lore-discussion

[dusk laurel]

TRUE

[pliant ruin]

astrum deus not being a god and being post ml

because like

[dusk laurel]

Murderswarm would make more sense

[pliant ruin]

none of the post ml bosses are

except prov

[untold oracle]

Roar of the jungle dragon:
Servants of the scourge:

[rotund shore]

dragonfolly is a boss i usually just ignore until post dog which is really dumb

[pliant ruin]

The fact folly event hasn't been fully officially confirmed yet makes me think some devs are actively denying it. I will find you. I will track you down. I will forcefully feed you a lemon

[rotund shore]

given its supposed to be like first or second post ml boss

[pliant ruin]

i wouldn't be surprised if

[untold oracle]

Yum

[split mortar]

Folly isn’t even needed btw a rare enemy also drops feathers

[pliant ruin]

servants of he scourge gets replaced tbh

[dusk laurel]

True

[untold oracle]

True

[dusk laurel]

It's kinda boring

[pliant ruin]

it's too "minibossy"

and

literally just the DoG theme but remixed

which yknow. dosent really. yeah

[rotund shore]

I know but tbh its faster to kill folly then find the enemies

[untold oracle]

Miniboss while ceaseless void is literally the toughest boss in expert rev imo

[light linden]

I hate ceaseless void's fight

[random mulch]

same

[dusk laurel]

The Ceaseless idea of it spewing out Distortion enemies is a cool concept for a rework

[split mortar]

Unironically imo DoG is

[pliant ruin]

also based on my headcanon that yharon's "natural habitat" is actually the jungle nad he just isn't fought there bc he goes after you + hasn't been there in years bc crusade this still makes sense

[light linden]

it isn't hard but I genuinely can't tell what is happening half the time

[dusk laurel]

I think Cheese said this

[untold oracle]

Your entire screen is a projectile! Except not in a fun way!

[rotund shore]

id kill for each rune of kos boss to get whole new themes

[untold oracle]

It’s just bullshit maximus

[light linden]

personally I like the old theme for them

because it feels like I'm getting to the end game when I hear it

[untold oracle]

I dislike how the dog laser grids are often broken and the lasers actually don’t match the outlines

[pliant ruin]

I mean

you fcan still make it feel like the endgame

[split mortar]

Oh what

[pliant ruin]

while nto making it a remix of a unrelated boss's theme

and tbf are they even the endgame

well ok

[light linden]

so I wasn't going crazy

[pliant ruin]

signus probablyi s?

[dusk laurel]

DoG lasers my behated

[pliant ruin]

they're getting retiered i think

[dusk laurel]

I'm so glad they're getting removed

[pliant ruin]

i kinda see weaver being early post ml

but signus is gonna be late i think

[split mortar]

Not post dog

[pliant ruin]

would only make sense

i didnt say that

kills you

stabs you 37 times

man i really like stabbing people 37 times its like

the number of times is tab people the most

[light linden]

also uh

[untold oracle]

The only way to fully dodge them imo is to RoD into the top corner and fly as fast as you can

[split mortar]

But then you get hit by second batch

[dusk laurel]

One of the devs said Weaver being pre-Provi, Ceaseless being post-Provi, and Signus being pre-DoG would be cool

[pliant ruin]

yeah thats pretty neat

[light linden]

off topic but do we know if the wings we have are unique?

[untold oracle]

That’s why you fly fast

[pliant ruin]

So would signus be post-old duke

[dusk laurel]

Also this would give Folly more of a reason to be an event

[pliant ruin]

cuz from prov to dog you'd have

Ceaseless, Polter, Ravager, Old Duke

And polter and ravager r gonna b on the asme tier iirc

[untold oracle]

I think so

[dusk laurel]

Yeah

[random mulch]

why must calamity's foundation be so jank

[pliant ruin]

pre-dog seems to imply post old duke which is pretty crazy

[untold oracle]

My glorious you-grow-wings-and-they-grow-over-time headcanon

[pliant ruin]

signus getting cracked

[split mortar]

Or equal

[rotund shore]

signus does need to get cracked tbh

[pliant ruin]

could also b that yeah

[dusk laurel]

Signus getting the treatment he deserves

[rotund shore]

its such a weak fight rn

[pliant ruin]

post ml boss progression is wack

accounting for all future changes you have

[untold oracle]

I find post-ml to be just a speedrun

[rotund shore]

so much between provi and dog

[light linden]

Reason I'm asking is because the godseeker knight boss in my add-on will flat out grab you out of the air with his pulse dragon and I just realized that might be kinda random for them to know how to do

[untold oracle]

And then you get the agonising event grind

[dusk laurel]

Signus should be fought in the Distortion imo, since it'll be unlocked by then and he's getting moved from the Underworld

[light linden]

I like that part tbh

[random mulch]

real

[pliant ruin]

(theoretically) profaned biome boss > space boss > (theoretically) profaned biome boss > dungeon boss > dungeon boss/crags boss > sulphur sea boss > ??? boss > distortion boss > anywhere boss > anywhere boss > anywhere boss > aerie boss

[dusk laurel]

No you don't

[untold oracle]

It’s just
Zerg potion + kill kill kill

[light linden]

yes

[untold oracle]

20 minute inconvenience

[pliant ruin]

i do kinda hop

e

signus is a themed boss...

[light linden]

and I like watching my dps go crazy

[pliant ruin]

as in u need to spawn it in a biome

cuz

ALOT of post ml bosses

u can juts spawn anywhere

[dusk laurel]

Well, the buffed events are getting removed, so enjoy it while it lasts ig

[pliant ruin]

**astral infection boss > **(theoretically) profaned biome boss > space boss > (theoretically) profaned biome boss > dungeon boss > dungeon boss/crags boss > sulphur sea boss > ??? boss > distortion boss > anywhere boss > anywhere boss > anywhere boss > aerie boss

See this would be

further reason

to make deus a astral boss

more boss variety,,,

and also

[dusk laurel]

Even then, you'll be in the Distortion killing things for the energy replacements

[pliant ruin]

another thing ot fight before providence

so actually getting to her

feels more impactful

the fact that u get both of the dungeon bosses in post ml tho

is wack

but theres nothing u can rly do about it

atleast not without fundamentally reworking calamity boss foundation and that ain't happening

[random mulch]

calamity progression truly is a perfect example of accretion

[rotund shore]

neither CV or polter feels like they could make sense outside of post ml

[untold oracle]

CV could maybe?

[dusk laurel]

And they're very close in progression

Like, you can just fight them back to back

[pliant ruin]

I don't think CV could realistically be hardmode with the way things are rn

[untold oracle]

In the very same archive too

[rotund shore]

it also hurts that the two dungeon bosses are so close to eachother

[dusk laurel]

CV unlocking the Distortion removes any possibility of it being like Harddmode, and even then it'd contribute to Hardmode boss bloat

[pliant ruin]

rewrite a little bit of the lore so one of them can be moved to anoither biome. make ceaseless an abyss boss or something

[rotund shore]

I know alot of people do CV as last rune of kos, and if you do then theyre right next to eachother in progression!

[pliant ruin]

actually wait i think tghat could work?

eidolists

they're a thing

[faint plank]

yeah

[pliant ruin]

the seal could still be placed onto it ifi t was on the abyss

and like

[rotund shore]

cute idea but I dont wanna fight a boss in abyss

[pliant ruin]

it would give an actual reason

for them being down there

[light linden]

yeah 2 abyss bosses is a hard no from me

[pliant ruin]

i think it being in the abyss fits better than any other biome that isn't the dungeon

jared isn't a boss

not going to be anyways

and even rn its barely one

its a glorified dungeon guardian that for some reason has actual loot

[rotund shore]

I mean jared isnt even really a boss

[light linden]

I don't even like the primordial wyrm fight

[dusk laurel]

That's because no one does

[pliant ruin]

[dusk laurel]

It needs that rework badly

[pliant ruin]

it's being de-bossified

p sure

[dusk laurel]

I'm not sure

[pliant ruin]

might be wrong but i remember smth abti t just

not being a boss anymore

bc it just dosent work well as one, evidently

[random mulch]

i dont think it's really even intended to be a proper boss fight

[untold oracle]

Lunatic cultist except 800 damage

[light linden]

and I doubt I'd like the flying vortex that fills the screen with random crap in an area that messes with movement

[pliant ruin]

it's not but it's in this weird spot where it's not fully commited to being a boss yet still has attack patterns and loot

[pliant ruin]

Make it so the boss disables the movement changes, or just, build the boss fight around that

[dusk laurel]

It should be like a stealth event imo

[light linden]

also I uh

can't lie

[dusk laurel]

You have to sneak into the Abyss and take the Terminus with alerting it

[light linden]

I feel like opening a portal to another dimension in a deep sea trench would be a HORRIBLE idea

[pliant ruin]

i think moving ceaseless out of the dungeon is probably easier than doing it with polterghast since polterghast is inherently tied to the dungeon in terms of aesthethcis, being a overgrown phantom spirit

[light linden]

distortion would be flooded

[pliant ruin]

Hidden place 👍 people cant detect you as well

[rotund shore]

stealth mission in terraria is such a funny idea

[light linden]

like immediately

[pliant ruin]

i dont think the distortion would be flooded because its the distortion

its a batshit insane dimension

make ur own rules

[rotund shore]

distortion is fucked, that is all

[pliant ruin]

i think

ur just seeing things to narrowly

[random mulch]

mfw the best solution to wacky progression is extremely unrealistic

[pliant ruin]

ceaseless would be annoying in the abyss?

make the boss fight built around it being on the abyss, so it isn't annoying

wouldn't make sense for a portal to be opened there bc of all the water?

[dusk laurel]

[pliant ruin]

the distortion is a eldritch otherworldly place, just find a explanation: the water dosen't go through the portal for whatever reason, the dimension's physics don't work like our own, etc

[rotund shore]

how deep in the abyss would it be

[pliant ruin]

probably layer 4 i dont see where else

its got the most space too

[dusk laurel]

Layer 4 is already really empty, except for the occasional wyrm and Reaper

[pliant ruin]

layer 4 temple structure

guarded by eidolists...

they gave up their human bodies to guard the portal

💥

[dusk laurel]

🔥

[pliant ruin]

i'm gonna dm cei this also

i've already dmed her Dinosaur Dragons (peak)

[humble fog]

cv put a rain jacket on

[pliant ruin]

i think it's worth proposing this idea

if i managed to get devs interested in dragonfolly event i think there's a possibility that this might b viable

[dusk laurel]

I guess suggesting it in the regular suggestions wouldn't work

[pliant ruin]

yeah not really

but i can suggest using my ‼️ evil developer connections

[dusk laurel]

[untold oracle]

Cheese lobbying the calamity devs:

[rotund shore]

but thats like evil and stuff

[pliant ruin]

😭😭 😭

they call me the influencer

[untold oracle]

Cheese is literally EVIL

[dusk laurel]

She turns evil every so often

[split mortar]

When isn’t cheese evil

[pliant ruin]

i think the biggest problem with this idea would be if there's too much stuff in the works or planned regarding dungeon ceaseless taht would be really hard to change if this were to happen

but maybe it isn't the case and there's not enough work done in that regard where a big change like this is possible

i mean, there's a ceaseless resprite in the works

[dusk laurel]

Yeah

[pliant ruin]

but nothing about it really says Dungeon, tbh

if anything

it looks very.....

[dusk laurel]

Spiky ball thing

[pliant ruin]

abyssal........

[dusk laurel]

#calamity-update-talk message This thing

Spiky ball

[untold oracle]

Is cheese actually secretly spoiling us of an upcoming rework

[dusk laurel]

There are 3 types of Brimstone

[split mortar]

Don’t think so

[split mortar]

What

[dusk laurel]

Normal, whatever the fuck Cal made [Vulnerability Hex]

And pink

[rotund shore]

barbie brimstone

[dusk laurel]

#calamity-update-talk message

I'm not kidding

She's gonna be pink

[untold oracle]

Wtf brimmy is so amazing

[rotund shore]

yasss girlypop slay!!!

brimmy will slay surely

[untold oracle]

Looks like a touhou character

[spring helm]

Calamitas has bullethell phases so that tracks

[split mortar]

Tbf it is phase 1

[dusk laurel]

Yeah it's only p1 Brimmy

[rotund shore]

brimmy does need a resprite and yeah this blurry ass image of it looks cool

[dusk laurel]

It's official

Dia leaked it

[spring helm]

They should use the blurry image as the sprite

[untold oracle]

💯

[dusk laurel]

I'm sending a shrimp after you

Prepare to be fried

[mighty zenith]

so retro

[spring helm]

I’m allergic so please don’t

[rotund shore]

her current design is definitely a well known one (because woman) but shes just, red, and that is all

[dusk laurel]

Her new design is already peam

[spring helm]

Peam

[untold oracle]

That weapon too looks hella sick

[spring helm]

We better get it as a drop

[dusk laurel]

True melee ahh weapon

[light linden]

random thing

[mighty zenith]

she should ummm have a glaive

glaives are awesome

[dusk laurel]

Demoting you smh

[light linden]

y'all saw the HotE resprite right?

[dusk laurel]

Yes.

[spring helm]

No?

[dusk laurel]

Well, the minions

[spring helm]

Banana

[untold oracle]

Link please

[light linden]

am I the only one that thinks the brimstone elemental resprite looks like scorpion from mortal kombat?

[dusk laurel]

The item itself does not have a public resprite

[spring helm]

What, like green water Anahita?

[light linden]

with the whole flaming skeleton look?

[dusk laurel]

I have no idea what that means

[spring helm]

Haven’t played so idk

[pliant ruin]

The flaming skeleton isn't the brimmy resprite

It's HoTe

[light linden]

ik

that's what I said

[pliant ruin]

oh mb

didnt read that part

[dusk laurel]

I'm so glad Dia is redesigning the elementals

[pliant ruin]

truly

other than anahita (and cloud elemental Kind Of) they're pretty boring

and even if cloud elemental is Ok i like her being sleepy more for obvious reasons

[untold oracle]

The sleepycheese agenda…,

Anahita design is fine yeah rn imo

[pliant ruin]

anahita is a really good design honeastly i love her shes cute

if only she wasnt murderous

[dusk laurel]

Yah

[untold oracle]

She splashes water on your face

[dusk laurel]

I like the size disparity between the elementals

[frozen zodiac]

i like that calamity made the sand elemental have an actual design compared to vanilla where its just a sand person with boobs, i really like the rare one with the shorter hair and flower decoration

[dusk laurel]

Anahita is sort of small and then you get to Brimmy

The Brimmy resprite is like twice the size of the current

[untold oracle]

How does that fit in the crags tho?

[split mortar]

Crags overhaul

[dusk laurel]

Well, okay, not twice the size

[untold oracle]

Right

[dusk laurel]

but like, 70% larger

Not much of a difference

[median helm]

The real brimstone elemental is the size of anahita, it's just a huge mana barrier that surrounds her so she doesn't violently explode 🗣️

(Like how permafrost said it works)

[uncut storm]

what did Calamitas do after leaving Yharim? just like, go off to a cave and be a bum?

[split mortar]

Yeah far as we know is basically that

Then heard of us and tried to kill us

[untold oracle]

She freed her clone and then self-exiled herself to a cave (most likely on another continent)

Then she tries to kill you after having a ptsd panic attack of you being a potential Yharim 2

[raw scroll]

anyone know a good vid for the lore for those of us who can't read

[split mortar]

There’s no perfect lore video (inaccuracies or believing yharim) but I think midnight minutes video is generally a good start

[raw scroll]

ty

[spring helm]

The biggest problem of having like half the lore be told to you by Yharim: you believe what he says

[untold oracle]

Half is outdated, half is yhapaganda

[untold oracle]

Mreow

[split mortar]

No

[untold oracle]

☹️

[pliant ruin]

Nya~

[untold oracle]

Nyanya

[hoary cape]

I am skinning cheese

[pliant ruin]

mrrow?

[mighty zenith]

🫕

[untold oracle]

❌

[dusk laurel]

Mrrrp

[hoary cape]

You can't stop me

[mighty zenith]

no but i can beat u to dearh

:333

[dusk laurel]

😨

[untold oracle]

It’s geckover

[hoary cape]

Hey Garbo I would like to report Garbo for threatening me

[mighty zenith]

sure gimme a moment

alright banned

he wont threaten y

[untold oracle]

Fake

[hoary cape]

Thank you Garbo

You are the best double banned trial mod

[rotund shore]

thank you garbo for banning garbo

[dusk laurel]

Suspicious how Garbo and Gecko both start with a g and vowel

Omg

[mighty zenith]

hey guys im here as replacement for garbo

[dusk laurel]

John Fargo

[untold oracle]

And end with an o 🤯

[dusk laurel]

Terrifying

[untold oracle]

Literally alts

[mighty zenith]

thats me

john fargo

[untold oracle]

Uhhh mods????

[mighty zenith]

from the throium mod

[untold oracle]

permafrost calamity mod

[mighty zenith]

this is just like when brian family guy was hit by a car

[untold oracle]

Infernum nohit mfs when they have to survive family guy funny moments try to not laugh challenge (impossible)

[dusk laurel]

[split mortar]

Prikki and misty are dying

[untold oracle]

What kind of attacks do yall think Yharim will have

[rotund shore]

I hope yharim just fucking punches us sometimes

[dusk laurel]

Yharim's True Paladinian Melee-Sword of Might

He just stabs you

[snow mountain]

i hope yharim kisses us

[untold oracle]

⁉️

It would be funny if he had contact damage that throws you around

[rotund shore]

I do beg that yharim contact damage does auric rejection unless you wear auric tesla, it'd be so funny

[snow mountain]

i hope contact with him jumpscares the player

[dusk laurel]

Yharim should summon an auric ore box that you have to fight in

[rotund shore]

[mighty zenith]

realistically it should reject us even with auric armkr

[snow mountain]

lies

best outcome

[untold oracle]

Yharim should have deerclops ai!!!

[dusk laurel]

[mighty zenith]

our auric is basically neutralized

[untold oracle]

You can walk on auric tho with auric tesla on

[split mortar]

I think mock auric blocks rejection from passing through it

[rotund shore]

I can see that but I feel like alot of people would be mad that theres no counterplay

[split mortar]

Pretty sure full auric blocks a
Ore from hating on you enough for knock back

[mighty zenith]

oh right yea

[dusk laurel]

Weaker armor in exchange for no rejection

[mighty zenith]

actually true

that would be a neat way to balance it

[snow mountain]

its canon, its in the lore

[rotund shore]

would make auric a bit more viable for yharim too

[snow mountain]

it'd look good on our resumes too

[untold oracle]

I have a design for mock auric armour that still rejects and does other stuff too with auric rejection

[dusk laurel]

[snow mountain]

i think i should make a fridge magnet

[rotund shore]

only calamity character id kiss is uh nobody 😎

[snow mountain]

fabsol comm flashbacks

[untold oracle]

Actually it would be cool if when you had multiple armour options in the future, auric is better for Yharim because it makes you immune to rejection while having lesser stats

[split mortar]

Should prob not talk about that

[snow mountain]

i can't stop myself

[rotund shore]

idk if it should be outright better, moreso a sidegrade

[snow mountain]

self control

i think the abyss would

have a waffle house

it has to be canon

[rotund shore]

best case scenario, auric, demonshade, exo, and like maybe gem tech should all be viable

[split mortar]

Auric, Exo and demonshade are going to be sidegrads

[rotund shore]

I dont care about gem tech ill be real

[mighty zenith]

who does

[dusk laurel]

Gem tech isn't real

[snow mountain]

hehe donator item

[split mortar]

It’s like all class no hit armour

[snow mountain]

bloat

[rotund shore]

gem tech smells bad

[split mortar]

Every armour smells bad

[rotund shore]

surely atleast one armor smells good

[untold oracle]

Silva armour smells fresh I think

[split mortar]

Name one

[dusk laurel]

Solar

[untold oracle]

Burnt

[split mortar]

That would not really have a smell and if so probably burning

Which I don’t think is a good smell

[snow mountain]

cirrus's dress

alcohol

[split mortar]

Idk what alchohol smells like so I can’t say anything about that

[dusk laurel]

Calmain users are not gonna be able to beat the allegations

[snow mountain]

HOW

[split mortar]

I’m 17

[snow mountain]

and?

[rotund shore]

man

[untold oracle]

Isn’t alcohol smell same as hand sanitizer idk I never smelled alcohol

[split mortar]

I don’t live in a house where alchohol consumption is common

Or really done

[dusk laurel]

Uhhh, Silva [resprite] and Perennial [the resprited version]

[snow mountain]

actual children i forgot where i was

[dusk laurel]

Plants must smell good, right

[spring helm]

Cattus

[split mortar]

Silva armour would smell of dragon bird (wild animal ew) and salty oversaturated with water plant goo (prob not much of a smell other then the sea)

So not silva armour imo

[split mortar]

Have not smelt a cut cactus to know

[dusk laurel]

I'm talking about the resprited version, why would you still use effulgent feathers in a plant armor

[split mortar]

Then the plant part still stands and wouldn’t smell good

[dusk laurel]

The 2nd part, ye

[split mortar]

It wouldn’t smell bad

But not good

[dusk laurel]

You smell bad

[split mortar]

Nuh uh

[light linden]

question

if we were to throw an auric soul fragment at yharim's armor would it lose the rejection?

[mighty zenith]

its probably not that simple

[strong notch]

how do you even attempt to throw soul at the armor anyway?

[untold oracle]

Prolly no

It doesn’t work like that likely yea

[stoic gulch]

Capture in a bottle, throw at yharims armor

[mighty zenith]

capture yharim in a bottle

[dusk laurel]

I doubt it's that easy

It wouldn't reject the fragment, but that's it

[strong notch]

new upgrade to storm in a bottle just dropped

[stoic gulch]

Honestly link would kinda do that

[stoic gulch]

New upgrade to sandstorm in a bottle too

Just make it the effect of auric ore

When you touch it

But in the direction you want

[strong notch]

obtainable as drop from Yharim on GFB (real)

[stoic gulch]

Real indeed

[frigid sage]

What is Auric Rejection?

[pliant ruin]

you know when you touch auric ore in calamity and it flings you into the statosphere

yeah

[strong notch]

when auric ore decides to make a pinball ball out of you in short

[rotund shore]

when auric ore go zappy against non worthy people

[mighty zenith]

(non worthy aka people who aren't attuned to/own an auric soul)

[stoic gulch]

Ok so basically yharim has gotten accepted by auric ore cause he’s nice towards dragons, if the auric seems you not acceptable it gets weaker

[frigid sage]

Ok

[pliant ruin]

no its not that

[stoic gulch]

So I was almost correct

[pliant ruin]

it dosent get weaker it literally repulses you

[stoic gulch]

That’s good for me

[pliant ruin]

like

it literally flings you

[frigid sage]

It’s like magnetism

[stoic gulch]

Very funny

[frigid sage]

But extreme

[pliant ruin]

its like magnetism but reverse lmaoo

p much ya

[strong notch]

it's pinball with you

[stoic gulch]

Yah

[frigid sage]

I use veinminer so I wouldn’t know

[pliant ruin]

even with veinminer

[stoic gulch]

If I would get max defense I would play terrarian pinball

[pliant ruin]

if u touch auric ore u get 💥

[mighty zenith]

yea youd have to physically touch it

[pliant ruin]

walk ontop of it! fun experiment!

[frigid sage]

Why does pickaxe not get auric rejected?

[stoic gulch]

It’s a pickaxe

[pliant ruin]

good question this has been asked before and i dont think we know

[mighty zenith]

something something wood handle

i think

something of that sort

[dusk laurel]

Your arm is just that strong

[rotund shore]

its hard for us to like grasp how auric works

[pliant ruin]

ok that amkes sense actually

[dusk laurel]

[pliant ruin]

wood does

[strong notch]

yet golfball gets rejected

[mighty zenith]

isolators still work on auric iirc

[pliant ruin]

stop electricity from flowing

[mighty zenith]

which is why braelor could stand up to yharim so well

[rotund shore]

oh wood handle makes sense, but like does the bloom pickaxe really have a wood handle

[frigid sage]

Uelibloom is organic

[mighty zenith]

uelibloom is also dying so

[strong notch]

does it mean i can just mine it with wood armor then?

[mighty zenith]

maybe

would be funny if wood armor specifically was immune to it

[pliant ruin]

suggestion time

[mighty zenith]

maybe the isolator has to be tough enough

[dusk laurel]

🔥

[mighty zenith]

and the handle is just made from a stronger material

[stoic gulch]

Spooky armor

[mighty zenith]

esp since currently its the blossom pickaxe and thats wood

we'll see when uelibloom gets removed what its replaced by

[rotund shore]

Yeah I do like the idea that even with silly magic ore, it still had to actually be able to conduct through whatever its trying to reject

[spring helm]

I wonder if you can attune the biome blades to the elementals

[light linden]

ngl

kinda wonder when the elementals came into being

also regarding the whole pickaxe thing

I feel like the reason it can mine auric is because it's made from the essence of a god

it's similar enough to an auric soul to break auric but not similar enough to work with it

[stoic gulch]

It would be extra declined probably

Or is that how auric works

Idk how auric works

[dusk laurel]

Auric soul ≠ deific soul

Like, gods can't work with auric

[light linden]

@dusk laurel

[dusk laurel]

This has been confirmed, so the same goes for the essence

[mighty zenith]

ok

then gelpick should be able to break it too

[dusk laurel]

[light linden]

fair point

nvm

[dusk laurel]

I think, shroomite digging claws should be able to mine auric

What could possibly go wrong

[stoic gulch]

Is there shroomite lore

[dusk laurel]

Mushroom trees exist

[stoic gulch]

Mushrooms is also very good insulators

[mighty zenith]

i think shroomite is literally just

[dusk laurel]

Therefore glowing mushrooms, and inadvertently shroomite could be considered wood

[mighty zenith]

chlorophyte being taken over by glowing mushrooms

since thats what happens to jungle grass

[stoic gulch]

Crabulon bars…

[dusk laurel]

❌

[stoic gulch]

What’s chlorophyte then

Like

Plant energy

[dusk laurel]

Crystallized chlorophyll ig

[stoic gulch]

Ah

Which is probably good insulator

[dusk laurel]

But yeah, shroomite is probably what garbo said

[stoic gulch]

Probably mashing the spores inside it to make it easier

With the auto hammer

[hoary cape]

Crabulon bars 🔥

[stoic gulch]

Would crabulon be good at singing

[hoary cape]

No it's dead

The body is being controlled by mushrooms

[stoic gulch]

What if the mushrooms made vocal cords

[stoic gulch]

The mushrooms is included as crabulon

[hoary cape]

It's still a zombie

Name one zombie that can sing

[stoic gulch]

Zombies makes groans

[hoary cape]

It's a crab crabs don't make noises

[stoic gulch]

Papyrus can

[stoic gulch]

As I said what if mushrooms made vocal chords

[hoary cape]

Crabulon would be the best singer ever

[stoic gulch]

True

[light linden]

papyrus is a skeleton

[stoic gulch]

Yea but they have even less vocal chords

[light linden]

also random thing

[stoic gulch]

I know from personal experience

[light linden]

y'all think dragonfollies could make for good cavalry?

[hoary cape]

As skelli's cause of death I know from experience that skelli knows from experience

[hoary cape]

Possibly

[stoic gulch]

I’ve only died thrice because of you

Prikki has made me die like eleven times

[hoary cape]

Make it four

Burns you

[stoic gulch]

I got resistance to it tho…

I think

Oh I’m immune to it

[latent raft]

Fellas, is the cannon way the player fought the bosses the one like aquatic scourge? Like did the bosses pull up themselves?

Cuz someone here told me that boss summons arent cannon

[frigid sage]

Yeah

The random boss spawn mod is more lore accurate

[latent raft]

Mod??

[stoic gulch]

Yeah a mod that makes bosses spawn randomly

[latent raft]

Huh

Well no I meant calamity’s natural boss spawns

[dusk laurel]

Most bosses jump you

[latent raft]

Like anahita and aquatic scourge

[latent raft]

In lore?

[dusk laurel]

AS is not an example of this

[dusk laurel]

Yes

[stoic gulch]

He’s just chilling

[latent raft]

He’s just a chill guy who conquers seas

[dusk laurel]

You attack Aquatic Scourge first

Yharon just appears

Ingame you use this strange egg but that isn't real

[latent raft]

“Hello everybody my name’s Yharon and today we are going to kill this random guy because my boss said so”
-Yharon

[dusk laurel]

Yharon attacked us on his own volition but okay

[latent raft]

“Hello everyobody my name is Yharon and in this video Im going to kill this random bozo”

[latent raft]

little did Yharon knew, that random bozo could easily kill him

[frigid sage]

Lore accurate Calamity should be a mod

[stoic gulch]

Not easily

[frigid sage]

Random boss spawns, hardcore, bosses can only appear once

No summon items

[stoic gulch]

Is the boss drops canon as well?

[frigid sage]

Yes

[frigid sage]

What would that entail though?

Actually I’m not sure

[stoic gulch]

Would make the weapon pool a lot less

And if anything boss drops should be like the best weapons in lore

[frigid sage]

Ores are probably canon

[stoic gulch]

Auric def is

[frigid sage]

Yes

Uelibloom is a placeholder I heard

[light linden]

it's a relic from the old lore

[frigid sage]

Ah

[pliant ruin]

boss drops r canon

they just dont

literally drop it

usually, anyways

[frigid sage]

Ok

[pliant ruin]

some of them probably do

[frigid sage]

They are real things though right?

[pliant ruin]

like leviathan teeth, the trident anahita has , or spine of thanatos, those reasonably could literally be dropped from the boss

yes

like desert scourge weps per example r probably just, crafted from its remains

alot of weapons can be explained with "you make these out of the boss's remain"

[frigid sage]

Elysian wings are the wings of providence

Drew wings are unexplainable

[pliant ruin]

Drew wings r not canon

dev item

[dusk laurel]

OD collects his weapon drops

From old dragon hunters

[rotund shore]

Spine of Thanatos is metal as hell tbh, to just rip out its spine and use as a weapon

[frigid sage]

Craftable weapons are canon though

[frigid sage]

I forgot

[light linden]

[dusk laurel]

Depends

[frigid sage]

Not dev ones though

A canon only challenge run would be hard

Bosses can only be fought once

[light linden]

also random thing

ik the origins of the evil biomes are different but is the crimson still partially a disease in calamity lore?

[mighty zenith]

it spreads, but thats bout it

its not a disease

[rotund shore]

Also impossible technically

Endothermic energy is needed to fight exo mechs, and frost moon isn’t canon at all

Not to mention you’d have to play on hardcore which is hell

[split mortar]

No

That’s where you can headcanon otherwise

[pliant ruin]

simply headcanon ur stuck in a time loop

become akemi homura

[light linden]

akemi homura?

[dusk laurel]

Yeah it's not a disease

[rotund shore]

I like almost want to do a canon only playthrough but like

It’d be such a pain

And then I’d have to straight up make an exception just for the sake of endothermic energy

One playthrough I’ve considered doing is taking terrasteels idea of starting with an encumbering stone and never taking it off, although for calamity I do believe that would be impossible to beat

[light linden]

random thing

I imagine y'all know what antarctica is right?

[rotund shore]

Ye

[light linden]

you think there's an equivalent of it in calamity?

[dusk laurel]

Unlikely imo

I think ice sheets at the poles are very possible

[light linden]

ik there's the inverse of it

[dusk laurel]

But actual land is a different story

[light linden]

with whatever is going on in that literal hellhole

also

do we know if any gods perfectly ascended other than silva and xeroc?

or are they the only two?

[dusk laurel]

We don't know

I'd say likely

But they aren't important enough to have been mentioned yet ig

[light linden]

hmm

I mean they could've just been killed already

idk if a perfect ascension means they're dramatically stronger or something but I feel like there's some domains that just aren't that powerful

e.g. envy

[dusk laurel]

Perfect ascension just means they have the same domain as their dragon iirc

[light linden]

tbf the only perfect ascensions we've ever seen are also very very strong

[dusk laurel]

Strength comes from their domain and prior strength, and then what they do afterwards

[light linden]

e.g. whatever the hell xeroc is and silva who can not die

[dusk laurel]

Xeroc for instance was already around Yharon level before ascension

And then he started training afterwards, becoming even stronger than pre-weakening ML

Most of Silva's strength imo comes from her being the nature elemental

She draws power from life

Shakidou is more powerful than Silva after all, perfect ascensions aren't everything

[light linden]

shakidou?

[dusk laurel]

Space god

[light linden]

is that a card game?

oh them

[dusk laurel]

Silva's the 3rd strongest god ever iirc

So there is a correlation

[rotund shore]

how have I never heard of shakidou who is this

[dusk laurel]

So one day, the writers came in here and told us they were gonna introduce a new god

And we had to guess

We discovered the dragon's domain was gravity and the god's was space [like your surroundings, not outerspace], then they decided on the name

[robust osprey]

I see worth to point he is the god of the geometrical space and not the space with stars and shits

like that one pokemon

palkia

[dusk laurel]

Also, before anything gets said, the gravity dragon could not make black holes

[rotund shore]

phew we dont get the gardevoir adjacent nonsense

[dusk laurel]

Multiple people have brought that up as a point, so I just wanted to clear this

[robust osprey]

if it were able to create black holes it probably would be the strongest dragon

[dusk laurel]

I reckon it was one of the stronger dragons

Since powerful gods require that the dragon and ascendee to both be pretty strong

[robust osprey]

yeah it would have been like 3rd or 4th strongest maybe

beacuse of the god being one of the strongest as well

[dusk laurel]

Shakidou was the 2nd strongest ever ye

[robust osprey]

so probably the dragon was like 3rd strongest

[dusk laurel]

Not necessarily

[split mortar]

All we know of the gods power is that it’s below scal and exos

But could be above yharon

[dusk laurel]

Xeroc got such an overmight compared to the others since he was training a lot

[light linden]

ngl

[dusk laurel]

This could be a case where the god actually tried to become as strong as he could

[light linden]

I'm tryna make that tectonics dragon and I can't decide on something

[split mortar]

That is?

[dusk laurel]

Maybe a dragon of the land?

It could be a grounded dragon

[light linden]

do I make them a western or eastern style dragon?

[light linden]

that's my idea

[dusk laurel]

I'd say western imo

[split mortar]

What part of the world gets hit by earthquakes and other tectonic activity the most

IRL world

[dusk laurel]

Although it's up to personal preference

[light linden]

pacific ocean iirc

[pliant ruin]

I think a tectonics dragon could honestly be more of a literal lizard or turtle than a actual western or eastern dragon

[dusk laurel]

Yeah

[light linden]

I mean hell

[pliant ruin]

honestly a turtle works best imo

[light linden]

my idea for their front two legs was uh

[dusk laurel]

That'd be p neat

[pliant ruin]

cuz with a turtle u can incorporate both land and sea elements

[light linden]

y'all know mega gengar?

[dusk laurel]

Turtle dragon

[pliant ruin]

and tectonics, well

they affect both

[mighty zenith]

uhmmmm gamera

:3

funy turtle kaiju

[light linden]

how its arms look really weird?

[pliant ruin]

tbh was thinking more

dragon turtle

from dnd

[mighty zenith]

cool guy

[dusk laurel]

This thing rocks

[mighty zenith]

i just said gamera cause i have that one gif of it permamently stuck in my head

[light linden]

I was thinking the front two legs could look similar but have them be stalagmites instead

[light linden]

I'd show what I've been drawing but uh

[mighty zenith]

i dont know where i found this

[light linden]

yeah

[dusk laurel]

I miss Fargo the Aureus Hater

[mighty zenith]

sorry he was shot

[pliant ruin]

for me a dragon of tectonics could b like

something dragon-turtle esque

but instead of like, a shell

[light linden]

why do you still have the hat?

[pliant ruin]

it has like, a landmass

kinda like crustle

yknow the pokemon

[mighty zenith]

why not

[pliant ruin]

yeah

[mighty zenith]

lasagna

[light linden]

I'm thinking something else

[mighty zenith]

mm rock lasaga

[light linden]

making it look more volcanic

[pliant ruin]

that could work too but we have 2 dragons themed around fire already so it might be a little less cool

[mighty zenith]

geyser maybe

[pliant ruin]

actually i think the 2nd one might not be canon

[mighty zenith]

kind of like camerupt

[pliant ruin]

idk if a geyser really fits tectonics

[light linden]

also uh

[dusk laurel]

I think I have an obsession with the Scourges

[light linden]

what god do y'all think an auric soul of tectonics would even make?

[split mortar]

Lmao

[split mortar]

Vibration? Rock?

Metal?

[pliant ruin]

Metal god goes hard

I'd wanna say metal

vibration seems a bit abstract

and idk

not a huge fan of super abstract domains

and rock is just kinda boring

[dusk laurel]

I think rocks would fall under the domain of any dragon that's in charge of the land

[split mortar]

There’s a god of life and a god of space

[pliant ruin]

i imagine god of metal being some sort of kinda really rigid dictator type guy

life rly isnt allat abstract

space is though and uh

thats my least favorite domain

never said i liked it

[dusk laurel]

Yeah, it's a bit eh for me

[split mortar]

Just giving an example that god domains can be abstract

[pliant ruin]

i never said they can't be

I said i don't like them too much

[split mortar]

Fair

God of pressure possible?

[pliant ruin]

actually

i feel like

god of rocks also probably wouldnt exist bc i feel like its almost guaranteed there was a dragon of rocks

really broad natural concepts like that tend to b dragons

fire, frost, life, death

[split mortar]

Ah fair

Then wouldn’t metal also be likely dragon

[pliant ruin]

yeah probably

god of the forge....

dnd reference

god of forging

[split mortar]

Hephaestus

[pliant ruin]

TRUE

just make a big guy who carries around a furnace hammer as a weapon

[split mortar]

God of forging does seem the best for a god

[light linden]

ngl

[split mortar]

Rather then metal and stuff

[sinful adder]

A god of forging wouldn't be a guy with a hammer, he'd be a living forge

[light linden]

I feel like there'd be a dragon of metal

[split mortar]

Yeah same

[pliant ruin]

not necessarily

gods vary alot in how much their body distorts

[sinful adder]

I mean, probably I think

[pliant ruin]

compare silva and otonilou to slime god and providence

i think them being like an azzer would be cool... from dnd

[sinful adder]

Yes

[pliant ruin]

god of forging trust

basically just a big dwarf guy made of metal and fire

[dusk laurel]

YEAH

[pliant ruin]

im adding the god of forging to roy

trust me

(jk

[dusk laurel]

A dwarf god would cool

[pliant ruin]

ive missed

[dusk laurel]

Especially for forging

[pliant ruin]

ppl making fanmade dragons and gods

its super funa nd sparks fun convos here

[cosmic zenith]

Same

[dusk laurel]

Oh hey Stip

[cosmic zenith]

Hello

[pliant ruin]

hi stip

oh wait a DEVELOPER is here

my. my plan

it must be enacted.

hey stip can i dm u :3

[frigid sage]

Wdym by perfectly ascended?

[dusk laurel]

Same domain

Perfect ritual

[frigid sage]

Ah

[split mortar]

@light linden

[light linden]

oh stip you're here

[pliant ruin]

They retain the same domain as the dragon they absorbed the soul of

[tall delta]

I find really weird how xeroc was the only god that trained

[light linden]

[pliant ruin]

I mean

i doubt

he was the only one

I don't think anybody said he was the Only One

[cosmic zenith]

I'm always here

[light linden]

can I please ask a question stip

[pliant ruin]

he just did it alot

[split mortar]

You wanted to ask them a question didn’t you?

[cosmic zenith]

:)

[pliant ruin]

stip stip stipppp

[cosmic zenith]

Inside your walls

[pliant ruin]

can i dm u userrr

[cosmic zenith]

Sure!

[pliant ruin]

i have a . proposition.

tyy

[dusk laurel]

😨

[light linden]

specifically one about dragon design please

[frigid sage]

Like how the dragon slime god person consumed was the gluttony but slime god is the god of slimes

[tall delta]

but why arent there another god that also trained a lot then

[cosmic zenith]

Sure!

[light linden]

how would you convey magnetism in a dragon?

because I am very very stuck

[raven terrace]

I don't think God's get a lot stronger through training. They'd definitely hone their powers better far and away tho.

[frigid sage]

Is Auric rejection like magnetism?

[dusk laurel]

Xeroc

[frigid sage]

What does Xeroc look like?

[dusk laurel]

We don't know

[split mortar]

It’s been stated Xerocs potential is the highest possible in calamity iirc

[raven terrace]

Higher than us?

[dusk laurel]

Yes

[raven terrace]

We never beating him-

[dusk laurel]

We won't kill him, if he gets added

[frigid sage]

Normally when a dragon dies on the aerie their power will get recycled right?

[split mortar]

Thanks to yharon rebirthing their souls

[frigid sage]

Ok

But when the soul is consumed their power is lost

[raven terrace]

I want to know more about Xeroc sometime. He must have a good story outside of what we know.

[split mortar]

Its auric power is converted to god power

Not lost but irreversibly changed

[frigid sage]

What does the “warned” role mean?

[dusk laurel]

[raven terrace]

Like a monster absorbing a human soul! The combination is an entity with godlike strength.

[split mortar]

I’m a bad omen

[sinful adder]

It means they broke rules

[pliant ruin]

whos to say there isnt though

[frigid sage]

Ok

[cosmic zenith]

Hmm
Well, firstly you need to research what electromagnetism is and how it acts
And then how it's usually portrayed in media

Media often uses metal and color-coded north and south magnetic poles to represent magnetism, so you might wanna take some elements from that
But also you give those ideas a new spin, or figure out new ways to portray it

For example, you could give the Dragon metal scales which are magnetically stuck to a more naked, highly conductive body
Or you could make its skin have patterns made out of magnetic field lines, like the plasma patterns in the Sun
You could play with red and blue, which are common depictions of the north and south poles, throughout a design

[tall delta]

If you consumed an strong auric soul then probably, but terrarian lore is not so up to you so you will never see that ingame

[split mortar]

Xeroc made the ascension ritual by themselves I doubt anyone else will be able to train as efficiently as them

Also they could just be unable to reach as strong hights of power no matter how hard

[tall delta]

yharim killing 90% of the gods

[raven terrace]

But everything about the Terrarian is up to us short of being bad at names-

[cosmic zenith]

If you really wanna detach your design from mainstream, identify what's the most common trait across existing portrayals and make sure to either twist it or avoid it

[tall delta]

and the space god being the second most powerful god

[sinful adder]

Anyways, Xeroc is the strongest thing capable of existing in the calamity universe, and unless you write your terrarian to do things they can't do in game, then you couldn't beat Xeroc. No one else could either.

[frigid sage]

Did Yharim kill the space god?

[sinful adder]

Probably

[dusk laurel]

I mean, he's dead so

[light linden]

noted

thanks

[raven terrace]

Is Xeroc neutral?

[frigid sage]

If there’s a space god then there’s probably a time god

[split mortar]

Space god is dead nowadays and yharim did hunt the gods so

Id be surprised if his forces weren’t involved

[split mortar]

Not really

[dusk laurel]

He strays closer to being benevolent imo

[frigid sage]

Is space god related to Astrum Deus?

[split mortar]

No

Well maybe

We dunno

[frigid sage]

Oh wait physical space

[dusk laurel]

He's protecting the world after all, and made the surface more bearable to live in

[split mortar]

Yeah it’s geometry

Not stars and shit

[dusk laurel]

Deus is just a space animal that's decently powerful

That also got worshiped like a god

[light linden]

ngl

[frigid sage]

In the old lore DoG eats Astrum Deus which is Wierd

[light linden]

kinda wonder if one could tame a Deus

[raven terrace]

Despite this there are millions upon millions of monsters, blood moons, the natural terrain and the world evils.

It's nice he's doing what he can though if that's the case. Strange we never see him.

[split mortar]

Domains are always close to the dragon domain

Far as I know no other dragon is closely related to time and space like the gravity dragon

So I think space god is the only person who could have been time god but got space instead

[dusk laurel]

He's protecting against more dangerous, outside threats

[light linden]

before Xeroc the sun cooked the surface of the planet

[dusk laurel]

Ex. Noxus and anything like Moon Lord

[dusk laurel]

I already told them that btw

[split mortar]

Xeroc likely made the surface hospitable for people so that is possible help

They could also be hunting or on the lookout of alien threats like fovos or even specifically hunting noxus

[raven terrace]

It kinda feels like not a lot of normal people live in Terraria these days. Either that or it's just select people wanting to move in with us.

[dusk laurel]

We live in a fucked up part of the world

There's not as many people

[split mortar]

We are on the ground zero continent of the crusade

Like

[dusk laurel]

Also, large nations aren't much of a thing

City states are the most common type of major settlement

And uh, we only encounter ruins across the entire game

[split mortar]

The only place worse then where we are is the continent that kills you

And even then hardmode it become debatable

And it’s also a pain to travel long distances since iirc we canonically only travel a small part of the continent and unless you’re late hardmode it’s a pain in sreas

[dusk laurel]

Smth smth volcano land basically

[split mortar]

Yeah the land that kills you

[dusk laurel]

No food, you die from lava, much more heat, etc.

[sinful adder]

"the continent that kills you" what

[split mortar]

There’s a continent that rivals hardmode in difficulty to live

iirc

[dusk laurel]

Cei revealed that the only place on the planet that's on par with how fucked up the Heartlands are is this lava land place

[raven terrace]

So basically we're unlucky enough to live in the most dangerous part of Terraria.

Nice we let people move in whether it's for our own gain or not.

[split mortar]

Yeah

[dusk laurel]

Yeah

[dusk laurel]

I hope you get eviscerated.

[split mortar]

Whar

[raven terrace]

You both owe me a soda.

[split mortar]

No

[light linden]

bottomless water bucket:

[dusk laurel]

How dare you type 'yeah' one milisecond before me

[split mortar]

Maybe it just draws from the ocean

[split mortar]

Ohhhh

[light linden]

and

[dusk laurel]

That's not how that works

[split mortar]

[dusk laurel]

[raven terrace]

Well that's depressing to know. Good thing we got frigging strong so fast.

[split mortar]

We dunno the landmass to ocean ratio

[raven terrace]

Come to think of it, was killing the WoF bad in the long run?

[dusk laurel]

Yeah

Releases stronger monsters and the like

[split mortar]

Eh it’s not all that strong it would have broken not long away

[sinful adder]

It would have escaped eventually, according to Cei I think

[split mortar]

Plus

Your terrarian can just clean it up

[sinful adder]

Also we can for some reason just clean up godly essence manually. Where does it go? Who knows

[raven terrace]

It's all up to the Terrarian. : D

[sinful adder]

Purification powder and the clentaminator

I wonder if there's other corruption outside the playable area

[raven terrace]

Xeroc and co would appreciate us cleaning the world of evil.

[split mortar]

Far as we know it’s just xeroc

[sinful adder]

There's no co

[raven terrace]

The NPC's-

[split mortar]

Ah

[sinful adder]

We don't actually know what Xeroc wants, we can only deduce that they don't want to interfere with anything on terraria, only with things outside of terraria that might threaten it

[split mortar]

Yeah they would aswell

[raven terrace]

Then I guess it's good (or bad...very bad) that we came along.

[dusk laurel]

Xeroc's kept a relatively low profile

Since he fucked off from the planet a long time ago

[split mortar]

relatively
Understatement of the century

[dusk laurel]

Killing you

[sinful adder]

Only a handful of people know he even exists

[dusk laurel]

Taking your kidney and liver

[split mortar]

I don’t have those

[dusk laurel]

Of course you don't

[split mortar]

Checkmate vanilla Minecraft

[dusk laurel]

.

I'm stealing your eyes

[pliant ruin]

xerocs power

isnt just bc he trained

eh has the most powerful auric soul

and was already powerful as a mortal

[raven terrace]

Once again, it's funny to think the Terrarian goes from fighting EoC to going blow for blow with the Exo Mechs and Calamitas in less than a week potentially.

Yharim doesn't stand a chance.

[pliant ruin]

there could easily b alot of gods who trained just as much as xeroc that were weaker

[raven terrace]

Hello cheese person!

[pliant ruin]

hi user

i am chees

[split mortar]

Popcorns OC fights yharim ore boss so yeah week is not the lowest

[dusk laurel]

Yk, now that I'm thinking about it

The snippet of the Pristine Fury tooltip we got the other day