, scooping out almost all organs, nearly tearing out their heart and breaking their skull

AND THEY CONTINUE TO KICK YOUR ASS AND SURVIVE THAT FOR 800 YEARS WITH NO FOOD OR WATER

[fallen kiln]

and Yharim?

[sleek halo]

Yharim is tied for 4th

[split mortar]

Like fourth

[sleek halo]

with Zeratros

he might be a tad stronger depending on

writer interpretations

[fallen kiln]

How is he so strong?

[limpid saddle]

killing people for 100 years

[sleek halo]

Attuned with Yharon

has been in a war for a century

[limpid saddle]

Bonding with yharon's soul

[manic coral]

effort

[sleek halo]

and is well

[limpid saddle]

Auric tesla armor

[manic coral]

and ambition

[sleek halo]

he’s hust

built different

[limpid saddle]

Alot of things

[fallen kiln]

ok, so the human potential is crazy

[sleek halo]

Yes

[manic coral]

not any more than anything else

it's not a matter of beign gifted or whatever

it's a matter of effort and trying hard

[sleek halo]

Ok well it is definitely partially that

[manic coral]

only to a certain extent

i mean

[sleek halo]

Yharim is definitely physically gifted

[manic coral]

see: slime god

like

[sleek halo]

People aren’t just

uh

[manic coral]

slime god is STRONG, yeah

but

[sleek halo]

7ish feet tall LOL

[manic coral]

comapre to, say, providence

[sleek halo]

wwll tbf

sliem god is also actively going against his nature

[fallen kiln]

I imagine how tall is the terrarian

[tepid timber]

Has there been any gods that tried to reason with yharim? Like try a peace offering or anything like that?

[sleek halo]

like 5’8ish

[sleek halo]

maybe at the start

but I imagine uh

[hoary cape]

They are shorter than 6ft because they fit through 6ft gaps

[sleek halo]

after 5 decades

[hoary cape]

So yah 5'8 makes sense

[sleek halo]

you would realize “this guy won’t listen”

[sleek halo]

I think Yharim definitely worked for his strength but

he was definitely gifted as well

He’s like an olympic athlete

they all work their asses off

but not everyone who does can compete at their level

no matter what

Yharim is gifted, but he took that to the extreme

like afaik

he is the strongest mortal being to ever live, at least on terraria

[limpid saddle]

Next to you

[fallen kiln]

Is Yahrim depressed?

[limpid saddle]

The terrarian

[tepid timber]

Maybe a little

But only cause he didn’t complete his objective

[spare pier]

Yharim is "gifted" in the sense that he just has a slight genetic edge over a few people but I never consider those genetic edges as a sign of his power, like

[fallen kiln]

he did not kill xeroc?

[spare pier]

I don't treat them as a power boost

I treat them as an EXP boost

[tepid timber]

Hell no

[sleek halo]

lol no

[spare pier]

[tepid timber]

He would die

[hoary cape]

Ain't no one killing xeroc

[tepid timber]

Xeroc cooks him

[sleek halo]

Yeah

That’s what I mean

[hoary cape]

Yharim didn't kill slime god or provi though

We stole his kills

[spare pier]

Anyone could be as strong as Yharim, they'd just need to work a bit harder than he did (and he still worked his ass off)

[long gate]

Eg. The player

[sleek halo]

well…

[fallen kiln]

Yahrim + DoG + Calamitas can't kill Xeroc?

[hoary cape]

Nope

[sleek halo]

Being attuned to a uh

auric dragon

[tepid timber]

Nah

[sleek halo]

sure does help

[fallen kiln]

Damn

[long gate]

Isnt xeroc literally all-powerful

[sleek halo]

no

[tepid timber]

I wish I could attune to an auric dragon

[sleek halo]

xeroc isnjust

very fucking strong

immensely strong

[hoary cape]

Xeroc is just the strongest being in the lore

[fallen kiln]

I have seem a lot of people saying that Yahrim is gonna be the Final Boss or something like that

so i thought he was stronger than xeroc

[hoary cape]

Final boss yes

[tepid timber]

He’s the god of primordial light correct? Since he attuned with zeratros?

[long gate]

Whats zeratros

[limpid saddle]

He didnt attune

[hoary cape]

He didn't attune with zeratros he took the dragons power

[limpid saddle]

He ate his soul

[tepid timber]

Yeah that

[limpid saddle]

The Auric Dragon of Primordial Light

very strong dragon

[long gate]

But dead?

[tepid timber]

Forgot attuning is different

[limpid saddle]

Critically injured in the conflict with the moon-lord

[fallen kiln]

Is he the Dragon King?

[limpid saddle]

Then Xeroc came along & something something we dont know what happened Xeroc is the first God

[tepid timber]

There isn’t really a dragon king

[long gate]

Wait so is moonlord weakened when we fight him?

[tepid timber]

He was just the strongest dragon iirc

[hoary cape]

By a lot

[limpid saddle]

There is no 'dragon king' what the fuck are you guys talking about

[long gate]

Damn, i kinda wanna fight him at full power now

[limpid saddle]

Seriously where did this idea come from

is it an old lore thing?

[tepid timber]

Probably a YouTube video

[hoary cape]

Full powered moon lord would be above yharim lol

[fallen kiln]

calamity brainrot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8_-BUQtjjI

[long gate]

💥

[spare pier]

My brother in Christ

Zeratros himself was gravely injured. It seemed his power, along with his life, would be lost forever.
One mortal, sworn to the service of the Dragons, rose in determination to save their virtuous King.

[hoary cape]

Damn facts and logic won

[fallen kiln]

Where i can find this info?

[spare pier]

Lore Items

[limpid saddle]

uh requiem i think?

[spare pier]

That is Prelude

[tepid timber]

Should all be in the lore doc yeah?

[bleak escarp]

It is

[long gate]

I forgor

[bleak escarp]

I read the whole thing like, last week

[fallen kiln]

Is the Terrarian just built different, or is there a reason for his existence?

[limpid saddle]

The former

[tepid timber]

I should read the entire thing some time

[bleak escarp]

We’re just better

[mighty zenith]

the image

i dont have the image

(terrarian is your character, you come up with a reason for their existence)

[bleak escarp]

I has image but I can no image

No permissions

[long gate]

Send imgur link idk

[bleak escarp]

If you scroll through media after clicking the channel name you find it eventually

[long gate]

Oh thx

[dusk laurel]

[dusk laurel]

[split mortar]

The terrarian is your character

They are up to you to decide

[fallen kiln]

That's nice

[fallen kiln]

send to me in the dm's please

[bleak escarp]

I did

[dusk laurel]

#lore-discussion message

You could just

look at the pins

[split mortar]

[dusk laurel]

The document isn't like

a super secret

You can still post the link here too

[tepid timber]

#lore-discussion moment

[split mortar]

[dusk laurel]

it just won't embed

which

doesn't matter

[fallen kiln]

ok sorry i'll not discuss lore, i'll read the document

[dusk laurel]

You can still discuss lore

there's a lot of info not ingame yet

which gives a lot of context or explanation for things mentioned ingame

[tepid timber]

The channel is for discussing lore

[fallen kiln]

ik, i'm just kidding

[sleek halo]

but ya I would uh

recommend reading most of it before asking questions

[split mortar]

I never read the lore doc

[sleek halo]

just incase it answers it already

[sleek halo]

[mighty zenith]

imposter

like

[sleek halo]

Ok buddy

you’re done

[mighty zenith]

[sleek halo]

pack your bags

i’m sending u to a world with NO big robot guys or girls

and no concept of them

[mighty zenith]

WHAT

evil

[sleek halo]

U must pay for your sins

[mighty zenith]

redemption is unnecessary

[stoic gulch]

how lorious

[mighty zenith]

if there is no one to judge me

[wide cosmos]

So ||Wrath of god officially ditched noxus||

[split mortar]

Yeah
And?

[limpid saddle]

Uhuh

[wide cosmos]

Nothing, just an interesting observation

[stoic gulch]

no

we are all evil

[wide cosmos]

I saw some of the new wog update, some of the new UI element implementation I think can be useful to cal lore implementation ingame

Instead of that one weird floating lore item every boss we sometimes forget

[dusk laurel]

That's already planned to be killed

Well

the item

not the lore it gives

[wide cosmos]

Ah yeah i guess that’s true

Which is a good thing

Similar how vanilla banner’s getting killed, which is a even better thing

[dusk laurel]

The banner system is being changed

[wide cosmos]

Yep

[dusk laurel]

but banners are staying as items

[wide cosmos]

I can’t wait

For not focusing on building and out of nowhere my minion killed apparently 7800th green slime

Anyway I generally dislike cutscenes and prefer environmental storytelling, but at this point, cutscene is better than just a item for texts

[dusk laurel]

I don't mind text really

most games have lore in descriptions of items or enemies

[wide cosmos]

I don’t mind either, but there’s better ways I think

[dusk laurel]

environmental storytelling is great

[wide cosmos]

Yeah flavor texts are awesome when done right

[pliant ruin]

enviromental storytelling is good but it dosent mean text is bad

both can be good depending on execution and the goal they wish to accomplish

[dusk laurel]

Yeah

Cutscenes are okay but

they don't work as well in Terraria imo

[wide cosmos]

Hm

I mean the one thing I can think of rn is the interlude music

Which is kinda like one. If player end up just do other stuff in game while the music plays it’s kinda lame anyway lmao

[dusk laurel]

Interludes are just that

interludes

[spring helm]

dragon ball coded
i see your inspirations cei

[wide cosmos]

Just saw this and laughed so hard:

Terrarian's adventure:
Summons Wall of Flesh: "what the fuck is that"
Summons Moon Lord: "what the fuck is that"
Summons ||Avatar of Emptiness||: "what the fuck is that"
Gets saved by Nameless Deity: "what the fuck is that"

[pliant ruin]

so true

[cyan kernel]

cant imagine whats going on for the terrarian in-universe

either ptsd unrivalled or they just dont care

[split mortar]

You decide

They’re your character afterall

[pliant ruin]

[cyan kernel]

valid point

[spring helm]

When did this get added

Oh it’s from the other server

[split mortar]

Thought it was elhuevo?

[dusk laurel]

no

i don't have emoji adding perms there

[split mortar]

Bitchlamity?

[dusk laurel]

just

check what server the emoji is from

[wheat walrus]

SSCLS

[dusk laurel]

Solidus Snake's Cooking Lair Show

[split mortar]

1. Thought you were popcorn
2. I was asking what the other server was

[dusk laurel]

I already answered 2 in that message basically

1 is just a skill issue

[wheat walrus]

Spirit Slash Combo Long Sword

[split mortar]

No

You answered what server it is from

I wasnt asking that

[dusk laurel]

The other server is that

[split mortar]

Is what

Also why you answering for popcorn

[dusk laurel]

I'll let you ruminate on that

since you have illiteracy virus for now

[split mortar]

Nah i re read what you said

You didnt

[split mortar]

Unless you meant this somehow

[dusk laurel]

The other server = the server the emoji is from (sscls)

stinky

[split mortar]

Im on about the server that isnt sscls you stinker

[wheat walrus]

[dusk laurel]

you are the only person talking about that

[wheat walrus]

[split mortar]

THEN WHY ARE YOU ANSWERING MY QUESTION

[dusk laurel]

Thought it was elhuevo?

[wheat walrus]

You mean Eggcord, Bitchlamity or an unknown factor

[split mortar]

Those where my guesses for what server popcorn thought it originally from

[dusk laurel]

Ever thought of calmain

Not everyone has nitro

and Cheese only recently just got it again

[split mortar]

Like calmain would add that as a emote

[dusk laurel]

People can make really stupid assumptions if they don't think clearly/see a message in a split second

You have the benefit of already knowing that emoji exists in sscls

which means you're biased

stinky

[split mortar]

I also have the downside of being a dumbass

I dont think popcorn is as much of one as me

[dusk laurel]

How loreful

[split mortar]

[barren sonnet]

Would it be fine with the writers if I did a fanmade lore rewrite?

[stoic gulch]

Yes a lot of people does it here!

But don’t expect it to become canon or something alike

[barren sonnet]

Well of course, just for funsies

[stoic gulch]

Good luck with whatever you’re doing

[split mortar]

Then Yeah its fine

[stoic gulch]

And you can also post it here as I don’t think it’s considered spam

I may be wrong so consult a mod if you want to do that

[drifting oriole]

that guy went there and made something then the other guy started doing things and then another guy came and then some things happened so they fighted and the guy find the another guy and that guy was going to brazil so the crazy guy eat a cheeseburguer

this is the true calamity lore

[late veldt]

How many 'Sigils' do we know of/have? Like the Sigil of Primordial Light and Yharim's Sigil (also is that Yharon's sigil originally or?)

[dusk laurel]

It's called Yharim's Insignia

idk if it's a sigil

i doubt it tho

Currently, we only have a PL sigil

although the other gods that are ingame fully and/or partially will get them too

[analog robin]

Noticed that they rewrote the lore items since I last played

Definitely a good thing because the first time it took quite a while to realize that they’re narrated by like

[indigo glade]

You haven't played in two years...

[analog robin]

A guy

Yeah

It’s been a while

[indigo glade]

Next update will be very lore filled.

[analog robin]

Ok

[late veldt]

When I last played it was like. the death mode environment effects were still in the game

[indigo glade]

(By the way, you should read the bestiary entries if you are intrigued in the lore, they reveal a lot more truths)

[analog robin]

Cool

The guy has a name right he’s not just War Crime Guy as I call him in my head

[indigo glade]

Correct.

[glacial rampart]

Yharim

[analog robin]

Ok

[mighty zenith]

accurate name though

[split mortar]

Yharim who alo i fact does a lot of war crimes

[analog robin]

He dumped car batteries into the ocean

[split mortar]

Kinda?
More so azafure

Though draedon who worked for him at the time did dump live nukes and nuclear waste there

[spring helm]

Yharim is namedropped, but you do have to pay attention when he is to know that he’s the one speaking to you

Dude doesn’t just go

“My name is Yharim
I started the Crusade
It was difficult to kill all the gods”

[hoary berry]

[dusk laurel]

Sinless fire

it's causing an entire inferno

[indigo glade]

I think Providence was right, actually.

[spring helm]

They hate us because they ain’t us

-Silva

[dusk laurel]

Those who live

[sleek halo]

LOL

[spring helm]

Aren’t you supposed to be asleep

[sleek halo]

why

[spring helm]

Idk

You said bye earlier

[sleek halo]

it’s 5:36 pm

Injust had to finish showering

[spring helm]

Why are you in the same time zone as me

Get out

[sleek halo]

L

bozo

[split mortar]

No theyre in your walls

[sleek halo]

true

[abstract gyro]

@cosmic zenith not sure if it's fine to ping you

You mentioned that one of your inspiration (for Chrysadia I believe) was Silmarillion, may I ask in what way exactly?

also I've learned that Cei was greatly inspired by Morrowind and reading her explanations on that topic (I just finished going through all the messages containing "Morrowind" in it) has been a pleasure

[cosmic zenith]

I can't explain how, but I can tell you what

It was inspired by the great journey of the Elves to Valinor, and the origin of Númenor

[abstract gyro]

that's interesting, I appreciate this answer

I have set myself a glorious purpose to run a DnD (mostly for the lack of familiarity with other systems) campaign in Calamity's setting, so now I have a bit better understanding of Azafure and Chrysadia to fill up the yet-unexplained lore holes with improvised lore

[runic swallow]

John wulfrum

[wheat walrus]

[magic epoch]

John Wolfram

[amber cedar]

how is ccccc. cndjfjtbtbbt g

[manic coral]

morrowind

Have an extra message saying it to read

[abstract gyro]

morrowind

[frigid sage]

I like the Tolkien lore

[light linden]

hey stip can I ask a question about dragon design?

[latent bolt]

is it canon that yharim has multiple different weapons that he uses in combat beyond his sword

[limpid saddle]

I mean he's probably whipped someone to death with a severed spinal columb but not that I know of

[glacial rampart]

where does sofia the first fit into the calamity canon

[sinful adder]

The princess NPC is her

[spring helm]

true and factual

many dont know this but the Kingdom of Enchancia was one of the first to stand up against Yharim

[real silo]

does enchancia harbor a god

[abstract gyro]

Well it's probably a good idea to ask you guys another question as well

Have you had the experience of being a writer prior to joining Calamity team? How hard was it to start working on your very first project?

I feel the desire to create a unique thing, but I can't help but feel I only can recycle things I'd seen elsewhere, and can't do even that well (impostor syndrome ig), and I want to know if that's common for someone who never wrote stuff

[frigid sage]

That is a great question

[ionic harness]

Mother?

I would like to apologize for that.

[limpid saddle]

what

[ionic harness]

Wasn’t even me

[real silo]

I know what you are

[glacial rampart]

bro can people just be normal

[wheat walrus]

imma pass it up for Aido since he the founder of the Braelor likes Ant meme but yea hold back gng

[split mortar]

Nearly had another incident

[wheat walrus]

anyways no people cannot just be normal time to sear the planet 🔥

[glacial rampart]

i wont pass it up for the founder of an annoying meme

[wheat walrus]

💔

[real silo]

Don't you mean

An antoying meme

[wheat walrus]

yep

[cosmic zenith]

Sure!

[fair pelican]

So, I just saw the Avatar of Emptiness fight
While I’m pretty confident the official noxus fight wouldn’t be anything like that, I have to ask, will it have the elements of horror of the fight?

[split mortar]

Im pretty sure almost everything noxus is kept like
On extra high secrecy
-# we dunno and i doubt we will be told

[real silo]

noxus will have limbs

[hoary berry]

possibly

[pliant ruin]

That's neither really a lore question nor something we're really aware of

[magic epoch]

that is sylveon

[pliant ruin]

whar

[limpid saddle]

A Noxus fight isn't even confirmed man

The superbosses are still up in the air as a 'if we ever get this done we'll do this'

we shrimply dont have the information to be asking any questions like that

[limpid saddle]

also true really not a lore question

[fair pelican]

So super bosses won’t happen?

[pliant ruin]

up in the air

may or may not happen

[minor moon]

im good with wrath of the gods,adding superbosses will just waste the dev team's time as they can always collaberate with WotG

[pliant ruin]

is this bait

[fair pelican]

If they don’t happen will we be able to get the answers the devs are keeping secret for now?

[pliant ruin]

dunno probably

[fair pelican]

Are you asking me?

[minor moon]

No

[pliant ruin]

nah

harp

hard to tell atp

[limpid saddle]

I think the harp account is controlled by a cia operative

[limpid saddle]

They might

[fair pelican]

To my understanding, the super bosses would be added after everything else in the mod was done

Which if that’s the case how it would be wasting dev’s time?

[pliant ruin]

It's just a matter of whether devs have the energy and motivation to do so

[fair pelican]

Oh

[pliant ruin]

If they still wanna work on the mod after yharim, then yeh, the two superbosses will come

[limpid saddle]

Not to mention WOTG is working to seperate itself specifically so when Calamity make their own spin on Noxus & Xeroc as bossfights they arent in competition

[pliant ruin]

if not, the mod will end at yharim

[limpid saddle]

That's why Avatar Of Emptiness & Nameless Diety exist

[wheat walrus]

WoTG isn't collabing w Cal and they aren't adding Cal's superbosses either, AoE and ND are as close to Noxus and Xeroc as being Lucille's own take and development on the initial concepts for those 2

[pliant ruin]

i am noxus

hello it is me noxus

[wheat walrus]

It's a very cool project she did, but we should understand that they aren't working alongside Calamity

[minor moon]

And, yharim update is probably in a few eons

[limpid saddle]

noxus how do you feel about the homophobic beliefs of your employee mr devourer

[minor moon]

So we have time

[pliant ruin]

noxus did not know about this conundrum. devourer will be baked soon

[fair pelican]

Well if they don’t want to continue after Yharim I hope they at least release what they would have planned for super bosses

[limpid saddle]

💖

[gritty kraken]

Noxus stop spawning crimulan paladin I hate crimulan paladin

[fair pelican]

Cause I like concept art and stuff

[wheat walrus]

Yea same

[limpid saddle]

Well we have the Xeroc pre-ascension concept art

[fair pelican]

Yeah, but post ascension is to my understanding a secret until devs either make the update or officially cancel it

[pliant ruin]

yeh id believe taht

would be nice to get the art and stuff if they dotn come

[split mortar]

Yeah id like it if we did get some of the plans if they dont add them

[fair pelican]

Do devs have a update map planned?

[limpid saddle]

Yeah, Sunken Sea Part 1 & 2, currently being done

Then there's the Crags re-work i think

I dunno like vanillin has a more comprehensive list I think

[fair pelican]

Crag is the parasite crab?

[minor moon]

Xeroc pre ascension is wall level

[limpid saddle]

No like

The Brimstone Crag

[minor moon]

While post ascension is high outerversal

[limpid saddle]

azafure

[limpid saddle]

LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER

[limpid saddle]

LOUDER INCORRECT BUZZER

[fair pelican]

No it isn’t
Not even ND /pre retcon xeroc is that

[mighty zenith]

your face is about to be curb level

[pliant ruin]

i genuinely can't tell if a single message harp says is serious or not

[limpid saddle]

Garbo can you kill him for being wrong & making bait posts please

[gritty kraken]

when the bait is uhhjhjgghv
Donut mhmm donut yeah

[pliant ruin]

mmm donut

wish i had one

[minor moon]

headcannon

https://tenor.com/view/cannon-artillery-army-military-war-gif-20094241

[limpid saddle]

yeah somebody must've blasted you in the brain with one

[mighty zenith]

fun fact its fat thursday today

[fair pelican]

Oh I have a lore question I remembered

[split mortar]

No

Not even moon level

[mighty zenith]

so i can eat all the donuts

[fair pelican]

So, someone said before that the dragon souls are like splits of the world/terraria soul

[minor moon]

Do yall think terrarian gonna be irrevelant layers into boundless level?

[split mortar]

And pre ascension was def post provi level meaning city

[fair pelican]

So I’m asking, why did it split, if Cthulhu only appeared after dragons

[limpid saddle]

no

[minor moon]

i think not

[limpid saddle]

Cthulu has been de-canonized my friend

[gritty kraken]

Now that remind me
I’ve seen a conversation like
“No stop correcting me on the lore it’s my headcanon I don’t care”

[split mortar]

Terrarian being your OC:

[limpid saddle]

it's old lore

[thick slate]

[fair pelican]

Considering not even the most bullshit Minecraft mod with Metanarrative and multiversal stuff can do that, no

[limpid saddle]

I hate headcanon so much bro 💔

[fair pelican]

I say Cthulhu as in “prime moonlord”

[limpid saddle]

call 'em Fovos

[split mortar]

Cthulhu means something different in calamity

[thick slate]

fovos finted

[mighty zenith]

headcanons are cool

[fair pelican]

Wait it does?

[split mortar]

And fovos isnt the name for prime moonlord

[limpid saddle]

[minor moon]

https://tenor.com/view/evangelion-neon-genesis-evangelion-gif-23223630

[split mortar]

Yeah
“Great beast” is what it means

[mighty zenith]

the issue is people abusing them so they can claim whatever they think is canon even if it definitely isnt

[limpid saddle]

he keeps forgetting he doesnt have image perms

[minor moon]

Moonlord is universal

[limpid saddle]

no he isnt 💔 💔 💔

[fair pelican]

Maybe in canon terraria

[dusk laurel]

Sunken Sea Overhaul P1 and P2 -> Minor biome updates -> Crags Overhaul -> ? -> Distortion -> ? -> Dragon's Aerie and Yharim

[limpid saddle]

ahah i recalled correctly

[fair pelican]

By the way can someone answer my question about lore?
Why the world soul split into dragon souls if prime moonlord only appeared during dragon age?

[split mortar]

We dunno

World soul just

Did split

[fair pelican]

Do we have a name for Prime ML?

[dusk laurel]

No

It's just Moon Lord

[minor moon]

Cthulhu

[mighty zenith]

theres like one sentence about the world soul currently, we dunno

[dusk laurel]

Rage bait

[split mortar]

No

Cause you dont become a different being after getting nearly killed

[mighty zenith]

prime moon lord and moon lord are the same entity

so it doesnt have a specific name before it got sealed

[minor moon]

Moonlord is weak, i dunno whats the deal with the strongest dragons of that time

[limpid saddle]

can someone please like mute him

[minor moon]

Oh well

[pastel path]

you are fighting half of him

[gritty kraken]

no i frame abuse

[minor moon]

Oh

Thanks

[pastel path]

his lower torso is missing

plus internal organs

[limpid saddle]

also most of his organs

[fair pelican]

Plus part of his brain

And an eye

[gritty kraken]

Imagine if fovos lower half was like mountain sized

[limpid saddle]

Moon Lord with a functioning thyroid & liver is instantly stronger than yharim

[fair pelican]

And probably his spinal cord if we assume EoW

[split mortar]

You are fighting the cut in half, scooped out most organs, head split open and left alone on the moon for 800 years version of moonlord

[gritty kraken]

umm actually

[pastel path]

moon lord is not Cthulhu in cal lore

silly

[split mortar]

Brain of cthulhu and eye of cthulhu and eater of worlds are all just creations of the evil biomes

And the terrarian sucks at naming so true eye pf cthulhu is what they named the eyes iirc

[gritty kraken]

They should add a corruption variant of EoC…..

And it’s

Purple

[split mortar]

Demonite ore can drop from eoc

[fair pelican]

They already do it’s called Eater of worlds

Oh wait nevermind

EoC is biomeless I think

[split mortar]

Both corruption and crimson can make eocs i think

[gritty kraken]

EoC look more like a crimson creature so

[limpid saddle]

Corruption EoC is just a massive levitating shadow orb

[gritty kraken]

I think of like

That one summons

eye of night

[clear girder]

is Yharim evil? I really couldn't tell from the lore..

[gritty kraken]

Yes

[clear girder]

but the gods he killed were terrible people

[minor moon]

He is not

[minor moon]

Based

[gritty kraken]

An entire Hallow biome prove otherwise

[mighty zenith]

he tells you the gods were terrible people

[minor moon]

They were

Yharim aint gonna lie

[mighty zenith]

he also tells you he let arsonists burn churches with innocent people inside

[fair pelican]

He is lawful evil
He has some qualities and he didn’t necessarily meant to ruin the world, but he was too imparcial
Not all gods were evil, even if they did took souls of dragons,
And the damage he caused in his conquest ruined the world more than any god

[minor moon]

They worshipped gods

[fair pelican]

Also not all dragons were good either

[split mortar]

He also killed 20% of the global population, manipulated atleast 1 child commited genocides and is racist

[clear girder]

didnt D.O.G kinda manipulate him in some way?

[minor moon]

all gods shall die

[gritty kraken]

Ummmm what the cr*p stop throwing that banana gum cookie bait at us

[minor moon]

In the name of yharim

[mighty zenith]

yharim was doing horrible shit before DoG showed up

[split mortar]

He actively says dog is shit at lying and convincing others iirc

[mighty zenith]

also

Yharim is a grown-ass man

[fair pelican]

Some dragons destroyed things for the sake of it

Oh yeah he’s also racist against non human societies that aren’t dragons

[split mortar]

Also dog showed up in the last parts of the crusade iirc

Like quite late in

[minor moon]

Humans are holy

[split mortar]

So the whole

Genocide and killing millions happened

[mighty zenith]

if an evil fucked up space serpent told you to destroy civilizations would a non-evil person listen to it?

[minor moon]

Everything expect humans and dragons are a spawn of devil

[fair pelican]

Dude shut up this is not the imperium

And yharim isnt the god emperor

[mighty zenith]

he's either lying out his ass about DoG's manipulation or pushes all the blame on DoG despite being the most influencial person in the world

[gritty kraken]

expect

[fair pelican]

He also pushes his blame on Draedon
Even though Draedon didn’t do much except give Yharim weapons when he asked

[minor moon]

Draedon enslaved those poor bees

[split mortar]

Fyi the hallowed is made of explicitly only good gods he had killed, possibly made of hundreds of their essence

That was yharim

He broke pbg out

[minor moon]

?

[fair pelican]

Yharim was ok with turning living things in weapons until Draedon turned into bees
He was ok with merging people into the polthergeist and make so many people die in pain that the dungeon became as cursed as an evil biome

[split mortar]

Lmao

[minor moon]

Bees are cute

Yharim is understandable

[gritty kraken]

If draedon have an emotion he would’ve blow up the screen yharim was talking to him with

[minor moon]

https://tenor.com/view/yharim-walk-walking-terraria-calamity-gif-21013369

[clear girder]

yharim made the polterghast?

[mighty zenith]

he let the polterghast form

he couldve killed it and literally just... decided not to

didnt care about the prisoners and guards left in there that got butchered by it

[fair pelican]

IIRC the polthergeist is hundreds of tormented souls turned into a thing
These souls are that way because he was doing North Korean and German WW2 treatment on prisioners

[split mortar]

Yeah he lets the thousands of people in the dungeon who were his prisoners and wardens to starve and die down there

His negligence caused their deaths and their hatred of him let them form the strongest normal souls we know of

[split mortar]

Could be thousands or even tens of thousands

[minor moon]

no,dungeon did not fully approve the yharim's right doings

[clear girder]

What about Yharon? Is he evil too?

[fair pelican]

Is a dog evil for doing what the owner said?

[split mortar]

Yes, he actively supported and pushed yharim down the path

[split mortar]

Yharon is smarter then yharim

[cloud ibex]

yharon is equally evil but he at least has a reason for it

[fair pelican]

But obeys him like a dog

[pliant ruin]

he dosen't?

he's his friend

[minor moon]

Yharim has a reason and it is absolutely right

[pliant ruin]

he dosen't "obey" yharim

[split mortar]

Except for the fact they may be going against yharims wishes when they fight us

[cloud ibex]

he watched his entire species get picked off one by one over the course of centuries and, with it, lost his entire purpose

[pliant ruin]

he does the things he does because both him and yharim share the same ideals

[split mortar]

And also are really good friends

[fair pelican]

Yharim implied that he knew Yharon was going to fight and let him, he even says in the lore Yharon gave his goodbyes

[clear girder]

Yharon prob is also thankful for not eating his soul or smth

[minor moon]

Egg

it was a egg

[split mortar]

Still
Gotta eat the soul to ascend

[cloud ibex]

yharon went out on his own, i interpret it as yharim telling him not to but yharon not listening because he's too concerned for yharim's safety

[minor moon]

but yharim didnt which proves he is innocent

[split mortar]

Eating yharons egg like a normal omelette will just result in them rebirthing again

[fair pelican]

Also question
Did the player permakill Yharon? We use his soul to make auric weapons without rebound

[pliant ruin]

yeah same

[fair pelican]

But theres that egg he drops

[pliant ruin]

thsi i mean

i agree w this

[cloud ibex]

cause after all, yharon can come back from death

yharim can't

[pliant ruin]

we use fragments of his soul

[split mortar]

We get a fraction of yharons soul

Not the full thing

[pliant ruin]

ye ^

[cloud ibex]

soul shavings, essentially

[split mortar]

Itll grow back for yharon

[minor moon]

Hunt of the old god presents

[fair pelican]

And he can be reborn even with a broken soul?

[split mortar]

Not canon

[cloud ibex]

might cause him some level of harm but not a very notable one

[split mortar]

Itll heal iirc

[clear girder]

wait why did permafrost leave?

[pliant ruin]

Because yharim was being really fucking evil

[clear girder]

Did he realize all the bad things that yharim was doing?

[pliant ruin]

and he wasl ike

[cloud ibex]

war crimes

wasn't a fan

[pliant ruin]

dude you're being really fucking evil i'm out

[split mortar]

Yeah

[fair pelican]

Because he didn’t want to partake in genocide anymore

Than Yharim turned into ice monster

[pliant ruin]

nah

[split mortar]

Scal did

[pliant ruin]

yharim ordered calamitas to kill perma

[clear girder]

understandable

[minor moon]

Permafrost deserved it

[pliant ruin]

but calamitas didn't want to kill her dad so after a "tearful confrontation" perma was sealed in cryogen instead

[split mortar]

Yharim sent scal ti kill perma

Scal trapped perma in ice construct to keep him safe and make it look pike a rogue construct of his

[pliant ruin]

i personally believe permafrost willing let himself be emprisoned so that cal could get away without being labelled as a traitor and he could yknownot fucking die

[fair pelican]

I was about to ask that

[cloud ibex]

(permafrost isn't her actual dad but he's earned the dad title by now

[pliant ruin]

adoptive dad p much

[split mortar]

The dad that stepped up basically

[fair pelican]

Is Yharim stronger than Pre-Ascension Xeroc?

[split mortar]

Yes

[pliant ruin]

i think so

[minor moon]

Ye

[split mortar]

Yharim rivals zeratros

The dragon king

[clear girder]

isn't he dead

[split mortar]

Yeah

But still

Was the strongest dragon ever

[fair pelican]

Theoretically speaking, what happens if a god eats another dragon soul
Because I know god+god = abomination because human part is impure
But what about god+dragon? Just a raw power boost?

[split mortar]

They get mentally fucked up

Maybe a power boost idk

But its not good

[cloud ibex]

i'd imagine a dragon consuming a soul would get about as fucked up as a person consuming a soul

[split mortar]

Oh wait i misread that as god consumes another auric soul

Oops

[clear girder]

so the players goal is to kill yharim and his allies or smth?

[split mortar]

Up to you

The terrarian is your character

[thick slate]

[pliant ruin]

[distant hornet]

some people interpret the lore as yharim goading the player character into destroying his legacy and the remnants of his empire so that the land can continue to heal, culminating with a fight to the death against yharim himself

[pliant ruin]

shared braincell

[thick slate]

amazing

[pliant ruin]

that's certainly a interpretation although it is objectively not the intended one

[split mortar]

Im pretty sure he is trying to get a successor

As in

Someone to continue the war

[thick slate]

i think my character is high as balls

[pliant ruin]

i can

[thick slate]

and is imagining everything

[pliant ruin]

understand why that conclusion would be reached though

even if, again, it's objectively not what's meant to be conveyed

[distant hornet]

maybe he wants someone who wasn't blinded and rendered cynical by the godseeker wars so that they can only go after the gods that actively do fucked up evil shit instead of just killing all the gods

[pliant ruin]

not really

[magic epoch]

the terrarian

[pliant ruin]

he still kind of wants to kill all gods

[manic coral]

hey sorry you caught me like an hour after i went to bed :p

yes, but for no actual big projects. just as a thing i enjoyed doing sometimes, along with already being very interested in figuring out how stories work and why they do the things they do and seeing how it's usually put in practice.

something to fundementally understand is that all art is derivative. we, as people, instinctually make things simmilar to other things we like. and really? that IS kind how i and a lot of other people i know make stories. combine aspects of other stories you like, and after you work on or even just think about them enough yourself, they'll naturally evolve into something new and you-branded as long as the genuine effort is there. that's my experience.

[pliant ruin]

in fact the entire reason he's still Like This is because he can't kill Xeroc

[distant hornet]

the fuck did the torch god do to him lmfao

[pliant ruin]

Well torch god may or amy not be a god but in general he hates all gods

[split mortar]

He views all gods as gods that do fucked up evil shit

[mighty zenith]

tbf torch god isnt even confirmed to be a god

[pliant ruin]

Yharim has a incredibly black n white view of the world etc etc lba bla bla dragon good god bad

[mighty zenith]

it could be an actual god

it could be a carbon-induced hallucination

[limpid saddle]

holy shit alot happened here

[pliant ruin]

when in reality neither groups was exclusively bad or exclusively good etc etc

[magic epoch]

noob vs pro vs god vs dragon vs hacker

[pliant ruin]

you can tlel from things like the slime god whisper taht yharim is actively still in support of the crusade and does not regret it

[gritty kraken]

Torch god is actually providence guys

[pliant ruin]

he views himself as a fallen hero

and not a mass genocide maniac

[split mortar]

Fallen cause he didnt do enough genocide iirc

[pliant ruin]

in a way he's kinda really self agrandizing and egotistical

[magic epoch]

call this a fallen paladin's hammer or something

[pliant ruin]

call this a Rain of Amethyst (like camellia)

[gusty zenith]

do you think if there's ever a yharim fight he'll be doing an Asgore where he doesn't wanna fight you but knows he must

[magic epoch]

woah that's mr

me

[manic coral]

why WOULDN'T he want to fight you

bro lives for fighting

[gusty zenith]

true

[pliant ruin]

I can see him being a fake asgore

[mighty zenith]

he literally tells you to go find him

so you can fight

[manic coral]

it is basically his only hobby

[pliant ruin]

In that asgore genuinely regrets his actions and is emotionally torn at fighting you
Yharim would act as if he was asgore but in reality he's more of a flowey

[distant hornet]

me when i irreparably damage the world of terraria by allowing the corpses of dead gods to fester into mutant creatures and flesh abominations as well as letting a giant serpent who 100% serves a higher nefarious power join my army

[split mortar]

Other then dragon history

[mighty zenith]

what i COULD see is yharim watering flowers by the grave of light like asgore

[gusty zenith]

Yea like that

[manic coral]

fair

[pliant ruin]

holy shit thats like

[mighty zenith]

then do a little monologue and jump into a fight where hes beating the shit out of you

[pliant ruin]

yharims entire character

[manic coral]

he like shistory and fighting

and even then

he likes fighting more

[pliant ruin]

hes a flowey that thinks hes asgore

[clear girder]

yes

[mighty zenith]

hes the undertale fandom in 2016 that thinks hes asgore

[cloud ibex]

counterpoint: beekeeping

[magic epoch]

dragon trivia ft. host yharon is his favorite tv show

[mighty zenith]

yes.

[pliant ruin]

ok back to watching invicinble s3 e6

[split mortar]

It has three seasons?

[pliant ruin]

make sure to watch invincible s3 ep6 as it is ar eally good show and you should watch it

yes s3 just came out recently

still ongoing

[deft vessel]

Yes

[split mortar]

Oh damn

[manic coral]

you know ive actually met them a few times before

they're super chill

cool dude

[mighty zenith]

mmm ive been meaning to watch invicible

[pliant ruin]

each season has around 10 episodes or so

[mighty zenith]

but i cant see him...

[pliant ruin]

u can catch up rly easily

[magic epoch]

camellia?

[limpid saddle]

I could see him tending to the flowers, raising his hand as a bee lands on his finger, raising it to the sky as it flutters away & he turns to you

[manic coral]

yes

[pliant ruin]

anyways i go now

[magic epoch]

that's awesome...

[mighty zenith]

bee lands on his finger and gets fried

[gusty zenith]

summoning yharim: killing prismatic bee

[limpid saddle]

real

[split mortar]

How to enrage yharim

Break a block in the aerie

[deft vessel]

Next secret seed after Yharim releases: if you kill a bee Yharim spawns on you

[manic coral]

lmao good luck with trying to do that

[gritty kraken]

must’ve been the gods fault

[split mortar]

Crystyl crusher

[manic coral]

[gusty zenith]

[manic coral]

nope

[gusty zenith]

Fabsol Pickaxe 🔥

[cloud ibex]

i did write yharim as not wearing armor all the time, but instead putting it on after my terrarian character first shows up in the aerie, but thinking about it now i suppose that wouldn't make sense if he already got ambushed once

[limpid saddle]

what about the mining ufo

[mighty zenith]

dragonbone pickaxe

[deft vessel]

Crusher crystal

[split mortar]

Dynamite

[manic coral]

if you could break off like a pebble that'd put you on relative power to immediatly post-ascension Xeroc

[gusty zenith]

Minecraft tnt

[gritty kraken]

An entirety of dragon aerie is confirmed to be made of yhores which will replace shadowspec bars

[deft vessel]

Melons head

[split mortar]

OH

[mighty zenith]

oh shit

[gloomy meadow]

HOLY FUCK IS THAT AN MOTHERFUCKING RLCRAFT REFERENCE

[split mortar]

Is the aerie like
Busted durable

[gusty zenith]

Interesting

[manic coral]

yes

[split mortar]

What the fuck

[gusty zenith]

So it's a picksaw kinda deal

[mighty zenith]

thats actually interesting as hell

[manic coral]

during the entire fovos invasion, not a single blade of grass broke

[limpid saddle]

why is it like that?

[gusty zenith]

yea cos weapons don't have durability

[cloud ibex]

well this kinda fucks with my idea of the fight beginning with Yharim punching you through several layers of rocks

hm.

[limpid saddle]

[split mortar]

What kind of fucked up evil spells be in the aerie making that happen

[manic coral]

yeah no not even Yharim can break it

[limpid saddle]

yeah

[gritty kraken]

Plot twist: an entire aerie is a cloud there’s no block or grasses so they doesn’t break

[mighty zenith]

man thats kind of lame

[limpid saddle]

Thats some time-stopping spell bullshit

[mighty zenith]

i wanna have yharim force the terrarian into the fucking dirt

[deft vessel]

The fucked up evil spell, duh

[manic coral]

Xeroc is the only person who's been able to even just chip something off

[mighty zenith]

planting a dumbass tree

[limpid saddle]

Fr....

[cloud ibex]

hold up

time stopping

[split mortar]

Wait fovos is weaker the. Xeroc right after ascending?

[cloud ibex]

maybe the Aerie is somehow frozen in time to embody how the Dragons thought their reign would never end

[gusty zenith]

I seem to be completely unaware of this new(?) lore coming up here like -- what is the Aerie

[manic coral]

"oh the ground is taking this city level attacks, is the ground city level hahah righ-" yes

yes, it is

at least on the aerie

[limpid saddle]

Anyway aerie being explicably durable is lame

& confusing

seriously is there a reason?

[gusty zenith]

The only lore post-current game content I've heard of is the distorted or something

[mighty zenith]

what

not that one

[split mortar]

We may learn that later

[mighty zenith]

[split mortar]

Crack theory

[mighty zenith]

why did that one get sent...

[limpid saddle]

Distortion, & no, thats for DoG

[split mortar]

Its whats left of the world soul after it shattered

[gusty zenith]

Yea ik, but what is the Aerie?

[limpid saddle]

It's where all the bosses he & those related to him are from

[limpid saddle]

The Dragon Aerie is the home of all dragons

[deft vessel]

The Romans came from our world to build the Aeria clearly

[gusty zenith]

Ohhhh ye

[limpid saddle]

It's also an area from Dark Souls 2

[gusty zenith]

nice

[manic coral]

yes

[gusty zenith]

everything is a reference

[split mortar]

Bro what the fuck is up with the aerie

It be made of super auric or something

[mighty zenith]

gokuversal aerie

[gritty kraken]

the yhores

[manic coral]

not by that much, i'd say on-par, remember that it was basiclaly a rampaging beast who mostly has endurance vs. xeroc who has more refinined and focused attacks

but also

something something it's symbolic

[cloud ibex]

wait shit this also fucks with the Aerie having a rock tablet with an engraving of the dragons talking about how cool and strong and eternal they are

god damn it

[manic coral]

incorrect

[mighty zenith]

just headcanon it smh

[split mortar]

Maybe uh

Only primordial light can harm the land there?

[mighty zenith]

[manic coral]

they could bring up other shit to the aerie it's not like there were nothing up there

[deft vessel]

The dragons mold it with their mind powers

[gusty zenith]

what does it mean to be ascended? how does one get to that status

[mighty zenith]

absorb an auric soul

[split mortar]

Use ascension ritual on a auric soul

[gusty zenith]

Oh ok

[deft vessel]

Eat auric soul

[mighty zenith]

not eat

specifically not eat

[deft vessel]

Yes eat

[gusty zenith]

auric is the dragon stuff isn't it

[cloud ibex]

i do wonder how close this guess is though

[split mortar]

Yeah

[gusty zenith]

so yharon would have one?

[mighty zenith]

yep

[split mortar]

So is aerialite somehow

[split mortar]

Yes

[gusty zenith]

right got it

[split mortar]

The last auric dragon is yharon

[gusty zenith]

Ah

[cloud ibex]

something something the dragons were so afraid of the future they didn't even allow for their home to feel the passage of time

[split mortar]

Other not auric dragons exist tho

[earnest sluice]

is sunken sea overhaul p1 and p2 the same thing

or will it be 2 seperate updates

[limpid saddle]

2 different updates

[split mortar]

Well thats why its called part 2

[deft vessel]

Why else would there be two parts

[limpid saddle]

thats why it's 'parts'

[split mortar]

Also wrong channel

[earnest sluice]

oh

i wasnt looking

oops

[split mortar]

Lol

[cloud ibex]

eternally stuck in the past, like how the dragons (and by extension now, yharim and yharon) were stuck in the past until Xeroc finally broke the world out of stasis by ascending and being the first one to even make a dent in the place

[limpid saddle]

thats great dude

but yharim is more very nostalgic for a time he didnt live in

[manic coral]

eeeexactly

[mighty zenith]

ding ding ding

[cloud ibex]

i'm too fucking cracked

[mighty zenith]

leon is actually yharim calamity mod

[cloud ibex]

i must have amnesia cause i almost forgot I'M HIM

💪

[manic coral]

i mean we've got people right now nostalgic for times they didn't live through

one very unfortunate time in particular recently that's sadly relevant to all of this conversation

[limpid saddle]

Yeah he's like most of conservative america

[gusty zenith]

[limpid saddle]

He's heard of this ideal period of time where everything was perfect & says 'But I want to live in that'

[deft vessel]

DIY

[split mortar]

So the rock is like

The most durable thing the terrarian canonically gets so far

And possibly ever

[manic coral]

yes

so basically beat boss rush 500 times and make Aerie Rock Armor

[split mortar]

Ask xeroc for aerie rock armour

[split mortar]

LMAO

[deft vessel]

Or just throw it really hard

[split mortar]

We should be able to beat yharim to death with the rock

[limpid saddle]

we're gonna have xeroc welding the aerie for the rest of time

[gritty kraken]

New endgame rogue weapon just dropped

[manic coral]

but also the aerie being ungodly durable helps for another reason too

man it'd feel stupid if yharim's attacks hit normal ground and had minimal impact this is supposed to be the dud who can cleave small mountains in half via brute strength

[split mortar]

The true post game shadowspec armour

[manic coral]

without, like

a REALLY good reason

so i made a REALLY good reason it doesn't happen

[mighty zenith]

i like the idea of xeroc taking a little pebble off the aerie every time you beat the boss rush

[manic coral]

like imagine if your arena got atomized every time he did a downwards swing that'd fucking suck

[limpid saddle]

are you gonna tell us the reason or are we gonna have to wait until the pre-fight Yharim monolouge explains it in 10 fargo years

[manic coral]

i mean there's sorta hints already