lore-discussion

[manic coral]

that'd probably fall under jsut asking him more about himself

before the Crusade happened

[untold oracle]

Yeah prolly

[light linden]

actually

would he have anything to say about the frost dragon?

[manic coral]

the what

[light linden]

I heard there was a frost dragon that was related to the fishrons

[manic coral]

well i sure ain't and everything that goes into the lore pretty much has to go past me first so

[untold oracle]

I think that’s just a concept so far

[light linden]

oh

sorry then

[trim edge]

if the tundra is unnatural and not made by permafrost it's probably caused by a dragon or god right

[manic coral]

not nessesarily

i mean refer to some of the bestiary for shit there

[mighty zenith]

iirc it was triangle wanting to repurpose the mega mammoth dragon

[untold oracle]

Hey how about other continents? Since he’s old he must’ve been in quite a few places

[manic coral]

ice claspers were a big cuase of it's spread

[mighty zenith]

as old duke's ancestor

[light linden]

I imagine he'll have dialogue related to cryonic's creation right?

[manic coral]

why is it any time i hear of people saying some random shit about lore i've never heard of it's always involving something triangle said some time.

this has happened interally in the dev team for but i guess now it's happening externally and he's just talking about some stuff that's essentially just his ideas he assumes are going to be canon without checking with most writers first and jsut going on ahead and talking abotu it publically without proper confirmation.

i don't like having to say this, espeically since i am on pretty good terms with the dude and that is one my annoyance with him, but please take anything Triangle says about the lore with a grain of salt.

[mighty zenith]

thats fair, you should probably talk bout it with him

[trim edge]

ice claspers might have been created by a dragon or god
bcuz i feel like specifically mentioning how the tundra was created would be disconnected from everything else otherwise

[manic coral]

personally, my stance on the idea is that it does sound neat but i'd prefer the tundra not be related not any dragon or god

[trim edge]

oh

[manic coral]

i feel like we're kinda capped at the amount of stuff that can be related to dragons

without it feeling like too much

and as for a god, maybe, but like

[untold oracle]

One thing I’m curious about is what are the copper to platinum coins? Are they like some universal currency or?

[mighty zenith]

people already complain that the lore is all about dragons, we dont have to make it worse

[light linden]

sorry if I'm repeating questions btw, my memory is really really bad

[manic coral]

which it's not, but with all that's publically out

it's a train of thought i don't really BLAME people for having

espeically with SSO taking so long resulting in no actual lore drops recently

because so much stuff relies on it

[trim edge]

why can't we forge platinum bars into platinum coins, are we stupid

[manic coral]

anywyas to answer other questions

[manic coral]

yes, he's been to three of the other four

[trim edge]

how big is the planet of terraria

[manic coral]

big enough to have five continents

though the heartlands (the nickname for where the game takes place) is one of the two smaller ones

and then there's three bigger ones

[trim edge]

did anything important (to the crusade ig, we know little about anything before) happen on the other continents

[untold oracle]

Do states trade via money or by other means?

[untold oracle]

Oh this is all good to know

[manic coral]

if nothing happened, there wouldn't be any point of mentioning them in the story

[trim edge]

is there a lore reason why we're stuck on one continent

[manic coral]

not nessesarily stuck there, but also, it's kind of a hard place to get to in the first place. becuase you'd have to find somebody willing to take you there.

[trim edge]

no one wants to go there because it's the continent most fucked by the crusade?

[manic coral]

and seeing as the recent collapse of the crusade happened and where the game takes place being kind of a hellhole even compared to everywhere else right now

[trim edge]

ah

[manic coral]

you wont exactly find anybody too eager to take you or bring you back

[trim edge]

just build a line of dirt between continents to keep track

[manic coral]

there's only one place in the world that's more fucked up than the heartlands

ok maybe two

but the second is debatable

[untold oracle]

I’d like to know…

Is it secret

[manic coral]

and after wall of flesh

it does absolutely 100% go into 2nd place

[trim edge]

what about the underworld

can't we go through there

then dig up under another continent

[manic coral]

yeah, you could theoretically treavel between continents that way

and people have

but it's not exactly safe and it's very slow

[trim edge]

lead the wof to the other fucked up place to make sure the heartlands stays in second place

[manic coral]

it is in 2nd place still anyways, probably

as said

pre-HM, one or two palces more fucked up than it

WoF, only really 1

debatably

[trim edge]

hmm

[untold oracle]

What makes that place so awful? Is it just crusade

[manic coral]

doesnt help that one of the shores is fishron territory and the other is literally acidic

[manic coral]

nop, not even the crusade proper went there

[dusk laurel]

Crazy

[untold oracle]

Ooh, interesting

is it just australia

[trim edge]

endgame terrarian can kill one in a second so

[manic coral]

exactly details are thing si'm sitll debating but like

it's moreos a matter of

[trim edge]

wait
wouldn't draedon know a lot about other continents
why not ask him

[mighty zenith]

endgame terrarian just doesnt really have any reason to go to the other continents anyway

[manic coral]

you can't really take an army through lava flood plains or mountains that only two people at most can go across MAYBE some sorta path you can find

[trim edge]

they want lore

[manic coral]

and are also so high you it's hard to

uh

breathe

[mighty zenith]

literally everything they could need is in reach of the heartlands at the very least

[manic coral]

[untold oracle]

Is that some underworld on surface

[untold oracle]

Uhh you can make one
Maybe they were brainwashed by Yharim to continue the crusade
Maybe they are curious
Maybe they want to fix the world and help the other continents too

[trim edge]

also i want to see what draedon can find out about yharon soul fragments
there's no way he isn't stealing some from us for research

[manic coral]

the mountains are cold as shit. what isn't mountaisn as hot as shit. hardly any plants grow so no food form them. only source of meat is the occasional very fucked up monster with perhaps some edible meat.

so uh

[split mortar]

Since people can handle being right next to surface of the sun hot magma how fucking hellish is that place…

[manic coral]

not a great palce to practically take an army

[dusk laurel]

Assuming endgame Terrarian has a reason to, but even then, people being at the endgame Terrarian's strength is not a common sight

[manic coral]

oh no the lava isnt that hot

there is an in-universe expalination but im not sharing

it's unironically important

[split mortar]

I’m talking about magma at the crags

[trim edge]

talking about the terrarian going there
we don't necessarily need anyone else

[manic coral]

i mean the magma in the crags isnt hotter

jsut more deadly because

brimstone

[manic coral]

people at end of pre-hm levels of strength are very uncommon

fishrons are basically the apex of sea monsters more or less

[spring helm]

waaaaa

[trim edge]

which bosses can only be found in the heartlands

[manic coral]

which yeah talking about shit more freely since

[untold oracle]

bwaa

Hai popcorn

[spring helm]

hello

[manic coral]

chriastmas

[dusk laurel]

Old man

[spring helm]

im sick

[manic coral]

might as well

[manic coral]

indeed

[split mortar]

"Though a variety of answers are given when one asks adventurers about dangerous creatures, few aside from sailors will mention the small yet mighty Mantis Shrimp. Their strikes are so swift that the energy generated from them heats the water to temperatures rivaling the magma of Azafure."

From mantis shrimp bestiary

Thought this alluded to the magma being surface of sun hot

[spring helm]

that's crazy i thought he was like 200

[untold oracle]

Haha I had a theory we’ll get bigger lore drops as a gift

[manic coral]

no jsut as hot as the magma of azafure

i mean

ok i will be a little lenient with what i talk about again

it's not like the sun and thus primordial light is like, THAT hot. like, hot, yeah, but not THAT hot.

yeha it'll burn you if you touch it but it wont instantly kill you

it's less magma and moreos a collection of energy

that orbits arounds the planet

[dusk laurel]

Holy shit geocentric theory

[manic coral]

yeah, there are other planets out there, but they don't really have something like that

[split mortar]

Calamity cosmology is lot different to irl so not surprised

[manic coral]

it is essentially a big ball of energy rotating around the world

[split mortar]

I wonder if permafrost can control a small bit of primordial light

[manic coral]

nah

primordial light is specifically the sun's light, not all light

it is an important distinction

[trim edge]

is primordial light directly related to the world soul

[manic coral]

light just gives visibility. primordial light does a lot more.

[split mortar]

I k is its silly and special

Hence why I wondered since if any mortal guy was to be able to it would be permafrost

[untold oracle]

Does this mean regular light can also be a domain

[manic coral]

both this and it rotating around the planet are things i want to be clear in SSO

since both of these are very imporant distinctions from out own sun irl

[untold oracle]

Does Terraria have multiple moons btw considering how there are multiple of them in the night sky

That can be

[manic coral]

that you sorta need to understand to grasp things like why the surface world was so different during the draconic era

and people's speculation on stuff from before even that and some theories on how life in the world came about

or where said giant fucking ball of energy in the sky came from

[dusk laurel]

[spring helm]

Obviously it came from Xeroc

He travelled back in time and gave the planet the sun

Thus creating a bootstrap paradox

[dusk laurel]

The sun was Zeratros' arts and crafts project, Xeroc just limited how much food it got

[manic coral]

the real xeroc was the friends we made along the way

[split mortar]

Xerox vs the power of friendship when

Fuck

Xeroc

Not Xerox

Why has autocorrect happened

[untold oracle]

Cei who is Xerox

[wheat walrus]

xanax

[light linden]

cei can I ask a question?

[manic coral]

sup

[light linden]

I imagine the godseeker knights used the magic guns that draedon designed but were there any that also used more traditional types of magic?

[manic coral]

definitly

if a solider showed competency with normal magic, they could use it

[untold oracle]

What’s the lore reason for enemies dropping literally money

[cosmic zenith]

I'm surprised you weren't aware of it, though yes, it hasn't reached a point where we are settling on it and to my knowledge it's always been shared under that disclaimer ("it's just an idea")

[manic coral]

big pockets

[untold bluff]

Wtf

They removed images

You can't send images???

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah, that's something we've been quite wary of recently

[untold oracle]

Like is it canon or just gameplay

[untold oracle]

We won’t go offtopic at least :)

[manic coral]

just gameplay

[untold oracle]

Oh

[wheat walrus]

Alr taking into consideration what is said

Melon Gun points out the Mantis Shrimp entry that compares its fists to Azafurian Magma
Mantis Shrimp fist temperature (irl it's 4800C) is often times compared to the sun's surface temperature (irl it's 5500C)
Cei points out that the sun in Calamity isn't as hot as Azafurian Magma and the Calamity Mantis Shrimp fist

This is either:
A: Mantis Shrimp, due to being bigger in Calamity, creates even greater temperatures, therefore making the comparison of temperature between irl sun and primordial sun still valid to an extent

B: sun in Calamity shrimply isn't as hot as real life sun, and the mantis shrimp's fist temperature is unchanged

Imo, latter seems more likely

[untold bluff]

Still sucks 😭

[manic coral]

fair enough ig

[wheat walrus]

But regardless of the answer, I'm kinda interested

[manic coral]

anyways the popular vote was to hear permafrsot talk about magic so im currently writing that and will share when done

[wheat walrus]

Possible matherial...

[wheat walrus]

Nice nice

[dusk laurel]

Yummers

[split mortar]

Oh yeah true

I just read it as me not conveying myself properly but yeah either interpretation can lead to cool ideas

[cosmic zenith]

We'll bring it up to you next time though, sorry!

[manic coral]

yeah jsut espeically since

i'm writing permafrost rn

slightly important information for me to know if there's any proper tundra lore in-debate or decided

god this dialogue tree is gonan be monsterous

[dusk laurel]

Good luck

[split mortar]

-# that’s a good thing is it not, or is it a pain to write

Yeah good luck

[manic coral]

it's fun to write

just

man idk how wiki people are gonna organize this

[spring helm]

lmao

[dusk laurel]

The wiki is gonna implode

[manic coral]

will probably grant them mercy and jsut give them my dialogue flowcharts im making

[light linden]

you're giving the wiki people a headache for christmas

[untold oracle]

Present!!!

[light linden]

also cei

[spring helm]

all i want for christmas, is a 30 page wiki article

[light linden]

is the permafrost stuff gonna be in SSO or a later update?

[split mortar]

I think sso but idk if p1 or p2

[spring helm]

tundra overhaul

[light linden]

also fun fact

[untold oracle]

Is that an actual update coming up

[dusk laurel]

No

[split mortar]

Dunked sea overhaul part 2?

…

[untold oracle]

Dunked sea.

[split mortar]

I hate autocorrect

[dusk laurel]

Lmao

[spring helm]

thunder really said "fun fact" and then didnt say the fun fact

[split mortar]

Tbf Calamitas did dunk on illmeris and their top guys

[split mortar]

GIVE THE FACT

[light linden]

my dog snowball really hates pictures of yharim and permafrost

[manic coral]

SSO

[light linden]

pog

[manic coral]

almsot for sure

[untold oracle]

Peak

[manic coral]

givne the rate at which it's getting done

[untold oracle]

Why permafrost :(

[light linden]

he growls and barks at them

[manic coral]

i at least want perma and cal dialogue to be finished for SSO

in terms of npc dialogue

[light linden]

ironic considering his name is snowball

[manic coral]

and obviously amidias but

reb is more working on that rn

[untold oracle]

Yooo cal too
Does it include the boss fight?

[manic coral]

not me

[manic coral]

yes, cal fight dialogue has been like 80% done for about half a year none of us have felt like finishign it though

[cosmic zenith]

I will say, I was not aware the Frost Dragon had anything to do with the Snow biome existing, afaik we would have the Frost Dragon's skeleton there and special Pigrons surrounding it

[spring helm]

so who's the quirked up white boy busting it down (sexual style) in Yharim's group

[manic coral]

yeah i'd prefer if it had nothing to do with the tundra existing

[split mortar]

Permafrost

[cosmic zenith]

Same

[manic coral]

but it jsut being there i'd be chill with (pun intended 100%)

[dusk laurel]

[light linden]

the dog in question btw

[dusk laurel]

I do agree the Tundra should not be caused by the dragons

[spring helm]

i better see some mr freeze quotes in the perma dialogue

[split mortar]

Permafrost is the quirked up white boy busting it down

[spring helm]

tundra style

[manic coral]

everytime somebody says tundra witha capital T i do a double take

[split mortar]

Why

[cosmic zenith]

Calamitas dialogue is also tough to write, in the sense that it's something we have to get very right

[manic coral]

name

[spring helm]

christmas hazard

da fuk did vetrasyl do

omg he's santa's reindeer

[untold oracle]

Should it be lowercase?

[cosmic zenith]

(It was Lightning Hazard before because exam week)

[split mortar]

VERTARAYL IS THE GRINCHCH?!?

[dusk laurel]

Grinchch

[light linden]

cei can I ask another lore question?

[manic coral]

which given cal nopc dialiogue for me is fine enough to do but fight dialogue is

hard

[manic coral]

sure

[light linden]

is astral ore outside of the meteor supposed to be basically mana corrupted ore?

[spring helm]

i thought it was super concentrated astral blight

[split mortar]

Astral also turns normal ore into astral ore

[cosmic zenith]

This reminds me of a case I saw earlier on Twitter where a police officer dressed up as the Grinch to aprehend a suspect

[split mortar]

That’s uh

Giving a certain vibe and I think it’s irony

[light linden]

if so it makes me wonder if you could make a metal more magically attuned by just leaving it near astral material

[manic coral]

correcto

all i'll say on it

[spring helm]

what do you mean by magically attuned

[untold oracle]

I think they just mean magically capable

[light linden]

kinda like how magnets can be made stronger by cooling them

[light linden]

was that idea really that bad?

[wheat walrus]

the boreal Tundra...

imagine if the Tundra was formed by Velkhana Monster Hunter...

[spring helm]

more like i got nothing to add

[wheat walrus]

anyways this assumes that you will only be ignored when you say a bad idea on the internet... wrong expelled from sigma school of internet

[dusk laurel]

[split mortar]

No people just didn’t have stuff to add and chat died

I think the idea can make sense just idk what else to say

[dusk laurel]

Ye

[scenic olive]

Calamitas vs Astral Meteor
Who would win?

[cosmic zenith]

Nomon

[untold oracle]

Who the hell is astral meteor???

[dusk laurel]

[split mortar]

Wouldn’t be surprised if scals jaw bone has more mana then the astral star

[wheat walrus]

calamitas' nose and/or ear cartilage individually >

[split mortar]

A single tooth >

[wheat walrus]

degenerate tail bone >

[trim edge]

the dentist who removed calamitas' wisdom teeth crushed them up and snorted it to increase their max mana

[split mortar]

The concentrated power of a brimstone nuke:

[frozen zodiac]

now im getting the idea for a terrarian who's a not so friendly but also still technically sane scientist who cant resist the urge to experiment with the new things the world has every time a boss falls, he would be sane enough to ask calamitas for a blood sample to study because trying to surprise stab her with a needle would result in an extremely painful death

[spring helm]

calamitas i must drink your blood

for science

[split mortar]

V1:

[frozen zodiac]

if he tried to get the blood sample by force he would end up like Wily Coyote after a dynamite explodes on his face before crumbling to dust

[light linden]

this reminds me

we know if lycanthropy and/or vampirism are canon?

[glacial rampart]

the zoologist and werewolves in question

[light linden]

that doesn't make them canon

[split mortar]

Zoologist proves werefoxes are canon

[light linden]

has the zoologist been said to be canon?

[mighty zenith]

nothing says she isnt

[split mortar]

Don’t see why she wouldn’t be

[glacial rampart]

why wouldnt she be

[mighty zenith]

npcs have unique lore-friendly dialogue for calamity so theyre canon

except cirrus for obvious reasons

[split mortar]

Only thing I can think vanilla contradicts is that she writes the bestiary I think but that’s easy to just say isn’t the case

[split mortar]

I heard there’s plans to possibly make her canon

Maybe misremembered this convo a bit wrong but eh here’s what I am talking about

Maybe go a bit up might be more context idk

[cosmic zenith]

Correct

[split mortar]

Oh lmao

[cosmic zenith]

Cirrus will be canon, but she basically exists

So no, she won't be Yharim's ex out for revenge or something like that

[mighty zenith]

laaame ||/j||

[trim edge]

she's actually dog's ex

[dusk laurel]

Space gold

[mighty zenith]

cocoa

[split mortar]

Actually she is dogs mother and true leader of the distortion since she can spawn dog and signus and signus is equal to Noxus in hierarchy

[mighty zenith]

extractclam

[dusk laurel]

True

[devout grotto]

Ok yeah we definitely need more side stories so I'm cool with that

[spring helm]

calamity slice of life manga of Bandit pulling shenanigans in town while the Terrarian is away

[hoary cape]

If signus is equal to noxus in hierarchy is signus still staying before dog in progression lol

I know that hierarchy doesn't mean it's necessarily stronger, but still

[spring helm]

i mean

he's more developed

[dusk laurel]

Yes

[spring helm]

i suppose it's like Permafrost and Calamitas in Yharim's army

one is way higher rank and much more intelligent

but the other is a walking nuclear bomb

[hoary cape]

That is why I stated that I know hierarchy doesn't affect power level lol

[devout grotto]

I vibe with that

[hoary cape]

Right after asking XD

[spring helm]

what's the question then

[hoary cape]

It's already been answered

[stoic gulch]

Question

How was brimstone crags before it became ashes

And please inform me if it exists more stuff about brimstone crags in lore docs

[dusk laurel]

Brimstone Crags

[split mortar]

Brimstone crags is the outer parts of azafure iirc

[dusk laurel]

It's the whole biome methinks

[split mortar]

Atleast the current part is going to be

Deeper parts may exist after the rework

[stoic gulch]

So it was always the brimstone crags just the buildings that was ruined

[dusk laurel]

The buildings are part of a city

The city is part of the Crags

[stoic gulch]

I know about that

And do we know if the society was like good or not?

[split mortar]

Crags was there before the buildings I think

[stoic gulch]

Also melon gun I’m writing fanfic about brimstone crag

[stoic gulch]

Mhmm….

[split mortar]

They sided with yharim

Though they were ruled by not so great gods before yharim popped up iirc so it’s not too great a sign since he was likely a legit actual improvement morally

[dusk laurel]

Not confirmed I think

Who knows if they were ruled by gods or not

[stoic gulch]

Thanks a lot guys

[split mortar]

Don’t fear asking for help if you get stuck on something or want input

[stoic gulch]

I won’t dw

Should I make it in like scals perspective, brimmys perspective or the players perspective

Or another dude

Like draedon or yharim

[split mortar]

Scals would be from a poor persons view

Brimmy would prob not be much since elementals are generally not sapient

Draedons would be of a scientific view and maybe interest in the social ness of the people idk

Yharim would be the closest thing to their leader

Think it’s up to you but these are where the perspectives would be if you were to pick one imo

[dusk laurel]

Draedon would give a more direct and accurate report

[stoic gulch]

HMmmmm

So brimmy is out of the picture

[split mortar]

Yeah true

[stoic gulch]

We don’t really know how yharim acts so that’s probably harder to write

So draedon or scal

[split mortar]

Right then

If you don’t know who to pick maybe coin toss idk

[stoic gulch]

Yeah I will actually

Draedon it is

Is draedon talks in lore docs?

[split mortar]

Yes, everything in game is

And the lab logs about biomes

[dusk laurel]

Except the Arsenal weapon descriptions

Those aren't in the doc

[stoic gulch]

Yeah that’s fine

I more want to study draedon a lack of personality and how they act

[split mortar]

Fair

Good luck with it

[stoic gulch]

Calclone still goes insane from scals magic right?

[dusk laurel]

Ye

[stoic gulch]

Thank you

Is there any lore about infernal suevite

[split mortar]

Suevite is a rock primarily composed of melted material so it’s probably the melted remains of the city charged by brimstone mana from the clash between scal and brimm

[stoic gulch]

Thank you

A once thriving city ruled under the tyrant, burnt to ashes after the fight of the witch and the brimstone elemental.
In hopes of better understanding the magic of the witch, we have tried to trace the magic of the witch, in hopes of making a controllable clone, no mind to think, no mind to break.

The fragments of the city and the magic of the witch’s and elementals flame has condensed into a material, which is called infernal suevite.
We have tried using this to replicate the witch, a secondary clone, but it was only half of the coin, not pure enough.

Uhhh this

Idk if I should add more

[split mortar]

seems pretty good so far I like it

Idk if it would effect the fanfic or not but cal clone was made after draedon got kicked out of you didn’t know

[stoic gulch]

Yes I do know that

Draedon is doing this for the lols

[split mortar]

That do be why he does stuff

[stoic gulch]

True…

I feel like I cut the ending short tho

[split mortar]

True it does seem like it would continue for a bit

Sadly I’m in a similiar boat of not writing much but hopefully others can help when they awaken if you want to continue it by then

[stoic gulch]

Yeah

I might try writing about the aftermath

[indigo glade]

"A lava slime that has absorbed pieces of the charred stone left behind by the Brimstone Elemental." -Extract from Infernal Congealement's Bestiary Entry

[light linden]

y'all think calamitas ever tried to make something akin to cryonic but with her brimstone magic?

[stoic gulch]

Thank you

[stoic gulch]

Cryogen

[light linden]

cryonic

not cryogen

[split mortar]

Ashes of annihilation could be that idk

[stoic gulch]

Yes cryogen is ice

[light linden]

as in she tried to make her own magic metal

[stoic gulch]

Idk about cryonic lore

[dusk laurel]

Cryonic ore is not just ice smh

[stoic gulch]

Ohhhhhh

Yeah probably not

[light linden]

cryonic is magic metal made by permafrost

[stoic gulch]

She doesn’t use any armor so her need of it would probably make it so she doesn’t try

[stoic gulch]

I gotta read lore docs man

[light linden]

I mean

you don't have to use it for armor

[stoic gulch]

At least of what I know of

[dusk laurel]

Was this said anywhere

[stoic gulch]

She’s a mage as well

[dusk laurel]

Perma can make it, but I don't think it's known if he invented it

[light linden]

I'm pretty sure it's not only common knowledge but it's said I think 8 times

most direct example is the tundra log

[stoic gulch]

Does calclone have a soul?

Like the mechs

[light linden]

don't see why not

she's a clone of a person

[stoic gulch]

No I mean mechs has soul, Exo mechs doesn’t

[split mortar]

as cei said in reference to the Xbox uno meme “you have a soul, it comes free with your fucking life”

[stoic gulch]

And calclone is in the middle of it

[split mortar]

Or some other lore writer

[light linden]

she just flies around in a mechanical eye

[mighty zenith]

yeah no

calclone isnt a machine

its a person IN a machine

[split mortar]

She is a completely organic being

Mechs are souls put in mech body

Exos are pure machine

[stoic gulch]

YOU HAVE UNO, IT COMES WITH THE XBOX

[dusk laurel]

👍

[stoic gulch]

Oh

[split mortar]

I DONT HAVE UNO

[mighty zenith]

as far as im aware she just looks like calamitas

[stoic gulch]

Is replica clone but not organic

Or can I still call mech calclone a clone

[light linden]

for context

[split mortar]

The eye sprite is outdated

[mighty zenith]

think like uhh

[stoic gulch]

Yes I do know that

[mighty zenith]

idk shadow the hedgehog

person in tube

[light linden]

"As described earlier, Cryonic Ore was developed by the Archmage, Permafrost." Page 3 of the Tundra log

[dusk laurel]

I just read it smh, that's why i did the thumbs up

[mighty zenith]

sorry im bankrupt rn i just watched sonic 3 and got back in my sonic autism phase

[crystal pendant]

is sonic autism a good flavor of autism

should i try it

[stoic gulch]

I haven’t had one of those

[mighty zenith]

probably

[crystal pendant]

i liked the first two movies so i guess i will

[stoic gulch]

My brother have had one and he was cool during it

[split mortar]

If I ever start playing omori just know y’all ain’t seeing me for atleast 2 weeks

[mighty zenith]

actually yeah if you liked the first two youre gonna love the third one

its even better

[stoic gulch]

Cuz of you getting an addiction or weeping

[indigo glade]

Reminds me that I haven't watched the second one yet.

[stoic gulch]

A once thriving city ruled under the tyrant, burnt to ashes after the fight of the witch and the brimstone elemental.
In hopes of better understanding the magic of the witch, we have tried to trace the magic of the witch, in hopes of making a controllable clone, no mind to think, no mind to break.

The fragments of the city and the magic of the witch’s and elementals flame has condensed into a material, which is called infernal suevite.
We have tried using this to replicate the witch, a secondary clone, but it was only half of the coin, not pure enough.

Hence the aftermath of this was yet another failed clone, but this without a soul, this was controllable.

Unfortunate it exploded

Made ending now

Not good one

But I made an ending

[indigo glade]

That is certainly an ending.

[stoic gulch]

Hell yeah

[mighty zenith]

no voice to cry silksong

[stoic gulch]

💥

[split mortar]

When I first watched a playthrough 2 years ago I was basically not contactable digitally due to omori obsession

[stoic gulch]

Yes that was an hollow knight reference

[split mortar]

For 2 weeks

[mighty zenith]

same

[stoic gulch]

I had that halfway just for longer time

Like I was contactable but only whilst sleeping for two to three hours

So basically never

Should I write something more

Maybe like scal and brimmy fight aftermath from the point of scal

[light linden]

what is omori?

[dusk laurel]

A game

[crystal pendant]

a game that makes you fear stairs

[stoic gulch]

And water

And what was it

Spiders?

[dusk laurel]

Thunder, just a question, do you have access to like a web browser

[mighty zenith]

no i stole their pc

[indigo glade]

Yes.

[light linden]

yes but if I open it while playing warframe my pc gets VERY upset

and lags badly

[dusk laurel]

That explains a lot

Thanks

[light linden]

me playing warframe or my pc lagging to all hell and back?

[dusk laurel]

No not that

[split mortar]

RPG horror game I suggest you play blind

[light linden]

btw

obligatory "I hope we get an incarnon warframe weapon in calamity" from me

[stoic gulch]

Should I draw my version of the player or write some more stuff

[manic coral]

writing permafrost dialogue and currently getting derailed by thinking of actual names for other udnerworld cities that exist out there

[dusk laurel]

New Azafure

[indigo glade]

I have a question, if you don't mind me asking.

[manic coral]

what's up

[manic coral]

unlike some people in real life, im more creative than that

i'm thinking Kreviza sounds likea good one

[dusk laurel]

Having more cities in the Underworld other than Azafure get mentioned is nice

Makes it feel less empty

[indigo glade]

Was the Underworld seen as a second surface to many people? Its open and flat nature seems like it would be good for travel, and it being the same plane as the largest city seems extremely useful.

[manic coral]

exactly

it's basically the msot open place that isnt the surface

like sure some cities were just underground and not in the udnerworld or surface

like most of the crystal city

but that required a lot of space

[stoic gulch]

Hell yeah new lore directly after I wrote about azafure

[manic coral]

that was unusual to come by

[manic coral]

this stems from him mentioining pyromancy and then i though like

you know

where DID that orginate

[deft vessel]

Could ”normal” life exist near the poles (during winter) during the Draconic-age

[manic coral]

now the ideas of it being colder near the poles is sstill something i'm not entirely sure is the case yet

still thinking on that one

[deft vessel]

Also the sun is just pretty much not out here

Sunset was at 3pm

[light linden]

cei can I ask another question please?

[manic coral]

whats up

[stoic gulch]

Oh yeah I also got a question

[light linden]

could azafure have had books in it?

[manic coral]

plenty

and it did have plenty

[light linden]

I assumed paper would burn too easily there

[stoic gulch]

Stone paper

[manic coral]

going into some npc dialouge for SSO stuff here but cal literally tried to steal books from a member of the dragon cult one time

[stoic gulch]

Or ash wood paper

[manic coral]

i mean

the people don't

[crystal pendant]

ash wood paper?

oh

someone said that

[stoic gulch]

Paper is made out of wood

So ash wood paper

[manic coral]

so why would paper

[light linden]

fair point

[dusk laurel]

Classic

[indigo glade]

New mod idea: If you go into the Underworld, you start burning. You can't stop this.

[deft vessel]

Need to see one of those “What if Calamitas was charged for her crimes?”

[stoic gulch]

Fargos souls add that iirc

[light linden]

I mean

[stoic gulch]

One Fargo second in prison

[indigo glade]

Key distinction: You can't stop this.

[stoic gulch]

Satanist maybe

Idfk

[deft vessel]

Nah i’d win

[light linden]

I was thinking about making that for own of my own projects but it only lasts until you kill a certain boss

[stoic gulch]

One and a half Fargo seconds in prison

[manic coral]

like, yeah. it's hot down there, but not THAT hot.

[deft vessel]

Consumes your primordial form

[dusk laurel]

Reb mentioned about a status effect in the Crags Overhaul where your wings just won't work in the Brimstone Crags

[stoic gulch]

NO

HOW DARE YOU

[split mortar]

Giant pools of molten rock casually existing everywhere:

[faint plank]

constant sweating debuff that makes all fire damage 2.5x

[deft vessel]

[stoic gulch]

Hell yeah that seems so cool

[crystal pendant]

are you sweating oil or something

[faint plank]

problably

[manic coral]

i mean

[stoic gulch]

Of course!

[manic coral]

again

it works differently

[deft vessel]

Terraria is Italian confirmed?!

[stoic gulch]

Don’t you eat gasoline?

[indigo glade]

No. If they were sweating oil, that would only hurt the player for an additional 25 per second.

[crystal pendant]

i was suggested gas cubes by merkalto so maybe later

oh true

[split mortar]

So it’s obviously diesel

[crystal pendant]

add diesel to calamity to make heat debuffs even more cracked

good idea!

[light linden]

that's a thing iirc

or something like it

[crystal pendant]

oiled and slimed (slimy?)

not dieseled

[deft vessel]

0-0

[dusk laurel]

Blob

[split mortar]

Nah you see

Diesel in calamity is just really moldy and conductive and capable of causing endothermic reactions

Therefore it boosts all debuffs

Trust me is my proof

[crystal pendant]

"source?"
"it was revealed to me in a dream"

[dusk laurel]

Elite-tier strategy

[deft vessel]

The only trustable source

[indigo glade]

Would you all like to learn a universal truth?

[dusk laurel]

Yes

[split mortar]

I did infact hear something lore related in a dream once

But due to being like a month ago I forgor

[split mortar]

You are stpuid

[deft vessel]

bug

[crystal pendant]

my dreams also often include random calamity bc im brainrotted

my neurons are popping like corn kernels

[indigo glade]

When you are dreaming, you are tapping into the various multiverses, and are able to view what are happening in them. You could be having a better life, acting as a hero in another world, but instead you are stuck in this dystopian hellhole.

Have fun!

[deft vessel]

Lucid dreamers…

[faint plank]

evil gun

[dusk laurel]

Brilliant

[split mortar]

Damn so when you lucid dream you are temporarily God

[crystal pendant]

im going to create the universe-switching device if its the last thing i do

[frozen zodiac]

but what if im dreaming about me taking my phone to the phone bomb defusing store and everybody exploded because the waiting line was too long

[split mortar]

Shrimple

You died

[indigo glade]

Then that means there was a universe of you, with a phone, going to the phone bomb defusing store, and failing to defuse it, because the line in the store was too long.

[split mortar]

What if I dreamed about throwing bricks at you?

[crystal pendant]

this means you should play rogue

[split mortar]

I have

[crystal pendant]

do it more its clearly your calling

[indigo glade]

Then that means there was a universe of you throwing bricks at someone you thought was me. Unfortunately, it cannot be truly me, since I am not part of your multiverse.

[split mortar]

wtf happened to discord just then

[frozen zodiac]

i remember there was the other time i distinctly remember dreaming about a character (not me) saving a family member from going to a kindergarten playground leaded by a literal recolor of caine from digital circus like the doise from pizza tower who's just blue noise like that

[wheat walrus]

no vabbe non ci posso credere, il terrariano è italiano! UNO DI NOI UNO DI NOI ALEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[dusk laurel]

[split mortar]

Right yeah forgot Omni was [the rest of this comment has been sued by Nintendo]

[dusk laurel]

Marioversal

[wheat walrus]

the heating of objects is dependant on how much energy travels through them and accumulates rather than just the temperature they are touched

there's a reason why despite 1500C being the melting point for most metals, it still takes hours to melt any remotely decent chunk with that exact temperature; azafurian magma is prolly silly special

[manic coral]

i will say since im working on the asking permafrsot about magic thing

i am also going to point out that as is kinda shown in the game

[wheat walrus]

ma vaffanguolo te e la tua nintendo

[manic coral]

on a fundemental level, most magic works the same

Most

Necromancy and brimstone magic find their roots elsewhere

but that's more or less it

[wheat walrus]

what about the element of surprise...

[manic coral]

at the end of the day it's all just turning mana into other stuff

at least, to simplify it

[indigo glade]

As in how they are cast, or how they were first "created"? (Can't think of a better term)

[deft vessel]

I remeber this one time, I got bored of a dream so I just switched the dream. The got bored of the new one and switched back

[wheat walrus]

I just had a flashback to Alatreon Monster Hunter doing that but with Dragon Element into other elements... I'm far beyond redemption

[manic coral]

both

[indigo glade]

Interesting.

[manic coral]

necromancy of course as is already known has roots in the rebirth of the auric dragons

and thus

Yharon

[indigo glade]

I'm assuming Brimstone has roots to the

Well

Elemental.

[manic coral]

Being directly inspired by the idea

[crystal pendant]

what exactly is mana? just some primordial force in terraria? Ik stars are made of it

[indigo glade]

Some sort of particle, most likely.

[manic coral]

Permafrost is the one who can go into that a bit more

[deft vessel]

So it would be correct to asume that the 3 main forms of magic in Calamity are:
-Mana
-Elementals
-Domains

[split mortar]

Wacky magic particle stuff

Probably anything beyond normal mana capabilities (like primordial light or sea prisms or god essence or auric and aerialite) are actually a different particle that people aren’t advanced enough yet

Though PL is prob a silly light particle wave thing instead of like the others being more normal matter particles idk

[manic coral]

Mana creates stuff
Elementals have actual control over stuff
Auric Souls are more complicated

What the elementals do isn't really something i'd classify as magic

that'd be like classifying a plant growing from sunlight as magic

or a boulder falling as magic

at least, that's how i feel.

[crystal pendant]

i find beast tamer igloo kinda interesting as the idea of someone who isnt just summoning stuff in to work with like summoners seems neat
i wonder what itd be like to try to work with terraria's creatures a lot

[indigo glade]

Earth, Fire, Air, Water... The Elementals are literally just immortal benders...

[deft vessel]

I mean magic is something that is magical. And I personally would say a giant fire lady shooting fire is pretty magical. But I do see your point.

[manic coral]

yeha it is somethign that's debatable

[split mortar]

Kinda is in calamity

[deft vessel]

The line between magic and science is understanding

[split mortar]

Primordial light being magical or even more then that

[strange stump]

something like the sahara during summer?

[manic coral]

something closer to that ye

harsh conditions, but considering how on average people in cal's wrold or more durable and reistant than those in ours

definitly not unsurvivable

[sinful adder]

I mean, look at their proportions. They're weird mole men

They can handle it

[wheat walrus]

The mole people are the strongest people

Always

Once was Troverians from MH, now it's Terrarians (iirc)

[ruby heart]

tundra is not really related to it, also i did went through both rebbeca, stip, ozzatron and the dev server on the frost dragon thing

he is just a dragon with ice powers that died ages ago (it didnt make the tundra) and the pigrons are its descendants

that is it

just a little worldbuilding as to why pigron are ice biome creatures, and old duke having fur and stuff

[ruby heart]

and they all agreed to it

i send a lot of my stuff in the lore channel to discuss with the lore users before talking about it here, not really my fault you arent much active

(when its a ideia that just came to my head and is not canon/ im working or proposing it still i also make it very clear here)

but if you want, i can ping you when i propose a thing in dev server

[manic coral]

i am sorry and think i got a bit heated

just

this HAS been a frusteration in the past

it feels like i jsut dont get told about things fairly often anymore and it makes working on this stuff not enjoyable when it happens and kills like all of my motivation

[ruby heart]

i mean, again if you want i can ping you for stuff

[manic coral]

i do apologize

[ruby heart]

i just talked about the frost dragon here and considered it a real thing since all the other lore users and devs were fine with it

some also enjoyed the concept

[manic coral]

i do too it's just

not being informed or told about important stuff like this is frusterating espeically when i do or make anything important i usually do a ping to all writers

[ruby heart]

i wouldnt really call the frost dragon thing very important, but make sense

[manic coral]

anyways

thank you

and i apologize and think i was being too harsh

[ruby heart]

but ye i can ping you for major stuff if you want

[manic coral]

i would appricate it

[split mortar]

[manic coral]

anywho i'm gonna go back to eating

[dusk laurel]

[split mortar]

No more chrimas :(

[dusk laurel]

Imagine

[split mortar]

:(

I feel bald

[dusk laurel]

???

[split mortar]

No hat

[spring helm]

wait so the sun orbits the planet right

does that mean it has no rotation along its axis?

[split mortar]

Having two close moon sized objects orbit prob leads to wacky stuff

[light linden]

question

[split mortar]

Yeah?

[light linden]

y'all think yharim being attuned to yharon gave him more magical ability than he had before?

[spring helm]

i dont think so

[split mortar]

We don’t know for certain but I imagine yes

Granted not much

But def some boost

[spring helm]

i imagine it mostly buffed his lifespan considering Yharon's the dragon of rebirth

[dusk laurel]

Ye

[split mortar]

Yeah other then the auric touch I imagine lifespan may have been the biggest boost

[west dragon]

Yes please!

You know what, charge Yharim for his crimes too.

[west dragon]

Making the wings not work in the Crags doesn't really make any sense to me.

[magic epoch]

An unspeakable amount of life sentences on the charge of murder

[west dragon]

Did anyone write a fanfic about Yharim's rise to power?

[magic epoch]

There's also the smaller things like conspiracy or smth

[dusk laurel]

Having wings would make exploring the Crags way too easy

That's probably the main reason

[manic coral]

good news i've mostly finished Permafrost talking about magic

jsut need to make sure there aren't typos and edit it a bit

[light linden]

can I ask a question about the dialogue system?

[manic coral]

what's up

[light linden]

actually it'd prolly be better to ask this first, are you also programming it in?

[manic coral]

probably not but like

it wouldn't need to be programmed it really

it already exists

this is a system base terraria already uses

i'm just taking more advantage of it

[light linden]

maybe I'm misunderstanding how it's going to work then

[manic coral]

you alreayd have options when talking to NPCs

some of which like with the Guide's "Help" option

leads to more dialogue

it is literally a thing that already exists

or like

when asking the dryad how much world evil and hallow you have

it's just

that

[light linden]

I thought it was going to have a seperate ui

[manic coral]

except you can go deeper in and have more options and it's mostly just more dialogue

[manic coral]

i maybe, maybe the current dialogue system will need slightly modified

but

it is literallly a system abse terraria uses

it just does almost nothing with it

in the best case scenerio, even if i probably won't since i have other important shit to do, i COULD put in 90% of it myself because in theory it'd be mostly copy and pasting existing code

[light linden]

maybe I just need to try harder for what I'm currently working on then

[manic coral]

some complications might pop up but

in theory

this should be pretty easy to impliment

Draetalk is way more complex than this is

in terms of implimentation

so it should be just fine

[light linden]

I tried to impliment something way simplier for one of my own projects and uh

it crashed my whole game the moment I clicked the option

[cosmic zenith]

Hmm
I need to read this tomorrow
Good night everyone

[dusk laurel]

Goog night

[manic coral]

alright this part is mostly done too

[light linden]

still wondering if calamitas ever tried to create her own version of cryonic

[hybrid barn]

I guess she might've made infernal suevite, even if accidentally

[manic coral]

alright should be good to share since i checked that all of this has agreed upon info in it

just gotta fix up some last typos

[stuck shore]

If Xeroc has a human face visible post ascension, can he have the symbol on one of his eyes (the center of it being around his eye socket)

[dusky burrow]

Okay so previously I learned that Draedon is a robot, but who built him? Just curious incase anyone knows the answer.

[hoary cape]

🤷

I don't believe it's stated

[light linden]

we're given a character but not much else

just "there was someone dead near where I woke up"

[manic coral]

Well, the dialogue that people wanted to see from Permafrost for Christmas the most was him talking about magic in general, so here's the closest thing to that.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Fxcx1CcR_GZO3rbbiE3aIuI_-M8uhOKcmPdTkJExuiM/edit?usp=sharing

[dusk laurel]

Why is it freaky 😭

[manic coral]

funni

also for reference this makes up what will mayeb be at most

1/20th of his dialogue

i am commited to this

[dusk laurel]

I like reading walls of text

[real silo]

Holy hell this guy is old

I knew he was old but I didn't expect him to be 4 centuries old

[dusk laurel]

[scenic olive]

Draedalus

[split pewter]

well suevite is a form of breccia (heterogeneous melted rock, usually formed cataclysmically)

i believe made from gneiss?

and granite

but also various chunks of glass

so presumably pockets of infernal suevite were created from the brimstone slag whenever one of calamitas’s particularly powerful fireballs impacted it

probably has a high sulfur content

this implies that the brimstone crags are made of basement rock

floating on the asthenosphere

given its location directly under a massive ocean trench (subduction zone) it makes sense that you would find this rock composition there

no wonder azafure was absolutely fucked, their iron must’ve been incredibly impure

[real silo]

a form of rbeecca ⁉️

Rock lore is quite interesting

[languid badge]

will torch god have a calamity bestiary entry

[sinful adder]

Very interesting new lore!

[woven sparrow]

So do we know what Perennial ore is?

[untold oracle]

It’s like concentrated Silva essence iirc

[woven sparrow]

Okay and what is Silva essence? Lol

Wait Silva is the driad

Well… the dead driad in the abyss, so she’s like… dead but not dead right?

[sinful adder]

Kind of, but I suspect you're thinking of old lore

Everything was rewritten like 2 years ago

[woven sparrow]

Oh what’s up with her now?

[manic coral]

yeah happened after the writing team changed entirely, and we figured

"hey a lore rewrite was gonna happen anyways"

"might as well"

but aside from that intial one to make the story, like, actually about to be proper written about more

the general stance is "no more retcons or changes"

because every one of those starts making thigns exponentially more confusing

anyways i shall return to writing

[woven sparrow]

Thanks for taking the time to clarify that

[manic coral]

i'll let other people actually explain stuff since if i do too much, well

where's the fun in that if i just outright say stuff

[woven sparrow]

Understandable

[manic coral]

man i love sneaking in the names of boss themes while writing about said bosses

[untold oracle]

Silva is the Goddess of Life, who originally presumably was the elemental of nature, who then did a perfect ascension to become a god. When the Crusade happened, she was mauled by Yharim, and her remains were sent to the abyss. Why Yharim did that is because since she was an elemental and the goddess of Life, you can’t really kill her, so it was better to reimprison her in the abyss where she hopefully would be forgotten. (she was imprisoned there before too but we don’t know a lot) Right now, Silva is just planty mush and probably braindead, but it has been confirmed that she will regrow into her original form at some point.

[woven sparrow]

Mmmmm okay

[spiral hazel]

I have a question, after reading the new Draedon speech in his computer, I made the calculations and it turned out the resistance Yharim made was 94 years long? is it really that short or am I missing something?

[untold oracle]

What do you mean by resistance

The crusade lasted for a century

[spiral hazel]

oh? really?

i did missed a ton after couple months later from the new lore, so I didn't knew that

[manic coral]

roughly, yeah

almost a century

also i didnt realize how long perma talking about calamitas was until i finally zoomed out

fuckin

all of this

"Hmm... It is understandable that you wish to learn more about her, but I feel that to say too much without her express permission would not please her. She was rarely even inclined to share her interests, much less share things about herself. However, I shall tell you what I feel that you need to know."

Proceeds to talk about her for nearly 9 more paragraphs

meanwhile, draedon:

"She destroys things well."

can you tell that permafrost and calamitas' dynamic is the one i care the most about

[manic coral]

also zooming in wont work, this zoomed out each letter is literally a single pixel-blur

maybe two

i made sure that if you zoom in all it looks like is this

[spiral hazel]

lmao i thought it was my discord acting up

[spiral hazel]

thanks a ton btw, good lore y'all cooking

[manic coral]

nope i made it that way so that nobody can actually tell what i'm writing

and ty :D

permafrost might actually end up as the person with the most dialogue in the game

dude might actually beat out Draedon

[spiral hazel]

tho he was like a mentor for calamitas no? so it would make sense if he yaps a lot

[manic coral]

ye and formerly an advisor to yharim

so yeah

he is connected to a lot of events and people

and is around to see things unfold for 2/3rd of the game

[spiral hazel]

wonderful lore source he is then

[manic coral]

one of the things you can ask permafrsot about yharim

How strong is he?

which i feel like can be taken one of two main ways

1. Being concerned by his strength
2. Boy howdy, that Yharim guy sure sounds strong! I wanna fight him!

[spiral hazel]

or a secret 3th option which determines his attractiveness /jk

[untold oracle]

Hey it’s me, Terrarian!

[manic coral]

Is that all you've got, Yharim!?

[woven sparrow]

The lore is so good, the friends I play Calamity with I also play TTRPGs so I’m gonna try creating a setting that we can run a campaign in. Been asking questions while trying to figure out what system to use. Is there any other Calamity specific lore for the Lizhards other than Golem’s lore drop?

[mighty zenith]

there's the bohldohr enemy bestiary entry

[woven sparrow]

Time to go look at that, but otherwise it’s just the normal Terraria entries?

[deft vessel]

For now…

[woven sparrow]

Then that’s what I’ll work with

[real silo]

You know I thought the "she" here was referring to draedon for a second

"yea that's true that girl draeodn sure does know how to destroy stuff"

[gleaming skiff]

i forgot like half the lore of the game 😭

i only remember dog, yharon, polterghast and yharim

[untold oracle]

There’s a lore document in the pins of this channel

You can also ask if you have any questions 👍

[gleaming skiff]

oh sick

[snow mountain]

i am telling you the bees are an invasive species

[stoic gulch]

^Draedon

Or does he hate bees

I just know yharim loves bees

[mighty zenith]

draedon doesn't really hate

anything

extreme emotions get in the way of research

[split mortar]

Skeletron prime

[mighty zenith]

i wouldnt call it hate

more like

distaste

or

c r i n g e

[untold oracle]

Wait does the planet rotate

[split mortar]

The sun and moon orbit it so we don’t know

[untold oracle]

I think the planet has multiple moons considering the fact that there are multiple moon-like objects that can show up at night

[split mortar]

Solar eclipse into blood moon

[abstract gyro]

now that I think of it

Yharim, technically, wasn't even a ruling authority over the lands, was he?

He was more of a rebellion leader that focused on fighting gods for the few decades he is (in)famous for

[untold oracle]

I imagine the Yharmy as kinda similar to the Mongol empire, they just went to areas and killed the gods, only leaving very skeleton administration behind as they went. Besides, I imagine Permafrost was the one who managed the few outposts etc. they might have had

[split mortar]

I think he has been described to be more like the mongols if we were to use irl examples

[abstract gyro]

plus one topic to research on the matter, ty

[snow mountain]

imo terraria worlds are flat discs

its funnier

that way

[split mortar]

The canvas is like already full how will the next few days go without any canvas increase

[dusk laurel]

Nothing will happen

[untold oracle]

I assume ppl try to chip away empty parts of artworks

I’d love to contribute something more significant than a :3 face but not sure what

[deft vessel]

I managed to put my mascot there. Also stipude

[split mortar]

I third stupid bug

[dusk laurel]

Green

[leaden bridge]

you just grab the empty and background space

you might not be getting french claims but you can build a lot

[scenic olive]

DoG vs Draedon but he built a mech based off DoG out of Cosmilite who would win?

[split mortar]

Dog vs Thanatos

[leaden bridge]

dog wins because itd be funnier

[mighty zenith]

dog can make portals so he's multiversal

smh

havent you heard?

[magic epoch]

dog literally EATS GODS!!!

[split mortar]

Slime god is a god

[magic epoch]

-# what do you mean he's only like a god trash compactor and doesn't actually kill them

[split mortar]

Slime god created the trash compactors

[mighty zenith]

-# what do you mean gods aren't omnipotent

[split mortar]

Slime god is simply the bin man of gods

[magic epoch]

Providence the Profaned God

[untold oracle]

DoG literally devours gods, meaning he can nodiff Nameless Deity (Xeroc (omnipotent)) making him extraultramaxshitversal

[magic epoch]

dog is actually reversal tier

he has focus sash watch out!

[split mortar]

Actually nameless deity has the imagery and thus power of multiple gods in irl religions and so scales to supremextrashitfuclyoumaxgokusolosversal

[real silo]

Dog has god slayer dash

This is a reference to how god slayer armor is misnamed and should be god devourer armor

[mighty zenith]

god layer armor

🐔

[real silo]

do not lay the gods

[mighty zenith]

like an egg

[split mortar]

Do not the providence

[magic epoch]

Devourer of Armor

[real silo]

like brick and mortar

Dirty mfs

[magic epoch]

How is layig eggs dirty

It should only be done in clean scenario

[pliant ruin]

he does kill them tho

[magic epoch]

ok but aren't they like BASICALLY dead

[mighty zenith]

its like getting sucked up by a vacuum cleaner

[magic epoch]

like

nvm

[mighty zenith]

you're most likely definitely going to die as it happens

[magic epoch]

i can't send a random unrelated image that bwrely shows what imewn

[pliant ruin]

dog dosent kill any of the named gods but he has killed other gods

bla bla bla his self imposed title isn't a lie or smth whatever lba bla

[magic epoch]

ok the eater of worlds does technically eat the world maybe

but only a very little bit. like an earthworm eating dirt probably

[pliant ruin]

eater of dirt

[split mortar]

Eater of that one specific blade of grass

[magic epoch]

hopper of grass

[real silo]

like like

the night's edge component

[dusk laurel]

💥

[magic epoch]

me when i explode but instead of dying just my hair disappears

()

[untold oracle]

How potent is Yharim with magic

How skilled is he

[real silo]

Shit up clockollatin

You will be convection ovened

[split mortar]

Considering they’re a melee guy

Prob not much

[real silo]

Clearly he's good enough to use yhermes christal

Yharim will have moon lord laser

Ok what if

Yhermes is actually just a big exo prism

[magic epoch]

there's only like... Umm...... 5 bosses with death rays in calamity

[split mortar]

Exo
Providence
Moonlord
Uhhhhhhhh

[light linden]

doesn't the BoC have one or am I thinking of infernum?

also profaned guardians do as well

[robust osprey]

thats infernum silly!

idk about base guards

but I am 80% sure they dont have

[real silo]

Infernum boc doesn't have a deathray

[light linden]

they do

[real silo]

That lightning attack is the closest and that's a huge stretch

[robust osprey]

it's deathly enough

[split mortar]

Inf guards do

[real silo]

Base guards do the deathray only once

same deathray as provi's

[leaden bridge]

How does the inclusion of half life on the canvas affect calamity lore

[light linden]

ik for a fact they do becasue it killed me in the boss rush and I got really upset

[hoary cape]

It doesn't

[split mortar]

Gman is breaking it down on xeroc

[leaden bridge]

Thank you melon gun for the useful and constructive response

[mighty zenith]

calamity verse vs the combine who wins

[hoary cape]

Me

I win

[split mortar]

Gman

[leaden bridge]

Combine lost against humans because they don't like maintaining supply lines

[robust osprey]

no you wouldnt last 4 seconds against king slime

[median helm]

the guy from skibidi toilet?

[robust osprey]

die

[mighty zenith]

shutting the channel down indefinitely

[median helm]

I did it

[light linden]

[robust osprey]

mods, crush his skull, thank you

[split mortar]

Breathe asbestos

[untold oracle]

Profaned guardians have too

[light linden]

I already said that

[strange stump]

and we hit defcon one like that

[light linden]

something I'm wondering

is yharon's resurrection instant?

[untold oracle]

No not at all

[light linden]

I know he spends some time as an egg but after death does he immediately become an egg?