lore-discussion

[mighty zenith]

one of them absolutely despises him

the other doesnt care about him, besides wondering how the world would change if he died

so uhh

i think draedon?

[gritty kraken]

I’ve heard about ares being built to mimic/counter yharim

[magic zenith]

Is roar of the jungle dragon canon?

[dusk laurel]

Yeah

except for the name

[magic zenith]

He's not dragon?

[dusk laurel]

He's not a jungle dragon

[magic zenith]

Or because he doesn't roar but yapps like a chicken?

[dusk laurel]

Just a normal dragon with an inconspicuous soul

[prime mauve]

yap of the jungle dragon

[mighty zenith]

what happeend to your name

[dusk laurel]

Draconic tongue

[gray tulip]

you know i just realized

it does kinda seem like there's a missing exo mech

1, 3, 5, and 9 are the numbers used

feels like 7 would fit in there, no? so you have a full band of odd numbers?

[dusk laurel]

The elusive third exo triplet...

[real silo]

7 is hypnos

[gray tulip]

whar is hypnos

[real silo]

This guy doesn't know about hypnos

Exo brain

[gray tulip]

god of sleep i know that

[magic zenith]

https://x.com/pooper_worm/status/1828849477110903229?t=6wVTTj5XX0briS-VaDwx6w&s=19

No embed, unfortunate

[dusk laurel]

Those who construct

[magic zenith]

No image sending permissions, love to see this!

[gray tulip]

i clicked the link dw

[magic zenith]

Nice ip buddy

[gray tulip]

personally my oc is ||XB-07 Asclepius|| based on the idea that maybe... just maybe... the plaguebringer goliath represents the blight soul

as opposed to the Bdark Soul

asclepius being the god of medicine

[real silo]

god of medicine representing the exact opposite of medicine doesn't make sense

[manic coral]

See this is the sorta stuff I enjoy getting people to think about

[gray tulip]

last i checked the god of music doesn't shoot green fire either

[manic coral]

coutnerpoint:

fire mixtapes

(literal)

[real silo]

Apollo is god of many things

[gray tulip]

no no you're right

[manic coral]

apollo is literally spitting fire

[dusk laurel]

Apollo get the auxcord

[real silo]

Also I like to imagine that apollo is a sort of byproduct of PBG given the green colour and how apollo uses nanomachines to create the fire

Not exactly a direct upgrade

[manic coral]

i mean

[gray tulip]

So is asclepius. he's best known as the god of medicine but he is also the god of disease because those things are linked. and also specific oc details that i don't feel like going into in lore discussion

[manic coral]

that's the literal intention there

[gray tulip]

oh. i didn't know that

[manic coral]

it's an evolution of the tech draedon used to make PBG

[real silo]

Why not just say he's the god of disease then...

Smh

[dusk laurel]

Me when multiple jobs

[real silo]

Steve jobs and who else

[gray tulip]

because no one knows who the god of disease is but if i say asclepius, god of medicine, they immediately think "Oh snake staff guy"

[real silo]

I wouldn't know who you're talking about either way

[dusk laurel]

John jobs, jane jobs, joseph jobs, etc

[real silo]

Greek myth is not common knowledge except for the big names

[gray tulip]

😔

[frigid sage]

The exos are the culmination of all of Draedon’s research right?

[indigo glade]

The numbers are how many revisions the individual mech went through.

[gray tulip]

yeah in universe

in universe i doubt XM stands for Exo-Might either

[frigid sage]

Which mech took 9 revisions

[gray tulip]

ares

skeletron

which makes sense i guess

[frigid sage]

Makes sense

Lots of weapons

Big

[gray tulip]

every time i fight ares i always view the big dot in the center of it as an eye and completely ignore the gundam skeleton face

[frigid sage]

Oh

Huh

Ares gets shredded by the Dynamic Pursuer rogue boomerang

It’s hilarious

(Stealth strikes)

[gray tulip]

What's the current governmental body before we show up

given that illegal gunparts are. Illegal. and "banned in most places"

[dusk laurel]

The Heartlands seemingly don't have any central governments in the area of the continent we play in

We've only encountered ruins

[mighty zenith]

clearly arms dealer just wants to artificially increase the cost

[dusk laurel]

And seeing how most organized states were just cities, and only the most powerful covered large regions, and how the Heartlands are the most fucked place on the planet

I think we can assume it's mostly anarchy

[real silo]

Well even the original mechs used a similar naming scheme

Destroyer is HM-somethingsomething

H being hallowed

[split mortar]

M being might

[real silo]

Wrong

M being melon

[split mortar]

:0

[gray tulip]

where does it say that?

[dusk laurel]

Draetalk

[real silo]

Anyways I've been thinking what if cal's real name was clematis (some sort of flower) and people misheard it as calamitas

[dusk laurel]

Genius

[gray tulip]

reading bestiaries for the first time

is. Is slime god based?

[split mortar]

Maybe they are

[real silo]

Slime god is balancepilled

[gray tulip]

intentionally maintains balance in the world and restrains itself from overindulgence despite i think being god of gluttony?

[real silo]

Slime god is a calamity tierlist tester

[dusk laurel]

Slime God loves game balance

[split mortar]

Slime god

Its in the name

[gray tulip]

then what was the dragon

[split mortar]

Yep

[gray tulip]

isn't gluttony more specific than the extraordinarily vague concept of "slime"?

[split mortar]

Dragon of gluttony

[split mortar]

Slime is specifically referring to the slime enemies we come across everywhere

Not just gooey substance

I think

[gray tulip]

i guess that makes sense

was the entirety of hell azafure or just the brimstone crags

[split mortar]

Crags

[gray tulip]

the rest is just miscellaneous suburbs?

[split mortar]

That or just the wilderness

The underworld is i think a continent sized volcanic cave?

[gray tulip]

well there's buildings everywhere so i doubt it was wilderness

[split mortar]

Theres inly buildings in the 1/3 centrei think

[pliant ruin]

there's buildings everywhere

[split mortar]

So theres still land for wilderness

[pliant ruin]

the only area i think without any is like

[split mortar]

Calamity change that??

[pliant ruin]

ash forest

no

thats just normal

[split mortar]

How big is ash forest?

[pliant ruin]

idk its not that big

[gray tulip]

ash forest isn't too big, if i had to guess its like the 1/10th of the map furtherst away from crags?

wait

if hell is a supermassive volcanic cavern

then that should probably mean there's a supermassive volcano somewhere

do you think its possible that that's the aerie?

[light linden]

no

[split mortar]

We know of a continent thats basically just volcanoes i think

From dev statements

Also aerie is a sky island

[light linden]

there is a literal hellhole continent so it's likely that

[gray tulip]

i see ok

i hope we go there some day

[split mortar]

Unlikely

Its even worse then the heartlands

[light linden]

that's why I wanna go there

oh also

if water literally evaporates in hell, I wonder what would happen if you opened a bottle of alcohol there

[split mortar]

Molotov

[frozen zodiac]

i'd imagine something like when you try to use bomb arrows in the volcano region in botw

[pastel plaza]

[mental narwhal]

my favorite passtime in that game

[tardy sequoia]

hey does anyone understand noxus i hav no idea pls help me

[pliant ruin]

It's a distortion creature and it's really strong and it probably made ceaseless void and it DoG is subservient to it

thats about all we know atm

also the divine essence DoG eats goes to it

[eager bluff]

also we're pretty sure xeroc hates it specifically

[latent flower]

its a militaristic nation from league of legends

[wheat walrus]

I'm sorry for your loss

[wheat walrus]

Destroy that thing pls

[pliant ruin]

:true:?

[noble thunder]

what are you all talking about what

[latent flower]

they talk ab it a lot in arcane

if u haven't watched arcane

watch arcane

[gray tulip]

hey i can't find it, where's the line "draedon prefers his creations to serve, after all"

i know its in one of the lore items

[split mortar]

Aureus i think

[gray tulip]

THANK YOU

[gray tulip]

is the reason there's so many pretty plants in the brimstone crags because silva burrowed into hell

[split mortar]

I dint think she burrowed into there but she did make more life present iirc

But that was before she was a god
-# she got sent to the abyss before

[pliant ruin]

silva essence dripped down there from the abyss

[gray tulip]

she got sent to the abyss before she was a god...?

[split mortar]

And after

Two trips

Atleast

The plants caused by her first trip is why azafure founders picked there iirc

Lots of free food

[gray tulip]

how did she make plants before she was a god

[split mortar]

She was the elemental of nature

Well

[gray tulip]

ohhhhhhhhhh i see

[split mortar]

Is

[gray tulip]

you can double dip being a cool awesome thing

[split mortar]

Elemental and god

[gray tulip]

do you think dragon and god would be possible

[dusk laurel]

yeah

[gray tulip]

like, say yharon killed another dragon, could he double dip on auric souls or would he explode or smth

[dusk laurel]

Likely yes

But this would have likely not happened

[split mortar]

We know gods can ascend multiple times, using other auric souls

They get weaker and start resembling polterghast

-# dev statement

[gray tulip]

LAME

[dusk laurel]

Since story-wise, an auric dragon becoming a god would basically nuke Yharim's narrative that dragons are sinless beings

[gray tulip]

yeah im not saying it did happen

[dusk laurel]

Yah

[gray tulip]

but in a super superficial, non-critical thinking view

it would be SO COOL

[dusk laurel]

Which would hinder his propaganda machine

I do agree it is a cool concept

Triangle's Frost Dragon god addon cough* cough*

[split mortar]

A dragon god is going to be a addon from triangle iirc

[gray tulip]

triangle?

[split mortar]

Cal dev

Well

Spriter

And animator

[gray tulip]

i see

[split mortar]

Idk if they dev

[dusk laurel]

.

Melon do you know what the dev role is

sob

[split mortar]

By dev i mean the coding aspect

[wheat walrus]

if their names are orange or they hold an orange below their mint or whatever else name

[gray tulip]

i like that calamity is so big at this point people skip right over "terraria mod" and make mods for the calamity mod

[manic coral]

unless this yharon somehow didnt already have an auric soul, no

[wheat walrus]

that is a dev

[dusk laurel]

Just say programmer

sob

[wheat walrus]

see melon this is an example

this one has the orange name

this

is a dev!

[split mortar]

Shit yourself

[gray tulip]

cool ok so you can't double dip on auric souls?

[wheat walrus]

shit yourself times two melon gun

[gray tulip]

what about this was melon making this up

[dusk laurel]

Boo

get off the stage

[manic coral]

correct

[wheat walrus]

melon gun the typa dude to play heavy bowgun in monster hunter 💀 xd

[manic coral]

at least if you try to it'll fuck you up

[wheat walrus]

i did that tho

[gray tulip]

im gonna headcanon that they're like devil fruits in one piece

[split mortar]

Auric sauce with the Yharon nuggets when

[gray tulip]

if you eat 2 you just explode

instant death no parole

[manic coral]

@spare pier you're the one piece person im not qualified to confirm

[dusk laurel]

I forgot if I already asked this but
Cei, are there any plans for any of the health upgrades to naturally generate

[gray tulip]

i haven't read one piece i just know vaguely how some things work

[manic coral]

yes

[wheat walrus]

o pezz è reale

[dusk laurel]

Are you allowed to explain more

[manic coral]

idk

[spare pier]

Sort of yeah

The general agreement is that it wouldn't instantly kill you but you'd just basically just turn into a monster and lose all faculties

[split mortar]

With absorbing multiple auric souls?

[spare pier]

Yeah

[split mortar]

i werent

[gray tulip]

oh btw if we kill providence and slime god for real,
Where are the auric souls they stole

if a god is killed does the auric soul it took just fizzle out?

[cloud ibex]

gone

eated

[split mortar]

A god ascending completely destroys the auric soul iirc

No way to retrieve it

[gray tulip]

oh the god consumes the auric soul

i thought they just like

absorbed it, like they were holding onto it for now but it would either fizzle out or be tossed somewhere else when they die

[split mortar]

Nope

[spare pier]

Being real I like the idea of being able to absorb the Godly Essence, but that's more just on the line of "this would probably make a really interesting character"

[split mortar]

Thats why the age of the dragons isnt up despite 98% of gods being dead

[gray tulip]

so auric souls came from the world soul, where'd the world soul come from

[split mortar]

-# did blobs OC atraxis make you think this

[split mortar]

The world or something we dunno

If you are alive you get a soul

The worlds alive

Idk

[gray tulip]

i guess that makes sense

[split mortar]

When will world commit mitosis

[spare pier]

Nah, I just thought it'd be interesting to have a character do that to Providence and then have severe mental problems

[split mortar]

Lol

[gray tulip]

wait where does slime god's essence go. the auric soul can be dead but there's still essence

providence will prolly be going into that ore once uelibloom gets changed

but does slime god just become More Hallow since they're good and balance-pilled

[deft vessel]

Me mentioned

[split mortar]

The god essence biomes we see is of dozens of gods or even hundreds

A single god doesnt have enough essence to do much of an immediate effect unless theyre strong

[gray tulip]

i see ok

i doubt hundreds because literally how many auric souls could there even be

[split mortar]

iirc a number given was 3K dragons

[gray tulip]

HOW

[split mortar]

Though thats prob ancient and not reliable

[split mortar]

The planets big

Lots of shards

[manic coral]

yeah no i write assuming ~3,000

[gray tulip]

but the shards don't represent landmasses, they represent concepts

like Gluttony, Fire, Life

[split mortar]

Uh

Many dragons based on magics i guess

[gray tulip]

and if stars don't count

cause they're out of this world

ok 3000 is a stretch but i guess its possible

[split mortar]

Dragon of starlight when

[spare pier]

I think I could think of 3k Domains

I'm not going to

[gray tulip]

3k is a lot

[wheat walrus]

3k subscribers

[spare pier]

But if I wanted to I probably could

[gray tulip]

yeah i think its possible

[split mortar]

Dragon of cringe video compilations

[deft vessel]

Dragon of chairs

[split mortar]

Dragon of cheerios

[gray tulip]

this does shoot down my brewing "the domains of dragons are based on the in-game biomes" theory

[split mortar]

What could a dragon of primordial light be based on in biomes

Or dragon of rebirth

[gray tulip]

like, Life is jungle, rebirth is forest cause thats where you respawn, death is corruption, gluttony is crimson

light could be the hallow or space

[spare pier]

Rebirth you could easily put on Aerie

[gray tulip]

also that

but its disproven 😔

[split mortar]

True…

[gray tulip]

mod adding 2,995 bosses to account for the rest of the auric souls

[split mortar]

Yharim killed them all

[gray tulip]

how rude

why would he do that

[split mortar]

They ate the nuggets before they were cooked

[split mortar]

So saying possibly 3K ish dragons and thus gods is good?

[spare pier]

I think on average there were a bit less Gods because of a lot of reasons

Botched ritual, killed early, Moon Lord shenanigans...

[split mortar]

Fair

[frigid sage]

How many Auric souls were there?

[spare pier]

This will be a very funny answer

The amount of Dragons + 1

[cosmic zenith]

Idyllic Strawberry spawning on Aerie trees has to happen

[spare pier]

I will not elaborate

[frigid sage]

What?!

[split mortar]

World soul

[spare pier]

No, it's not counting the World Soul

[split mortar]

Noxus???

[dusk laurel]

Is that the new name of Sacred Strawberry

[spare pier]

It's not that deep

And if it was Noxus I would not dare to ever say this

[frigid sage]

Crabulon of course

[cosmic zenith]

Radiance moment where Providence becomes a voice in their head

[split mortar]

THE TERRARIAN WHO IS YOU!!!

[cosmic zenith]

Oh, it's Sacred Strawberry

[spare pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/704694434964439071/1284577245796634675/cat_gets_splash_stupid_idot.gif

[split mortar]

[dusk laurel]

I will blow you up

[split mortar]

Hey

Rude

[wheat walrus]

^can't accept the terrarian is you

[spare pier]

Byeah, it's the number of Dragons + 1 for a very funny reason

[cosmic zenith]

I personally think it's really fucking hard without significant overlap

So my estimate would be a lot lower

At most 1k

[spare pier]

Technically speaking we already have overlap

Life, Death and Rebirth

[split mortar]

Thats a theme not overlap

[wheat walrus]

that's monster hunter

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah, that's not significant overlap

[split mortar]

-# theres no dragon of birth

[wheat walrus]

now drawgon

[cosmic zenith]

I mean something like
Dragon of Water
Dragon of Vapor

[spare pier]

Either way I think it's entirely possible to come up with 3k reasonable Auric Souls specially if we dabble on more metaphysical stuff

[split mortar]

Cloud elemental and anahita:

[spare pier]

Which we already do with Dragon of Gluttony

[wheat walrus]

yippe outerverse scaling for me

[cosmic zenith]

Ehhhhhh

I'm skeptical

3k is a lot

And Auric souls come from natural concepts

[sinful adder]

a lot of them were really small souls with niche concepts

[cosmic zenith]

So stuff like politics doesn't work

[split mortar]

This shows the cal universe considers different states of matter seperate things

[wheat walrus]

just don't give a set official number gng

[spare pier]

It wouldn't exactly need to be completely natural either imo, like

I think we could get away with a Dragon of Silk

[split mortar]

It just needs to effect the world in some way doesnt it

[wheat walrus]

dragon of spiderman

[cosmic zenith]

Silk is natural though

[sinful adder]

dragon of one specific rock

[spare pier]

The funniest way out would be to make Dragons out of specific animals

[split mortar]

No wonder xeroc kept it as a keepsake

[cosmic zenith]

That would be stupid

[split mortar]

DRAGON OF!!!!

Orangutan

[spare pier]

Dragon of Tardigrades 🔥✍️

[sinful adder]

life including all animals makes things more difficult

[split mortar]

Thats life, living

Not the specifics

[spare pier]

Also I have a very specific way of countering that but that's also just how I interpret the division of Auric Souls

[gray tulip]

i actually think Dragon of Arthopods would go hard and i need it now

[spare pier]

Either way making Auric Souls of specific animals would be silly

[cosmic zenith]

Dragon of Slow Cardiac Action Potential

[gray tulip]

you can even reuse the bumblebirb sprite, its economical

[smoky carbon]

never back down, never give up!

[wheat walrus]

dragon of dimethylphenethylamine

[spare pier]

But I still think it's entirely reasonable to make 3k Dragons

Surely there are more than 3k natural things we can describe in our world

[split mortar]

Dragon of fear when

[cosmic zenith]

Without excessive specification or significant overlap, I doubt it

[split mortar]

God of comfort

[cosmic zenith]

Could actually be one

[spare pier]

Dragon of Morning Dew

Actually ngl this would go kinda hard as a more metaphorical thing

[cosmic zenith]

Dragon of Oddly Sentence-like Animal Chitters

[spare pier]

Dragon of Active Supervolcanos

[cosmic zenith]

Dragon of the Tummy Rumblies

[split mortar]

Dragon of tectonics

[cosmic zenith]

Speaking of, I need to come up with some name options for the Flame Dragon, probably

[spare pier]

Dragon of Velociraptor Fossils

[split mortar]

Dragon of garfield comics

[dusk laurel]

Lasagna

[spare pier]

It's either going to be a really generic thing like "Astaroth" or some weird fucking shit like "Gosoythoth"

No inbetween

[gray tulip]

either way, itll end with oth

[sinful adder]

did you know supervolcanoes aren't real

a documentary made them up

[cosmic zenith]

I was actually thinking of drawing upon some Celtic inspirations if possible

[spare pier]

Ow

[gray tulip]

Why celtic for the fire dragon?

[split mortar]

Every word is made up

[spare pier]

My cat scratched me really badly damn

[sinful adder]

yellowstone isn't a supervolcano, it's a regular volcanic system that produced a really big eruption one time

[cosmic zenith]

Because it's ✨ cool ✨

[sinful adder]

volcanic systems don't always produce the same kinds of eruptions, they usually don't

[wheat walrus]

flame dragon is teostra with a bit of fatalis and maybe kulve taroth

[split mortar]

How big is the underworld? All of the heartlands and a bit more?

Dragon of unnecessary official minecraft spinoff games

[cosmic zenith]

(It's actually because Flame Dragon will probably go for a more western vibe, and Celtic mythology is an overlooked European mythology)

[gray tulip]

fair thats cool

[dusk laurel]

Based

[gray tulip]

lindwyrm capable of flying through volcanic tunnels easily

[cloud ibex]

Gorch

[cosmic zenith]

I feel like it could also be a neat bridge between Norse mythology further north, and more Roman/Christian depictions further south

[wheat walrus]

we need a dragon of crustal movements or smth like that to upscale the verse 🔥

[sinful adder]

no

[cosmic zenith]

I'm also aiming at more variety of inspirations for Calamity

[gray tulip]

wait wyrms often inhabited hills yes? itd be cool if that idea was just upscaled for the flame dragon

[wheat walrus]

we definitely do trust 🙏

[cloud ibex]

☹️

[split mortar]

Shakidou:

[sinful adder]

dragon of small earthquakes

[split mortar]

Dragon of deez nuts

[wheat walrus]

waiting for the uni ranges scaling rn 🙏

[wheat walrus]

why do you give a shit

[split mortar]

Ok but thatd be silly

[cosmic zenith]

Chrysadia is Ancient Greece and it really fits, while also being the inspiration I'm most comfortable with
But I've researched some Ancient Egypt stuff for Ilmeris' architecture, the God of Space's name (Shakidou) has Mesopotamian inspirations, and now I wanna look into Celtic myths

[gray tulip]

while a writer is here, question:
Do you think draedon ever kidnapped people to experiment post-PBG or did he stick exclusively to sillicon once yharim said "no no bad"

[split mortar]

Yeah sure

Planets curved it wont matter much

[cosmic zenith]

Well, what would Draedon kidnap people for?

[cloud ibex]

because to be perfectly honest i think you hyper ironically talking about powerscaling all the time is a little annoying

[split mortar]

He may get his data from the plague infected beings

[sinful adder]

wait I thought of something weird

[wheat walrus]

I did that now

🥹

[sinful adder]

what if the planet terraria in calamity isn't round because of being a bunch of rock piled in one place but because it is part of flat geometric space distorted into a sphere

[gray tulip]

see how tech interacts with biology, using carbon based tech rather than sillicone occasionally,
Guy wants to perfect science, that would include human experimentation, no?

[wheat walrus]

mfs getting worked up over me pondering a random idea that amounts to nothing bad or good to anyone

[split mortar]

He already had like 90 years to do medicine research on organic things

And also tech research is showing more promise at quicker advancement i think

So yeah

Better to do tech research right now and bio later then bio now tech later but idk i aint a dev

[cosmic zenith]

It's possible
Really depends on what his project is/what he's trying to accomplish, and what's most practical

[cloud ibex]

if it's not actually all the time and i'm exaggerating i apologize, it just feels very frequent

[wheat walrus]

I'm honestly struggling to even give a shit about apologies at the time

[gray tulip]

having devs pop in every now and then really helps me write my own little fanfics, thank you

[split mortar]

Its like once a day at most i think

Dont think it is that frequent though

[gray tulip]

there are few things on the internet that warm my heart more than attempts at de-escalation

[frigid sage]

Dragon of Polycystic Kidney Disease

[gray tulip]

that did actually make me think of hierarchies of dragons

[split mortar]

Dragon of mario maker 2 levels made by 4 year olds

[cosmic zenith]

No problem! It's our pleasure to help

[gray tulip]

like yeah the dragon of life is top dog but below them is still the dragon of microscopic life, the dragon of forest life, etc.

[split mortar]

Zeratros was dragon king

[frigid sage]

Dragon of Taxes

Dragon of Noodles

[gray tulip]

i mean top dog of all the life dragons, i know the light dragon was super ultra top dog

[split mortar]

Ah ok

[dusk laurel]

I mean life dragon was the oldest

[frigid sage]

Dragon of Helicopters

[dusk laurel]

1st auric dragon ever

[gray tulip]

...which almost makes me think that maybe light is more important in the world than i've been giving it credit for

[frigid sage]

Dragon of Moldy Cheese

[split mortar]

iirc theres a possibility that zeratros has not only primordial light but also the shadows casted by it in domain

[gray tulip]

i guess light is all pervasive, all consuming. everything is touched by light so of course it would be possible

[gray tulip]

you can stop now 🙏

[split mortar]

Dev statement i think

[frigid sage]

Dragon of Cephalopods

[gray tulip]

now THAT would go hard

[frigid sage]

Dragon of Naming Dragon Domains

[split mortar]

Dragon of rain world

[cosmic zenith]

Note that it is Primordial Light, not just light

[split mortar]

Primordial light being the super magic sunlight

[frigid sage]

Dragon of High Quality Memes

[gray tulip]

ohhhh i see

[cosmic zenith]

It's a point of debate

With pros and cons

[split mortar]

Hence why i said possibility

[gray tulip]

here's a thought i had given two points i heard a while back

do you think its possible that providence took the auric soul of fire but just became the god of rage? that meaning, rage is an aspect of fire?

i dont believe it but it could be possible

[split mortar]

Possible with ingame info

I think

-# outside info? Basically confirmed its ash iirc

[gray tulip]

how im thinking about it is providence took fire and has the act of burning. Not heat nor the plasma emitted by burning (fire), but the destruction of the item itself

[gray tulip]

grahhhhhb i hate outside info

[dusk laurel]

Sinless ash

[split mortar]

Tbf i think this logic is close to why ash is popular

Since its whats remained after the fire has destroyed stuff

^^^^^

[dusk laurel]

She doesn't really have many rageful themes imo

[split mortar]

Providence what if from cei

[dusk laurel]

The only things that could count is maybe her "revenge" and definitely when she jumps us

[gray tulip]

What is the rose stone?

is it a new elemental? a reincarnation?

[split mortar]

Whats the rose stone again?

[gray tulip]

the accessory the brimstone elemental drops that summons it to your side

[split mortar]

Ah

I think a fragment of brimmy that yiu hhsve gained control over

Cause brimmy being the element of HEAT

Yeah nah she aint dead

Also i think 1 elemental exists per element

[gray tulip]

rare sand elemental?

[split mortar]

Sand and cloud just hit the nae nae too well and split into many to cover more land

[gray tulip]

oh i see ok

[split mortar]

You fucking understood what i said?

[gray tulip]

if "life" is an element, shouldn't death and rebirth be too

since they form a trinity

[split mortar]

Silva is nature

[gray tulip]

i see

makes sense then

[dusk laurel]

Nature elemental and life goddess

[split mortar]

The elementals are whats needed for nature and silva is nature

I think

[split mortar]

^

[dusk laurel]

Basically the other 4 elements need to exist for nature to

Since they are all essential for life

Heat, air, earth and water

[split mortar]

Yuh

[dusk laurel]

This means Brimmy and Cloud are like super old compared to the others

[split mortar]

Silva would be the youngest

[dusk laurel]

I headcanon Silva is like an annoying sister to the others, and that's why Anahita left after Silva was put in the Abyss a 2nd time

She did NOT want to experience that a again

[split mortar]

I was thinking that since the others cause silvas domain ti spread no matter what (i think?) they just view her as a unstoppable annoyance they can only leave if they come across her

But also, fucking true thats good

[dusk laurel]

Good idea too

Imagine Brimmy awakened because Silva's influence spread too much into Azafure

Especially since she was sealed again directly above the city

And well, since nature also includes life, she attacked anything that was alive during her rampage

And then mix in some calamitous bullshiterry (Calamitas being involved somehow)

[split mortar]

We ended up with supreme girlfail calamitas

[gray tulip]

i like that calamitas is a girlfailure

because like. yes she was groomed to be a machine for war from a very young age, she's not gonna be on the sigma grindset like yharim's propaganda said, she's going to be sad and alone and traumatized and scared of everything

[split mortar]

She is the only npc allowed to say one (1) fuck

[gray tulip]

is astrum deus a worm or a snake

[stark basalt]

Tape worm

[split mortar]

Worm boss

Alien and so unrelated to any species on the planet i think

[manic coral]

i am making permafrsot comment on your current amopunt of mana

[sudden ruin]

yay

more mage content

[manic coral]

20, over 20, at least 200, at least 300, at least 400, at least 650, and at least 800, and 1,170

1,170 is oddly specific becuase that's the cap

with all posisble buffs and gear and such

[sudden ruin]

how will permafrost react when mana gets butchered

[split mortar]

Doesnt terraria cap it to 400 or does cal remove the cap

[manic coral]

cla removes it

[split mortar]

Oh neat

[manic coral]

it was tested by angel

1,170 is the cap

and sicne you need Starbeam Rye to do it

i made him comment on that

[sudden ruin]

yay

[split mortar]

Damn, substance enhancing drugs

[manic coral]

when asking you about side efefcts of feeling 1,170 mana within you

and he asks about side efefcts to see if you're like, ok

What do you mean “Minor drunkenness at most”?... What do you mean you drank alcohol made from stardust to do this!? Good heavens, spit it out, if you still can!

[sudden ruin]

trust the method

[dusk laurel]

So real tbh

[manic coral]

like 800 impresses him and makes him minorly question if it's really nessesary

1,170 downright concerns him

[split mortar]

Permafrost looking in horror when the terrarian rocks up with more mana then scal (its only minor drunkness its fine)

[manic coral]

like even jsut

800

isn't soemthing even most mage players will reach

unless they really want that max mana

relaistically you stop at like 700-750

[sudden ruin]

i fw mana maxxing

[split mortar]

The true way you should be able to spam mana

Not mana pots

[sudden ruin]

kill mana pots

[manic coral]

which yeah in the 200-300 mana comment, he mentions that is the effective stopping point for most people devling into magic since past that it gets way harder to go further unless you're notably dedicated

which yeah

matches gameplay itself

[split mortar]

200 is what mana crystals grant

Could he mention aether crystal?

Since thats another odd mana thing

[manic coral]

maybe

[sudden ruin]

he should comment on or track cal mana upgrades maybe

[manic coral]

other shit im more cocnerned about writing right now

[split mortar]

Permafrost looking in horror after seeing the terrarian have more mana then the supreme brimstone witch thanks to pond water crystals and alchohol (its safe, trust me bro)

[manic coral]

i just more wanna have him be able to comment on like

if you have a notable amount of mana

"oh, hey, another mage"

[sudden ruin]

🙏

[manic coral]

sadly nothign simmilar i can easy do for other classes

[sudden ruin]

mage mains gotta stick out for one another

[manic coral]

like sure maybe if you're holding a certain type of weapon

but still

can be wonky

[split mortar]

Braelor commenting on the amount of gloves you have on

[dusk laurel]

[split mortar]

What

[split mortar]

Ofcourse when he is added

[gray tulip]

(shrek gif "like thats ever gonna happen")

[split mortar]

[gray tulip]

im confused and scared over that emoji

[split mortar]

[mighty zenith]

statis commenting on your unbroken gaze if you have a lot of max stealth/stealth regen

[dusk laurel]

Elaborate

[mighty zenith]

(since its gonna be focus instead of stealth)

[split mortar]

Elemental gauntlet
Fire gauntlet
Mechanical gauntlet
Power glove
Titan glove
Feral claws

[dusk laurel]

Okay

[mighty zenith]

glove stacking is dead

[split mortar]

????????

[split mortar]

So have braelor mention how impractical it is

[dusk laurel]

I was acknowledging your answer

[gritty kraken]

New dialogue if holding yharim crystal

[rotund shore]

You could have bandit comment on being a rogue
Wait nvm nobody gives a shit about them

[light linden]

I mean

[rotund shore]

Bandit is weird since unlike every other npc they aren’t one person, and work like vanilla NPCs

[light linden]

didn't y'all have some mechanic that gave you extra damage the more you used a class a long time ago?

or am I misremembering stuff I read on the fandom?

cause y'all could prolly use that data to decide it

[eager bluff]

class proficiency existed yeah but it was counting damage dealt and that isnt that great of a metric to base npc dialogue off

[dusk laurel]

I think she meant like other classes getting comments like what mage is getting from perma from other npcs

Like Statis can comment on your focus (what stealth is gonna become), Braelor saying something related to melee, and that's kinda it

[split mortar]

Yharim commenting on how many fucks ya killed

[dusk laurel]

Draedon doxxes how you've faired as a ranger

[split mortar]

Draedon snaps into a gamer rage if you do perfectly

[dusk laurel]

"It's over Terrarian! I have the superior Pulse Rifle model!"

[gray tulip]

i think the most common headcanon between terraria and calamity is that npcs aren't multiple people.

except the guides who acknowledge their predecessors

because otherwise you have to accept that the golfer and zoologist are part of an infinite family and every daughter got cursed by a magic fox

[pliant ruin]

yeah 😭

[real silo]

"Nice range amirite"

[cloud ibex]

i can imagine the witch doctor commenting on your minion slot count

[sinful adder]

It should require more than just mana stars, because it seems like a lot of players will raise their mana that way just because they can and it isn't too expensive

[light linden]

counterpoint: it'd be really funny to see his reaction if you're post-ml with 20 mana

also speaking of mana and stars

do y'all think the astral infection could happen if enough mana crystals are gathered in one place?

[sinful adder]

I imagine so

My understanding is that mana crystals are stars

[dusk laurel]

I don't think you interpreted that right, they were referring to how it should cost more than the maximum amount of mana stars for that specific dialogue, not the other ones tiered by how much mana you have

[dusk laurel]

Probably

[manic coral]

i mean most non-mages aren't gonna go out of their way to go past 200

[light linden]

summoners kinda do

oh also cei

[manic coral]

summoners are just mages with projectiles that last longer

[light linden]

bloodstones are old lore stuff right?

[manic coral]

what about bloodstones

t hat doesn't narrow it down

[manic coral]

like literally even in-lore this is basically what summoners are

[light linden]

how they're obtained and how they're gotten from defeating providence

[manic coral]

in that case yes

they are to be tied to Ravager

[light linden]

ok ty

[light linden]

makes sense

[sinful adder]

Which is why I recommend that you make the check be for having more than that amount

[light linden]

I've always thought in lore it was similar to how magic that controls the elements in handled in other games

[sinful adder]

Also I thought summoners were like mages but their projectiles are alive

[light linden]

where summoning magic is under one broad umbrella but it has a bunch of subtypes

[gray tulip]

do you think the brimstone elemental has any pity for the citizens of azafure or is it completely emotionless and exclusively "i must light the world on fire"

because if the latter, thats kinda some overlap with providence. maybe she's the one that woke the brimstone elemental up?

[dusk laurel]

iirc Brimmy is not sapient unlike Anahita and Silva, unless someone spouted wrong information to me

but then again when you die to Brimmy while using boss checklist, it mentions how she keeps her "somber vigil" over the crags

[gray tulip]

is boss checklist canon??

[dusk laurel]

yeah it's in the doc

the despawn messages

[gray tulip]

oh neat

for this fic im writing im gonna assume she's sapient enough to feel kinda bad about the azafurians

[dusk laurel]

The important ones seem to be Slime God, Brimmy and Yharon

Since they are the only ones listed

[manic coral]

there's checks for various amounts of mana

[sinful adder]

Oh

[manic coral]

20, under 200, at least 200, at least 300, at least 400, at least 650, and at least 800

and then one at 1,170 for shits and giggles

(maximum obtainable mana)

[sinful adder]

Are these listed anywhere?

[dusk laurel]

Cei are any of the elementals other than Silva sapient?

[sinful adder]

Outside of the game

[manic coral]

yes. in the doc i'm wiritng them in.

[sinful adder]

:(

I wanna see

[manic coral]

.

[light linden]

can there be one for over 1,170 that calls out people for using a mod that boosts mana?

[manic coral]

they're not in the game

as said

i'm writing them

[manic coral]

no

[light linden]

[sinful adder]

Ah

[leaden inlet]

[dusk laurel]

How calamitous

Whoops ping

[light linden]

anyways

[light linden]

cei was it you that made the goddess of fate thing?

[manic coral]

no

[light linden]

or was it someone else?

mb sorry

[dusk laurel]

reb

[light linden]

reb?

[dusk laurel]

Rebecca

[light linden]

oh rebecca

[light linden]

🐌

[dusk laurel]

I typed that first

Sadly can't prove it

[light linden]

I can though

[patent rover]

is yharim still associated with the jungle? I've noticed that since I've last played, it looks like yharon has been completely decoupled from the jungle

[indigo glade]

No.

[patent rover]

gotcha nice

[paper basin]

Are the bosses we fight in order weakest to strongest? Or do we fight bosses that are stronger than eachother but we simply fight earlier?

I know a lot of games aren’t always lore accurate with how the player can fight certain bosses just be used of gameplay reasons

[sick void]

i think its from weakest to strongest yes

[eager bluff]

generally yes

[light linden]

things do get a little muddy when some bosses are in the same tier though

e.g. scal and exo mechs

[eager bluff]

if there are multiple bosses at the same progression point (i.e. mechs) you can generally swap em around with little to no consequence

[sick void]

we start off fighting weaker enemies that are said to be more common in the lore and towards the end its said that because we've gotten so much stronger we're now on those bosses radars

like they wouldnt have even noticed us beforehand. and if we tried to fight them earlier they wouldve stomped us into the ground

[paper basin]

I’m assuming this excludes bosses like the primordial wyrm? I could be wrong but I’m assuming a giant fish isn’t stronger than like most of the bosses?

[eager bluff]

you see

[sick void]

primordial wyrm was blessed by two gods i think

[eager bluff]

jared is like

the second oldest thing in the game

[dusk laurel]

Just one

[eager bluff]

and also blessed by silva

[light linden]

eh

[paper basin]

His name is Jared?

[light linden]

the elementals might be older

[eager bluff]

community nickname

[paper basin]

Cool cool

[sick void]

ok yeah true

it doesnt know who xeroc is even though its supposed to guard the terminus

[paper basin]

I forget, did xeroc kill the dragon leader or just camp his corpse?

[sick void]

killed and absorbed its soul. first person to ever do it

or. actually its unclear if he killed zeratros or just waited until zeratros died of natural causes

either way he ate that guy.

[eager bluff]

we dont know the specifics of the whole shebang but we know that even if xeroc didnt kill him zeratros wasnt gonna last much longer

[paper basin]

It’s kinda funny he ate the soul and just dipped, does he even do anything after that?

[sick void]

also unclear but probably

we at least know he made a rock.

[eager bluff]

no

he took the rock from the aerie

[gritty kraken]

xeroc is on a mission to find noxus at the moment

[paper basin]

So is Xeroc most powerful, anything above him?

[sick void]

he didnt even make the rock. goddamn.

[eager bluff]

nothing above him that matters to the story

[sick void]

its a stone xeroc you didnt make it

[paper basin]

He stole a soul, then a rock, godly power really does make you humble

[pliant ruin]

he didnt steal the rock

its just a random ass rock

[paper basin]

Dude what the fuck does this guy do

[eager bluff]

we dont know

[pliant ruin]

smokes a fat blunt sometimes

[eager bluff]

we just know hes doing something

[gritty kraken]

protec terraria from big threat I sthink

[paper basin]

He became a god and did the same thing I did at like ten years old and started taking rocks home

[sick void]

god stuff i guess. yharim doesnt give a fuck about what the gods do and hes our main source of info rn

[eager bluff]

well no

yharim most certainly does give a fuck about what the gods do

he just cant figure out what xeroc is doing

[light linden]

he knows what he did

but can't track the giant lightbulb of a sigil ig

[eager bluff]

ok well

[sick void]

i say that bc he doesnt care about what the gods are up to or have been up to other than where they came from and how they generally treat mortals

[eager bluff]

lets assume xeroc is the size of a train

[pliant ruin]

i mean some gods treat mortals pretty damn well its more so just the former

[paper basin]

Yharim also quit doing shit, he just got depressed and just lounges around

[pliant ruin]

hes kinda trying to manipulate you

[eager bluff]

do you think someone can track a single train across the entire planet while for the most part staying on a single continent

[light linden]

one that glows?

prolly

[pliant ruin]

i dont think it glowing is gonna change much

its a train across a entire planet

[paper basin]

What’s going on in space, why is everyone so obsessed with this planet

[light linden]

the sun

[sick void]

fair. he talks ab how he hates people exerting force over others & enslavement but its only when it makes him look good

[pliant ruin]

not much goes on in space theres like
the sun
martians
thats about it

[eager bluff]

the astral

[pliant ruin]

deus i guess

yeah

[sick void]

moon lord at one point

[paper basin]

Did DOG ever eat any gods?

[sick void]

yeah

[eager bluff]

yes

[light linden]

the distortion portals

[pliant ruin]

he is in fact a devourer of fr- i mean gods

[eager bluff]

hes yharims go-to body dumping ground for gods

[pliant ruin]

and he also just like

kills them probably

[paper basin]

The upper power ranks of the calamity verse are all just in a giant jerk circle, they just keep doing each others favors and making eachother stronger

And they don’t even like eachother!

[sick void]

thats how the real world works too

[dusk laurel]

The elusive god of light

Literally an introvert

[pliant ruin]

xeroc is just kinda there

minding his own business

yharim is uh

depressed and doing his best gaslight gatekeep girlboss impression on the terrarian

yharon is this is my message bla bla bla master etc

noxus is ?????????????????????????

draedon is probably making a time machine or something i don'tk now

[paper basin]

Nobody does shit! Terrerian has to come around and literally kill fucking everybody to get attention from any one of these lazy ass strong people

[pliant ruin]

calamitas is kinda just chilling

[pliant ruin]

i mean

what do you expect them to do

go around killing everyone for no reason

i mean yeah yharim kinda did that

[paper basin]

I don’t except them to do anything, I just think it’s funny everybody is dicking around

[pliant ruin]

fair enough

[eager bluff]

yharim did that until basically everyone that liked him decided no actually you're an asshole and left

[light linden]

he's working on teleportation

[dusk laurel]

Draemechanics

[paper basin]

Draedon is so based I’ll be honest, he’s just this weirdo who made mechanical monstrosities that rival top tiers in the verse

[sick void]

it seems like the only thing actually trying to find the terrarian is providence and even then she sucks at it. you kill her entire guard before she even bothers showing up

[eager bluff]

well like

why would she preemptively kill you

[light linden]

she only starts looking for you after you kill her guard

[eager bluff]

she hunts you down because you just killed her polycule

[dusk laurel]

ians

[light linden]

and scal literally flies across the ocean to fight you

[paper basin]

Has a guard for fucking nobody, ain’t nobody is jumping providence

[sick void]

is scal on a different continent??

[dusk laurel]

Profaned healer is a girlfailure lesbian

[light linden]

yharim

he has tried

[dusk laurel]

^

[paper basin]

Oh well fair enough

[sick void]

ok I understand now

[paper basin]

Also I’d also be pissed if some random fuck came and killed my polycule

[split mortar]

What are we loring chat

[gritty kraken]

Lore

[paper basin]

What motivation do we even have to do all this? Power? Do we just want to be at the top?

[sick void]

I think that's up to the player

[paper basin]

True

[split mortar]

Terrarian is your oc image:

[gritty kraken]

The image

[dusk laurel]

💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥

[sick void]

But there's some things like sparing calamitas that give some hints to the player's character I think

[pliant ruin]

🧑‍🦱 🫵

[paper basin]

So real, i have 2-3 ocs I’ve either made in terreria or ported over from other games to terreria

[light linden]

[split mortar]

Lol

[dusk laurel]

👨

[split mortar]

[paper basin]

Is there any other bosses besides Calamitas that live after we fight them?

[dusk laurel]

Deus

[split mortar]

Deus

[sick void]

Does Anahita count?

[dusk laurel]

Sorta

[split mortar]

If yes then brimmy does aswell

[paper basin]

Why Deus?

[dusk laurel]

We free it

[paper basin]

Oh gotcha

[split mortar]

We uninfect the guy

[sick void]

Deus is said to not be fully dead when we kill it so it's probably reincarnating somewhere

[dusk laurel]

Nah

[split mortar]

Nah it just flees

[dusk laurel]

We free it from the infection

[sick void]

Oh shit it does?

[light linden]

deus, anahita, brimstone elemental, ceaseless void, and yharon

[split mortar]

We beat the dusease out of it

[paper basin]

Is crabulon one of a kind or species?

[light linden]

dusease

[split mortar]

Species

[dusk laurel]

One of a kind

[split mortar]

Hermititan

Just infected

[dusk laurel]

No

[light linden]

technically the exo mechs

[paper basin]

So one of a kind of a species

[dusk laurel]

Crabulon is like a super hyper shroomed Hermititan

Aka super crabyceps

[sick void]

Unclear? The crab is a species from the sunken sea but I think only one got taken over by the spores

[paper basin]

Why are the aquatic and desert scourges, scourges?

[dusk laurel]

Crabulon is a special indiviual among the Hermititans that ran from the incineration

[paper basin]

Why are they scorned?

[dusk laurel]

Type of animal

Sea serpent

[paper basin]

Oh

That makes sense

Sorry I have so many questions, just very interesting

[sick void]

Scorned because if a giant worm flipped my boat and stole all my krill I'd be mad

[split mortar]

Its fune

[dusk laurel]

There are 3 scourges

[light crag]

When do you think the game takes place year-wise?
(Draedon gives us dates over the Codebreaker, the latest being 1875, which is when he says he left Yharim's side.)

[dusk laurel]

Cool-ass acidic filter-feeder

sea serpent with sand armor in a desert

[sick void]

1887-1897 i think

[dusk laurel]

small pack hunter version in a deep sea

[paper basin]

What’s up dog and storm weaver

[sick void]

Creatures from the distortion. Not the same species of worm but similar

[light crag]

I think 1890 personally, I'd like to know what makes you say those dates?

[paper basin]

I feel like the abandoned buildings and recovery from destruction makes it like 1910

[split mortar]

Seperate species that yharim with his infinite wisdom and F in biology comes to the conclusion theyre the same species

[paper basin]

He’s too used to the fact that all dragons are one species, so must just be the same for worms

[sick void]

Draedon says the exo mechs are the culmination of ~660 years of constant progress and he woke up in 1227

[light crag]

Ah, so 1887 is the earliest it could be, correct

Actually, 1888, since he says over 660

[paper basin]

660 years just for me to tear them apart in a couple minutes

[light crag]

But that's just semantics lol

[sick void]

Semantics also say he could've meant a few months

[light crag]

Fair

But I personally think it's been at least 2 years since he made the Exo Mechs

[paper basin]

Is death explained at all or is it just a gameplay thing and its canonical that the terrerian just does this all in one go

[sick void]

Not explained

Probably not canon

[eager bluff]

you get to decide

[split mortar]

I mean, the time of dates he gives mean that isnt the case

He started them after guving yharim exo upgrades, and that was months ago iirc

[split mortar]

Terrarian does it in one go

Insert terrarian is up to you image

[sick void]

I'm planning a calamity dnd campaign and if my players die I'm letting them come back if they claw their way out of wherever dying would send them. Usually the underworld

[dusk laurel]

That's it

[light crag]

He never explains the relationship in time between giving Yharim the exo armor upgrades and making the Exo mechs, but I would have to assume it's not before lol
Probably during or soon afterward

[dusk laurel]

You are now evaporated firearm

[eager bluff]

well it isnt 660 years of working on specifically exos

[light crag]

Imagine if it was tho lol

[paper basin]

I yearn to be those party members

[split mortar]

Theres a chance that they would get sent to noxus

[sick void]

Yeah it's 660 years of inventing in general

[sick void]

If DoG eats them they're pretty much fucked. But if they get sucked in by the Ceaseless Void I'll let them find a way to planeshift out

[eager bluff]

if it was 660 years of working on the same project it would have been rebuilt from the ground up multiple times because of advancements in technology making certain hardware elements obsolete and experience in creating things rendering previous design choices irrelevant and likely detrimental

[paper basin]

That campaign would have to be like 1-20

[sick void]

Planning on going into epic levels honestly

[split mortar]

Ceaseless may be sucking in souls across an entire continent

The dungeon specifically fucks with souls and there gotta be a reason polter never escaped

But thats just speculation (except dungeon fucking with souls)

[light crag]

That is true

I was just thinking about how that would set the game in at least 2580 which is funny

[paper basin]

Maybe 1-20 for main line calamity bosses? Epic levels for super boss Addons like wrath of gods

[split mortar]

Calamity already has post game superbosses planned

Noxus and xeroc

[dusk laurel]

My headcanon is that the dragoncult pulled a CV on Polter

Put a bajillion seals on it

[eager bluff]

it also has a post game superboss implemented partially

[paper basin]

Planned being the keyword

[split mortar]

Jared

[light crag]

Btw, I don't understand Empress of Light's lore, is she a goddess, something created by the divine festering that created the infections (corruption, crimson, hallow) or a naturally born creature who just acts as an emissary for the deities?

[eager bluff]

its uncertain

[split mortar]

Last one i think

But her lore item is one of the very few things that will ever get re wrote iirc

[light crag]

Hm?

[sick void]

Empress of Light wields Primordial Light which is Xeroc's thing so probably the last one

[paper basin]

So Noxus is older than Xeroc?

[dusk laurel]

Yes

Noxus created CV

[sick void]

Distortion is older than Terraria yeah

[dusk laurel]

CV is miles older than Xeroc

[light linden]

it seems to have an interest in god essence

[light crag]

So fey like her are a natural species then, and she's probably just one of the bigger/stronger/older ones?

[light linden]

we don't know why

[split mortar]

Yes

[sick void]

Yeah there are fairies everywhere

No calamity explanation for them

[light linden]

could be for decor, could be absorbing it, could be because he hates the evil biomes and doesn't want more to appear

[light crag]

It's just that Pixies are obviously very different from what Empress is

[sick void]

They could be or they could just be too tiny and too bright to see

I think that's what's going on with Zelda fairies (which they're based on)

[light crag]

True, true

Another question, what do you think the deity who the Lihzahrds worshipped was?

[light linden]

kinda hard to know

[sick void]

Probably the god of the sun if there ever was one

[light linden]

because xeroc fits the bill

[light linden]

xeroc

[split mortar]

thats xeroc:/

[paper basin]

He would as the god of light

[sick void]

Really?

[split mortar]

God of sunlight

[light crag]

That's also Providence lol

[light linden]

but him abandoning an entire race seems out of character

[light linden]

no

[split mortar]

And the sun MAY be made of sunlight

[dusk laurel]

Providence is the goddess of ash

[split mortar]

No

[dusk laurel]

Not light

nor the sun

[light linden]

providence is something related to fire

[sick void]

Providence ate the Dragon of Fire yeah

[split mortar]

The sun theming is jusg a bit of old lore poking out

[light crag]

I thought it was Goddess of Fire yea

[split mortar]

She didnt perfect ascend

[paper basin]

What was providence before? Human?

[sick void]

Maybe

[light crag]

Is this a joke or real I can't tell lol

[dusk laurel]

It's real

[split mortar]

Not a joke???

[light crag]

WH-
Okay then cool

[sick void]

I think it's real. Silva and Xeroc both share their dragon's domains but other gods don't

[light linden]

basically

there's 2 types of ascensions

[split mortar]

Only silva and xeroc kept the same domain as their dragon

[light crag]

(Adding that to the lore compilation document...)

[split mortar]

And they are top 3 and top 1 iirc

[paper basin]

Is Silva the one whose vines are in the abyss?

[light linden]

imperfect which means your physical form gets changed and you don't have the same domain as the auric soul

[split mortar]

Yes

Elemental AND god

[light crag]

Not even Otinilou?

[dusk laurel]

Nope

[split mortar]

Otonilou ate the storm dragon and became electricity god

[dusk laurel]

Storms -> electricty

goddess

[split mortar]

🐌

[sick void]

Oh that's why she's got the gross burning rock thing going on with her

[light linden]

and perfect which means you get a massive power boost, your physical form doesn't change, and you have the same domain as the auric soul

[split mortar]

Slime god used to be a humanoid race

[paper basin]

Is calamitas like a cursed child?

[paper basin]

Does this mean Xeroc didn’t perfect ascend?

[light linden]

xeroc did

[dusk laurel]

He did