#lore-discussion

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split mortar
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Idk where they scale

robust osprey
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probably zen-o-sama type of shit

dusk laurel
hollow isle
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sukuna vs current lore DoG

dusk laurel
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Sukuna solos (I have no idea what I'm talking about)

split mortar
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Not calamity

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Jjk

magic epoch
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deus eat star!!! that's op!!

hollow isle
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isnt it like not a real star

dusk laurel
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yes

indigo glade
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Destructive power is all that counts!!!!!

split mortar
dusk laurel
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stars are just large spheres of mana

robust osprey
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dead stars

split mortar
dusk laurel
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Crazy

hollow isle
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they literally destroy shibuya on screen

robust osprey
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stars are big mana balls

hollow isle
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so id say city

split mortar
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Literally said its 140 iirc

split mortar
indigo glade
split mortar
indigo glade
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Its not until the Culling Games does Shibuya (and the rest of Tokyo) get properly ruined and deserted.

hollow isle
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ahhhh my b

mighty zenith
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yamcha could kill xeroc effortlessly and thats quite funny

split mortar
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Yeah…

mighty zenith
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its not like that "ruins the lore" or some shit people like to spout now

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its just funny to think about

split mortar
robust osprey
split mortar
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Yamcha will die to xeroc pulling out a blunt and going

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Though

robust osprey
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xeroc can just make an ilusion of a woman

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and win

split mortar
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True…

mighty zenith
dusk laurel
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Sounds like this yamcho guys needs to walk outside

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Crazy

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Right as I was typing that

robust osprey
pliant ruin
split mortar
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Lol

dusk laurel
crystal pendant
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please do not the windmill

manic coral
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what matters is strenght being internally consistent in the story it's in

wheat walrus
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so it doesn't matter I need outerversal arguments...

latent flower
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shibuya is a city in tokyo

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cause tokyo is a city with cities in it

split mortar
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Right yeah its the largest fucking city in the world

wheat walrus
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in terms of calcs the stuff that happened at Shibuya iirc like Large Town Level to Small City Level at max with Sukuna's Domain Expansion + Open combined

wheat walrus
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but even then idk not too sure about the calcs done for that one

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but I know even outside of that occasion, Large Town to City Level seems to be consistent

indigo glade
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Sukuna's Domain Expansion has a maximum radius of 200m, but he reduced it to only 140m, because he did not want to hurt Megumi.

wheat walrus
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daily reminder the only reason the entire raid against Sukuna didn't end instantly after Gojo died is because Gojo managed to give a good enough of a beating to Sukuna that most of his brain was unusable lmao

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otherwise, even when weakened as he is, Sukuna knows he can oneshot basically nearly everyone but it's tricky due to how they've all trained for a month to counter that guy

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can't send it here but there's this one page which I think makes it the clearest how big the gap between Sukuna even when weakened and everyone else is

magic epoch
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simple, forward the message to somewhere like #general-media and then copy the message link there and send it here!!

indigo glade
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Wow!

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How convenient!

magic epoch
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:)

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the woes of no image perms

indigo glade
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No.

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Yes.

dusk laurel
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Mreow

pliant ruin
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mrrp

hoary cape
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Exploding you both with orbital nukes

crystal pendant
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you need teleporting super nukes sorry

hoary cape
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Teleporting super orbital nukes

magic epoch
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you need to specify where

frigid sage
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Dang

split mortar
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If theyre teleporting how can we tell theyre orbital…

frigid sage
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They might as well just be regular nukes

hoary cape
hoary cape
dusk laurel
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What if i just

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Moved an inch

wheat walrus
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Prolly fc/oc wiki or smth similar

hoary cape
dusk laurel
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Nope

late veldt
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why does the DoG say "a god does not fear death" if he's not a god? is he stupid?

crystal pendant
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hes stupid

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yep

tepid timber
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Are there any good videos that explain the lore in chronological order?

robust osprey
magic epoch
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!!

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completely unrelated to the fight at hand

crystal pendant
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hes just interested in the topic

late veldt
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me shouting trivia after I get stabbed 24 times in the abdomen

crystal pendant
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hyperfixation of his

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real

magic epoch
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berdly deltarune if he was evil and fucked up and actually capable of menace

crystal pendant
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dog incel lmao

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i can see it

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hes a total loser

late veldt
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i don't think there's females of his species.

magic epoch
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is he even a species

late veldt
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I don't think he's a species quite frankly

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jinx

crystal pendant
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he's just noxus' straw

magic epoch
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ive heard theories of there being like multiple dogs

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but idr from who or anything else

crystal pendant
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are they all dumb as shit

late veldt
crystal pendant
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lmao

magic epoch
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maybe

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they're just trash compactors basically

crystal pendant
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wall e

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but eldritch

magic epoch
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actually

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im thinking about it

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yeah it's basically wall e

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especially if the others are more dead set on just trash compacting and have no sense of emotion

crystal pendant
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true

late veldt
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what if instead of going on a years long genocidal crusade, Yharim was a witch trying to find his neighbors cat in the alps

magic epoch
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this MUST be a reference... but what to... *scratches chin like a cat lost in the alps*

crystal pendant
soft geyser
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I am back from the dead to say dog is British once again

crystal pendant
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british incel trash compactor worm

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gotcha

soft geyser
late veldt
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That's too many brits

soft geyser
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He sounds classy

barren sonnet
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I always assumed DoG’s voice to be a distorted guttural bass

soft geyser
barren sonnet
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Ceaseless ain’t even alive

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Noxus though, I could see

soft geyser
soft geyser
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Weaver is an angry British he got it after dog

barren sonnet
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Weaver isn’t actually related to dog, that is just what yharim thought

late veldt
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signus sounds like shadow the hedgehog

barren sonnet
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You know how victor sounds in arcane? That’s how I imagine signus.

gritty kraken
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what if those 3 speak in servant of the scourge sound track

soft geyser
late veldt
pliant ruin
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weaver is seemingly defunct from the distortion

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dog still serves noxus

soft geyser
pliant ruin
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i also doubt DoG would ever have an apprentice

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he's too much of a jerk to tbh hdflr

robust osprey
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he is probably really annoyed by the fact he has a boss do I doubt he wants to waste time on an apprentice

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and also

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weaver just wants to

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eat

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and eep

crystal pendant
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weaver most based cal character

robust osprey
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true!!

dusk laurel
mighty zenith
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her chin is bigger than her brain

olive schooner
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is this canon tho?

split mortar
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Lorous

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Thanks mods

wheat walrus
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I assume it was a hacked account or scam bot thing

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some users need to go 💔

trail sable
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do you think Calamitas would like Brimstone bread?

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actual thing btw lol

split mortar
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I Dont know how it tastes so i wouldnt know

But it sounds funny so i imagine yea

trail sable
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from what I heard it's similar to sour bread

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also Frieren vs Calamitas would go hard-

split mortar
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Idk where frieren scales but both are regular human physically and extreme mages

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Frieren might win due to knowledge if the gap aint too big

dusk laurel
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Frieren is an elf that's closer to Yharon in age than most other Cal characters

split mortar
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Regular human physically

As in physical human strength wise

dusk laurel
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👍 _ _

trail sable
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do we count summons tho?

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because if so I feel Calamitas' brothers would definitely turn the tides to her favor, how much tho idk yet. I'll have to fight them first

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my most anticipated fight is against Calamitas' brothers, not even Calamitas herself

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because as a melee fighter i want to see just how powerful they are lol

dusk laurel
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The bountiful harvest after making Catas and Catac actually semi difficult

tranquil seal
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I know about yharon, dragon of gluttony, and zeratros, but are there any mentioned ones I’m missing?

cloud ibex
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There’s also the dragons of flame, death and life (all unnamed) and also gravity (unnamed and also not mentioned in-game yet)

dusk laurel
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Frost is also not mentioned yet

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Vetrasyl dragon of storms will be mentioned soon™️

cloud ibex
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I forgot vetrasyl exists for a moment

late veldt
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Are dryads human or their own species?

spring helm
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Their own species

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The Dryad NPC is like 500 years old

mighty zenith
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they're closer to plants than people iirc

late veldt
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reverse fungi

regal crest
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calamitastastic

late veldt
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I mean, now that I think about it, wouldn't the worst thing we could do is to infect half the continent with the Astral Infection? Hasn't that stuff destroyed whole planets before?

manic coral
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No how would it

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It'd take centuries but it'd just vanish over time

late veldt
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Oh right

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I think I was confusing it with just. like regular lore corruption/crimson or some old lore stuff

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Worst thing we could do is probably something that would have severe ecological impacts on the world as a whole and/or severely dampen any other survivors ability to survive

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maybe turn the world into a giant pool of lava

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Or into sulphuric sea, that would probably have more influence on the greater terraria

strong notch
split mortar
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Whats loring

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^

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life is already adapted to it

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Well life also adapted fir the underworld

late veldt
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who up loring they discussion

late veldt
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And I imagine a mass of it on the continent would result in severe consequences on the rest of the continent

strong notch
late veldt
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Lots of toxic materials would probably get in the water streams and water cycle and earth

split mortar
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Theres already a continent thats a lot of lava and volcanoes

That place is less hostile then the heartlands in hardmode

late veldt
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Although a mass that large would also make a lot of the surrounding area uninhabitable

dusk laurel
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Terraria

split mortar
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In calamity

dusk laurel
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calamity mod

late veldt
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ah, what continent?

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is hell considered a continent?

split mortar
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Its just revealed by a dev that theres just that continent

late veldt
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Ah

split mortar
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And its less bad then hardmode heartlands

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So uh

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Lava everywhere aint inhospitable

late veldt
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The lava idea is more harmful than just mining a continent on its own

late veldt
split mortar
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You can fish in lava

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Life can survive both lava and acid

dusk laurel
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Chungus Podoboon Koi....

late veldt
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I mean maybe if we progress the world to hard mode, infect it with corruption/crimson, and then progress no further in order to make sure it's at its maximum relative power and spread, it would have more influence over the world

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Not to mention massively increase the power of the hive mind

split mortar
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I wonder if life would just adapt and then god essence biomes stop being such a big influence at some point

late veldt
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Although I'm moreso considering life on the level where it can create societies, they're the only ones capable of salvaging things

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If fish survives who gives a fuck

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as long as we make sure the fish cannot progress much up the evolutionary chain

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Or at least for as long as possible

split mortar
late veldt
split mortar
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Illmeris having (albeit limited amount) of survivors:

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Also jared and old duke being sapient:

late veldt
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Jared and Old Duke do not have hands

split mortar
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Magic spells:

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Just cast hand

late veldt
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Honestly yeah I think infecting the world with the world evil might be one of the most damaging things we can do

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But actually I think I thought of something worse

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Kill every boss except Providence

crystal pendant
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why not moon lord? clearly wicked too

late veldt
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fair point

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But I don't think it's possible to kill post ml bosses without killing ml

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But then again I'm not sure if that's the case for Providence either, I'll go check

dusk laurel
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The nefarious folly of the dragons

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One of the writers explained it is possible to go from dragonfolly preML to Old Duke, if you train long enough

late veldt
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Oh right

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But then again I'm speaking about in game

dusk laurel
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You can technically fight yharon and folly preML

late veldt
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Where we are constricted to da rules

split mortar
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Actually

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The worst ending fir the world has already been made by cei

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Lose to moonlord

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Die to the lunar titan

dusk laurel
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Very specific set of events

dusk laurel
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For Providence to succeed

crystal pendant
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or smth

dusk laurel
split mortar
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This

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Providence through extreme luck and circumstance makes a flame that cant go out and literally erased the world

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Only xeroc left and they just tp the sun away

dusk laurel
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Or they killed themself

late veldt
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ah

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yeah it seems I wasn't far of with the idea of 'let fovos/providence live and fuck up the world as much as they can'

split mortar
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Like maybe fovos gaining full power could lead to a worse ending of them actively hunting other planets but idk thats likely to get nuked by xeroc unlike providence

late veldt
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yeah the main obstacle preventing total annihilation is xeroc realizing that domestic disputes have reached truly cataclysmic scale

split mortar
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Yeah

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And well

No one can beat xeroc

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Not in the future and not right now

dusk laurel
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Wtfrick

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Goose deleted googlystare

split mortar
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Bru

magic epoch
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i could beat xeroc with my trusty paper shredder!

split mortar
crystal pendant
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granny from granny 🤯

split mortar
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No

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Granny as in a irl person who beat xeroc

late veldt
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How does the player even know how to craft all this shit anyways

split mortar
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Also for the terrarian oc stuff

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Who is you btw

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They uh

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Well

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Up to you

split mortar
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Schematic typo

late veldt
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Eh yeah I suppose crafting is just rapid fire science. Just mashing shit together seems to be how we craft most things

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Or maybe there's some magical guidance or something

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OH SHIT THE GUIDE

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HOW THE FUCK DOES HE KNOW???

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Eh I suppose we're due to find out

split mortar
late veldt
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this fucker is a peer to Draedon

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Oh hello robbit

split mortar
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Ok mettaton

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Thankd ou mods

spring helm
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I was about to say why are they still here but they got deleted as I was typing

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Good job mods

hoary cape
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They have been executed

split mortar
hoary cape
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Not by me I was too slow XD

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But your welcome

spring helm
late veldt
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The Guide must have eaten the dragon of knowledge and just. won against the mutations.

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Or maybe like a disciple of that theoretical guy

split mortar
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iirc his coworkers were working on wof

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So he is knowledgable on magic front atleast

late veldt
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Ah

hoary cape
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The guide is obviously xeroc in disguise

stoic gulch
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what if you were guide

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then you would be xeroc

split mortar
stoic gulch
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no i just got beat up by an old woman

split mortar
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We are onto YOU

ruby trellis
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you

stoic gulch
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still 3 stealth points

ruby trellis
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guh

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Im leavin this evil place

late veldt
split mortar
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Xeroc has no reason to kill yharim

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He aint a threat to all life

eager bluff
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if xeroc cared enough to manipulate some rando into killing yharim he could have just shown up and killed yharim

split mortar
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And ynknow

Kill moonlord

late veldt
stark basalt
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is the brimstone elemental attracted to brimstone

split mortar
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They want to burn everything

So they prob spread it

late veldt
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I bet Yharim was fucking PISSED when we killed the Wall of Flesh

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Or at the very least the surviving staff that worked on it

stark basalt
late veldt
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Now I'm curious as to what the fallout of dying at different points in progression has

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I might write up a little bit of that later

split mortar
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Well dying to ml doesnt grant a providence win, just that its the only way for her to

deft valve
dusk laurel
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No

cloud ibex
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i think that would cheapen the feeling

split mortar
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Sorry to say

But xeroc is like 5 shotting yharim

dusk laurel
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Explodes you with my mind

split mortar
dusk laurel
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I agree

mighty zenith
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we already get cheated out of two kills with scal and draedon

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just let us kill yharim ourselves

wheat walrus
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Letting us kill Xeroc for more aura points

split mortar
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Let us solo noxus

spring helm
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All that progress and 0 endgame boss kills

split mortar
wheat walrus
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If Xeroc steals our Yharim and Noxus kills but we kill Xeroc that's even more aura than killing those 2 but not Xeroc

manic coral
tall delta
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xeroc would probably steal our noxus kill

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cant make terrarian is up to you too strong

split mortar
spring helm
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The bad ending: you die to Noxus
The neutral ending: you kill Noxus
The good ending: Xeroc kill steals, and then you kill Xeroc
The true ending: it was all a dream

mighty zenith
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terrarian coma theory

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time to make a 20 minute video

shut tide
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no way terraria game theory when

split mortar
wheat walrus
split mortar
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True ending

late veldt
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when did Yharim start being big depression sadboy anyways? would he have killed the Slime God after he gets Forcefemmed? He says he was planning to kill the EoL in the lore item but idrk how truthful or canon that is

wheat walrus
split mortar
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Is when he got saddes

late veldt
eager bluff
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depression sadboy happened not long after scal left
sg yeah
eol also yes but i do want to say take it with a grain of salt

split mortar
wheat walrus
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The EoL lore item should be canon but recently devs mentioned they're likely giving a sort of revamp to EoL lore so stay aware

wheat walrus
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Somewhere in this channel or spoiler chat

split mortar
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Yeah eol is one of the few things that may get rewritten

late veldt
wheat walrus
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Slime God and Providence exist cause they're good at escaping

late veldt
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Ohhh, you're saying he would have murked queen slime even regardless of the depression

split mortar
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Slime god is weak and stayed away from yharims army

Any time they did meet they would just sacrifice the paladins then fuck off

wheat walrus
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Other than that, even despite Providence being a top-tier, Yharim killed gods beyond her, Xeroc is the only one he can't match in power; the rest he would kill with 0 hesitation alongside anyone who shows any bit of positivity about any god

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But if they're capable of evading Yharim, Yharim and his gradually decreasing troops, then yea

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The only ones who could take Yharim head-on were Braelor and Statis combined while having ambushed him too, he almost died but DoG ended up saving him there, after that he got his current armor

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Braelor is Silva's Champion, Silva as a goddess is already basically unkillable normally due to her god domain of Life and elemental domain of Nature which is why she's in the abyss regenerating, but even without that you can infer she's post-DoG due to her armor

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So Braelor should be similarly powerful too, being her champion and allat, and remember that Silva's blessing is one of the main components to Primordial Wyrm's power alongside age so yk

tall delta
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and then dragon god yharon killed noxus

wheat walrus
shut tide
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huh

split mortar
shut tide
tall delta
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weird how there wasnt a single auric dragon who ate another dragon auric soul

late veldt
dusk laurel
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Not confirmed

late veldt
shut tide
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like i dont think 2 auric souls merge well

split mortar
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But guesses on my end

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So not worth more then your opinion

dusk laurel
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I think it happening is very possible

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But then Yharon would have to erase that dragon from history for Yharim to not find out

tall delta
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It would be two auric souls

split mortar
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A normal and auric already form a god soul which is so unstable it commits monster soul undertale on death iirc

So yeah auric and auric would prob be bad

tall delta
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that wouldnt make sense

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both is auric

split mortar
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Auric is more unstable then a regular soul iirc

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So its stable+semi stable= unstable

Semi stable+semi stable= ???prob super unstable???

dusk laurel
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Source?

wheat walrus
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We have confirmations about 2 auric + 1 reg being unstable, 1 auric + 1 reg = 1 god soul and also that elementals don't do crazy shit when merging with auric souls

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The 2 auric + 1 reg being unstable is more so devs talking though, the rest is all true

split mortar
wheat walrus
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I think 2 auric souls with nothing else to it might work, kinda like how Silva did

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The thing is that's cannibalism, and just based on Yharon idk if they'd do that

late veldt
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I mean the thing is I think any dragon that did eat a soul and wasn't like immediately whisked away to mutationland would have likely just been ganged up on by a bunch more dragons

late veldt
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Is there any specific reason that the DoG fights the player or does he just want a yummy snack

split mortar
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Only thing i can think is us having god essence on us after wof

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But you can fight dog before wof…

late veldt
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how

regal crest
split mortar
late veldt
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Cus the walls filled with the stuff

split mortar
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They did explode into the hallowed, crimson and corruption bigger biomes

regal crest
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ahh

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personally i dont think thats why the DoG approaches the player

late veldt
late veldt
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Do we know what the pillars are exactly? Are they Heralds of Fovos or the last line of defense against him?

silent osprey
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is there any public concept art or info on deus' design? i am mildly confused about some parts like the mouth area, the hoop-looking segments and the part mildly hidden by the hoops

robust osprey
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huh?

late veldt
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what is the purpose in lore of fighting the moon lord anyways

robust osprey
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you kill LC

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moonlord comes

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to kill

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beacuse seal was broken

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the seal that kept them on the moon

late veldt
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ok and why do we kill lc

robust osprey
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beacuse

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crazy maniac

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who also worked with yharim at some point

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LC wants to revive a dragon

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via torturing people

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there's a reason there's a lot of skeletons

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and an amalgamation of souls

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dungeon was also used by yharim as a prision

spring helm
robust osprey
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also that

spring helm
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🫵🧑

gritty kraken
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The terrarian lore is

robust osprey
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terrarian is you image

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except we suck at naming

late veldt
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Yeah I should have worded that better

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I avoided 'why do you kill moon lord' to avoid a bombardment of TERRARIAN is YOU

robust osprey
late veldt
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Wait how does Providence kill DoG and Yharon in Embers without the perfect flame if they're post providence bosses

robust osprey
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does she kill them?

late veldt
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Yeah. She kills everyone but Xeroc in Embers, using a flame made of Auric Soul Fragments and Primordial light after she kills Yharon

robust osprey
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tf is embers

late veldt
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Oh uh

spring helm
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you know enreaged night time providence?

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that's canon

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just how it happens is different than what is currently in-game

robust osprey
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tru

late veldt
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This

spring helm
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by absorbing the divine cores of the Profaned Guardians, Providence gains a massive powerup

robust osprey
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it will be changed to a super prov thing when u use prof core 2 times

spring helm
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which is enough to bump her to armourless DoG level

robust osprey
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also primordial light is kinda

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boosted

manic coral
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who dares summon me

spring helm
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that's after she beat yharon

robust osprey
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hai

manic coral
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oh jsut somebody linking embers again

spring helm
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Emerald was asking how Providence beat DoG

manic coral
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my favorite thing ive written i think

late veldt
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But yeah it's peam

late veldt
spring helm
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Providence sees the corpses of her Guardians and goes super saiyan

late veldt
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Oh wait it's the enrage isn't it

spring helm
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super saiyan blue

late veldt
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That makes sense

spring helm
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the image of Yharim's armour continuing to burn even after the man himself had turned to ash goes hard as fuck

late veldt
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It'd be neat if the enraged Providence was tiered to post Yharon

gritty kraken
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Chat did draedon die I haven’t looked at it yet

dusk laurel
late veldt
dusk laurel
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Embers is not canon, it's a what if

spring helm
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That’s a what if

late veldt
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fair enough

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but still

dusk laurel
spring helm
#

let's be real here if Providence really did manage to beat DoG Yharim would square up in the middle of the fight to kill her

dusk laurel
olive schooner
#

silly question, is the terrarian being immortal canon

wheat walrus
spring helm
#

unless you want it to

olive schooner
#

oh even that is optional

#

ig that makes cheat sheet canon if you want

spring helm
#

well it is a sandbox game in the end, and the writers want to allow for that

gritty kraken
spring helm
#

penguinz0

spring helm
dusk laurel
spring helm
#

well i mean

#

a 4v1 is going to be much harder than a 1v1 if the Providence you are fighting is only like 20% stronger than the Providence in the 4v1

#

that's not a big enough boost to cover the gap of having to fight 4 people at the same time

wheat walrus
sinful adder
#

My guess is that DoG recognizes you as a threat once you get strong enough and notices because you're killing a lot of things that have godly essence in them

trail sable
light linden
#

what

#

no

#

it's a god formed by a human that consumed the auric dragon of gluttony

trail sable
#

Oh damn really?

light linden
#

they restrain themselves though and as a result are weaker than the other gods

light linden
#

unlike most of the gods that absorbed just the auric dragon's soul the human that became the slime god supposedly ate the dragon completely

trail sable
#

I forgot the exact text but there was a pet you could make after slime god that basically talked about a god or something becoming too powerful it got deleted or something

frozen zodiac
#

that's from calamity's vanities i think, its just a darth plagueis the wise joke, but yes iirc goozma was a concept at one point

trail sable
#

I see

sinful adder
#

and goozma was that concept but again and never finished

trail sable
#

I didn't know that it was from a addon-

sinful adder
#

yeah

#

I might be getting some detail wrong but it was something like that

cloud ibex
#

goozma and geldon aren't really related beyond both being slimes

#

goozma was slime god ex, geldon was just his own thing

tranquil seal
#

yall where was the dragon of gluttony mentioned again

dusk laurel
#

Despite being a Gluttonous slime, the Slime God forbids itself from... [rest of the Slime God entry]
-The Slime God consumed the Auric Soul of the Dragon of Gluttony.

tranquil seal
#

doesn't that just refer to how slimes are gluttonous in nature rather than the specific dragon though

dusk laurel
#

The document stated it consumed the auric soul of gluttony

real silo
#

Rebecca capitalizing weird words again

dusk laurel
#

Classic

spring helm
#

is there any other example of slimes being said to be gluttinous?

dusk laurel
#

I don't think so

spare pier
#

CEI DID IT

light linden
real silo
spring helm
cosmic zenith
#

To most Dragons, attacking another Dragon was fucked up

#

Killing another Dragon was unthinkable, let alone absorbing their soul

robust osprey
#

wasnt there a crazy fucked up and evil dragon

#

who wanted to kill other dragons

manic coral
spare pier
#

What

manic coral
#

ijust wrote th initial drafts for them

#

i was busy doing other ones for editing

robust osprey
#

rebecca trying to deny everything

manic coral
#

it might not have been you but dont pin the blame on me

#

i've always been agaisnt random capitalization

manic coral
#

i always have to go through and edit people typing "Dragons" to wloercase becuase thats incorrect

indigo glade
#

Watching two lore writers fight is fun...

manic coral
#

thats not a proper noun

robust osprey
indigo glade
#

What about the ones of the Auric flavour?

manic coral
eager bluff
#

that would be Auric dragons

manic coral
#

still jsut like always capitalizing" humans"

eager bluff
manic coral
#

ajnd i know this is rich coming from ms. typos

#

but

#

when im actually writing important stuff i care

#

see: Embers

indigo glade
manic coral
#

i combed that shit so hard it literally only had ONE typo before anybody else even went over it

eager bluff
#

its the difference between saying someone is a Human and a European human

manic coral
#

"auric" shouldn't even really be capitalized

#

i'm also against that

real silo
#

it's silly

eager bluff
#

its capitalized specifically because it gets item status

frigid sage
eager bluff
manic coral
#

auric is more than an item

#

it's more of a descriptor, really

#

it'd be more like saying

#

"the walls are Blue"

real silo
#

Me capitalizing golden

manic coral
#

"the fire is Warm"

#

"i'm feeling really Shitty today"

cosmic zenith
manic coral
#

yes it adds emphasis

eager bluff
#

"holy guacamole Terrarian those dragons sure are Auric"

frigid sage
#

Sorm Wever

manic coral
#

stinky

#

:(

dusk laurel
dusk laurel
#

My ass capitalizing perennial

cosmic zenith
#

I capitalize Dragons and Gods because I consider them divine figures

#

And so, it is fitting to give them more of a spotlight

indigo glade
eager bluff
#

nuh uh

indigo glade
#

I call this...

dusk laurel
indigo glade
#

Capitalism...

eager bluff
#

if you capitalized on everything you would say "I capitalise ON EVERYTHING."

cosmic zenith
#

Omw to speak like Rain World Ancients

dusk laurel
#

💥

manic coral
#

NO, I CAPITALISE ON EVERYTHING

#

HELLO PEOPLE OF LORE DISCUSSION

real silo
indigo glade
#

I capitalise on taking people's resources and selling it back to them with added, harmful side effects.

cosmic zenith
#

"On regards of the (by spiritual splendor eternally graced) people of the Congregation of Never Dwindling Righteousness, we Wish to congratulate (o so thankfully) this Facility on its Loyal and Relished services, and to Offer our Hopes and Aspirations that the Fruitful and Mutually Satisfactory Cooperation may continue, for as long as the Stars stay fixed on their Celestial Spheres and/or the Cooperation continues to be Fruitful and Mutually Satisfactory."

"It is with Honor I, Eight Suns-Countless Leaves, of the House of Six Wagons, Count of no living blocks, Counselor of 2, Duke of 1, Humble Secretary of the Congregation of Never Dwindling Righteousness, write this to You."

"We hope that the Crops are healthy, and that the Productivity with which your Facility is Blessed, leads (as it often does) to further Prosperity. May Not as long as the Stars stay fixed on their Celestial Spheres Grey Hand, Impure Blood, Inheritable Corruption, Parasites, or malfunction settle in Your establishment."

"Leaning on the Solid Foundation of our Long Running Fruitful and Mutually Satisfactory Cooperation, we will take the liberty of stating The Reason for this Message ~ we write to Warmly thank You for yet Another Timely and Appreciated delivery of your Product (Nectar) to our Community (Congregation of Never Dwindling Righteousness). Our humble Words can never Aspire to Describe our gratitude."

dusk laurel
real silo
#

So like Dragon of Death would be capitalized but when talking about dragons in general no

dusk laurel
#

Yeah

manic coral
#

correct

cosmic zenith
#

Dragon of Death is a title, so yes

manic coral
real silo
#

I mean isn't that the whole point of proper nouns

manic coral
#

but not when it's just random in in whats supposedly to be entireally correct sentences

cosmic zenith
#

(I capitalize in my speech, when writing through the lens of characters or narrative devices I'm obviously not gonna do that)

robust osprey
#

Hello Lore Discussion, How Are You

manic coral
#

by the way stip

#

question

indigo glade
manic coral
#

have you played with Rain Meadow at all

#

i havent

#

if you have im curious what you think

real silo
#

The Sun vs a cluster of suns

cosmic zenith
#

I haven't
I haven't played Rain World in a while, and the last thing I did was a RW Server challenge (Perseverance, ascend as Hunter starting on Cycle 0)

manic coral
#

fair

#

i was gonna go back to RW in march

indigo glade
#

Lore.

manic coral
#

in preperation for The Watcher

cosmic zenith
#

I really need to get my shit together and finish Challenge 70 before Watcher

#

But guh

#

Challenge 70......

manic coral
#

yeah

cosmic zenith
#

I'd rather do Apex Predator perkless 10 times over Challenge 70

robust osprey
#

loreful

cosmic zenith
#

Heck, I'd rather beat Inv again than do Challenge 70

manic coral
#

ok thats too far imo

cosmic zenith
#

Nah Inv is relatively chill until you fuck up badly

manic coral
#

its not chill you're just really good at rain world

cosmic zenith
#

If I hadn't gotten softlocked in Sky Islands and then Farm Arrays, it would be a smooth run

#

Ehhhhhhh

indigo glade
#

Lihzahrds.

cosmic zenith
#

Inv has some pretty consistent strategies

silent osprey
#

is there any public concept art or info on deus' design? i am mildly confused about some parts like the mouth area, the hoop-looking segments and the part mildly hidden by the hoops (trying to make a accurate 3d model)

cosmic zenith
#

Chimney Canopy is basically free

manic coral
#

i dont remember tbh

#

if deus concept art is public

cosmic zenith
#

I assume you meant current Deus

#

There is a wiki page for concept art, you could look there

late veldt
#

The bestiary is weirdly omniscient, is it a creation of the guide or something?

silent osprey
#

The worm boss deus yes

cosmic zenith
robust osprey
late veldt
#

fair enough

cosmic zenith
#

The Guide definitely doesn't have that much knowledge

silent osprey
dusk laurel
late veldt
#

Yeah I don't really think he figured out miracle matter even if he'll tell you how to make it in game

robust osprey
#

the guide telling you how to craft every single crafteable thing is also just game mechanic

late veldt
#

He's definitely very very knowledgeable though

robust osprey
#

aint no way bro knows how to craft miracle matter

dusk laurel
#

Not knowledgable enough

#

World soul is not something a normal guy would know

#

Let alone a historian

robust osprey
#

probably the guide's existance is not cannon in hardmode

#

he is probably dead in canon beacuse wof

manic coral
#

also you got those two mixed up i think

dusk laurel
#

Did the dragons like just tell people about it back then

manic coral
#

way you phrased it implies historians know less than a normal guy

dusk laurel
manic coral
#

no

#

do we have proof they existed?

#

yes

robust osprey
#

false, a T-rex told me everything

dusk laurel
late veldt
cosmic zenith
#

Ehh I think it's not common knowledge, but something great scholars would know about

late veldt
#

Like alllll the way back

#

Like from Grug to Abraham Lincoln to the modern day

cosmic zenith
#

Sure

light linden
#

there any chance we'll get more detailed info in game on what the fovos vs dragons fight was like?

late veldt
#

there was a bucnh of dragons and there was a moon lord

#

hope that helps 👍

late veldt
#

Is there any lore regarding whatever kingdom the vanilla princess originates?

cosmic zenith
#

Length? Strategies? Action? The strengths of either side?

indigo glade
#

Hmm...

#

Or

dusk laurel
#

👁️_ _

indigo glade
#

not die.

#

Fight.

dusk laurel
#

Wow

#

2 spelling mistakes

inland beacon
late veldt
#

this is specifically a calamity question for calamity lore

light linden
late veldt
cosmic zenith
#
  1. Roughly a month
  2. It wasn't restricted to a continent
  3. Might be interesting to explore, though very vaguely
  4. You will know of the first to fight and possibly some who died, definitely the post-attack state of a few
light linden
#

ok ty

cosmic zenith
#

Np

indigo glade
#

How is Draedon powered?

real silo
#

Did the fight last a month because he's the moon lord

robust osprey
indigo glade
#

What in the world could power an AI like Draedon 600 years ago.

silent osprey
#

I couldnt find any concept art for deus

plucky lichen
real silo
#

Moon lord fight lasting an entire lunar cycle

magic epoch
indigo glade
real silo
#

you're in february

dusk laurel
#

Nope

indigo glade
robust osprey
#

do u live in mars?

dusk laurel
hoary cape
indigo glade
#

Mars is horrible.

robust osprey
#

saturn?

indigo glade
#

Saturn is pretty to look at, not live in.

robust osprey
#

in the sun?

plucky lichen
#

Is there any in depth lore or knowledge of the culture for the azafurians? I know there were a lot of blacksmiths and whatnot but what was life like for the average people there? Was it a good city to live in or did it have some big major issues

plucky lichen
#

Perfect for my summer vacation

indigo glade
robust osprey
plucky lichen
robust osprey
#

and it was pretty good to live in mainly beacuse lava burns less than sunrays in the golden era of the dragons

real silo
cosmic zenith
#

Azafure definitely had its problems

silent osprey
real silo
robust osprey
#

it is on literal hell

plucky lichen
cosmic zenith
#

I assume its largest social issue would be inequality/concentrated wealth

We do have a government type in mind, though I'm not sure I can share

#

@manic coral thoughts

indigo glade
#

Democracy, clearly.

plucky lichen
robust osprey
#

do you guys think there would be racism against migrating people in azafure

real silo
cosmic zenith
#

Chrysadia was a democracy, Ilmeris was a constitutional monarchy

#

Azafure is neither, of course

real silo
#

holy shit ilmeris is malaysia

robust osprey
#

a dictatorship clueless

dusk laurel
#

Azafure is clearly governed by oligarchs

cosmic zenith
#

Correct

indigo glade
#

Azafure was survival of the fittest.

cosmic zenith
#

We wanted to make Azafure an oligarchy

indigo glade
#

No laws.

#

The Purge is always ongoing.

dusk laurel
#

You're no laws

silent osprey
cosmic zenith
#

Anarchy would be too chaotic of a city so ancient

robust osprey
#

draedon is also responsible of that

#

but to be fair, it was already poisoned when he saw it

plucky lichen
#

Is there any lore reasons why azafurians have horns and stuff or are they just cool like that

robust osprey
plucky lichen
#

Or is that just calamitas

robust osprey
#

theyre in hell

#

thats probably why

plucky lichen
#

I was told more folks looked like calamitas

robust osprey
#

and no it were everyone

#

(every non-migrant)

#

guide is azafurian

dusk laurel
#

The sulphurous sea was always getting slightly sulphurifed iirc

#

Like it started even before Azafure

#

but it was a lot slower

plucky lichen
#

Sulphuric sea my favorite soup 😋

#

I neeeeeeeedddd radiation

dusk laurel
plucky lichen
#

Thank you dreadon for the extra spice

silent osprey
#

Btw when deus will get a redesign, will the original concept art be made public? (Couldnt find any on the wiki)

dusk laurel
#
  1. no ETA, 2) if the artist wants to
#

probably with the Astral overhaul

robust osprey
#

whats eta

dusk laurel
#

Estimated time of arrival

robust osprey
#

ah

silent osprey
cosmic zenith
plucky lichen
#

Do they all have white hair or is there different colors present too? I mean I would imagine some variation

silent osprey
late veldt
#

I bet someone utterly unimportant in azafure looked like an anime protagonist with bright ass pink hair. too many chemicals to not

indigo glade
#

Princess has bright pink hair.

late veldt
#

Oh yeah

robust osprey
#

I mean princess definetly doesnt fit the unimportant description

plucky lichen
#

I’ve fallen in love with all the world building and it’s cool I can ask the actual creators about it

robust osprey
#

pretty sure lore writters like to answer questions so dw

#

they cant wait future update to spill out all the info

cosmic zenith
#

I'm happy to answer! I'm also a big fan of worldbuilding, and I usually am the one to handle the more detailed side of it
I haven't given that much thought, but I think the tones would be more pale, though there could be vibrant reds, hazels ans blondes here and there

cosmic zenith
#

Like the Bone Serpent entry I keep mentioning

robust osprey
#

fair enough

dusk laurel
robust osprey
cosmic zenith
#

I do remember sharing a page or two of Chrysadia worldbuilding here

#

I only really got to do Chrysadia so far

#

Ilmeris is not as intuitive, and Azafure will come later

#

Now I do need to sleep, but please ping me with your questions and I'll answer tomorrow

robust osprey
#

gn

cosmic zenith
#

Good night, everyone

dusk laurel
#

Byebye

indigo glade
plucky lichen
#

Night night!

spring helm
#

of course i return when the convo's over calsad

#

anyway, if Azafure was one of the first to industrialize, that could help explain the supposed large wealth inequality

Not that that would be the only reason

#

no doubt such an old city would have some lineages that are also super old and therefore had the time to rack up stacks while other families came and went

#

now that i think about it

#

how did they even have water in the underworld

#

or did the azafurians not need water

robust osprey
#

I mean azafurians are still humans

#

humans with grey skin and horns

#

but humans

#

so they probably still needed water

#

but idk how do they drink water

#

without burning their tongues in the process

pastel gazelle
#

thermal convection is nowhere near as much of a thing, as shown by the fact we can stand right next to lava without getting burnt. As to how they had water... I dunno. Maybe they got it from the plants growing there... uh... somehow?

#

That's a real stumper.

#

...did all azafurians have grey skin and horns? I didn't know that, and was especially unsure about the horns. Because if that's the case... I have a Brain Blast way in which something canonical suddenly acquires a new, different significance.

#

Look at the Dryad's shimmered form.

#

According to Redigit, the Dryad "isn't actually wearing anything" and "the vines are a part of her body".
I didn't want to know that, thank you.

pastel gazelle
#

my response exactly. I don't like that.

robust osprey
#

who let arms dealer type that

real silo
#

Instead of drilling for oil they drill for water

frail void
#

So I’m new to the lore where can I see or read this shiz from beginning?

eager bluff
#

check pins, second message

frail void
#

Sick thanks fam

manic coral
#

it's basically just a difference ethnicity

pastel gazelle
#

Fair enough!

trail sable
#

I was creating a new world and the text "Setting Azafure ablaze" Like DAMN-

#

knowing the lore that made me choke on my water a bit-

sudden ruin
#

old duke 15 minute cutscene still happening right

sudden ruin
#

?

gritty kraken
#

It will be 2 hours long

hoary cape
#

50 years long

gaunt sluice
trail sable
#

Kinda makes it more fucked

gaunt sluice
#

poor cal

#

she needs a therapist

#

and a cat

trail sable
gaunt sluice
#

I just imagine her having a black cat named Lilith for some reason

trail sable
#

Each named after her and her brothers' names before becoming who they were

gaunt sluice
#

ain't those their actual names

trail sable
#

From what I heard Calamitas has a different name but that might have just been fandom-

trail sable
gaunt sluice
#

nice

gaunt sluice
trail sable
#

She lives in the forest pylon castle that I made along with Calamitas and The Arch mage

gaunt sluice
#

so i've just always thought it was just what was trendy in Hell at the time

trail sable
#

Lmao that's funny

gaunt sluice
trail sable
#

I'm decent lol

gaunt sluice
#

I'm good in theory but in practice I can't build a fancy box

trail sable
#

What if instead of Calamitas surviving it was one of the brothers

gaunt sluice
#

I can think what I want to make

#

but then I can't make it

trail sable
#

I feel that so hard

gaunt sluice
gritty kraken
trail sable
gaunt sluice
#

it was kinda an over time thing tho

trail sable
#

Rq, does anyone know why the terrarian decided to fight everyone and everything?

trail sable
#

Did they just decide to go "I wanna fight gods"

split mortar
#

The terrarian is your oc

trail sable
#

Because that seems really funny

split mortar
#

Your character

gaunt sluice
split mortar
#

Yoj make the reasonings

trail sable
gritty kraken
split mortar
gaunt sluice
trail sable
split mortar
#

The only constraint is you suck at naming

gaunt sluice
trail sable
#

Or my favorite when I first saw Providence "IM GOING TO PUNCH THE SUN!"

gritty kraken
#

Ummm actually

trail sable
gaunt sluice
#

I know revengeance is canon but the Infernum fights feel more realistic to me for some reason

split mortar
gaunt sluice
#

so time to learn how to play infernum

split mortar
#

Also uh

#

Sorry?

gritty kraken
#

miracle matter

pliant ruin
#

miracle matter is a cool name

gaunt sluice
#

ah yes

#

miracle matter

pliant ruin
#

draedon just dosent like it because hes a nerd

gritty kraken
#

Super stuff

gaunt sluice
#

uhm achkshumally it's a very delicate composition of

split mortar
pliant ruin
#

thats a pretty normal name idk

gaunt sluice
#

we name all the stuff we make out of it ig

gaunt sluice
#

you got a better name for it?

gritty kraken
#

Miracle sword

split mortar
gaunt sluice
#

fair enough

hoary berry
trail sable
#

I summoned Calamitas as a joke fully expecting for us to lose, me and my buddy still tried (our ranger wasnt on) and we won by the skin of our teeth

split mortar
hoary berry
#

i woke up like
past 6am

#

this is revolutionary

gaunt sluice
pliant ruin
#

its 6 am here

#

well

#

5

#

not 6

split mortar
trail sable
gaunt sluice
#

infernum scal so cool looking though

split mortar
#

True

trail sable
#

And I'm melee

gaunt sluice
#

b r e h

#

yall can play video games?

split mortar
trail sable
#

Yeah, Jared

#

Why does he spawn when you use the discord rod?

#

Like lore wise

gaunt sluice
#

he aint like dat

split mortar
#

Anything that gives chaos state does

gritty kraken
#

it’s flashy

pliant ruin
trail sable
pliant ruin
#

im a grandma i dont even know what games are

gaunt sluice
#

also from Xeroc

pliant ruin
#

nah

gaunt sluice
#

afaik

pliant ruin
#

jared dgaf about terminus i dont think

#

thats a infernum thing

gaunt sluice
#

haeh

gritty kraken
split mortar
gaunt sluice
#

am I completely off base

trail sable
#

I see-

gaunt sluice
#

istg someone told me dat

split mortar
#

Told yoj what

pliant ruin
#

jared has no association with terminus in base cal