#lore-discussion
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Peculiar instances
rng
Is this just general talk 2
When there is no lore, yes
Ok
Basically yeah
With lore being talked about more often but yeah off topic is common
Even with 4 mods
Outside of Calamity spaces, I've been recognized once I think
Ironically, by the owner of a Rain World mod I truly admire
I don't think anyone has ever recognized me and I'm ok with that
even now you all are wondering who this random person is
I recognize you
:frickyoy:
:thumdown:
Rain world
I just completed the leukocyte RWSC
While doing pilgrimage
false memories
john stormweaver
oh shoot I've been found out
btw weaver mod port gonna be posted in like 10 minutes now that I remember to do it
what weaver mod...
the storm weaver mod
it's literally called storm weaver mod
it's canonically the best mod to ever exist
has anyone done that as art yet
chill guy permafrost
I also like permafrost
I mean chill guy who only wanted the best for the world being allies with fucking genocidal mf
I'm gonna be a contrarian & say Calamitas Clone
Not because of anything she is right now, but because of the massive potential of the character
I dont even understand calclone lore
I think Scal freed it when draedon was making it
and she gave her powers to the clone???
maybe I am misremembering
Dreadon made a fully developed clone, but she didn't have any of her Brimstone Magic potential, supposedly proving Dreadon's theory about her magic not originating from her birth but other sources, got taken away to a storage facility & presumably shoved in a test tube, Calamitas prime somehow learned of this, broke into the facility containing Calamitas Clone, (gonna call her C.C for convience now) & somehow, presumably accidentally transfered over some of her Brimstone Magic
Leading C.C to go insane & stalk the night, where she was supposedly identified during her escapades by Yharim, Dreadon, & possibly Calamitas Prime?
oh I always thought Scal gave her powers to the clon in purpose beacuse .
because?
Fair
But given she went insane, & Calamitas doesnt seem like the kind of person to willingly watch someone who is also herself have a psychotic break
Especially not post-crusades
maybe she didnt expect the clone would go insane
im gonna say it wasnt intentional
I feel like Calamitas would be very well acquainted with the burden of Brimstone magic
Given it's volatile nature it's easy to say in such massive quantities like in Calamitas, it can affect the psyche
& even a fragment of that transferred over to a clone, & presumably some memories of Calamitas's life, given C.C knows about Catastrophe & Cataclysm
yeah, might make someone go a little crazy
also the clone itself replicated the bros?
Especially someone so inherently unaquainted with life, given she was grown in a test tube, & stashed away in a test-tube until Calamitas broke her out
Who the hell else would've done it?
maybe draedon somehow knew I dunno
If it was Calamitas they would've been signifigantly higher quality
& it's a necromantic facsimile
Last I knew Dreadon doth not fuck with necromancy
fair enough
I thought draedon made them only beacuse their names are "catsclysmic/catastrophic construct"
Dreadon doesnt got a patent on constructing things
If he did azafure would've been sued to the ground millenia before the Brimstone Elemental woke up
It's a reasonable conclusion I suppose but I shrimply don't see it
I always thought C.C made them
Cause if Dreadon made them
- Why not just make clones of Cataclysm & Catastrophe
- They're a bit shit for anything Dreadon would make, especially post-Crusades
fair enough
I just couldnt see the idea of the clone replicating Scal's necromancy
calamitas
her being manipulated into doing Terrible Things due to factors beyond her control and then only realizing it later and striving to not hurt people again like she did in the past is really compelling to me
and also partially because i see myself in her atleast a little given we both seem to have ptsd
calamitas is so cool
honestly really like DoG too
but not for the reasons most like him
usually i see people like him because oh hes badass and he devours gods and the music etc
but honestly
i like him because hes kind of pathethic .
like. think about it
you have this giant cosmic eldritch worm capable of killing gods
who then spends his time boasting about things he didn't do, making shitty lies that nobody believes, gamer raging at you actually beating him when hes armorless, and canonically being lower in the distortion hierarchy than a being physically weaker than him
he's incredibly intimidating and powerful to almost all beings but the moment you're above him he just becomes absolutely fucking hilarious
isnt he also being constantly manipulated
not thta we know of
also credit to yharim for being like the objectively best written character atm
hes up there too
not much to say about this one he's just really fucking well written
Boyfailure serpent
People fall for yharim propaganda, but people also fall for the propaganda that DoG is a cool dude
godfailure
still wonder if DoG would've turned on Yharon at some point
I mean does he have a reason to
but could he
he's gathering god essence for noxus
and considering yharon is one of the strongest auric dragons
good chance noxus would make DoG go after him
he'd have to turn yharon's soul into a god soul first
eh
I'm not sure if that is a hard requirement
we don't know what noxus is gathering the god essence for
could be for decor, could be that he can somehow absorb it
To destroy them 
Nah dawg is just hungry noxus hasnt had his breakfast yet
I never really thought about it but why did CalClone go insane and not SCal
might be for the same reason that SCal is the person who inherited brimmy's power
something special about her (that is beyond genetics) that makes her a suitable vessel for it
dunno what that special thing would be
She ate her soul
nom nom
scal neo
I think it's about what life they both lead before obtaining Brimstone Magic, Calamitas was raised by a loving family, she had people who cared about her, & lost that after attaining her Brimstone Magic, but managed to soon after find people to help her, guide her, even if in destructive ways, eg. Yharim & Permafrost.
C.C however, has nothing, at best she had a life in a lab being raised by machines, at worst she never even experienced living before Calamitas broke her out of Dreadon's storage facility, so she's sourrounded by all these overwhelming sensations & feelings & just left to fester in them, with absolutely no-one, not even herself, throw in Brimstone magic with that it's no wonder she went insane, it's really sad honestly 
Well written
thanks
Anyway that's just what I think the difference is
It's a force of will, powered by love & friendship (& hatred) that C.C lacks
that's a really interesting way to think about it
Is the player ever explained in the lore?
insert overused_image.png here
The terrarian’s lore is up to you
Unironically don’t ban me for saying that
Lowq I wanna give calclone a hug
Yeah i’m gonna be completely honest this sounds like a question with no answer that isn’t meant to be solved
?
landlord
The terrarian’s point is that you can make up like 99.98% of the lore yourself
And I really like that
except for the landlord part obviously
i'd also toss in the fact that it's implied calclone had to take all of calamitas memories and experiences at once
aneurysm
Having to see all of that in the blink of an eye would definitely affect someone's brain
at least cal had time between them + support with perma
clone had nothing but a tube and a grasshopper robot monitoring her
homegrow your own cal
why would I 
what if i ate the entire development team whole?
Why would you do that
that would be rude i think
If you do that we will never get yhim upadte
conspicously development team -shaped throat
i give u permission to eat merkalto
I developed my ideas on what we know to be true 100%
Making stuff up constitutes 90% of my presence here
:(

shur up
where else do you think he builds and stores his shit??
most apt name nonetheless
Because I definetly believe C.C has some memories (otherwise how do Cataclysm & Catastrophe Constructs exist?) But the shrimple fact is we don't know enough
hmm
Checkmate liberal
ok stop
I refuted the proposed hypothesis with facts & logic
this implies that draedon is working on modliquid...
just how Dreadon would've wanted
Chat would you eat exo prism ice cream
i would eat exo prism
That sounds like just eating 
what do you think draedon tastes like?
metal
are we talking rust patina kinda thing or smooth metal?
steel
Anyway back to this
C.C's existence is confused agony
im sorry but when I read C. C. my brainrotted ass immediately thought of fnaf
Fnaf five nights

Excuse me?
Why would you want to know-
scrumptious
You know that taste when you got blood in your mouth? Like that. And yes prolly like oil
Ye this
I’ve tasted one of his bodies when he tried to experiment on my dog
My teeth was in shambles
I did make him go away at least
Alright i've asked who's the best, now I gotta know
Who's the worst Calamity character?
(Or just the one you hate the most)
Hmm
Hmm
DoG is a prick
Fair
The fight is shit, the theme is mid
Yeah the fight is shit
I was trying to think of in a lore perspective but yeah gameplay wise Ravager or dog
i think scourge of the universe is a bop and universal collapse works well in game, but UC doesnt work in isolation
Really? I thought the fight was good
Idk
It was a painful wall but overcoming it was the most satisfying thing ever
DoG's fight is not good and i'm glad the laser walls are getting nerfed next update
Though I don't get dissing Scourge Of The Universe & Universal Collapse
Isn’t there a glitch where the laser walls don’t align with the indicator?
those go hard
Calamity fans when personal preference
Yeah that's easily the worst part of the fight
Also dog just doesn’t
Try eating you
UC works well in game as a continuation of SotU but by itself it's just kinda alright
The laser walls are often broken and the lasers are often misaligned to the original outlines
It's like ND but 3 tiers of progression too early
Also the character is eh
And the laser walls get nerfed in infernum
As in more time to react
Like
Yes
There’s def not enough time for someone to react to them
In infernum they are also clean and aligned correctly
I like how infernum does dog mostly but the amount of invincibility phases in p2 and p3 is ridiculous
i'm glad they're getting axed for the reworked fight (in 37 fargo years)
What are even the current priorities of the next update?
Sunken sea
complete overhaul of the sunken sea
Also major lore drops
I thought that one happened already...
also respriting & reworking desert scourge and slime god
Name of update: sunken sea overhaul part 1
What are the other major gameplay things?
Oh shit forgot that
SG gonna be peak
Oh yeah the revealed sprites look really good
Eh, if it did that was fucking ages ago and this still outdated
I don't read updates I just see that they happen
Anyway it's cool that the Crimulan & Ebonian Slimes are gonna have more distinct roles
If you’re interested in update stuff go check the future contents document in the pins of #calamity-update-talk
Anyway didnt an answer on this one from anyone except Deltaw & Orios
I don’t think any character is bad tho
are you asking about writing quality or the character themselves
I think it’s a combination of character & quality
I went mainly with gameplay tho :P
currently i think amidias is a lil undercooked
but that's understandable
he's getting basically his own update
Holy Collider
'The first weapon to have received Her divine mark, She carried it as a symbol of Her cause—marking the beginning of the end of sin and suffering... or so She had hoped.'
Wyvern's Call
'Being the amongst the first lifeforms to feel the threat of the interstellar invader, many wyverns led the charge against Its cavalry; misled by distortions in the atmosphere, they ultimately rallied to their grave in space's cold embrace. Now, as the magic of centuries past begins to disperse, shrivelled corpses occasionally plummet to the earth from their artificial orbit.'
these two lean more heavily into headcanon territory...
[link removed]
What do people think of this for a SS minibiome theme
Feels very nice for a crystally place
Because of the cute windchimes
had to post that in a void server to make sure it wasn't a rick roll
I would never
can't be too sure
good
and yeah i agree
this is pretty awesome
i don't find rick rolls funny i find the song good
I don't like the song much either but I'm also just too j-rockpilled
isn't this guy a weirdo?
What makes you say that
pressured someone to draw NSFW art of them, threatened suicide as blackmail for personal benefit, as well as just being a manipulative creep in general
Oh wtf
regular tmodlet stuff basically :(
theres an entire thing that I don't have on me at the current minute
hence why i suggest that this link isn't shared, so they can languish in obscurity
ikr
Lorous
yharimgangnamstyle
Yharon left because of this
'The favoured weapon of all beings, mortal or immortal, mundane or divine. Its beautiful form—radiant no matter the type of light one shines upon it—inspires hope in its wielder and strikes unknowable fear into their enemies.'
canon and realisticentry
from a totally unbiased source (me
if someone told me submarine shocker were viable for thanatos I’d believe them
my head cannon for subshocker its that its main material is dried fish
If that’s unbiased then yharims trustworthy
you're implying that yharim isn't trustworthy????
Am I?
If you are unbiased then I’m implying he is trustworthy
You implying he isn’t?
also
entry
Slagsplitter Pauldron: a potent example of offensive armour, this hand-crafted, three-layered artefact draws upon the restless energy of the crags to enhance physical strikes with the blazing power of hell. Each plate—forged from the skeletal remains of ancient ash trees—conducts and amplifies the brimstone magic dancing within its demonic core.
also dunno if i've shared this here so
Community: even after its owner has been dragged beyond the Veil, this heart beats solemnly and steadily. The power that flows through the wielder’s body from this artefact once allowed the Ocean Princesses’ bond to remain unshakeable no matter their distance, but unity cannot last forever: nothing can.
Mrrrp
either
Hai guys
America.
Oh that’s how America spells it?
Artefacto
wanna write a grand guardian entry because it looks cool as hell
but i can't think of any ideas to work with
which is the exact opposite to the issue i've been having with fault line
Well it's made of the Majestic Guard, which is made of Souls Of Might, so maybe you can tie it into Yharim's soldiers?
What are the properties of Profaned Crystals?
I imagine they have healing properties
The crystal in the middle of Providence is her heart
The crystal in the Healer has amplified magic
Speaking of
Does anyone think it's really cool that the Calamity Gods are so abstract & not just angelic-resemblant people?
Like it's so interesting that they warp into these strange monsterous creatures
It feels like a pit-hole alot of media falls into
Thing is not all of them do change dramatically, some weren’t changed all that much so what is the rhyme and reason for it is also a interesting thing to think about
But yeah I agree it is a cool idea that calamity has with them
Calamity gods aren’t the same as how we would think of gods
I think that’s why
so random thing
y'all think it'd be a stretch for an auric soul of magnetism to create a god of wards?
What is a ward?
a magical shield
It could work though that would depend on how wards work in calamity I think
yeah compare them to like, greek gods
who are very human looking
I like the greek/roman gods because while they still are gods they are rather humane as they still have their petty troubles and weaknesses
Did they mod abuse???
zeus powertripping
I prefer a more abstract interpretation of Divinity personally
Now either i'll get a nod for mentioning it or publically executed, but Fear & Hunger has a very fascinating idea in theur catalouge of 'Old Gods'
Calamity while isn’t abstract it is certainly quite cool
Their existence is altered by how humanity, or otherwise with beings of higher conscience, percieve the things they represent, but they can never truly form within the world because everybodies idea of what a concept is is different
Cool
So you can only encounter 'Traces', something that is both eintierly the God, & at the same time a manifested fragment of it in places where the concentrated concept is strongest
But there's also New Gods, Gods created by humans going to the city of the gods, Ma'habre, & sitting on the golden throne, ascending them, but they're nowhere near as strong as Old Gods
How about hive mind
do you mean the calamity boss or 'what if a hivemind formed & everyone had a unified idea of what 'destruction' looked like'
Unified idea
Well, that is impossible in the setting, except for one thing
could jumbo josh beat yharim
The Ascended God, Logic, from Funger 2: Termina
yeah probably
To explain an ascended god is an artificial old god created by either a human having a child with a new god or 'science™️', they kill an Old God in this process & supplant them
(except you cant really kill an old god they just kinda get kicked to the curb)
Logic in the A-Ending of Termina unifies human conscience in a massive possibly literal wall of ideas around Earth that guards it from space & the 'green hue', which is where the Old Gods originate from
it's a divine stand-in for the internet i'm pretty sure
But we don't really know what possible ramifications that eould have, or if it's even a hive mind
Given the Old Gods dissonance from humanity they probably cant just will them into existence
has this ggg fellow became a new lorer
amazing
the hive mind grows
time to read over this convo cuz im bored
Yup
I mean it's what i've been doing 
You see it's hard to tell when someone is just passing by with some lore questions or if someone has became an active new lore chat member
Seems like you're falling under the latter
Absolute lore
Well I sparked like 3 discussions so far & dropped a multi-paragraph analysis of Calamitas Clone as a character & what seperates her from Calamitas
so i'm pretty sure im locked in for as long as the autism remains in my heart
So many autism people
This kind of thing tends to attract our kind
True
My terraria autism has been happening since I was 9 :provg:
I am now near an adult so…
I think my autism will last a bit more
my madoka autism solos
Nah, I’d win
My Kingdom Hearts & Funger autism are gonna join forces & obliterate you
Throw in the Yakuza autism?
it's over
my warframe autism:
Shout out to that time I sent multiple 40 minute voice recordings of just me ranting about terraria to my bestfriend when I was like 12
limbus...
fishmael
In the walls rn, straight up whispering it,. And by it? Haha… well let’s justr say….. my void

I love calamity so much, as someone unable to hold a fixation for more than 2 days, this mod managed to keep me hooked up for 5 years now, even tho i only play for a whole week every 3 - 6 months
Tbf 3-6 months is generally enough time for some update to get put out
Yeah
I predict my current burst of Calamity autism is gonna fade early february, then re-emerge when my Calamitas plushie arrives
Fade, & then get a stranglehold on me when Yharon arrives
Are they still selling them? 
February to may/april (whatever’s later) is when I guess sso comes out
Yharon or Calamitas?
Yharon plushes
Also happen
lol
Im still with a png i found on google 9 months ago
So what are we discussing regarding the lore
I dont really know
I brought up the interesting interpretation of divinity calamity has & ranted about fear & hunger lore for 15 minutes
lebron james
About as on topic as lore chat is normally
We all agree that draedon has the voice of gianni right?
He did in that one trailer didn’t he
Yeh
Then yeah the closest thing to a canon voice we have
Imagine if calamity was voice acted
Calamity fandub when
Before even thinking about that, i think the npc dialogue boxes could be fancier, i think there are mods that do that right?
like gianni matragrano?
What other gianni you know?
He's technically the closest to a canon voice we have as he voiced draedon that one time
Calamity is a alternate timeline where Gabriel instead of angel was instead a machine
I always imagined something more doctor hayden from doom
Dear lord
That gets grinded down to dust by basically any attack
Doctor hayden is like the prime example of a draedon voice in my head yeah
His prime body is probably way more durable than his recon body
Does he have a prime body tho
From what we know he just has several recon bodies
I dont know who is dr hayden so i will search it brb
I mean he has to have an original body
The guy that made him didnt just upload the Dreadon consciousness to a control matrix it was sent directly to that body
Eh
& one would assume somebody eould go through pains to ensure their magnum opus wouldnt cave in on itself if it got whacked by a whip
I mean it's highly implied draedon is his own inventor
Converting consciousness to code type shit
I see it as possible but not like the 100% true answer
He may have had a main body in the past but nowadays he could be uh
Basically everywhere
No i'd say he definetly still has a main body
He can remotely control his creations that doesn't mean they're all inherently him
Draedon is in my F16
Draedon isn't attached to a specific body, he's essentially just, lines of code, that get copied and pasted over several thousand different recon bodies, which uh
trust me bro
make him functionally immortla
I'd say operating a recon body is like slapping on a VR headset
Draedon is a ai
Just slap controls on another recon and it’s functionally the same as the “main”
i talk to him everytime i fly to my favourite coffee place
nah id say its more of a
trazyn the infinite situation
Ok Taylor swift
-# we’re they even the person who got in trouble for using a private jet a unnecessarily high amount
Correct
Well at the bare minimum I like to imagine Dreadon has some form of sentimentility for his original body
It seems like the kind of thing he'd do, given his anguish over you naming HS-04 (I think?) Skeletron Prime
He would do that though
If we ever see it it's gonna be the size of a fucking Evangelion & laced with Exo prisms sitting on a golden throne like he's the god emperor of robokind
Draedon is already like 20ft tall with the recon drone iirc
What? No, he's like, double the size of the terrarian
That's because he's sitting down
When he's standing up he's
A good bit taller than any humans
Yeah like 8ft
He has gamer posture...
That’s like 12 foot tall while sitting down
gamer lean from spending too much time at the forge grinding
SHRIMP-
🦐
just popped 4 melatonin im gonna die tonight chat
Wtf I only ever take 2
I take 16
i think you'd die
as skeletron you have no body
no way samesies!!!
incredible
we have no reason to believe this. The most practical approach for him to take is for each of the servers in the countless labs throughout the world to be like his neurons
he may still have his original body as a backup though
yeah but that's boring
i like the cool idea better that he has all his other bodies & his original body that he's upgraded with all his developed technology
he doesn't have an original body, it's more accurate to say he's in all of them in some capacity and just diverts his attention to each one when needed

what do you mean
hence why each body would be equipped for different purposes
his creator didnt upload him to 17 bodies at once
his consciousness must be linked to all of them in some form
he definetly distinctly has one original body for which he was made to exist in & then ported into
he shrimply proceeded to make more
his origins are too unclear to make this assumption
It feels quite clear
why would a being like himself even have an original body to be attached to?
Dreadon never refers to himself as a plural thus its fair to assume he never started existence as one
he isn't human and lacks those sentimentalities
he's not a gestalt consciousness though
there's a difference
& yet, he critiques & jabs at the Terrarian for 'Skeletron Prime'
Skelli mechi is a better name
The way he words it it's more than a correction he is actively upset at the horrible naming convention
mom says it's my turn to be draedon
no way is that John draedon??
He obviously has some even base form of emotions
draedon please stop insulting my naming skills, you didn't even invent miracle matter how dare you criticize the moniker i gave it
As all sufficiently advanced A.I would eventually develop
we stan mean dreadon
-# so do I to be fair
im squidward im squidward, squidward squidward squidward
yeah but those are different to being sentimental
draedon probably could have emotions, he just chooses to ignore them
My point he has the potential for sentimentality
he doesn't have ethics, they are below him
he literally only cares about scientific discovery
so what if he destroys an ecosystem in the process
holy shit bondrewd
draedon is above the ecosystems
hi im jane exomech
I think Sulpherous Sea was a 'whoopsie' & not an 'intentional' moment
no way
Was referring to the Plague
hey which hex member do you like the most?
given all his very active reassurances that he isnt trying to destroy the world
Also, Draedon could fix the Sulphur Sea, he just chooses not to because "it'd be a waste of time"
that's being careless of the impact
no he definitely knew it would fuck things up
I imagine Silva would be in stark opposition of him tearing it up by the bedrock & rebuilding it
he just didnt care/was curious if it would change the already polluted environment
and he was right, it did change actually
"So what" is that it destroys an ecosystem that he potentially could've studied. You mention that this is based on the releasing on the Plague, but Draedon states he is able to turn it off at any time with a kill switch, if it ever damages the Jungle's ecosystem to an unrepairable degree.
I mean, he's not opposed to enslaving Queen Bees
and they're important to the Jungle's ecosystem
besides them poisoning their hives, the lack of other Queen Bees...
Well he captured & converted exactly one Queen
& actively monitors the plauges development
Plaguebringers are additional Queen Bees.
Queen Bee's are clearly not important enough to the Jungle's ecosystem, since you can fight several Plaguebringer's and the Plague hasn't been turned off.
Im quite sure Plaugebringers are just queen larvae born infected with the plauge
We dont know if any refights are canon
i dont think Draedon ever plans on turning it off
What refight? They're a normal enemy that randomly spawns.
Well what refights are canon is mostly up to you within the limits of the rfights that can canonically happen
well, no, he at least did have an original body that he woke up in
slightly
Exactly!
if it gets too out of control he will
Anyway
we know this from things he said
Plaugebringers arent Queen Bees though
Queen bee refight are canon, they’re one of the few who are canon
Plaguebringers are Queen Bee larvas that matured into full Queen Bees under the control of the plague iirc
They are bee larvea produced by an infested bee host that are born pre-plauged
Plague bringers are infected royal larvae iirc
They are more or less queen bees, just deformed from birth
Do you know how royal larvae are made...
Which i hope their eventual redesign reflects on bc rn they just look like
smaller pbgs
they have no reason to be metallci,,,
Yeah but it's being worded like queen bees by the dozen are being converted actively
"Before you ask: I am aware that my nanomachines currently plague the jungle. I created a failsafe in case this happened, and have no intent of causing uncontrollable mass destruction. If it begins to threaten biodiversity or otherwise encroach upon my learning of Terraria, I will deactivate it myself."
He does plan to turn it off, only if he has to, though.
He's gonna turn it off when he goes "yeah i've studied this enough and its gotten too bad"
but while he has both a reason to study it and it's under control
yeah he's keeping it
I think he prioririzes studying the natural world (things he doesnt know about) over something he himself made
and yet people still say draedon wants to kill everyone 
yeah probably one of the worst places for a plague that assimilates the local fauna to be released in
given how much life there is
blame yharim... :sobv
not just that
the media comprehension of the average calamity player is baffling
it has the most potential to break out there
Is comprehension like understandment of something
i really dont think this one was yharim's fault, personally i believe that Draedon would have released PBG into the jungle eventually
That's probably why he made a killswitch gang
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 
aoi since she's nice i guess but probably a better question for like
gen media
did you know
whar the fuck

Yah sorry you didn't know
Where's john exotech

question for lore people was yharim killing innocent worshippers from the very start of his crusade or was that something he eventually began doing as the war dragged on
from the very start
now he doesn't say that directly, but you can infer it from how casual he is about it
Well we don't know for sure
while he admits their slaughter is evil, he views it as a much lesser evil than existing as a worshipper of a god
But based on what we do know, it's more than likely he already had atleast some deegree of Bad Tendencies from the start. Maybe he didn't outright murder innocent worshippers though
Yharim is quite corrupt
yeah i was kinda giving him some grace cuz i assumed when he started he would be only going for the gods themselves but idk if thats actually true
hes an evil motherfucker for sure but he does have morals (however skewed they may be) and even in the state hes in now where hes wracked by guilt he still thinks of himself as having been a "hero worthy of the dragons' name" at one point
he's not worthy anymore because he's not strong enough to kill xeroc
Keep in mind gods didn't deserve to be genocided btw
GOds are not inherently evil
Some of them are ofc but in the same way not all humans r good or evil
I think the best way to show how truly insane yharim was is the fact he
oh for sure i was more talking like, from his point of view since he believes all gods are complicit in genocide. not that that makes it okay to genocide them back but
incinerated the sunken sea, which resulted in
-the death of probably thousands, if not millions, of innocents
-the extinction of god knows how many native species and ecosystems
-the destruction of one of the biggest source of freshwater in the entire continent to other civilizations
all
to kill two people
who weren't even bad guys
just because they were gods
jesus yeah i kinda forget sometimes jsut the sheer scale of that
that's a bit disingenuous, cheese
oh yes of course
he wanted those ilmerans dead too, they weren't unintended casualties
What even is the world the player starts in, like there’s no way all of the lore just fits there, like is it a bigger part of something else?
i have to include the fact he used a mentally scarred and manipulated child soldier for it
YEAH
obviously its not objectively the worst thing he did but for some reason its the thing that gets me the most that he would try and make calamitas kill her father just because he defected
It's a bigger part of smth else
Our "world" ingame is just, a continent
we play on one continent
Yeah,,
Ahh okay, i see. I figured it was something like that
"Calamitas, I need your power once more."
"What is it, my Lord?"
"Your father has defected."
"I see. You wish for me to bring him back, then?"
"No. I want you to kill him."
"Huh?"
i NEED you to kill your father calamitas you don't understand
Who even is Yharim and why is the goal of the player just to battle with him
it's for the good of the crusade
He's the main villain
Kind of a bad guy
he's the guy who's talking to you through the boss lore items
The goal of the player is up to ur own interpretation since the terrarian isn't a solidified character as much as a blank template
before anyone does it, don't
i know you're still grieving the loss of your family to this day but can you pretty pretty please kill your father figure... For Me?
pwetty please 🥺
"Calamitas, I know you're traumatized by the fact that your power accidentally killed your biological family, to the point that you summon your brothers in battle through necromancy.
Can you go kill your adopted dad on purpose this time? Thanks."
thats another thing i wonder about the way the brothers died isnt like. for sure canon yet right. i kind of thought they might have been killed by gods/god worshippers because then it'd make sense why calamitas was so batshit while in yharims army and so willing to kill peopel for him
Calamitas blew up the city they lived in when she unlocked her powers
They were killed either by the brimstone elemental or calamitas herself (accidentaly) during their fight as far as we know
Thing is, there's rumours brimmy was awoken by a group of people, so technically still possible
ah yeah ive seen poeple talking about that but wasnt sure if it was canon or a theory
i was about to say it then i saw this 😭
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Insane lore discussion
lore is you
"calamitas did nothing wrong"
That aint even the full one smh
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Hi Omni
Music gotta be Skyfall btw
Hi DS
I mean we know some of them do like weaver
oh wait true
wait actually do we
does draedon explicitly talk about storm weaver's dna being what makes it different from dog or does he just deduce so from them looking different i forgot
basic x-rays proved that their endoskeletons were entirely different, and the difference in size tells all else needed. In fact, from what little I have grasped about both Serpents' biology, the Storm Weaver may have been older than the Devourer despite the sheer difference in power and size.
nothing about dna
Yuh
Ah shoot, beat me to the punch
mantis shrimped
Get slugbunned
one might even say pulse raptored
Guys yharon could tank a blackhole
This mean
Got bored
one does not travel to the forbidden land out of boredom
I did
So does anyone know the Wall of Flesh lore for the new lore as well as the Guides tie to it?
I think I remember it traps the Gods essence to prevent it from corrupting the world further but how was it made?
It is in the pins for the most part
Gotcha
Crazy how the two solidified facts we have about The Terrarian are:
-They're really good at killing things
-They're very bad at giving names to the things they kill
& this makes me question, how many boss names did the Terrarian themselves come up with?
Did they invent Skeletron?
probably
skeletron was just a random curse that the cultists gave to fucking chippy
Then doth come the second question
which actually came first
Skeletron
Or Skeletron Prime


Most likely the curse came first, then it's host, then skeletron prime
But not sure
maybe skeletron prime have another name but it's like
Old man might be immortal
It has a serial number or something yeah
It's HF-smthsmth
and we aint calling it like that
Skeletron prime was made for the crusade, so at most about 80 years ago
so the terrarian just connected the dots with skeletron and prime
We could have exact dates if I remembered where to find the dates given by draedon about beginning to work with yharim
Why did the Terrarian name Plantera Plantera?
The old man could be basically any age up to 1000 years old if his curse kept him alive, that's around the age of the dragon cult
Is they stupid?
i mean tbf we dont know if
the terrarian named it
but if they did maybe they rly like the band idk
Ok
mf named a random giant worm "eater of worlds"
not even "devourer of gods" can eat a world

This just reminded me that the name "devourer of gods" is based on the name "eater of worlds"
Ancient calamity mod
Three bosses
Old
Years ago
Calamity mod
how does draedon talk?
doing some VA stuff and i’m trying to figure out how i should write dialogue and read the lines
draedon is such a hard character to read figuratively and literally
casual inflections seem to work best but it’s very difficult to nail down any exact stuff
some of his dialogue seems introspective but only after extreme circumstances
probably like some professional scientist pulling out complex words
but I dont really know
speaker
oh wait do you mean tone and stuff like that?
probably yeah
maybe but draedon wouldn’t throw all the technobabble at the player unless it’s during draetalk
maybe when he is chill like in draetalk
and in the exos fight he is like testing out an experiment without talking too technical to the player
wish i could send images here but it’s just text so
which one of these is better for pre-fight dialogue:
The time has come for us to finally meet.
From all my observation, you have been identified as a statistical anomaly.
As such, I deem you worthy of being my primary test subject.
I have already made all necessary preparations for the battle, but you alone shall determine the outcome.
Now, choose wisely…
I expected that we would finally meet.
Your profound desire for battle has not gone unnoticed.
To this end, I have gone through the process of assembling a battery of experiments.
It is time for you to face my magnum opera.
Now, choose wisely…
they need to be short so eloquence and structure were kinda sacrificed
id say the first
Yeah first fits more
He never assembles anything for the terrarian, his creations are simply pointed in the direction of intriguing creatures
in this context, they kinda are
for exos?
I prefer the first
upcoming rework mod yes
i’m literally going caution to the wind at this point because i’m honestly freaking out and need to work on my voice acting immediately for various reasons
which means crowdsourced criticism
for tone he'd likely be monotone btw
lmao no
robot
already tried that, didn’t work
yeah no way
that’s why i’m panicking
He still feels bro
sounds awful so many weird reads
yeah I try to imagine a monotone tone and it doesnt look good
Many people (me included) consider Samuel Hayden from the Doom series as a fitting voice for Dreadon
so do I and my voice is monotone as fuck
clinical but not necessarily monotone
He's a robot guy but he has an interesting voice
There's depth it isn't just machine but there's a comparison to be made between both characters
yup that’s my next plan
One opened a portal to hell (for science) the other dumped an excessive amount of toxic waste in an already irradiated area & developed a nanotech plauge that threatened to subsume the world (for science)
they are both coldly logical & amorally driven by the pursuit
but there's a passion to it
i’m gonna be waking up at like 6:00 AM on a sunday in a cold sweat immediately running to my computer and starting to write more
wait no today is sunday
man shit it’s tomorrow already?
That's crazy
it's been sunday for 7 hours over here
yes they were very original when writing him
do you think if they met they would kiss or try to trap the other in a test tube to study them
gay
These arent mutually exclusive
@split pewter draedon's canon voice is that one ultra kill guy, and for his dialogue read the stuff in game
*the closest we have to canon
he did one trailer we dont know if gianni's in it for thr long haul
No, on Twitter when they had the half canon questions, Draedon said that's his voice
Or that he copied it or something
it is canon
Hello is anyone interested in a terraria calamity mod server with roleplay? We remastered the lore completely. Im asking cuz we need some lord nerds to rate it
How is the lore like
Wdym?
Its calamity lore
Just remastered
Some things are the same
But we changed it alot
i think i saw it
was it advertised on reddit?
It was!
Dm me if u want an invite
I can send all the docs we have on lore (so far)
sure
Yeah send me too
😈
how it feel having instinctively puppeteered this convo into happening
ITS YOU
sent
tlou
is it a ridiculous idea to consider the God of Sacrifices to be alive even after his transformation into the Ravager?
I think GoS is "alive" but it is in no way recognisable
ewwwwwwww
terraria rp?
thats so cringe
who would do that 
YOU’RE CRINGE!!!
||the joke is he's part of it||
part of that DISGUSTING server..
i heard the owner smells as well
🤮
nuh uh
But you're lunatic...
I'd say he's equivalent to a lobotomite in his current state
Confused dazed & incomplete
he can't put the pieces together
They’re as alive as calamitas brothers or any other zombie
Not alive more dead
An mindless undead
Who is sack
hi
ballsack
obama calamity mod
Shut
i am well aware
Monster Hunter Duremudira VS Terraria Calamity Yharim on who got more muscles
yea but im still just a dude
but you're not a chill guy
you're a lunatic dude...
bars
i heard no such thing
What do you think guys how insane is calclone and in what way is she
I'm placing my bets on hallucinations & psychosis
During jungle dragons fight, there’s a guy singing, he sings of some “i” dude, who is the Singer supposed to be? The dragon or the terrarian?
Or some third npc?
There’s also a line from the song where he goes “this is my message to my master” who is master even?
yeah it's pretty clear
The song is literally called 'Roar Of The Jungle Dragon' & contains the lyrics 'then you will have heard my final dying roar'
Thw singer is yharon
Their master is yharim
The person that destroyed everything they built is you
I think the demolishing everything isn’t really accurate anymore
Considering the crusade was long gone already 
Never knew the title, I just Dodge his attacks to listen to the Music, or his box
Well Yharim & Yharon still had the hopes of reviving the dragons

Yharim bringing back the era of the dragons would mean yharon alone rules the earth
Not earth
Terraria
the dragon cult is coping hard tbh
Yeah pretty much
hi cei
Why didn’t the dragon cult just get Yharon to revive the dragons for them? Are they stupid?
we were talking about calamitas clone, until we weren't

probably yeah 
I do honestly want more info on the cultists, and I assume the lunatic cultist bestiary will be rewritten in SSO
Cei can I ask something
Yeah all bosses are getting changed bestiary’s iirc
What's up
I want more info on Calamitas Clone
Do you think calclone is insane in like schizoid type way or in excessive agression or something else
i'm fixated on them & fascinated by their existence
Yes
understandable
please cei i need more cc lore
Does Xeroc prefer waffels or pancakes?
Wasn’t this answered ages ago
No it was noxus
Oh
And it’s a spoiler
Waffletime destroys everything so waffles I think
.
Don’t go too far in please :calg:
no
Is Dragonfolly from the dragon era ?
Dragonfolly itself isn't, but its species originated in the Draconic Era
I doubt the specific boss is, but the species is
Ok
How much do you guys think Calamitas Clone's lore will be expanded upon with her rework?
isnt it already there kinda
the lore
just the boss doesnt make sense with its sprite and stuf rn
i said expanded upon not explained
we know what happens i want details, the whys & hows, her cognitive workings
possibly her future
-# we kill her…
In my story she won’t be killed but she’s just left alone with her grief
That is very unlikely
The new writers are quite against retcons and rewrites
we dont know

It could get rewrote
But that’s super unlikely
Murder
hi cei
Cei that is very irresponsible
with the power of The Number 1, The Goat; LeBron James, no one shall murder me
god forbid women do anything

Hey cei could you please answer a question?
this was the sign i needed 🙏
Actually stip you'd prolly be a better person to ask
What type of god do you think an auric soul of magnetism would create?
I was thinking of a god of wards but idk
Asked earlier about Yharon song, now i got curious about calamitas song
You think calamitas is just such a powerful being that she has a background of choir people singing for her?
The song isn’t accurate to lore so it’s not canon sadly
The lyrics mention her following yharim
When she abandoned him a decade ago and is attacking us cause she thinks we are yharim 2
i also don't think the terrarian would sound like yharon

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shoots u with my big gun
Noooooo 
Hmmm
Hard to write a specific domain that properly conveys their powers
But something like Attraction, Telekinesis, Voltage....
I was thinking something related to defense because of how magnetic fields protect planets
Considering there’s multiple options
Maybe pick whatever fits the character ascending the most?
Correct
God of Forces (and by extent force fields)?
Magneto
do you guys think Xeroc has a garden
They could but I doubt they have a need for it
Well obviously they don't need it
industrial weed farm
It just feels like the kind of thing Xeroc would do
True
maintain a little garden, he seems pretty down to earth from his boss rush dialouge
Just remembered the 24 hours of perm reactions this place had
Such peak
And the terminus and rock tooltips also suggest that I think
Yeah, so I can see him doing gardening
there's an obvious metaphorical through-line with his station as 'supreme number 1 god' & with a gardener, & the role of a gardener is yet a very humanizing thing
Almighty Push
i know he says "a god does not fear death" but is the dog an actual god? with noxus being a god, a god doesn't need to necessarily consume an auric soul right?
No, and Noxus isn't a God either.
Nope, they do
All gods have consumed an auric soul
FYI, Wrath of the Gods isn't canon
so the Noxus from the addon and Calamity's Noxus are two different things
Noxus isn’t a god
God by definition means you have ascended using an auric soul
Because that’s how you become a god
where else would they grow their weed
the weed store, duh
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