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I meant to say hello to xbxbxb123
SAY IT
not u
owchie my finger is burnt
Not uu

The pusillanimous guy Melon Gun did not say it...
Homura pfpš„
real
Yāknow, Iāve been wondering, what even is aerialite? Just now started wondering this, the aerialite slimeās bestiary energy states āā¦trace amounts of draconic essence from the outpour of energy caused by the re-enchantment of Aerialite.ā
Is the re-enchantment caused from the energy released by the Hive Mind/Perforators considering theyāre the rotten remains of gods who consumed auric souls? Is it naturally draconic in some way? Is it like, auric tesla from Wish.com or something?
Gonna have to wait for the sky temple update
the reenchantment is caused by the deaths of hm/perfs iirc so as long as my memory isnt fucking me over yes it would be because of the energy released
Kinda obvious now that I just typed that out visually, lmao. Though with that in mind, pretty damn interesting that the corruption and crimsom, despite their nature, still seem to keep the auric energy from the gods intact, I always just thought it was just gone entirely or destroyed.
nah the crim/corro is mostly just the energy from the gods souls going wild with nothing to really keep it contained
Hm⦠well, attempting to fish out godly essence from the evil biomes is a new roleplay idea, lol.
well thats like trying to fish a specific strawberry out of a strawberry smoothie
sure you can get a bunch of parts of strawberries but chances are you arent getting that one specific strawberry
or even a whole strawberry
Maybe, but itās always fun to think about stuff like that.
its not impossible to get godly essence out of the evils (actually its pretty easy) but trying to get specific godly essence is very hard
So, I read the lore document, and in a lot of things draedon said (maybe not a lot but multiple to be sure), he talks about space travel. I'm thinking, with him wanting to leave the world, the astral blight feeling a little under represented as soon as godseeker mode, and I've heard there are plans for subworlds in the future, is space exploration ever going to be relevant to the game in the future? Or is the intention to keep it as is, interesting character lore.
Also, do the devs have an internal lore Canon they all use to be on the same page when making changes and additions, as in a more cohesive narrative framework than the lore presented in game? Or is a lot of it just winging it. If there is a separate dev lore we don't have access to, does it extend into purported future parts of the mod like xeroc? Or would he still be in the conceptually no one right answer stage for development?
I asked a few more questions than I intended to there
First question probably not, second maybe
Well, one potential affirmation is better than none so that's something to be excited about
Nope
Astral Blight and Godseeker mode are not a thing in basecal
No triple affirmative?
To the 2nd paragraph, yeah they work together
And a lot of the plot is not implemented yet
Whether its because it comes with new content or is just not written yet
Where are Braelor and Stasis even mentioned?
Statis' compatriot Braelor dueled me to a standstill. With our blades locked, the ronin lunged for the lethal blow.
Which entry?
Both are mentioned in Signus' lore item
Also Statis has 2 accessories named after him
True
Draedon also mentions Braelor
When?
Draetalk
Ah
Exo Mech entry
Ok
Talking about how he made Thanatos' armor
So they are minor characters
I forged its armor using a process inspired by how Silva created Braelor's axe: by using particle jets to slowly and carefully fuse many elements together into a nanocomposite, the invincible armor organically "grows" over Thanatos' structure like a chrysalis
Why didnāt Draedon just make Thanatos invincible? Is he stupid? /j
:glorpxd:
(I know why)
braelor aint a minor character what
the guy who got the closest to kill the yharim
thats a minor character

from his bf
Braelor isn't that important

much like the goddess that blessed him
poor boy got trapped in distortion someone help my guy
Hey, we're gonna get more Statis-Braelor roommates lore next update
So it isn't that bad
Itās really impressive braelor has managed to survive in the distortion tbh
Heās a like really strong dude tbh
he was blessed by silva
We don't really know exactly what that does
Although strength and durability is probably a part of it
I mean if silva blessed him he must be strong enough imo
I really wonder what renewable food and water there is in the distortion, unless his blessing removes basic human needs lmao
If he and Statis combined were 100%, he'd be 60% of that iirc
The ecosystem of the distortion is something Iād be very interested in learning of
I'd love to see what they do with the Distortion
maybe that Silva blessing makes it so he can grow his own food
I mean the distortion will be playable
Since we got some idea from a conversation in cst not too long ago
Or adapt the distortions flora to a more palettable form
Wonder if distortion will have trees you can shake for fucked up distortion fruit
Delicious
probably
I mean distortion mfs might also have the needing of food
or atleast signus
fym that shit dubious 
Iām a freak who likes the stuff calamity fishing adds so Iām also curious about distortion fish
Please game make distortion crates give cosmilite post dog which would benefit me and me alone
the question is
devourer of trout
does water exist?
Good question
That is a very good question
Water is a very basic requirement for life although distortion is so dissonant from standard life
or just fish in some fucked up and evil dark matter-like liquid
I mean... in terraria there are fish that exist in lava.
That could kind of rule actually
I mean
Liquid cosmilite is definitely a thing that could happen
Maybe it'll be like the distortion world from PokƩmon & gravity is just completely fucked & there are backwards waterfalls & shit
could be cool
The dubious grape juice
If the devs figure out the fuckery that is modded liquids code
god yeah liquids are probably hell to implement
Vanilla only has four of them for a reason I feel
honestly a weird liquid, or liquid that has antigravity, would be neat... but I totally respect if liquids are surprisingly bizarre or something.
For some reason whenever I imagine the distortion in my head I just think of it as unfathomably purple, just so terribly ourple
honestly same and I'm also not entirely sure why. Purple's just a very otherworldly color?
To be fair it's denizens are very purple
& evil
& purple is evil
DoG and Signus are very purple
Yeah the distortion creatures we know are very purole
Purple is such a like, unnatural color
blue grass & purple skies
Like the entire dimension being mostly purple would suck 
but like fucked up evil purple skies
and some random flower
I dont think eggplants are natural
A lot of media uses purple to represent a high position, since irl purple dye used to be very expensive so only kings or other rules had it
wolfsbane is also purple yes, & evil as shit (poison)
Although the exclusivity of purple could also just lead it to feeling foreign, unknown, strange
Whats loring currently
Especially since purple dye is infact a bitch to get in terraria
Idk Iām just rambling
actually like 5, & they are all really important to the Distortion hierarchy
so i feel like the generalisation is justified
I love the video visage set so I experience so much pain whenever I try to get it
Who are the other 2
Oh right
Storm weaver
Dog
Signus
???
???
Cv is a portal not a denizen
would braelor count as a distortion guy
Also we don't know what Noxus looks like yet
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Heās not from the distortion so no Iād say
brian family goy
Where is braelor from, anyways
Migration dont count
Terraria
michigan
shit
Ohh true
Storm Weaver afawk is getting redesigned
Anyway 4th is Cosmic Guardians
So it could very well use new colors
nooo
Y'know the tiny shitheads DoG spawns

Aw man
Liberal agenda, woke media
Actually nvm thatās fine theyāre lame

The woke liberals and their cosmic guardians
I cant believe calamity lore chat is gaslighting me
Ugh DoG would run for president wouldnāt he
They better be removed when DoG gets reworked
He wouldnāt do well but heād try
cosmic guardians are pidgeons
They literally have no purpose other than making basecal DoG annoying
No he'd run for god-king of everything
he would be a good ruler....||as a dictator||
Nobody would vote for him & so he'd eat half the population
DoG J. Trump
I mean DoG kinda is homophobic
idk man if i saw a kaiju serpent running for president i would probably vote for it
he wanted to kill gays
its either that or old fuckfaces
He and Signus did a combo attack and separated the only confirmed gay couple
Better then our current candidates amirite folks
Whereās my laugh track
so sad
I love bullying dog itās my favorite pastime
DoG is also an old fuckface
we dont know how old he is tbf
At least in his 50's
no he's a fucking giant serpent from another dimension
given crusades
how would you NOT vote him?
DoG would say hes older then planet earth but heās surely just yapping
DoG is clearly younger than Statis
he's great because he can be simultaneously cool and an absolute fraud
He's such a bastard
Like dog is a cocky asshole but he has the power to back it up which I hate
its like if a redditor had a tank
r/CalamityMod
Wild analogy but true
trUE
"A GOD DOES NOT FEAR DEATH
A GOD DOES NOT FEAR DEATH"
Feat
somebody needs to revive him & kill him again for these lines
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Why so insidious
Dog is the type of guy who is incorrect half the time but he speaks with such confidence that Iām sure some people would believe him
Hm, with that in mind maybe he would make a good president 
like latam presidents

He'd definetly be a cult leader at like the very bottom of the far-right schizoposting pipeline
Like everyone knows hes talking out of his ass & making up the most asinine bullshit but people keep falling for it anyway
Imagine if EoW gave itself that name
EoW is so forgettable for me
Like, it just said bs, and people just accept it
Inpart since I play crimson
I prefer corruption
Eater of Worlds probably could eat a world if you gave him like, a couple months & a tonne of laxatives
The only thing I like in the corruption is the rotten matter sprite
Plus it's probably a metaphor to how the corruption eats worlds
Terrarian: āHoly shit big worm thing!ā
Eow: āDude my names eater of worlds now Iām gonna like eat your world and kill youā
Terrarian: āOh okay I will kill you thenā
Theyāre speaking the language of gods
Probably closer to thousands to millions of years or more
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Cei should hire you
Hahahahah no
crazy underestimation
He's not THAT small
Define the world
Planets are fucking huge
Earth? This solar system? The entire universe? Whatās the limit
given we're on a contineant & even at it's largest it's not really that big i feel like he could pull it off
Again with a couple months, maybe years if we're tightening our expectations but still a literal tonne of laxatives
also not sure if eow would resist the center of earth
can confirm
I think you're forgetting what's below the surface
mmm
Garbo can you post a diagram of the earth's layers
yummy lava
Dont think we are on the entire continent
One minute i've been called to another lore chat keep proving me wrong
no sorry i eated it
no morr layers
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ur evil
no im hungry

It's for the best
but wilson said don't starve
But you're not gonna starve to death
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what if I dont eat
Then you both shall starve together
what are u gonna do?
You do starve
send me a deerclops?
delicious
Oh like fifty deerclopsās
I would eat them so I dont starve anymore
Ok back
Guys I think there's no men in this sky
how many deerclops do you think you guys could beat in a fight
the ingenious kiting strategy;
if we are not in thundra, 1
if we are in a thundra, -5
Like to be real Iām about as strong as letās say Wendy who is a character with less then average damage, and I donāt even have a dead sister to help me!
why didnāt yharim use recall potion when he get thrown in lava is he stupid
Maybe Iām underrating myself Wendy is like an 11 year old girl or smth
Anyways that isnāt very lore of me
She is a small child yes
STIPUDE
Small Victorian child vs deerclops
I could teach a small Victorian child to kite deerclops (lie)
Iāve never even beaten deerclops in dont starve
your pfp is also chara
do you just resonate with small traumatized children
Well the victorian child has a knife made out of darkness & a hyper violent ghost
LMAO š
Hey itās not like I choose which characters I like
Wait I do

i forgot how much i hated looking at that image
would chara count as traumatized
yes
Probably
the whole reason they went to the underground was cause their life on the surface sucked
unless thats fanon and im being silly again
i honestly cant remember
uuuh
TRUE
I think I remember an asriel dialogue like "they hated humanity" or something something
yea that
Undertale fans are famously people who havenāt played undertale, let alone read it

exactly
I always figured Chara disliked humanity AFTER they fell to the underground, seeing what humans did to all the monsters made them hate the human race
(tbf i started red and yellow yesterday and got stuck on the ruins switches 3 times in a row)
well it seems to be all of the fallen children having very sad lives, mt ebott being an infamous uh, suicide spot last i recall
hitboxes moment
I donāt know Iām no expert
I think when u go with him after defeating him
except they didnt die they just fell in big hole
Yeah if you go meet him at the very start of the game after beating pacifist route he lore-dumps on Chara
i think it works both ways tbh
Imagine trying to die and then you somehow live a very steep fall
I say as undertale is one of my biggest fixations and literally my pfp
mtt ebott is just "if you fall here it's gg", probably some of them went there out of pure curiosity
And then a furry slices you
actually wait
asriel says chara went to mt. ebott due to "not a very happy reason"
Yea
yeah
so yea i think something did happen to them up there
I mean iirc chara wanted asriel to wipe out the humans that attacked him
Thatās vague but the fact asriel doesnāt know seems to suggest Chara didnāt want to go into details, which is a bad sign
mhm
Yuh
smells like traumatized child to me
Well its not that they dont neccesarily know, its that they dont share it with Frisk
So to answer the question: yes, this kid is traumatized
I mean if you want to kill humans just because theyre humans thats not a very good sign
something something yharim
true they both wear striped shirts
is Frisk calamitas or the player
chara is just yharim as a child
Or is Asriel calamitas
** ** 
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wouldnt asriel be yharon
probably
yharim adopted by dragons
jaybe not
new lore reveal...
holy fuck gaster draedon
LMAO NOO
Hi I'm Gaster the royal scientis-
WING gaster
Why didnāt yharim download cheat sheet and insta kill xrox
But smashes fist into table who the fuck is sans undertale
show him some respect

Ares I dunno
King slime.
Skeletron Prime
true
If we go with the gaster is related to sans (usually saying gaster is his father) then ugh ares or skele prime works
It all makes sense now
I donāt even believe in this tbf
gaster is sans' and papyrus' father theory is dead af
Alot of it comes down to gasters kind of skeletal appearance but ehhh
i havent seen it outside of shitposts lately tbh
yeah yeah 'we dont even know if mystery man is gaster!' & so on
alphgs
alphgs
I always thought gasters design was like, probably supposed to be an homage to uboa from yume Nikki?
yea it was
Lorous
definetly
Oh is it confirmed
loreful
What the fuck is uboa supposed to be
Like, a head?
So is duke fishron undyne
i mean its basically the same character design
& is permafrost asgore
tbf this isnt "calamity-lore-discussion"
Sans -> snas -> s nas -> Skeletron nas - > Skeletron Neo
holy fuck
Yeah same weird eye crack and all
power of PRIME
Look at the channel description 
PAPYRUS IS THANATOS????
Yume Nikki is very much just a cryptic game and uboa is a big part of that
Anyways lord
Lore
also TIL gaster has his own wikipedia page
Yeah I find it kind of wild but it makes sense
thats just funny tbh
If Skeletron Prime is sans then Papyrus is The Destroyer
But sans was skeletron neo
most players wont even encounter him or learn about him once š
I think Temmie is Noxus
destroyer neo
Just a hunch
Uhhh random topic go
Whatās your favorite fact about the corruption or crimson lore wise
not if they see atleast 1 deltarune theory

lobotomized gods
Eater of neo worlds
slimer
Uhhhhhhh
Yeah mf is a 1/1000 chance (plus the faster followers but shhh)
faster?
faster
one is ourple
faster
Lmao
I like clrruption music
speedrunner gaster
Wing ding faster
So funny given the fact that the gaster hallway loses time in speedruns
thats still the funniest shit
gaster room is like, 2 rooms before punch card room

Undertale spinoff but it's just Gaster going to the store, buying food, and going home to make it
I love 1/100 chance for UT speedruns to just like lose two seconds
rarest easter egg in the game
slows down speedruns
shayy with double gaster in a speedrun
Wat

Itās actually faster to leave the room from where you came since you can only go in faster hallway once per save
i say rarest because if you get the door you are contractually obligated to open it
Oh my god autocorrect please stop saying faster
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its actually gaster
Autocorrect is a like a disease here
You had it for months
yea you dont use it and are incomprehensible
I think theres different downsides
autocorrect is cringe
Melon gun will never win
Hehehudbehdheheheheh
spelling mistakes are funny
Fuck you
Spell your words wrong intentionally in baffling ways
With autocorrect? Spelling mistakes
Faster, the royal speedrunner
Freu
fgyck yotu
Without autocorrect? Spelling mistakes
With autocorrect? New words
these guys above me get it
foeik yoey
embed fail
Fuck you
point and laugh
ruck ouy
haha
:pointlaugh:
FUCK
š«µ

Im warned
Yall think i dont remember the embeds will fail?

yes
Then yoh are a fouil
Eat the lore
Soorgy
Ate it
stop eating lorge
Like a birde

do not eat lorde
Can you all distort rq
Nou
distort...

Like gaster

Ligmus???
Limbus
Holy shit
ligmus company
signus company
2nd project moon mention in less than a minute
Oh I thought it was a corruption of signus and it blindsided me
You will distort
sigmus company
Sigbotomy Corporation
I can type
Library of Sigmina
Lore!!!
no you cant
Yea incan
eats your keyboard
incan
What do you do in a can smh
eats your cellphone
what is the lore significance of
eat
Caused world war 8
dam
Oh thatās an actual calamity thing I just thought osaka was croppedbweirdly
Can pbg pb themself

Huh
Plaguebring themself?

Peanut butter themself?
No no she canāt
Sadge
Well maybe she can cei please confirm /s
Okay but absorbing an auric soul doesn't make you a bad person
It's your intentions
And there is 0 proof Silva is malevolent right now
best example: the whole hallow
@untold oracle HAPPBY BIHTRDQY DLEARW
you know since theyre plagued by nanites
and theyre bees
what if instead of producing honeys
they produce peanut butter

i mean, i was asking if she is a god or no
Yah
okie
so the silva remains are like the corruption but with silva?
i mean, not like the corruption but it can create a biome
Her corpse is its own thing
I mean the corruption are the rests of the essence of the bads gods, so if Silva is "good"?
Yep, so Silva could make a good biome
the supposed 'good' ones turn into hallow
and good gods turn into hallow biome
Uh


get snailed


War Thunder?
who is war and why is he thunder
ā¦
so true
ares and who
zdeus
Exploding you
Explodes you again
venom
You will all be broiled
holy shit
numba twooo probably better than the laaaast
**
It is hypocrisy that drives the world, after all.
I aided both figures in their hunt for power. Whether it was reign over domains too large to fathom or a supposed freedom to one's own people, everyone had motives. Hypocrisy showed when you would least expect, seeing as the Tyrant coldly discarded me as his weaponsmith after I merely followed directives in my own fashion. I do not blame him, however, relentless fire over land not ours is all but considering any degree of morale. It his perhaps his greatest flaw.
Whom I give no credit is the Devourer. His tireless chase and hunger for power showed even at the occurrence of the slightest spark. It was never the reign or the status that was on his mind, rather the process of claim and destruction over other's domains. His ego is far past his size, ultimately leading to his inevitable downfall.
It still intrigues me, how reckless he was in pursuit of that mortal. They are, by definition, no god or deity of my knowing. Perhaps it was that ultimate persistence he sought in them. The undying will to change and shape to one's own desire without consequence. Something he knew all too well.
I shall not attribute his demise to his ego alone. It was merely one of many factors playing a role in this turn of events, had he not taken the size of his prey into consideration. I often times wonder what came of my studies in cooperation with the serpent. Rest assured, skimming his otherworldly anatomy and using it to fuel creations of my own has been nothing but a benefactor within the ramifications of my new creation.
*Eyes all over, mortal. You are being closely observed. Fall the dragon and initiate the last phase of testing.
It is that which you are after, no?***
my tv turned off the moment i finished editing that
**
The last of its kind finally falling to it's knees, at the hands of a perpetrator so perplexing and yet so stubborn.
Extraction of auric energy is no simple process, something I have witness firsthand. Draconian souls and their composition are wild, fierce, not meant for beings like us to tame. Yet, we adapt. The birth of gods which can only be described as a chain reaction so violent it tore the fabric of universes plenty broke down its stability. I theorize souls of aurum had a degree of control over their surroundings far stronger than simply being able to reshape space as is. And the displacement of this power is something this world need not.
Isolation of the fire-born ore was a rather rudimentary process, seeing as my equipment at the time was more than fit for the job. Utilizing it would prove to be my most difficult task yet.
After managing to harness its power at an atomic scale, I turned to weaponization. It came to me as a surprise that silica constructs and auric metals cooperated quite according to plan after some of my first practical experiments involving the two, letting me synthesize machinery capable of energy absorption never before seen. It is as if all the pieces of this never ending puzzle had finally fallen into place, leaving nothing behind but a void to fill with my own ingenuity. And so it began.
As a primary source of energy and it being the main structural network keeping my machinations together, Exodi--a.-,.,.,-.-.-,,
[A signal intercepting the codebreaker caused it to malfunction.]
*Patience.
Pass my trial and it is yours. Until then, bask in the shadow of unknowing. Your sun is soon to rise.***
I don't think this is bad by itself, but Draedon ain't this guy
granted, this last one does feel closer than the original one and the one right before this one, even if idk still
draedon doesn't care that much about any of the characters he talks about, he could prolly see even through yharim being a hypocrite regarding his thing against gods but morality and emotion are not draedon's thing, it's not a concern so yea
his main thing is discovery and creation, progression basically
to simplify it, he's like those people in games like dark souls who focus a lot on making builds of all kinds, he's the one finding the meta first rather than chasing it and most relevant to this, he's not one to care about the lore of the bosses
got jumped by draelore
yharim, dog, yharon, everyone else could be the worst lifeforms to ever exist but if they benefit draedon's goal of discovery and creation of all kinds of things in any way, without being a net negative for draedon himself obviously, then he doesn't care; and he wouldn't care about their morals even if they didn't benefit to him, or even straight up opposed him; he would care about being opposed rather than by who he's being opposed
I guess he's kinda like me when arguing abt powerscaling most of the time, focus on the arguments rather than the person making them

I do tend to reach a point where I focus on the person making them if they end up being as bad as outerversal slime god
It was meant to be more commentary on observations than anything. I dont view him as someone who has only one set goal, rather trying out the universe for what it is. But im a firm believer of it including him analyzing and observing the behavior of others, not just out of curiosity, but to develop a sense for manipulative tactics for future interactions (tldr for his own benefit)
He is cold and calculating but i dont think that would be something that only extends to experiments on monsters and materials
I guess that's fair, but I genuinely don't think Draedon would need, or even think about the idea of manipulating people
guy is
very
robot-like
Sure thing, but think about this; when you've reached the ultimatum, made machines able of ripping gods to shreds, whats left? He wouldn't cease his line of research after reaching said ultimatum, hed simply branch out into another study
Hes already proven himself to be observant, both regarding his own experiments and around others (especially the player). I severely doubt he would hesitate to work on his ability to integrate himself into social situations in order to manipulate and gain something out of it
I did describe him as being the one finding the meta, not chasing it nor caring about the bosses he's fighting, and that he's an argument first, argument person later person; but this is another point brought up and I think that Draedon still wouldn't care about the social life much
even he said there's a lot he has to research, stuff that is even mentioned
like actually going to the moon since there's no scary moonlord now
figuring out a way of cosmic travel too
be it through breaking the speed of light completely, or through a much more effective and long-ranged way of teleportation than what we see
If he can make the exo mechs but not a vessel that can go to the moon whats the point ššš
the exos weren't made when moonlord was in the moon, they were made as draedon saw us
moonlord's power wasn't known, no one knew how badly it was weakened and it could've still been at the same power it was to destroy the dragons
I think he has all the time and resources he would need to note down the behavior of individuals hes come across. It may not be relevant to anyone but him, but the idea of him keeping notes about such things is something i find really cool
mayhaps
but I struggle very hard to get that impression just looking at what he has to say all over draetalk especially
And well
If fovos did have that powerā¦
The world may have ended if xeroc didnt intervene
guy cares more about how you call his mechs than anything any of the big characters ever did
Ouhhhh i need to go over all those lines still....
I gotta kill master death dog first 
draetalk is a lot of draedon talking :p
Good luck
Yea i did see it when it came out but i couldn't be bothered to actually read into everything
Since it was so much
it's in the pinned doc here, but if you wanna go through progression like it's meant to be then that's recommended
By the looks of it i dont think luck is gonna help me in any way in this fight
Dog is BRUTAL
Ye that's what im aiming for
iirc the laser grid is bugged and not exactly where the lasers go 
as I mentioned speed of light I did think of something
the greatest domain both dragon and god had and have
is primordial light, the light coming from the sun
now, I know devs said that Xeroc wouldn't naturally just go lightspeed like that, but it's funny to point out that
Yharim mentions that even Draedon and all his inventions are much lesser to Xeroc, Draedon is not even aware of Xeroc's existence
and Zeratros supposedly as of devs, should be relative to Yharim (who should be slightly greater than the Exo-Mechs, as they were based on Yharim's power at an earlier point in time, and Yharim as we will fight him is meant to be at his absolute prime; also gameplay progression :p)
Zeratros being relative to Yharim I think is consistent due to how Yharon's bestiary mentions that even Yharon is second to Zeratros
wdym
i didnt notice any bugs
this is probably gonna piss you off but i know 0 calamity lore outside of the in game bosses
like
if you asked me who zeratros was id just go blank
and while after Yharon, there's SCal and the Exos, Yharim is right after those so yk
eeeh
it's fine
but I will say
if you're at the point of fighting DoG
then the lore items dropped by Lunatic Cultist and Moonlord (pretty sure) give context as to who Zeratros is
and are also incredibly important
is there a chronological order for the lore items i could read
they explain how gods became, how dragons ended, xeroc, and are an extremely important part of why yharim crusaded
despite being 2 lore items
gameplay progression
they don't have a chronology really, granted reading some lore item like dog's after wof's would be odd
it's yharim talking about what the lore item is titled after
usually a boss
granted the LC and ML lore items aren't titled after them
they are
Prelude, for LC, Requiem, for ML
honestly ngl shit aside the memes and the occasional "wordyness bad" stuff Calamity lore looking back has some hard as fuck lines dawg
you're welcome
zanks
Yeah it's pretty easy to tell what happens when, since Yharim tells you when what he is describing happened, but I don't think anyones built a comprehensive 'everything in this order' list
powercale
Cei coming in to snatch the praise like a vulture 
I was thinking, even just how Yharim as he is written makes Calamitas' power sound is the typa stuff you actually feel
100 duke fishrons vs metal sonic
and I think it highlights how Yharim literally just talks about her being horribly traumatized by all of it as if it was an oopsie right after that, which I think works for Yharim
Yharim hypes her power up with some of the best written glaze I've ever seen
but then kinda just goes oopsie daisy about her leaving
I want to say Metal Sonic wins in my heart but my mind tells me the stupid teleporting fish wins
You referring to her lore item i suppose
"I could not grasp the unfathomable, raw power of the fell magics that coursed through her.
She could scant control it herself. Permafrost recognized this immediately. With a pained face, he counseled me to look after her.
The Witch entered his tutelage, and soon after, my service. She was ablaze with desire to douse the Gods in her wicked wrath.
Indeed, the faithful already quaked in her presence. Her name was a moniker of theirs, one uttered quietly in fear.
In my campaigns, I counted on her sheer capacity for annihilation as my ace in the hole.
No man: army, city or God could stand against her unbridled fury."
compared to
"Eventually, the girl's horrific sin was too much for her to bear. She left my side along with her mentor."
"The weight of her deeds haunts her to this day. She despises me, and I cannot blame her."
"Please, if you would⦠show her respect where I did not."
now this isn't bad in of itself, it sounds reasonable
but guy Yharim sounds like he's getting hyped up just by thinking about how much Calamitas helped his impossible task of killing all gods
a bit like a very hardcore fan of a sports player, maybe, but the context here is much worse than a sports player
Do you think Calamitas knows Yharim has basically been whispering in the ear of the Terrarian after everything important they do or is it suspiciously like hallucinating
ouhhh 20% death
master death is so harddddd
i feel like the reworked dog is gonna be a lot harder but a lot more fun AND fair at the same time
master death is a mystery
this is just text, but I can imagine Yharim's voice when talking about how no one could stand against her sounding very hyped up, and then just toning down with the last few lines about how she could not bear it anymore
basically
the sugarcoating
tbh if we're talking about cal lore dukium fish yeah metal sonic clears easily
yeah but it's 100 of them
im starting to think that being around the lorebearers of monster hunter who manage to extract an entire world out of how some words tend to be used changed me here
Why havent draedon built a fish mech
jaybe, jaybe you're right
He's worried about Mutant coming to sue him for infringement
actually cal duke iirc is like small town level so yeah
on one hand the tiering around that point is multi-city block+, but also it's deep enough into that section that being small town level is reasonable so
old duke though, that goes from small town with duke fishron to like, small city/baseline city level due to upscaling from storm weaver storm stuff and also the astrum deus astral meteor earthquake
Omni as the resident powerscaler do you think Metal Sonic could beat 100 Duke Fishron(s)
depends on the iteration ig?
I do know that at least regular sonic has some horrific scaling on some iterations
If its game metal sonic yeah
no way
a pwoer scaler actually considering this
Pwoer
thats my main problem with stuff like "who wins superman or goku" there are like 4 iterations of goku and a bajillion iterations of superman, asking that question without specifying means basically nothing
Basicslly just starting neadless fighting
like. for Goku. Z? Zuper? GT? Heros too I guess but it doesn't exist spritually
and then for Superman. which super man we talking? the golden age comics? the silver age comics? which continuities? under which wrtier? are we talking one of the movies Man of Steel or one of the shows like My Adventures With Superman?
the reason there's so much argument over it imo is that it's such a god damn vague question
like
Such a vague question that is basically never going ti get answered
i mean as said it depend son both like
yeah
anywyas i need to go out for a lil was jsut on my mind already
cei derailing lore chat hours
Lore chat is barely ever on track
but tbh who cares no new lore drops in like a year due to SSO being in fuckin
dev hell

I am honestly more excited for the lore reveals then anything else
Especially moonlords
-# no bias at all
it HAS to be considered, especially with these kinds of characters
and honestly I do know that they are often considered
first example that comes to mind is Godzilla
guy has a quintillion iterations and they all do different kinds of stuff in different ways
you have Godzilla from Minus One, based movie, guy is known for being at most, city level with its atomic heat-ray which explodes like a nuke, otherwise being notably below that due to how it doesn't resist the damage of the ray and has to regenerate itself after that, while physically speaking not showing anything as impressive as a nuclear explosion that, as of the novelization, somehow vaporized a 6km radius area
then you have the crazier shit like Godzilla Earth whose atomic breath destroys black holes made by a super-dimensional eldritch spaghetti ghidorah
those 2 are very obviously different
And then of course thereās the fan-favourite Composite Supermanā¢ļø where you take all his best feats from across continuities and put them into one character
even ignoring the different designs, stories, interactions and to an extent dare I say personality, these 2 also display very different levels of power
Imma be real I've only gotten like two months of work done over the past year in terms of writing because. Most of my energy I would spend writing has gone into dealing with other stuff dev-wise
And also said energy has been reduced because progress going so slow has kinda killed like 70% of my motivation
That sucks
add skibidi toilets to the lore
mods can we kill this user
that aint enough there needs more work to be done
anyways I infer that this user is prolly not even old enough to be on discord, or barely so; they must've heard of Diddy purely through memes and not understand how truly terrible the man is, and decided to put it as their name due to how the memes = funny, I think it's consistent with the skibidi toilet stuff they be saying so
anyways random shit aside can we maybe not have some guy who just joined who is named after a terrible person not say random skibidi toilet stuff aight, if skibidi toilet was all I'd be fine but that name is not
I will damn you to purgatory
You will never reach the pearly gates
Considering they have only said 3 things and 2 of them was in general saying āim sigmaā and āam i sigmaā
Yeah idk how much they care to exist
Yeah i agree theyre prob not old enough, or theyre a troll
Send them back to the coal mines
Isnāt the Ceaseless Void the portal to the Distortion in and of itself?
I thought thatās what it is and I donāt remember where I got it
it's a portal
Correct
Its a somehow permanent portal to the distortion
the only stable one we know though
It āfights usā because the dragon cult put a bajillion self defence spells on it
So does its suction power we see in some attacks possibly come from it opening that connection ācause if it is alive it should be able to control it right?
Its not alive
Its an object
The distortion just has weird gravity powers in there iirc
Like dog shifting gravity or whatever the blue and purple phases do
DoG background my behated
The self defence spells are prob just utilising that aspect of distortion magics
CV battery
I always thought itās alive? We fight it after allā¦
But I guess it was an assumption I made
I think the dragon cult just uses it as a battery in general
Yeahp
Noep
Although this is fantasy so it's fair to assume that
Okay, so then while weāre on the topic why are the sentinels connected to the DoG?
What is that all about nowadays?
They aren't sentinels anymore
Oh?
They are just from the same place
The distortion
Weaver is a loose animal afawk
Signus is a high ranking being from there
weaver is the same as DoGās kind yes?
DoG we know even less about
Equal to noxus
Yes
Yharim thinks so but he sucks at biology
Draedon corrects this and says weaver is older and different species
Okay another thing I always connected
Tbf it was the case in old lore
Old lore the wretched
Yes Draedon always accurateā¦
But he is a good source
He is a better source then
Yharim
old lore on its way to make two trios of underlings that only exist to hype up one boss
Certainly
Indeed
This is why Signus should be reworked to be stronger than DoG
I wonder how much other stuff I have wrong about thisā¦

im fine with signus being physically weaker
Yeah
i just want that damned title gone
Theres a doc in the pins if you are fine with the reading
I was making a joke
not funny didnt laugh
Oh, Iāll look
machine
like the snake
You been looking at too much of tofus art
maybe
Wat is it
i dun think ive seen that
Idk if I have either
Unknown
Cataryst
Ah
It was easier to find it there than the art server sob
for those not in catacord
I found anotha one #404775052005867530 message
I think it could use more colors but it's still a wip so fair enough
I think the surface should also get overhauled, but I think the Astral rework went from just the underground to just everything now
So it's gonna be solved
Also have any of you seen Enamoured's now scrapped design for Deus
Nope
Though Iāve been looking at that lore doc and I find the lunar excavation goal of Draedonās interesting
I find it interesting draedon never considered the thought of going there until ml was dead
Link btw
Yeah
No one knew if ML was weak enough to actually face
The fact that whatever draedon heard of this being was enough to intimidate the thought of ever going to the moon out of the guy i find interesting aswell
Even by this point with Exotech?
I mean when last time it was here it soloed thousands of dragons
Thatās bad
You'd be pretty worried to face against it
I still would love a mod that lets ML heal and reworks progression enough to let us face him at full power
Its a walking extinction event that lethally wounded a yharim with exoauric level creature (zeratros) while fighting a entire civilisation of mystical super dragons
Silva deserved her fate?
True
Unlikely i think
Not like she is stuck forever tho
it was suposed to be gone a year ago


tell me about it
Well that explains why it hadnt been nuked
Was nuked and yet its ghost lingers on
Your a ghast
was suppsoed to be added in bountiful harvest but
that ended up releasing before we fully 100% settled on a title
Yoooo new title
lma
Lol
lma
laughing my ass
Rip
I'll take that as a no
is there any way to look at some archived version of the lore before all the retcons
there's any lore of the discord rod?
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Not really
We do know it utilises primordial light (which is why jared enrages when you teleport with it in the abyss)
Made of good god stuff
Uses primordial light
Not sure
We know chaos elementals(drops rod), empress (gets that from gods iirc) and the god/dragon of PL (xeroc/zeratros) can use it
Not even permafrost can
So its kinda unknown how and why things can use it
Zeratross was the dragon of the primordial light, isn't it?
Yes
Hi lore chat
Hey GGG
so. only him and Xeroc could use it?
Well no, it's more like it was their Domain, they could freely wield & manipulate it at a whim, but it can be wielded by others, examples include;
-Empress Of Light
-uhh
-others
These are the things that have been able to use pl
-Zeratross
-Xeroc
-Empress Of Light
-O
-T
-H
-E
-R
-S
is that correct?
yep
Chaos elementals
Empress of light
Zeratros
Xeroc
i've forgot uhh
RoD
I would hardly say Chaos Elementals can wield primordial light
so if jared see Empress of light get mad?
When she has primordial light yeah
(When it's day time)
So she has to be actively basking in the divine rays to use them
Whereas Xeroc & Zeratross dont give a shit about that & can use it whenever however whoever
Zeratros is the only guy who might not piss jared off
Since they may not count as usurping light by controlling it idk
Who the hell is Jared again?
Teleport in abyss to find out

Someone playing calamity while streaming it came across a glitch where after dying jared was friendly and followed you
They named them jared
Then the name took off i guess

And then it got made into jareds name for gfb i think?
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