#lore-discussion

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clear girder
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Why is it green

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queen bees are yellow

late veldt
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plague

indigo glade
clear girder
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ok

split mortar
spring helm
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💥

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(affectionately)

amber cedar
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sogorprperpre

dusk laurel
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wtfrick

amber cedar
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i hav im[proved at alchemy my homunculus is bigger nad bvetter now

dusk laurel
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ancient lore user appearance

amber cedar
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i fought the necromancer for his jewels and put them inb my homunculus now he shines and screams forevermore

frosty linden
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What happened to Providence's corpse when we killed it? Did we really turn a goddess into some materials, cause it sounds like yharim couldn't use all of silva and threw her into the abyss.

indigo glade
random mulch
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even though there's not many actual dates i still wanna make a rudimentary timeline with what is known

random mulch
patent tiger
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do we know yharim's name from anywhere except devs?

mighty zenith
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bestiary entries, npc dialogue

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the lore whispers arent the only source of lore

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and also of course draetalk

indigo glade
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Literally every other piece of lore.

patent tiger
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ok

limpid saddle
limpid saddle
patent tiger
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nope

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not for now at least

mighty zenith
thick slate
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COKE

indigo glade
dusk laurel
mighty zenith
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maybe youre just seeing the period and thinking of it as condescending idk

indigo glade
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Coke? More like Woke.

dusk laurel
indigo glade
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Can you believe it?

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Calamity Mod is woke...

dusk laurel
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Now we have to boycott it...

indigo glade
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You fight homophobes.

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Twice.

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That is so woke...

thick slate
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mreow

mighty zenith
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mrrrrrp

dusk laurel
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merrow

atomic haven
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Draedon mentioning offhand that he could fix the sulphurous sea but doesn't didn't sit right with me, until I realized that it has developed a totally unique ecosystem and he probably noticed that as well, and is studying it

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since his long-term goal is space exploration, and space is very radioactive, having an environment at home where he can study the effects of radiation on living ecosystems in real time is valuable

zenith geode
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but how does this explain there being like 40 of em

atomic haven
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He's also looking into wireless teleportation instead of magic mirrors because those rely on a place you consider home, and the lunar surface is probably an evil biome due to the moon lord having been there for thousands of years messing with the feng shui
Also for a robot, 'home' might mean something else. Magic mirrors might rely on an emotional component he lacks

zenith geode
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the radiation that is in space will fucking shred everything

atomic haven
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true, but that just means having an extreme example is good for establishing an upper bound

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i.e. if even extreme rads can still have thriving life then space probably can as well

zenith geode
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unless you have several hundred meters of lead, there's no way to protect against solar flares and gamma ray bursts for effectively 100% of creatures

atomic haven
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exactly, hence the super radioactive environment

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imagine reverse engineering a nuclear toad's metabolism for a biogenic shield

zenith geode
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only problem is that i don't think we even know what gamma ray bursts do to planets

atomic haven
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thin membrane of genetically engineered material digesting all the solar flares coming your way

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I mean a GRB strips off the atmosphere

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realistically there's no way to defend against one inside a ship

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Maybe he's planning on moving the moon closer now that its lord is dead and use it to eclipse the burst over the continent with a planetary engine if one is detected by advance teleporter probes

indigo glade
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Why are we talking about radiation in space? Stars don't behave like IRL ones.

indigo glade
atomic haven
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I said that the moon biome would be evil since it was there

zenith geode
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empress isnt a god i'd say

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right

atomic haven
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people not wanting to live in corrupt houses isn't just mechanics, the citizens feel uneasy constantly

split mortar
indigo glade
atomic haven
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like it's not that they get corrupted the vibes are just severely off

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as they would be on the moon

indigo glade
atomic haven
zenith geode
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the dungeon technically is livable but npcs dont wanna live there because its a dungeon

atomic haven
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yeah exactly

indigo glade
atomic haven
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you said "suddenly" as though it would be unexpected

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also, yes, the moon lord is evil

indigo glade
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But the moon itself isn't.

atomic haven
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but it lives there. It's a taint by association thing

zenith geode
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moonlord's super evil thoughts permeated the soil

atomic haven
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people go to the moon and think "moon lord used to be here" and they feel like they do in the dungeon

indigo glade
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What?

atomic haven
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what's so hard to understand my guy

zenith geode
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what about people who don't know

indigo glade
zenith geode
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or is the evil so strong that thoughts of moonlord just get projected into their mind

atomic haven
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the moon is the home of the moon lord.
The moon lord is evil
People go to the moon, home of the moon lord.
They feel uneasy

zenith geode
atomic haven
zenith geode
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if you went to the house of a serial killer who was never found, i'd imagine you wouldn't be super comfortable

atomic haven
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"but how does the evil manifest materially and why" that's the point it doesn't

indigo glade
zenith geode
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hell's filled with vengeful spirits too

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npcs are willing to live there

atomic haven
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(sarcasm)

indigo glade
atomic haven
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it's still not reliable enough for draedon

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not to mention, a magic mirror needs you to have been there already

zenith geode
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they buy haunted houses because the houses are cheap and yeah they get offput

indigo glade
atomic haven
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and you can only have one honestly the logistics are probably more damning than the moon vibes

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even if mirrors work to the moon how do you get back

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you need a rocket either way

storm zinc
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Who the hell is ||avatar of emptiness||suppose to be…back to calamity it seems

zenith geode
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big slingshot

storm zinc
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What an update

zenith geode
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super fuckin evil guy from Somewhere Else™️

storm zinc
zenith geode
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gonna be real i got no clue who fovos is

indigo glade
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If people are telling you it is a Calamity boss, you can stop listening to them.

indigo glade
storm zinc
zenith geode
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ah

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moonlord's a husk of fovos i though

indigo glade
atomic haven
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not arguing

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a joke nothing more

zenith geode
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noxus is the guy from basecal's distortion

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avatar of emptiness is from Somewhere Else™️

split mortar
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Fovos and moonlord can both refer to its prime and when its nearly dead

atomic haven
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yeah Fovos was his name before he became lord of the moon (i.e. chained to the moon by the dragons)

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but it's still the same entity

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An unknown devil who emerged from the edge of space and came to earth with the armies of four elemental planets in lunar chariots

gaunt sluice
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aeugh

spice torrent
spice torrent
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ok

atomic haven
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yeah that doesn't explain why the moon is evil

storm zinc
atomic haven
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The pillars would be weirdly disconnected otherwise, I always headcanoned them as his armies or heralds

indigo glade
light linden
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is the moon lord galactus?

zenith geode
atomic haven
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honestly the whole pillar event is a bit nebulous atm because the lore writers seemingly haven't gotten to it yet

storm zinc
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Cultist have some kind of relationship with the abyss it seems?

zenith geode
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magician reference?????

atomic haven
light linden
spice torrent
# zenith geode poor cultist getting ignored

Yeah. It is sort of implied that the Cultist, leader of the Dragon Cult, is trying to keep back ML in Calamity, while in vanilla it seems to want to bring ML to earth. The Cultist can be seen as the last line of defense against Fovos.

zenith geode
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oh no i meant eternity cultist having a pillar dunk

indigo glade
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(Along with many other Vanilla Bestiary Entries)

atomic haven
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should be the Everything Update with the amount of scope creep at this point

gaunt sluice
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lore writers kinda just waiting for stuff to happen rn

split mortar
zenith geode
atomic haven
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sunken sea overhaul, vanilla bestiary overhaul, vanilla lore integration, I think I heard something about an astral infection rework, a bunch of new sprites, some worm boss changes, signus and ravager overhauls...

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yes Seeker I know

dusk laurel
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Astral infection rework is not in SSO

atomic haven
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you don't have to tell me that I'm incorrect

zenith geode
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sunken sea overhaul part 14

indigo glade
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A lot of what you said isn't coming in SSO.

zenith geode
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coming 2037

dusk laurel
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signus and ravager won't be reworked either in SSO

atomic haven
pastel path
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guys is yharim sso

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?

atomic haven
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I was being hyperbolic

dusk laurel
light linden
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the first 3 you said along with the new sprites are sso

atomic haven
dusk laurel
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Nope

zenith geode
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isnt dragon aerie supposedly coming up after sso

dusk laurel
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WotG is an unofficial addon with separate lore

indigo glade
dusk laurel
zenith geode
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where does deerclops call into cal lore

atomic haven
light linden
indigo glade
dusk laurel
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Goozma is also not returning to calamity

zenith geode
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where do biome mimics fall into cal lore

atomic haven
dusk laurel
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it was shot dead before the lore rewrite

zenith geode
dusk laurel
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explodes you with my mind

indigo glade
zenith geode
zenith geode
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but it was on a 2003 camcorder that i sent to my girlfriend but she's in a different country

atomic haven
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no gif perms but that's okay

timid lotus
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guys

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does cthulhu exist

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in calamity universe

pliant ruin
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nop

calm patio
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no

gaunt sluice
drowsy walrus
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okay WOAH

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Someone help me with avatar of emptiness

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Vs noxus

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With the recent rework to wrath of the gods, i thought AOE was a new boss

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Turns out he’s replacing ol nox?

spring helm
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yes

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noxus got replaced to avoid confusion with Calamity's noxus

timid lotus
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wait what

spring helm
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idk how effective it will be tbh since nameless diety still gets called xeroc from time to time, but one can hope

timid lotus
spring helm
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moon lord

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but like before he got cut in half by the dragons

timid lotus
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that doesnt add up tho

magic epoch
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wdym

spring helm
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so about 800 years before the game starts Moon Lord (a.k.a. Fovos) invaded Terraria and got jumped by every Auric Dragon

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and he almost won

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so they sealed him into the moon

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and now he's called Moon Lord

timid lotus
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alr but with demonshade you have the power similar to the dragons

magic epoch
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iwdont believe demonshade is canon

timid lotus
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and with it you destroy moon lord in .00001 second

spring helm
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the dragons were about as strong as the eidolon wyrms now

magic epoch
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current moon lord is incredibly weaker than fovos' peak

spring helm
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keep in mind that's only average and there were those way stronger and way weaker than average

light linden
spring helm
light linden
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how it is currently isn't canon

timid lotus
spring helm
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you demolish the half dead Moon Lord

light linden
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but after it gets reworked it will be canon

timid lotus
spring helm
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the Moon Lord that invaded Terraria 800 years ago is like stronger than Noxus

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which is why he was able to run the hands with every auric dragon and not die

magic epoch
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the unfathomable xeroc

timid lotus
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so xeroc is stronger than zeatros

light linden
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yes

spring helm
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please do not use the Terrarian/Player Character as a measure of strength, they are a freak of nature and an extreme outlier

timid lotus
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they're canon tho

light linden
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counterpoint

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it's funny

magic epoch
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esPECIALLY item descriptions

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no, atom splitter does not split atoms.....

spring helm
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i think Yharim's stronger too

timid lotus
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hm

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is xeroc stronger than noxus tho

magic epoch
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yes

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xeroc is the strongest in calamity lore iirc

timid lotus
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mmm

dusk laurel
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We are funny

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because we are the terrarian

magic epoch
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we are the terrarian...?

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does that mean....

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that the terrarian is us?

spring helm
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no...

magic epoch
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"us" includes everyone....

light linden
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do not

magic epoch
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so...
the terrarian is

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Oh okau

light linden
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DO NOT

magic epoch
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I wont

dusk laurel
light linden
magic epoch
timid lotus
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chat in how many years do you guys think they will add xeroc

gaunt sluice
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xeroc gonna be added in 2052

magic epoch
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15 to -0

spring helm
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if the scope creep doesnt happen again and the dev team does good time, i'm thinking Yharim will drop in like 5 years

drowsy walrus
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Wait, hold on, I’m low-key kind of sad,

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Did they remove the old ||“Entropic God- Noxus” fight?||

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I never got to fight him LOL

minor moon
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Spoilers

neat tinsel
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if you want some noxus-punching action, I suggest wrath of the gods

sinful adder
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People on YouTube called a different mod calamity for views

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The idea of noxus does come from calamity, but the one that exists in that other mod is completely different

drowsy walrus
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No no, I’m well aware that it was part of the mod called wrath of the gods lol

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But I was playing base calamity with that add-on and I was just about to fight (him) and he got replaced lol

minor moon
minor moon
neat tinsel
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oh

timid lotus
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yo

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they removed noxus from WotG

sinful adder
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Not our problem

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Not a calamity thing

jaunty gulch
drowsy walrus
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I mean, yes, but they removed the old fight

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I was trying to see if anybody had an old edition of the mod

hushed dagger
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if Xeroc is the god of light, wtf kinda god is Noxus? Distortion? Entropy? Darkness?

real silo
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Not a god

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Nobody knows what noxus is

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What is confirmed is that noxus is not a god

hushed dagger
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oh right...i read from somewhere that cthulhu made noxus

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is that official?

real silo
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uhh old lore

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Cthulhu doesn't actually exist

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In cal

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I don't remember why but there's a reason for that

hushed dagger
real silo
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yes

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Moon lord is not cthulhu

hushed dagger
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lit

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i'm very interested in the gods and the dragons

real silo
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Good !

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now make your own god oc

hushed dagger
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how does God of Shrimps sound

real silo
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What about the dragon

hushed dagger
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there were no dragons, they just absorbed a shrimp

real silo
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Based

minor moon
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Shrimp of dragons!

real silo
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Crablante but with shrimp

sinful adder
timid lotus
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wait in vanilla lore, is cthulhu the one who gets sealed to the moon

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and since moon lord pretty much replaces him

real silo
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Dunno

spring helm
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Lore reason why scoria is just hellstone but better?

minor moon
hushed dagger
hushed dagger
spring helm
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Interesting theory though, I like it

hushed dagger
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holy. ||is noxus secretly absorbing whatever god essence DoG eats?||

hoary cape
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🤷

hushed dagger
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my bad gang

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i was shocked

limpid saddle
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If you're here

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You are here to talk about lore

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That is lore

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Very important lore

limpid saddle
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Noxus's motivations are unknown, & we don't even really know if there is a deeper motivation than the expansion & development of The Distortion

pulsar ocean
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is noxus canon to cal lore

split mortar
pulsar ocean
mighty zenith
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but people will still call it noxus for like a few months probably

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killing mura with hammers

pulsar ocean
split mortar
# pulsar ocean where can i see the fresh and new take on noxus

Noxus is the most unknown being in calamity lore iirc we only know for certain 2 things

Created the portal known as ceaseless void
The boss of the devourer of gods
The mere thought of this thing spooks yharim
Above yharim in power

For unsure things
Controls the hive mind in the distortion
Collecting god essence for whatever reason through DoG

We dont even know what it looks like

mighty zenith
pulsar ocean
mighty zenith
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exactly
excluding xeroc

pulsar ocean
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but hes never reaching that height

mighty zenith
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well thats not gonna stop him from trying

split mortar
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We dunno what its using the god essence for maybe it has a plan for it

Also what garbo said

mighty zenith
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but yeah it could use it for something else than just getting stronger, we just dunno

split mortar
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To make a second noxus clueless

mighty zenith
hoary berry
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what if noxus is just playing a factory game

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send out dog to get divine essence

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built more dogs from divine essence

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get more divine essence

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exponential growth

split mortar
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Noxus playing factorio

split mortar
mighty zenith
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distortio

hoary berry
cloud ibex
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There’s a limited amount of resources in factorio too but that hasn’t stopped anyone

pulsar ocean
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how is xerox so strng

gritty kraken
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Yes

split mortar
strong cairn
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who made yharim

split mortar
silver phoenix
dusk laurel
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No

silver phoenix
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ah

split mortar
silver phoenix
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he isnt? all i know is that he wants to fight

split mortar
silver phoenix
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oh, then I suppose Yharim kinda made himself? im kinda going off yharon's lore piece

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being saved by yharon basically made him an new person

split mortar
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New name and all

silver phoenix
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So he is an isn't human, reborn into power by an auric soul?

split mortar
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He is a human
The only thing that differentiates him from a normal person is that he is attuned to yharon which afaik only lets him touch raw auric without getting rejected

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He just literally took a new identity and killed everyone who knew him before then

limpid saddle
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I get he obviously killed the cultists & god they served under that hucked him into the lava pits but

split mortar
limpid saddle
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Theres no way that's everyone he knew pre-melting

silver phoenix
split mortar
split mortar
limpid saddle
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But uh generally Melon's right

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Yharim is just a guy

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A very strong guy in very strong armor with very strong weapons & very strong allies (at least until he burned literally all of his bridges)

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But he is ultimately

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Just a guy

silver phoenix
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question, is it intended that he be fought before or after the boss rush? (pending update)

split mortar
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Probably before

limpid saddle
split mortar
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Simce he likely will be in boss rush

silver phoenix
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kewl

limpid saddle
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Anyway you guys see that new WOTG update drop?

mighty zenith
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xeroc recreating yharim sounds really funny

limpid saddle
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wooh, crazy shit

mighty zenith
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"challenge me bitch traitor!"
no fuck you go fight yourself lmao

split mortar
dusk laurel
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I'm tired of seeing WotG everywhere already

limpid saddle
mighty zenith
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please leave it in addon talk

dusk laurel
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Addon talk and spoiler it

mighty zenith
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tbh addon talk is a minefield currently

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too many people and too many that dont know how to spoiler things

dusk laurel
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CST is gonna be packed by WotG players 💔

hoary berry
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For the foreseeable future

split mortar
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Same

limpid saddle
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Alright calm down

hoary berry
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So hopefully I can just forget that it exists

mighty zenith
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until i beat nameless im leaving it muted

limpid saddle
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I just couldn't think of anything else to talk about

split mortar
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And i gotta wait a bit cause pc upgrades first

hoary berry
limpid saddle
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Guess i'll go back to playing Splatoon

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bye bye lore chat

mighty zenith
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fortunately im not gonna be doing it on infernum this time so that i can have fun

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i havent played expert rev in a whiiile

hoary berry
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Same actually

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First expert rev playthrough since 2023 i think

mighty zenith
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same

hoary berry
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Recently it’s just been masodeath or infernum for me because I’m an addict

dusk laurel
split mortar
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e

hoary berry
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eign of e

mighty zenith
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they dont suck actually im just bad

dusk laurel
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I think inf exos are one of the better ones

hoary berry
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I haven’t fought inf exos in several months

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But I do really enjoy them

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Thana solo is probably my least favourite part?

mighty zenith
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i enjoyed yharon way more honestly

hoary berry
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YES

mighty zenith
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i just HATE ares

split mortar
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I beat exos in the same range of attempts as yharon, providence and polter

hoary berry
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inf yharon my goat

split mortar
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20-30

mighty zenith
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ares solo is the worst part of the fight

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for me

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i ALWAYS fuck up the phaseslayers

split mortar
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I did thana and ana

hoary berry
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Ares solo is kind of notorious yeah

split mortar
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So i uh
Did ares solo

hoary berry
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My first combo was A&A + Ares which is pretty easy imo

mighty zenith
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twins solo boils down to "die in the first 5 seconds or beat them effortlessly"

hoary berry
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So I got eased into it

mighty zenith
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20% of my deaths have been either to ares or twins as last mech

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partially cause stress and partially cause theyre tough

hoary berry
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I think the twins + ares combo phase is pretty easy specifically

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As long as I remember to keep track of Apollo’s rockets during blender

mighty zenith
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yeah it is

gritty kraken
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Chat is aureus Ares legs

mighty zenith
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no

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altho it would look really funny

real silo
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Imo thana ares is the easiest

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Twins solo is harder than thana solo (but easier than ares solo) but the combo is way easier

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Also thana desperation is the easiest out of all 3

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Purely because you can melt him

timid lotus
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guys

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is fovos (moon lord with legs) stronger than current xeroc

mighty zenith
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no

timid lotus
timid lotus
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(when he had legs)

mighty zenith
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current xeroc is also at his peak so nope

hoary berry
timid lotus
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huh

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i found thanatos + twins easier

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cuz dragon rage

mighty zenith
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the issue is solo ares

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which is a nightmare

timid lotus
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dragon pow can melt him

hoary berry
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I really need to refight them soon

timid lotus
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depends on what special he uses

hoary berry
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To refresh my brain on all of the combos and orders

mighty zenith
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tbh melee in general just butchers exos so that makes sense

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i played rogue

timid lotus
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wouldn't seraphim be good for ares

split mortar
# timid lotus not even at his peak?

Xeroc is hyper built for 1v1s
Moonlord is hyper built for tank and fighting hordes of weaker beings

Even if they were equal xeroc is just the better one for the matchup

pliant ruin
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ml with legs is like the 2nd strongest character and the only one who could have the slightest chance against xeroc afaik

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but its like

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80 vs 20

real silo
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mostly because seraphim lags sometimes

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Even with stealth

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I beat them using seared pan, wrathwing and final dawn

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Anyways I think it's a cool coincidence that both infernum apollo and infernum scal uses bombs as attacks

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Given apollo's fire was based off of scal's fire

unique glade
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Not entirely lore related but I downloaded the Yharim YOMI Hustle mod

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and now I'm wondering

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just how strong is Yharim?

split mortar
unique glade
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I'm not big on powerscaling, but I'm curious as to whereabouts he exists
cus in my head he's just shy of a Kirby tier entity

split mortar
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Storm weaver is low city so i see it as yharim being high city to low mountain though we have no good scaling for anything but storm weaver for post ml

unique glade
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I fully believed Yharim was like Galaxy

gritty kraken
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They said yharim punch would feel like a nuke or something

gritty kraken
split mortar
unique glade
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in my head anything post-ML is a planetary threat

slow basalt
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Why isnt shadowspec considered canon

split mortar
slow basalt
gritty kraken
unique glade
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because Yharim's whole thing is he's hunting down and killing gods
is Calamity's cosmology just kinda less insane than I thought?

split mortar
gritty kraken
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Thing capped at planetary I think

split mortar
unique glade
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Honestly? Kinda like that, actually.

slow basalt
split mortar
unique glade
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that tracks actually

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Ceaseless Void desperation phase is wiping out Minnesota at best

manic coral
unique glade
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good point

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she's workin' on it

slow basalt
manic coral
#

no

split mortar
slow basalt
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O mb

split mortar
#

Never was even in old lore

manic coral
#

also hello i am very sick right now

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currently running a 100.7f fever

split mortar
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Dog
Providence
Moonlord
Storm weaver
Yharon
Yharim

If any of these fucks could end a continent overnight they would have already many times already

split mortar
unique glade
#

Draedon could probably make a machine out of a whole planet, but it'd be a decades, if not centuries-long process

wheat walrus
manic coral
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not like, going to the hospital bad, but it is "i slept eleven and a half hours last night" bad

wheat walrus
dusk laurel
#

mrrow

manic coral
indigo glade
#

No.

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I'm not like that...

dusk laurel
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Liar.

split mortar
dusk laurel
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a pot

split mortar
indigo glade
split mortar
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Liar

indigo glade
dusk laurel
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😭

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this is so out of context lmao

split mortar
indigo glade
#

Well, clearly it was understood.

split mortar
#

@pliant ruin can you kill stupid bug in roy

limpid saddle
unique glade
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well yeah

dusk laurel
#

Eggman can piss on the moon
Draedon can skin the moon

split mortar
#

Eggmans superior

dusk laurel
#

See people, there's a difference

unique glade
#

Eggman has turned an entire solar system into an amusement park

random mulch
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if draedon wanted to he could probably just create the grey goo and rip apart the whole planet in a week

limpid saddle
#

I was mostly referring to Little Planet & the events of Sonic CD

random mulch
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but that wouldnt have much of a point

unique glade
#

Draedon probably could do the same, but it'd take him way longer

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for Eggman it was a weekend project

random mulch
#

draedon already knows how to create nanomachines so the goo would probably not too hard to make

limpid saddle
#

You guys think Eggman would be more impressed at Dreadon's development of infinite energy in form of the Exo Prisms or Dreadon would be more impressed at Eggman's bullshit escapades like the solar-system sized amusement park & his small blue robot that can exceed the sound barrier

unique glade
#

I think he'd be very interested in Metal Sonic

random mulch
#

infinite energy is a pretty big deal

random mulch
#

gray goo is a concept of nanomachines that break down material and use them to create more of themselves

limpid saddle
unique glade
#

Draedon probably wouldn't like Eggman very much, and Eggman probably wouldn't like Dreadon very much, but they'd absolutely have mutual respect for each other

random mulch
#

causing their numbers to grow at an exponential rate

unique glade
#

Draedon immediately asks if Metal can fight the Exo Mechs

gritty kraken
#

I like the part where I got to eat a galaxy in tasty planet with grey goo

random mulch
#

ok but hear me out:

#

exo prism powered Metal

limpid saddle
#

Immideatly beats Metal Overlord ngl

unique glade
#

Bad things would happen

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Somehow I think Sonic and Yharim would be chill with each other

limpid saddle
#

Sonic pulls up & starts harnessing the exo prisms like the chaos emeralds & they converge into a mecha

unique glade
#

Sonic would be understandably pissed at Yharim's past actions but his whole deal is giving people a chance to change

limpid saddle
unique glade
#

true

random mulch
#

yharim doesnt feel like he needs a chance to change

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cause he already thinks he did the right thing

split mortar
#

Yharim doesnt see what he did as bad

unique glade
#

damn
from reading the lore items I kinda got the feeling that he wasn't overwhelmingly proud of his actions

limpid saddle
#

Sonic would drop some Black Knight-ass speech on Yharim & punch him into the sun

split mortar
#

-# child soldiers, so many fucking war crims holy shit, genocide, racism, polterghast incident, skeletron primes existence

unique glade
#

why does a Sonic Calamity crossover sound so hype actually

limpid saddle
split mortar
random mulch
#

boiling an entire civilization alive

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0 regrets from that

unique glade
#

I definitely took the lore items at face value
I didn't account for Yharim being an unreliable narrator

limpid saddle
#

Somebody needs to get on that

unique glade
split mortar
#

He doesnt regret burning children and families alive

He regrets hurting scal during that

random mulch
#

he is the least reliable narrator probably apart from DoG if he every actually had a conversation with you

#

bur he's kinda one of our only frames of reference right now

limpid saddle
#

Yharim & Permafrost could've been great gay dads for Calamitas if he ever dropped the genocide thing

limpid saddle
unique glade
#

I honestly thought Yharim wasn't a completely bad dude bc he at least seemed to have empathy for the dragons

random mulch
#

the dragons are one of the only things yharim has sympathy for

split mortar
#

^

#

he is a horrible genocidal racist maniac
But he is human

random mulch
#

he generally really cares about nature

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doesnt want to force people to go against their will

unique glade
#

yeah that tracks

wheat walrus
limpid saddle
#

He's like an extreme eco-terrorist druid

unique glade
#

the biggest pointer I got for that was the Plaguebringer Goliath and the Queen Bee lore items

limpid saddle
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But he only turns into a bear metaphorically rather than literally

wheat walrus
random mulch
#

also if you worship a "sinner" you're just as bad

limpid saddle
#

he really likes bees

unique glade
#

real

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he was glazing the queen bee to no end

limpid saddle
#

It's a shame that the Plauge Nanovirus is so fucked up because it's also really cool as a concept

random mulch
#

something can both be fucked up and really cool

limpid saddle
dusk laurel
#

prepare to cry

limpid saddle
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I cant wait for us to get that tiny little expansion on it with the potential sub-biome in 15 fargos years

mighty zenith
random mulch
#

plague biome is only a maybe

mighty zenith
#

you're gonna die

#

either from his armies or collateral damage after the city is fucking destroyed

limpid saddle
unique glade
#

honestly I want more Abyss stuff

#

any setting with a huge nefarious hole is something I fw immensely

limpid saddle
mighty zenith
#

:(

dusk laurel
limpid saddle
random mulch
#

sentenced to the brick

dusk laurel
#

Collect my pages

gritty kraken
#

Dubious platings

minor moon
tepid timber
#

Did yharim ever have a mustache?

mighty zenith
#

perchance

split mortar
#

Uh
Maybe

#

We dunno

tepid timber
#

That’s good

split mortar
#

We wont know whats below his armour

gritty kraken
#

skeleton

split mortar
mighty zenith
#

corpse01.mdl

patent rover
#

his skin was severely burnt, right? i don't think burnt skin can grow hair

sleek halo
random mulch
#

honestly i think it's just mainly layer 4 that needs some new stuff

mighty zenith
#

yeah layer 4 is neat but... so empty

indigo glade
mighty zenith
#

i guess thats the point but

random mulch
#

and maybe making the chests not just be randomly strewn about

mighty zenith
#

there could be something there

dusk laurel
#

I just want the Black Anurians, Reaper Shark revamp, and Eidolon Wyrm revamp

mighty zenith
#

i still want visible silva corpse 🙏

#

it would be so awesoe

dusk laurel
#

TRUE

random mulch
#

imagine huge lumenyl crystals on the ledges

mighty zenith
#

it would be so cool

dusk laurel
#

Cei please lobby for us

sleek halo
tepid timber
mighty zenith
#

cei died due to 100.7 celsius fever

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unfortunate!

sleek halo
#

damn...

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:c

limpid saddle
random mulch
#

i hope the abyss gets a more "proper" background in the future

manic coral
mighty zenith
#

youre not dead!!

limpid saddle
random mulch
#

rn it feels more like a hole than a crevice

manic coral
#

no but i feel like i will if i walk around too much

mighty zenith
deft vessel
#

Then dont walk

manic coral
#

counterpoint: food, medicine, and water

split mortar
random mulch
#

put a chair in the kitchen to minimize walking clueless

dusk laurel
#

I don't think we have functioning people populating this place

random mulch
#

not very surprising

limpid saddle
#

Im like 70%

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I just have many medical conditions

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& carry on despite them

split mortar
random mulch
#

you what

limpid saddle
deft vessel
split mortar
dusky mantle
#

Hello guys

limpid saddle
#

Hello

fast wadi
limpid saddle
#

You've come in at a weird time

random mulch
#

i have a problem with biting myself

dusky mantle
#

Whats the lore of devour of gods again?

#

I forgot

dusk laurel
deft vessel
#

Evil Melon spawned

split mortar
dusky mantle
split mortar
#

Dont think i rember enough that another person would do better

deft vessel
random mulch
#

melon gun commited mitosis

limpid saddle
split mortar
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And lies a lot

split mortar
#

-# also immune to god essence which is a tad odd iirc

mighty zenith
#

what the fuck melon gun 2

split mortar
split mortar
dusky mantle
limpid saddle
#

I do not get why so many people do that iirc thing

mighty zenith
#

i do it cause my memory is dogshit

dusky mantle
fast wadi
mighty zenith
#

and i dont like spreading misinformation

unique glade
#

is there a list of gods DoG has actually eaten or do they not matter bc they've already been eaten

dusky mantle
split mortar
mighty zenith
#

most of those gods werent important

unique glade
#

damn no wonder he's such a big guy

fast wadi
dusky mantle
mighty zenith
unique glade
#

does that not mean that DoG by proxy has like, dragon souls in him

dusky mantle
mighty zenith
#

and tyrian's whereabouts are unknown

gritty kraken
#

Boiled even

split mortar
fast wadi
#

Who is otonilou and tyrian

dusky mantle
unique glade
#

huh

split mortar
mighty zenith
#

gods dont have auric souls themselves

unique glade
#

Oh fair enough

gritty kraken
split mortar
mighty zenith
#

it was always sunken actually

#

just

there was more of it

#

a lot more of it

gritty kraken
#

anglerfish guy with cannon arm go hard

mighty zenith
#

tru

#

reminds me of ripjaws

#

though he didnt have a cannon arm

gritty kraken
deft vessel
#

Possibly

mighty zenith
#

(ripjaws as in the anglerfish alien from ben 10)

gritty kraken
#

Ohyeah
That’s the guy

plucky lichen
#

Holy fuck lemon gun

timid lotus
#

guys

#

is peak yharim stronger than peak fovoz?

tepid timber
#

I don’t think so

dusk laurel
cosmic zenith
#

Nope

tepid timber
#

Fovos took on multiple dragons at once and fucked them up pretty good

#

I think he takes it

pulsar ocean
#

is yharim behind his armor just an 8 foot dude

dusky mantle
#

Hello chat

limpid saddle
#

I mean he's a really strong dude

#

Like peak physical form

#

But he's just a dude

pulsar ocean
spice torrent
random mulch
limpid saddle
dusk laurel
#

Yharim isn't that normal

#

And he certainly isn't just a dude

random mulch
#

imagine if your grandpa was 8 feet tall, 130 years old and could blow open a metal wall in a single hit

random mulch
#

archaic name for moon lord

pliant sorrel
#

ohhh

spice torrent
#

yep. More accurately, Moon Lord at his full power before getting banished to the moon.

random mulch
#

psychic damage every time someone says that

split mortar
#

Its a name given before they got sealed yeah

But they both refer to the same thing

The being from space that dropkicked the local zoo

limpid saddle
#

Yeah Fovos is just his name

#

Moon Lord is a title

split mortar
limpid saddle
#

Because he was

#

sealed in the moon

#

For like 200 years

#

Probably more

split mortar
limpid saddle
split mortar
limpid saddle
#

So he evaded capture for 600 years

dusk laurel
limpid saddle
#

& then... failed at doing that?

dusk laurel
#

It doesn't have a name

#

Fovos is also basically just a given title

#

it means terror iirc

#

It just sounds like a name, since uh, Greek

limpid saddle
#

It's not like the Dragon Hunts were exactly an organized effort, from all the ascensions we know of it seemed moreso to be power-hungry independant glory seekers that went out into the world in small groups at most seeking out the Dragons

spring helm
#

a lot of them were also dying or severely injured after the moon lord incident

dusk laurel
#

He has immense control over his soul and can transport it really quickly to the Aerie

#

and the Aerie is pretty hard to find

spare pier
#

Turns out absorbing the Soul of the guy who can literally fast travel to the Aerie after being killed is really hard

split mortar
#

Whoda thunk

wheat walrus
#

also

#

do consider that Yharon was the second strongest auric dragon ever

spare pier
#

Yeah

wheat walrus
#

the first one was done in by Moonlord at its prime

limpid saddle
#

Wait so he didnt evade capture or anything he just kept getting murdered every 10 years?

spare pier
#

He obviously evaded hunters for a long time, it's just that if he was killed, he could just go there

#

To absorb Yharon's Soul you need to get his egg, which is always in the Aerie

#

And entering the Aerie is not easy

wheat walrus
#

that and also how there's very little that could kill Yharon itself tbh

#

even assuming that Yharon was weaker than today

spare pier
#

With time interest in him also kinda just vanished

wheat walrus
#

it'd be either DoG or some of the most powerful already gods

#

excluding Yharim, SCal and Exos for obvious reasons

hybrid barn
#

Admittedly a little funny to imagine, all these dragon hunters and otherworldly beasts fighting tooth and nail against him at the risk and often loss of their own lives, then when someone finally does him in, his soul just peaces out and they have to do it again later

limpid saddle
#

There has to have been at least one really petty guy that persued Yharon for the eintierty of his natural life-span & jumped on his hat like a cartoon villain each time he got away

spare pier
#

Like, the main reason so many people wanted to become a God early is because at the time it was fairly easy. There were weaker Dragons and many were wounded

#

When Yharon became the last one and as Gods became more secretive of how to do the ritual, the list of requirements just kept growing

#

You needed to know the ritual, find him and be strong enough to beat him (likely on your own, as any band of adventurers would probably tear each other apart over who'd become a God), and then somehow find your way to the Aerie in the next 10 years

limpid saddle
#

Oh hey

#

Speaking of

spare pier
#

And most Gods had no interest in him either, since there were significant drawbacks to having two Auric Souls

limpid saddle
#

Could any God turn their compatriots in the hunt into their Paladins like Providence did to the Guardians?

#

& also are the Guardians sentient at all?

spare pier
#

They were literally people HDfailure

#

They just don't talk to you, same as Providence

limpid saddle
split mortar
spare pier
limpid saddle
#

Especially given one of them might've just been against genocide pre-lobotomy

split mortar
limpid saddle
#

Yeah presumably a transition like that is smoothed over by the ritual & the auric soul

spare pier
limpid saddle
#

Providence basically raw-dogged it

limpid saddle
limpid saddle
light linden
spare pier
#

Yeah, shoot

light linden
#

do the plants at lower levels not need sunlight?

spare pier
#

Do they get sunlight?

indigo glade
light linden
#

I mean

#

idk

dusk laurel
light linden
#

in the 2d plane of the game no

spare pier
#

The answer is they don't, they are undeground HDfailure

#

So no

light linden
#

but idk if in a 3d plane there'd be a massive hole in the roof that they get their light from

dusk laurel
#

Literally the pre1.4 Desert

split mortar
#

We dont see that

split mortar
spare pier
#

I kinda liked the Desert pit ngl

split mortar
#

Would be nice if there was a chance it could still appear

dusk laurel
#

In vanilla?

split mortar
dusk laurel
#

I don't think it would work in Cal

#

lore wise

light linden
spare pier
#

Just say it was dug by Antlions

dusk laurel
limpid saddle
#

Calamitas had to dig a big hole to get into position

light linden
#

actually this reminds me

dusk laurel
light linden
#

rebecca do you know if we'll ever be getting corrupted, crimsoned, or hallowed versions of calamity biomes?

limpid saddle
light linden
#

I'd love to see a hallowed sunken sea personally

spare pier
#

Probably no because there is like

light linden
#

lots of crystals everywhere already

spare pier
#

Sunken Sea (we aren't adding more shit there)

#

Crags (there isn't Corrupted Hell so why)

#

Abyss which would never happen

light linden
#

what about the plague jungle?

spare pier
#

And Astral Infection

#

The only one I could see is maybe Sulphurous Sea

light linden
dusk laurel
#

Don't forget the new biomes that are planned too

hybrid barn
#

Oh god, crimson suphurous sea...

light linden
#

I do not wanna imagine that smell

dusk laurel
dusk laurel
light linden
#

would a hallowed sulphurous sea be better or worse to live in?

limpid saddle
#

Yeah Plauge sub-biome is up in there as is

#

also do you guys think there's a lore reason Dreadon has never given any of his creations legs

dusk laurel
#

What?

#

Aureus is right there

light linden
#

sure everythings all fairy tales and pretty but uh

light linden
#

now the nuclear weapons can teleport

limpid saddle
dusk laurel
hybrid barn
dusk laurel
#

I think you got the wrong biome

#

there is nothing nuclear in the Sunken Sea

#

that's the sulphurous sea

limpid saddle
light linden
#

oh wait

#

crap I meant sulphurous sea

hybrid barn
dusk laurel
#

Supercharged Nuclear Terror

limpid saddle
#

He didnt design himself

#

Well, as far as we know anyway

dusk laurel
#

That's a recon drone

limpid saddle
#

Point being

light linden
#

I do think that a hallowed sunken sea would either be blinding or a bunch of gemstones

limpid saddle
#

AI dreadon

dusk laurel
#

recon drones are his creations

limpid saddle
#

Seems to hate bi-pedal beings & prefers to slap thrusters on everything instead

cloud ibex
#

i'd wager a guess he's not using the same body now as he used 600 years ago

dusk laurel
#

it merely speaks through them

light linden
#

do wonder what would happen to sea prisms if affected

limpid saddle
deft vessel
#

Who would win a boxing match: John Wulfrum or Draedon?

dusk laurel
#

I think they'd just talk it out

light linden
deft vessel
#

No, they must box

dusk laurel
#

No

deft vessel
#

Yes

dusk laurel
#

I demand a recount

deft vessel
#

Not available

dusk laurel
#

I'm gonna start protesting

deft vessel
#

Let them fight

split mortar
dusk laurel
#

Exis

split mortar
#

Thiugh bipedal yeah only recon drine

dusk laurel
#

Thiugh bipedal yeah only recon drine

deft vessel
limpid saddle
#

sentanced

snow mountain
#

where did they go

split mortar
#

Rotted away after 800 years

snow mountain
#

chest

#

clearly

robust osprey
timid lotus
#

so yharon tps to the aerie whenever he dies?

split mortar
#

Their soul does

timid lotus
#

huh

#

dont you get yharon soul fragments

#

and you eat them

split mortar
split mortar
#

The majority is still there

#

Like a big majority

timid lotus
#

oh k

cloud ibex
#

you get tiny shavings off of his soul

#

that's it

timid lotus
#

u still eat a dragon fruit containing soul fragments

#

so ur lke 1% god

#

hehe

split mortar
#

You aint

cloud ibex
#

yea but just eating something made with the fragments is different from doing the ritual

#

in part because you don't know the ritual

#

and there's nobody left alive who would ever tell you

timid lotus
#

so you just cant, even when they add the aerie

split mortar
#

Yeah

timid lotus
#

are there any souls left other than yharon's

split mortar
#

No