#lore-discussion
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what
Ok so as I thought
what the fuck
it did happen once
he dumped nuclear waste in there
greta vs draedon debate when
Yeh
You are being added to the list
And I wanna eat it
i think i might cry because of that
you should add yourself :/
ask Plaguebringer for some of it
I can't
then ask someone who can
I already have
what has she said?
I ask too much of it
So she didn’t give me last hour
Very sad
I’ll just dump like everything I know about the sulph sea
Thank you :3
I got a question
Yeah?

Is there like bestiary entries in the lore docs
And can you do !wiki to find it
yeah
Of calamity entries yeah
there are some important to lore entries in there
Yeah
I’m guessing trasher is not one of them
I’m describing creatures
It is a nature documentary
Trust
You might do better looking at the wiki and finding the individual enemies bestiary cause the doc might miss less relevant to overall lore entries
The crab vent thing?
Wiki doesn’t show lore doc stuff I think
I love the crab thing
I’m just asking about bestiary entries
I worded it weirdly I’m sorry
Ah ok
flak crab? yeah
Why the sorry ?
I was just going to ask about it
Weird manners ig
Like the name
Is this a Canada moment
Do we know the age of old duke
Over 2000
Nice don’t have to change anything
No, just that it’s one of the oldest things and like only jared is a offshoot that’s older
So it very much can be over 2 thousand to like millions since there’s no upper limit
is there like a B.C and A.C period in calamity?
i mean something that breaks the timeline in half
B.Z A.Z
Yeah, it's not known what it's called yet
There are like 3 calendars iirc
The main one is for when Azafure was founded
Pre historic
Dragon era
Gray period
God era
Crusade
Ah, azafures founding is the start of the calander with numbers
Bioluminescence is for organic beings
Like feesh do sometimes
I think
✅
The sulphuric sea, a once… acceptable living place has many peculiar things about it, but today we will look into the ecosystem, the many animals living there.
The creatures are quite interesting as well as one of the most common creatures there is a crab which has adapted to the fact of the many thermal vents there and tries to mimic them.
They are simple scavengers and in the case of extreme situations may use explosive projectiles and hurls out of it’s shell such as a cannon, hence the name of the weapon made from the body.
Another interesting creature is the trasher which has the mouth to eat most other creatures there whole in one bite but is still a scavenger, eating scraps from the apex predators left overs.
This is an explanation for the name but it is simply too bad for such a good boy.
There are a few apex predators in the sulphuric sea, one of the most distinctive and horrid is the nuclear terror, once being an animal fighting for survival whilst the poison and radiation from the scientists experiments made it into something more… terrifying (get the joke? :D)
It hunts using the radioactive sludge it emits and uses it either for killing it, or slowing it down so it has the chance to bite it and for some peculiar reason, it always bites directly where the brain is!
No matter what.
Another is one of the oldest still living draconic offshoot, of course being the old duke.
Even though it has existed for at least2000 years we do not know how it reproduces nor how it has so many kinds of projectiles it can make as of the difficulty of getting close to it.
One theory is it releasing smoke from small holes in the skin, having a layer of scales over spikes under it or just utilizing the draconic powers it has been gifted by.
It hunts by lurking under the water whilst using the microscopic bioluminescent algae attracted to mucus that forms on the eyes.
If you see two glowing objects following you whilst taking a swim, RUN.
Wall of text has appeared
I became too focused on writing about the cool animals there brooo
cleanest water in the Seine
Ye
Oh seine is the river in P*ris
Macarone did not swim in it smh
fr*nce
don't mention fr*nch people
That f-word shan’t be used
Br*tish?
u br*tish?
mhm
Br*tish and Fr#nch people after fighting for 1000 years
scandalous
they didn't call it the one-hundred-years war for nothing
The Br*tish got really close to conquering Fr#nce a couple of times
what abt 1066
Sweden did it almost once (not really)
other way round too
Ermm actually ☝️🤓 it should be called the 116 years war since it lasted that long
Explode
that was normandy
it doesn't count
decendants of vikings
Normandy was like half Fr*nch half viking ye
rollo
Phew That was a close one (not really)
Are you a Thames head or Seine head
the existence of calamitias implies the existence of the UK in cal
which in turn implies the existence of france
The Swench would go too far
Time for Yharim to invade it
how does the existence of calamitas imply the existence of the UK
She is br*tish
so clearly azafure is the UK and the sulpherous sea is france
Azafure is basically the UK
with the abyss being the channel
the br*tish accent just comes from Azafure
accurate to real life
So in Calamity br*tish people canonically are breathing hot smoke and growing horns
almost like in real life
Draedon polluting the Sulphurous Sea is kinda like the Roman invasion of Gaul
holy shit draedon is canonically italian...
mamma mia
Gianni clearly is Draedon
First the Terrarian now this?
no vabbe quale regione
silva is asterix
cal lore if it was good
who is the obelix?
jared
it implies the existence of ceasar
how about underwater silva theme park
for all kinds of Jareds
no thats the rest of hell
En*land
Bro wtf is happening here
the lore
do you think the silva theme park uses eco friendly wood veneers?
reality can be whatever we want
this implies that silva has an aunt that she can borrow screws from
better
she uses her own remains
true eco friendliness
truly the eco friend
it's lion king all again
so nice of draedon to provide the galvanised square steel
is there like any not mentally insane person in lore that didn't get imprisoned for one reason or another
Anahita maybe?
She doesn't seem mentally insane
Just wants to expand her territory
defining a being with no human morals as Insane or Not Insane is lowkey impossible 
Idk i wouldn't call most of the characters insane
Permafrost, Statis, Amidias and Braelor all seem fairly normal
Calamitas did some terrible things in her childhood but nowadays she's a fairly normal person
Draedon.... well, he's in the same boat as elementals, no moral compass, hard to judge
true Draedon just chill
permafrost and amidias trapped skill issue
status and braelor yeah
calamitas idk wouldn't call her normal
He won't be trapped in the Giant Clam anymore
Hypothesis: Silva is different from other elementals and has a sense of morals to some extent, as she works with humans and has one as her champion. This could be the case if the life dragon's soul was not subsumed completely due to a perfect ascension. If this is true, it would also mean that part of Zeratros remains in Xeroc as well.
She in general does seem different from the other elementals
Though yeah I can see this making sense
Yharim would implode if it was the case xeroc is literally part Zeratros
Fire
I think it would be fitting
True
Is terra fart kart significant to calamity lore?
i will say, something i am trying to do with talking to NPCs is if they're covering something you can hear about like 2-3 or more other places, they'll just be like "hey are you are you familier with this concept?" and you can just be like "yeah" and they'll be like "ok i'll just get to the point i want to make about said concept then"
like with the permafrsot dialogue i shwoed on christmas i mentioned there being an option to him asking if you're familier with how usign magic actually works and just being able to go "i am, yes" and that just entirely skips the explaination of how magic works
and just gets right to the point
along with the option i did add of just
an alternative to just saying "no" being like
"i wouldn't mind a refresher on it"
that gives the same dialouge and just exists for if like
you dont want a character who does use magic to just seem stupid if you want the explaination

it'd be really funny for him to comment on if you said "no" with a magic weapon in-hand though
but i dunno how that'd be done
actually i'm gonna check
i want to see if it'd be reasonable to make him do that
it's one line of code
i'm adding it
i added it
wrote the line
“What do you mean you don’t know how magic works? What have you been doing this whole time then?”
Anyone know the relationship between Supreme Calamitas and Calamitas Clone?
We know that Calamitas knows about her clone, and asking that at some point after Draedon “finished” the clone, Calamitas stole the clone from his lab and somehow engraved her brimstone magic into it, tho Draedon doesn’t know how
permafrost dialogue update
done for tonight
unless i'm not we'll see how i'm feeling
depends on if i cna sleep or not
Aww we can't read it
Silva theme park
Silva theme park is a funny idea
Maybe they'd make the attractions out of live plants, like giant bonsai?
i will say i enjoy having characters tell stories about yharim
like permafrost mentioning how in the twilight years of the Crusade most of the army that was out in the field and not just occupying places was almsot kind of unessesary and jsut essentially swempt up anything Yharim missed on whatever rampage he single-handedly went on, tearing through entirely armies and gods alone
and then the army would just some in after and clean up all the things yharim either missed or didnt find worth his time
and how after every training session, after every spar with yharon, after every time he returned from the front lines, it's like he was always a little bit stronger every time
he was clearly swole
no
for one simple reason
no rollarcoasters
the lack of them is dissapointing to him
yharim is truly a theme park enthusiast
i just like trying to properly describe how kinda absurdly powerful yharim is
from an in-universe standpoint
i want the player to be convinced they they aren't just fighting the leader of some big army when going to fight yharim, but they're they're genuinely fighting a living legend
in 2085
the release year of yharim
Isn’t that a little early
he'll release within the next spirit mod major content update
went from “powerful warrior commanding an army of like-minded soldiers” to “one-man army trailed by a group of like-minded janitors” over the course of the crusade
also his husband john mutant
YEAH
exactly
yharimtors
i wanna sell how stupidly strong he got
tbf yharim isn't as bad as the terrarian, as I said yesterday
Best way would probably be some NPC or whisper describe one of his feats of strenght.
if it were in a whisper i feel like it could run the risk of sounding like "yeah dude i totally trounced this one god. didn't even break a sweat. definitely didn't almost die. nuh uh" unless that story was corroborated by another character
obviously, that would just depend on how he tells the story, but still
Oh wait. Most calamity players think he is like universal level
anyway this is real and true
and on how each individual player already views yharim, which you can't necessarily control but i suppose that risk applies to literally any source of information that the player knows might be biased
do you think his armour has built-in abs or are they real?
Both
there is something that massively tips the evil scale in favour of the terrarian
its very obvious
my horrible fashion sense
You clearly want to say it so just say it
clearly makes my characters worse than yharim morally in every conceivable way
okay but what if i'm an awesome landlord who gives free housing and awesome living standards
and the tax collector is the real evil one in the town
nuh uh
the taxes are canon, its in the lore
the terrarian is part of several landlord associations

yharim clearly isnt
have you actually asked him?
for some reason
maybe the gods only wanted him to rule initially because he had experience... as a landlord
you see because auric souls represent concepts this msut mean killing an auric draogn was the equivelent of destroying a concept and thus beign reality bender
because
hes too busy being cool and massacring entire populations unfortunately
Ye thats really weird
incredible logic
And because Yharim killed GoSP he is clearly above the concept of space
just like how a pyromancer being able to throw a fireball means they can control all fire in the world with ease
worst concept this mod has ever had
Nu uh
i really like the idea of auric soul domains getting more and more tainted by dragon/human tendencies and thus becoming more specific due to their biases, attachments, etc
having a god of gravity completely contradicts this
god of invading personal space
Not gravity
dragon of zero-gravity environments...
i cant really say too much sicne it wasnt even remotely my idea
Maeby they just wanted to be left alone of smthing so now they can bend space
so i also cant really comment on why i dont think it's a huge issue
but that ties into greed, which is slime gods whole thing if i recall correctly
Harmony
fair, its not even been incorporated into tooltips ingame yet
but it irks me nonetheless
but as the person who did come up with this, i na say that afiak it still fits with my ideas involve it mostly fine
it still fits the pattern of something less specific warping into somethign more specific due to the person's personality and desires
equilibrium is also slime god's whole deal
how so?
fair
not gonna talk about stuff i didnt make
i feel as though that is disrespectful without express permission
byeah it is something i always keep in mind when mentioning a new diety
though given
not much more to be mentioned atm, really
at least not that i have planned
hmm
its gotta have something to do with influence
the moon has influence over the tides after all
Back in the Yharim strenght thingy. It could be like somebody says something about Lets say god of mountains who is as strong as a mountain. Them they tell that Yharim punched them so hard that they split in two.
i am so glad that permafrost is able to have a line about you telling him you dont know about how magic works while holding a magic weapon
i live for dialogue in games that acknowedges the stupid little things you do
statis asks if you know who slime god is while you're using statigel gear...
”Hey perma, could you explain how this magic works. I dont really know anything about it, but i would like to know”
-The strongest sorcerer in all of Terraria
statis' able-to-show-up condition will literally be beating Slime God so i mean

given
why did yharim get calamitas to boil the sunken sea when he could've just used a comically large magnifying glass
not as a town npc
he doesn't care to join any of you settlements or whatever
my current idea is that you cna find him randomly in the world like skeleton merchant or he'll show up in one of your towns at night like the travelling merchant does
except
well
again
at night

i feel like this should have been obvious but it didn't at all occur to me
it'd be annoying though if hes important
i had it in my head that he'd be able to show up earlier for some reason
though i have a similar idea with petrichor's hotspring dudes
eh there'll be a way to get him to show up
later into the game, at least, when he DOES become more important
braelor signal
ok this is a good idea
its like a gigantic projector
It would just need Draedon to not say like: Oh yeah that mountain guy. Yeah that dude was almost dead already when they fought also really weak at that point, but they did almost beat Yharim. I comend them for that.
statis finds what appears to be braelor on his gaydar and comes to investigate
braelor is gps tracked
it'd be like a whistle or signal or smth he gives you
dog behaviour
like how acid rain is traditionally unlocked after you beat EoC, but if you don't do that it'll still be unlocked after WoF anyway? (just obviously different triggers and actual lore relevance)
you just shout braelor is here and he'll come running
Dude shows up for the first time at your town post provi and goes "I heard you're strong please kill this evil mf"
Yes
i think signus would be part of the rotation, along with statis, goozma, and nuclear slime or whatever its called, as well as astrum aureus
goodnight
goozma is canon in our hearts :(
What the fuck is a dream blunt rotation
but goozma would be kicked out for rolling the worst blunt ever seen on the face of terraria (no longer canon)
king slime would also be there
Any steak just tastes like meat
this is why goozma hasn't existed
oh yeah, pontiff and andromeda are also part of this rotation
we might as well get the entirety of the scrapped boss ideas here
thats where they've been
this explains why the slime god is so weak compared to other gods actually
hes always utterly stoned
irrecoverable even

yharon's sons will also be there too
because they have been fired from canon and always were
ive solved cal lore, you can't get much more peak than this
yes
From a 1-100, how much does the player affect the calamity world?
It’s hard to make a number, but you do make a big effect. Killing Yharim and making the world know that he has been defeated has a huge sociological impact for example
From gameplay?
Atleast 85 imo
from lore
I’d say both game- and lorewise somewhat around 70–80
Wait, we killed Yharim? since when
He will be the final boss
Depending on how things go with noxus being added
Potentially 100 imo
Are we actually ever gonna kill the stronger people, Xeroc, Noxus, et al
Xeroc is just above us, we can’t kill them if added
Noxus if added will die thanks to our fight
Rock
Though they aren’t garunteed to be added as boss fights in the game
What about the rock?
its just funny how after beating every boss he just gives rock (i know it has a significant value considering it was the first thing he created and he still has it to this day, ofc before he gave it to us)
Xeroc never created the rock that’s been changed
It’s now a sentimental thing carved from the aerie
NOO
Ok good
kk
The lore got almost completely rewrote like near 2 years ago if you didn’t know
It got new writers
Damn, is nameless deity canon?
considering he pulls out a glock 17, good
Now it is its thing
No
Or we’ll will be soon idk
Addons are not canon
^
Vanillin shouldn’t you change your pfp now that your no longer evil vanillin
No
It’s just a Touhou character probably
It is a discolored version of their last pfp
Does any of the Calamity bosses/people know the player is in a whole another power of existence
My pfp before kept being confused as sonic
The terrarians lore and stuff is up to you
You can be weaker or stronger it’s all up to you
Except they suck at naming
L
So I'm not going back to it
Stabs you
Like they don’t have any whole another power but ig draedon and yharim as they see them as something
Atleast it ain’t like tsukarin from addon chat where I keep mistaking their hatsune miku pfp for bugs bunny

Providence sees us as a threat
We will put him in the fruit salad
Yharon attacks us cause they think we will kill yharim
Ive never seen, but what does Calamitas think after we beat her? (Post-Calamitas type)
She attacks us cause she thinks we’re going to follow yharims path and cause more harm for the world
At the end of the fight she thinks we’re aren’t going to be yharim 2
We will be yharim negative
Are you Yharim pilled or Permafrost pilled
And then after that, what happens
I am yharim (Fargos souls) pilled
She enters our town and stuff and offers enchanting and exhuming, she is also one of the few bosses where refighting them is canon
Though a dialogue system is going to be added for calamity npcs in the next major update and I hear if your too rude to her right after the fight she just fucks off for a few days iirc so it might actually be somewhat in your control ingame? Idk
She’s chill with you. If you’re nice to her, she’s nice to you, and if you’re rude, she’s gonna swear at you
What actually is exhuming in lore sense
I think it’s just her cursing and filling the stuff you give her with her magic
Bro my goofy ahh always thinks of Player X Calamitas
don't ever show your face here again
Why tf do you think of that
Gitout!!!!
Calamitas is asexual and aromantic :/
i always end up in the wrong side of calamity 
no wait it can't because john fargo mutant is his husband i forgot the lore
Wha
Compared to others (not the terrarian cuz bro way too op), how strong actually are the exo mechs
The Exo Mechs combined are similar in strength to Calamitas
They’re comparable to Calamitas seeing as they’re equal to her in progression
Meaning they’re above every god but xeroc
So 3=1?
And the void fella but i don’t remember if he’s a god
Nah jared is stronger then scal or exos
Jared is not a god
Yeah it takes all four mechs to rival scal
I meant like gods
Oh silva
Theyre weaker since shakidou is weaker then scal and exos
Ye
Not the first, not the last
Such is life in the Calamity community
isnt she the dryad leader or smth
My goofy ahh always think of using chicken cannon on ares
She is the first dryad, she is the elemental of nature and she is the goddess of life
Is she connected to the axe of regrowth
What if, Braelor's axe is an Axe of Regrowth
Braelor has Axe of Regrowth but on giga steroids
Idk
She did make braelors axe so I wouldn’t be surprised she has connections to other plant items and axes
Imagine if Silva just fights with a normal axe
What is auric tesla ore
It’s some kind of like solidified auric energy or something we don’t know for absolute sure
But we do know it is related to auric dragons and stuff
... Okay but I always mix it up with Squidward, and I've never even watched Spongebob before
Pfft
Bro, wtf is brimstone magic, i can hear someone explain what it is for 1 hour and i won't get bored, thats how clueless i am
Hell magic basically
evil fire
alright, ill come back here after i see Brimstone elemental and calamitas fight
Ohk
#lore-discussion message There's a bit of explanation here
?
No 
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i never knew about this
Why does cei call permafrost permafreaky
probably because i was just waking up at the time
Is cei a permafreak
Funni
True…
Brimstone magic is a magic that burns very very hot and can make lava as hot as the irl surface of the sun minimum just by existing in it
And it seems to have connections with necromancy
Oh and it being burnt or using the magic can just effect your mental state and scals flames are so hot it can burn even the soul and ash leftover iirc
So the terrarian can survive the surface of the sun
Yes
How tf do powerscalers scale that
That means anything that does more damage than it is stronger than the sun
So scal is at least high planetary level by this
Alright, calamitas is a glorified Touhou player
No…
killing u
So island level, the tier she already was in
Yeah that’s accurate to where she actually is in power scale I think
I’m a skeleton no can do
That’s xeroc level
xeroc is only continental?!
so xeroc the god of everything is soloed by krillin in sayian saga
Calamity got quite nerfed in powerscaling
😨
Xeroc is just the god of sunlight (and likely the sun)
didnt xeroc create the universe or did that lore get changed
i dont think that was ever the case
Huh
Primordial light is sunlight
Didn’t know that
xeroc used to be a fusion of several light gods back in old lore
it was
i dont remember what the fuck light and dark gods were though
At least we got a reason to not go outside 💯
it wasn't expanded on at all
the sun is a deadly laser
I love that video
Touhou..,
Gaster 
is the "magic" in calamity they mention literally just mage class
Is that wing gaster the royal scientist
mana is a thing that exists
Guys who wins Jungle Tyrant Yharim vs. Nameless Xeroc
goozma balls, deltaw
magic is connected to stars in the way that stars are made of mana
Terrarian solos both
Xeroc deity cuz jungle yharim tyrant is weak
Wrong
Sulphuric acid!
Or your doing the thing
The image
I wan the image
I NEED IT
Cheat mod:
you dont get the image
Outside of lore
if you need the image then you can't have it
I want the image
Even with those nameless doesn’t die, still just a test
sigmage
Is malachite some sort of godly power or smth, cuz i remember it easily going against DOG despite being pre-ml
reverie
malachite is like
only decent now
haii
also saying godly power isnt very accurate considering
techically everything that is stronger than slime god has godly power

Yeh
Wha
The “the terrarians lore is up to you!!”
I know
Just wondering what they would do
the terrarian's lore is up to the government
LORE QUESTION:
What are Exo mechs made out of and how tf did draedon add those weapons

Probably make you into a fruit salad
:)
Those weird what
evil gun
But miracle prisms and other metals
weapons*
Iirc they are made out of some cosmilite alloy that’s powered by exo prisms
wdym "other metals"
exo plating is enhanced cosmilite basically
I still make use of smelted Cosmilite to this day in numerous applications, and I utilize the raw material as a metallurgical component of various alloys such as the Exo Mechanical Trio's plating.
Exo mechs use exo plating which is an alloy primarily made of cosmilite
Exo prisms for energy supply since the prisms can’t run out
And a neural network similiar to draedons own synthetic brain
also prototype miracle matter
accidentally
Does this mean Draedon also has an oil company in distortion
Don’t think draedon intended for unstable miracle matter to happen
american draedon
Probably
all intended
kablooey
Is draedon like physically strong
all intended by the calamitous overseers
No miracle matter
most he does is use a pulse rifle
Imagine him just standing up from his chair at the end of the Exo fight and punching you to death
Miracle matter is what we make
We stabilised it
Draedon didn’t know it existed till the Exo fight since ares adapted and started using it mid fight
Miracle matter is our thing
the recon body literally crumbles to any damage source—i think it is hardcoded for anything to do a shit ton of damage to it? that might be bullshit idr—but his 'real' body, if he has one, could be made to be extremely strong
How calamitous…
So technically, if draedon discovered it before us, how massively would it impact the exo mechs
So ares is best of them
Hell yeah
Another win for skelli gang
Would be stronger than scal probably
Uh I don’t know
Probably a decent bit since it can be used easier then exo prisms iirc
Draedon will take 56x damage from any sources and will cause all damage to turn into critical strikes. If the damage taken is somehow not enough to "kill" him, damage is increased to a range varying from 32,100 to 33,500 damage.
silly
Though the overall power the mechs would get wouldn’t be too much higher
surviving the sun's surface is not an insane feat :/
Yeah I could do it
And it is
The earth wouldn’t
i could sense the ":/" from a mile away
lmao
Questions:
How tf did draedon discover and create exo prisms, cosmilite
Are flames of annihilation just calamitas rage?
shadowspec isn't canon
there is no summoning ritual other than maybe ping but beyond that I am rng and will come whenever
darn
oh fr?
Exo prisms from sea prisms and cosmilite just exists in distortion
mhm
To be fair it was Rusty and draedon probably used a scrap to make it
sea prism upgraded beyond belief?
"The Ilmeran crystals that you know as "Sea Prisms" are self-illuminating and provide a weak electric charge indefinitely, even when tapped by circuitry. Etching the crystals with conduction pathways at the molecular level and providing an initial energy impulse, not unlike igniting a newborn star, transforms them into a facsimile of the Exo Prisms you are familiar with."
Basically
Yeah this
sea prisms generate energy indefinitely and exo prisms are just extremely enhanced sea prisms
so cosmilite just exists?
Yes
Yeah
But from a different dimension
Ye
How old is draedon
~660
Wasn’t it a liquid?
i think that's not confirmed?
like it might be a liquid in the future but currently its up in the air
My friend said that vegapunk outscales draedon (bro hasnt heard of calamity)
Yeah I find it super confusing like ppl keep saying it’s a liquid or smth but I never saw the actual statement
Is it just someone’s headcanon that stuck around lol
No.
🐌
bro might be a bit late
Tip: if you ever want to find a developer statement, always look at Stipulate Venus or Triangle's messages first, they're pretty much the main people who reveal stuff.
take triangle's words with a grain of salt tho
Then cei or Rebecca
they're not a writer unlike stip, reb and cei
so for lore stuff they're not that reliable
(aka the whole frost dragon thing)
Yea
Frost Dragon is canon, but not the whole creating the Tundra and the curse
yea thats what i meant
YuH
Im playing DND as draedon, give me some cool lore to help me win
@ ein
@ Seeker of Knowledge
what was dnd about again
dungeons and dragons (im playing in a starwars dnd)
The player who wins is the person who forces the GM to make the most rules over the most absurd things.
Whuh
How did draedon end up there 😭
colonizer
Draedons only goal is science and has not ability to understand morality
So they will see helping people and dropping active nukes in the sulphurous sea as actions and not moral stuff
Wait, drop abyss lore
uhhuh
sound right
i forgot how utterly based draedon is
(only good part of cal lore)
That one draedon employee watching his daughter who he took with him to his workplace vaporize
he reminds me of bondrewd funnily enough, except without nearly as much child experimentation
The abyss is a natural geological formation
It has had silva dropped in twice and holds the strongest dragon alive in it (primordial wyrm)
It is mostly untouched place since almost no one can go down there and withstand the water pressure or the extreme life forms that kill and hunt
Things feeding off silva let them grow a bit bigger
I don’t rember rest
Massive sinkhole in the ocean that actually was given excellent conditions for megafauna thanks to Silva (back when she was an elemental)
Azafure’s industry caused toxic fumes to rise to the surface, forming the sulphurous sea. This was made even worse by Draedon nuclear dumping.
Basically the diverse ecosystem if the region is thanks to Silva
WYRM IS A DRAGON?!!??
They’re a draconic offshoot and offshoots are dragons just not auric dragons
they're not auric dragons but yes
They both are first-generation offshoots iirc
ohh, auric dragons are Yharon and dragonfolly right?
not folly
or the entire father dynamic actually
Folly is an offshoot
Nah yharon is last auric dragon
Folly is also a offshoot
they got killed in the war right?
The auric dragons died long before the crusade (the war yharim caused) or are you in about something else
All auric dragons except Yharon were killed in the fovos invasion and in the aftermath of the bite of 1087
1037
Wait, lore drop about dragons, i thought the "dragon war" happend
perhaps cal clone fits this
?
Dragons were hunted, but there wasn't a war
Which strong mfs hunted them
The people who became gods by absorbing the dragons' souls
and the people who died trying
Ohh, mb, i was thinking of total calamity
Yharim as a burnt skeleton in his exo auric suit going to dragon aerie: “I’m might come back idk”
Since a lot of dragons died in the Fovos invasion I assume a lot of ppl actually didn’t have to fight a dragon but rather to just find an auric soul laying around
The closest thing to a dragon war was when fovos (Moonlord) attacked them and nearly killed ever single dragon
moreover, is cal a literal clone or someone engineered to house cal's entire brimstone/necromancy schtick?
A literal clone
no way, just like the boss AI
Hence why we know it’s not something she got from her bloodline
mmmm I'll use this to make astrology a big field, thanks for the worldbuilding idea
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is martian invasion canon-
Yes.
ah ok i understand it now
id imagine creatures like the martians would be pretty rare since most life prob gets wiped out by astral infection before it can reach interstellar stage
peak calamity lore
That can't be right, astrum deus usually stops the astral infection, and also the astral infection usually can't infect anything sentient
wdym the astral infection cant infect anything sentient
half the astral infection creatures are just reg enemies but infected
Maybe sapient was the correct word
yh
Anything intelligent is typically immune. Astrum deus is a rare exception apparently, there were likely unusual circumstances that led to it getting infected
it prob only because it ate such large amounts
seems more animalistic than anything
Deus also is likely a whole species, meaning that the infection isn't really much of an issue
it is
There was a statement from a writer somewhere that said that something weird has to have happened in order for it to get infected
But I can't remember the details
Draedon in Draetalk mentions that if Deus, if it was only one unique animal rather than a whole species, the Astral Infection would be more of a problem and common sight, but things haven't really gotten out of hand
the astrum deus that we fight in game is one of many and has been weakened by the astral infection influence
Then how exactly would the infection pose an issue to emerging sapient species
astral infection has a bad habit of eating planets
is it old lore?
i wonder why alien stuff is kinda uncommon
Also, it was stated by a dev that astral infection dies off over time, instead of spreading, by consolidating into a new star
only other thing i could think of being annoying to interstellar stuff is noxus i guess
just kinda strange that all the stuff in calamity takes place in one place
Not strange at all really
All the interesting stuff humans know about in real life takes place on one planet
Playing on the 2nd [iirc it would be the worst after WoF has been defeated too] worst place on the planet doesn't exactly help get us around to other areas either
what do we even know about noxus since hes a thing in calamity right?
or he kinda just there with no purpose
It's basically the head of the Distortion [even tho it's equal to Signus on the hierarchy]
Possible head of a hivemind in the Distortion too, uses DoG to get god essence
Created Ceaseless Void a while ago during the Draconic Era
all i remember abt distortion is that all the creatures there are really old and have a sorta hivemind
also yk dog and signus are there aswell
Wdym by old
just the things living there are old like old age
Draedon says that the Distortion and its inorganic matter is most likely to be older than life in our world, not necessarily the living beings there
All inorganic material in the Distortion is extraordinarily old, with radiometric dating failing on all 116 samples collected. Given the formations that are present, it is a safe assumption that most matter in the Distortion has existed for far longer than life on this world.
If taken literally, radiometric dating failing can also mean that the thing has any age at all, and just never had even trace radioactive components
The way i see it there's probably other beings on a similar level to Noxus out in the distortion taht we'll juts likely never get to meet
wouldn't be surprised if Noxus wasn't even the strongest
Yeah I can see that being the case
If the power level of distortion beings that aren't subordinate to others can vary from signus who is a mid? (i forgot what its placement will be after rework) post ml boss toa post yharim superboss with noxus i wouldnt be surprised if there were some that were even higher than that
there prob is but i doubt u could fight them
Iirc Reb or Cei said Signus would be like pre-DoG
id imagine past noxus they would become more like abstract and stuff
Yeah you won't
at most they would be an enviormental threat
I think it's fine for there to be other more powerful beings, it'd just be a stupid move imo if noxus was specifically controlled/subordinate to smth else that you never get to fight because then you'd have a unfinished narrative
just something u supposed to avoid instead of kill
it always goes deeper
has anyone seen the old concept art for subnautica dead zone?
The way I see it is
Noxus is among the strongest, there could be stronger like a xeroc of the distortion and yes there is
But the distortion is a entire different dimension they’re probably on different planets or planet clusters or galaxies idk just like how fovos is from far away
something like that would be so cool
Noxus has the highest raw might on that planet of distortion
void from risk of rain
easy

having some small part of a bigger being dragging u away if u try to go out of bounds in distortion would be so cool
more conceptual being u cant rlly kill, more a part of the enviorment
Goose headcanons noxus as a sentient world soul iirc
he's just a little guy
with how yharim shits himself at the mere existence of CV, i dont think noxus is anything naturally occuring in the distortion
if noxus i gonna actually be added i hope they do something similar to wrath of the gods noxus
Why
especially the upcoming noxus
WotG's Noxus is getting replaced anyway
lame
It used old assets from Goozma and some fandom stuff
it sucks
i hope it's a direct ripoff of patient zero from mod of redemption
😊
btw you should play mod of redemption
I think you're insane
no i swear i am speaking the truth
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Also, Avatar of Emptiness is not Noxus
WotG has been making an effort to distance itself from Calamity lore in general, probably a big factor in why Nameless isn't basically the same as old lore Xeroc even tho people still call it Xeroc for some reason but that's not the point
I also think Noxus being like an egg or portal is just kinda boring
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i cant wait for people to claim that cal vaguely copied WotG


I can't believe Calamity copied Xeroc's name from Wrath of the Gods!
Can’t believe calamity copied from Minecraft’s parts of updates
I've seen that before
Excuse me what
I have seen it before lmao
not surprising
I wonder if vetrasyl and storm weaver ever fought
Likely not
Would Storm Weaver have even been alive back then?
Nah it’s like 880 odd years ago
Probably less
Was that ever stated somewhere?
Storm Weaver would have to be like 800 years+ old
Old duke is like 2K minimum and they aren’t auric so things can just live long
I think Vetrasyl was killed long before Storm Weaver entered Terraria
Draconic blood sure helps
For longevity of old duke
Well that's if terrarian dragons have similar life spans to those of mythological dragons in other settings
Old duke was alive before the dragons perished I wonder if he tried to assist in the fight against fovos
Old duke and jared were born not long after auric souls stopped being handed out
So they’re almost as old as some auric dragons
What even is the lore of the storm weaver? 450 hours of calamity and I still don’t know
I honestly don't really know lol it's a wyrm from the distortion
That somehow has storm powers
They’re a super predator from the distortion who looks like a smaller devourer of gods yet is older then devourer and are possibly disconnected from the distortion hivemind
They reside in chrysadia seemingly eating the ruins of the place
They can also just cause storms
It’s the civilisation that the sky islands were part of
Ah
It got targeted by fovos first so yeah not much remains
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I do wonder why fovos decided to attack terraria of all places
There are other planets
I mean
They lack a sun I’m pretty sure
godlike dragons that control life, death, and electricity can't be hard to miss
So terraria is a soecilw planet
I think the thing that would be harder to miss is the near planet sized ball of energy beighter then any star blasting every direction with whatever primordial light is
Is fovos sapient or is it just like a destructive alien that just saw a planet full of life and wanted to end it
We don’t know
We will know in sso part 1!
You are moon lord after all
I think fovos is sapient but saw the sun and dragons and world soul and wanted stuff from it
We know it could counter the auric rebirth cycle so I think it def planned for the auric souls in some way
Though maybe it could be a predator to world souls adapted to counter the worlds abilities and what it can grant others ? Idk not too sure those are just ideas I have
Or well maybe both could work at the same time idk
Is there an explanation for the pillars being part of the moon lord release stuff
We don’t know
Though some theorise it’s Moonlords armies
That is kinda what I think.
And each pillar represents a conquered planet
Idk how much I gel so the theory though I can see the logic
I didn't think it would make sense for them to be part of containing moon lord
Use aliens to keep an alien in a prison hmmm
The dragons used the torn off flesh of Moonlord and repurposed it to the pillars, shrimple 
The pillars are just made out of his legs
Fovos’ legs capable of tearing apart reality
Got it
Fovos happens in 1037
Aight thanks
Np!
Oh hey, Stip can you confirm when the Aerie will be unlocked, I forgot if it was said yet
Definitely, yeah
We know they're related and will have more about Fovos in the next update
are the pillars allied or against moon lord
Aligned most likely
would be funny if it happened in 1087
anyway, if Storm Weaver realy did live at the same time as Vetrasyl, woudn't it be know to definately be older than DoG
especially if they fought
that would likely be in some records or Draedon would have at least known
the fact that it took an x-ray to determine that Weaver is older than DoG implies to me that they showed up at around the same time
Oooo, thanks for the info :O
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Sometimes I typo while doing comedic typo
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How strong were the auric dragons
The average auric dragon was as strong as plantera according to a dev statement
They ranged from probably slime god level to yharim level though the average one was eidolon wyrm level
So the king of the dragons was just yharim level?
Like dragon of light
And if not then Jared is stronger
Aw man :((
Jared is stronger than yharim in my heart
jared would likely win due if in the abyss though
Yharim is the strongest mortal on terraria
all i'm hearing is that jared is immortal
Jared is a god because he took my heart ❤️
nuh uh
I could be an auric dragon. You wouldn't know
i was replying to melon gun
bad connection smh
