lore-discussion

[dusk laurel]

pHMoose

[wheat walrus]

still a mod said that was fine to i think melon :/

1233poopcore pHMoose Moddin

[spring helm]

So

Conjuration

How does that work in calamity

[wheat walrus]

wait hwat's chtath

[spring helm]

You know

When a mage waves their hand and an object shows up

[untold oracle]

The ancient language of the dwarves

[wheat walrus]

bro it's been a year since someone said that word in this server

[dusk laurel]

😭

[wheat walrus]

conjuration whatever

[spring helm]

Conjure yourself some women

[hoary berry]

no

[wheat walrus]

alright so

using 60kg as our standard for human

[untold oracle]

oh no

[dusk laurel]

Dear lord

[eager bluff]

whats that in freedom units i dont speak commie

[wheat walrus]

that would require 1300 megatons of tnt, or 1,3 gigatons Large Mountain Level

[wheat walrus]

shut the fuck up american

:/

[eager bluff]

ok powerscaler

[wheat walrus]

better than american

[untold oracle]

Bro has memorised this shit at this point 😭

[dusk laurel]

John powerscaler

[wheat walrus]

lmao

[light linden]

[eager bluff]

ok powerscaler

[wheat walrus]

the result I quickly fact-checked on my own self-created calculator app but the tiering I'm quite certain of

[wheat walrus]

at least I don't powerscale myself (full power, armed) against schools :/

[eager bluff]

i also dont

[wheat walrus]

sure freedom person

yall prolly hate drunk crashers AND drunk drivers :/

[eager bluff]

i hate children but you know what i hate more
thats right the consequences of my actions

[spring helm]

Oh right I forgot Omni and I calc’d Calamitas making her arena a while ago

[wheat walrus]

just face them 1v1

[spring helm]

I think it scales to city level or something

[eager bluff]

thus i shall not take action

[spring helm]

I’ll go back and check

[wheat walrus]

bro cant even scale past human level when armed and full power with bloodlust 😭

[eager bluff]

not like i need to

[wheat walrus]

/j but keep in mind I'm outerhouse level at full power

therefore I outscale you

[eager bluff]

outhouse level 😭

[untold oracle]

Was it 2d or 3d box

[spring helm]

Both

[wheat walrus]

the tier after that is green level

[spring helm]

Oh I mean

[eager bluff]

weed

[wheat walrus]

bro that is NOT city level

[spring helm]

Man I don’t remember

[wheat walrus]

that's Small Country Level

[untold oracle]

[spring helm]

Oh

The 2d is 1600 megatons

[wheat walrus]

2,7 million megatons = 2,7 teratons = small country level, slightly less than half the standard value for country level which is an explosion with a Near-Total Fatalities range as big as the average country's surface area

[spring helm]

So there’s that

[wheat walrus]

1,6 gigatons, so Large Mountain Level

[spring helm]

Seems consistent with Calamitas’ Ilmeris Incineration

[wheat walrus]

blows you up anyways

[spring helm]

[eager bluff]

@wheat walrus bombs

[dusk laurel]

[untold oracle]

You just said you won’t take action

[eager bluff]

correct

[untold oracle]

Fraud

[eager bluff]

bombs are a physical object not an action

[wheat walrus]

didn't you hate commies

[spring helm]

@manic coral I desire a list organizing the calamity metals in order of lightest to heaviest

Pretty please with a cherry on top🥺

[manic coral]

no i am putting my foot down now

i am busy

[spring helm]

Oh

[manic coral]

[spring helm]

Ok

[manic coral]

sorry actual lore stuff takes priority atm

[wheat walrus]

holy fuck bro treating cal writing like the shopping list 😭

[spring helm]

Lmao

[spring helm]

Yeah fair enough

[gritty kraken]

I think Providence might not be a good person

[manic coral]

im currently discussing the very important thing of

uh

i

[wheat walrus]

corium

[eager bluff]

i

[manic coral]

well you see

[spring helm]

Cei we are the peasants here you can just tell us to bugger off if you’re doing something important

[wheat walrus]

no i dont think i am

[eager bluff]

she literally did

[spring helm]

Sisyphus prime

[eager bluff]

doobie

[wheat walrus]

poopcore gaslighting his way into absolute power

waiting to see the arc where poopcore takes over calamity mod and fabsol company

[manic coral]

about making place names from the continent yharim cames from based of be based on portuguese (i like naming schemes for places in simmialr envrionments, like the undersworld cities names having a hint of spanish in them)

because

hasnt bene used yet

making yahrim as close to brazilian as possible in-universe would be really funny

[eager bluff]

rebecca hair boom gif

[spring helm]

What the fuck Yharim’s back to being the jungle tyrant

[wheat walrus]

see you can't send that, the government took our rights

[eager bluff]

i wouldnt send it anyways

saying the words is funnier than posting the gif

[dusk laurel]

[glacial rampart]

cei actual question i have

[wheat walrus]

that's an emote silly

[glacial rampart]

is Yharim from the continent we play on

[manic coral]

no

[glacial rampart]

nvm i just

read

sorry

hair exploding gif

[manic coral]

[wheat walrus]

wasn't yharim's origin stuff gonna be left vague

[manic coral]

yes

[spring helm]

Cei will make the lore and never share it, therefore leaving it vague

[wheat walrus]

ig jus saying he's not from the main continent we play on is still vague

[manic coral]

but a continent of origin is still vague

like

if i told you

"yeah im from the united states"

that doesnt tell you jack shit about my personality or what my past is like

[eager bluff]

damn... trapped in statistics.......

[glacial rampart]

thers like 10 states in the united stats

you could never know where i am

and you never will

[wheat walrus]

chicago city because that name is funny in italian plus crime rates iirc, we gangsta on discordia fr

[untold oracle]

Omni hairsplosion

[spring helm]

You were born at a very young age, left unable to communicate with naught but your tears. For the first few months of your life, you couldn’t even crawl, let alone walk.

[wheat walrus]

[dusk laurel]

Would you rather be in Lazio or Apulia

[spring helm]

That’s what I can infer

[wheat walrus]

is texas azafure

or is it california

[untold oracle]

Wtf who told you this

[spring helm]

My history teacher

[eager bluff]

wrong

[untold oracle]

Azafure is London.

[wheat walrus]

I mean in terms of temperature dumbass london is rain

[spring helm]

English Calamitas

[wheat walrus]

rain world

[wheat walrus]

holy fuck

[spring helm]

I imagine the Underworld does not get much precipitation

[glacial rampart]

though it was 13 years ago you were given life it is only today you are given a name etc etc

[wheat walrus]

calamity forcing us to spare the british arsonist but forcing us to kill kfc is fucking insane

cancelling calamity bro

[eager bluff]

well that depends
cali and texas are fucking massive
but if its like hottest place in said state then its cali

[dusk laurel]

KFC 😭

[spring helm]

He’s alive, it’s okay

[wheat walrus]

yharon is not kfc he's yhfc

kfc is dragonfolly

[manic coral]

but yeah where yharim is from is literally never mentioned even slightly atm

[wheat walrus]

nvm it's yhfd

[wheat walrus]

birmingham

[dusk laurel]

Nah, really

[wheat walrus]

wait no we established that hell is english I think

recco

[untold oracle]

Yharim is from Sweden I think

[spring helm]

My dumbass read that as Yharim Fried Dhicken

[wheat walrus]

yhentucky fried dragon

[dusk laurel]

Of all places, Birmingham

[eager bluff]

yhentucky fried dhicken

[wheat walrus]

he's from napoli

[spring helm]

Where love is king

[eager bluff]

yhentucky yhied yhicken

[glacial rampart]

if yharim was from sardinia would he eat the maggot cheese

[untold oracle]

Yhatrocious

[wheat walrus]

yharim is the average geolier listener

[spring helm]

Now that I think about it, we never actually came up with an answer for the conjuration question, it just devolved into powerscaling

[dusk laurel]

Yharim should be from London, he slices people like how Londonites slice their fellow citizens

[wheat walrus]

that's the answer

powerscaling

[spring helm]

Well alright then

[wheat walrus]

no he's napoli

we established yharim isn't azafurian therefore can't be london

napoli just makes sense bro hear me out

[dusk laurel]

Go on

[untold oracle]

Wait yharim isn’t azafurian
My perfect headcanon utterly shattered :(

[dusk laurel]

What a calamity

[wheat walrus]

yharim è un napoletano tifa il napoli

[spring helm]

“Permafrost, how does conjuration work exactly? Does it create matter from mana directly or does it pull matter out of the environment and assemble what you want?”

“If you take Calamitas’ arena as to be made of a sulphur-based material such as gypsum, the average amount of energy required to create it, according to Einstein’s famous equation e=mc^2, would be around small country level.”

[torpid needle]

😭

[wheat walrus]

questo è canonico lo dice permafrost quando gli chiedi che squadra tifa il yharim

[wheat walrus]

yep

that's it

[torpid needle]

eating an entire power grid just to summon her

[untold oracle]

Pizza

[wheat walrus]

pizza margherita e magari un po' di pasta al sugo di pomodorino va'

[dusk laurel]

Oh god

[wheat walrus]

posso avere anche una coca

anyways

[dusk laurel]

Are you from Neapolis

[wheat walrus]

no che stai a dire

[spring helm]

“I don’t get it Permafrost, that doesn’t answer the mechanics of the spell, just the energy requirements.”

“Now, looking at the incineration of Ilmeris, one must take into account the amount of time the feat required. Commonly, the unit for used to measure power is the Watt. Considering that the volume of water displaced during the three months that-“

[wheat walrus]

viva il genoa 🗣️ fanculo la samp 🔥

[wheat walrus]

[untold oracle]

Is it really three months

[wheat walrus]

we don't know

[spring helm]

I made it up

[spring helm]

Send the cal scaling document

[wheat walrus]

bro that shit is ancient

[dusk laurel]

[wheat walrus]

shit from the hadean era

[dusk laurel]

That's crazy

[wheat walrus]

here my last calc on it

didn't link the dev statements I was referring to there though

[light linden]

what have I come back to

[dusk laurel]

La powerscaling

Omni monster hunter

[wheat walrus]

viva il grifone del genoa 🗣️

[light linden]

is that french?

[dusk laurel]

So you're Genoese

[dusk laurel]

No

[wheat walrus]

sto per ammazzare qualcuno

[dusk laurel]

Right next door, but not French

[light linden]

italian?

[dusk laurel]

Yep

[wheat walrus]

fanculo la samp 🗣️ tanto sampiardarena è un quartiere dimmerda

[spring helm]

I got no second language

Hola

[manic coral]

one factor you do seem to be missing is time

unless i'm blind

[wheat walrus]

I was calculating the full result silliform...

[gritty kraken]

I thought scal is universal level because moonlord is moon level and providence is star level and

[spring helm]

Well we are missing how long it took

[wheat walrus]

for now I didn't do any time thing because we don't have official stuff right now

[spring helm]

So that’s not something you can calc

[dusk laurel]

💥

[wheat walrus]

that I know of...........

[spring helm]

Unless…?

[wheat walrus]

🥹

[manic coral]

There's no entirely solid agree dupon amount of time, but I've always imagined it taking about between a few days and week to properly finish.

[wheat walrus]

I did leave the note about Calamitas' feat being an overtime feat in the main "compilation" message I got

[untold oracle]

I mean it reads right there, moon lord

The question is that would moon lord beat fovos

[light linden]

I always thought it was a matter of hours

[wheat walrus]

lmao can't even click the standard calc links... L I'm afraid

except the first one it seems

[spring helm]

Ok a week it is

[wheat walrus]

oh yea because it was a standard vsbw calc

[light linden]

issue with it being a week

why wouldn't they just run away in that time frame

[manic coral]

at bare minimum if omni tries to calc this

it'll help me decide

[manic coral]

i mean. some did. but also it wasn't jsut calmaitas

incinerator troops as well minorly assisting

[gritty kraken]

Also polterghast might be moon level too but I might be wrong

[wheat walrus]

well usually with time feats we just draw an average of energy value divided by seconds (or minutes, usually seconds though but still)

[manic coral]

wait was that original statement not a joke

[gritty kraken]

what

[dusk laurel]

[wheat walrus]

there's still to consider that SCal isn't just constantly aiming the big fire for weeks straight nonstop, so this value isn't entirely accurate and is most likely a low end

[dusk laurel]

Idfk

[manic coral]

like obviosuly the scal universal thing was a joke yes

[wheat walrus]

oofy2 is a silly guy last I've seen

[manic coral]

but the other two i assumed were also jokes

[wheat walrus]

moon level was for giant clam

[hoary berry]

hardmode giant clam is a planet buster

[wheat walrus]

hardmode giant clam specifically because it's stronger than wof that contains eclipses btw t4rust

[wheat walrus]

shut up phmoose

[hoary berry]

shut up wires

[wheat walrus]

womni

[dusk laurel]

Nuclear Terror is outerversal

[hoary berry]

fake wireless individual

[wheat walrus]

yep

[spring helm]

Idk if my math is wrong but I got 13.5 megawatts on the low end for Calamitas incinerating the sunken sea

If she was going 1 week nonstop

[light linden]

question

[gritty kraken]

they were unironically my original thought on calamity powerscaling because I thought providence is a sun goddess
Also I believed astrum deus star level too

[light linden]

it ever explained how storm weaver is in our world?

[manic coral]

i mean. astrum deus is star level, yes. calamity star level.

[gritty kraken]

fairenough

[manic coral]

the same way. yes, radahn from elden ring is star level. elden ring star level.

which in both cases are substainsially and massively less impressive

[wheat walrus]

oh yea btw the moon level giant clam thing from the vsbattles oc wiki was modified by some guy who was sharing stuff from that one document I definitely am forgetting to update.........

[light linden]

I need to play elden ring

[wheat walrus]

idk when that even happened but it did

[spring helm]

Ok I redid the very basic math of dividing the number of joules by number of seconds and got 5.64e16 watts

[wheat walrus]

anyways what are the timespans we're dealing with

[hoary berry]

searched this number and found a river forecast from the national weather service

[spring helm]

1 week

[wheat walrus]

also now there's small city level signus instead of solar system level signus

[spring helm]

So like 56 thousand nuclear reactors

[manic coral]

byeah my take on powerscaling is that in theory it's very interesting. in practice most of the things people try to claim and say sound like jokes until you realize they're actually serious.

[spring helm]

I find doing the math fun, but outside of that I don’t really take it seriously

[manic coral]

power scaling is ruined by people taking it way too seriously

[wheat walrus]

the average powerscaler doesn't even know how to do it and most people who do tend to be hella toxic

there's some nicer people but still

[dusk laurel]

[manic coral]

omni you're the good one

[hoary berry]

?

[manic coral]

any complaints i make about pwoerscalers dont apply to you

[gritty kraken]

(I don’t like hell Godzilla powerscaling community)

[manic coral]

you're fine

[wheat walrus]

im aware dw

[dusk laurel]

Intrusive thought

[light linden]

Have we gotten any info about what other continents there are?

[wheat walrus]

my comment was more of an agreement

[light linden]

even just a total?

[dusk laurel]

5 iirc

[manic coral]

5 yes

[hoary berry]

?

[manic coral]

names pending but at this point imma just come up with shit since it isnt THAT important

[frigid sage]

Does Yharon have two sons?

Because there are two pets

[spring helm]

North and south heartlands

Bafrica

[manic coral]

not comapred to naming azafure and ilmeris anyways

[light linden]

I wonder if there are any continents similar to Antarctica

[visual kiln]

g

[manic coral]

godzilla scaling seems yeah

[wheat walrus]

i find that most people who are in the powerscaling community either don't know how to scale or are toxic or both, or that the people who do tend to be toxic and the few good guys aren't as loud about their takes, or so I've seen

this leads into the other problem where people tend to criticize not just the community but the idea of scaling as a whole, which I think is another level of misunderstanding, so idk me and a few others I know trying to be in a middle ground is not easy :/

[manic coral]

becuase like

[wheat walrus]

holy fuck...

[manic coral]

it deosnt matter that godzilla is up against

godzilla is contractually obligated to win

like

literally

this is a real thing

[wheat walrus]

godzilla scaling community is horrid

[gritty kraken]

the rock

[wheat walrus]

also yea

[visual kiln]

godzilla stomps everything

[wheat walrus]

if godzilla is in a movie, godzilla either wins or if it dies it's inevitably returning

[frigid sage]

Does Yharon have two sons? There are two pets

[manic coral]

godzilla solos everything because of capitalism

[dusk laurel]

True

[manic coral]

no

[wheat walrus]

nukes did this

[spring helm]

Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson type beat

[manic coral]

one is a donor item

the other is a funny

[gritty kraken]

Didn’t he lose once to King Kong in the old gojira vs kingkong or something

[frigid sage]

Ok donor is not canon?

[light linden]

still hate that

dude ruined black adam

[spring helm]

Yes

[frigid sage]

I see

[visual kiln]

i wanna invent new powerscaling

[wheat walrus]

still, I remember that one time the godzilla scaler guy I mentioned a few times touched MH, I knew their scaling takes were kinda bad but then I got insight from a guy in the godzilla community and it was very bad

[manic coral]

donor items are not even remotely canon

ye

[visual kiln]

godzila is a 1

[spring helm]

Wait Yharon never had any offspring?

Like at all?

[frigid sage]

And the McNuggets are also non-canon

[manic coral]

nope

[spring helm]

Damn

[manic coral]

sorry guys yharon didnt fuck

[gritty kraken]

Was the black diablos continent level there

[spring helm]

More asexual rep?

[manic coral]

i need sleep

[untold oracle]

I would nodiff everyone in it right?

[spring helm]

[dusk laurel]

Yharon's part of the male loneliness epidemic

[manic coral]

shura ishvalda planet level

[wheat walrus]

no but white fatalis was solar system level somehow because that's the gold standard for anything he scales that isn't heisei era godzilla

[frigid sage]

Who are all of the gods left during the playable time?

[visual kiln]

@manic coral what time is it for u

[wheat walrus]

jokes aside but shara ishvalda lowkey goated

[manic coral]

1:48am

but also

[visual kiln]

wtf

[manic coral]

im waiting for food to get done

[light linden]

same

[wheat walrus]

shara ishvalda when it comes to carrying the multi-continent tiering for monhun

[frigid sage]

Who are all of the gods left during the playable time?

[visual kiln]

eats u

[wheat walrus]

that's weak I woke up at 3am or 4am idk

[visual kiln]

nom

[untold oracle]

Are you proud

[wheat walrus]

no im sigma

[untold oracle]

💥

[manic coral]

nobody knows how many are actually left

[spring helm]

Known? Just the ones you fight

[manic coral]

not even me and ima writer

so it depends on how i feel

[dusk laurel]

Even worse

[manic coral]

[gritty kraken]

Providence slime god ravager
and uhhh idk

[wheat walrus]

even better btw

[spring helm]

And Xeroc

Forgot them

[frigid sage]

So the ones you fight being providence, slime god, uh

[visual kiln]

i dont think this will ever be answered

[robust osprey]

shaikidou is there

I think

[untold oracle]

Don’t forget Noxus and Moon Lord (not to be confused with Nameless Fovos)

[robust osprey]

maybe

[dusk laurel]

Shakidou is dead

[spring helm]

Blud is dead

[dusk laurel]

[robust osprey]

[manic coral]

ok def dont shitpost when somebody si genuinely asking about stuff

[spring helm]

Yeah, Ravager doesn’t really count since that’s their resurrected corpse

[manic coral]

this is how misinformation spreads

[robust osprey]

it had a cool name

[manic coral]

[frigid sage]

Noxus controls DoG and the sentinels right?

[spring helm]

The answer is

[manic coral]

entirely unclear

[untold oracle]

Not the sentinels

I think

[visual kiln]

noxoidal is a fish i think

[manic coral]

at least right now

[spring helm]

||idk go ask signus||

[wheat walrus]

base maccao will defeat the concept of misinformation

[spring helm]

In-game, Noxus doesn’t even have a name

[gritty kraken]

Me when Signus is higher than DoG in coolness rank

[spring helm]

Or really exist

There’s just the distortion, the weird animals, the ex-sentinels, DoG, and whatever potential hive mind Draedon theorizes exists

[dusk laurel]

The sentinels aren't sentinels anymore, Signus is independent. Weaver is doing smth, DoG probably works for Noxus

[spring helm]

Yeah that’s why I said ex

[robust osprey]

weaver is eating bird womans

[spring helm]

Easier than saying all three of their names

[gritty kraken]

Ceaseless void being a nether portal that fly

[frigid sage]

The lore changed?

[dusk laurel]

Um, yeah?

[spring helm]

Yeah like 2 years ago

[frigid sage]

Ok

[spring helm]

3?

[frigid sage]

How often does it change

[spring helm]

Back in the day, all the time apparently

[robust osprey]

when the writer feels like changing it

[spring helm]

Not much anymore though since the big rewrite

[frigid sage]

I remember that originally Yharim polluted the sea

That’s pretty much it

[spring helm]

Well Draedon did that, and he worked for Yharim at the time

Okay that’s not entirely accurate

It had been polluted for a long time by that point due to Azafure’s industrialization

[frigid sage]

Yeah Ik

[spring helm]

Draedon then dumped his nuclear waste there

[robust osprey]

capitalism

[spring helm]

So now some slimes have live warheads in them

[frigid sage]

But it was always sulphurous right?

[spring helm]

That’s because of the pollution

[robust osprey]

not before azafure

[frigid sage]

Ok

So it was a normal sea before azafure

[spring helm]

Tbf it’s been sulphurous for so long the average citizen’s great grandparents might still remember it as the Sulphurous Sea

[frigid sage]

And the abyss has always been there too right?

[spring helm]

I guess

There’s no indication that it is artificial

[robust osprey]

I doubt something mined enough to make the whole abyss

[finite garnet]

I'm new what's happening

[spring helm]

Lore discussion

[finite garnet]

👂👂👂

[untold oracle]

Yeah it’s natural

[dusk laurel]

Geologic formation ye

[robust osprey]

it's natural like..irl abyss!! (except we still dont got to that)

[spring helm]

Get a load of this; Draedon made the exo mechs during your playthrough and only finishes them around the same time you call him up to fight

[frigid sage]

Unless of course there was an ancient terrarian that mined out an entire huge chunk of the world to make a big enemy farm

[finite garnet]

@spring helm I actually didn't know that tbh

[robust osprey]

snd it somehow got covered with water

[finite garnet]

I like learning lore tho

[spring helm]

[robust osprey]

theres a whole document pinged in this channel

[dusk laurel]

Epicsauce

[finite garnet]

Oh heck yeah

[robust osprey]

with all the lore items, the draeyap, npcs quotes, and every calamity bestiary entrance

and the draeyap is long as hell

[spring helm]

The Dryad NPC says she’s 500 years old so that gives us an indication of how long ago Silva ascended, assuming the dryads were a result of her becoming a goddess

[robust osprey]

it may be not into cal lore

i think

[spring helm]

Maybe they aren’t and the oldest dryads were around during the draconic era who knows

[robust osprey]

byeah silva is

really old

she is an elemental

she is the life

[dusk laurel]

Silva has been around since life itself has ye

Nature elemental and whatnot

[spring helm]

Both evil biomes canonically exist in Calamity at the same time

[robust osprey]

true but with changed lore

[spring helm]

Meanwhile only one hallow biome arises as a result of Wall of Flesh’s destruction

[robust osprey]

theyre both a bunch of evil god corpses

[spring helm]

So

[robust osprey]

hallow is a bunch of good god corpses

[dusk laurel]

Fym clueless

[robust osprey]

and that implies

there were more evil gods than good gods

[spring helm]

Makes you wonder how bad the age of gods were when the evil gods outnumbered the good gods 2:1

Or perhaps

[robust osprey]

and the evil is always bigger than the hallow if you dont clean it

[manic coral]

There is a saying I see from time to time: "If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all". If I were to take that advice, then I would have nothing to say about the serpent. Fortunately for you, however, I have never been fond of that saying. What is it you wish to know about him?
needs to be rewritten to be a bit les wonky but still

permafrost spitting fire

ironically

[hoary berry]

🗣️ 🔥

[dusk laurel]

Trully

[spring helm]

Yharim killed all the evil gods and their essence became the evil biomes, whereas only some essence of the good gods were sealed in the Wall of Flesh and the rest was consumed by the Devourer of Gods, creating a bias in the data sample

[dusk laurel]

Based Permafrost

[gritty kraken]

You spawn providence there so she gotta be a good person

[robust osprey]

thats some peak lines right here

[robust osprey]

[dusk laurel]

Flaying you rn

[gritty kraken]

Ouench

[spring helm]

If you and the Serpent were to fight, would you lose?

[manic coral]

you know i find it funny how we managed to make night provi make sense

or, well

mostly reb did tbh

[hoary berry]

yharim sabotaging science smh my head

[dusk laurel]

Classic Yharim

[spring helm]

I can’t believe night time Providence becomes a thing because your Terrarian pulls a Goku and gives her a senzu bean (her core back)

[manic coral]

yeah basically

though it moreso worked out via coincidence

[spring helm]

That’s fate

[untold oracle]

Permapilled

[untold oracle]

I can already imagine my dumbass having the core on my hotbar and accidentally using it during the fight

[spring helm]

Léa accidentally drops the core and Providence jumps for it

[hoary berry]

literally me

i forget to change slots before i try to attack and use the core a second time accidentally

[robust osprey]

that would be me

[hoary berry]

not much different to accidentally summoning her at nighttime honestly

[untold oracle]

put the core into a rocket
launch it
providence flies to space
win

[dusk laurel]

True

I forget to check the time a lot

[spring helm]

That’s how Garou beat Sage Centipede in One Punch Man lmao

[dusk laurel]

And then nighttime Provi spawns in

[untold oracle]

That always happens to me with magic mirror

[hoary berry]

i have that issue with conches a lot

and shellphone

but never magic mirror

[spring helm]

I always have them in the bottom of my inventory

[hoary berry]

probably because i never need to use mirror twice, but with the conches i might get sent to the wrong beach due to being on the same side of the world as my goal or land in a bad spot in the underworld, so i press it again
but then with the ocean conch, i might accidentally press it again and be sent back to the wrong beach

[spring helm]

Died 2021, born 2025
Welcome back Sun Providence

[plain yew]

how long did it take for draedon to make the exo mechs

[mighty zenith]

3 fargo seconds

[untold oracle]

Iirc he made them during your journey

So it depends on your terrarian ig

[scenic olive]

Can you fish Anahita and Levi

[stoic gulch]

i mean probably

[untold oracle]

Levi probably

[magic epoch]

your boober only rests on the surface or the wolaters so probably neiyeher since anabits it's at the bottom and levkathsn is like dormsnt proabbly

i read this exclusively in an overly generic american accent

[pliant ruin]

wha

[hoary berry]

i feel like i should be concerned about the health of my brain considering how easy this is to understand

[magic epoch]

it's only simlple mispelling

[mighty zenith]

this is cei-levels of incomprehensible spelling errors

[magic epoch]

i think it's quite comprehensible thank you

[devout grotto]

Oh yeah can someone tell me as much details as to how and when Yharim found Calamitas, besides getting her when she was a teenager (iirc)?

I have more stuff cooking as I come up with my Terrarian's backstory

[pliant ruin]

After azafure got 💥 by the fight beetween cal and brimmy some members of the yharmy brought her to yharim

[mighty zenith]

we know she was found in the rubbles of azafure and brought to yharim

most likely as a witness

[devout grotto]

How many years was that before, say the incineration of Ilmeris?

[mighty zenith]

around a decade i believe

i don't think we have a concrete answer

[devout grotto]

Oh I see I see

[magic epoch]

iirc calamitas is like mid 20's when we come in

[devout grotto]

Wait so when was the incineration? Also a decade before the events of the game?

[pliant ruin]

a few years before the events of the game

[magic epoch]

so not too long probably.....

[mighty zenith]

actually maybe not a decade

[pliant ruin]

idk if it was even a decade ago

given cal is around 26? 27? i forgot

and she left the yharmy while still relatively young, iirc

[hoary berry]

i think stip said it was about 8 years ago

[pliant ruin]

i imagine she left when she was like, anywhere beetween 17 and 20

[mighty zenith]

we dunno how long perma and cal stuck around after the incineration

[hoary berry]

#lore-discussion message

[devout grotto]

Alright, taking note of all of these

Thanks y'all

[pliant ruin]

np

[untold oracle]

In my story Cal was adopted at the age of 8, and Ilmeris happened around 6 years later or smth

Not sure tho does it work in the actual story

[cosmic zenith]

More like half a decade

[untold oracle]

Oh wow I was kinda close then?

[mighty zenith]

yeah i kinda figured

[cosmic zenith]

She was a pre-teen at the the time of Azafure's destruction, and on the late half of her teens during the Incineration

[devout grotto]

Oooo, gotcha

Thanks

[split mortar]

Then was around 18 when leaving?

[cosmic zenith]

She left not long after the Incineration

So same age

[light linden]

Hi stip

[untold oracle]

I really like to think Cal was still in early teens when she left since she probably wouldn’t have developed proper morals yet, especially if suspected to yhapaganda for years

It would make her far more understandable than if she was like 18 or 19

[spring helm]

if i remember the timeline correctly, the incineration of azafure was 15 years before the game starts right

[split mortar]

M

M m m m m m M m m MM

-# ok i just looked at my phone, what the fuck why is there M?!?

[dusk laurel]

?

Are you okay

[split mortar]

For melon gun standards doing pretty well

[snow mountain]

i am never recovering from what ive seen

[dusk laurel]

[untold oracle]

Definitely one of the most bizarre messages I’ve seen in a while

[dusk laurel]

Indeed

[pliant ruin]

come back when you're a little

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

richer

[untold oracle]

But I need that lamp oil

[snow mountain]

never ever get sent screenshots of commission requests

[pliant ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/homura-homura-akemi-akemi-pmmm-puella-magi-madoka-magica-gif-3066186555187795733

[split mortar]

[split mortar]

I plead normal person

[light linden]

y'all think draedon has done any work on medical tech?

[dusk laurel]

Very likely

[cloud ibex]

seems like a thing yharim would want yes

good medical equipment for soldiers out in the field

[untold oracle]

Of course

[digital anchor]

Anyone know who buried the Terminus in the first place?

[indigo glade]

Xeroc.

[digital anchor]

Who are they? I actually don’t know much about them unfortunately :(

[split mortar]

The first god

Strongest being

“Traitor almighty”

[digital anchor]

Are they what started everything?

So what is Yharim’s role?

[indigo glade]

It would be better for you to read the pinned document.

[split mortar]

Yharim hating gods due to bias and yharon starts a world genocide of gods and their followers

Even the good ones

[split mortar]

Technically if we go far enough it’s fovos(Moonlord) since they weakened the dragons to the point that gods arise

[hoary cape]

Dang fovos

[split mortar]

I was just silly

[light linden]

[cyan terrace]

Guys, is there any official whole lore link or website or whatever?
In words "whole lore" i mean not description of items or npc's messages. I mean everything.

[indigo glade]

_ _

[split mortar]

[spare pier]

What you're looking for does not exist

[split mortar]

The lore isn’t complete but the lore doc has everything in game currently

[wheat walrus]

there is no lore...

[spring helm]

rebecca, i got a question for ye

what inspired the night providence thing

[light linden]

Hi Rebecca

[spring helm]

i mean specifically what you did for night providence, with it being changed to activation via giving the core back

[spare pier]

I wasn't inspires by anything to make it, but Goku giving Cell a Senzu made me realize it was a good idea

[spring helm]

that's Providence at 120% right

[spare pier]

Yes, that's always been the thing that I wanted to do with Providence's enrage

It HAD to be 120% of her power

[split mortar]

Idk if it’s the exact numbers but it’s the number used as a demonstration

[indigo glade]

Terrarian, Providence...

Who would be the third?

[spring helm]

she's not gonna be night providence anymore, so what is she gonna be called

[spare pier]

Yeah, it's just a demonstration

[split mortar]

jjk providence

[spare pier]

I like going with Pure Providence

Or Perfect Providence

[indigo glade]

Absolute Providence

[split mortar]

jjk providence

[spring helm]

no we can't do that one, she doesn't absorb the Guardians

[dusk laurel]

I like the sound of Perfect Providence the most

[spring helm]

PP

[dusk laurel]

Trully

[indigo glade]

And I dislike it's acronym.

[dusk laurel]

Deal with it

[split mortar]

The guardians had the power she absorbs though doesn’t she?

[spring helm]

true

[spare pier]

But yeah, my rule was always that Perfect Providence should be beyond her normal power

It's not something she has normally and, while technically she could've have it at any time

[indigo glade]

Could have have it.

[spare pier]

It's better for the Guardians to be as strong as they are right now than her hoarding all the power because there is exactly one situation where she benefits from that power and it's in a 1v1

[spring helm]

Providence started losing and said "I need more POWER" and ate her Guardian's left arm

[glacial rampart]

Super perfect providence..

[spare pier]

Something she avoids because even if she had all that power the outcome of even Provi vs DoG wasn't certain

To not speak of Literally Everyone else

[spring helm]

yeah considering how far apart they are in progression, I'm pretty sure even phase 1 DoG could still do well against Perfect Providence

[spare pier]

I think it's a very even match ngl

But not guaranteed

And any interference would be enough to tip the scales

And there isn't anyone really willing to help her

Also if she really wanted to kill someone, just

Bring the Guardians

[light linden]

reb can I ask a question?

[spare pier]

It's way more effective

Your opponent now must deal with four different people attacking them

[spare pier]

Shoot

[light linden]

Which dev/devs works on character designs?

[spare pier]

I think Providence and the Guardians together would unironically be very problematic for even Yharon to deal with

[split mortar]

And the guardians aren’t weak
They’re VERY strong and have synergy with eachother and providence

[spare pier]

While Perfect Providence could maybe scrape out a victory against DoG

So, yeah Perfect Providence is only better if the Guardians are rendered useless in a fight

[spring helm]

new superboss: Profidence and the Profaned Guardians jump you

[spare pier]

Which happens to be the case

Now we go to Reddit and make a "is she stupid?" joke

[spare pier]

Mango, Lilac and Mihaii

I might be forgetting someone tho

[split mortar]

Isn’t stip drawing vetrasyl and Zeratros

[light linden]

neat ty

[dusk laurel]

Mihaii stuff is private I imagine, character-wise

[spare pier]

There is Nitro but they do Boss design

Which, well can count

[light linden]

oh another thing rebecca

[spare pier]

Yeah but I consider that an exception

Stip doesn't normally do character design

[spare pier]

Hum?

[light linden]

I might've asked this before but what is infected armor plating made of?

[dusk laurel]

Yeah, you did

[light linden]

My guesses are either it's made of the nanomachines itself or metal gathered by the nanomachines

ohp

my bad, sorry

[dusk laurel]

It's fine I think

[split mortar]

I think it was cei you asked

[dusk laurel]

Cei just said she didn't know, the other lore writers might have an opinion on it

[frigid sage]

Who would win in a fight DoG or Yharon

I think DoG would win

[light linden]

which one is higher in progression?

[frigid sage]

Yharon

[light linden]

and which one would charge head first into the flaming tornado?

[frigid sage]

But dog has armor

True

If dog was smart he would win but hes not

[light linden]

ehhh

yharon is also an auric dragon that literally can't die

[frigid sage]

We beat him

He will get reincarnated

[light linden]

and is able to dodge far easier than DoG can

[frigid sage]

Ok but hitting DoG in the armor wouldn’t do much damage

And dog can teleport

[dusk laurel]

Not really

[frigid sage]

They are about equal in durability I think

Because of the armor

[light linden]

you ever hear of the tactic in dnd where you use heat metal on someone's armor to cook them?

that's what would happen to DoG

[frigid sage]

Fair point

[mighty zenith]

i mean

we literally do that

[frigid sage]

Yeah but it barely does damage

They have high defense

[dusk laurel]

We kill it in minutes

[light linden]

Genuinely I think DoG would've turned on yharon already if he was strong enough

[frigid sage]

That is also a good point

[mighty zenith]

technically hours going by terraria time

[dusk laurel]

True

[mighty zenith]

but tbf it takes around the same time as something like signus

[frigid sage]

No?

At least not for melee

[mighty zenith]

like yeah give or take a minute

[light linden]

also iirc

yharon wears armor too

[dusk laurel]

Teratomere does a pretty good job on Signus last time I checked

[frigid sage]

But he does not have as much defense

[light linden]

some bits of auric armor mainly around his chest

[frigid sage]

Ok is this from a gameplay or lore standpoint?

[wheat walrus]

DoG a fraud but Yharon being the second strongest dragon in history is automatically even more fraud cause auric dragons are frauds

[frigid sage]

The argument as a whole

[frigid sage]

What do you mean he’s a fraud

[light linden]

only in lore for now, his sprite hasn't been updated

[frigid sage]

Ok

[light linden]

also I just wanna mention

[dusk laurel]

Smth smth DoG rework in a couple years

[light linden]

DoG would suffer auric rejection

[wheat walrus]

DoG cant eat Xeroc :/

[mighty zenith]

bbut... he's called devourer of gods...

[light linden]

He's a pawn for Noxus

[mighty zenith]

he can eat gods therefore he's omnipotent

[dusk laurel]

I fully endorse this statement

[wheat walrus]

But dragons are the ultimate frauds they attacked my fucking squid Fovos the Moongoat he aint do nun wrong

[mighty zenith]

dragons forbid alien squids have hobbies

[pliant ruin]

ml is the anti fraud

[light linden]

even if he doesn't get charred by the fire, he will absolutely get hurt if he tries to bite the auric armor

[pliant ruin]

ml is him

[glacial rampart]

ouugghhu im red eye barry ouuhguuh im red eye barry

[wheat walrus]

Fr and the dragons jus racist to squids

[mighty zenith]

get some cleareye

[light linden]

it'd be like watching a snake bite a taser

[tight creek]

Taking a dragons soul makes you a god

Then why tf

Did Yahron not give his soul to Yahrim when he was 1 hp?

[pliant ruin]

Because that would fundamentally go against Yharim's morals

[tight creek]

nah

[mighty zenith]

fym nah

[pliant ruin]

Yharim would rather die than to ever consume Yharon's soul

[mighty zenith]

yharim spent a literal century protecting yharon and avenging the dragons

[pliant ruin]

In fact he's willing to die to continue the crusade, thats his entire character arc ingame rn

He's willing to be killed by you if it means you prove to be a worthy sucessor

Consuming yharon's soul, and thus actually permanently killing yharon, would be as out of character as you could get for yharim

[tight creek]

He would get a powerup and kill terrarian for butchering Yahron. He is only against it cuz he wants Yahron to be aliv. If he dying, he prolly would give his soul to Yharim

[pliant ruin]

That is not how it works

First of all he's

really not that angry about yharon dying

because yharon is immortal

he knows he'll come back

[mighty zenith]

yharon can only die forever if his soul is absorbed

[pliant ruin]

if anything he's just sad because it means he won't get to see him again (He knows he's gonna die to the player's hands before Yharon rebirths)

[tight creek]

Ahem

Yahron Soul fragments gentlemen

[pliant ruin]

Yes

[tight creek]

how many he got?

[pliant ruin]

We know

[mighty zenith]

fragments

[pliant ruin]

Those are tiny fragments of his soul

[mighty zenith]

tiny lil pieces

[pliant ruin]

The soul itself is intact

[mighty zenith]

its like crumbs

[tight creek]

Yes

[dusk laurel]

Itty bitty parts

[tight creek]

Used to make Auric tesla armour

So Yharim did use parts of his soul

[dusk laurel]

No

[pliant ruin]

no

[mighty zenith]

no

[pliant ruin]

because yharim is attuned to yharon

[mighty zenith]

we specifically use fragments because we're not attuned

[pliant ruin]

^

[mighty zenith]

we trick auric ore into thinking we're attuned

[dusk laurel]

The soul fragments counter the auric rejection, making them usable by the player

Yharim is attuned, meaning he doesn't need to bypass it

[pliant ruin]

Yharim's entire ideology is that dragons r the purest noblest holiest etc beings and that gods deserve death due to killing them and by killing yharon he would be just as bad as them in his ey es

[mighty zenith]

so the difference between our auric and yharim's auric (besides all the upgrades draedon gave him) is that our auric can't reject things

[pliant ruin]

not to mention the fact yharon is his best friend

[tight creek]

Higher than Bees?

[pliant ruin]

yharim is a evil bastard but he's still a human, he wouldn't just kill his best friend

[dusk laurel]

Yes

[tight creek]

damn

guess he wouldnt then

[pliant ruin]

i love character flanderization

[mighty zenith]

[tight creek]

I hate characters

[pliant ruin]

yharim loves bees and papyrus hates puns and loves spaghetti

[mighty zenith]

flander like the touhou

[tight creek]

I want fight not backstory

[pliant ruin]

wtf flander

[dusk laurel]

Holy shoit is that Flandre

[pliant ruin]

bait used to be beli -

is that flandre scarlet

[tight creek]

Calamitas is a Touhou accurate character

[mighty zenith]

i am scarlet devils

[tight creek]

I am Chirno

Cauze I'm cool

[dusk laurel]

You are NOT Remilia

[mighty zenith]

cirno? from hit 2011 video game Undertale 2: Revenge of the Robots?

[dusk laurel]

Ture

[light linden]

???

[mighty zenith]

||that is an actual game btw and cirno is actually in it||

[tight creek]

fuck undertale all my friends love Nutdealer featuring Risk and Cahara from Fear and Hunger

[dusk laurel]

Anyways uh lore discussion

Yharim is a dragon glazer, there's no denying that

[light linden]

y'all think azafure had a bunch of ACs?

[pliant ruin]

acs??

arnmor classe/??

[dusk laurel]

Like, air conditioners?

[pliant ruin]

OH

LMAO

[dusk laurel]

[mighty zenith]

aquatic courge

[pliant ruin]

depends entirely on if draedon invented air conditioners 😭

[tight creek]

HP Lovecrafts' third biggest fear after Immigrants and Squids

[light linden]

we know they had armor

I meant AC as in stuff to make the air cold

[mighty zenith]

[frozen zodiac]

does silva's blessing keep you at 1 hp in lore or is it a very brief revival

[dusk laurel]

^

[mighty zenith]

idk but i got a really cool visual of how silva revive works

[frozen zodiac]

because i was thinking just now if yharim stabbed my terrarian through the chest would they have a death like experience or would they just barely survive

[mighty zenith]

with you getting transported to the abyss at the last second for a moment and staring at silva before returning on the brink of death with a burst of lifeforce

[light linden]

btw

y'all think any of the auric dragons were chinese style dragons?

[dusk laurel]

Yes

[mighty zenith]

probably

i mean there's wyverns

which are dragon off-shoots

so they had to get that look from somewhere

anyway the dragon of fortune was shenron

bye bye chat its 2 am

[dusk laurel]

Bai

[frozen zodiac]

would it be any different when that effect is activated by auric armor or is it still just silva doing everything

[dusk laurel]

👋

[frozen zodiac]

also night

[mighty zenith]

instead of a complete and normal silva it's fucked up and broken apart silva

to show the consequences of auric

(since a guy dressed in auric did that to her

anyway bye for real now

[dusk laurel]

Auric won't be a combo of armors in the future so silva's blessing won't be activated by it eventually

[dusk laurel]

Bye, let the bed bugs bite

[light linden]

btw

Do we know if the corruption/crimson will eventually be able to reclaim some of their original power?

or are they gonna be stuck making things like the hive mind and perforators?

[glacial rampart]

biden blast

[sudden ruin]

💥

[cosmic zenith]

There were Auric Dragons of all sorts

[light linden]

were there any auric dragons that couldn't fly?

ngl

I should try to design some of the dragon concepts I have

[real silo]

Water dragon swims

Air dragon floats

different from flying he just hovers

like vagrants risk of rain

[light linden]

Namely the Dragon of Decay, Tectonics, and Magnetism

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah

[gritty kraken]

I like to think that one would be the gluttony one

[frigid sage]

You need Silva armor to craft Auric Tesla ?

Is that class specific

[real silo]

Yes

Only mage and summoner has to

[eager bluff]

for specifically mage and summoner helmets

with the body pieces its interchangeable with god slayer

and the other heads require god slayer

[cosmic minnow]

Hold up

I remember something about the lines of that our auric that we use isn’t as refined

So technically we are only using a Prototype auric armor while yharim has the full potential ?

Of auric armor I mean

[random mulch]

it moreso has to do with how we obtained the auric and how the armor is made

we just shoved a fragment of a dragon soul into auric which causes it to be usable but not be able to auric reject anything

but yharim is attuned to yharon, so he can use auric freely while it rejects everyone else. his armor also uses exo tech to make him even stronger

[split mortar]

^
Yeah so yharims auric is just as strong but it can reject things

And he has Exo with the auric boosting him more

[fading sun]

Is this rhe

The lore discussion chat

Where people discuss the lord

What no

[hoary berry]

no

[fading sun]

You can't post images anymore

[hoary berry]

this is mcdonald's

[fading sun]

The horror

[dusk laurel]

I don't think so

[fading sun]

Girlboss gaslight gatekeep

[split mortar]

Nor embed

But image loss was worse imo

[devout grotto]

Yeah 🥲

I know it's not too hard but I just like screencapping some ramblings from another server more

[spring helm]

To contain the essence of a slain God is no small thing. It is rather a towering, ghastly construct.
The Wall was lashed together with foul sinew and fouler magics, forming a rudimentary prison of flesh.

[indigo glade]

Yes?

[spring helm]

so was Wall of Flesh the name given to the construct initially or did Yharim just go along with the Terrarian

"That's not what it's called but okay sure, Wall of Flesh"

[indigo glade]

I mean...

It could've just been simply called "The Wall" by those in the project.

[spring helm]

true

[mighty zenith]

"Project Wall"

[brazen timber]

Most of the things I upload related to cal are in Calart

[untold oracle]

How big is wof even

Does it really span the entire damn underworld

[green bay]

Ngl if everyone in calamity lived as a potato for a month they would be less aggressive

[indigo glade]

What?

[frigid sage]

Rain world

[untold oracle]

‼️

[dusk laurel]

[tall delta]

what if deerclops is a draconic offshot

[pliant ruin]

what if i killed you

[dusk laurel]

[light linden]

[rotund shore]

What if I send a nuclear missile to your location

[deft valve]

exactly, i am

[dusk laurel]

[frozen zodiac]

if the bestiary was written by an in universe character i imagine their reaction to deerclops would be like the porygon line in legends arceus where laventon is completely confused by modern technology but instead its just "what the fuck is this thing it makes no sense where did it come from"

[green bay]

Like immagine just being a spud in the ground absorbing nutrients, that changes you

[untold bluff]

Kind of disappointed we can't send images here anymore

I was gonna show references for my prediction of the distortion

I might just talk about it in patreon lore discussion then

But like

Since the devs have been saying stuff like "you won't expect this design for the distortion" and stuff like that, I came up with an idea that's radically different from the current predictions of the distortion

Since it's called the distortion, I think that's the main gimmick of the dimension.

It's a distortion of known reality, an incomprehensible realm of imitations of the familiar

Would include stuff like liminal spaces

[hoary cape]

I can post it for you if you want

[untold bluff]

Would be appreciated

I sent the image in DMs

[hoary cape]

Did you edit a person on to that image lol

[untold bluff]

No

[hoary cape]

I am guessing it's refering to the way the field just rises up

[untold bluff]

Lemme give context

It's a scene from an awesome movie called interstellar

Cooper space station

It's a giant space station orbiting Saturn that rotates to form an artificial gravity

[hoary cape]

Oh right interstellar I forgot about that

[untold bluff]

And everyone there sits on the inside of a rotating cylinder shape

So the ground curves like that

Which is really damn cool

Anyways yeah

Distortion could be having many

Landscapes and parts that make no sense

And feel off

Like those creepy liminal images and stuff

How does that sound

Obviously since it is another dimension, it wouldn't follow the laws or physics as strictly as our world does

Once again, the word 'distortion' comes to mind

That's my main focus

[frozen zodiac]

its probably a very common and obvious guess but i think it could maybe be like the distortion world from pokemon with all the floating debris and gravity changing on a whim

[untold bluff]

I think that the idea of a bunch of floating islands and stuff is kinda plain and overdone

But gravity anomalies would work really well

Especially with the fact that everything from the distortion is capable of flying and manipulating gravity to an extent

[frozen zodiac]

dog's fight is gonna happen in there eventually right

[dusk laurel]

Phase 2 ye

[untold bluff]

Imagine the uncomfortably long loading time between first and second phase

[frozen zodiac]

i kinda wish there's something in between phase 1 and 2 so its not just the arena changing, maybe like a horde of creatures appearing to try to weaken you, or a quick rematch with copies of the 3 sentinels with a visual change

[light linden]

I hope we get glowing trees and plants in the distortion

and I also hope we get to plant them in our world

[real silo]

Mithrix no way

[dusk laurel]

You used to fight the sentinels between phases 1 and 2

[real silo]

Voidling platforming section would be funny in this game

[dusk laurel]

Doesn't really make sense anymore tho

[real silo]

You have crazy wings and then you suddenly have to do platforming

[dusk laurel]

Since the lore rewrite severed their connections and DoG probably isn't even capable of making copies of anything

[light linden]

just realized

did any city in the heartlands have settled agriculture?

[real silo]

Dog will summone gilded worms just like providence risk of rain

[light linden]

what's risk of rain?