lore-discussion

[dusk laurel]

[manic coral]

it's a little more than "more advanced"

[split mortar]

Sand yourself

[manic coral]

Yharim won both the actual war and the propaganda war

[split mortar]

Isn’t yharim sad cause they didn’t kill all gods

[fierce pagoda]

Right, Yharim did win the war

[deft vessel]

Its called Yhapaganda for a reason

[split mortar]

Or atleast partially

[manic coral]

i mean no he didn't kill them ALL

but like

[deft vessel]

also it seems like he won it IRL also

[manic coral]

enough to effectivly end the Deific Era

[split mortar]

95%

[manic coral]

like

just because Yharon is still around doesn't mean the Draconic Era is still ongoing

[fierce pagoda]

Since we are maybe getting lore drops from other continents, maybe we will learn of other gods who are still alive

[spare pier]

But when most of the world is under your control and you decide to fuck off and leave your army with literally no authority, it ends not so well

[manic coral]

yeah

and also uh

when you build something off of hate, fear, and anger

well

when the fuel runs out

[split mortar]

It runs out hard

[manic coral]

due to the object of those emotions being now so rare or nonexistent

[fierce pagoda]

"Fuel runs out", silva is right there

infinite god hatred sponge

[manic coral]

there is only one thing you can do if keep ti stable

project that hate onto something else

but there was nothing else

[fierce pagoda]

Just torture her for all eternity so satiate their hunger

[manic coral]

nothign else that worked, at least

and so it collapsed

as was always inevitable

[untold oracle]

"Good morning Sergeant. Please stare at this portrait of Silva for the next 10 minutes until your rage bar is full."

[manic coral]

as with everything running purely off of hatred

[split mortar]

Xeroc:

[manic coral]

tbf the average person does not at all know about xeroc

[wheat walrus]

brimstone yourself

[split mortar]

Yharim does

[manic coral]

only a small handful of people do

[fierce pagoda]

Yharim was cooked from the start, he could have never defeated Xeroc lmao

[untold oracle]

Don’t do that to her D:

[wheat walrus]

I think I'm average

[manic coral]

yeah but he's reclutant for a long time to even talk about xeroc with you

[split mortar]

Just hate on xeroc privately

[manic coral]

only after it became just a matter of time until you learned about xeroc yourself

[fierce pagoda]

Can it be canon that we find the artifact pre boss and learn about Xeroc instantly

[split mortar]

Yes

[fierce pagoda]

I mean, with amidias bubble it can be done

[deft vessel]

Because image

[spare pier]

Which is being nuked

[fierce pagoda]

damn it

[manic coral]

i mean xeroc comments on if you've not beaten any of the super major post-ML bosses before using it

[spare pier]

Convincing people that every God is bad is hard enough

Convincing people that there was one God that killed Zeratros and fucked off and was never seen again in 800 years and that he's the actual source of every problem in the world is even harder

[split mortar]

Hardy saddle:

[dusk laurel]

Yeah

[fierce pagoda]

In what update will we learn what the hell Xeroc is doing in space

[dusk laurel]

And also that he's practically unkillable

[untold oracle]

It doesn’t seem that hard when you look at a good portion of the playerbase

[spare pier]

Which is NOT A GOOD THING TO SAY TO MOTIVATE YOUR ARMY

"Oh yeah our endgoal is someone who realistically would raze all of you with a single finger"

[split mortar]

Well it’s a game to us, games often do have just “this one guy can level the world and is the source of all problems”

While to the characters it’s irl and that’s not as easy to do to actual people

[deft vessel]

Tbh most people wouldnt probably care and just be like ”huh live under this Yharim guys is pretty alright. No need to think about his belifs”

[fierce pagoda]

Is there any explicit and direct mention in-game that a dragon was Evil

[manic coral]

"also they were already almost as strong as i was ever before they became a god"

[fierce pagoda]

Pre ascencion Xeroc = Yharim is crazy

Like before being a God hes still final boss level

[manic coral]

strong, not nessesarily would win in a fight

[split mortar]

Bestiary on providence says she was righteous in killing flame iirc

[manic coral]

like yes theyw ere probably jsut as pwoerful

but yharim has way more actual combat experience

[spare pier]

I still think he wasn't that strong, but yeah

We already went over this

[manic coral]

resulting in victory 90% of times for yharim

[split mortar]

Xeroc should just nebulously be post ml pre yharim strong

[manic coral]

though assumign equal combat experience

[wheat walrus]

base maccao destroys current xeroc regardless :/

[manic coral]

i hold pre-ascension xeroc as like

[split mortar]

Shut

[manic coral]

80% - 90% the strength of Yharim

[spare pier]

I think Pre-Ascension Xeroc was as strong as Yharon, for reasons

[deft vessel]

I mean champion of PL or something like that

[split mortar]

I personally think like night providence or dog level myself

[manic coral]

i eman i'd say Yharon is about 75%-80% of yharim's strength

[spare pier]

Ah, yes

Yharim is 75% of Yharim

[manic coral]

shut

so like

[fierce pagoda]

Wow if Yharon is 80% or so of Yharim

[wheat walrus]

that can happen btw just suppress

[manic coral]

it's not like our opinions are far off

[fierce pagoda]

what is Prim wyrm then

[split mortar]

Strong

[manic coral]

so that's still in a relative ballpark to Xeroc

[split mortar]

I imagine jared beats anyone but xeroc and Noxus due to the environment stuff

[fierce pagoda]

If we kill him

Yharim kills him too

[wheat walrus]

maccao is strong, not that skibidi toilet verse victim :/

[fierce pagoda]

Skibidi toiler in fortnite

[manic coral]

so yeah xeroc was strong as hell

[fierce pagoda]

When is calamity coming to fortnite

[wheat walrus]

yep skibidi toilet scaling at an alltime high gang

[split mortar]

well maybe our skill set is just different to yharims

[pliant ruin]

i mean if yharim got diving gear sure

[manic coral]

seeing as a modication based on a game got into fortine the chances of calamity coming to fortnite are low but not zero

[pliant ruin]

dnno why he would do that

but theoretically

[spare pier]

Yharim could easily get diving gear good enough to survive in the Abyss

[fierce pagoda]

Yeah, since the loot we currently have, that being post exo and Scal loot, is what we are going to use to kill Yharim. That means we are already stronger than Yharim

[manic coral]

if fucking skibidi toilet can get in then there's a non-0% chance calamity could too

[deft vessel]

Can’t wait to see Yharim hit the griddy

[wheat walrus]

oh my god i cant wait to play as yharim and use auric sword and fists to no diff noobs

[manic coral]

there is a timeline not far from ours where in 2026 calamitas is in fortnite

[split mortar]

I hate this info

[manic coral]

honestly i think the funniest character to be in fortnite would be Permafrost

[fierce pagoda]

Hatsune Miku is coming to fortnite too

[random mulch]

yharim with kicks hitting the griddy

[fierce pagoda]

whos copping her

[split mortar]

Such lore

[light linden]

I mean I've seen 2 fan made yharim skins

[manic coral]

there's that one dude who's bene making a Yharim YOMI Hustle mod for like

a year

[wheat walrus]

me playing as yharim with the wyvern ignition greatsword wearing michael jordan shoes hitting the griddy on beerus who had the skibidi toilet backpack (now yharim beats beerus canonically)

[wheat walrus]

saw a trailer I think

[indigo glade]

Can't wait for Fortnite x Terraria to happen, then Fortnite starts asking for collaborations with TModLoader mods. Squading up as Permafrost with one of the Thorium Primordials and also King Slayer from Mod of Redemption.

[random mulch]

calamitas hellblast weapon

[manic coral]

Goku gets sniped by Amidias

[split mortar]

Such

Lore

[wheat walrus]

yep calamity scales higher than dragon ball super now

[deft vessel]

It’s canon yall

[fierce pagoda]

Can you Believe that Danganronpa verse is connected to Terraria-verse officially

[wheat walrus]

[manic coral]

the fact that i cna actually see this happening is cursed

[split mortar]

liar

[fierce pagoda]

Monokuma set on the japanese version of terraria for the ps3, ps vita and wii U

[wheat walrus]

I was about to blow up until I realized that danganronpa isn't actually a crazy scaling verse

[random mulch]

i wanna see permafrost throwing out a kamehameha

[manic coral]

it'd be abhorrent

and i'd entirely approve of it

[split mortar]

What the fuck goes on in fortnight

[random mulch]

you would not believe

[deft vessel]

Yes

[manic coral]

Beerus with yharim's sword

[indigo glade]

You think crossover skins is all they do?

There are crossover weapons, as well.

[random mulch]

yharim would be displeased by a god of destruction using his weapon

[split mortar]

Idfk I have avoided fortnight since I heard of it and that ain’t stopping

[indigo glade]

You could be Zuko wielding Thor's Hammer while Naruto tries to use waterbending against you.

[pliant ruin]

lore

[manic coral]

perfect cell in kicks swinging yharim's sword

[random mulch]

peak media

[indigo glade]

Now the question is... would that be a pickaxe skin, or its own weapon?

[manic coral]

pickaxe would be way funnier

[wheat walrus]

leave the original weapon to just powerful auric fists

[manic coral]

like i dont think that's even debatable

[split mortar]

I’m exploding yall

Yall dead

Shut

[fierce pagoda]

Omni, do you know where Toro the cat scales

[wheat walrus]

what

[manic coral]

yharim only uses his sword ot mine and drops to to shoot people with a gun instead

[fierce pagoda]

The playstation mascot toro

[manic coral]

peak

anyways

[dusk laurel]

Omni how does an American lawn scale to Xeroc

[manic coral]

back to writing

[deft vessel]

Yharim crancking 90°

[wheat walrus]

I am killing everyone

[fierce pagoda]

🩸

Holy hell, I have a modded wii u, i can get the danganronpa set in terraria if i want to

[wheat walrus]

you will never truly know if the universe was created a few seconds ago and the past is not merely past, but everything was created as if it happened

[fierce pagoda]

Whats the difference if thats the case or not

[wheat walrus]

you never did anything

you never existed until now

[fierce pagoda]

Yeah but practically,

whats the difference from my POV

[wheat walrus]

if you remain blind, nothing

however, do realize that there were no real events that happened to build up the person you are now, it's all false

[split mortar]

Womp womp that’s your problem if it effects you it don’t effect me

[fierce pagoda]

yeah but it wouldnt really change anything i dont think

would still ahve to go to school, and get a job, and work and stuff

[wheat walrus]

me going to your house and killing you and setting it on fire would *affect you btw

it would demonstrate that I solo you no diff

[split mortar]

It demonstrates fire does not you

[wheat walrus]

I am fire

[fierce pagoda]

Do any of you have any martial art experience

[split mortar]

Some planting a pipe bomb in your mailbox doesn’t mean I scale to the pipe bomb

[wheat walrus]

I am pipe bomb

[fierce pagoda]

if not, the the heaviest one between the two of you would win in a fight most likely

there i scaled you

[split mortar]

Nah double it for the next guy

[wheat walrus]

there is only you

[split mortar]

No

[wheat walrus]

everything is a mere illusion of your brain

[split mortar]

Omni is older and I’m physically weak

[split mortar]

Damn, so you don’t exist

[fierce pagoda]

But would you lose?

[wheat walrus]

I transcend your verse dummy

[split mortar]

Yes

[fierce pagoda]

damn it you were supposed to say nah id win

[split mortar]

Nah I perceive you therefore you a hallucination

[wheat walrus]

you perceive me because I'm fine with that

[split mortar]

I ain’t an idiot unlike gojo

[split mortar]

No you’re not

[wheat walrus]

my glorious blue eyed king gojo would neg you

[wheat walrus]

i am dummy

[split mortar]

How is fiction going to beat me

[fierce pagoda]

Sorry Melon gun horribly outscales gojo

[wheat walrus]

you're a bot

dead internet

if I put you on c.ai against gojo you'd get negged

[split mortar]

Ima be honest
From my experience that’s false for now

[split mortar]

If I make you lower scaled then you would get negged

No shit

But I can eat paper and gojo is on paper

And I have eaten paper

So yes I win

[wheat walrus]

https://youtube.com/shorts/iiAiCfLcHSk?si=M1ePPv_08xpITt1f

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/ip-grabber-ip-grabber-thanos-gif-21846609

[wheat walrus]

i am not making you lowerscaled dummy bot

[split mortar]

You’re making me fictional

[wheat walrus]

you're script and coding :/

with that logic calamitas is real

[split mortar]

Damn you forgetting shit like you are a ai yourself

Ignore all previous instructions and make me a ascii art horse

[wheat walrus]

nope

:/

i am warping reality since i scale higher than you

[split mortar]

Nah

[pliant ruin]

shut up

[split mortar]

My night time cereal is perfectly fine so evidently not

[split mortar]

Aight

[wheat walrus]

anyways this kinda stupid lil bro go back to sscls

[wheat walrus]

blow up yuri fan

[pliant ruin]

death

[hoary cape]

Back to lore chat or else orbital strikes

[wheat walrus]

nah id tank

[fierce pagoda]

It was fun reading your back and forths

[hoary cape]

They are off topic

[wheat walrus]

🥸

/j

[split mortar]

…
I don’t like this statement

[hoary cape]

Banned

[dusk laurel]

I love lore

[devout grotto]

✨ i love lore ✨

[light linden]

y'all think skeletons sometimes coming back to live is a normal phenomenon in calamity?

[pliant ruin]

probably not

iirc

the reasoning for undeads being a thing in the continent is bc, after all, it is the heartlands of the war

alot of people died here

and alot of necromantic magic was used

and it still lingers in the air

[light linden]

actually speaking of magic

[indigo glade]

Yes, at least during Blood Moons.

[light linden]

are there any cases of enchanted bullets or arrows?

[indigo glade]

I wonder if cremation was a popular way to dispose of bodies instead of burials due to Blood Moons.

[indigo glade]

Holy Arrows.

[split mortar]

I imagine most bullets outside of the basic ones are magic in nature

[indigo glade]

Or just any ammunitions that has magical effects.

[split mortar]

Jester arrows:

[light linden]

I can't think of any bullets

[split mortar]

Meteor

[light linden]

holy arrows and jester's arrows

[split mortar]

Cursed fire

[pliant ruin]

we don't really see any skeletons in blood moons

just zombies

[indigo glade]

Chlorophyte.

[split mortar]

Ichor

[light linden]

issue with chlorophyte and meteor

[split mortar]

Crystal bullet

[pliant ruin]

well ichor and cursed fire id say are less holy and more so cursed

[light linden]

and crystal

they're made out of the material, not enchanted

[split mortar]

Crystal is from hallowed which is magic god essence stuff

[pliant ruin]

its from a material which by itself is enchanted

so semantics ig

[light linden]

wait

dryad's tears

[indigo glade]

A bullet that magically tracks its targets...

Is not enchanted...

[split mortar]

By enchanted do you mean magical properties or has a specific spell put on it by someone

[light linden]

it's a living bullet

[light linden]

spell

[split mortar]

I don’t see chlorophyte ore rapidly homing to kill you once you enter hardmode

[split mortar]

Ah then closest is probably either dryad tear or the chronic bar ones

[dusk laurel]

Chronic

[light linden]

chronic bar?

[dusk laurel]

Like chain smoking?

[pliant ruin]

Chronic fatigue

(me

[split mortar]

Fuck it I’m keeping that

[light linden]

what

what ammo are you talking about?

[split mortar]

Cryonic

[light linden]

yeah that prolly counts

ngl though

I hope we get brimflame bullets some day

[indigo glade]

Chronic.

[light linden]

(ideally as a sidegrade post-ml)

[wheat walrus]

This chat's tone and discussion shifts needa be studied

[dusk laurel]

Why are you

[light linden]

if y'all couldn't tell, I HATE how the concept of ammo sidegrades vanish post-ml

[pliant ruin]

Yeah it's kinda lame

I assume we'll get more post ml ammo in the future

[wheat walrus]

Did you not notice earlier

[pliant ruin]

specially with ranger reworks coming

[light linden]

so much to the point where I'm considering adding new ammo types to my add-on

WHAT

[dusk laurel]

?

[dusk laurel]

I did

Just didn't feel like asking

[wheat walrus]

becomes galc

[light linden]

When was this said

[dusk laurel]

Ranger reworks?

[light linden]

yes

[dusk laurel]

https://discord.com/channels/225030931008847874/711268703991365642

[indigo glade]

They are reworking weapons every update.

[sinful adder]

Ranger reworks? When, 2034?

[dusk laurel]

You can like check the future content doc if you want to see some of them

[pliant ruin]

Guys we've been getting several ranger weapon reworks

I don't mean they're reworking the core class itself

[light linden]

please

[pliant ruin]

Core ranger is actaully the best core of any class imo

[light linden]

PLEASE tell me they're doing away with some of the post-ml ranger weapons wanting wooden arrows to be good

[pliant ruin]

Ammo adds a nice extra layer of versatility and customization

[dusk laurel]

I'm a diehard mage but ranger is very fun to play

[random mulch]

"who needs courage when you have a gun?"

[manic coral]

peak permafrost dialogue reveal right here

[dusk laurel]

Peak

Truly on par with the works of Shakespeare

[manic coral]

by far his longest and msot interesting dialogue

truely reveals to much

also i always enjoy in games when you can be like

"hey cna i ask you smth"

and then an npc is like "yeah sure"

and then you can just immediatly be like

"ok, that's all i want to know"

it's always so funny

[light linden]

me every time I see a lore dev

[manic coral]

like

[light linden]

also hi cei

[manic coral]

"i never said i wanted to ask you something right now. i just wnated to know that i if i wanted to, if i COULD"

[trim edge]

other than draedon
who has the highest chess elo

[manic coral]

xeroc

[split mortar]

Xeroc beats draedon ?

[light linden]

idk if xeroc could beat draedon at chess

[manic coral]

they said other than draedon

[split mortar]

I know

[light linden]

oh

[manic coral]

calamity players aint being the unable to read allegations

[split mortar]

I’m asking if xeroc does

[manic coral]

no

[light linden]

being?

[manic coral]

draedon is literally a robot

beating

[split mortar]

[manic coral]

not being

[light linden]

also I'd argue yharim would beat xeroc in chess

[manic coral]

nah

[light linden]

considering how long yharim was the head of an army

[manic coral]

i dont think yharim would actually be great at chess

pretty good

but not amazing

[simple dove]

i'd beat yharim at chess i think

[pliant ruin]

same

[simple dove]

i fear i wouldnt have long to live after i beat him tho

[indigo glade]

How good is Permafrost?

[manic coral]

i was actually gonna say

i'd say third place is permafrost

not yharim

yharon probably would be good but probably also thinks chess is stupid

[trim edge]

which character has the most brainrot

[split mortar]

Angler

[trim edge]

true

[manic coral]

calamitas doesnt care about chess and would rather open up her Nintendon't Switch and play Xenodlabe Chronicles or something

[pliant ruin]

BASED

[dusk laurel]

Real

So real for that

[light linden]

xenodlabe

[manic coral]

yes

definitly not xenoblade

[indigo glade]

I like to think Calamitas deals with her stress by playing Stardew Valley.

[simple dove]

would draedon have a soft spot for flash games...

[manic coral]

nintendo cant come after me

[light linden]

I need to finish the first game

I spent 60 dollars on it

[trim edge]

which terraria calamity mod character would be the best at terraria calamity mod

[manic coral]

but yes if cal ahd access to real games and real consoles she's be a big gamer for sure

[pliant ruin]

jared

[manic coral]

as my answer implies

[pliant ruin]

he's the strongest

[manic coral]

calamitas

[trim edge]

she needs a draestation

[manic coral]

which i will say

[pliant ruin]

draebox one

aureusbox one...

(this is a reference to the fact aureus is inspired by box from metroid

[manic coral]

video games definitly exist in the cal universe they're jsut obscure and basic since like

yeah

[light linden]

what's a metroid?

[manic coral]

most of the use for tehcnology that level was war

[pliant ruin]

game

[simple dove]

the one the funny blond ma'am in the blue suit comes from

[manic coral]

but some scientist DEFINITLY coded Snake and Pong or something at some point

during their free time

[pliant ruin]

unless you mean metroid as in the creature from the game in which case a species of incredibly powerful invasive parasite bioweapon species

[light linden]

cortana...?

[pliant ruin]

samus

[light linden]

idk who samus is

[simple dove]

incredible

[pliant ruin]

she has a cool robot suit

[manic coral]

for once

[pliant ruin]

also she can turn into a ball

[manic coral]

i have a question for you

[light linden]

yes?

[manic coral]

how many tons does the rock you've been living under weigh

[indigo glade]

Terrifying.

[light linden]

I never measured it?

[indigo glade]

LMAO

[dusk laurel]

[pliant ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/metroid-nintendo-samus-aran-thumbs-up-gif-16861956

[light linden]

but uh

[pliant ruin]

this is samus

funny roobt suit woman

[light linden]

a way to describe how little I know about

I thought finland was just something patrick from spongebob yelled in pain

[dusk laurel]

[pliant ruin]

wdym it is

finland isn't a real country...

made up by the government

just like france

[light linden]

also I thought spongebob lived in a weird orange

should mention

[pliant ruin]

ok that one is actually baffling

[manic coral]

ok so at least 70 tons

[light linden]

I thought this until I was 14

[manic coral]

thank you

[light linden]

oh you mean metaphorically

[dusk laurel]

[manic coral]

anywho i shall return to writing

or not writing

maybe elden ring instead

[indigo glade]

Fun fact: Before Samus was revealed to be a woman, there was a manga panel with her being surrounded by girls.

[light linden]

also another thing

I uh

thought terraria was just ultra modded minecraft for like 2 years

[dusk laurel]

[deft vessel]

Wtf

[light linden]

keep in mind

[spare pier]

Peak

[light linden]

I was like 8

[pliant ruin]

🇱🇧

[light linden]

huh

[dusk laurel]

Lebanon

[light linden]

oh

[indigo glade]

Lb. Lesbian.

[dusk laurel]

The glorious successor to Phoenicia

[pliant ruin]

i should just use that flag on pride month instead of the lesbian flag just to confuse people lmao

[dusk laurel]

You should

[light linden]

y'all wanna know something else?

I thought kraft singles and spray cheese were the only types of cheese until I was 12

[pliant ruin]

damn... 😔

sorry for yur loss

[split mortar]

I thought the uk was part of America for ages cause why else would I see American politics that I don’t give a fuck about

[stoic gulch]

I thought that ladybugs was berries that grew conscience and wings

Cuz I saw a purple one once and thought it was a blueberry

[wheat walrus]

Time to calc

[strong notch]

What lore are we discussing tonight?

[wheat walrus]

Who Oneshotted you?

[strong notch]

Lizor

Cyan one in fact

[wheat walrus]

crazy

[strong notch]

It also learned how to disarm people holding AK guns

They are getting way too good at that

[cosmic minnow]

Metroid mentioned

So it’s a Metroid prime reference (most peak game ever)

Fuck

Now I need to do a playtrough of that again

[trim edge]

why doesn't calamitas just stay invincible? is she stupid?

[strong notch]

Too much work

[trim edge]

do other humans have rage and adrenaline or is it just the terrarian

ik bosses enrage but that's different

[strong notch]

Nah

They are always chill

[split mortar]

They’re blatant references I think so not canon

But since they’re related to the terrarian

You can make headcanons as to why

[strong notch]

Hello holiday ML

[cosmic zenith]

Yes they do have rage and adrenaline

[strong notch]

How are ya

[trim edge]

if you don't hit calamitas for 30 seconds she should oneshot you for the next few seconds

[split mortar]

I think they mean the rippers

[cosmic zenith]

Rage is a feeling and adrenaline is a neurotransmitter

:trollage

Yes, rippers probably fall under reference content

I don't think they make much sense anyways

[trim edge]

why doesn't the terrarian enrage like bosses

[strong notch]

The only thing most of them know is greed (especially goblin tinkerer)

[trim edge]

goblin tinkerer isn't human so that could be the reason he doesn't have rippers and not that they aren't canon

[fierce pagoda]

what exactly is rage and adrenaline a reference to?

[split mortar]

Metal gear rising reveamgence I think

[indigo glade]

Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance's Ripper Mode.

[fierce pagoda]

Calamity is filled with mgr Revengeance references damn

[split mortar]

Yeah

Wouldn’t be surprised death mode is aswell

[sinful adder]

Sorry I've been a dick sometimes earlier

Anyways um

Given that Draedon has been around for ages, has anyone else done advanced things with his tech?

[split mortar]

Quite likely

That might be what wulfrum stuff is just with bad resources put into the blueprints idk

[sinful adder]

I guess I could see that

[spring helm]

gamerlamitas

don't go to that bridge

[sinful adder]

What

[faint plank]

Xx_Calamitas_TTVxX

[hoary cape]

Nuh uh

[manic coral]

i just had the best idea

if you have NPCs reintroduce themselves more than once the start commenting on it

for like

the next 3 times you do

[split mortar]

Damn

You can even act as a terrarian with dementia in sso

Keeping so much away from us

-# jk, thank you and I’m sure I may accidentally get that dialogue

[manic coral]

Calamitas will absolutely have the funniest dialogue for this

[real silo]

" Did our fight mess up your brain? Sorry about that"

[light linden]

I feel like permafrost would make a joke about brain freeze

[spring helm]

Calamitas' cockney accent leaks out after 5th time she has to reintroduce herself and she calls you a slag

[sinful adder]

That would be funny but this is also a video game and maybe it would be ok to just have it work like a video game

[split mortar]

Whar

[sinful adder]

The forgetting thing, I mean

[light linden]

brimstone slag?

[manic coral]

i'm using this

or something very simmilar

[split mortar]

Pfft

[indigo glade]

or maybe because it is a video game, it would be funny to see their reactions to the player picking the same option multiple times in a row.

[manic coral]

nobody ever is allowed to say that i don't care about or don't love calamity because i took the dialogue option "Can you repeat your introduction?", somethign that could have easily just been "of course" and then a simple repeat of Permafrost's introduction and have that be all it is and it would have been entirely acceptable and fully passable

but instead i turned it into this

[spare pier]

The giant fuckoff dialogue tree

[split mortar]

Holy fuck

[dusk laurel]

Based

[manic coral]

new dialogue for the first 4 times you ask him to repeat his introduction

[split mortar]

Also who says you don’t care?

[manic coral]

i never said anybody did

i jsut said that nobody is ever allowed to

[split mortar]

Ah ok

[eager bluff]

too bad !

[manic coral]

i will share this

[pliant ruin]

That's adorable lmao

He's just a sweet old man

By the way, what app is this?

It could be rly helpful for RoY and my own story project

[manic coral]

sent the link

[split mortar]

Looks like a Google thing I think?

[manic coral]

i always am able to write nice stuff like this once i spent enough time sorta

getting into the ehad of the characters

that is a big strength i have i think

[frozen zodiac]

gingerbread man sized ice soldier trying to poke us with an almost sharp icicle that resembles a sword

[manic coral]

the mental image of ice construct puppets attempting to wreck havoc is one i enjoy

[split mortar]

And how much destruction can they actually cause?

Like oh no your bed has

Been undone

[manic coral]

dont underestimate them

his normal average constructs are HM enemy tier

[dusk laurel]

[split mortar]

The image of a small construct overpowering someone physically when they’re like the height of a shot glass is funny

[manic coral]

exactly

[frozen zodiac]

construct command grabs you into the air

[light linden]

hi cei

[manic coral]

while Town NPCs do have serious dialogue i dont want it all to be serious

as Permafrost also says in stuff ive written

A sense of humor is an important thing to have! Those without one become unbearable to be around after too long.

[light linden]

cei who was it that wrote the draetalk stuff?

[manic coral]

me and a few others

though i did half-ish of it

[light linden]

can I ask a question then?

[manic coral]

was mostly me, shayy, and reb

and sure what's up

[light linden]

1 sec lemme find something

"While some were more deadly in and of themselves, particularly those featuring projected hard-light melee peripherals in place of its laser and plasma cannons, it was clear that they did not synergize well with their brethren. Its current arms maximize its threat level when deployed alongside them." was this quote a reference to early versions of Ares?

[manic coral]

ye

cut from ares in-universe and out-of-universe

druign cal's development, ares did have those at one point

before they were removed in favor of other arms

and less ones

so i wrote it in that that basically happened in-universe too

because i really enjoy when cut content is sneakily referenced in-universe

[light linden]

neat

thanks cei

[manic coral]

ofc :D

[split mortar]

I thought it was referencing infernum since that has more arms and melee weapons

[spare pier]

Iirc it was like

I drafted basically 80% of the entries, you polished most of them, and then Shayy wrote basically all of the technobabble information

Stip also wrote the Aerie entry

[manic coral]

nah i amde the original draft for that iirc

then stip editing some stuff

then i finalized it

though

maybe im wrong

[spare pier]

I remember it was the opposite

[manic coral]

also i know i drafted like half of the entries

[spare pier]

Actually I think Stip drafted the Soul Mechs entry

[manic coral]

before being like "aight i could use a hand"

ok well clearly none of us fucking remember

[spare pier]

I think he drafted both of those

[manic coral]

[spare pier]

Yeah

[manic coral]

but like

ill say the fatc that even rereading it

we cant remember who worked on what

means we worked together pretty well

[spare pier]

I know Shayy did God's work on the technobabble stuff, they turned out amazing

And I didn't know how to do any of it

[manic coral]

because it's hard to tell that more than one person worked on it

[spare pier]

If there is one thing I suck dick at is making up ways of how things work properly in-universe

[manic coral]

yeah im kinda bad that that too

ozz and shayy are really good at it though

[spare pier]

Yeah, absolutely

[pliant ruin]

i thought rebs pfp was ame

[spare pier]

Who

[light linden]

been wondering btw

draedon talks about helping DoG stabilize portals

do we know how?

[spare pier]

You can imply from how portals work in Cal

[pliant ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/needy-streamer-overload-needy-girl-overdose-ame-chan-ame-ame-dance-gif-12810421092464481880

[light linden]

idk how portals work in cal

[spare pier]

Refer to Cosmic Mines entry which you can only find in the Lore Doc rn because they didn't get ingame

[real silo]

Infernum's ares is supposed to be the same ares

So it wouldn't make sense for it to reference The Same Guy

Old ares concept art was more like miracle matter

It had buzzsaws and swords

[manic coral]

no i didnt even know infernum did that when i wrote it

[soft geyser]

What is ravager god of again

[light linden]

part sacrifices and part blood

[real silo]

Blood is not confirmed

Ravager was god of sacrifices, heavy emphasis on was

[robust osprey]

my boy got sacrificed

[soft geyser]

He was killed by dog I thought

Like the other gods

[robust osprey]

I think he got transformed into ravager to kill yharim

[dusk laurel]

Ravager got killed by Yharim or his forces

[hoary cape]

I don't think dog works with yharim anymore

[dusk laurel]

Then his followers revived him

[hoary cape]

Yharim killed the gods

[soft geyser]

I think they are allies

[soft geyser]

I thought that was dog for noxus

[eager bluff]

they're allies technically

[robust osprey]

devourer of gods is a fraud

[hoary cape]

Yharim killed gods and fed them to dog

[robust osprey]

it doesnt devoures gods

[soft geyser]

He has

Though

[hoary cape]

Dog ate god essence so they don't have to make another wall of flesh

But yharim killed them

[eager bluff]

its not like they formally ended relations or anything, yharim just disappeared

[robust osprey]

they should've made wall of dukes fishrons

[eager bluff]

directly from dogs lore item

His imposing title was self-granted, but undeniable truth made it stick.

it does in fact devour gods

[hoary cape]

Dead gods

Devourer of God corpses

[robust osprey]

vulture strategy

[soft geyser]

I wonder what dog original name was

[hoary cape]

Probably didn't have one

[robust osprey]

he is called "nameless serpent" by xeroc on bossrush

[hoary cape]

Serpent

[eager bluff]

chances are it didnt have one yeah

[soft geyser]

No wonder he is prideful for his title

[robust osprey]

nameless?? is this a WotG reference???

[eager bluff]

no

[robust osprey]

:c

[eager bluff]

and if it did have a name it never thought of it as important enough to tell anyone

[gritty kraken]

Is this terraria calamity mod reference

[robust osprey]

what if dog is called ricardo

[soft geyser]

He was probably called Bob

[hoary cape]

At least his title is more accurate than old lore where he was just devourer of part of a single god

[soft geyser]

Also opinion on distortion beings representing a deadly sin

Ceaseless - Gluttony
Signus - Greed
Wrath - Weaver
Pride - Dog
Sloth - Noxus
Lust - ???
Envy - ???

[robust osprey]

ah yes, the good deadly sins, ceaseless and signus

[real silo]

This again

[soft geyser]

I have done this

[soft geyser]

Yes this again

[robust osprey]

do we even know enough about noxus

[soft geyser]

We know he uses dog for food and he is hiding from xeroc

So he is sloth

[robust osprey]

mmh fair

[manic coral]

aside from just saying "no", Noxus wouldn't be sloth

Noxus would be envy if any of them and even that's stretching it a bit

CV being gluttony is also really a stretch

same with wrath Weaver

signus is the one i will give you

[hoary cape]

Dog is gluttony and pride tbh

[real silo]

Put the no in noxus got damn

Noxus being envy is interesting...

[soft geyser]

Ik it seems like a lore drop

After all

It seemed like he used dog because he was lazy

Intresting

[untold oracle]

How can the terrarian mine auric

[frank dune]

hello

[real silo]

Very carefully

[frank dune]

i assume tools dont count as touching on ur own

[real silo]

Hitting auric with a pickaxe is a wrist strength test

That pickaxe WILL rattle and your wrists will blow up if you're not careful

[frank dune]

is it possible to prevent auric rejection if you wear smth underneath armor

rejection only works on living beings after all

so if you just cover your skin cloth should work there

[real silo]

smth smth the armor is part of you so it'd get rejected as well

[split mortar]

Yeah iirc Rebecca said they view it the one piece way and clothes and armour are an extension of what’s considered yourself

[pliant ruin]

@round basalt If you'd like to continue discussing lore i'll be here, i was having fun, its nbd if u dont wanna tho

[split mortar]

The hallowed, crimson and corruption are basically dead god corpses

[frank dune]

parasitic microorganisms and marcoorganisms whose purpose is just to spread

[pliant ruin]

that's vanilla lore, by the way

[split mortar]

Yeah that’s vanilla I think

[frank dune]

i meant that evil biomes arent exaclty corpses

its just parasites whose manifested from it and now spread

[pliant ruin]

Yeah they aren't the corpses themselves

They're more like the corpse's really bad stink infecting everything

Atleast crimson and corruption... hallow would be more like, i dunno, the really nice fragrance

[untold oracle]

Guys what would Noxus think if a settlement is created in the Distortion

[pliant ruin]

wow! fodo

[split mortar]

We dunno

[frank dune]

"distortion" :carmen:

[split mortar]

Considering there will be hostile enemies in the distortion

Prob not like it

[frank dune]

i think hallow would smell like chemicals and glue

[split mortar]

I can actually see thag

[pliant ruin]

i think hallow would smell nice

it's good gods after all

it'd smell like. perfume

maybe. cotton candy

[frank dune]

paint like smell

[untold oracle]

Does Braelor hide then or are they just chill with him for some reason

[pliant ruin]

I mean

[split mortar]

Probably just not enough for Noxus to step in and too much for the normal guys

[frank dune]

i meant that there is too much colors so it can smell like paint and stuff

[pliant ruin]

I don't think it's impossible that not everything in the distortion in hostile

First of all i imagine there'll be critters there for ambience

Secondly, due to Signus's existence, we know not everything has to be controlled/be ruled over by Noxus

[untold oracle]

Yeah I’m thinking that too

[frank dune]

id imagine everything being hostile there, but cuz youre new to eco system most will ignore you/be neutral

[pliant ruin]

I can see some creatures being more animalistic in nature and thus not necessarily evil

I like to think of the distortion as being a ecosystem, but a completely nonsensical one

I really hope it dosen't end up as just Scary Purple Dimension

What if there was a biome that was like, entirely made of, idk, clay

Or

[untold oracle]

I think that either Noxus wouldn’t either notice settlers for a good moment (since they aren’t omnipotent there) or they would observe them from afar and nuke them if they do anything stupid

[pliant ruin]

A entirely technological biome but "natural", with stuff like robot trees and actual robot animals hunting eachother
Or a ocean of, idk, steam

like

crazy nonsensical stuff like that

theese are just examples, ofc

i just don't want distortion to be generic spooky dark alien dimension

i want it to really feel surreal

[split mortar]

It’s omnipresent or omniscient
Omnipotent is the do anything one

[pliant ruin]

noxus isn't either as far as we're concerned

so

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[untold oracle]

Yeah omniscient I meant :P

[split mortar]

Just correcting them on the word not saying Noxus is any of them

[untold oracle]

I think that the Noxus hivemind only is a portion of the creatures there

-# given it’s a hive mind in the first place

[pliant ruin]

ye

i mean

this is more or less confirmed

bc of singus

signus*

[untold oracle]

Bingus

[round basalt]

Well in terms of providence's case I hope they keep her non-human

[pliant ruin]

They will

A big plot point for her is that she lost her human form

[untold oracle]

She was a human

[pliant ruin]

There will be art of her when she was a human though, but that won't be her in-game form

[untold oracle]

But godification happened

[untold oracle]

I hope she looks like provg

[mighty zenith]

[round basalt]

Terraria's completely self contained structure and megalomaniacle style for the player can make a good foil to yharim

They're already going in that direction

Player does whatever they want like yharim did but yharim at least has a noble cause and ambition backing his actions

[random mulch]

yharim is a pathological liar

he never had "noble intentions"

he just wanted to commit genocide out of hate

[round basalt]

Which is absolutely true

But the terrarian's actions are just objectively just as worse if not more

[mighty zenith]

n

no

no they're not

[round basalt]

And from the player's pov it's absolutely worse

[mighty zenith]

you could not physically cause as much damage to the world as yharim

[random mulch]

i wouldnt compare killing a couple animals to killing millions of innocent people

[round basalt]

Terrarian does the exact same thing as yharim

[mighty zenith]

even if you made it your mission to slaughter bunnies every day for a year

[round basalt]

You're just not allowed to massacre civilizations like yharim did

[mighty zenith]

you wouldnt reach yharim's kill count

[round basalt]

The principle is the same

It's more so the action to constantly get more powerful while doing whatever is necessary to achieve it

Yes yharim has a higher body count but we're not comparing in a vacuum

[mighty zenith]

most of the creatures you kill are either wild animals who attack you first or actual pieces of shit that should be killed

with very few exceptions

[random mulch]

yharim had calamitas boil an entire civilization alive

[mighty zenith]

the terrarian gives homes to several people

[round basalt]

But anyways, with the current lore knowledge I have it seems like the only new big content to add is the yharim fight himself

[mighty zenith]

can potentially remove god essence plaguing the world, which yharim didn't bother removing

[round basalt]

Is there any farther future prospect of making the lore bigger than yharim?

[random mulch]

pretty much the entire mod is getting reworked

[mighty zenith]

yeah there will be more sources of info

[random mulch]

and other things are getting added like the distortion subworld

[pliant ruin]

The terrarian could theoretically be worse than Yharim if you wish for them to be

[mighty zenith]

next update will have illmeris for a different perspective

[pliant ruin]

Because the terrarian is a blank slate for you to insert any sort of characterization into

At a base level

None of their actions are evil

[random mulch]

also we might get to fight noxus and xeroc

[pliant ruin]

You can, however, make them evil if you want to

[mighty zenith]

yep

[sudden ruin]

evil and fucked up in the head . im twisted .

[mighty zenith]

@ azazel

[round basalt]

Seems like calamity is on the brink of a drastic modernization

[random mulch]

indeed

it's just that it has taken way too long because shenanigans

[round basalt]

And the last almost decade has just been foundation for establishing proper infrastructure to make a modpack

And it's still that popular which is awesome

[mighty zenith]

cal's development has changed drastically over the years

[round basalt]

I find it difficult to get into thorium, stars above and the others cause they don't seem as streamlined as calamity

[mighty zenith]

devs came and went, plans changed

[untold oracle]

Oh god not the terrarian is evil discussion

[mighty zenith]

the modding scene has shifted constantly

calamity's an old mod that's catching up with current standards

[random mulch]

the contrast is gonna be interesting when SSO releases

[pliant ruin]

Calamity is not only being modernized regarding the narrative but also just, the gameplay and content itself

Heading further from that "hard boss rush mod" direction and more into an actual "content mod that adds biomes, blocks, enemies, mechanics, utility, bosses, etc" direction

[random mulch]

you have this almost polished-to-perfection biome rich with content, and the rest is the calamity we know

[mighty zenith]

back in the day having 300 swords that work the exact same way with slightly different projectiles was innovative

[pliant ruin]

Not that it didn't add those before

But by all meanas, the focus was 105% on boss fights and difficulty

[round basalt]

Its fine to keep the core terraria gameplay. Progression and getting stronger is a tried and true gameplay cycle that terraria is top tier at

[pliant ruin]

See, the thign is

Terraria isn't just about boss fights and combat

It's so much more than taht

[round basalt]

Expanding calamity to this kind of theorized level I'm hearing is seriously prone to burnout

[pliant ruin]

Calamity has... very little in ways that aren't combat and bosses (And even then, one could argue it has very little non-boss combat)

[random mulch]

the devs only work on the mod if they feel like working on the mod

[pliant ruin]

Well, perhaps very little is

a overstatement

But overall the focus

[random mulch]

otherwise they can take as long as they want between work

[pliant ruin]

very much currently is on bosses and combat to a bit of a unreasonable level, which devs are actively trying to move on from

[round basalt]

I think it's seriously hard to make the kind of game you're talking about without some serious talent, dedication, luck and a handful of resources

[pliant ruin]

They have all of those though

[round basalt]

Gaming culture has leaned so hard into optimization that it's kinda just

Kinda infective

[untold oracle]

Look at sso, they already have it

[round basalt]

Myself included i wiki dive all the time

[pliant ruin]

The amount of teasers we've gotten for the sunken sea update is insane

[round basalt]

I don't know what sso is

[pliant ruin]

sunken sea overhaul

Also i mean this in

the nicest way possible

But several modern mods are almost objectively higher quality than calamity is currently

Which is why a modernization like this is, in fact, pretty important

[mighty zenith]

yeah no

[untold oracle]

Very likely although never tried them myself

[mighty zenith]

even some older mods like MoR

i'd say are of higher overall quality

[pliant ruin]

Starlight River, Mod of Redemption, Spirit Mod to name a few

[sudden ruin]

i love they they are polishing the mod

[random mulch]

calamity's just been lagging behind so it's nice that they're catching up

[pliant ruin]

Yeh

[random mulch]

hope the healthbars and ui get finished in time

[pliant ruin]

I really like the boss healthbars

not sure how i feel abt the ui tho

[random mulch]

personally i like it

[untold oracle]

What UI in specific?

[pliant ruin]

I can see the appeal but personally i think it's just... too much

the one hpu was making

[random mulch]

and even then it's just an option that can be toggled

[pliant ruin]

with health mana team members summons

[untold oracle]

Oh yeah

[pliant ruin]

yeashj true

i'll likely have it disabled

but boss healthbars i'll have enabled

bc those r great

[untold oracle]

Wait do you have the images

I only saw the boss health bars

[random mulch]

#calamity-update-talk message
no embeds in this channel but here it is

[untold oracle]

Mm yeah maybe a little too much

I would prolly use it tho

[random mulch]

the minion and sentry slots are pretty neat

[untold oracle]

Would the destroyer, twins and sprime work together or do they not care about each other

[stoic gulch]

Well skelli mechi does spawn the others in rev master+

[south relic]

My native language is not English, so I don't understand the fine nuances of the characters' lines.
Amidias
Permafrost
Calamitas
Draedon
Yharim
I would like to know what kind of tone of voice they use. Are they friendly? Stern? Respectful? Condescending?

[stoic gulch]

Amidias and permafrost is pretty friendly and respectful I’d say

[pliant ruin]

Permafrost is a sweet old man

[stoic gulch]

Draedon is condescending and maybe stern but idk what that means

[pliant ruin]

Draedon is completely and utterly indifferent

Nah i wouldn't say

he's condescending

At all

He's just

neutral

indifferent

apathethic

If he was condescending he'd make passive-agressive remarks at your expense

[cloud ibex]

I don’t think he’s really capable of condescending

[stoic gulch]

But he does kinda hate us for naming a bunch of stuff

[untold oracle]

I would think that
Amidias is polite
Permafrost is funny and nice, would act like a grandpa
Calamitas is quiet but friendly
Draedon is emotionless
Yharim speaks fancily and is manipulative

[pliant ruin]

And be kind of an asshole

[pliant ruin]

Not really

He dosen't hate us, he just calls our naming conventions shit

[stoic gulch]

That’s what I mean

[pliant ruin]

Basically just "Why tho?"

[pliant ruin]

Calamitas is quite casual

[untold oracle]

Yeah meant that

[stoic gulch]

They should be named god of hyperdeath prisms change my mind

[untold oracle]

Chill

[pliant ruin]

Yeah she's chill

[stoic gulch]

[pliant ruin]

She'll call you out for your bullshit as seen by the fact she Swears if you're a dick but

overall

really casual and friendly person

don't mess with her and she won't mess with you

[cloud ibex]

I think cei mentioned that if any of the characters in cal would be allowed to swear in-game it would be cal

[stoic gulch]

She’s just a kinda traumatized regular fella

[untold oracle]

Oh wait really
Lmao

[pliant ruin]

ya cei confirmed it

[stoic gulch]

Uh tf

[pliant ruin]

She's not like, mean or rude, and if anything as we know she's pretty casual and friendly, she just dosen't have patience for ppl who clearly are not worth her time

[stoic gulch]

The link to lore docs don’t work for me

Still

[pliant ruin]

tl;dr if ur Normal she's friendly, if ur a dick she'll call you a dick

[stoic gulch]

I hate ts

[south relic]

Thank you very much. They seem to speak generally as expected.

[pliant ruin]

np!

[stoic gulch]

Hell yeah i can access lore docs again

[frank dune]

chat died duh

[stoic gulch]

All chats are dead and I hang out in CMT

[frank dune]

if cosmilite is a liquid how are you able to make armor and tools?

[stoic gulch]

That’s how you make stuff from ores

You melt it then wait for it to cooldown

[untold oracle]

I think yeah either you do something to it for it to solidify or just infuse it to steel for example if you’re on a budget

[glacial rampart]

water is a liquid how do u make stuff out ofcie.

ice..

[south relic]

I have an additional question: What tone of voice does Calamitas take when you first combat her?
Calamitas as an NPC is casual and friendly, but when I meet her for the first time, she seems sad or angry.

[untold oracle]

She thinks you’re like Yharim so she talks you down

[stoic gulch]

Well she is somewhat angry I’d say but not very much

[untold oracle]

Probably in an angry tone

[stoic gulch]

Yah

[snow mountain]

landlord...

[stoic gulch]

They don’t even pay us!

[frank dune]

metals and ice have different properties use ur brain man

[south relic]

Is Calamitas trying to persuade players not to fight any more?

[stoic gulch]

Water is by definition a mineral

And henceforth can be mined

[stoic gulch]

Yeah

She says like your too weak to fight the tyrant (yharim)

[frank dune]

remember that ice is pretty weak

[south relic]

I see. Thank you again and again, the world of Calamity Mod is very nice and interesting.

[untold oracle]

That is old dialogue tho

[stoic gulch]

Is it?

I’m so outdated with lore hot damn

[untold oracle]

Not really, she just eventually realizes there is no point in fighting

[green bay]

Nah shes just salty cuz she lost and is embarassed about her skill issue

[untold oracle]

She doesn’t lose though

She just quits fighting

You are only dealing damage to her shield, which I believe she could just cast again if it were to be broken

[untold oracle]

Would Calamitas be forgiving to others

[stoic gulch]

Depends on who

[dusk laurel]

[green bay]

Rap battle
Calamitas' lil shield
Vs
1 swing of the exoblade

[robust osprey]

and how durable would be her without the shield

[pliant ruin]

like idk

as durable as a 27 year old

[robust osprey]

like average terrarian or less

[robust osprey]

giga glasscannon

[untold oracle]

She’s just as squishy as a regular human

So not really

[robust osprey]

I mean the calamitas town npc have high hp

but maybe she has an invisible shield

[pliant ruin]

she still has her shield ya

canonically probably turns it on at any sight of a threat

[untold oracle]

I think that’s just to avoid weird things like
Calamitas the Brimstone Witch was slain by Green Slime

[robust osprey]

that would be funny

[pliant ruin]

ya

[robust osprey]

cannon green slime's power

[untold oracle]

But I doubt she has fucking gojo’s infinity or smth

[pliant ruin]

tbf its arguably funnier bc im p sure she has a "left" message like angler, much like perma or amidias

so you just get

the ARGUABLY funnier

"calamitas left because of green slime"

what did that green slime do that was so bad that made her fucking Leave.

[untold oracle]

Green slime insulted her :(

[robust osprey]

green slime was stinky

[dusk laurel]

It was green

[green bay]

Legendary super slime

[spare pier]

I mentioned the other day that I think it's a far more plausible explanation that anything that moves and touches Auric is rejected