#lore-discussion

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manic coral
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idk i found it randomly one day

indigo glade
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I'll turn you into a soup.

split mortar
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Water isnt wet
Waters is wet

zinc spire
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bruh

split mortar
dusk laurel
zinc spire
cloud ibex
manic coral
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i also have this

spare pier
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Byeah sometimes I just wake up and think of random fucking facts for Cal stuff

manic coral
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ok toriyama

spare pier
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Hey

dusk laurel
spare pier
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Y'know it's funny how a big reason as to why I was feeling demotivated to write was because

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I couldn't think of how to satisfyingly end the Sunken Sea's plotline

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And then I did and now I'm pumped again

split mortar
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Can we throw someone into a bonfire pls

spare pier
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what

languid badge
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I volunteer as tribute

dusk laurel
split mortar
dusk laurel
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How about we throw you in there

split mortar
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Weboohoo

spare pier
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There needs to be some sort of scene

manic coral
spare pier
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And that's REALLY HARD in Terraria because cutscenes are a nono

manic coral
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we'll throw you in

spare pier
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And dialogue is just

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Lol

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Lmao

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So how do I make a cool scene in this game?

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Well, I figured that out

split mortar
indigo glade
spare pier
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God this really is just

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My ultimate test

split mortar
indigo glade
split mortar
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:(

dusk laurel
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I think the general group of people actually interested in the lore would like it

spare pier
dusk laurel
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As for anyone who vehemently dislikes Cal lore, idk

spare pier
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Like, I don't have anything properly published

split mortar
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Oh
Seems like youre doing quite well so far

spare pier
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This is the first thing I can trully call my project

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And it's an overarching narrative

dusk laurel
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How much world building could you reasonably cram in (like structures and other non-text stuff)

split mortar
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Ima so goep bye

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dusk laurel
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Shoo

split mortar
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Yeah bye

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Goodnight

spare pier
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I'm obviously not any kind of director for SSO

manic coral
spare pier
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I'm mostly just behind writing the main narrative of it

manic coral
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ye

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meanwhile im writier more general stuff

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and figuring shit out in terms of handling stuff

spare pier
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Though I'm also writing moreso the character part of it

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Stip is the worldbuilding guy

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But I want to do my part too

magic epoch
indigo glade
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Melon Gun is a big idiot.

wheat walrus
dusk laurel
indigo glade
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Wow.

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They truly are asleep.

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For once.

wheat walrus
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💔

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I shat on the Braelor thing hard enough to basically kill it but you're no better

split mortar
dusk laurel
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.

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Dude, get some sleep, it's past midnight for you

split mortar
dusk laurel
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Why would you go on your phone again sob

indigo glade
split mortar
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Might as well

dusk laurel
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That's like the most counterintuitive thing to do

split mortar
dusk laurel
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No but you're clearly on your phone

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Which well, doesn't help you sleep per say

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It's like scratching an open wound

split mortar
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Eh you making no sense bye again

Fuck you amethyst explode >:(

dusk laurel
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:/

wheat walrus
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also since I wanna be fair, I have criticized th yharim yharon guy but this developer is also breaking rules mods do something 💔

wheat walrus
wheat walrus
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daily omni chat reviewing I think is complete 🙏

light linden
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what the hell have I come back to

dusk laurel
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This is less severe

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Actually this is really normal

late veldt
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John Wulfrum ‼️

rotund shore
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chat I wanna double check, yharim and yharons names are like based on a dark souls thing right

rotund shore
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gotcha

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ive literally never played a fromsoft game so shows what I know

wheat walrus
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iirc yharim is yharnam but distorted, yharon should be yharim + dragon but I can't confirm this myself

late veldt
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thats not even the obvious one! someone had to put more brainpower in to come up with a worse insult. or they were 11 and didn't know actually that could be the case

dusk laurel
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Unreal

indigo glade
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You could say its a...

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Distortion.

dusk laurel
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Summons the Reverberation Ensemble

late veldt
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Capable of feeling paranoid about dying during a fight to the death

light linden
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y'all think there was a dragon that lived in hell?

dusk laurel
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Uhhh

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My lips are sealed

pliant ruin
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trge dragon of flame in question

dusk laurel
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me when smth smth boney serpents homer the profanities

light linden
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I could see that but there's also a volcanic continent

dusk laurel
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The nefarious, not so leaked lore in question

wheat walrus
pliant ruin
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yes

dusk laurel
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Quite abnormal one could say

wheat walrus
pliant ruin
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like an abnormality

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holy shittt

dusk laurel
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Nothing's there

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Idk what you're seeing Cheese

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There's just a lot of red mist

wheat walrus
# wheat walrus Yea, the rabbit hole is deeper than I thought

I remember seeing Cheese go as "Sancho" in a server, then I saw the same exact name appear as my friend's MHWilds palico name, I thought it was some food unironically but after searching, I found a soccer/football player, a bunch of restaurants, and Limbus Company, and that's where it clicked

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This is silently but surely gonna become like Among Us

cosmic zenith
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That moment when there wasn't a single thing I wrote ingame by that point, probably

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Brazil (woke)

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Adam tweaking as God created Eve (Eden was consumed by woke)

lusty grove
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BRAZIL

plucky lichen
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brazil is pretty cool

lusty grove
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Not true i live there it sucks

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It can have cool people though

plucky lichen
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does it have good food

cosmic zenith
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You're soup

plucky lichen
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all that matters

lusty grove
lusty grove
plucky lichen
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i tried it, very tasty 10/10

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i like my soup extra seasoned

late veldt
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cool pfp

plucky lichen
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whose

late veldt
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thee

plucky lichen
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theres lots of cool pfps

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me?

late veldt
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correct

plucky lichen
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oh thank you!!!! I drew it myself

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kitty cat

late veldt
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niceee

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I wish I could art

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Or even the arts for that matter

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best art skill is writing but every time I come up with a cool writing project I drop it too soon after

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I've had two for this place so far, but I doubt I'd even start the second one

violet sparrow
late veldt
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art takes dedication and that is something I lack

dusk laurel
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Mrrp coming in for the kill

plucky lichen
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I love to write but i rarely have motivation

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Been wanting to write about my pokemon mystery dungeon guys but all i have is a scrapbook of ideas

pliant ruin
plucky lichen
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Been taking the creative writng classes in school though

real silo
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Providence
Prominence
Proponence
Province

plucky lichen
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hopefull willl help

real silo
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🔥

late veldt
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Prominence does work

dusk laurel
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The Province of Profaned Defender Guardian

plucky lichen
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Aro/ace rep in media??? Rare occurance!!!!

real silo
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It's like adding midas prime to ultrakill when it already has minos prime

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Also I don't even know what proponence means

pastel gazelle
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prominence is how prominent something is, or it can refer to the brightness of a flame. Proponence isn't a word, but proponents are people who support something.

real silo
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Province is the best

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Province is like providence mini

pastel gazelle
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Provenance is another similar word. I'm trying to think of others and just keep getting stuck on "probity".

late veldt
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The names should be John Mikail and Herbert

real silo
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proficience

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Wedidit

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vidence
minence
venance
ficience

late veldt
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Projection Prolong Pronoun

plucky lichen
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You could base their names off of the different types of greek loves? I think thats what it is, maybe its mentioned in the bible too? I noticed how you were talking about the relationships to providence that each of the guardians and your description of the cleric sounded cool and naming them after how they "love" providence in a way would be a cool yet subtle way of showing the player how each the guardians feel about their goddess.

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heres all the different types of loves pasted from an article
Eros (sexual passion)
Philia (deep friendship)
Ludus (playful love)
Agape (love for everyone)
Pragma (longstanding love)
Philautia (love of the self)
Storge (family love)
Mania (obsessive love)

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maybeee not accurate since i didnt dig super deep but im pretty sure this is somewhat true

real silo
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Mouth agape

spring helm
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i am still a fan of Blossom, Bubbles, and Buttercup, but that's obviously a reference so i understand that it cannot be used

pastel gazelle
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I think the four types of love were eros, philia, storge, and agape? Philautia is a conjunction, mania is just obsessive energy, and "ludus" just means "game".

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I dunno what pragma is or what it's doing in there but it doesn't belong. Whatever article you found is... confused.

plucky lichen
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still think it would be cool names

pastel gazelle
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This includes philautia, and also xenia, which is sacred hospitality. I'm not sure why it's on this page, though.

plucky lichen
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ohh alright

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not a super expert on greek words for love unfortunately

pastel gazelle
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Mania and ludus aren't about love. They're just... words.

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Probably the same for "pragma".

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you could name them Logos, Ethos, and Pathos, I suppose.

plucky lichen
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oooh that would be cool

pastel gazelle
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Probably not a good idea, but you could.

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a substantially worse idea would be naming them Huey, Dewey, and Louie.

dusk laurel
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I feel like since Chrysadia already exists for Greek names, you could go to another language for names

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Like how Shakidou is Sumerian [iirc] in origin

real silo
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Make providence arabic

dusk laurel
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Based

violet sparrow
dusk laurel
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The planet shall be baked alhamdullilah

dusk laurel
violet sparrow
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you know carmen's viewpoint rings true in this day and age

eager bluff
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had brainrot

late veldt
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if arsenal T1 was for lab personnel and T2 was the standard issue for Yharims troops, what was T3 for?

eager bluff
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godseeker knights iirc

indigo glade
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"As rank progresses, so often does the lethality of equipment." From Jungle's Schematic.

patent rover
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how long has the vernal pass been abandoned?

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because those fairies in the jars... ;-;

light linden
late veldt
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talking about the armor here

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I should have clarified

indigo glade
late veldt
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yeah

light linden
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oh the armor yeah

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I'm not sure if the t1 was for the lab personnel

plucky juniper
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What do Auric Souls look like? Do they roughly look like what's shown in that one Goozma mod?

pliant ruin
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we don't know

plucky juniper
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honestly I’m just gonna assume they look like the goozma mod auric souls cause those look cool as fuck

split mortar
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Same

pastel gazelle
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Help. I have other writing projects I need to do. But some tiny part of me is tempted to write a fic about Permafrost and Calamitas shortly after the Burning of Azafure, partially so I can sneak in a reference to her not being used to refrigeration-preserved meats and only eating it canned as part of my quest to get my stupid headcanon to spread.

trail sable
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oh boy time to back read to see what happened in Lore chat

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tbh it would be neat to see more human-like knight bosses, I just feel Melee gets under represented a bit-

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Knight designs can be so cool, and imagine a boss that uses the Godslayer armor or something

cloud ibex
olive schooner
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polter too

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idk if melee but ye

trail sable
split mortar
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He just kicks your knee caps backwards

trail sable
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either him or calamitas will yeah

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the tiny homeless orphan in question btw: calsad

trail sable
split mortar
trail sable
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idk why i bully the short people-

split mortar
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Like half the long term regulars are short

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In lore chat

trail sable
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I know it's great

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my dad's genes came through for me, and I'm so happy it did

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it allows me to also make fun of my gf cause she's 5'4 as well

split mortar
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Lmao

trail sable
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that also means I know exactly the type of shit a short person trying to act taller would act

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tbh I wanna make Calamitas' robes irl because they're probably my favorite designed

split mortar
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Her robes are pretty cool

trail sable
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is there any offical Calamitas art? I don't trust the internet search enough to look

split mortar
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iirc draedons recon drone in the exos fight is like 4.5 metres tall

split mortar
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Not lore doc

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Concept art doc maybe?

split mortar
cloud ibex
trail sable
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damn who drew that, that's incredible holy shit-

cloud ibex
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that would be nitro

trail sable
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actually her robes do seem quick easy, it's the armor that would be difficult tho, i can't tell if their connected or not

cloud ibex
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(person also behind the yharon redesign coming Eventually

trail sable
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like are those rings on her arm fabic or metal? seeing as there's no stretching on them i'm thinking metal

cloud ibex
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seems metal esque

trail sable
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I think it is metal, which for a design like that makes sense, it because I imagine you don't want the sleeves loose all the way

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probably keep it loose for the forearms for casting and shit, but above that would kill any insulation

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man imagine her brushing her hair with those horns, that would be so annoying

cloud ibex
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yea i can imagine that

trail sable
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so a golden-yellowish fabric for the cuffs and everything, inner liner could be a dark reddish-brown, with ofc crimson red for the outer liner

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I could probably find something like those rings and spray paint them golden

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again, is the armor apart of the outfit or is it just over the outfit?

split mortar
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Not sure so i cant help calsad

trail sable
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also she wears thigh high boots
1 that'll be a pain to recreate
2 100% expected them to be platformers ngl

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I could probably find similar boots then use polyester to make the metal, or just say fuck it and make it actually metal

real silo
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Demonshade?

split mortar
trail sable
# cloud ibex

idk if it's armor or fabric because there's no color, but stuff like at her torso and the boots looks like ornated armor and armored boots

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like genuinely I am curious on how her clothing design is

real silo
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Looks like cloth imo

trail sable
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the art is baller as fuck tho

real silo
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The boots are funky

trail sable
split mortar
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Boots def metal

trail sable
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tbh i'll probably make them be the classic adventurer boots with just that metal design

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besides maybe the shin guard, it isn't too complicated

real silo
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Would post an example but haha no image perms

trail sable
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yeah lmao

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shit i should make a magic collage for Permafrost

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think he'd like that? being able to teach more people magic?

split mortar
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The what if providence won that cei wrote makes me wonder

Is there other super versions of elements like the undying flame for fire?

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And if so, are they related to primordial light like the undying flame

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(The document is called embers for those who dont know)

real silo
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Is the undying flame related to primordial light

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I forgor

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primordial water is just freshwater

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🔥

split mortar
real silo
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thumby

half copper
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So I’m just getting familiar with the lore so you as a character is it the same kinda purpose as vanilla where you where put on the world to kill moon lord but in this storyline your here to kill a mad sorceress

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Bc when I was looking at the lore it describes the bosses origins yes but it the world doesn’t even say why your even chasing down these bosses

spare pier
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That's for you to decide

half copper
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Kinda disappointed most games do the “up to to decide your purpose” and while I like that approach just seems pointless killing the bosses if you don’t really have a purpose

spare pier
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Then make it :p

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At the end of the day it wasn't our choice anyways, Terraria has a character creator and a comical amount of customization

half copper
spare pier
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Thanks :D

pliant ruin
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She's one of the few bosses you don't kill in fact

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the other two being Draedon and Astrum Deus

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Although Deus's fight dosen't convey that ingame atm

half copper
pliant ruin
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It does though

stoic gulch
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Like she thinks you’ll become the next yharimn or sum

pliant ruin
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Calamitas is fighting you because you were following a path which to her hit too close to home regarding Yharim

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She wants to stop Yharim 2 from happening before it even starts

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However after the fight she more or less calms down and realizes she's being impulsive and goes "yeah nvm"

half copper
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thats what I was trying to understand but I don’t think the story conveys it too well unless you look real closely at it

pliant ruin
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Well yeah the ingame dialogue is outdated and the mod is highly unfinished

half copper
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So all the bosses are more a less just gods your killing for no reason

pliant ruin
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Only a few of the bosses are gods

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Like, three of them

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And most of the bosses you have a uh

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pretty good reason to kill

half copper
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Still doesn’t explain why your on the journey to kill all these bosses

stoic gulch
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Slime gods, providence and torch god!!

pliant ruin
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As reb said

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Up to you

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The character is a blank slate

stoic gulch
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Guh

pliant ruin
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You make up that explanation

stoic gulch
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I

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Image

half copper
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With moon lord at least your killing these bosses as they are creations by moon lord

stoic gulch
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I can send it

mighty zenith
stoic gulch
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Guh

pliant ruin
pliant ruin
half copper
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Dog isn’t a god?

stoic gulch
stoic gulch
pliant ruin
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Or whatever little "lore" terraria has

stoic gulch
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God of eating stuff

half copper
pliant ruin
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Devourer is not a god no

stoic gulch
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God of eating gods

crystal pendant
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devourer is a big stinky worm

pliant ruin
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The bosses being ML's creations

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They aren't

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Even in vanilla

stoic gulch
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Devourer is a good boy

mighty zenith
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and even that

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them being moon lord's creations doesn't explain why you're fighting them

pliant ruin
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yeah

half copper
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The mech bosses are eye of Cthulhu is

gritty kraken
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I’m killing aquatic scourge because I hate nature

pliant ruin
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The mech bosses are made by the engineer or whatever shes called

gritty kraken
mighty zenith
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mechanic

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smh

half copper
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Pretty sure the wall of flesh is as well

gritty kraken
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He doesn’t know

pliant ruin
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mechanic

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yeah

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that one

gritty kraken
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oh right vanilla

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Mechanic

stoic gulch
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You hate aquatic scourge and needs to kill that demon

mighty zenith
gritty kraken
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Forced by cultist

mighty zenith
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wall is like

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an ancient guardian

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with no connection to moon lord

half copper
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Ok well maybe I’m just comfused

spare pier
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Even EoC and BoC aren't exactly made by the Moon Lord

pliant ruin
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There's a pretty easy way to find a explanation for why your terrarian kills most bosses given most of them are evil or destructive as fuck

spare pier
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They just are things that exist due to the fact that he got fucked

half copper
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Either way the main story at least gives you a reason to fight most of the bosses

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And that was my point

gritty kraken
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That red joke where he said guide is moonlord son

pliant ruin
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There isn't a main story in terrarai

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The reason you fight bosses is because they give you cool loot

pliant ruin
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So this comparison is pretty bad respectfully

spare pier
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And Golem

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And Wall of Flesh

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And Queen Bee

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And Skeletron

pliant ruin
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DUke fishron

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my worst enemy

mighty zenith
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vanilla lore is an afterthought of things relogic thought were cool

half copper
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Bc they are evil?

spare pier
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And Duke Fishron yeah

pliant ruin
spare pier
gritty kraken
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There was a theory about golem brainwashing and controlling the lizhard but anyway

spare pier
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Because, I don't know if it's just me

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But the elemental that burned Azafure sounds pretty evil

pliant ruin
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I think ms omnicide kill all life might not be a good person

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just a hunch

spare pier
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The guy who goes around eating Gods is also evil

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The spirit amalgamate of thousands of people probably is too

pliant ruin
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Ravager probably isn't what i'd call evil but it's destructive enough where it's better to kill it

spare pier
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Anyways you get the point

pliant ruin
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You're putting it out of it's misery at that point

half copper
pliant ruin
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He's a fully sapient being who takes delight in killing his victims

spare pier
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Earth is Galactus' food HDfailure

pliant ruin
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Also he probably don't need to eat ill be fr

gritty kraken
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Why did DoG eat gods and not bombo bananas is he evil

pliant ruin
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Idfk what's going on with distortion worm anatomy but i have a hunch he probably dosen't need to eat

mighty zenith
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he literally called himself Devourer of Gods because he's an evil and pretentious dickhead

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either he doesnt need to eat or he's super selective about only eating gods for selfish reasons

gritty kraken
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Def not working for someone

spare pier
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Honestly I just thought and I kinda want to go around and change the kill message for each major Post ML Boss to be

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Just their title

pliant ruin
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ravager has ravaged

spare pier
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The Profaned Goddess, the Nameless Serpent, the Dragon of Rebirth, the Brimstone Witch

mighty zenith
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the old duke has been old juked

spare pier
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And then I have no fucking idea what to do about Draedon hdflr

pliant ruin
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Cryptic Inventor?

spare pier
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No the problem is that

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He doesn't have a defeat message

mighty zenith
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yeah

pliant ruin
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Ah.

mighty zenith
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the exos do

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individually

spare pier
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Every Exo Mech individually has one

mighty zenith
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actually dont they have their own titles?

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hol on

gritty kraken
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the hunters has been defeated something something

spare pier
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I don't think so

cloud ibex
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in infernum they do i think

mighty zenith
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oh nvm they dont

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yeah its infernum

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i thought they did in the introductions draedon gives you

cloud ibex
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in base cal it's just general descriptions when choosing who to start with

pliant ruin
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Thanatos - Ultimate Defender
Twins - Ultimate Artillerists
Ares - Ultimate Bruiser??

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Actually nvm

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just read they don't have their own titles

mighty zenith
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Thanatos - Serpentine Terror
Ares - Diabolical Monstrosity
Twins - Persistent Automatons

spare pier
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I saw Max0r's SotE video and I was like

mighty zenith
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(i kinda like thanatos but the rest are uhhhhhh)

pliant ruin
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Serpentine Terror feels too vague to be honest

spare pier
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FUCK I WANT CUSTOM KILL MESSAGES

pliant ruin
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Like it can apply to basically any worm boss

mighty zenith
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true

eager bluff
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twins are the only one with some kind of restriction and even then thats just because it outright states they're robots

spare pier
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On another note after playing Elden Ring's DLC I just decided that I might as well go full on Bayle for Old Duke

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It fits surprisingly well considering some other stuff we have

mighty zenith
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i wanna get into fromsoft games but i also like to have fun in games

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so idk

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:P

spare pier
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People exaggerate their difficulty to a comical degree

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They aren't any harder than Cal is

mighty zenith
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hm

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do i just start with DS1?

spare pier
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Depends hdflr

stoic gulch
spare pier
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I think there are only two good games for entry

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DS1 or Elden Ring

cloud ibex
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man the twins are kinda hard to think of a good title for

cloud ibex
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:D

spare pier
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All-seeing hunters

mighty zenith
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Hawk-eyed Tuains

cloud ibex
spare pier
cloud ibex
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if that's true then yea the difficulty of this series must be overblown as hell

spare pier
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The game with a completely different gameplay

mighty zenith
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probably gonna go with DS1 then

spare pier
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Is the harder for people used to the other one HDfailure

cloud ibex
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cause i'm at the very end rn and it really hasn't been that hard

eager bluff
spare pier
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I think the only actual argument for Sekiro being the hardest is that the lack of build making stops you from easily cheesing stuff

cloud ibex
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yeah sure i haven't gotten to the glock saint or man with anger issues yet but the only real wall so far as been lady butterfly because i hadn't gotten a good grip on the game's flow yet

cloud ibex
#

don't say that

mighty zenith
spare pier
#

If you're hardstuck in DS1 you can just

eager bluff
spare pier
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Wear Havel Armor

mighty zenith
#

im gonna have to warn tuah you for that one jacob....

spare pier
#

Ok explode

mighty zenith
#

😭

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im sorry

spare pier
#

Sekiro you need to do some comical shit to actually cheese stuff

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But from a baseline gameplay Sekiro is just

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As hard as any other game

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People just say it's the hardest because the knowledge from other games doesn't transfer to it

cloud ibex
spare pier
#

The hardest Souls game in your opinion will always be the first

spare pier
cloud ibex
#

like is it janking out false monk to get a free stealth deathblow at the very start of the fight or is it nuking the headless ape's wife at the start of the game with firecrackers

mighty zenith
#

these sure are words im reading

spare pier
#

Demon of Hatred is fucked

sleek halo
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(i really enjoyed that game lol)

cloud ibex
#

the latter i agree is definitely pretty goofy but tbh i feel like that's more like leveraging game mechanics to your advantage

spare pier
#

But that's because he is literally just a Dark Souls Boss in Sekiro

cloud ibex
#

the former though? yea that's cheese

plucky lichen
#

I never could get into souls games

spare pier
#

Isshin is easier than DoH by a landslide imo

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Because DoH might as well be learning how to play a different game

cloud ibex
#

we'll see about that

plucky lichen
#

Now games with lots of puzzles is a game I can get behind

spare pier
#

Isshin is just the absolute culmination of the entire game

plucky lichen
#

I love Zelda games

spare pier
#

And then for some reason he doesn't have a proper grab

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Which is really funny to me

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But yeah, I think DS1 is also a good starting point because every From Soft game has rough spots in their own way, but also excell in different ways

cloud ibex
#

he doesn't need to grab you when he can just pull out the strap

spare pier
#

People who play other games and then go back to the older ones are quick to dismiss them as just thinking the game is bad

cloud ibex
#

dude really does do the fucking "parry this you filthy casual" meme

spare pier
#

When, no, they were just going for different things

spare pier
sleek halo
spare pier
#

The games get better in general as time goes on

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But there is a reason DS1 is my favorite of the 3

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Purely looking at gameplay

cloud ibex
spare pier
#

DS3 is still my favorite because of the story

sleek halo
#

I like DS1 quite a bit

#

then DS3

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And I fundamentally despise ds2

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It’s not horrible but there is so much I dislike

spare pier
#

DS2 is fun it just has questionable design choices

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But if you look past them it's about as good as the others

sleek halo
spare pier
#

DS3 is a really mixed bag imo

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Half the game is amazing and the other half is a slog

sleek halo
#

it starts out incredibly boring imo

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Especially the.. dreaded… tree

spare pier
#

It starts out GREAT

sleek halo
#

Oh mt fucking god I HATE THEM

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THE EVIL ASS TREE

spare pier
#

And then it immediately takes a nosedive after Vordt

sleek halo
spare pier
#

Gundyr and the High Wall are really fucking good

sleek halo
#

it een soo long

spare pier
#

But then everything until Irythill, with the exception of Abyss Watcher and Farron Keep if you are me, just

sleek halo
#

J need to replay the souls frnachise

dusk laurel
#

Those who bed the chaos

magic epoch
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Those who... uhhhh... something funny

cloud ibex
#

anyway calamity lore

spare pier
#

Undead Settlement and the tree, Road of Sacrifices and the Crystal Sage, Cathedral (it's just really mid but the best part of the early game being a 5/10 shows a lot) and Deacons, Carthus and Wolnir

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Farron Keep and Abyss Watchers are the only good part of the first half of the game, unless you decide to head to Smoldering Lake

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And then Old Demon King also kinda sucks HDfailure

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Irythill and Pontiff are both amazing and then you think "hey is the game good again?"

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And the answer is no lmao

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The second half of Irythill is alright and then Aldrich sucks

lusty grove
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I like all 3 games and thats about it

spare pier
#

The Dungeon would have been great if the jailors weren't the jailors

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Profaned Capital is 3 rooms

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And then unless you enjoy the spectacle Yhorm is just pressing one button

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And then the game becomes amazing again with Archdragon Peak and Lothric Castle

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And then the two DLCs are also phenomenal

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Except Friede she kinda sucks

lusty grove
#

I liked friede

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I didnt like gravetender

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I liked their theme though

spare pier
#

Friede has the problem of being both mandatory

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And also being the hardest fight in the game

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By a landslide

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Because they decided to give her two phases that wittle you down and then put The Hardest Fight In The Game at the end

lusty grove
#

Just get good or something
(Im joking i hate the git gud joke)

spare pier
#

If her third phase wasn't just Malenia I think that would've worked

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But this isn't Sekiro, you can't beat a phase in 15 seconds

lusty grove
#

I dont really see malenia in her third phase

spare pier
#

I mean more in the difficulty department

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(Minus Waterfowl)

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Her third phase is about as hard as Malenia if you remove Waterfowl imo

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And that's fucking insane because SHE GETS A WHOLE ASS MOVESET YOU NEED TO LEARN THAT BARELY TAKES ANYTHING FROM PHASE 1 AND YOU NEED TO GO THROUGH 3 MINUTES OF FIGHT BEFOREHAND

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Friede is just too much

lusty grove
#

For me personally funnily enough third phase is usually in the middle difficulty wise

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The hardest is the second one

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You can absolutely burst it, but if you dont manage to stun ariandel quick enough, it can get pretty bad

spare pier
#

Phase 2 is easier to me but if you fuck it up you lose half your damn health

mighty zenith
#

these souls sure are dark

spare pier
#

Byeah like, Friede isn't bad

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It's just that she is so much harder than anything else in the game (and imo the franchise as a whole) and not in a good way

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I can't really name any Boss I consider harder than Friede

lusty grove
#

I consider midir harder

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He always scared me somewhat

spare pier
#

Midir is hard but I think the fact that

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I beat him the first try I got to phase 2 HDfailure

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Shows that he isn't that hard

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Midir is moreso overwhelming

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He scares you into doing shit, if you know what he's going to do and don't let fear take the best of you he is surprisingly consistent

lusty grove
#

On a bit of a different point, a boss fight where i think its harder to do that though, is orphan of kos

spare pier
#

I haven't fought Orphan of Kos but Cei does always mention how he is the hardest Boss in her opinion

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Aside from SotE's final Boss

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Which I forgot

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Yeah he's harder than Friede

lusty grove
#

The way he fights is straight up scary

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He does the same tactic of overwhelming you, and then ramps it even more during phase 2

spare pier
#

||Radahn|| is the hardest fight From Soft has ever concocted

lusty grove
#

I cant disagree lol

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I tried it before it got balanced and damn

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It got hands

spare pier
#

Yeah, I got him after it and I still can easily say

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Nah

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This shit is fucked up

lusty grove
#

I do think that the ||pvp sequence|| made things worse if you were dumb like me in my first run

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I did almost all the quests, but in a way that ||made me fight every enemy possible there||

spare pier
#

I got 2 allies

lusty grove
#

Same, but damn it wasnt enough 😭

spare pier
#

Could've had 3 but I fucked up Frejya's Quest

lusty grove
#

I had to resort to ||midras blade cheese||

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Otherwise they just kept overpowering everyone

spare pier
#

I did Ansbach's first

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So I couldn't do hers

lusty grove
#

Same

plain crane
#

i summoned grug

late veldt
plain crane
#

a half-burnt movie script

sleek halo
plain crane
#

grug

sleek halo
sleek halo
#

one of the most enjoyable fights in any game ever

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for them

zenith steppe
#

i needa settle a debate on a server, how many moonlords would it take to beat DoG lorewise, not statwise

sleek halo
#

Ml at his strongest

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or currentlt

zenith steppe
#

ml at the point u fight him

sleek halo
#

A lot then

zenith steppe
#

how many

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hundreds?

sleek halo
#

Idk probably like 15-20

spare pier
#

3 - 4

zenith steppe
#

oh thats way lower than i thought

split mortar
zenith steppe
sleek halo
split mortar
sleek halo
#

i mean they are

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rather large

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honestly 4 of them might be able to immobilize DoG

spare pier
#

Fuck is DoG gonna do if he's grabbed?

sleek halo
#

how much speed DoG can get

spare pier
#

People forget that having more than one fighter in a fight doesn't make it additively harder

sleek halo
#

If DoG is fully going then

split mortar
sleek halo
#

uh

spare pier
#

It becomes exponentially harder the more things are on the field

split mortar
sleek halo
#

he is kinda made for figbting multiple people

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big, huge attacks, can teleport vast distances

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and etc

inland beacon
#

Is wrath of gods lore?

zenith steppe
#

yea actually how tf is DoG gonna get all the eyes

split mortar
zenith steppe
#

the lasers barely do anything

brisk lynx
split mortar
sleek halo
#

just Yharim & Yharon vs only Fovos

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would be 50/50

split mortar
#

Imo itd be like prime moonlord vs xeroc

Yharim and yharon could win if absolutely everything goes in their way but most of the time prime ml is not in much danger

late veldt
split mortar
#

Prob not much different

#

Since

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Worm

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And big ass laser user

spare pier
#

3 until DoG is too tired

mighty zenith
#

i just had a really funny visual of prime fovos grabbing DoG and folding him into a balloon dog

brazen coral
#

DoG would get bored after two

#

I’m gonna invite him to play super smash bros with me

late veldt
#

Who would he main

#

Aka which is like the most dick move character to main

split mortar
late veldt
#

Oh he would play sonic

#

Obsessed with power but doesn't have the dedication to learn all the weird Steve tech

split mortar
#

True

sleek halo
# spare pier 3 until DoG is too tired

Unironically lorewise the things that could probably take on the most moon lords in a row/all at once is probably scal or the exo mechs (not counting noxus/xeroc lol)

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Yharim would probably fare way worse

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just cause he is a dude without yk the ability to sst someone on fire

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or a mech without the need for stamina

#

Considering whwt scal can do she could realistically just… engulf ml in flames and he wouldn’t live much longer

split mortar
sleek halo
#

Well

#

due to them being multiple beings

#

they’d be easier to dismantle

split mortar
#

True

sleek halo
#

like if one mech is lost they’re drastically easier to handle

split mortar
#

And ml is good at dealing with multiple targets

sleek halo
#

I don’t think he could get healing from them though tbf

#

considering uh

#

machine Skull

split mortar
sleek halo
#

Especially someone like thanatos cause of A his armor and B he’s extremely hot

sleek halo
#

banned

#

i xlloded

sleek halo
#

cuz yk

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funny energy source

#

lol

split mortar
sleek halo
#

i will melt ur flesh

split mortar
sleek halo
#

i think the only troublesome part of fovos is that he can uh

#

teleport

magic epoch
#

"If I never opens up, I can't dies"

- Thanatos and also me

sleek halo
#

really far

#

considering he was on the moon

#

and then on the planet

split mortar
#

Moonlord holds the knowledge draedon wants of long range tp

#

Oh yeah iirc it was confirmed the pillars fought the dragons

#

Ill look for it

magic epoch
#

What do the pillars even do

sleek halo
split mortar
magic epoch
#

Lmao

split mortar
#

Ok nvm cant find it i may have made a false memory oh well

dusk laurel
#

Smth smth wait in a few months

#

It's always SSO

sleek halo
#

real

#

SSO is great

dusk laurel
#

The great sso lore gatekeep

sleek halo
#

cause I can finally talk with y’all about so much more

#

I’ve totally not almost absent mindedly dropped lore

split mortar
#

Lmao

sleek halo
#

thankfully i think the only time I did it was drowned out instantly

inland beacon
#

What add-ons are lore?

dusk laurel
#

Non

sleek halo
inland beacon
#

damn

sleek halo
#

but a lot of them have their own lore

split mortar
#

No content addons are official calamity stuff iirc

plucky lichen
late veldt
split mortar
late veldt
#

Unarmored is probably fucked but he might be slippery enough to escape

split mortar
#

Counterpoint

Its 4 moonlords

late veldt
#

oh yeah at once

inland beacon
late veldt
inland beacon
inland beacon
#

How old is calamitas

inland beacon
#

I'm guessing you meant homosexual? Or pansexual?

#

Ect

cloud ibex
#

DoG is homophobic, iunno about ML

split mortar
pliant ruin
#

DoG is every single possible type of bigotry coalesced into a single being

indigo glade
#

Signus is more homophobic.

pliant ruin
#

He's just gonna be whatever is more offensive to you in particular

cloud ibex
split mortar
#

Signus seperated a gay couple

inland beacon
split mortar
#

He sent a gay couple to the distortion

inland beacon
#

Damn

cloud ibex
#

DoG hates everyone

inland beacon
#

How is calamitas 27 isn't she a god?

split mortar
#

?

#

She is just that strong without divinity

inland beacon
cloud ibex
#

she's basically just a human

inland beacon
split mortar
cloud ibex
#

one with immense magical prowess, yes, but other than that there's nothing really separating her from other humans that we know of beyond appearance

split mortar
#

Even then appearance may just be a azafure thing

#

And not a calamitas only

cloud ibex
#

yea my guess is azafurians just looked like that

inland beacon
#

Or what ever their names are

cloud ibex
#

i don't think i understand what you're asking

#

she has siblings yeah

#

or rather, had

#

they're kinda dead at the moment

inland beacon
split mortar
split mortar
cloud ibex
#

yea

split mortar
#

That or brimstone elemental did

cloud ibex
#

but it's also possible they died protecting her

split mortar
#

50/50 imo

split mortar
#

More likely brimmy but scal could have then

inland beacon
split mortar
#

?

cloud ibex
split mortar
#

When does fnaf have the sun god

#

Or the kaiju sized alternate dimension worm

eager bluff
split mortar
#

What kind of shadow bonnie ass rip off is thhat

eager bluff
#

kaiju sized alternate dimension worm

split mortar
#

????????

late veldt
split mortar
#

Yeah same

late veldt
#

and as for the moon lord. if he had any in the first place they're gone

split mortar
#

Prime fovos being below average for its speciesclueless

dusk laurel
#

Ultramill

split mortar
dusk laurel
#

.

mighty zenith
#

stop breathing

dusk laurel
#

Thank you Garbo

inland beacon
late veldt
green bay
#

Its been 55 minutes since he stopped breathing

#

Is he ok?

late veldt
#

I think. dead

late veldt
#

Is the moon lord even a species or is he just a . guy

mighty zenith
#

idk

cloud ibex
#

unknown

timid lotus
#

chat

#

are statis and signus yharim's friends

sinful adder
#

no

cloud ibex
#

no

#

none of those three are friends

sinful adder
#

signus: neutral

#

statis: enemies

timid lotus
#

ah

cloud ibex
#

at best you could argue that signus and yharim are business acquaintances

timid lotus
#

and signus is an assasian so he does missions for yharim?

cloud ibex
#

but statis almost killed yharim once and then both lost an arm and a leg and got separated from his partner because of signus

sinful adder
#

signus is like. The devil or something. He makes magic deals with anyone

timid lotus
#

ohhhhhh

cloud ibex
#

faustian rat bastard

timid lotus
#

alr thanks

sinful adder
#

statis is a ninja and one of two people who tried to kill yharim and were really close to succeeding

#

DoG trapped Statis and Braelor in the distortion (evil magic place signus and DoG are from) before they could kill Yharim.

#

Statis made a deal with Signus to escape. Braelor did not.

late veldt
#

I still wonder what the conditions of said deal are

sinful adder
#

interesting mystery. Maybe cost him a literal arm and a leg, based on concept art

cloud ibex
#

from what we know, the conditions were that statis lost an arm and a leg (literally) in exchange for statis (exclusively) being allowed to exit the distortion

late veldt
#

i feel like signus would want. more

cloud ibex
#

(presumably statis didn't know that only he would be allowed to leave otherwise he probably wouldn't have left braelor behind)

timid lotus
#

man i got this all wrong

late veldt
#

i wonder why braelor is just thuggin it out in there

#

probably an additional condition that he just. can't leave

dusk laurel
#

Signus is one of the big hanchos in the Distortion

cloud ibex
#

actually didn't triangle at one point mention that part of statis' deal was that he was forced to serve under signus in some sense, and that in-universe if you lose to signus you take up that role

late veldt
#

I'm assuming DoG is a bigger hancho

cloud ibex
#

or am i misremembering

dusk laurel
#

Nope

cloud ibex
#

not actually

dusk laurel
#

DoG is lower in the hierarchy

cloud ibex
#

however the hell the Distortion works, signus serves a more important role than DoG

sinful adder
#

DoG is just the muscle for the distortion mafia. Not high ranking, just strong

pliant ruin
#

signus is completely unaffiliated with yharim meanwhile statis actively opposes him

dusk laurel
#

DoG is like a claw

pliant ruin
#

chat did not scroll

#

its over

pliant ruin
#

signus is the eye

dusk laurel
#

So true

late veldt
#

ahhh

timid lotus
pliant ruin
#

not the one from wotg

dusk laurel
#

Not that Noxus

#

WotG Noxus is dying anyways

#

The real Noxus is canon tho

cloud ibex
#

this

pliant ruin
#

i wonder if signus won't die

#

would be a interesting turn of events

cloud ibex
#

when you fight signus you make a deal with him to free statis if you win and replace statis as his servant if you lose

split mortar
timid lotus
#

another question i have is

#

is cthulhu xeroc

dusk laurel
#

No

cloud ibex
#

nah

split mortar
sinful adder
#

cthulhu doesn't exist

cloud ibex
#

cthulhu doesn't really exist in the current version of cal lore i think?

pliant ruin
#

you should probably read the lore documment

#

yeah he dosen't

sinful adder
#

xeroc from that one mod is not actually xeroc at all

split mortar
pliant ruin
#

chtulhu isn't a character

timid lotus
#

alr

split mortar
cloud ibex
#

basically just a suffix added to the title of strong monsters to emphasize that they're dangerous

dusk laurel
#

For the first part

split mortar
dusk laurel
#

No

#

It would just cause confusion

pliant ruin
#

no but i do think - yeah

#

if you want to explain smth to someone who dosent know that smth you start off slow, give them the basic details

#

otherwise its just confusing

split mortar
#

I dont professionally yap so uh
Oops

dusk laurel
#

Bwaaa

split mortar
dusk laurel
#

it's like saying Fovos instead of Moon lord to someone getting into the lore

late veldt
#

in his fight

dusk laurel
#

We don't know

#

triangle sometimes gets some lore confused or wrong since he's not a writer

magic epoch
#

calamity lore would be so much tamer if yharon smoked some weed and chilled out

dusk laurel
loud crag
#

does noxus have official lore yet

#

not wotg

plucky lichen
split mortar
# loud crag does noxus have official lore yet

Not much

Created ceaseless void, a portal which has lasted centuries despite portals of its kind lasting mere moments even fir the likes of DoG

The boss of DoG and likely where the god essence it eats goes

Possible source of a hivemind in the distortion according to draedon, storm weaver is likely not part of it

Dev statements has revealed signus and noxus are equal in the distortion hierarchy though not confirmed shows its not might makes right there

dusk laurel
#

Do you really need those extra spaces XX

plucky lichen
#

What the signus

#

I’m sorry

dusk laurel
plucky lichen
#

I had too

split mortar
#

Deal with ito

dusk laurel
#

Kills you

magic epoch
split mortar
frigid sage
#

Sigma, envoy of the Rizzler

dusk laurel
plucky lichen
#

I finished designing my player guy that goes through the story of calamity but I don’t have any like fleshed out lore. Only thing I have is that she’s azafurian

split mortar
frigid sage
plucky lichen
#

I can post her design in media, quality varies from each drawing but they are all kinda concepts hold on

frigid sage
#

I have become column

plucky lichen
#

But yeah I don’t have any fully fleshed out lore for my guy

#

All I know is her name is Eris and she’s like 25 years old

split mortar
#

Idfk the name of my guy (or age, porb mid 20s) i just know they experience the horrors like 5 times on their journey

#

So eh stuff not being finished is fine

loud crag
#

i can never name my characters

split mortar
#

Naming :(

light linden
#

ngl

#

I wonder if yharon being sent after us was the smartest choice

split mortar
#

Dont think yharim sent yharon

#

But that yharon just left to chase us

dusk laurel
#

Yharon went on his own yeah

#

Yharim and Yharon might've had a disagreement about it? iirc, my memory is a bit hazy

plucky lichen
#

Terrarian minding their own business and getting jumped by an auric dragon out of nowhere

split mortar
plucky lichen
#

Oh and she got her cool leg after asking draedon reallllly nicely after it got evicerated fighting the exo mechs

plucky lichen
#

What did they do they are just minding their business killing gods and eldritch horrors

dusk laurel
#

Providance jumps us cuz we killed her band

split mortar
plucky lichen
#

Yooooo awesome

#

Please I need it so I can kill yharim pleaseeeeeee

split mortar
#

My terrarian experiences the ship of theseus thing

Like 3 times

plucky lichen
#

The what

split mortar
# plucky lichen The what

A philisophical question of if a ship rots and is repaired, over enough time where none of the original planks are left, is it the same ship and if not when does it stop being that ship

plucky lichen
plucky lichen
#

Forgot the name of it

#

Nahhh eris is physically intact… mostly

#

Mentally? Maybe

#

She builds houses

#

And builds houses

magic epoch
plucky lichen
#

And more houses

split mortar
#

My terrarian is uh, physically the wall of flesh after killing the wall of flesh

plucky lichen
#

Scal watching me point her to her new wood cube home after beating the shit out of her

split mortar
#

Lmao

split mortar
#

They also get their kneecaps deleted by yharim just kicking everything below the knees off

#

-# and their jaw

#

Ignoring the broken bones

magic epoch
plucky lichen
#

Sounds like they are having lots of fun!

split mortar
split mortar
plucky lichen
#

I don’t know what the yharim fight will look like but once I do will make lore for what happens there

wheat walrus
split mortar
#

Ah that

magic epoch
#

metal jaw