#lore-discussion

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sleek halo
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not to mention he can’t replicate the attunement

real silo
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Get ON your cloning game draedon

sleek halo
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which is uh

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important

spring helm
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🤯

late veldt
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Yeah Draedon doesn't seem to be too advanced in the cloning department. somehow

sleek halo
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cloning seems to he

spring helm
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What makes you think that?

sleek halo
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extremely new

real silo
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How many exos would he need to beat xeroc

sleek halo
real silo
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17 thanatoses

late veldt
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Even though. humans. in real life. have figured it out. and we haven't figured out infinite free energy

sleek halo
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considering that only the combined power of them

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equal Scal

late veldt
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Hell he knows what DNA is

sleek halo
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a single exo mech

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would be far too weak

spring helm
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What about Draedon’s cloning makes you think he’s not good at it

sleek halo
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so he’d need to be replicating 4 a lot of time

real silo
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5 sets of exo mechs

sleek halo
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also becuase they’re individuals

real silo
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20 tons of exo prism

sleek halo
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they can be dealt with far easier

split mortar
real silo
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This is why I want brimstone mechs

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Imagine scal level firepower but scaled up to mechs size

late veldt
sleek halo
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regardless.. at the end of the day

late veldt
real silo
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Not enough

sleek halo
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literally is what they are

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:sob

real silo
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Scal is absolutely way stronger than apollo alone

split mortar
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Ot was a complete success at being a clone

late veldt
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Why is calclone inside of the eyemech anyways?

spring helm
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Life support

late veldt
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Ah

split mortar
sleek halo
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But Imo

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Draedon would never wanna kill Xeroc

spring helm
split mortar
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But yeah they in some life support thing

sleek halo
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Xeroc isnjust

late veldt
sleek halo
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too interesting to just

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wanna kill

real silo
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I'm talking giving each mech the ability to summon brothers and sepulchers and soul seekers and whispering maelstroms

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And 15 second bullet spams

sleek halo
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Strongest god by far, seemingly has a domain over the sun

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being extremely mysterious to the point that Draedon didn’t know of him

split mortar
sleek halo
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well I mean it’s more like “I wanna know about you”

split mortar
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Oh sun

sleek halo
void zealot
real silo
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Draedon would bother xeroc

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Send scouts like tiny flies

sleek halo
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maybe

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I mean tbf Xeroc might enjoy the company

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bro been alone for a fat minute swemingly

split mortar
real silo
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The real question is would draedon bother silva too

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Once she revives

sleek halo
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maybe

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though she’d be far less receptive than Xeroc

real silo
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Meanie plant

void zealot
split mortar
void zealot
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wha

real silo
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Exos can probably turn silva into grass again

split mortar
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The sun is just fucked up and weird in calamity

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Its light is wacky

sleek halo
void zealot
light linden
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been wondering

split mortar
light linden
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why is perrenial so weak compared to uelibloom?

real silo
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Golem uses fire not light

split mortar
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Dont think so?

void zealot
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ohh

split mortar
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^
Prob that

dusk laurel
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uelibloom is fake

light linden
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is silva not a far stronger god?

real silo
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we don't know what in hell perennial is

split mortar
void zealot
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plant thing

light linden
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yeah and it's from silva

split mortar
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Like a tree bark

sleek halo
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counterpoint

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Braelor & Primordial Wyrm

light linden
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?

split mortar
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What about them?

dusk laurel
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Stronger than Providence

split mortar
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That proves the point theyre strong

sleek halo
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Both blessed by Silva

real silo
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you're also forgetting silva armor

sleek halo
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true

real silo
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which is straight up better than the eventual profaned armor

split mortar
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Perennial biome may just be a lightly blessed area

sleek halo
light linden
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I'm not talking about silva armor

real silo
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Perennial is probably some peasant shit silva gave to her villagers

light linden
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I'm talking about perennial

dusk laurel
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Perennial doesn't seem to really be silva's essence when she dies

light linden
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also

real silo
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what's the existing lore for perennial anyways

dusk laurel
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profaned however appears after you kill Provi

real silo
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I keep forgetting

dusk laurel
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I know

light linden
dusk laurel
real silo
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crazy

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Better wait for trinaglle to rework it

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Same with stinkybloom

sleek halo
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so real

dusk laurel
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perennial biome will be a thing yk

light linden
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ngl

real silo
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you will be a thing

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!

dusk laurel
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Stip apparently revealed some vague similarities with it and the vernal pass

dusk laurel
sleek halo
light linden
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I kinda wish perrenial was around the abyss

real silo
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your pantaloons would never be aflame

light linden
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not in the abyss but an ore that specifically only spawned near the abyss

real silo
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Win

dusk laurel
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Okay but like, Silva isn't always in the abyss

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If everything related to her is just there, that'd wouldn't make any sense

void zealot
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does the adult eidolon wyrm drop anything useful?

light linden
dusk laurel
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Twice

light linden
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for a long time

real silo
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pinky worm drops halibut cannon

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That is its only unique drop

light linden
split mortar
real silo
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dlow

void zealot
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is it good?

dusk laurel
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No

light linden
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neat gun, lags games when combines with godslayer slugs

real silo
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it's funny

void zealot
split mortar
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Its funky and usable though ranger in general sucks post game iirc

light linden
void zealot
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is it mage?

split mortar
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Rapid fire shotgun that fires like 50 bullets

dusk laurel
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No

split mortar
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Ranger

light linden
void zealot
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im struggling with boss rush S-Cal, so i need to find a better weapon than Eternity

dusk laurel
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Smth smth lore discussion

light linden
void zealot
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i guess its an unrelated topic

split mortar
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Also use oblatory

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The enchant

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From scal

real silo
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oblatory more like

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obligatory

void zealot
real silo
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Oblatory is for mage

split mortar
real silo
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stinky

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It's probably the single strongest enchant

void zealot
split mortar
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Oblatory is not a weapon

real silo
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oblatory is not a weapon

void zealot
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godda-

solar wharf
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exact same sentence

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the only difference is the capitalized O

split mortar
void zealot
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ohh

split mortar
void zealot
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ive been using bloodthirsty

real silo
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You can put it on any mage weapon

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Bloodthirsty on eternity is silly

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but yes use oblatory

void zealot
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im very unfamiliar with enchants and endgame weapons

split mortar
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Oblatory on eternity seems extra strong since you cast it once dont you?

real silo
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everyone is unfamiliar with them because they mostly suck

void zealot
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eternity is really weird

split mortar
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Also demonshades enrage ability is strong

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Over double damage

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For not even a 30% damage taken boost

void zealot
real silo
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what if the canon reason oblatory is better than other enchants is because scal is a mage so she's better at enchanting stuff to fit mages better

void zealot
dusk laurel
# light linden for a long time

Okay but then, what makes you think they won't do this?

I kinda wish perrenial was around the abyss
You did hear that they are adding a whole biome for perennial, right

split mortar
void zealot
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yea, nanomachines for health boost

split mortar
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Fair that is wuite strong

void zealot
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should i go warding or menecing on my accessories>?

dusk laurel
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usually warding

real silo
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always warding

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I am totally not biased

dusk laurel
void zealot
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i figured

dusk laurel
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Warding is superior

split mortar
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Best to not get nuked by mods (verbal warn) for being off topic

dusk laurel
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Also it kinda accidentally derailed a lore convo

split mortar
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Eh

dusk laurel
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You can't read

dusk laurel
real silo
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What if hellbound was created because scal accidentally put bombs in her minions

split mortar
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Lol

dusk laurel
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We don't know

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That update is still decently far out

late veldt
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why do we spare one calamitas but not the other

void zealot
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if i shoot s-cal with an uzi, would she even care since shes so powerful?

robust osprey
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depends

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depends if she have shield on or not

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no shield uh

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yeah

split mortar
robust osprey
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if no shield depends on where you shoot

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chest/head it's over

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for scal

late veldt
robust osprey
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she probably has an invisible shield

split mortar
robust osprey
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too much people which may be dangerous

void zealot
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first time i fought s-cal, when she didnt die and became an npc, im just like, what was all that for

robust osprey
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  • the king of the kingdom that you killed
split mortar
robust osprey
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she is NOT safe there

void zealot
split mortar
void zealot
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that fucker kills all my npcs except for permafrost and s-cal

split mortar
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I dont rember what amidias has

indigo glade
dusk laurel
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960000 iirc

robust osprey
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I headcanon he has an invisible shield while npc beacuse she doesnt trust people there

split mortar
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Fair

void zealot
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s-cal likes to be alone

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shes never around any of the others

dusk laurel
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Permafrost:

robust osprey
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she is NOT safe

late veldt
split mortar
void zealot
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wouldnt plaguebringer in theory beat s-cal for having nukes

split mortar
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Time before they come back

split mortar
robust osprey
dusk laurel
robust osprey
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weak in terms of nukes

void zealot
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maybe planet level

split mortar
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Also nukes vary a lot

dusk laurel
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no

split mortar
late veldt
dusk laurel
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Not even Draedon made a nuke like the ones irl

split mortar
dusk laurel
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Too sloppy and impractical

split mortar
void zealot
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fuck it, ill throw a rock at her and see what happens

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fuck you calamitas

robust osprey
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further Scal can go in around town or something, she fucked up a whole kingdom

robust osprey
dusk laurel
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Yeah

robust osprey
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around that age yes

dusk laurel
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around that

void zealot
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thats why theres so much suggestive art of her

dusk laurel
void zealot
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i was really creeped out by it

dusk laurel
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Let's not talk about this please

void zealot
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like jesus, thats a child

robust osprey
void zealot
split mortar
mighty zenith
robust osprey
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an actual nuke, not pbg nuke clueless

void zealot
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alright

robust osprey
void zealot
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i still kinda hate her cause she wouldnt drop heresy, so i had to fight her like 20 times

split mortar
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Terraria luck moment

void zealot
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so, pardon the s-cal hate

robust osprey
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Scal is so me fr...I just killed a whole kingdom earlier...

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I killed atlantis

void zealot
split mortar
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slobbyjoy this an emote?

light linden
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do we know why yharim is so tall?

split mortar
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Irl humans have been taller

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So uh

light linden
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is he not 9 feet tall?

split mortar
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Peoppe just be like that

split mortar
light linden
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oh

split mortar
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Tallest person recorded was just shy of 9 foot iirc

dusk laurel
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Yharim also has some advantages

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Being on military campaign for over a century

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Being in his physical prime for that entire time

split mortar
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Yeah thats just shy

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Cause an extra inch is 9 foot

late veldt
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how old was yharim when he got dunked anyways?

dusk laurel
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Probably as a teenager or young adult

split mortar
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So

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Uh

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Bit before then

mighty zenith
sleek halo
mighty zenith
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and he's SLAYIN

sleek halo
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he fills out his form entirely

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like yharim is bulky

manic coral
light linden
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hi cei

split mortar
indigo glade
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Fuck, I don't know.

sleek halo
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unlike little almost every other incredibly tall person ever

indigo glade
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The helmet gives him height, alright?

light linden
split mortar
sleek halo
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like unnaturally tall

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Yharim is a fucking unit

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which is honestly more unnatural than his height

split mortar
sleek halo
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well tbf I doubt Yharim was in all of them

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unless it’s a key battle/involved killing a god

split mortar
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Yharim needs to be buffer in his concept art

late veldt
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do Humans live longer in calamity or is Yharim built different

split mortar
sleek halo
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considering he’s attuned to a dragon

split mortar
sleek halo
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Also the fact he remains

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in his physical prime

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the entire time

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still is in it lol

split mortar
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Permafrost uses devious and fucked up magics to live longer (slowing his aging)

dusk laurel
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500+ years

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Almost as old as Draedon

sleek halo
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I kinda just imagine Yharim pulls a Saiyan and rapidly ages

mighty zenith
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yea same

sleek halo
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last few years

mighty zenith
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or his body just

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shuts off

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completely

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when he dies

sleek halo
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yeah

mighty zenith
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imagine fighting yharim and he just suddenly drops dead on the ground like a killbind

sleek halo
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LOL

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ragdoll too

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gmod type physics

mighty zenith
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i disagree

late veldt
dusk laurel
sleek halo
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yk something..

late veldt
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ah damn

sleek halo
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best way to prove that DoG doesn’t contain any of the god essence

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it doesn’t scatter everywhere like WoF

split mortar
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True

dusk laurel
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Wait that's actually really true

split mortar
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We got confirmation it tps away

sleek halo
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which means

dusk laurel
plucky lichen
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Is there any calamity specific lore about the hallowed biome

split mortar
sleek halo
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it’s basically a way to show that Yharim is inherently wrong about all gods being evil

split mortar
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Meaning hundreds of good people had to be slain by yharim for that thing to exist

sleek halo
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mahbe not hundreds

plucky lichen
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Ohhhhh ok

sleek halo
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but a lot

split mortar
sleek halo
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no reason for it to be that high

split mortar
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So yes

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It can be hundreds

sleek halo
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differing dev statements

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some iirc believe there was less then a 1000

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which imo is more believable due to how all encompassing some are

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like death & life

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or gravity

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flame and frost

plucky lichen
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Is scal a different race than human? Or is it her power that caused her to have the ashy skin and horns

sleek halo
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shadow and primordial light mixed into one

plucky lichen
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Or do we just not know

sleek halo
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they’re ppl just

plucky lichen
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Ahhhhh ok

split mortar
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She is a human

sleek halo
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^

plucky lichen
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Ahhhh ok ok

dusk laurel
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They have grey skin and horns, but other than that they are very similar

robust osprey
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azafurians are humans but they live on literal hell

void zealot
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so theyre not demons?

dusk laurel
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Nope

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Demons already exist

robust osprey
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demons are red

plucky lichen
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I’m pretty new to calamity lore and stuff so I didn’t know that azafurians was a whole different ethnicity

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That’s really cool

dusk laurel
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When most states are just cities and not large expanses of land, and Azafure was in a very deep lava cavern, it makes sense

late veldt
dusk laurel
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Not all Azafurians are the same

split mortar
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^

dusk laurel
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Only some looked like that

late veldt
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do all azafurians(race) also have grey-white hair like cal?

dusk laurel
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Since Azafure was such a large and influential city, there's bound to be migrants

plucky lichen
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Is there any lore behind the player? Apart from the fact that you’re basically cleaning up after yharim’s big mess. Or is that up to player interpretation

dusk laurel
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The player is a blank slate

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You can make up their lore

split mortar
dusk laurel
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Explodes you

plucky lichen
split mortar
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THE TERRARIAN IS YOU

stoic gulch
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Guhoy

mighty zenith
magic epoch
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if you name the world and the player, are you also the world?

split mortar
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The world is terraria

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You dont name the world

magic epoch
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n

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you are NOT the world!

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you are not the father backflip gif

split mortar
magic epoch
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my chatacter is named the world

stoic gulch
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So when I battle you

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It’s my favorite song

late veldt
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If your character is the world

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that means your character is owned by Miku

stoic gulch
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If your character is owned by hatsune Miku…

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Then hatsune miku is YOU

light linden
#

Y'all think Permafrost would enjoy talking to or be perplexed by Luna Snow?

late veldt
light linden
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yes

stoic gulch
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I have no clue about her lore

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I mean maybe

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But ice mana is a thing

wheat walrus
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Hatsune Miku is everything and owns everything

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the Terrarian however

light linden
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she's a k-pop star with ice powers that can both heal and harm

wheat walrus
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the Terrarian is YOU

late veldt
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how much damage could Permafrost do to Calamitas before he kicks it

split mortar
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Hatsune miku is the terrarian and the terrarian is YOU therefore hatsune miku IS YOU ASWELL

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MEANING WE ARE ALL

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AND OWN ALL

late veldt
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are you about to start a cult?

split mortar
late veldt
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yes they are fighting

split mortar
late veldt
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to the death

split mortar
split mortar
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And i been around for like half a year

stoic gulch
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Guh

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You are the TERRARIAN IS YOU guy

split mortar
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Lol

late veldt
split mortar
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I got warned over that meme lol

split mortar
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Idk the deep intricacies of miku lore

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I just know they a funny voice you can download to say silly stuff or something

late veldt
stoic gulch
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I would love Hatsune Miku if I started listening

stoic gulch
late veldt
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I am a dog not Jigglypuff Kirby

stoic gulch
late veldt
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Is Calamitas her birth name or is that a given title

indigo glade
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Given title.

split mortar
robust osprey
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imagine being named calamity

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that would be lame

stark basalt
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why do i not have image perms

mighty zenith
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stolen

split mortar
stark basalt
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i cant send them anywhere

mighty zenith
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warned role

split mortar
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Oh right yeah youre the one who said a weird joke

Youre warned

stark basalt
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thats stupid

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removing image perms

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how am i supposed to get help

mighty zenith
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asking

pliant ruin
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meow

mighty zenith
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you dont need image perms to talk

stark basalt
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you...

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😡

light linden
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why does yharim look vaguely like ow1 bastion in that lmao

split mortar
dusk laurel
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mrrrrp

pliant ruin
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nya

stark basalt
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i have no idea why they even muted me anyway

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the moment i mention something a little weird about scal the mods go crazy

pliant ruin
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mrrp

split mortar
stark basalt
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its like they worship her or sm

split mortar
pliant ruin
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"a little weird" brother that was a nsfw comment in a server with children

split mortar
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im literally below 18

light linden
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do I wanna know the context?

pliant ruin
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no

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you don't

split mortar
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I know multiple people younger then me

pliant ruin
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you're making your case worse

stark basalt
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you're gonna censor pregnancy

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just like that

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weird

robust osprey
light linden
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I think I'm piecing things together and uh

pliant ruin
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If you're not moving on i'm afraid you may have worse in store rather than just a warn which dosen't even significantly affect you in any way

split mortar
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vanillin, goose and skelli are all younger then me

split mortar
pliant ruin
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i'm old and senile

light linden
stark basalt
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whatever i need my image perms back

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are they gone forever or sm

robust osprey
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nuh

mighty zenith
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then wait for the warn to run out

robust osprey
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1 month

split mortar
stark basalt
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oh

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👍

dusk laurel
pliant ruin
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yooo children of the city started playing

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banger

dusk laurel
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Facts

hoary cape
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Sorry melon but I got to ban you for that mistake now

mighty zenith
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chease are you perhaps drunk

split mortar
pliant ruin
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WHAT

split mortar
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I just got unwarned

light linden
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@pliant ruin you

pliant ruin
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i just said a song i like started playing 😭

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hiii

mighty zenith
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cherse are you perhaps sober

pliant ruin
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i am in fact sober

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i should get drunk sometime

hoary cape
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Cheese is drunk

pliant ruin
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it would be funny

mighty zenith
#

lies

hoary cape
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On cheese

mighty zenith
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you are drunk cause i said so

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🍷

robust osprey
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loreful

pliant ruin
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i am unfortunately running out of vodka though

sleek halo
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Hello ppl

pliant ruin
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also das true

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thisi snt very loreous

sleek halo
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What the fuck did I just join to

split mortar
sleek halo
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You’re all banned

stoic gulch
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Cryogen is a prison made from scal right

mighty zenith
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yes

pliant ruin
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ye

stoic gulch
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Thank you

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My friend is stupid I

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Explode

mighty zenith
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what do yall think is cal's actual name

pliant ruin
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emily or melissa

deft valve
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carl samthebaf

stoic gulch
mighty zenith
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good names

robust osprey
stoic gulch
deft valve
pliant ruin
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i like to think that scal and permafrost didn't even fight

light linden
dusk laurel
mighty zenith
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i dont think them fighting would make sense anywau

deft valve
stoic gulch
dusk laurel
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Okay small fish

mighty zenith
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maybe cal expected him to fight her but he ended up accepting her locking him up

pliant ruin
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like more so they had a conversation and it resulted in perma letting cal emprison him

light linden
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anyways, I'm going back to attempting to beat jevil

deft valve
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no

robust osprey
stoic gulch
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If you don’t like permafrost

pliant ruin
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calling im a boy feels too young he's our uh
our grandpa

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our guy

dusk laurel
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Perma is older than everyone here

stoic gulch
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No

robust osprey
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he's my dad

stoic gulch
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He’s my boy

dusk laurel
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You're a small bird

mighty zenith
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HyperYharimJudge: gonna prank calamitas when she comes back from killing permafrost

stoic gulch
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I am skellitron

pliant ruin
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i think i'm the oldest in chat right now but i could be wrong

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call me

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permacheese

mighty zenith
pliant ruin
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cheesefrost

split mortar
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Yur wat

19 or 21 ish idk

pliant ruin
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whar the fuck

pliant ruin
mighty zenith
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which one...

pliant ruin
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well

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still at the 19 mark currently but give me like 2 months and ill be right at the middle

stoic gulch
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My cat is 100 bajillion years old

deft valve
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true

mighty zenith
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damn youre older than me by like a month

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well
i was born at the start of november so idk actually

robust osprey
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I just turned 16 a month ago

stoic gulch
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Damn you guys are like two minutes old idk I forgot what comes after two

pliant ruin
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20 year old cheese isnt real and cant hurt you

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20 year old cheese

split mortar
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Ok half life

sleek halo
split mortar
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Yes

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You even guessed my age correctly

sage elbow
pliant ruin
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same

split mortar
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Im gonna turn 18 this year

wheat walrus
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19

split mortar
robust osprey
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damn

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I feel smal

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I just turned 16 this year

split mortar
robust osprey
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I dont feel small now

thick slate
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skelli is WHAT

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forget thats an allowed age

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should be like 15 to be on social media 💔

mighty zenith
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should be 99 💔

thick slate
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should be never

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hate this place

robust osprey
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true

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coke spelling facts

split mortar
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Vanillin is also like 16

dusk laurel
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I turn 16 in october

spring helm
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Actual children in the chat rn

dusk laurel
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Hellow old man

random mulch
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gonna be 19 next month

robust osprey
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cant believe I'm older than vanillin

spring helm
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Feels like back in 2009 when I was on TF2 yelling at people 10 years older than me with voice chat

split mortar
dusk laurel
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:/

pliant ruin
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😭 😭 😭

thick slate
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HAHAH

split mortar
spring helm
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Lmao

pliant ruin
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NOT BEATING THE GRANDMA ALLEGATIONS

thick slate
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yea cheese is actually old grandma

robust osprey
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I thought cheese was around 24 ngl

indigo glade
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You are all young.

pliant ruin
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ok thats more reasonable

light linden
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wait grandma?

split mortar
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I dont think i have seen anyone older then popcorn

dusk laurel
spring helm
dusk laurel
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Merkalto is 79 wdym

split mortar
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I didnt know fabsols age

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I dont cyberstalk people

light linden
spring helm
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LMAO

robust osprey
split mortar
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The yuri person???

light linden
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yes?

robust osprey
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cheese's last name is yuri

split mortar
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Cheeses name is parmiigianoreggiano

light linden
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I'm

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I'm gonna go

dusk laurel
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Cheese literally has her pronouns listed on her profile

split mortar
spring helm
dusk laurel
split mortar
late veldt
thick slate
robust osprey
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also why are calbros named like that

thick slate
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cause its cool as fuck

split mortar
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Considering everyone who would have known her name got literally nuked

Only higher ups in yharims army may know her real name

robust osprey
split mortar
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We suck at it

robust osprey
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ah

spring helm
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Calamitas came up with it because she saw an opportunity to be cool

thick slate
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why is there no one in lore

split mortar
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And therefore so do you

thick slate
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named like

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john

dusk laurel
spring helm
thick slate
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no

spring helm
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yes

dusk laurel
robust osprey
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about calbros

dusk laurel
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I haven't heard of that name in months

robust osprey
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or the fact that she can summon them

dusk laurel
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Maybe we call them that

indigo glade
robust osprey
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fair

late veldt
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what is the purpose of the Wulfrum bots anyways

indigo glade
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Be a nuisance.

robust osprey
split mortar
spring helm
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Tbf I think they do a pretty good job

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If one considers the Terrarian at the beginning of the game to be of average strength (or perhaps even higher) compared to the common person, even a small group can be a huge threat

late veldt
split mortar
split mortar
spring helm
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True

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But what about their supply lines

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And if they are similarly armed, that’s weaponry and munitions diverted from troops in active combat.

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If just the threat of Wulfrum bots being around forces Yharim’s army to expend more resources than originally necessary, I think that’s a job well done

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Especially considering how cheep they are to make

late veldt
dusk laurel
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arsenal tier 1

split mortar
indigo glade
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Wrong.

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Tier one of the Arsenal were used by laboratory personnel for self-defense purposes.

dusk laurel
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👍

indigo glade
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"The weaponry I supply to the workers of the laboratories is weak. Hardly suited for battle.
However, they suffice for self defense against any lab mechanisms or creations which may have gone rogue." -Sunken Sea Schematic

split mortar
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Lol

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So the wulfrum guys could be killed in the hundreds to thousands by actual warriors before any problems arise lol

dusk laurel
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I honestly forgot t1 was just for personnel

spring helm
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Wulfrum bots are basically made of scrap

dusk laurel
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Yeah

light linden
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t2 is the one used by infantry iirc

indigo glade
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Spent 0.1% of charge for twenty Wulfrums.

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How will this affect our army?

spring helm
dusk laurel
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Not used by the army

dusk laurel
late veldt
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who made the Wulfrums then? aside from John wulfrum of course

split mortar
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How will this effect the trout population

dusk laurel
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The wulfrum siblings

dusk laurel
stark basalt
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So were all Azafurians aside from Calamitas wiped out during the destruction of Azafure?

dusk laurel
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Like 99.9%

stark basalt
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Was it ever alluded that any survived?

stark basalt
dusk laurel
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The guide for example is a survivor

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Although that isn't mentioned ingame yet

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iirc the demolitionist might also be Azafurian? haven't read that dev message in a good minute

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The tax collector is also Azafurian

stark basalt
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So Azafurian isn't just a race.

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I figured that those that came from Azafure looked like Calamitas

dusk laurel
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Azafurian is a race, just not all of them

stark basalt
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gotcha gotcha

dusk laurel
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Like you said, there were people who were more similar to Calamitas, but they seemed to be mostly gone now

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Who knows how many were outside of the city or got away before it was destroyed

stark basalt
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I imagine that has to be some at the very least. Cause they were transporting brimstone to the surface

indigo glade
dusk laurel
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Yes

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I was not trying to say it was only one or the other

stark basalt
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Yeah I was unaware that there were other races living in Azafure

split mortar
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It was the biggest city
Migrants would have happened

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People would have left and come

stark basalt
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You think they used Hellvators? lol

dusk laurel
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I imagine a lot of Azafurians migrated or colonized other spots in the Underworld

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Albeit smaller and more self-contained

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Since they aren't near the haven below the Abyss, unlike the home city

split mortar
mighty zenith
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there were a ton of underground cities iirc

hollow isle
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more so than stuff on the surface?

mighty zenith
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though a lot of the population moved out to the surface after dragons disappeared

hollow isle
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ah

mighty zenith
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since xeroc weakened the sun

split mortar
dusk laurel
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Well

mighty zenith
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(and also less giant flying lizards that can eat you)

dusk laurel
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Dragons, other animals, and plants were already on the surface

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It was just that humans and other similar species (maybe) were not there

hollow isle
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so people just made their homes underground

mighty zenith
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yep

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thats what the cabins are for instance

hollow isle
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were the dragons hostile toward people?

mighty zenith
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some

dusk laurel
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Some were

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Some not

hollow isle
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makes sense

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that explains why so much of the architecture in game is underground

split mortar
dusk laurel
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We don't know that

hollow isle
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is there more confirmed stuff than just what's in the pinned doc

dusk laurel
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All we know was that it was brighter

robust osprey
robust osprey
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then you have the lore provided by devs

dusk laurel
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Since the next update has been taking so long, the writers have been giving us snippets

mighty zenith
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devs pop in to give some extra lore but if something isn't in-game its not canon

dusk laurel
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It isn't fully canon until implementation

hollow isle
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ok so the stuff in game is the only stuff thats 100% canon right now

dusk laurel
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yes

mighty zenith
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yes

hollow isle
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and then devs come in and say stuff thats like 90% probably gonna be canon eventually

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but is not yet

patent rover
hollow isle
dusk laurel
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That's the only guaranteed way for lore to not be changed or retconned

hollow isle
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which it is

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and has been

dusk laurel
hollow isle
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ah so they never plan to do that again

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thats a good thing

mighty zenith
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thank you stip, very cool!

cosmic zenith
dusk laurel
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Ravager for example, it its current state, is barely canon, save for the lore item

dusk laurel
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yes

mighty zenith
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correct

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the design and boss fight are outdated

dusk laurel
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but the old lore has already been retconned

mighty zenith
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but its lore won't be changed

hollow isle
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ok so his in game elements are getting like almost completely overhauled

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but the lore stays

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cool

mighty zenith
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the lore itself wont be retconned anymore, just the way its communicated/represented basically

dusk laurel
mighty zenith
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like the lore items bosses drop, wont be a thing eventually

mighty zenith
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you'll get that info in a way that makes it more clear it's biased and that you're actually getting the info from Yharim and not some third-person unnamed entity

dusk laurel
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I can't wait to go on side quests for more rock emails from Yharim

mighty zenith
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rocktsapp

hollow isle
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yeah i recall reading that

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i read like the entire big doc earlier today

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thats cool i like that idea

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wait so the ravager is like a reincarnation of the god of sacrifice or something right

hollow isle
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ah so they tried and it made that

dusk laurel
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Necromancy is inherently flawed

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Sure, it became stronger, but the GoS' soul was gone

hollow isle
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so a stronger reincarnation of a god is still weaker than moon lord

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huh

dusk laurel
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It's getting retiered

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post-Providance

hollow isle
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yeah but in the current canon

dusk laurel
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Same tier as Polterghast

robust osprey
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slime god is a god anyways

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lmao

hollow isle
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true

dusk laurel
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(Even if it's still ingame)

robust osprey
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slime god was strong in the nerd way anyways

robust osprey
dusk laurel
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Yep

hollow isle
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does it say anywhere what is and isnt canon

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thats in game

dusk laurel
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Retconned things, dedicated content, crossover content

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This isn't said ingame, but all 3 of the writers have stated this, so yeah

split mortar
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Providence who can be your second post ml boss is one of the strongest gods

dusk laurel
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(Also like, Ravager still gets buffed to be post-Providance rn)

split mortar
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^

mighty zenith
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yeah moon lord is still strong as fuck even with half his damn body gone

dusk laurel
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Imagine losing your legs, and you go from post-Noxus to post-Deus

hollow isle
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most of his skin and organs if he had any

split mortar
dusk laurel
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Still a massive drop

hollow isle
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someone should make an add on mod where we fight full power ml

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does he have a name or is it just moon lord

dusk laurel
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No name

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Just titles given to it by people

split mortar
split mortar
hollow isle
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we beat a dragon

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why not

dusk laurel
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So

hollow isle
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one of the stronger ones

split mortar
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And also

dusk laurel
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Moon Lord at full power bested hundreds to thousands of dragons

robust osprey
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moonlord killed 9293 dragons

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we killed 1

dusk laurel
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And Yharon is an exception in terms of strength

hollow isle
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is that a canon number

dusk laurel
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No

split mortar
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The main writer thinks it was 3K dragons

pliant ruin
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eats yharon

robust osprey
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no I smashed my keyboard

split mortar
robust osprey
split mortar
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Either way

dusk laurel
hollow isle
dusk laurel
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yes

split mortar
hollow isle
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see we beat dragon #2

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whos to say we cant take fovos

split mortar
dusk laurel
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4 robots are stronger than Yharon when put together

robust osprey
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and moonlord beat dragon #1 and a bunch others

dusk laurel
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A middle age woman is stronger than Yharon

hollow isle
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but yea

robust osprey
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theyre 4 robots

dusk laurel
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Some nobody in the dragon's Aerie is stronger than Yharon, I can go on

robust osprey
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distortion rat is stronger than yharon..

split mortar
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Yharim only has attunement which afawk only gives the auric pass

So a regular guy is nearly as strong as the number 1 dragon

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Regular guy with training but still

hollow isle
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having attunement makes him not a regular guy anymore no?

dusk laurel
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Okay well, dev statements have said it does a couple other things

split mortar
split mortar
dusk laurel
split mortar
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Ah

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Anything else???

dusk laurel
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Not sure

hollow isle
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isnt he kinda old

dusk laurel
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130 ish

hollow isle
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oh yeah

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pretty old

split mortar
hollow isle
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also like

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how strong are people/entities in this supposed to be relatively speaking

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ive heard various opinions

split mortar
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Scal is below low country

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Since it takes her weeks to months to boil half of illmeris

dusk laurel
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From the best powerscaler here, no one in Calamity can quickly destroy a planet

split mortar
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Xeroc and noxus may but thats cause we dunno where they scale

dusk laurel
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Xeroc is continent-multi continent level ish

split mortar
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And the best guess uses normal light and is uh, shaky at best in logic iirc

hollow isle
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oh thats far from what ive heard

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wow

split mortar
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Old lore was much higher

dusk laurel
hollow isle
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i heard cal was 2-C+

dusk laurel
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Old lore was wack

hollow isle
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who lied to me

split mortar
hollow isle
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oh was old cal 2-C maybe

split mortar
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Idfk

dusk laurel
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Xeroc in the old lore was an omnipotent god or smth

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Now he's just a chill guy

split mortar
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I was like 13 when i last read old lore and i was not proficient at knowing it

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Well xeroc did just remove the sun in that providence what if from the head lore writer…

hollow isle
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i would not describe him as a "chill guy"

split mortar
dusk laurel
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He's a chill guy, cmon

robust osprey
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WotG Nameless Deity is a good representation of old lore xeroc

split mortar
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But i fuck with chill xeroc

dusk laurel
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Just read the BR dialogue

robust osprey
split mortar
dusk laurel
split mortar
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^

hollow isle
dusk laurel
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And even then, it has become its own thing from old lore Xeroc

split mortar
robust osprey
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tru

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xeroc is chill grandpa fr

hollow isle
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so what im understanding from this convo is

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goku solos

split mortar
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Yes

dusk laurel
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yeah

split mortar
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When hasnt goku solod…

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Calamity afaik at max in old lore was below goku

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Except for old lore xeroc