lore-discussion

[real silo]

Shit I only know placidusax

[spring helm]

Lmao

[sleek halo]

[real silo]

There's more form er though

[cloud ibex]

placidusax, fortisax, lanseax, senesax

[cosmic zenith]

Chrysophylax from Farmer Giles of Ham

[cloud ibex]

might've fucked up the spelling but those are the ones i could think of

[cosmic zenith]

Which is the one I was thinking of, along with Placidusax

[real silo]

why dragons so axy

Do they cut trees

[real silo]

Fortissax was the other one I knew but forgot about

[spring helm]

Dragon of lumberjacks

[sleek halo]

Placidusax is a funny man

[sturdy kindle]

Placidusax is honestly the best dragon

[real silo]

gonna call omni to lobby for fatalis

[manic coral]

false

bayle

[mighty zenith]

fatalax...

[sturdy kindle]

Yeah, he is indeed the best dragon but I mean't the dragons he listed before lol

[manic coral]

ok fair

[sturdy kindle]

Sennesax is the worst tho

[wheat walrus]

🤌 💥

Well I guess Placi does look like Cooler White Fatalis, but White Fatalis is the only Fatalis I kinda just dislike idk doesn't sit right with me

[real silo]

Didn't even need to ping

[wheat walrus]

Besides, while Fatalis is literally The Dragon™ there are many other cool dragons

[real silo]

The omni stands for omnipresent

[wheat walrus]

both

[real silo]

omnipresentcient

[dusk laurel]

Omnipotent

Like

Outerversal

[real silo]

sap

[dusk laurel]

Shur up

Atlatl

[stark basalt]

Here with another question. If it does not fit with Lore discussion and needs to be moved to somewhere else just point me in the direction of the channel.

But I know Goozma is fan content (I believe at least)
However what exactly is Goozma? Are they the slime god? Also whats up with the eye? I see similaritys to Xeroc and Noxus obviously but does that mean Goozma has ties to either? Do all gods have an "Eye of [Insert deity here]"

[real silo]

Eventually slime god and provi will get their own sigils

uh goozma is like an auric dragon (has an auric soul) except the body is a slime

Noxus' sigil is just something silly that the fandom folks made to contrast xeroc's sigil

[sleek halo]

I like the funny guy

curse you bayle

[split mortar]

Fucking
Lo
L
Lmao

[hoary berry]

[sleek halo]

Fucking
Laughing out
Loser
Laughing my ass off

[mighty zenith]

loser indeed

[dusk laurel]

Losing gun

Unlucky

[sleek halo]

Damn

[primal timber]

Good morning everyone! I'm interested in compiling a lore video around Calamity and was curious if everything canon is available in game or if there are outside sources to reference.

[scenic olive]

dragons

gods

souls

magic

[split mortar]

Almost everything is in game, all in game lore can be found in the lore document in the pins

[scenic olive]

4 words that i can use to describe calamity

oh

aliens

i forgot

[split mortar]

There are a few tid bits that aren’t ingame yet

-# also a bunch of old lore is still around, so for the time being lore doc is a more pure source then in game since outdated stuff is still ingame:(

[scenic olive]

does the distortion creatures classified as primordials or are they aliens

[split mortar]

The fucks a primordial

[scenic olive]

idk like a creature that predates all life, its been there since the start of time

[limpid saddle]

Well the Distortion is an impossible plane of fucked up folded space

[spring helm]

I’m thinking aliens would be the better descriptor

It’s hard to call them primordials when we don’t know how long they’ve been around

[limpid saddle]

So hypothetically it could've existed for only 32 years or so, or potentially older than all known forces of the universe

we shrimply dont know

[split mortar]

Its older then god era
Cv is older then god era

[dusk laurel]

ggg

You should join the cult

[primal timber]

Wonderful, thank you!

[sleek halo]

CV i think dates back to at minimum

golden age of dragons

[split mortar]

The spoiler document in #calamity-update-talk has some yet to be ingame bestiary entries btw

[primal timber]

As long as it's a first party source and not full of speculation I am happy to use it. I try not to get into theory when I do lore covers so i'm looking forward to looking it over.

[split mortar]

The bestiarys are spoiled from the lore devs so yeah it is directly from source

[primal timber]

Follow up question, aside from calamity itself, are any of the add on mods considered canon and to be treated as such? I know there are some considered "official" and not but I wasn't sure if that just qualified them as okayed by the devs.

[split mortar]

The only official addon is vanilla calamity music mod iirc

So no addon changes the lore

[primal timber]

Wonderful, thank you.

[hoary berry]

three separate xeroc-related things i could be adding to and i have ideas for none of them

[mild hatch]

I know it's a very silly question, but
What is the lore reasoning for NPCs only selling specific items on specific moon phases?

[pliant ruin]

video game

sell werewolf chew toy on full moon because werewolf full moon

funny

[split mortar]

Maybe its cause wherever theyre getting or making stuff they only get it around that time and in low supply

[split mortar]

Also this

[pliant ruin]

not everything has

a lore reason

you can make up ur own headcanons

thats fine

[split mortar]

^

what i said was basically just hearcanon

[scenic olive]

Me with 44k headcanons at the ready

[pliant ruin]

if i had tro guess

its just, a gimmick

to attract customers

atleast in most cases

like wow come buy this limited edition thing!

[split mortar]

Or laws in place being weird

[split mortar]

Most likely thing imo

[limpid saddle]

I was planning to if you elaborate a bit more on it

[split mortar]

Ah wait
Sscls?

[light linden]

join us

[split mortar]

Join us

[dusk laurel]

Cal lore server

[split mortar]

Secret>:(

[dusk laurel]

You're a secret

[limpid saddle]

oh that sounds cool

[split mortar]

-# Omni gave you a invite in dms i think

[gaunt sluice]

wait there's a cult

[split mortar]

Secret:3

[gaunt sluice]

rip

[gaunt sluice]

does this stand for 'super secret calamity lore server'

[split mortar]

Noh :3

[gaunt sluice]

i'll take that as a yes

[dusk laurel]

Nope

Try again

[gaunt sluice]

that's hard

[cloud ibex]

very

[wheat walrus]

thou seem qurious

[gaunt sluice]

for some reason I read that as queerish

I'm trying to think of hair sprays that start with L but I'm drawing a blank

[gaunt sluice]

but yes

[wheat walrus]

alr then

check pms

[dusk laurel]

pm

like

leik

Project Moon

[wheat walrus]

💥

[gaunt sluice]

mission accomplished

[dusk laurel]

[cosmic zenith]

That's awesome :D

You can let me know if you have any questions

[fast wadi]

oooh

havent seen a proper lore video yet

they probably do exist tho

[cosmic zenith]

There is information we shared outside the game, but we have the strict rule that nothing outside the game is canon so

You could consider some things canon because they're planned to be added, but for the purpose of a lore video, it's best to stick to the game

[fast wadi]

is the old ones army canon

[cosmic zenith]

No
Crossover and dedicated content isn't canon

[primal timber]

Thats the plan, find a market that isn't tapped and fill the niche 😅

[fast wadi]

Ah alright

[manic coral]

first off

good banner

second off

yeha basically what stip (vetrasyl) said

there are some kinda small things that have been said but nothing major

and those said smaller things are subject to change so

yeah best to stick to the game

[midnight fossil]

i just watched one by Teeduck and im still so confused

[manic coral]

about what

im curious

[midnight fossil]

calamity mod

[manic coral]

i meant confused about what exactly

[midnight fossil]

oooh

like

there is a dragon of death?

[primal timber]

Sounds good. 🫡 I appreciate the communication on the matter. I want to make sure it's as future proof as possible

[midnight fossil]

killed by the god of sacrifice and resurrected into the ravager?

[gaunt sluice]

that was one of the things I think mentioned in here at some point idk I wasn't there

[manic coral]

yeha no ti will be, ever since the writing team changed we basically agreed to no major rewrites

because old lore had. issues with that.

[cloud ibex]

yes

[dusk laurel]

Old lore kept changing

[mighty zenith]

(most of the lore being in discord messages)

[manic coral]

though also DO note that although nothing will change

plenty more WILL be added

a lot more has waited to be added becuase of Sunken Sea Overhaul taking a long time

like i right now am in the middle of massively expanding and overhauling dialogue for calamity town NPCs

[midnight fossil]

yeah and theres some thing about "the kingdom of ilmeris"

[manic coral]

yeah

where msot of what new the desert is and also the sunken sea

the city itself was basically entirely incinerated but

the sunken sea, its outskirts, still exist

[midnight fossil]

awesome

[manic coral]

like, straight up making dialogue trees and shit

[primal timber]

Super excited to see what you guys got cut off. I'll definitely be sure to mention that the story isn't finished and plans to have additions, leaves a good follow up for a down the road finale overview

[gaunt sluice]

is Cal going to acknowledge Perma's existence now

[manic coral]

yes

[midnight fossil]

i was just about to ask that

[manic coral]

her not doing that is a handover form old stuff

[gaunt sluice]

ah

[primal timber]

I've never noticed how many reactions I use in conversations until I join a server that doesn't allow them haha.

[manic coral]

and sitll hasn't been corrected because new npc stuff wasnt done for Bountiful Harvest

[mighty zenith]

she's like just straight up a bitch to him currently iirc

her dialogue is pretty bitchy in general

[manic coral]

last i checked there's jsut

minimal adknowedgment

our priority was removing anythign that straight up contradicted new canon

[mighty zenith]

she does acknowledge him a bit but yea its part of old lore since they barely knew each other then

[midnight fossil]

didnt permafrost work with draedon AND yharim and he just aint talking about it

[manic coral]

.

[dusk laurel]

[gaunt sluice]

yeah he did before

[manic coral]

bountiful harvest being the last major update

[gaunt sluice]

what the hell

[midnight fossil]

yeah they split up

[gaunt sluice]

did anyone else see that or did my computer just spaz out

[dusk laurel]

Calamity players will never beat the can't read allegations

[manic coral]

no jsut a bot's message getting autodeleted

[mighty zenith]

envoy of the devourer and its consequences on the calamity community

[midnight fossil]

yeah i have messageLogger that was a hacked account

[gaunt sluice]

alr

[cloud ibex]

see what

[dusk laurel]

I can't wait for people to come in here and complain why Signus has a new title

[primal timber]

Oh man, this curse shall follow me to any fandom I try to clear up lore for....

[dusk laurel]

Nah I wasn't referring to you

[split mortar]

I think the internet just needs prescription glasses

[mighty zenith]

"Wait Weaver isn't DoG's kid?"
"DoG didn't create Ceaseless?"
"Why is Signus not DoG's envoy?"

and many more

[rotund shore]

Every fandom has poor reading comprehension I feel

[primal timber]

I know, I used to make content for Project Moon games and that was basically a tagline for the fandom.

[dusk laurel]

"Why is Calamitas so depressed all of a sudden"

[mighty zenith]

||undertale pfp moment||

[dusk laurel]

Did you just say

[rotund shore]

True

[dusk laurel]

Project Moon

[mighty zenith]

[primal timber]

It's really only bad when they can't read and still act like know it alls lol

[mighty zenith]

here it comes

[midnight fossil]

honestly i hate the archmage now like he just doesnt wanna say anything

[split mortar]

Uh oh
Project moon mentioned

Run from the cheese

[dusk laurel]

.

The dialogue being rewritten in question

[split mortar]

Well
Uh

He getting an entire dialogue system in sso1

[primal timber]

Love the setting, can't stand the (majority) of the fanbase 😅

[split mortar]

And the other cal npcs

[midnight fossil]

i know!!!! thatll be great!!!!

[gaunt sluice]

yaey

[dusk laurel]

Fair

[gaunt sluice]

more depressed dialogue lines

[dusk laurel]

Zena my beloved

[mighty zenith]

what is this potato

[split mortar]

[primal timber]

[rotund shore]

Undertale fans are some of the best people at being confidently incorrect it’s so amusing

I think I do grasp UTs story and contents better then said people, atleast

[split mortar]

Dragon ball fans

[rotund shore]

I’ve played the game which is more then some

[midnight fossil]

they gaslighted everyone into thinking "sans has pink slippers" and now he officially does

[primal timber]

Yeah I aired my frustration with the PM fanbase then someone pointed out that's almost all fandoms and it softened the blow for me lol

[rotund shore]

Sans having pink slippers is still non canon due to merch not being canon but it has been acknowledged due to that

[split mortar]

The internet is just

Bad at reading

Look at twitter or anywhere

[midnight fossil]

oh yeah well if merch isnt canon why did toby remove the gaster tarot card from that one thing!!!!!

[split mortar]

Lots of anger and people not reading and making shit up

[primal timber]

My countries reading comprehension continues to dwindle....

[mighty zenith]

tbh thats a case of "its fanon but tbh its basically official by this point"

[rotund shore]

Gaster is funny since we don’t technically know mystery man is gaster

[mighty zenith]

but theres also the crowd of people who are dead set on the fact gaster has nothing to do with deltarune

[midnight fossil]

i thought you said "duel that" which is why i brought it up lmao i thought you wanted a rebuttall

[mighty zenith]

which

is just being ignorant as hell

[rotund shore]

It’s so funny

[gaunt sluice]

calamity lore became undertale lore

[dusk laurel]

Btw the Sunken Sea and Brimstone Crags Overhauls will add a lot of lore about Calamitas and her home city

[mighty zenith]

happens a lot here

content drought and all

[gaunt sluice]

Good point

[pastel gazelle]

Undertale is funny because it has various things to say about the idea of canonicity and plays with the line between player and character. I don't think it's a good point of comparison. It also has a much larger fanbase total.

[dusk laurel]

Scope creep and its consequences

[rotund shore]

Like when mystery guy took over tobys twitter, THATSBSO CLEARLY GASTER

[dusk laurel]

Why is this channel so active

Why are there like 7 people here now

[rotund shore]

Nobody else says “Very, very interesting” like that

[midnight fossil]

deltarune has knight
redacted character might be gaster
redacted character go in stable
deltarune is chess pieces
knight is horse chess piece
horse go in stable
gaster is knight
gg ez

[mighty zenith]

the song called "Another Him" literally referencing gaster's theme in both name and motif

like its so fucking obvious

[rotund shore]

Btw survey program (OG deltarune release) is version 0.666 because of course it is

[gray tulip]

I actually don't think Toby fox cares even a smidgen about gaster. He's just messing with us, I don't think it's gonna be important. I could be wrong but Toby is absolutely the type to do that

[rotund shore]

Why is gaster associated with 666, is he satan

[mighty zenith]

no hes not

Toby is the type to mess around but he's not scott cawthon

[rotund shore]

This

[mighty zenith]

he doesnt do red herrings that lead to a nothingburger

[dusk laurel]

Scott Cawthon and his effects on people

[sinful adder]

There's like a bajillion things hidden in the game files with obvious and direct connections to something called gaster.

[primal timber]

I think i'll wait to publish a compilation of lore until a major release so it's not immediately out of date lol (but that engagement potential... /s)

[rotund shore]

I’ve considered stirring the pot by asking y’all who you think the “What do you two think?” Line gaster has is referring to

But I feel like that’d be too much

[dusk laurel]

Purple guy = light orange guy

[dusk laurel]

SSO is coming up

[mighty zenith]

i dont care im starting anyway

personally its alphys and sans

though tbh it could very well be sans and papyrus, papy isnt dumb

[dusk laurel]

So if you want you could wait for a couple months

[sinful adder]

Those things hidden in the game files have all the same attributes as a mystery character that was on his Twitter once

[primal timber]

"Mods awake, change channel name" moment

[gray tulip]

Scott cawthon did that cause he was a bad writer. Toby is doing it because he's a great and hilarious writer. In my opinion. Again, we'll just have to see.

[sinful adder]

And also as the guy in the intro

[rotund shore]

I’ve had the crack pot theory that itll be revealed he said that to Kris and Susie but that’s mostly a shitpost

[midnight fossil]

gaster quit his job as the royal scientist due to underwhelming pay from King Asgore
although working for a government facility he died shortly after and his death was ruled as a suicide
Inflation is rising and gasters pay was not matching that and when attempting to leave his job after refusal of a raise. he was 86'd by the government
gaster reflects real life wage disaparity in government officials

[mighty zenith]

when has toby ever done something like that though

[sinful adder]

no way

[primal timber]

With my adhd and motivation issues it'll probably take me that long anyway lol

[rotund shore]

Sans and alphys is far more sensible in terms of UT characters

[dusk laurel]

[mighty zenith]

that would actually be kinda awesome hold on

[rotund shore]

We can infer that alot of entry 17 is talking about a dark fountain

“Darker, yet darker” “Photon readings negative”

[mighty zenith]

imagine if entry 17 is actually his pre-battle/cutscene dialogue

[dusk laurel]

Delt a rune

[split mortar]

And fountains cause darkness to spill

Seems like negative light to me

[rotund shore]

Is gaster like actually just hiding in that bunker in hometown

[split mortar]

We dunno afaik

[mighty zenith]

has to be right

[midnight fossil]

a gay dinosaur replaced gaster in the government job with a more public approach. the government focusing on inclusivity shunned a great scientist who just needed more money. It is shown alphys is a corporate shill as she cannot make good amalgamations. this is why king asgore reflects big corporations

[primal timber]

Aight lads/ladies/everything inbetween, i'm hitting the road. Was fun chatting here.

[mighty zenith]

the working theory is that its dess and gaster

[rotund shore]

Since you get the funny gaster noises if you speed up the sound in that room

[dusk laurel]

Bye bye

[mighty zenith]

cya

[midnight fossil]

who tf snores like that lmao gaster needs an inhaler

[rotund shore]

And also it’s weird spooky shit so it has to be gaster

[dusk laurel]

Cei

Deploy the gif

[split mortar]

Bye bye
Good luck with that vid

[split mortar]

???

[dusk laurel]

The royal scientist

[manic coral]

you know if i finish basic NPC dialogue i might try to convince other devs to let us release a patch for it. we could call it a pyapch

[mighty zenith]

wing g

[manic coral]

https://tenor.com/view/wing-gaster-chara-gif-460255226754081608

[mighty zenith]

YEAAA

[rotund shore]

Peak

[dusk laurel]

[split mortar]

YOU ARE A MOD WHY CANT YOU DO IT

Wait

Moldy

Nvm

[manic coral]

i was asked to do it first

[split mortar]

Fai

[mighty zenith]

its not as funny

[dusk laurel]

Based Cei

[manic coral]

"Pyaptch Patch" would go hard though

[rotund shore]

The notion of Chara being the person who made gaster “fall into his creation” is funny but why the FUCK would they do that

[midnight fossil]

witch doctor is a lihzahrd and i think lihzahrds have smth to do with ravager
d'you think we could get a smidgen of lore about that from the witch doctor 🙏🙏

[dusk laurel]

Old lore ahh

You will be broiled alhamdulillah

[split mortar]

Why do lihzahrds do stuff with ravager

[dusk laurel]

Old lore they created Ravager

[manic coral]

i eman ravager does have relevance to a jungle. just not THAT jungle.

[split mortar]

Oh

[split mortar]

A jungle???

[rotund shore]

If jungle is so good where’s jung2

[dusk laurel]

👁️

[mighty zenith]

audio jungle

[midnight fossil]

idk if they're related but they share a temple and cosigning a mortgage like that requires lots of thought beforehand. so they gotta be mutuals at MINIMUM

[dusk laurel]

Whar

[split mortar]

Ravager is going to be made post providence and not golem2 in the future

Maybe crags overhaul

[dusk laurel]

Did you know ravager is getting completely overhauled

Like most of ravager's content is getting changed

[midnight fossil]

yeah he wont be a golem ripoff with unoriginal music soon

[manic coral]

the one in Ibipaua

[dusk laurel]

Including any remaining links to the Jungle Temple

[dusk laurel]

[mighty zenith]

are you calling open frenzy unoriginal...

[split mortar]

The music staying afaik

[dusk laurel]

Wdym unoriginal music

[pastel gazelle]

it's sort of awkward talking about lore when the answer to everything is "that's going to be overhauled".

[mighty zenith]

you shall be brewed into a jug of stink potion

[midnight fossil]

OK BEFORE I GET SHOT

[manic coral]

i like how lore has advanced so much that i cna jsut say something like this

[midnight fossil]

so like

[mighty zenith]

its not even everything tho

[manic coral]

and it'll mean fucking nothing to anybody here

[mighty zenith]

like a small part of it

[split mortar]

Welcome to unfinished projects

[mighty zenith]

aka the stuff that doesnt make sense

[rotund shore]

It’s so funny yeah

[midnight fossil]

open frenzy just doesnt relate to the ravager

[mighty zenith]

how ??

[manic coral]

how

[dusk laurel]

elaborate

[split mortar]

?

[rotund shore]

Y’all have this lore and I don’t even know how to pronounce it

[split mortar]

I say it like law

[mighty zenith]

lorea'l

[dusk laurel]

lor

[split mortar]

Loreful said like lawful

[dusk laurel]

Like Lor Starcutter

[mighty zenith]

omg magalor

i knew it

[pastel gazelle]

I also just remember too much stuff that was overhauled. And also some of the stuff that doesn't make sense and is totally out of left field is, regrettably, vanilla content.

[dusk laurel]

Maga????!??!?!

In my Kirby game??

[mighty zenith]

sorry its midnight and im dying

[rotund shore]

BRB listening to open frenzy

[manic coral]

vanilla content is itegrated just fine overall imo

though maybe i'm biased

[dusk laurel]

You shall be spared

[midnight fossil]

i mean it has nothing to do with aztec stuff and flesh and cults

[split mortar]

Vanilla bestairy hasnt been rewrit

[pastel gazelle]

It's integrated well when it can be, but there's still all three invasions which are kind of out of nowhere.

[gray tulip]

A lot of names for songs feel like they could be swapped.
Why is "open frenzy" not for a sea related enemy? Feels strange.

[mighty zenith]

what???

[dusk laurel]

[mighty zenith]

how does open frenzy relate to the sea

[manic coral]

no but the ravager is essentially a rampaging corpse

[manic coral]

probably thinking of like

[mighty zenith]

cause it sounds like "open sea"?

[split mortar]

Its the song for a zombie god that goes on a frenzy and kills everything it can…

[manic coral]

a frenzy of sharks

[pastel gazelle]

I. guess it sounds kind of like a play on "open sea"?

[midnight fossil]

ok that feels like the song i can relate those together

[rotund shore]

wtf is that the actual name

[mighty zenith]

thats just kinda dumb lmao

[gray tulip]

Maybe I'm stupid but I hear frenzy I think "feeding frenzy" like sharks, and open sea. Maybe I'm stupid.

[manic coral]

yeah

[mighty zenith]

its an unintentional pun

[split mortar]

And you are ravagers prey essentially

[mighty zenith]

and even then its barely a pun

[manic coral]

also rmemeber these song names were made YEARS before the new writing team

[midnight fossil]

it should be called like quetzalsomething and there should be like creepy throatsinging in the back

[manic coral]

we did out best to make sure they all make sense

[mighty zenith]

yea its just
ravager is on a frenzy and is out in the open world

[dusk laurel]

But why

[manic coral]

in fact i'd argue some make more sense now

except one

[midnight fossil]

its an aztec? death cults reanimated leader

[manic coral]

the obvious one

[split mortar]

Murderswarm dragonfolly swarm when

[mighty zenith]

tbh the song barelt fits the boss fight considering how stationary ravager is

[rotund shore]

I forget is ravager still gonna be a surface boss in rework

[dusk laurel]

Not confirmed

[mighty zenith]

its just a fucking BRICK

[manic coral]

there was not death cultno

[midnight fossil]

oh

[manic coral]

i meant to make thjose two different messages

[dusk laurel]

Undergroud

[rotund shore]

Makes sense gotcha

[split mortar]

In a building close to crags iirc

[manic coral]

Ravager is the reanimated corpse of the god of sacrifices

[dusk laurel]

In a pre-gened arena

[gray tulip]

i was gonna bring up murderswarm but i also speed blitzed that fight so maybe dragonfolly does some swarm stuff in the 90% of the health bar that went down in the first few seconds

[manic coral]

the DRAGON he took the auric soul from was the Dragon of Death

[mighty zenith]

it summons its young to fight you

[midnight fossil]

yeah

[mighty zenith]

so it fits

[gray tulip]

that makes sense

[split mortar]

It spawns minibosses
Battle birth

[midnight fossil]

i swear ravager had something to do with a cult?

is it really just some guy?

[dusk laurel]

it has followers I think

[mighty zenith]

well the god had a religion

[dusk laurel]

But not a death cult

[manic coral]

now one you CAN critisize us for i supposed is Roar of the Jungle Dragon

but to be frank

[mighty zenith]

also servants of the scourge

[manic coral]

we saw no way to keep yharon realting to the jungle and still make sense

also ok that one too

[split mortar]

It is the god of sacrifices, yes people sacrificed their lives to bring it back but that was in absolute desperation

We dunno if they were suiciding in their gods bame before that

[mighty zenith]

its also way too iconic

[frigid sage]

Why did Yharon get unjungled?

[manic coral]

and to be fair

[midnight fossil]

sacrificing for a god idk man kinda death cultish

[dusk laurel]

SotS is too connected to DoG and plays into the thing of them being DoG's lackeys

[mighty zenith]

more people know the song than calamity itself

[manic coral]

if i could change names of stuff in cla already

[mighty zenith]

😭

[manic coral]

i'd change a multitude

[cloud ibex]

plot twist: Noxus was the "Scourge" all along, not DoG

[mighty zenith]

woag

but cv isnt a servant...

[cloud ibex]

shhhh

[rotund shore]

The lore item for ravager is funny to me since it’s fucking worthless

All the good lore for ravager is in the bestiary

[mighty zenith]

honestly neither is weaver

[manic coral]

this still wouldnt make sense

[mighty zenith]

and not even signus actually

[cloud ibex]

you're ruining my point

[split mortar]

In a world where that can literally make spells stronger, its not as illogical

[cloud ibex]

🤫

[mighty zenith]

screw ur point

im killing ur point with hammers

[dusk laurel]

Mod wars

[midnight fossil]

fair

[cloud ibex]

i'm putting aureus in the woodchipper

[manic coral]

the consequences of me not being sure what i was doing when i was like the only actual writer and starting the first big project i ever worked on

[rotund shore]

Lmao understandable

[mighty zenith]

he's not made of wood idiot

[frigid sage]

Fly of Beelzebub… Draedon is Beelzebub?!

[split mortar]

Metal chipper

[dusk laurel]

💥

[mighty zenith]

me when the fly is a bee...

[split mortar]

It flies
Its causes plagues

[dusk laurel]

Cei are there any plans for the RoK bosses to get new themes

[manic coral]

what bosses

[midnight fossil]

rune of kos bosses

[mighty zenith]

hire sidetracked 🙏

[manic coral]

oh

no

[split mortar]

Mark of providence guys

[dusk laurel]

Shut up

[midnight fossil]

i think thats what RoK means i just took a guess

[dusk laurel]

Not even renamed in public yet

[mighty zenith]

risk of krain

[split mortar]

Yes

[gray tulip]

cei i respect you so much as a writer not only because of your talent but also because you have the good will to just go "yeah... i fucked up gang" AND have a kind mod team backing you that will implement your un-fuck ups

[frigid sage]

SotS is actually Skibidis of the Sigma now

[dusk laurel]

I am killing you

[split mortar]

Die

Die

Die

Explode

[midnight fossil]

where did the name xenqiterthralyensyr come from (wrath of the gods)

[frigid sage]

💥

[split mortar]

Whayruat

[dusk laurel]

[manic coral]

yeah like i'll admit. i kinda fucked up a bit in places becuase i wasn't entirely sure what i was doing yet. if i could go back, there's stuff i'd certainly do better or change.

but, hey

[split mortar]

Whuh

[manic coral]

i'm learning

[cloud ibex]

a what

[dusk laurel]

And a couple lore items are getting edited

[rotund shore]

You mean Xeroc?

[dusk laurel]

So that fixes it

[manic coral]

good too learn before i start my own project too anyways so

[split mortar]

Wotg is not canon fyi

[mighty zenith]

stroke ?

[midnight fossil]

oh yeah ik

[split mortar]

Ah ok

[rotund shore]

Xeroc is a name he chose right

[split mortar]

-# weird amount of people think it is

[manic coral]

WotG is entirely its own thing made by totally different people yeah

[dusk laurel]

Also ND is not Xeroc

[split mortar]

Its a mix of zeratros and their name before ascending

[mighty zenith]

mura and his consequences...

[midnight fossil]

its the name of a painting of nameless deity and idk if it means anything or someone just smashed their keyboard for a cool painting name

[dusk laurel]

It's a reimagination of old lore Xeroc

[cloud ibex]

it is?

[dusk laurel]

Yeah

[manic coral]

yeah it's literally a DBZ style fusion name

[mighty zenith]

scott cawthon does that so idk probably

[rotund shore]

That’s silly

[midnight fossil]

why is RWQFSFASXC catching strays

[gray tulip]

the only criticisms i seriously have with calamity lore is the way progression just. struggles a bit to make sense.
But that's because terraria had a broken foundation in that sense

[dusk laurel]

How whimsical

[mighty zenith]

i know i just wanted to bring up shadow bonnie's name being a literal keyboard smash for no reason

[manic coral]

i wouldn't say BROKEN, jsut ahrd to work with

[mighty zenith]

and it NEVER CHANGED

[manic coral]

gotta get creative with it

[mighty zenith]

ITS JUST CANON

[gray tulip]

"kill this eye now kill this worm/brain now kill this bee now kill this wall now kill these giant robots ITS PLANT TIME!!!! WHO WANTS PLANT TIME!!!!!! aztec robot :3"

[dusk laurel]

:33

[split mortar]

Dont forget the nuked bee

[mighty zenith]

robot :3 indeed

[frigid sage]

Bumblebirb is stronger than the zombie of an eldritch deity

[manic coral]

i'd kill for cryogen to be after calclone for storytelling purposes

[dusk laurel]

No it's not

[midnight fossil]

its not a keyboard mash dude RWQFSFASXC implies he only smashed the left side of his keyboard

[rotund shore]

Ravager is post provi in power levels

[mighty zenith]

swap folly and deus i think

[rotund shore]

Just not implemented ingame yet

[split mortar]

Ravager will be made post providence

[frigid sage]

Moon Lord!

[mighty zenith]

ok but left-side-of-keyboard smash isnt as simple to say

[frigid sage]

I meant moon lord!

[manic coral]

this too yeah

[dusk laurel]

Not a deity

[split mortar]

Ah

[dusk laurel]

Why did you call it a deity

[rotund shore]

Eldritch? Maybe, deity? No

[midnight fossil]

yeah well neither is RWQFSFASXC

[frigid sage]

Eldritch horror*

[dusk laurel]

It's basically an animal afawk

[mighty zenith]

thats why i didnt say it

[dusk laurel]

Alien creature

Also hey Garbo

[midnight fossil]

yo imagine being a whole ass god and then you get scrapped and turned into a tiny cleaning device

[mighty zenith]

haii

[midnight fossil]

common Andromeda L

[dusk laurel]

Androombas

[manic coral]

i love referencing cut-content in sly ways in-universe

like

[gray tulip]

also i enjoy that calamity not double, not triple, but quadrupled down on the "sea animal that is also a gun" bit that terraria set up

[fiery meadow]

Goozma and Andromeda…
Lost but not forgotten…

[rotund shore]

Dumb question
I know obviously the enemies in the eclipse are non canon, but could the solar tablet item be a reasonably canon thing? Since I have some Headcanons and I wanna see how viable they’d be as anything meaningful

[manic coral]

historians and dragon freaks cnaonically arguing what to call Dragonfolly

[dusk laurel]

So real for that

[gray tulip]

thats just realistic

its like the joke about spinosaurus

[midnight fossil]

im not suggesting anything but in getfixedboi they should totally have Goozma's Razor and then its just a bunch of slimes mashed together

[manic coral]

or the biomes in the Ilmeran Sea that were incinerated being the ones that were cut from SSO

[dusk laurel]

Oh

[mighty zenith]

zoologist calling it a bumbling bird because she's just airheaded like that

[rotund shore]

Lmao rip them their ideas weren’t cool enough

[dusk laurel]

beloved Iban concepts

[midnight fossil]

ok so i was looking at the lore and i think im on to something

[dusk laurel]

What were the scrapped SS biomes called btw

[manic coral]

you'll see eventually

[dusk laurel]

I know one was the shores

Place DS was from

But that's probably not the full name

And then there's that cool SS art Iban posted

[midnight fossil]

who wins in a fight
zeratros
yharim
turkor the ungrateful
goozma

[split mortar]

Goozma

[dusk laurel]

Zeratros

Zeratros is slightly stronger than Yharim

And probably can attack from afar

[split mortar]

Goozma is a old lore character who out did old lore yharim and iirc old lore was wacky stronger

[dusk laurel]

Which Goozma is this

[midnight fossil]

yeah but turkor is ungrateful think about it

[dusk laurel]

Auric soul Goozma or creation god Goozma

[fiery meadow]

I’m still genuinely upset that the “Slime God flees to fight another day…” line was only meant to prelude Queen Slime, a boss fought immediately after the Wall of Flesh

I actually thought at the time that Slime God was going to come back later and it was supposed to foreshadow Goozma retuning 😭

[split mortar]

Turkor the ungrateful vs the lack of fucks i give

[dusk laurel]

Turkor the removed

[midnight fossil]

he almost ruined a national holiday dude its only fair

lepus wasnt much better

[mighty zenith]

ungrateful for the home i've given him and the money i spent to give him a good life

little shit

[midnight fossil]

yeah not even zeratros/goozma could do that

[manic coral]

this clearly means that new lore is worse written

because it has overall weaker characters

[mighty zenith]

exactly

[fiery meadow]

I’m grateful that Hunt is as awesome as it is and fills the role of a good Goozma revival, but man

[mighty zenith]

if your character cant destroy the universe then they're bad

[frigid sage]

What is new lore Goozma?

[mighty zenith]

it isnt

[cloud ibex]

_ _

[dusk laurel]

There is not

[mighty zenith]

👍

[fiery meadow]

Doesn’t exist

[split mortar]

No…

[midnight fossil]

so it all starts with when nothing cuz he will never return!!!!!!

[dusk laurel]

The "new" Goozma is the one in that addon

[split mortar]

Its not worse

[dusk laurel]

Which is not canon

[cloud ibex]

i do think goozma could in theory exists in new lore if SG ever decided to lock the fuck in

but that's not gonna happen so

[mighty zenith]

yes it is

[manic coral]

yeha no sorry it's worse

[split mortar]

Nuh uh

[mighty zenith]

you're telling me a guy called "DEVOURER OF GODS" can't destroy the universe??

smh

[fiery meadow]

Hunt of the Old God my beloved 🙏

[mighty zenith]

shit mod

[dusk laurel]

I'd love to see a what-if story where that happens

[manic coral]

yharim isn't shitdickballsversal 17D

[midnight fossil]

calamity needs a rematch fight and fucking RAVAGER does not fill that space well

[manic coral]

therfore it's bad

[dusk laurel]

All Cal devs are omniversal

[split mortar]

Wgat did old lore even scale to

[dusk laurel]

Since they can do whatever they want in the world

[cloud ibex]

[fiery meadow]

Yharim slams his ass down on a chair and everyone in the room dies

[mighty zenith]

i picked up a stick and called it "planet oblitherator" that means it can oblitherate planets

thats how it works right

[cloud ibex]

i call this rock the aureus annihilator

[manic coral]

dveourer of gods traveled a light year

[fiery meadow]

The Eater of Worlds EATS WORLDS

👀

[mighty zenith]

stick beats rock

[split mortar]

Ah so easily the fastest not instant moving got it

[cloud ibex]

disagree! you explode now

[dusk laurel]

Sticks are weak to fire

[mighty zenith]

[dusk laurel]

Rocks can create sparks

Shrimpe,

[midnight fossil]

eater of ass

[mighty zenith]

beat rock hard enough with stick until it breaks

(its a really big stick)

[dusk laurel]

What if it's a big rock

What are you gonna do about that

[mighty zenith]

bigger stick

[dusk laurel]

Sorry

[manic coral]

a cockroach can survive a nuclear explosion. a person is over 100 times stronger than a cockroach and cna easily kill it. therfore, human > nukes

[dusk laurel]

I ate all of the sticks

All gone

[mighty zenith]

creates stick

i shall gift this stick to whoever completes my challenge

[dusk laurel]

I will make you into an average-sized fish

[midnight fossil]

if a falling star theoretically hit devourer of gods 1420 times he would die

[mighty zenith]

noooglub glub glub

[frigid sage]

I shall name this piece of copper “Otherworldly Annihilator”

[midnight fossil]

you cannot die to falling stars even if you have no armor and no weapon

[dusk laurel]

What type

[midnight fossil]

base terraria player no items > devourer of gods on expert mode

[dusk laurel]

irl or Cal

[midnight fossil]

in cal

[mighty zenith]

irl stars dont fall usually

i think

[dusk laurel]

They do

Shooting stars

[midnight fossil]

1420000 health in calamity expert only means you need 1420 stars to kill the boss

[mighty zenith]

no thats me throwing rocks into space

[split mortar]

The default canon is expert revaengence

[dusk laurel]

You're in a basement

Not in space

Sill

[mighty zenith]

theres a window

[dusk laurel]

y

[dusk laurel]

I locked it

It says

"take a shower"

[mighty zenith]

i eated the lock

[dusk laurel]

I put a lock on your teeth

[mighty zenith]

how would i take a shower if u locked me in...

[dusk laurel]

Now you can't eat

[mighty zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/foiled-cat-funny-cat-meme-cute-gif-4770784610413068186

[gaunt sluice]

Infernum looks so cool though

[dusk laurel]

Me when addon

[split mortar]

Not official and also based on old lore iirc

But yeah it does

[dusk laurel]

That too

Speaking of infernum, I wish SCal and Exos got some bigger changes to their fights but it doesn't really matter and they're also not priority
Like the exo twins getting unlocked from the screen for most of their patterns, Thanatos having more attacks that aren't just lasers [smth like the mines in eternity thana that lucile made], Cal flamethrower, etc.

[mighty zenith]

im gonna now

goodbye lore

[dusk laurel]

Baii

Gabro

[gray tulip]

does the rune of kos mean anything or is it just a reference to bloodbornne kos (or some say kosm)

[dusk laurel]

It's just a reference, and it's getting changed eventually

Lemme find the message

41 - Renamed Rune of Kos to Mark of Providence. - Done ✅

[gray tulip]

oh nice ok

[limpid saddle]

I know Mark Of Providence makes more sense but the Rune Of Kos is a cool enough name to justify stealing

Or at least the 'Rune Of' part

[dusk laurel]

Rune of Yuri

Sorry

[pliant ruin]

Rune of what........

[dusk laurel]

RoY

Yuri

What would it even do?

[pliant ruin]

HOLY SHIT

RUNE OF YURI = ROY

THIS IS THE ULTIMATE CHEESE REFERENCE

[dusk laurel]

Yeah

[wheat walrus]

Reign of Yuri

[pliant ruin]

it'd just summon me

it's a double cheese reference

yuri + roy

[deft valve]

[sinful adder]

Could he maybe just be kind of a big fan of the jungle or something, like he used to hang out there a lot

[spare pier]

Yharon, The Really Fond of The Jungle Dragon

At the end of the day there's still the problem that

Another Jungle thing

[sinful adder]

Yharim likes bees, bees live in the jungle, Yharon is connected to yharim, so yharon is connected to the jungle

There

[light linden]

?

[fiery meadow]

Jungle is like
Ultra bloated to the point that Yharim's Jungle tyrant stuff was changed to just be a general tyrant without jungle ties

For reference, jungle has Queen Bee, Vernal Pass, Plantera, Braelor and Silva ties, Lihzahrds, Dragonfollies, and the Plague and it's associated content

There's a lot, even for vanilla Terraria 💀

[frigid sage]

Why does Yharim like bees?

[gritty kraken]

Honeys

[fiery meadow]

Honey is crystalized to make auric ore...

[frigid sage]

Is he still from the jungle in the new lore?

[fiery meadow]

No

[frigid sage]

Ok

[dusk laurel]

This probably #lore-discussion message

[light linden]

hmm

[dusk laurel]

It would be best that Yharon isn't connected to a jungle since Ravager already is apparently is what I think Reb was trying to say

[sinful adder]

Apparently connected to a different jungle on another continent

[dusk laurel]

Yeah

[manic coral]

.

the Truffle should hate the ocean

there is literally a mushroom-loving species in its waters

that you literally use the same truffles he's made out of to attract

[sinful adder]

Good point

I wonder why they like a specific kind of mushroom considering mushrooms don't really grow in oceans

At least not much

But also, duke fishrons only seem to interact with truffle worms, specifically, not just any glowing mushroom thing

[gaunt sluice]

onl;y the finest cuisine

[manic coral]

alright i wrote like 4 paragraphs of stuff today i thinkl thats fine

[sinful adder]

I wonder if the truffle man sees all the glowing mushrooms as his children, or if it's just specific ones, or otherwise what exactly he means by his quote about that

[trim edge]

what if you throw the truffle into the ocean to summon duke fishron

[real silo]

You will summon super fishron

[split mortar]

Old duke:

[void zealot]

Joe Biden lookin ass

[split mortar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/458439707865645056/653064708701683762/olddukemannn.gif

[dusk laurel]

Don't disrespect the old man

[void zealot]

“Old duke sounds”

[jaunty niche]

is the sea king a merman?

or I should ask this: is all the merman in calamity the same species?

[split mortar]

Amidias is a seahorse guy

-# idfk what mermen means

[jaunty niche]

but cnidrion is a seahorse, right?

[indigo glade]

Ilmerans are a sapient set of creatures who all lived in Ilmeris that evolved to have human qualities, and used to have several tribes. We can infer the tribes had different fish origins due to the designs of the Ilmerans we have, that being the God of Seas (resembling an Anglerfish), Otonilou, the Goddess of Electricity (resembling a Jellyfish), and Amidias (resembling a Seahorse).

[jaunty niche]

by "origins", you mean those people have fish ancestors?

okay all vertebrate have fish ancestors, but I mean closer ancestors

[indigo glade]

Yes.

None of it is ingame yet, but it was revealed to us that Ilmeran's origins are fish in nature, and not human.

(So fish getting human qualities, not humans getting fish qualities)

[mighty zenith]

basically mermaids but male

[split mortar]

Oh
Ok

[faint plank]

gaymaids

[mighty zenith]

potentially

[pliant ruin]

hiii

[pliant ruin]

was it revealed otonilou's species specifically is jellyfish turned humanoid

because i proposed a headcanon that otonilou's species is the one that's specifically the opposite because it has way too many direct human traits to be descended from a invertebrate let alone a jellyfish

and reb thought it was plausible iirc so

[dusk laurel]

Haii

[pliant ruin]

hihi

[dusk laurel]

I don't think we have any confirmation yet

Probably? But idk

[cosmic zenith]

I personally think Ilmerians are magical on some capacity and it's at the least exhaustive to approach it from a purely biological perspective

Do they have an evolutionary history? Yes, I think so
Is their existence entirely governed by real-life phylogenetic mechanics? Almost certainly no

There's also the fact that "Ilmerian" is a lot more of an ethnicity than it is a species

[pliant ruin]

honestly i think every illmeran species except for otonilou's could reasonably have evolved from fish, magic or not

atleast from what we've seen

[cosmic zenith]

Otonilou's species almost certainly isn't the only one to be that human

See Ilmerian OC Contest

[dusk laurel]

Aren't those scrapped

Or are they just gonna go unused

[cosmic zenith]

Unused

They don't contradict anything in the lore to my knowledge

[dusk laurel]

Does this also apply to the crags enemy contest, since some of those might not contradict the new lore

[cosmic zenith]

That, I don't know

[sleek halo]

i mean

amidias

is kinda proof

lmao

i find it interesting he can just..

breathe on land

no problem

[manic coral]

i do want to address that in a line or two

[gray tulip]

is there any theme at all to the dragon's domains?

because between the dragons and gods, we know:
1.Life
2.Death
3.Rebirth
Ok cool we have a theme here
4.Light
OK that fits well enough with the above 3
5. Fire
Different elements could also make sense so if we're counting the typical idea of the 4 classical elements + light and dark, AND we have the life death rebirth trinity, this all makes sense
6. ...slime...?

[cloud ibex]

nah there was no dragon of slime

SG's domain was derived from Gluttony

there was also a dragon of Gravity

[pliant ruin]

There's also frost

There is no specific theme other than just, things that are part of the world

[cloud ibex]

the closest to a "theme" there is is that dragon domains are less specific than godly domains

[gray tulip]

where did frost and gravity come from? not mentioned in game yet or did i miss smth?

[cloud ibex]

not mentioned in game yet

i think Frost is intended for a separate addon, not the base mod?

[pliant ruin]

nah

[dusk laurel]

Nah Frost is a base mod thing

[pliant ruin]

its gonna be in the base mod

MMD is addon

[dusk laurel]

The addon makes it a boss and god

[pliant ruin]

youre gonna be able to find its corpse

[cloud ibex]

right

[gray tulip]

thats really cool and will definitely add to the environmental storytelling

there is definitely a part of me that is deeply annoyed at there not being a theme for the dragons but i know that thats a part ill have to sacrifice to become a better writer. i just like sets so much. i like putting things in neat boxes

[split mortar]

The theming is things that are major to the world

The dragons got their auric souls from the fragments of the world soul, and thus things major to the world (death,life,sunlight,rebirth) and gods are the ones with less specified domains iirc

Also yeah correct with life, death and rebirth being themed, hell frim dev statements we know the first three dragons to get their auric souls

First was life
Second was death
Third was rebirth

So yeah its kinda based on living, dying then being reborn

[gray tulip]

now im gonna be churning my brain for what "important to the world" could mean as a criteria

[scenic olive]

Dragon of Barbecue Bacon CheeseBurger

[dusk laurel]

Peak honestly

[hearty oriole]

Hi, I'm back to the Calami-Family

[split mortar]

Hai

[wheat walrus]

calamily

[dusk laurel]

calamari

[split mortar]

Calamari like

Like

[manic coral]

clamity

[split mortar]

Calamari

[gray tulip]

hello people i've got a question

uelibloom:
What is it? Is it really just fossilized tree bark?
How is it so strong?
Why is it locked behind providence?

[split mortar]

Uelibloom is tied to silva and is old lore iirc, currently its the solidified god essence of providence

Its going to be replaced with profaned ore and gear to make this more obvious and have some change in functionality iirc
But we know what it is as i had said before which is its providences god essence

[gray tulip]

thank you

also, just read ceaseless void, its just like that?

[split mortar]

Yeah its just a portal

[gray tulip]

eldritch demon portal simply exists with the casual statement "oh yeah the devourer is a little piss baby compared to the guy standing behind him" and we're just meant to sit and wait around like thats not horrifying

[split mortar]

It attacks us cause self defence spells put on it by lunatic cultist

The fight being so strong because the portal has like post yharim or something levels of energy in it super charging the spells

[split mortar]

Oh yeah btw

The dungeon fucks with souls according to dev statements

So yeah, maybe theres a reason polter never left and i think ceaseless is why souls get attracted to the dungeon

-# the normal afterlife for people may actually just be being used as fuel for noxus or something

[gray tulip]

noxus?

[split mortar]

Post yharim pre xeroc super boss

The boss of dog and creator of ceaseless void

Capable of the most destruction out of any character but worse in 1v1 fights then xeroc iirc

Its likely whats getting the god essence dog eats

Which god essence being soul related…

Yeah i dont see it a far stretch to think noxus is messing with normal souls

[gray tulip]

ok so its going to be ten trillion years before this mod is complete

thats what im hearing

[split mortar]

Lol

[gaunt sluice]

Exactly

[gray tulip]

genuinely what's the estimation? i havent been around long enough to see the rate at which calamity updates.

[mighty zenith]

there isnt one

devs dont set deadlines (which is partially why sso is taking so long)

[gray tulip]

sso?

[split mortar]

well id say 7-8 for yharim ti be released

Thiugh idk maybe earlier, sso is rather large a update compared to the other planned ones

[mighty zenith]

sunken sea overhaul

[gray tulip]

i see

[mighty zenith]

next update

[split mortar]

Sunken sea overhaul

Lag…

[gray tulip]

im not expecting a deadline i was just thinking that The People probably have an idea. though... 7 to 8 years. damn. There are people entering college right now who will celebrate earning their PhD by beating yharim if that's accurate (and i have no reason to believe it is not)

(aside from the fact that i have no reason to believe it is other than trust in my fellow man)

[split mortar]

Ill say all the updates i know olanned off the top of my head

[mighty zenith]

i believe after the scope creep nightmare of SSO they'll tone it down for future updates so theyre more consistent

[split mortar]

Sunken sea overhaul part 1
Sunken sea overhaul part 2
Brimstone crags overhaul
Distortion update (entire subworld)
Yharim update

[frigid sage]

When was SSO announced?

[manic coral]

we'd better

[mighty zenith]

like the closest they have to a deadline is the "limit" of how long an update should take to produce

[manic coral]

like

i feel like i only have it in me to work on cal until like 2028 at most

[gray tulip]

entire subworld? they're adding a goddamn nether portal to terraria!?!

[split mortar]

Ceaseless is already in the game lol

Its already there

Lag…

[dusk laurel]

Explodes you with my mind

[split mortar]

You enter via ceaseless

[dusk laurel]

👍

[split mortar]

Violentillin

[gray tulip]

so i imagine distortion would have this "noxus" character that i've been told exists, where would Jimmy Bob Xeroc come in?

[frigid sage]

Post post post game

[split mortar]

We not sure
We just know xeroc and noxus will be post yharim and xeroc post noxus

[gaunt sluice]

Xeroc update in 2 decades

[gray tulip]

sidenote: imagine devourer of gods with a stereotypical 1920s goon voice (since he's noxus's goon)

[dusk laurel]

Ey

What's the plan boss

[gray tulip]

EY ITS NOT OVA YET
DID DAT 'URT?

[split mortar]

Lol

Considering the what if cei wrote

Yeah i think we correctly guessed xeroc protects the world from threats

[dusk laurel]

Me when no minor updates are mentioned

[split mortar]

Profaned biome i think is in crags

Perrenial idk, thought it would be oart of a big update

[dusk laurel]

profaned idk

perennial will be a minor update

according to the version numbers

[frigid sage]

What is Perennial update?

[dusk laurel]

perennial biome

[frigid sage]

Oh

[gray tulip]

im wondering how the tone will carry on past yharim. He's The Guy. He's Him. Everything you do and see and fight is because of him.

[frigid sage]

What’s in it?

[dusk laurel]

A biome

With plants

[frigid sage]

That’s all we know?

[dusk laurel]

Yes

[split mortar]

“Everything you do”

The terrarian being your own oc:

Insert terrarian image here

[dusk laurel]

Kills you

💥

[mighty zenith]

why is this white guy pointing and laughing at me

[split mortar]

The majority is cause of him but there are a few unrelated to yharim

Like moonlord

Or duke fishron

Or folly

[frigid sage]

Anahita and Levi as well right?

[dusk laurel]

me when providence was caused by yharim

[spring helm]

Cei is burning through her lifespan as we speak writing the lore

[split mortar]

They are out of the abyss cause yharim threw silva in there

It might arguably be cause yharim to an extent

[gray tulip]

once you beat yharim, you'd crown yourself Ruler. You've done it. The three routes of calamity that i've identified for you to make your story are:

1. Continuing Yharim's work
2. Avenging the gods
3. selfishly grasping for power
   I feel like only #3 really works post-yharim. but if yharim is meant to be "The End" and the other two are just optional super bosses i guess that could make sense

[dusk laurel]

Why

Why do you use so many empty spaces

[split mortar]

The silly gooberism

[gaunt sluice]

I mean you can do whatever the hell you want

[split mortar]

^

[dusk laurel]

[split mortar]

i know someone whose OC would just try to stop being a queen and just have a calm life

[frigid sage]

3^373628636483626473863

[split mortar]

[gaunt sluice]

Dats a big numbr

[cloud ibex]

my character's path is 4. Figure Out How The Hell You Get Off The Planet

[split mortar]

Hell
What i have if a terrarian would be in a much calmer life after the game

[split mortar]

Just ask draedon for help

[gaunt sluice]

Proceed to terraform the entire earth into a rocket ship and you'll be good

[split mortar]

-# im aware theyd rather die then that

[gray tulip]

You have inspired me to make an oc. PLAYTHROUGH NUMBAH THREE INCOMING

[dusk laurel]

I need to develop my oc

But I'm lazy

[gaunt sluice]

I need to figure out what the hell I want it to be

[split mortar]

Same
I dont have much beyond trauma and ship of theseus stuff

[split mortar]

Same

[spring helm]

i sentence you to 500 thousand years of cultivation

[dusk laurel]

_ _

[split mortar]

But they have 50 million power in rise of kingdoms!!

[dusk laurel]

Thanks for the making half of my screen yellow

[cloud ibex]

i do have an idea for an interlude chapter of sorts where they're drafting a multi-stage plan for how to leave, cal asks how long it'd take and they go "probably around 7 years if i'm lucky"

[split mortar]

No problem

[split mortar]

Oh and theyre a prick for quite a bit

[dusk laurel]

I'm terrible at writing, but all I really need are more details about them and their journey

[split mortar]

Bwaaa

-# didnt intend to yellow…

[dusk laurel]

Native of the sulph sea, hates fishrons, especially OD, has a mixed opinion of Draedong since he helped to pollute his home but also admires his technological achievements. That's about all I have right now

[split mortar]

🔥

Anyways its little past midnight

Bai

[dusk laurel]

Why did you light me on fire

[frigid sage]

Are you British?!

[dusk laurel]

Yes

He is

[frigid sage]

Oh

[sinful adder]

I think it has been around 5 years. It was definitely before the lore rewrite.

[cosmic zenith]

With that attitude, you are

You can definitely get pretty good with time and effort

[gray tulip]

i have created an OC idea

[cosmic zenith]

(I say that as someone who walked into the Cal writer team with zero prior experience except reading and schoolwork)

[gray tulip]

You are the luckiest mfer on planet earth omg

[cosmic zenith]

Why so?

[pastel gazelle]

getting to write lore.

[cosmic zenith]

For being invited as a tester, sure, but well I just had an interest in writing lore and pursued it

[pastel gazelle]

When I come up with a silly idea like "what if truffle worms were an Ilmeran delicacy which were intentionally cultivated, and then they escaped", I don't get to make it canon.

[gray tulip]

walking into the writing team of a project that would become massive with 0 prior experience is like the dream of every high school aspiring writer

[cosmic zenith]

True!

Though to be fair, I think the best part about being officially in the lore is how much structural support you get

And help from peers

Writing on my own would be quite challenging

[manic coral]

i mean technically i am

but like

only at the same amount everybody already burns through their lifespan

[cosmic zenith]

I will make your burn through your lifespan

[spring helm]

DON'T DIE ON ME CEI

[manic coral]

sure buddy

[cosmic zenith]

Like white phosphorus :)

(Chemistry threats my beloved)

[dusk laurel]

:gulpsplosion