lore-discussion

[manic coral]

they are actually narratively treated as characters who could blow up the fucking planet

[sleek halo]

Scared

of Goku

[mighty zenith]

lmao

[sleek halo]

using the Kamehameha

facing the planet

like he was like “Holy shit bro chill”

[manic coral]

YEAH

even cell wasn't wanting to go THAT far (yet)

[sleek halo]

Yeah

Btw Goku not killing cell right there

was so horrible

[spring helm]

It’s the entire reason why the instant transmission kamehameha even worked as a bluff

[manic coral]

yeah

[manic coral]

eh

i think it's fine

[sleek halo]

because of how his regeneration was explained

[spring helm]

Cell had is guard down because “no fucking way goku blows up the earth”

[sleek halo]

so poorly

[manic coral]

i do like how DBZA treats it

[sleek halo]

like I’m 90% sure his regeneration

is based of piccolos

right

or is it the uhh

fuckin

stupid 1 cell in his body

that he can come back from

[sleek halo]

if it is this

then he should’ve died

[mighty zenith]

he's like a fucking chicken

[sleek halo]

if brain is damaged/destroyed

there goes the namekian

[manic coral]

"TL;DR, Piccolo cells."
"I am...
...
80% sure I can't do that."
"We'll find that out after this is over"

[mighty zenith]

i love abridged cell

[sleek halo]

true

[manic coral]

i love picoclo's hesitation there for a moment

[sleek halo]

I mean tbf

[mighty zenith]

regular cell is great but abridged cell is just
a joy to listen to

[manic coral]

like he's internally for a moment thinking like

[sleek halo]

how would he know

[manic coral]

"shit, CAN i do that?"

[sleek halo]

[manic coral]

i mean even how he regenerates from

the statue thing

that Dabura did to him

[sleek halo]

brain wasn’t damaged isnthe reason

iirc

[manic coral]

i guess he DOES find out

[sleek halo]

namekians can regenerate from anything as long as the brain isn’t uh

fucked

so just blast off their head and they’re fucked

[mighty zenith]

i assume as long as he can use his brain he can regenerate since its not an automatic process

he's able to stall for the regen against raditz for instance

so he has to consciously decide to regenerate

which would be

tough

without a brain

[sleek halo]

Yeah

A bit tricky

one might say

[mighty zenith]

pluey's dead

[sleek halo]

meep moop

[manic coral]

oh you're in shayy's server

didnt know that

[mighty zenith]

ya

[sleek halo]

qhar..

[mighty zenith]

i just saw the notif and my brain shut off for a moment

[manic coral]

skill issue

[mighty zenith]

[sleek halo]

rude

ban her

[manic coral]

ANYWAYS

[mighty zenith]

truu

[sleek halo]

no more lead writer

in the server

[manic coral]

CALAMITY

[sleek halo]

not allowed

[mighty zenith]

i shall take over the lore

[eager bluff]

that was calamitous

[mighty zenith]

im a great writer trust

[eager bluff]

!

[split mortar]

Totally no offtopic here

[mighty zenith]

everyone is now multiversal+

[manic coral]

https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-game-theory-wrong-gif-2412339571630429073

[sleek halo]

40 minute dbz rant

GOO

[dusk laurel]

Finally

The machine has stopped churning

[manic coral]

sorry distracted by autism for 40 minutes there

[sleek halo]

dw

[mighty zenith]

ball of dragon

[manic coral]

shut up

topic is being changed

[sleek halo]

u had adhd to accompany you down the rabbit hole!!!

:3

[mighty zenith]

whats your favorite yharim whisper

[manic coral]

dunno tbh

[sleek halo]

mine is

either the first

or Yharon’s

[mighty zenith]

good choices tbh

[manic coral]

honestly i'm not actually huge on Yharon's, i'd change some notable things about it if i could go back.

[sleek halo]

Destiny is for the weak

is the hardest line

especially because it’s just so

Yharim

[minor moon]

i was siding with yharim ngl

[mighty zenith]

i wanna say either awakening or prelude

[manic coral]

though i do have a favorite bestiary entry

Providence

easy

not even a competition

[sleek halo]

this always reminds me if

[manic coral]

she has the best one

[mighty zenith]

yeah agreed

honestly the guardians and provi entries should be grouped together cause they complete each other

[sleek halo]

“Look upon my works, as they are… Ruined. None would dare seek me out; tread my path.”

“Look upon my works ye mighty and despair!”

[mighty zenith]

and they're all awesome

[sleek halo]

(I love Ozymandias)

[minor moon]

Talking bout providence,i wish DoG ate her so that he would be more of a challenge

[manic coral]

even the wiki uses a line form the entry instead of a line from the whisper

[sleek halo]

true

[mighty zenith]

its just so cool

[sleek halo]

Providence thing

is probably a top 3 for me

[mighty zenith]

nvm the actual best entry is moray eel

sorry!

[sleek halo]

The rock is the my favorite written thing though

By far

[manic coral]

and it's one of the bestiary lines i can claim full credit for

[minor moon]

...

[mighty zenith]

i dont think eating provi would make him any stronger

[sleek halo]

Genuinely

[manic coral]

correcto

[sleek halo]

So short yet

So

[mighty zenith]

all it would do is make another boss that gets cheated out of a kill

[sleek halo]

rucking

peak

[minor moon]

i thought that whatever DoG eats is added to his power

[sleek halo]

No

[manic coral]

noperino

[mighty zenith]

that was the case in old lore i believe

but not anymore

[sleek halo]

DoG is just

strong

he’s just strong

[small jay]

smth smth warped somewhere

[sleek halo]

Mr strong

[mighty zenith]

please, mr. strong was my father

call me john

[sleek halo]

So true

[manic coral]

now that is equal credit for both me and reb

we made that together

[sleek halo]

u guys made

[mighty zenith]

the rock just makes me want more xeroc content

[sleek halo]

one of the best things i’ve read

like

[manic coral]

good. becuase so do i.

[mighty zenith]

:D

[sleek halo]

so much characterization

crammed into

so little

[manic coral]

yeah

[dusk laurel]

True

[sleek halo]

U get so much of who he was

[minor moon]

is rock related to xeroc? i didnt get anything about it

[sleek halo]

Like I think it’s the best proof he wasn’t just

[manic coral]

we managed to cram half of Xeroc's character intro five lines

[sleek halo]

Just a selfish

[mighty zenith]

the monk that it mentions was xeroc before ascending

[sleek halo]

power hungry

asshole

[minor moon]

lowkey thought it was a quote from art of war

[sleek halo]

😭

HOW

[manic coral]

i'll take that as a compliment i suppose

[mighty zenith]

i mean
yeah

[sleek halo]

The art of war

[mighty zenith]

that just means its really fucking well written

[manic coral]

my favorite thing ive written overall is though of course

Embers

at least so far

[sleek halo]

Is a war book for dummies (but well written)

[manic coral]

it's nice to be able to write an actual little story about cal

[mighty zenith]

embers is great

[sleek halo]

Embers is great

indeed

[manic coral]

i'm not sure if Atoms will be quite as good

maybe not as impactful

[small jay]

tbh I wouldn't mind a Jared whisper in the future where Yharim is baffled about it, just, existing

-# That's probably influenced by me always playing with HoTOG and mr auric man is slightly freaked out by Goozma though

[manic coral]

Draedon doesnt have quite the same aura that Providence does

[sleek halo]

Yeah

He isn’t as

emotionally impactfuk

or

have too much depth

[manic coral]

But I still like what I have for it

[sleek halo]

he is a robot who knows thing and wants to know more

[mighty zenith]

we also know generally more about him than well
anyone

[sleek halo]

yeah

he literally damn near

[manic coral]

yeha no Embers says a lot about Providence herself

[sleek halo]

gave us an autobiography

LOL

[manic coral]

i also really like what I do with the capitalization of providence's pronouns

everything refering to her after the world is gone is uncapitalized

[mighty zenith]

tbf a draedon story that doesnt involve a loredump sounds like a great change of pace

[sleek halo]

I think the one I am most excited for

Is Yharim

Because seeing how he’d be

after accomplishing his goal

[minor moon]

Draedon just likes to improve his toys and learn

[sleek halo]

is interesting

What would he do

great

[manic coral]

the Yharim one will not be for a long time unless it's under special circumstances

[sleek halo]

he avenged the dragons

what now

what more is there

he can’t bring them back

he’ll be dead soon

[manic coral]

obviously the one i'm msot exctited to properly write is Endings

[sleek halo]

The world fucking hates him

[manic coral]

since it's essentially an epilogue to cal

at leats like

[sleek halo]

that’ll be fun

[manic coral]

in some sorta way

[mighty zenith]

im personally super fucking excited for Memories (im pretty sure you revealed the name before right)

[manic coral]

yes

[sleek halo]

Memories is for

[manic coral]

Memories is the Calamitas one

[sleek halo]

who again

ahh yea

[minor moon]

i like my power poisoned boi yharim

[sleek halo]

honestly I do wonder what

her goal is

[manic coral]

Currents is Braelor & Statis

[sleek halo]

ngl

I kinda want one for Silva

[atomic haven]

wait what are these

lore whispers?

I just came in rn

[mighty zenith]

short stories cei wants to write

[manic coral]

Stories i write between updates

[sleek halo]

non canon

[atomic haven]

ooh nice

darn

[sleek halo]

just basically

[manic coral]

lemme grab Embers if you wanna read it

[sleek halo]

what ifs afaik

[split mortar]

What ifs cei will write eventually

[minor moon]

I thought that silva was dead

[sleek halo]

She is currently comatose

[manic coral]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sOIzU-3BE3gVGlReWoJGt12ZiMpj3bqYjeydjvbWY9c/edit?usp=sharing

[sleek halo]

but she is nnot dead

[dusk laurel]

Snail

[mighty zenith]

🐌

[atomic haven]

she's an elemental AND the goddess of life, i.e. extremely difficult to kill

[sleek halo]

Silva is effectively unkillable by like

honestly

really anyone

lol

maybe xeroc

[split mortar]

She is practically immortal

[sleek halo]

or maybe noxus

[atomic haven]

also if you did somehow kill her it's possible that all of nature would be extinguished

[split mortar]

Nah
You would have to suicide fir her to be killable

[sleek halo]

ok maybe noxus then LOL

[split mortar]

You have to kill all nature for her to be killable

[atomic haven]

amounts to the same thing tbh

[sleek halo]

regardless,

[atomic haven]

either way everything dies

[manic coral]

I will say I am happy to share the premise for all of them

[sleek halo]

basically killing her is hard

really hard

[sleek halo]

that would be cool :3

[minor moon]

i would like to defeat silva as a superboss just for the shits and giggles
idc if her defeat/death makes the world into a ruin, just gimme something to fight and im in ngl

[split mortar]

She is like
Below scal

[atomic haven]

silva as a boss could honestly work if she just returns to the abyss

[sleek halo]

brother she is effectively a brick rn mentally 😭

[split mortar]

Scal is beyond every deity but xeroc

[mighty zenith]

its like squaring up to a person in a full body cast in a hospital

[sleek halo]

LOL

[minor moon]

We exist

The player

[mighty zenith]

actually josuke did that

[sleek halo]

(but pls do)

[atomic haven]

silva at her prime would annihilate but yeah she's basically disembodied life essence rn

[sleek halo]

didn’t he heal them first

[mighty zenith]

yeah he healed him so he could beat the shit out of him

[sleek halo]

Silva at her strongest is stll

[split mortar]

No, prime silva is below scal aswell

[sleek halo]

weaker than us

[atomic haven]

what srsly

[split mortar]

Yes

[atomic haven]

why is the goddess of life weak

[mighty zenith]

thats not weak

shes not unreasonably strong is all

[split mortar]

She isnt?

[sleek halo]

Tbf her blessings made 2 of the strongest people LOL

[split mortar]

Yharim, scal and exos are just
Cracked

[dusk laurel]

Silva is still stronger than Provi

[atomic haven]

yeah which is why I'm wondering

[dusk laurel]

Just not strong enough

[sleek halo]

jared is literally stronger than scal & exo mechs

[split mortar]

Also life is uh
A not offensive power

[sleek halo]

and Braelor is super strong too

[manic coral]

For Atoms, Draedon finally prepares to leave leave the planet, and seek worlds beyond.

[atomic haven]

Like Braelor and Statis almost got Yharim

[mighty zenith]

i dont think silva was a person to fight much herself

i imagine thats what she had braelor for

[split mortar]

^

[atomic haven]

oh true

[wheat walrus]

she's post-DoG for all we know

[split mortar]

she is below shakidou the strongest not xeroc god

[manic coral]

For Currents, Statis and Braelor make their way to Ilmeris just before the Incineration begins, being there to defend the kingdom

[sleek halo]

I do wonder how much they could accomplish..

[atomic haven]

I wonder if Yharim realizes that feeding gods to the dog is basically the same thing as feeding dragons to the dog

[manic coral]

For Names, the Devourer of Gods ponders on his existence

[split mortar]

And theyre below scal

[dusk laurel]

The "roomates" ark

[manic coral]

For Victories, Yharim and Yharon finally achieve their goal

[split mortar]

YO WHAT

[atomic haven]

like sure divine beings taint the auric souls they consume but fundamentally they're still in them

[sleek halo]

I assume that’ll include Xeroc lol

[mighty zenith]

embers did so

[manic coral]

for Memories, Calamitas goes to visit an old friend she met on their journies after something happened

[mighty zenith]

i hope so

[sleek halo]

I doubt either could rest easy

if Xeroc wss still around

[wheat walrus]

shrigma

[manic coral]

For Endings, many millenia after the crusade, Xeroc meets somebody at the edge of existence

[split mortar]

I mean
It doesnt just taint but completely changes both souls

[mighty zenith]

i wanna see yharon interact with xeroc please

[wheat walrus]

shrigma?

[wheat walrus]

ND

😭

[sleek halo]

shut up

die

explode

[mighty zenith]

omni banned

forever

eternally silenced

[dusk laurel]

Omni sealed away

[mighty zenith]

:gulpshush:

[dusk laurel]

Like the lord of the moon

[sleek halo]

That’s a cool idea

[manic coral]

But yes

[wheat walrus]

I caused the Calamity

[manic coral]

Those are the ones I wish to do at least

Possibly also a Signus one and a Silva one

[dusk laurel]

👁️

[sleek halo]

Xeroc meets

[mighty zenith]

eye of cthulhu

[sleek halo]

Xeroc

holy shit

[mighty zenith]

xeroc meets cthulhu!!!

[sleek halo]

!!!

[dusk laurel]

I'm so excited!!

[mighty zenith]

xeroc talks to Old Man Consequences

[split mortar]

Lol

[sleek halo]

I yearn for more Signus content

simply because I like him

he’s a funky fella

A silly lad

[dusk laurel]

Shrimpnus

[sleek halo]

Actually Cei I have a question

[split mortar]

Also what does edge of existence even entail…

[sleek halo]

Can I dm u rq

[manic coral]

Atoms is funny because it's not really a what-if it's actually plausible enough

same with Endings

[sleek halo]

it’s probably going to happen eventually Lol

[manic coral]

it's plausible

[split mortar]

Like go far enough in space or does the universe just end in a few thousand years

[manic coral]

Neither

[sleek halo]

it’s obviously all in his head

cause he’s fucking crazy

[manic coral]

You will get no more eleboration on Endings

[sleek halo]

after that long

duh

[split mortar]

Fair enough

[sleek halo]

Xeroc goes bonkers

[dusk laurel]

Xeroc needs the zaza

[manic coral]

Since, again

[sleek halo]

is the real ending

[manic coral]

It is literally basically the epilogue

for, like

Calamity itself

[deft vessel]

Perma one

[ruby flame]

who is dreadon i keep seeing him in the little lore items

[manic coral]

You'll meet him eventually

[split mortar]

Robot who made the mech bosses, astrum aureus, the plague and exo mechs

[manic coral]

Keep playing the game

[ruby flame]

@split mortarthanks

[split mortar]

Oh and calclone

[manic coral]

At least, my epilogue

[sleek halo]

I kinda feel like Perma doesn’t

need one

[manic coral]

Again, not strictly canon

just plausible

[dusk laurel]

Wait, no way

Xeroc meets fabsol

[manic coral]

he's tied enough to Cal's

same reaosn I'm not sure about a Silva one

[sleek halo]

Holy SHIT

[manic coral]

tied fairly strongly to Currents already

[sleek halo]

Well Silva should realistically be pretty detached from Braelor & Statis

She probably has her own

goals

and ambition

[manic coral]

and then there's the thing of like

[sleek halo]

something she wants to do

[manic coral]

ok what could i eleaborate on that one be elaborated in-game already

[sleek halo]

uhh

i can think of one thing

That could be fun for u

[split mortar]

How much it costed for an illmeran to get a surgery to fix scoliosis

[dusk laurel]

No.

You shall be broiled

[deft vessel]

He makes the best ice cream ever

[split mortar]

Vanillin and violence smh

[late veldt]

Oh boy I can't wait to catch up on #lore-discussion i hope it isn't literally all fucking Dragon Ball

[split mortar]

Pfft

[small jay]

[split mortar]

Oh your pfp is nkg
Sick

[small jay]

friend gifted me hk a while ago and I went through a several months long phase where I had its theme living rent free in my head

[split mortar]

Oh please

Onepiece wasnt mentioned atleast

[dusk laurel]

@rebecca

[small jay]

anyway i'll go back to lurking while working on my dumb challenge

[split mortar]

Aight

[sleek halo]

explodes

[late veldt]

Bandit?

[mighty zenith]

nop

you wont guess it fyi

[cosmic zenith]

Names, Victories and Endings sound absurdly peak

[late veldt]

fair enough

The Guide

[cosmic zenith]

I wonder what I could write

[late veldt]

imagine having to write a story about the fucking guide though

he's like

white bread in human(?) form

wait actually nvm he's quite interesting

Aside from his personality

[dusk laurel]

I think the concept of bread is generic enough

It's older than everyone here

[mighty zenith]

wrong

i invented bread

[late veldt]

yeah I think I have a cabinet that's older than everyone here

[dusk laurel]

No you're garbo

[mighty zenith]

so?

[dusk laurel]

[mighty zenith]

,,,,,,

[split mortar]

They have aureus not you

Sucks to suck

[mighty zenith]

jealous cause you dont get pats

[dusk laurel]

Wrong

[late veldt]

well if I systematically go through every terraria, calamity, real, and fictional character I'll get it eventually. I mean I'll probably get muted first but

[limpid saddle]

Do you guys think re-written DoG will go through ego death while he's dying or do you think he'll keep on his copium

[late veldt]

the fucking angler

[cosmic zenith]

I feel I'd like to write something like this for Vetrasyl, Flame Dragon, Otonilou, Calamitas, Yharon, Amidias, Slime God...

[late veldt]

Xeroc meets someone at the end of time and it's You! The Player! Wow!

[cosmic zenith]

The Christmas spoilers dialogue I wrote for Vetrasyl and Otonilou vaguely cover what I would like to

[dusk laurel]

_ _

[late veldt]

What's like the funniest guy he could meet out there

Angler

[cosmic zenith]

Flame Dragon would probably cover the folly of hubris somehow

Calamitas' would cover her grief, naturally

[mighty zenith]

dragon's.... folly?

i like that name...

[dusk laurel]

Incredible

[cosmic zenith]

Yharon's would cover compassion

Amidias' would cover faith

[indigo glade]

Absolute cinema.

[cosmic zenith]

Slime God's would cover humility

[summer agate]

I have a theory...

Terraria Calamity Mod?

Hyrule warriors age of calamity?

Coincidence they both have calamity?

I think NOT.

[split mortar]

Both have a deity beyond everyone with massive power over a unique type of light

[dusk laurel]

[summer agate]

Cryogen?

Sounds pretty close to Cryonogal from pokemon...

The wall of flesh?

[pliant ruin]

mods kill this guy

[summer agate]

The wall like the album from pink Floyd?

Eerily similar

[dusk laurel]

We need an admin

[split mortar]

Says a mod

[dusk laurel]

What mod?

[split mortar]

The Reign of Yharim addon

[dusk laurel]

[summer agate]

Reign...

[limpid saddle]

do not say risk of rain

[summer agate]

Oh I was thinking of something else lmfao

[hoary cape]

Risk of rain

[summer agate]

Infernum does have a ror2 reference lol

[pliant ruin]

p

[dusk laurel]

Holy shit

Is that

Sancho from the game Limbus Company by Project Moon

[pliant ruin]

yes it's me

Sancho from hit game Limbus Company by indie studio Project Moon

[indigo glade]

No.

[late veldt]

cheese has sanchified

[split mortar]

Not the first time

[limpid saddle]

It does???

[summer agate]

Yeah

If you kill night time Providence

She drops a lunar coin

And the lunar coin can be used to craft Purity

[limpid saddle]

damn thats crazy

[indigo glade]

Don't let this person know what the Radiance item used to be called...

[summer agate]

Radiance?

[indigo glade]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Radiance

[summer agate]

Like hollo-

[real silo]

Radians like the angle unit

[limpid saddle]

risk of glue on roach moment ig

[pastel path]

hollow knight??

[frozen zodiac]

i've had my calamity oc for a while now and i completely forgot about the dead relative quote from calamitas holy shit

[limpid saddle]

Oh yeah

Guess we can add that to the list of canon things we know about the Terrarian assuming it doesnt get retconned

[split mortar]

It may but also
Silly

[limpid saddle]

1. They are bad at naming things
2. They have a father & he smells like elderberries
3. They are an only child

[indigo glade]

An only child?

[split mortar]

Sucks at naming
Looks like yharim 2 to scal before fight
Doesnt look like yharim 2 to scal after fight

[limpid saddle]

There's a Calamitas NPC quote where she says something along the lines of "Is there anyone you'd like to have revived? Siblings perhaps? Oh, nevermind then." or generally to that effect

One sec i'll grab it from the wiki

[indigo glade]

"I can't pay rent, but if you've got any dead relative you want me to try and... what? You don't?"

This can be interpreted in multiple ways.

1. You have relatives that are alive
2. You don't want to revive your relatives

[limpid saddle]

"I can't pay rent, but if you've got any dead siblings you want me to try and... what? You don't?"

damn

melon's gonna snail me again

[dusk laurel]

@split mortar

[split mortar]

Wha

🐌

I had this chat open i was just busy vibing to the existence of 1:13 am

[indigo glade]

Go to sleep.

[limpid saddle]

[split mortar]

But the alunds of 1:14 are nice

Thats meant to say alsunf

Sounds

Sounds

[light linden]

sleep

[split mortar]

No

[indigo glade]

Yes.

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/daftpunk-daft-punk-explosion-epilogue-gif-20482285

I still know embeds dont exist

[light linden]

please?

[hoary cape]

Sleep or else

[split mortar]

No

[terse bloom]

is there like a roadmap for this mod? is there still unfinished content? the story definitely feels a little empty ending at calamitas. im just confused lol

[sleek halo]

a lot more content/lore is to come

[terse bloom]

explain

is draedon gonna be an actual boss 😭

oh and yharim

[sleek halo]

draedon uses his exo mechs to fight u

because he wants to test them

Yharim will be a boss

the final boss

[limpid saddle]

Wh- why would Dreadon himself throw hands with you

He has no reason to do that

[terse bloom]

i killed his robot

😭

[pliant ruin]

he wanted you to

[terse bloom]

fye

[limpid saddle]

Yeah & that was the point

[pliant ruin]

collect my pages

fight my exo mechs

[terse bloom]

but what if he was in the middle of nap

[limpid saddle]

He was testing how good the exo mechs were in comparison to you

[terse bloom]

and changed his mind

[limpid saddle]

& we were better than exo mechs

[pliant ruin]

you can't even fight draedon in the conventional way hes just a bunch of code 💔

[limpid saddle]

& even if we busted them up he can just repair them

[pliant ruin]

make like

a virus

draedon boss fight (it's just hacking)

[limpid saddle]

There's also a planned series of potential superbosses in Noxus & Xeroc

[terse bloom]

ok so where does the lore go from here then

[pliant ruin]

you go kill the bad guy

[limpid saddle]

We kill Yharim

Crusades are over

World's a little better

Yharon's eggmaxxing

everyone lives in relative peace with all the things trying to kill everyone dead

Calamitas & Permafrost make up & move to a small cabin with an industrial freezer

[terse bloom]

so realistically there's no more bosses that are being added til yharim

[tepid timber]

Gotta kill the player next

The player is the worst

Sicko

[limpid saddle]

No, but they are getting reworked for the seven billionth time

[terse bloom]

bro JUS FINISH THE GAME 😭🙏

[limpid saddle]

So it's gonna be at least 20 fargo seconds until the mod is in a state where the mod-staff deem it worthy to bestow the Yharim fight

[pliant ruin]

adding yharim now would be the equivalent of adding the final boss of a game to its unfinished early access build while the first boss still uses placeholder assets

[limpid saddle]

The Sunken Sea is getting eintierly overhauled, new enemies, resprited old enemies, new generated area between the Sunken Sea & Underground Desert to show off how Calamitas brought ruin to the land

[pliant ruin]

theres like 5 new biomes or smth

[limpid saddle]

Then the Brimstone Crag is getting reworked, Brimstone Elemental Reworked & Re-sprited

[terse bloom]

so is there a roadmap for this

[pliant ruin]

or 4 i forgot

[limpid saddle]

The Distortion is gonna get added as a sub-world

[pliant ruin]

pinned messages in spoiler talk

[gritty kraken]

Yharim with lunatic cultist ai

[pliant ruin]

closest you'll get to a public roadmap

[limpid saddle]

It will also be where we fight reworked DoG

[limpid saddle]

Bro what do you mean

The current Desert Scourge sprite is really good

[dusk laurel]

The sprite is good

but not the design

[limpid saddle]

im gonna miss him when he's gone but I get why they want to add variety to the designs of the scoogs

[dusk laurel]

I think this channel is safe

someone post the concept art

[gritty kraken]

“Post”

[dusk laurel]

[pliant ruin]

me when hyperbolic comparison that translates to "they dont want to add the final boss to a highly unfinihsed project"

[limpid saddle]

Oh yeah & the finalest final finaler area is gonna be the Dragon Aerie, a sub-world where we go to meet Yharim & beat him over the head with a rock 67 times

[pliant ruin]

peam

[dusk laurel]

Peam...

[limpid saddle]

[limpid saddle]

Peam...

[terse bloom]

so at the moment we won't be receiving any new major updates until reworks and refines are done for preexisting bosses and biomes

[limpid saddle]

Well those are within themselves major updates

[dusk laurel]

the next update is literally a major update

and then like 2 others after that before Yharim

[limpid saddle]

They add stuff just not end-game progression stuff

[tepid timber]

Just not the final update

The sunken sea update will be big

[limpid saddle]

So big it's in 2 parts

[dusk laurel]

and there's also a lot of "minor" updates in between

Acid rain rework

[gritty kraken]

New polter and ravager might be in crag overhaul update…..

[dusk laurel]

perennial biome

[tepid timber]

Might even say it’s massive

[dusk laurel]

profane biome (?)

vernal pass rework

[limpid saddle]

Potential Plauge sub-biome

[dusk laurel]

plague

[terse bloom]

nah y'all got me buggin 😭

[limpid saddle]

Oh yeah

I forgot those guys were gonna get reworked

[terse bloom]

ravager boss isn't good so thank god they're reworking it

[limpid saddle]

The designs for them were really quite cool

[tepid timber]

Show the ravager concept art

[gritty kraken]

They are both of the same tier afterall

[limpid saddle]

Now Ravager is a horrifying obelisk of flesh that is like really fucking big

[dusk laurel]

Again, the pinned document in https://discord.com/channels/225030931008847874/711268703991365642 has most of the public info about future updates

[limpid saddle]

& Polter is a bunch of ghosts sealed in armor &... seals

[dusk laurel]

And also you can see images there

[gritty kraken]

🦭

[dusk laurel]

[indigo glade]

👻 👻 👻 🔒 🛡️ 🦭 🦭

[dusk laurel]

[outer wyvern]

ok, so... actually interesting question. why is the terrarian supposed to kill Yharim, when he doesn't really show himself to be an active threat? none of the bosses fight us because Yharim wanted them to, and Yharim is clearly shown to be remorseful for his grievances. All the other bosses you fight are either 1. hunting the player for some reason, 2. are disturbed by the player in nature, typically accidentally or unknowingly, or 3. actively pose a threat to terraria itself.

[solar wharf]

as in, the motivation for the terrarian?

thats headcanon

majority of things terrarian related is the canon of YOUR oc

[dusk laurel]

Yharim is not remorseful in any way

He just regrets losing allies

[limpid saddle]

Yharim's only remorse is that he got a little too blood-frenzied dictator & started listening to that fuckass worm & also that he didn't manage to kill every God

[outer wyvern]

what about the whole leaving the dungeon to rot situation?

or everything to do with Calamitas.

[dusk laurel]

If he really cared he would've killed Polterghast

[limpid saddle]

That was the Dragon Cult's domain admittedly, they just let him in, & then he mismanaged his men so bad all of them & their prisoners starved to death

[light linden]

random thing

[dusk laurel]

And like try to reconcile with Calamitas, even if it would be futile

[light linden]

do we know if draedon has messed around with alchemy?

[dusk laurel]

No

N/A

[light linden]

wonder why

it's basically just chemistry

[dusk laurel]

I think this is just really specific information that doesn't need to be elaborated on

[light linden]

I mean maybe but also potions have like

no lore

[dusk laurel]

Drugs

[limpid saddle]

Yeah I personally interpret that given his views on slavery he at least recognises why employing a traumatized teenager as the 'nuclear option' for his entire armed force was a bad idea

[indigo glade]

Those are still "upset over losing allies", not "upset because he did bad stuff".

[limpid saddle]

But there's no way Calamitas would ever forgive him

[light linden]

which is weird considering they're something nearly everyone uses

[outer wyvern]

its a fantasy setting, don't question it

[light linden]

I am questioning it

[dusk laurel]

You question anything

smh

[light linden]

yes

[limpid saddle]

Anyway he wants us to fight him good because he thinks he's basically been grooming us to be his protegè & personal Xeroc-murder device

[light linden]

I still wanna know what makes infected armor plating so special

[limpid saddle]

He sees us as having the potential to kill the 'Traitor Almighty' but he won't be able to prove that to himself until we ourselves march up to the Dragon Aerie & best him

[outer wyvern]

ok. so then why does he state things such as "do not fall as i have," when refering to the polterghast after admiting he ignored the issue, or asks us to "show respect to her (calamitas) where I did not." why would he ask these things if he didn't care about what he did?

[limpid saddle]

cough cough

[indigo glade]

We aren't saying he doesn't care. He does. He just doesn't care in the traditional sense of looking out for others. He sees allies as things to use. Calamitas as a weapon. The Dragon Cult as a source of information. If they weren't these things, they wouldn't be allies in the first place.

[limpid saddle]

he understands that he went blood-crazed dictator at the end but he sees himself as a tragic hero that failed his mission & not a war-criminal

[outer wyvern]

can't he be both?

[limpid saddle]

he is one

he is not the other

guess which

[tepid timber]

He sure as shit isn’t a hero

[limpid saddle]

Again, SO MANY WARCRIMES

He had a personal Shock-Trooper Battalion whose sole-purpose were to burn down churches & kill civilians

Then he had Dreadon turn their souls into fucking Skeletron Prime

[outer wyvern]

tbf those souls were more than willing to become skele prime

[limpid saddle]

I think you're looking at this in the very wrong way in having sympathy for people that are a half-step off saluting the Fuhrer

& not the people they burned to death in their own homes & places of worship

[outer wyvern]

I'm not saying he didn't do those. when I say he was a hero, I mean when he was crusading against the gods who turn into the corruption/crimson. VERY early in his crusades. there's no way he had those guys right off the bat. its just his fall started WAY sooner than he realizes

[limpid saddle]

Those Gods could've very well been good & upstanding divine beings before their macabre carcasses were splayed across the lands to fester & blight

Plus if anything

Yharim fucking made the evil biomes

Because he didnt know how to dispose of the corpses of the Gods he killed

[light linden]

mmmm

[limpid saddle]

If he figured out proper etiquette earlier the Evil Biomes wouldnt fucking exist

[light linden]

half wrong

the hallow is what the good gods made

the evil ones made the crimson and corruption

[outer wyvern]

so then why did Yharon stick so closely to Yharim. the dragons are undoubtedly the good guys in all of this, but obviously he stopped supporting Yharim somewhere along the way, which I take as evidence of him being a genuine hero at some point

[dusk laurel]

Dragons were not universally good

They were nuanced

Many were pretty bad

[indigo glade]

Because of Draedon's comment on the Clentaminator during the Astral Infection Inquiry, we know that they are relatively common place, or at least known about. Yharim could, at any time, order a mass cleansing of the evil biomes. He just doesn't.

[dusk laurel]

many were pretty good

just like the gods

[late veldt]

my favorite part of the lore is how Draedon gives zero shits whether or not you die in this fight nor does he care about stopping you. he just wants to test out his robots and doesn't care what huge consequences murdering/giving massive tech to The Guy will do

[indigo glade]

Yharon never stopped supporting Yharim.

[late veldt]

but then again that's not unprecedented for him he kinda helped facilitate a genocide

[limpid saddle]

No Yharon supported him the entire time, the Dragons were just as flawed as the Gods, just without the 'Divine Sin' tied to their asses, Yharon supported Yharim because he was gonna kill the people that culled & slaughtered his for a century

[indigo glade]

(I really feel like I don't need to make this clear, but just in case, you do not resolve a genocide with another genocide.)

[limpid saddle]

While ultimately the dragon hunts were a very bad thing, undoubtably, & not alot of good really came out of them at all, the retort probably shouldn't've been "KILL 'EM ALL 1867"

But then again you can't really come to the table with people who are actively trying to hunt you so they can eat your soul

It's a real lose-lose

[outer wyvern]

I still feel like Yharim isn't the end-all evil in this story. that honor should be going to DOG's boss. I don't remember his name, but he's the god of the distortion.

[limpid saddle]

Wh- Noxus?

He hasn't

really done anything at all

The Distortion just kind of exists he isn't the big-bad here

[tepid timber]

I also don’t think noxus is a god

[limpid saddle]

He is not no

In the Distortion hierarchy he is the strongest but equal in status to Signus

i guess 'us' suffix is a signifier of status?

[tepid timber]

Probably just a coincidence

[indigo glade]

I think that's a coincidence.

[limpid saddle]

Yeah but it's fun to imagine it isn't

[plucky lichen]

I am the most evil villain in the mod

[tepid timber]

Or maybe signus and noxus are secretly lovers?

[limpid saddle]

At least in-universe

[limpid saddle]

My mind went to brothers of some kind & i really hope these two dont overlap

Especially considering all distortion beings exist within a collective consciousness

kinda

[late veldt]

Yharon is probably like. the second worst being in terms of overall impact

first is Fovos

[indigo glade]

Most, not all.

Wait...

[tepid timber]

He got jumped by the dragons right?

[indigo glade]

Lots of organisms actually being one big organism...

Noxus is a fungus?

[limpid saddle]

He reverse-jumped them but yeah

[tepid timber]

Goat

[late veldt]

Fovos (moon lord)

[real silo]

Yes

[late veldt]

did that yeah

[real silo]

Funxus

[limpid saddle]

The distortion is a metaphor for fungal colonies

[late veldt]

uhhhhhhhhg given he was like trying to Kill Everything. no not really

[real silo]

Dog is just a long snaky mushroom

[tepid timber]

Game recognizes game

Not saying he was a good guy, but he did his thing.

I wonder if he’s from new york

[limpid saddle]

his thing was the annihilation of all life

[pliant ruin]

Yharim isn't the most powerful antagonist, that title goes to Noxus yeah

but he is absolutely the main one

[late veldt]

and he didn't even do that well

[tepid timber]

It is what it is

[pliant ruin]

Like, as powerful as Noxus is i do not see it having anywhere near as much narrative weight to its actions as Yharim does to the overall story

[indigo glade]

"Ay! I'm walkin' here!" -Moon Lord trying to take a regular stroll through the cosmos.

[limpid saddle]

As said, Noxus simply is

& he & Xeroc apparently have generational beef

[pliant ruin]

and then the dragon asked "He's right behind me isn't he?" as moon lord showed up, and was, in fact, right behind him

[tepid timber]

Dark vs Light shit makes sense

[late veldt]

the dragon

the single dragon

[pliant ruin]

the dragon

[indigo glade]

Unspecified dragon.

[pliant ruin]

Time....... The dragon

[limpid saddle]

not really why but sure

[outer wyvern]

that we know of. we know jack all about Noxus and Xeroc, on purpose.

[tepid timber]

I meant thematically not story wise

Xeroc probably doesn’t like him cause he’s from LA

[pliant ruin]

We know a good bit about xeroc tbh

He directly talks to you ingame through boss rush and The Rock

[dusk laurel]

the rock gives a lot about their character

[pliant ruin]

And regardless of that

[tepid timber]

The rock

[pliant ruin]

No matter what xeroc or noxus end up being

I still do not see either of them (Particularly Noxus, since Xeroc i find highly unlikely to be an actual antagonist) being anywhere near as narratively relevant as Yharim

like yes ofc they are more powerful

but "bigger" in the sense of how much they matter to the story? yeah not really

[indigo glade]

Noxus feels like the final boss of a Calamity 2, but you can just decide to stop them early.

[outer wyvern]

Noxus to me gives heavy "greater evil manipulating everything from the shadows" vibe.

[tepid timber]

He gives random dude in the corner vibes

[loud crag]

xeroc is kinda chill tbh

[pliant ruin]

The problem with that is that Yharim's motivation inherently is one that was done out of his own will and making it so "He was manipulated!!" would remove basically all weight to his character

[tepid timber]

I’d play cod with him

[limpid saddle]

Thats great & all but he is just a guy

This is the Tyrant's story

[pliant ruin]

The closest we have to someone who actively manipulated Yharim, if anything, was Yharon, but one could argue that itw as less manipulation and more so Yharon genuinely believing all the things he told Yharim

wow this really is a reign of yharim

[dusk laurel]

A reign of...

what.

[limpid saddle]

I'm thinkin I like that name...

[pliant ruin]

[indigo glade]

Which can't really happen since DoG arrived quite late for manipulate everything, Signus is dissociated from Noxus (and even if he was associated, Signus only dealth with the Onyx Kinsmen), and there aren't any other known entities from the Distortion that can talk. Ceaseless Void was sealed before the Dragon Cult found it, and Storm Weaver's whole thing is escaping the hivemind.

[pliant ruin]

Signus is my favorite distortion guy

hes just a dude

[limpid saddle]

Not to mention even if DoG was there earlier

[pliant ruin]

you ask him for unlimited power he gives you a single sea prism

and like

he's not wrong

he did give you unlimited power

[limpid saddle]

He's got a tounge made out of gallium

[dusk laurel]

So real for that

[tepid timber]

Signus has a cool design but also he’s not an ally

[dusk laurel]

Would Signus be down to chain smoke

[limpid saddle]

He couldn't talk his way out of a paper bag

[indigo glade]

I love faustian bargains.

[pliant ruin]

i love faust

[indigo glade]

Wait...

Say that again...

[dusk laurel]

[limpid saddle]

Oh I thought you meant the cool homeless doctor...

[pliant ruin]

he's also cool but he's not my faust

[limpid saddle]

my morning has been ruined

[thick slate]

sigmus

[dusk laurel]

This truly was our limbus company

[limpid saddle]

signut

[indigo glade]

Faust... Like Limbus Company...

[pliant ruin]

glory to the company glory to kim jihoon

[dusk laurel]

"Man I really feel like getting a lobotomy"

[thick slate]

like cimbus lumpany

[dusk laurel]

The humble lobotomy corporation:

[pliant ruin]

man i need to go get some books from the library

[indigo glade]

I need a library that has books about ruins.

[pliant ruin]

the nefarious loland:

[limpid saddle]

i miss when this was a calamity server

[indigo glade]

I don't.

[dusk laurel]

[indigo glade]

I love this Project Moon server.

[tepid timber]

This is important lore

[limpid saddle]

[pliant ruin]

you see this is very relevant to calamity lore because

yeah

[dusk laurel]

Ardor Blossom Star is clearly canon to calamity

[indigo glade]

Faustian bargain.

[pliant ruin]

i mean

it is

like for real unironically ..

[dusk laurel]

I know,,,,

[indigo glade]

By the way, is there a list of references for Calamity items and such?

[dusk laurel]

We need Shade to sneak in more references to Project Moon

[pliant ruin]

not sure

he got two in already

the funny whip and his murasama

i'm surprised his murasama wasn't just durandal tbh

[indigo glade]

I sent StupidCal to Shade and he didn't even care...

[limpid saddle]

sigh

[indigo glade]

💔

[limpid saddle]

goodbye calamity lore chat

[dusk laurel]

Where's carmen to distort Calamitas

[limpid saddle]

i'll come back when you've recovered from your lobotomy era

[pliant ruin]

if you want to talk about calamity lore just talk about calamity lore

offtopic conversations happen here all the time and they wont stop if theres nothing else to talk about

[indigo glade]

You should come aboard on Mephistopheles.

[dusk laurel]

vroom vroom

[late veldt]

what the hell even is mana in lore

[indigo glade]

Thing that exists.

Can be used for stuff.

[late veldt]

wow what a good descriptor of literally all things in existence

[indigo glade]

And inexplicably converts itself into a viral infection that can somehow speak to non-sapient creatures if condensed hard enough with enough of itself.

[late veldt]

I know the Y in the logo is Yharim's sigil. But does the C mean anything?

[sinful adder]

That's like asking what electric charge or mass is

Its a fundamental force/property

[eager bluff]

calamity

[indigo glade]

It just looks cool.

I don't think it is an actual sigil for anything.

[sinful adder]

its for Crabulon obviously!

[robust osprey]

C is for clone cause calamity is minecraft's clone

duh

[frank ravine]

Why yharim a tyrant

Also why we on our way to kill every boss tho ):

I want to be a pacifist

[robust osprey]

then do low%

shrimple

[frank ravine]

Yeah but then eoc spawned so they waged war against me

[robust osprey]

terrarian isnt forced to kill everything

[frank ravine]

Then I was about to forgive this wulfrum stuff came

[robust osprey]

in the lore

insert terrarian is you image

🫵

[frank ravine]

In my defence they killed the nurse first

So I had to wage war in return

(:

[robust osprey]

fuck nurse

[frank ravine]

Everyday

(:

[robust osprey]

wait wha

[frank ravine]

Anyways is it true that draedon mass produces his mechs

[robust osprey]

prolly not

[frank ravine]

If yes where can I buy one

[robust osprey]

there's only 1 ares

and 1 thana

1 apolo and 1 artemis

[frank ravine]

I thought he would have a factory or something

Oh it got destroyed

Welp here's another which I pre made

[robust osprey]

is it beacuse draeguy didnt have time to do more? probably

[frank ravine]

Time to turn on windows

[frank ravine]

Don't you think he would have an AI factory

[robust osprey]

why would he

[frank ravine]

Tbf I feel like his mechs arent perfected

Mofo speaks like he's taking our data

And will make another mech

Also is flamesteed ring connected to that guy or it's just really cool item

[robust osprey]

non canon item

[frank ravine]

Mass production technology

[frank ravine]

So really cool item got it

[frank ravine]

.

[robust osprey]

who would he sell it to

almost everyone is like

not alive

[frank ravine]

Me (:

I want to drive an ares

Or thanatos

[robust osprey]

cause he evil and genocidal and racist

[frank ravine]

I won't crash

[frank ravine]

Huh

Bro was sad for a dragon

And sad when bees died

Such a hypocrite

[robust osprey]

racist against gods I should clarify

[frank ravine]

Is dog a god or a self claimed god

[robust osprey]

self claimed

[frank ravine]

That hey Im op enough so I'm god

[frank ravine]

Bitch

That's why he died

[robust osprey]

lmao

[frank ravine]

What is a terrarian

Normal human?

[robust osprey]

anything that hasnt consumed auric soul is no god

[frank ravine]

How the hell we are even alive

[robust osprey]

you

except we suck at naming

[frank ravine]

Shouldn't we have died in crucade

Or something

[frank ravine]

I named myself Ace

Pretty good name ngl

Then Asher

[robust osprey]

not that type of name

I mean the names like

Eater of Worlds

[frank ravine]

Oh

LMAO

[robust osprey]

which is a name that probably terrarian came up with

and miracle matter which draedon is really mad at its name

[frank ravine]

Why are we fighting yharim?

[frank ravine]

Auric toilet would be a godsent stuff for us

[robust osprey]

cause he is a genocidal racist

[frank ravine]

Also if we mine auric ore we get shot to across the map

But when we wear auric

It's like we chill

Wtf is up with that

[robust osprey]

beacuse auric armor is like

made to not reject u

it's more refined

[frank ravine]

Auric Armor is not auric Armor

Type shi

[frank ravine]

Damn we are forcing it

Should have taken the consent

💀

[robust osprey]

LMAOO

[frank ravine]

Demonshade Armor canon?

[robust osprey]

uuh

anything that has shadowspec is not canon

thing is

[frank ravine]

MY TEMPORAL UMBRELLA

[robust osprey]

demonshade will not require shadowspec

in a future update

[frank ravine]

Atleast Mok and metasis staff is not demon shade

So yeeeee

[frank ravine]

About that

It will get class specific helm right

So what will exo Armor be then?

The new demonshade alternative like for classes

[robust osprey]

exo will be all-round

and demonshade will get like 3 helms

but rogue and ranger are together