#lore-discussion

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plucky lichen
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See

real silo
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Aka sdfmg

plucky lichen
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Same mindset

spare pier
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NO

plucky lichen
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Bows are really cool pleaseeeee

sinful adder
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ranger stuff is kinda lame currently and should be made more cool

spare pier
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Ok I mean more so

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"We are never making something on the same level of Ark"

limpid saddle
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Endgame Summoner gear is really lame right now

plucky lichen
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But ranger :(

limpid saddle
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So I really hope I just get something cooler

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Cause outside of the mecha

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there's not alot going on

plucky lichen
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I mean we get heavenly gale which is cracked but

spare pier
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Obviously we want to make other Classes have their Ark equivalents

plucky lichen
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I need more bow

real silo
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Summoner gets like 2 reworked weapons next update

plucky lichen
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I just did a bow run and I need more bows

spare pier
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But not literally to the same level of Ark because Ark is just

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Fucked

light linden
plucky lichen
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Maybe I’m biased towards bows because I shoot them in real life but come on

real silo
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A theoretical ark equivalent for other classes should not be just a copy of melee ark

spare pier
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Even if I love that weapon I must acknowledge it's not very healthy and we did our best to make it as much as possible but it's still in a super awkward of spot of just eclipsing literally everything around it

real silo
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Because that'd be dull as fuck

spare pier
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Ark is, quite literally

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Too good

light linden
plucky lichen
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I want a bow that shoots stars

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Shooting stars

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It would be pretty

real silo
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Astral bow rework

plucky lichen
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Idc how much damage it does I just want a pretty bow

limpid saddle
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I long for more cool summoner weapons

real silo
spare pier
plucky lichen
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Heavenly gale is pretty

spare pier
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I think Ark isn't the main culprit

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Ark itself is fine

real silo
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Heavenly gale is ugly ...

spare pier
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Biome Blade is the sin

real silo
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The lightning is cool though

plucky lichen
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I fucking love that thing

sinful adder
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biome blade is too unique for something you get too early

light linden
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rebecca is this a bad time for a question?

sinful adder
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it should be cool in a less special way maybe

spare pier
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Ark is a bit overloaded but aside from the horrid keybind and poor integration of the Big Rip it's like, perfectly fine, and we fixed all of those next update

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Biome Blade is just

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4/8 weapons in one

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And half of the ones in BB suck

real silo
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The best ark line change is making galaxia pre dog

plucky lichen
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Man I need to look at the ark crafting line rq

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How early do I have to start thinking about this thing

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I just only made myself a grass blade

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Thingy

light linden
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post evil 2 bosses iirc

plucky lichen
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Ok

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I’m doing a melee infernum run

real silo
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minfenrufm

spare pier
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So yeah, like

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Ark is clean, even if it's a bit overloaded

plucky lichen
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Hopefully my buds will join but if not I got it

spare pier
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Biome Blade is just fucked

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That thing is too much and I'm glad we cut down on Attunements to not be 5/8

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It's 4/6 now

plucky lichen
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I actually wrote today

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Rare occurrence

spare pier
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Anyways

plucky lichen
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Calamity lore encouraged me to write for the first time in a millennium

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I must make lore of my silly calamity oc

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Still trying to think of a motivation as to why she does shit

spare pier
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Calamari is cool I like her

plucky lichen
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I like her too

spare pier
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Another thing I like is how I wrote her defeating DoG

plucky lichen
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Silly squid

spare pier
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Where, yeah I make her stick with the Ark line throughout the whole game

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So she uses Ark of the Elements against DoG

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And yeah, he brings her to the Distortion and all that

limpid saddle
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Wait is this OC a Terrarian fill in?

plucky lichen
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Yes

spare pier
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But I think DoG being defeated in the overworld is just

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Too fucking cool

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So

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She hits DoG so fucking hard that she opens a portal back to Terraria

limpid saddle
spare pier
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And the fight ends there, when she goes flying to space and DoG follows her

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And she just fucking

plucky lichen
light linden
spare pier
plucky lichen
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Hell fucking yeah

limpid saddle
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Im gonna dip

plucky lichen
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Seeya!

limpid saddle
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this is going into a place not meant for my kind

light linden
limpid saddle
plucky lichen
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Well

light linden
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still not sure how I feel about how I wrote most of the boss fights

plucky lichen
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I have made my terrarian multiclass, and she’s a massive hoarder, following the habits I have in the game lol. I never sell or throw anything away

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I’m currently trying to write entries in the style of the lore items to build up a sort of cohesive story and development

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But I have so many ideas in my head and I don’t know which ones to use

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I also want to make most of the information pertaining to Eris and her story, fairly accurate to the lore

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So I’ve been trying to learn everything I can here lol

plucky lichen
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What does yharim think of this btw

spare pier
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She isn't sinful, but he still knows what she stands for

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He did give her a title too, since it was him who named her

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The Abyssal

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And when he discovered she was a Goddess, his answer was basically

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"When we meet, you will tell me who you are. If you tell me you are a Goddess, I'm going to fucking butcher you"

plucky lichen
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What a nice guy

plucky lichen
spare pier
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Nah, they fought honorably, Calamari does resent her Auric Soul

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But her conviction was still that Yharim needed to die

plucky lichen
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Ahhhh I see

spare pier
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Her whole thing is that the world is too broken and needs to be uprooted to go back to a normal state

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She is hellbent on killing (or in Calamitas' case, retiring) any meaningful figure for the world

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Including herself, mind you

plucky lichen
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Oh!

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Hopefully she just retires… right?

spare pier
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Originally I had a thing where she kills Xeroc but their fight ended in space

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And since she was kept alive by Silva's life support

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She dies there

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But I'm not really satisfied with her killing Xeroc anymore

plucky lichen
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Ahhhhh ok ok

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What would happen when xeroc or if xeroc dies

spare pier
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He dies HDfailure

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Not much

plucky lichen
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Ahhhh

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I know gods remains can effect the land, would xeroc leave any behind? And if so how would that effect the surrounding area

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Unless we fight him in like

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Fucking space

spare pier
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I can't really answer that honestly

light linden
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imagine if it forms a mini sun

spare pier
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I'm always iffy about answering anything about Xeroc

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And I might add

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You ain't getting a thing about Noxus from me

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And probably any other Dev HDfailure

plucky lichen
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It’s ok I’m willing to wait for however long that will take to be revealed

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I know, basically nothing about him

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Apart from the fact that he might be in kahoots with the dog

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Definitely one of the guys of all time

plucky lichen
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Good lord it’s 12 am

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I gotta sleep

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Gn gang, and thank you Rebecca for answering questions and sharing info on your cool character!!

eager bluff
real silo
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Spaghetti

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Two of his fellow distortion folks are noodles

split mortar
calm patio
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i saw that one signus one eating noodles yea

pliant ruin
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signus

frigid sage
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Noodle

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Noodle fly Rain World

thick slate
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rain worl

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:3

gritty kraken
cosmic zenith
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(Rain World Artificer campaign spoilers)
This MAP is so peak
And it would really fit Calamitas' character

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Anyone who doesn't want to get RW spoilers, I still recommend checking out the song

hybrid barn
sinful adder
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Ooh, good animation

plucky lichen
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Watched basically every one of the warrior cat ones like 7 years ago

halcyon raft
cloud ibex
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her oc

halcyon raft
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ohhhhhh i see

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i remember i named my character "the fallen king" because i was going to give him this entire backstory but i didn't realise calamity had lore of its own lmao

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so i didn't know how to fit it in

deft vessel
gleaming skiff
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i liked it when yharim said "in the jungle, you sowed the disease, transforming the queen bee into a colossal plague-wielder, and thus concluded." when the plague fell to the jungle
and then the cavalcade of calamity dances, drizzledon went like "the great pestilent giant is a falsehood and I bear no blame for whatever it supposedly wrought upon the forest and the buzzing insects"

magic epoch
plucky lichen
# magic epoch

This spell gets strengthened whenever I enter this channel

frozen zodiac
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im asking here since its technically lore related but which bestiary entry is the longest? and also the shortest one not counting ceaseless void being completely empty

spare pier
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Yharon is the longest one

split mortar
dusk laurel
patent rover
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i think i asked this before but i don't remember if i got a response: do we know how long the vernal pass has been abandoned?

wheat walrus
split mortar
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Draedon

wheat walrus
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but who created draedon

hoary cape
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You

wheat walrus
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if so

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draedon embodies and is the concept of autism
I created it

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outerverse scaling here i come

hoary cape
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Nah we wiped your power after that

wheat walrus
hoary cape
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Yes

wheat walrus
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nop

hoary cape
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You have no power here

tacit wren
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We can take it back

dusk laurel
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Wrong channel

wheat walrus
halcyon raft
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ah sorry

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i forgot to read the channel name

hybrid barn
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There's something I'm a bit curious about! Lorewise, would it make sense for the astral infection to look a bit more...infectiony? Like, an actual semi-organic cosmic disease?

thick slate
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what does a cosmic alien disease look like usually

mighty zenith
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idk ask youre mom

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😎

dusk laurel
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Nefarious

thick slate
mighty zenith
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:3

plucky lichen
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:3

pliant ruin
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its alien

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it can kinda look like whatever

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this is less of a lore question and more of a visual design one in which case i mean yeah i think the general aesthethic of the astral infection dosent convey itself too well

hybrid barn
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Or I guess what i meant is if it makes sense for it to have dramatic transformative properties, or if the...vaguely alien cosmic palette robots are more fitting to its function

limpid saddle
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Well, it's the rotting corpse of a star, while i'd say it could maybe be doing something a little more to convey what was converted to create these creatures & make them organic, there's alot of plating in the designs

limpid saddle
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It's just doing alot, & i'd say alot of that is done pretty well

hybrid barn
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Funny enough, I wasn't asking in thinking it was too dramatic, i was moreso wondering if it'd make sense for it to be a more dramatic transformation than what you see in game, since I feel like the enemy designs are a little...on the tamer side

limpid saddle
hybrid barn
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Pretty much!

pliant ruin
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Astral enemy design is

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pretty mediocre imo

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they're supposed to be infected earthen creatures b ut

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none of the designs really convey that

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they just seem like space robots

hybrid barn
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So I assumed they were just other kinds of drones Draedon sent in

pliant ruin
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no they're all organic

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my point is further supported AngelaSmug

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if you read their beastiaries they're all meant to be earthen organisms or animals turned into astral infected things

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like the smal sightseers r meant to be birds

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big sightsteers ri think demon eyes

cloud ibex
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would be kinda neat if some of the astral creatures actually attacked with like

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primitive spellcasts

pliant ruin
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oh yeah that would be cool

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they should lean in the magic theme more

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n also actually look like infected earth beings

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rather than robotic blobs

light linden
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astral probes are birds, sightseer colliders are demon eyes, and sightseer spitters are wandering eyes

pliant ruin
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ohhh right

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ty

formal willow
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is moonlord theorically according to calamity lore the only true "god", i mean something that didnt eaten an auric soul to became a "god"

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he already existed before

hoary cape
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He isn't a god

calm patio
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^

hoary cape
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It's an alien

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A very powerful alien

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Before it got weakened

sinful adder
formal willow
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while who is noxus so

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just someone who eated auric soul?

random mulch
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noxus isnt a god

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we dont exactly what noxus is but we do know that: they're connected to the distortion, they're DoG's boss and they might be contolling a hive mind (not the boss)

pastel path
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is wotg noxus lore accurate

random mulch
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not in the slightest

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and to avoid confusion, wotg is being completely reworked & renamed next update

pastel path
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oh ok

sinful adder
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WOTG is not calamity at all. It was based on some ideas that were planned for calamity and then everyone on YouTube decided to call it calamity

mighty zenith
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"ermm... its based on old calamity so its obviously calamity... are you dumb?"

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almost 1 to 1 a comment i saw on a wotg video

real silo
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Youtube comments

dusk laurel
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Yuck

wheat walrus
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WoTG is as Calamity as other addons are

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It's Calamity as in a Calamity Addon you could say

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But it's not official to Calamity the main project, and since this is the lore channel, it'd have its own lore or at least not be canon to Calamity lore

plucky lichen
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noxus is a dude

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defintitely a guy of all time

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he exists

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and uhm\

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has a dog

split mortar
plucky lichen
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yes he do bitch

light linden
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random thing

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do we know how draedon power cells are charged?

late veldt
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electricity

light linden
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I could guess that much

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I meant what source

limpid saddle
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do you guys think Clamity should be made canon by the way

late veldt
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hell is clamity

limpid saddle
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it adds Supreme Clamitas

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it's calamitas

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but a clam

late veldt
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it's so peak

limpid saddle
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Also pyrogen

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which is cryogen

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but hot

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& also it has like a cool mechanical-esque design going on

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The last thing it adds is something that could actually have lore signifigance is the Wall of Bronze

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Basically a mechanical back-up of the Wall of Flesh designed to activate & continue the priors purpose & stabilise the world if the WOF got got

hoary cape
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It should not be canon

limpid saddle
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engage a little

dusk laurel
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So many calamity addons smh

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I always stick to the classics

limpid saddle
split mortar
dusk laurel
dusk laurel
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cmm and wotg

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i should try ccr soon tho

limpid saddle
dusk laurel
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Calamity Community Remix

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A very high effort shitpost

limpid saddle
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Ooh

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that?

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Wait

dusk laurel
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Fanny

limpid saddle
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But not even Catalyst???

dusk laurel
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I'm not interested in Catalyst tbh

limpid saddle
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or Hunt Of The Old God???

dusk laurel
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HotoG is basically just Goozma

limpid saddle
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yeah

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& goozma's fucking awesome

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this is divine discrimination

dusk laurel
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WotG just brings a lot more to the table

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Especially next update

limpid saddle
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I mean they are really cooking with the reworks

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But why not just have Goozma there too?

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He's a fun fight, he's got cool drops

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It's an, i'd say equal level in quality & gamma rays to ND

dusk laurel
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ND and co are getting some upgrades next update, and a bunch of other shit

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Also I don't want to fry my pc from having too many mods

limpid saddle
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It's 1 extra mod vanillin

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like it's fair i'm not the divine jury of mod-lists

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but i shrimply do not follow the logic wires

dusk laurel
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I have a personal vendetta against Goozma

limpid saddle
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but why?

hoary berry
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goozed too hard 💔

limpid saddle
split mortar
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YOU

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YOU

hoary berry
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ME

split mortar
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YOU STILL AWAKE

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WTF

hoary berry
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YES

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so are you

split mortar
dusk laurel
hoary berry
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my reasons are: infernum

dusk laurel
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mfw lucile wants the flames of infernum to go out

split mortar
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My reasons are
Best Friend had to come over due to

Personal reasons i aint the one to tell

hoary berry
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inf yharon shall forever blaze in my heart

bleak escarp
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As a summoner I found a broken set up that allowed me to have infinite summon slots for a summon yharon drops

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This was in revengence expert mode so I was not is god mode

limpid saddle
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I don't think you actually found them easy i'm pretty sure they just died too fast to prove a threat if that's the shit you're pulling

real silo
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Me nohitting noxus (I killed him in 2 seconds)

plucky lichen
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hello gang

split mortar
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Its 1 am

inland beacon
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What is the astral infection

limpid saddle
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Usually an Astrum Deus is meant to eat the dead star before it's corpse can be affected by the Astral Infection, but the Astrum Deus we fight in-game somehow became infected, presumably by trying to consume a blighted star's corpse & became a puppet of it, hucking an asteroid composed of it at Terraria when the WOF dies

bleak escarp
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I no hit goozma first try when my 100+ summons killed him in less than 1 minute

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The animations were longer than the fight

limpid saddle
limpid saddle
spring helm
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i forgot what ascended spirit essence is

limpid saddle
sinful adder
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The way you get it isn't canon. It's godly essence

spring helm
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so like

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if you crack open WoF you'd find the stuff in it?

dusk laurel
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Refined god essence ig

spring helm
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has to be refined/improved, right?

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wait

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what's the purified gel slime god drops

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does that also have divine essence

dusk laurel
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Since ase is called ascendant ig it's above just being pure

spring helm
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ypu make a good point

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but it also be referring to the fact that gods ascended to become what they were

light linden
proud harbor
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who is like the true god in the lore? i mean the one that is behind the whole thing and isnt just an ascended human

rotund shore
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To our knowledge there is none

pliant ruin
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As far as we know the calamity universe dosen't have some omnipresent creator being who made it

late veldt
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Xeroc is like the most powerful one though. by miles

pliant ruin
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jane exomech...........

late veldt
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Jacob Mechboss

rotund shore
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Jeremiah robot

rotund shore
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What happens when god has a different definition then the irl one to some degree

sinful adder
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Well, I think like one other person asked this

timid lotus
sinful adder
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"nameless deity" isn't a calamity thing

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It's a completely different mod that people pretend is calamity for views

late veldt
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what if it was called camality mod

sinful adder
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What

timid lotus
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but still

late veldt
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what if it was called camality mod

sinful adder
# timid lotus its an addonn

It is not even really an addon. It has no relation to the real calamity mod except for being based on some old ideas

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It should not be part of the conversation at all

timid lotus
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i said "he's not canon"

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it is an addon because it's intended to be fought with calamity gear and has calamity things

sinful adder
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Ok yeah I guess but then why bring it up

outer wyvern
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ok, this is just for personal kicks, but what would be the "legendary sword" equivalent for the mod? like how the terra blade in base terraria is a symbol of the terrarian's adventure to quell both the light and darkness of terraria to bring balance back to the world. and no, the zenith doesn't count. that sword is representative of base terraria, not calamity.

sinful adder
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Oh, that's easy, the ark of the cosmos

outer wyvern
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then second question. why isn't the terrablade used anywhere in the crafting recipe? it feels wierd to me that the terrablade ultimately is just a stepping stone to the exoblade, which is just a draedon weapon. i mean, the ark of the elements, its unupgraded form, is said to be 'infused with the essence of terraria,' which is awesome, but isn't that what the terrablade represents as well?

sinful adder
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The exoblade is the other one

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There are two

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But it is a little weird

outer wyvern
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also, i don't want to list the exoblade as the other culmination weapon, becuase A: its associated with dreagon, who's not exactly someone you want to be associated with, and B: all but the miracle matter can be obtained immediately after moonlord, meaning for most of post moonlord, you aren't using the blades the exoblade is made up of. you just have them in your chests until you beat the exo bosses.

real silo
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exoblade (and the other miracle matter weapons) are not draedon related

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Draedon didn't make them

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You did 🫵

robust osprey
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miracle matter is terrarian's invention yes

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draedon gets a lil mad beacuse miracle matter is a shit name (for draedon)

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but he lets it slide beacuse you did it and you get to name it

outer wyvern
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I still feel like there should be an in-between of the terramere to the exoblade.

robust osprey
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well I dont really know about the exo blade crafting tree

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so cant give an opinion

outer wyvern
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also, I find it weird that almost all of the classes have at least one miracle matter weapon that uses the elemental weapons, which are all upgraded versions of their terra counterparts, EXCEPT for melee. what's up with that? in fact, why doesn't the ark of the elements incorporate the terra blade in any way?

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It just feels like the weapons are missing something in there crafting recipies.

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idk, i just like how weapon crafting trees can tell a story, and while all the other weapon classes get a fairly coherent one, the swords just don't.

robust osprey
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idk I almost inmediatly forget crafting trees once I get the thing I want

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byeah I can see ur point

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pretty sure they will add something like the zenith

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but like

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post yharim

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or something

outer wyvern
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also also: why does the exoblade not have flavor text? the ark of the cosmos has one, why doesn't it get one?

outer wyvern
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its supposed to look like the C on the title of the calamity mod. and is also made using the terramere, which DOES get flavor text.

glacial rampart
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I AM THE TRUE ULTIMATE LIFE FORM! THE TRUE SONIC !!!

outer wyvern
real silo
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Terra blade functions NOTHING like the arks

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Slapping it into AotE's recipe would be weird as hell

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Not every elemental weapon has to go into their exo upgrade

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And besides if you stuffed AotE into exoblade's recipe then you'd have to craft two of them

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One for aotc and one for exoblade

real silo
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You don't have to be a completionist to want both exoblade and aotc

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Imagine trying to craft exoblade and then you realize oh no I need aote

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Except you already used aote to craft aotc

outer wyvern
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I see it more as choosing which upgrade you want to go with. you're not supposed to use both

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but, again, this is ultimately pointless.

real silo
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ok but tell that to a new player who has no idea about the existence of exoblade

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It's just unnecessary

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terrablade is already bad enough being split between zenith and exoblade

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We don't need a THIRD final sword that uses it

outer wyvern
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but... but symbolism tho... calsad

mighty zenith
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you SHOULD use them both

outer wyvern
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oh

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well dang

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wasn't aware of that

mighty zenith
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exoblade is your reward for beating exos while ark is the weapon you can use to fight exos

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granted you can use both for scal but exoblade vastly outshines it (which makes sense)

outer wyvern
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...so... why not make the ark part of the exo crafting tree...? I know the weapon works completely differently, but...

real silo
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Symbolism means NOTHING

real silo
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They work completely differently

mighty zenith
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ark has a line that improves on the base throughout the entire game

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slapping it into exoblade would just remove that entire build up

outer wyvern
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ok... here me out... post s.cal weapon that combines the two.

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thoughts?

real silo
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That would be even worse

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it's like building up two gorgeous ass buildings and then you make them share a single crooked ass roof

random mulch
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honestly i think weapons that require both cal & exos to be defeated should be kept at a minimum

outer wyvern
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I agree.

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but... if I had to make any weapon have that requirement, it'd be a terra blade upgrade.

random mulch
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there's already a melee weapon that's post-scal & exos and it's an upgrade to the orderbringer

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and even then terrablade already has an upgrade in the form of the terratomere, which gets upgraded into the exoblade

outer wyvern
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ok. but its a terrablade sword. why not give it special treatment?

sinful adder
#

I personally think the exoblade should be removed and replaced with a different exo melee weapon

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Like an exo spear or flail or something

stoic gulch
sinful adder
#

The tera blade line should remain special in some way

real silo
#

Iridexcal is upgraded orderbringer?

outer wyvern
#

no

#

or wait yes

#

didn't realize abreviation

#

its really cheap though

#

just a straight a-b-c upgrade route.

real silo
#

that's not cheap

#

That's normal

#

Stinky

outer wyvern
#

compared to its melee compitition, its cheap

real silo
#

Well yea that's like comparing copper to diamonds

#

Aotc is The Weapon

#

You don't compete with it

outer wyvern
#

except the exoblade does. and comparing the two, exoblade, functionally, is way more boring.

real silo
#

Exactly

#

Even exoblade can't beat aotc

#

Because it just is The Weapon

outer wyvern
#

ok, how about a compromise: terra blade can be used to craft either the terramere, or the ark of the elements.

random mulch
#

ark of the elements in a completely unrelated line

open thunder
#

azafure is just the average action hero movie city

random mulch
#

wha

open thunder
#

||Azafure (what is known in the game as the brimstone crags) was the first city in the mod's lore iirc, the people treated the brimstone elemental as their deity (correct me in case im wrong)||

||eventually calamitas stopped by and fought the brimstone elemental, their battle destroying the city and killing the people||

#

some of these may be wrong, correct me in case

pliant ruin
#

basically everyone here is aware of this but i appreciate your consideration

#

i will correct you though in that last bit

random mulch
#

||calamitas didnt just "stop by" the city, she lived there||

pliant ruin
#

calamitas didnt stop by a fight the brimstone elemental

#

brimmy awokle and started destroying azafure

open thunder
pliant ruin
#

calamitas, trying to protect her family, fought back (she was still like, a child back then) and had a sudden burst of power which she couldn't control whcih resulted in the destruction of azafure and her own siblings

open thunder
#

it's more like godzilla vs kong than an action hero setting or something

pliant ruin
#

calamitas didn't really intentionally do it as your wording seems to have implied

#

though we still don't know what exactly

#

gave her that power

#

its likely smth to do with brimmy herself but other than that

#

we dont rly know

#

she was a normal child one second and then one second later she has uncontrollable power and is fighting a elemental while being completely out of it

open thunder
#

alr time for me to reread the lore, thanks for correcting me

pliant ruin
#

np

#

enjoy ur read

open thunder
#

ok now im getting to the good part
tbh ravager reminds me of the minotaur from ultrakill for some reason

#

ok i bet white dwarves would be a nice snack for someone like astrum deus

split mortar
#

Stars in calamity arent like irl stars if you didnt know

open thunder
#

and also fallen stars

split mortar
#

Aightio

wheat walrus
#

Me when the avengers destroy my entire city and hulk decides to throw my car in the middle of it 💔

magic epoch
#

this will have a negative effect on fishing season

proud harbor
split mortar
#

Goozma is a old af version of old lore noxus

Goozma is def not canon

#

Ancient lore

hexed skiff
#

Is Yharim a villain or friend to the player and who is he in general?

cloud ibex
#

up to you to decide

#

but in general he's an omega war criminal who despises gods

hexed skiff
#

Lisent idk a lot about the lore but i feel he just chill guy like me fr

magic epoch
#

he killed like 20% of the world's population

hexed skiff
#

But is he the most powerful in all bosses?

split mortar
hexed skiff
#

Is it that bad?

split mortar
magic epoch
#

most of the bosses you killed aren't very good so

#

no not really

split mortar
#

Slime god

hexed skiff
#

But wait how does that work

split mortar
#

Ravager and providence? Zombified mindless corpse attacking everytthing
Providence runs a doomsday suicide cult thing

split mortar
hexed skiff
hexed skiff
split mortar
hexed skiff
#

No like whats our goal in the lord?

split mortar
#

The terrarian is completely up to you

#

Theyre your character

#

-# except yiu suck at naming

magic epoch
#

is your character evil? are they good? are they just a fisherman?

hexed skiff
split mortar
#

You can be a drunk dumbass doing a bet

wheat walrus
#

internet died to make me not say "so true"

split mortar
# hexed skiff ??

Draedon calls out the terrarian for naming skeletron prime and miracle matter

hexed skiff
split mortar
#

Then thats canon

hexed skiff
#

So maybe im gluttony lol

#

😂😂.

#

But those that mean Yharim is bad?

#

I dont think so , maybe im worst then him u never know

magic epoch
#

he's trying to manipulate you into becoming yharim 2 and finish off the remaining gods iirc

split mortar
# hexed skiff Is it that bad?

Also no
Gods are just people who did the ascension ritual on a auric dragons soul, they can range from good or bad just as any other being

hexed skiff
#

#yharim_did_nothing_wrong

cloud ibex
#

he's generally regarded as being pretty bad yes

hexed skiff
#

#FREE_MYBOY LOL

cloud ibex
#

it's kinda hard for you to ever be worse than him considering he's responsible for hundreds of millions of deaths

split mortar
#

Yeah

#

And thats of people

#

While we kill mostly big animals

hexed skiff
#

The real question tho , why we cant fight him ?

magic epoch
magic epoch
hexed skiff
split mortar
magic epoch
#

he's very low priority and will likely be one of the final updates of calamity

split mortar
#

^

cloud ibex
#

and the whole reason he killed those hundreds of millions is that they all worshipped beings who, on completely separate occasions and under completely different circumstances, killed dragons

magic epoch
#

yharon propaganda

hexed skiff
split mortar
hexed skiff
split mortar
#

Who is above scal or exos

magic epoch
#

i think yharim is like... top 5 strongest characters in terms of like powerscaling

hexed skiff
cloud ibex
#

dragons who, for all we know, could have been equally as evil and fucked up as yharim wants you to think all the gods are

hexed skiff
#

Are they planning to add some other bosses?

split mortar
magic epoch
cloud ibex
#

or they could have been good

hexed skiff
#

I hate that worm

magic epoch
split mortar
#

jared:)

cloud ibex
#

yharim's problem is that he looks at dragons vs gods in a completely black and white way, where the dragons were all objectively good and the gods were all objectively evil

hexed skiff
#

Dragons are cool lol

cloud ibex
#

the world just doesn't work like that

#

there's nuance to it that he's completely ignoring

magic epoch
#

i think dragons, like gods, were on spectrums of good and evil
some were wholesome and some were fucked up and twisted

deft vessel
#

Indeed

split mortar
spring helm
#

I do think that the tendency of casual players to think Yharim is not bad is a symptom of the lack of easily accessible lore outside of his perspective

cloud ibex
#

that does indeed seem to be the way you're supposed to see it yes

hexed skiff
magic epoch
#

i preface everything with "I think" or "iirc" because i am clueless

spring helm
#

There’s the bestiary but it’s not in your face as the Yharim yap is

magic epoch
#

so I'm not entirely at fault when I say something wrong

split mortar
#

And eternal life (not really they died)

hexed skiff
cloud ibex
#

almost all the lore that isn't him talking is buried in the bestiary at the moment

patent rover
#

me when I'm manipulated by the guy who's trying to manipulate me

hexed skiff
#

If im in some magic world with end game weapon and crazy power

#

I would woop a whole nations

cloud ibex
#

next update when you get to see the remains of ilmeris it'll be easier to see just how deranged he is

hexed skiff
#

Not cuz i like dragons or someshit

#

Just cuz i can😂🙏

magic epoch
#

that's just like evil

#

straight up

sleek halo
#

Yharim is

#

a genocidial fucking maniac

#

Like actually delusional

hexed skiff
magic epoch
#

yharim underfell

sleek halo
#

who got his dream bailed out by sheer fucking luck 😭

split mortar
hexed skiff
#

When is the update?

split mortar
#

We will never know

#

They dont so release dates

hexed skiff
#

Sheesh bro calamity mod is one of the best

patent rover
#

yharim be like "yeah i poured so many corpses into the dungeon they formed a terrifying creature but Draedon, Draedon has no sense of morality whatsoever"

hexed skiff
#

So good that i feel its part of the original game

hexed skiff
#

Like the boss build up and lore etc

cloud ibex
#

he's not wrong

#

draedon does, in fact, not really have morals at all

split mortar
hexed skiff
cloud ibex
#

however saying that draedon is more evil than him? that'd be wrong

cloud ibex
split mortar
hexed skiff
#

I was hating him cuz of the lazer worm that shit was undodgeble😂

cloud ibex
#

he's a machine who focuses on scientific progress so he doesn't care about things like "ethics"

manic coral
#

Expecting Draedon to see things as "good" and "evil" is like expecting a wild bear to see things that way

patent rover
#

the way thanatos just massacres all of your npcs every time you fight exos lol

hexed skiff
split mortar
#

Better chances at a dolphin to be good then draedon

split mortar
#

No one does

#

Just when its ready is when it will be released

patent rover
#

sometime in the future

hexed skiff
cloud ibex
#

but it's also not like he completely disregards any of the consequences of his experimentations, he claims he could in theory fix the sulphurous sea once it's outlived its usefulness in his eyes

split mortar
manic coral
#

Draedon just fundamentally doesn't work in the same way other sapient beings too due to his nature as, well. A robot. He processes the world in a different way than other beings.

hexed skiff
#

Real question why draedon is one of end bosses?

split mortar
#

Draedon sees curing cancer and advancing nuclear physics to make better bombs the sams

spring helm
#

Testing his weapons.

split mortar
hexed skiff
#

I dont see it as like he deserve that placement after witch calamits

patent rover
split mortar
spring helm
#

The exo mechs and calamitas are the same tier

hexed skiff
spring helm
#

You can fight either first

hexed skiff
#

Ye

late veldt
manic coral
#

Draedon has changed the world far more than Calamitas has overall

cloud ibex
#

after Yharim basically fired him after the PBG thing he wasn't mad about it or anything, he's mostly confused cause he doesn't really get how people work and therefore can't quite grasp why the enslavement of animals would make Yharim mad

spring helm
#

Also shows that science and magic are both able to keep up with each other even at the highest levels possible for mortals

manic coral
#

His technology basically took the world from early industrial revolution level tech to stuff beyond what we can do in real life

hexed skiff
#

So u tell me with only robots stuff he top 5 most powerful beings in lore?

manic coral
#

And is constantly progressing

#

In terms of all scientific fields and his knowledge

split mortar
hexed skiff
#

Damn bro draedon is HIM

split mortar
#

Not even yharim can kill him

late veldt
hexed skiff
#

Only tech and solo everyone

cloud ibex
#

draedon is the goat

spring helm
split mortar
#

Draedon is almost as immortal as the elementals

cloud ibex
#

i've been sayin this

patent rover
#

my headcanon is draedon saw you beat the original mechs and that's when he decided he wanted to build the exos

hexed skiff
cloud ibex
#

weren't the exos designed to fight yharim

patent rover
split mortar
patent rover
#

yeah that's probably what happened

split mortar
#

But he finished them either during or not that long before the game

hexed skiff
patent rover
#

but it's funnier to think he just threw them together from scratch

manic coral
#

They were not done when the game started

patent rover
#

in that time span

wheat walrus
hexed skiff
manic coral
#

You fight them when they are done

split mortar
hexed skiff
#

I feel Yharim should be like the player kinda

split mortar
#

Kick

wheat walrus
split mortar
#

melee

manic coral
#

Yharim is just built differently

hexed skiff
#

He have some crazy abilitys

split mortar
#

Stab

wheat walrus
#

also electricity thing but cooler

patent rover
#

iirc yharon bestowed some of his powers to yharim?

mighty zenith
spring helm
#

You call Draedon after finishing the code breaker and Draedon goes
“What a coincidence! Fight my mechs right now!”

split mortar
manic coral
#

Hi garbo :D

split mortar
#

He is just

BUFF

mighty zenith
#

haii

cloud ibex
#

gorbo

hexed skiff
manic coral
#

He is not really built differently

#

But still got as strong as he is regardless

split mortar
spring helm
#

Yharim has hands

mighty zenith
#

yharim shouldn't be basically a copy of the player

#

cause uhh

#

that would suck

#

as a fight

split mortar
#

Yharim is just
So string he can bench press a mountain or something

wheat walrus
hexed skiff
patent rover
#

is it not because of how yharon saved him in the underworld?

spring helm
#

That’s about it really the dude has no hax other than the auric rejection which is a burst of electricity

mighty zenith
#

its a cool idea but making that a fight it would be incredibly bullshit

split mortar
hexed skiff
#

Like its : most powerful being of today (you) vs most poweful being of history lol

#

Gojo vs sukuna type of fight

spring helm
#

That would be Xeroc

split mortar
manic coral
#

To be fair

#

The sun isn't like you might think it is

patent rover
#

it is implied that there are many more much more powerful beings in the universe

spring helm
#

Cei

wheat walrus
split mortar
#

He is just

#

BEYOND us

late veldt
#

The sune is alive‼️‼️‼️‼️⁉️

spring helm
#

If Yharim was biologically immortal and also had 800 years to train would he be as strong as Xeroc?

spring helm
#

Or is the gap due to ascension insurmountable

mighty zenith
#

what if yharim was batman

hexed skiff
#

How tf is he beyond us

manic coral
#

Man there's something involving Yharim powerset I can't wait to talk about

spring helm
#

In 5 years

mighty zenith
split mortar
patent rover
#

the power gap is like. yharim is the most powerful being on terraria but he's just an insignificant bug from xeroc's perspective

#

that's my understanding

wheat walrus
hexed skiff
manic coral
#

Xeroc was already even if not as strong as Yharim, at least on a vaguely relative tier to Yharim BEFORE his ascension

wheat walrus
hexed skiff
#

Still winning tho

spring helm
manic coral
#

No

mighty zenith
#

yhalick gun?

wheat walrus
mighty zenith
#

sorry

#

yhalick yhun

manic coral
#

More specifically a lack of something

late veldt
#

I mean couldn't Yharim at least dodge a couple hits before getting instantly fucking evicerated?

manic coral
patent rover
#

no contact damage

hexed skiff
#

So we are nothing to xenox?

manic coral
#

Strong than Yharon? Could go either way tbh

wheat walrus
split mortar
spring helm
late veldt
manic coral
#

Xeroc got so train with some of the most power entities to ever exist in the world yeah

hexed skiff
#

Wait

manic coral
#

Xeroc

hexed skiff
#

So they are multiple?

manic coral
#

No

late veldt
#

No just nonbinary

split mortar
spring helm
#

Still holding on to the headcanon that the Distortion is the Eternal Night that Primordial Light banishes, so the reason why Xeroc hasn’t killed Noxus yet is because the two literally cannot exist in the same place

hexed skiff
#

Isnt he out of that world

split mortar
late veldt
patent rover
mighty zenith
#

DoG isnt that destructive in the grand scheme of things

split mortar
#

And also not that big of a threat compared to noxus

mighty zenith
#

compared to like, moon lord and especially noxus

hexed skiff
manic coral
#

Is he though

mighty zenith
#

more like fraud

hexed skiff
#

Lebron james of calamity 100%

wheat walrus
#

I have a theory that Yharim, with auric soul energy, would be able to create a sort of imitation of a dragon (or maybe even god) ability but it'd be extremely hard (both because it would require knowledge about what you're trying to imitate and a lot of power too) and would only be used for 1-off stunts at most

patent rover
#

DoG has the ego of as if he was as powerful as xeroc

hexed skiff
spring helm
#

Providence and her Guardians could probably jump DoG so he’s not that big a deal in the grand scheme of things

split mortar
#

^

mighty zenith
#

DoG's strong but he's a bitch and i dont like him

late veldt
#

DoG is the best character because he's so edgy but would get folded in half by so much shit

hexed skiff
#

😂.

split mortar
#

dog is fun

But god damn they aint that much a threat to the entire planet

manic coral
#

The Devourer was as strong as Yharim at one point but then he slowly started to get outclassed by him and then Draedon's machines and Yharon got stronger too, AND THEN Calamitas showed up and was stronger

wheat walrus
#

DoG is strong and actually devours gods but for how much he talks he's a bit of a fraud

manic coral
#

But he still acts like he's arguably the strongest bitch around

hexed skiff
#

I would like if there are liek calamity mod 2

patent rover
manic coral
#

He still acts like he is on Yharim's level when Yharim has definitely surpassed him at this point

wheat walrus
hexed skiff
#

After u finish with normal world u travel to multivers to fight the real lords

#

That would be cool

manic coral
wheat walrus
hexed skiff
split mortar
split mortar
late veldt
manic coral
#

There is nothing a calamity two COULD be about realistically that makes sense

spring helm
hexed skiff
#

No reason just my character decide : fuck ima jump all the gods lol

manic coral
#

But why

dusk laurel
split mortar
#

The secknd strongest is below scal

patent rover
#

calamity 2 would be playing as yharim imo

manic coral
#

And also that forces a certain characterization so just like

#

Idk

dusk laurel
#

Yharim would be dead

late veldt
#

Calamity 3 revenge of the sith

spring helm
#

Calamity 4, invasion of the jovians

hexed skiff
dusk laurel
hexed skiff
#

The disciple of xenoc

manic coral
#

I'd far rather write for something new than a calamity 2

split mortar
hexed skiff
late veldt
#

calamity 2 should be a completely unrelated farming sim

manic coral
hexed skiff
split mortar
split mortar
patent rover
#

yharim is like. very mortal

#

right?

split mortar
#

Just 130

late veldt
split mortar
dusk laurel
manic coral
#

You might get some sort of side media from me at most like I wouldn't be opposed to a comic or something if that ever happened

wheat walrus
#

Yharim has an extended lifespan but he's not immortal

split mortar
#

Thats draedon and the elementals

hexed skiff
#

Ez story line for calamity 2

manic coral
#

WHAT disciples

late veldt
#

Yharim vs Ant with a Gun who wins

hexed skiff
split mortar
#

Yharim would have already waged a war and maybe died if there were disciples

hexed skiff
#

U developper its not that hard

#

😂😂😂🙏.

late veldt
#

Calamity fandom hdflr

hexed skiff
split mortar
#

Xeroc is the very thing he wants to kill

He would have yolo’d it at xerocs disciples if there were discoples

manic coral
#

I am ready to say the hakita quote right now

wheat walrus
#

The only things that are truly immortal would be Yharon (through Rebirth) and the Elementals, Yharon can be absorbed if you know how to do it (you most likely can't as no one is there to tell you how to do that), and Elementals can only be destroyed if you destroy all their elements represent last I checked.

Draedon is on a similar page due to having basically the Calamity equivalent of Roblox alt accounts.

split mortar
manic coral
#

No

late veldt
#

I respect the self restraint but I disagree with its application here

patent rover
#

yharim vs one billion lions

split mortar
dusk laurel
late veldt
manic coral
#

Yeah was gonna say

wheat walrus
hexed skiff
# manic coral WHAT disciples

U could say : xenoc feels the danger from the player cuz he or (we) travel to other univers to collect the outer power and he create other disciples that have one mission is to kill the player

#

Im telling you bro WE NEED CALAMITY 2

manic coral
#

Why would they feel the danger from the player

#

What danger

late veldt
patent rover
#

CALAMITY 1 ISN'T EVEN FINISHED YET 😭

late veldt
#

yeah I was about to say

split mortar
#

Xeroc is the strongest being possible iirc

hexed skiff
manic coral
#

Xeroc is so chill relatively that people joke about them being a stoner

hexed skiff
late veldt
hexed skiff
#

😂.

manic coral
#

Xeroc response to you getting stronger than them assuming that ever happened somehow would basically be

split mortar
cloud ibex
#

shimmering golden dragon wings or something for certain attacks could go pretty hard

late veldt
#

This guy has to be a troll ngl

manic coral
#

"neat I guess, anyways I'm going back to what I was doing"

hexed skiff
cloud ibex
hexed skiff
#

And come back clap xenoc

wheat walrus
patent rover
#

the r and n keys aren't even close to each other

hexed skiff
late veldt
#

there's a quotes channel?

hexed skiff
#

Okay guys beside jokes

split mortar
hexed skiff
#

Calamity is very cool

late veldt
#

how many Yharims could kill a xeroc

manic coral
#

Idk I think it's lame :/

manic coral
hexed skiff
#

I dont understand it very much but my brain see more damage more weapon and goes brrrr brrrr

split mortar
manic coral
#

40

wheat walrus
patent rover
#

i feel like they'd just fight each other and accomplish nothing

manic coral
#

I think 40 Yharim's could overwhelm Xeroc

split mortar
manic coral
#

Assuming perfect coordination

spring helm
#

We are Yharim scaling that’s crazy

hexed skiff
spring helm
#

Also

late veldt
#

wait a minute so a playthrough with 40-60 players... HDfailure

mighty zenith
#

1 billion yharims vs goku

spring helm
#

Cei this is one of the few times I will have to veto you

manic coral
#

Goku

spring helm
#

It’s not 40

#

Just 1

manic coral
#

Is this even a question

cloud ibex
#

idk man that's a lot of yharims

mighty zenith
#

true

manic coral
#

So true actually

late veldt
cloud ibex
#

if 30 billion spongebobs can beat goku i think a billion yharims is enough

hexed skiff
#

10 providence vs 1 yharim?

manic coral
#

Don't compare me to him

#

.

#

I'm nothing like Elon Musk

late veldt
#

I meant the president as a position in general

#

but also apologies

hexed skiff
#

Wo guys what about nameless diety

manic coral
#

It's fine I was shitting around :p

hexed skiff
thick slate
#

me

split mortar
late veldt
#

ah :3

manic coral
#

One is just a sun god the other throws a black hole at you

split mortar
patent rover
#

isn't nameless deity Wrath of the Gods' interpretation of xeroc?

hexed skiff
late veldt
#

the strongest individual in calamity is actually John Wulfrum Jr

hexed skiff
#

I told you im HIM

mighty zenith
patent rover
#

ah fair enough

split mortar
mighty zenith
#

it started from old concepts of Xeroc but is now its own character

manic coral
#

Loosely based on old lore is the way to put it yesh

hexed skiff
manic coral
#

Very much became it's own thing though

split mortar
mighty zenith
#

same thing is happening with Noxus (also being renamed to Avatar of Emptiness) from Wrath

hexed skiff
#

Bro im kinda getting mad

#

Why we cant be top 1 on the game

late veldt
#

so like is xeroc person sized still? I thought of them as like a giant fucker when reading embers

hexed skiff
#

Why always they are random god who stronger

mighty zenith
#

wow almost like a creator god would be uhh

#

omnipotent

#

or something

late veldt
patent rover
#

because we're just a little goober

late veldt
hexed skiff
#

😔💔.