lore-discussion

[spring helm]

because that's the name of like 3 renowned blacksmiths and their swords are named after them as well

[split mortar]

Even then references to irl mythology is less wacky and jarring to people then games

[untold oracle]

If Calamitas is unable to perform ordinary spells how does she fly

Does she just add something to make the spell go overboard

[light linden]

iirc it's not that she can't do ordinary spells, it's just that she's prone to putting too much energy into them and blowing herself up

[split mortar]

She did cast cryogen afterall

[faint plank]

those who snow ☃️

[cosmic minnow]

NO

[thick slate]

those who bro

[mighty zenith]

i will slaughter you

both

[thick slate]

bold words for someone with a removable role

[mighty zenith]

i will laughter you

[thick slate]

yayy

[cloud ibex]

Then it shall be a fight of tradition

Square up

[split mortar]

Pfft

[thick slate]

[untold oracle]

What happens if you put cryogen in the ocean

[fierce pagoda]

The fish get a bit cold

[visual bane]

iceberg video lets goo

[split mortar]

Anahita has to leave her house again

[light linden]

been wondering

[fierce pagoda]

I've been wondering too!

[light linden]

who the hell could've made the void shrine?

[fierce pagoda]

Maybe Xeroc

made it himself

and put the artifact there

[split mortar]

jared

though yeah maybe xeroc since iirc they put it there

And it’s fucking xeroc

The abyss ain’t going to crush them or anything

[fierce pagoda]

Nice of him to take the time to make the shrine look nice though

Could have just chucked the artifact in a crack in the bottom and hidden it, but no, he wanted a shrine to put it in

kind of like he wanted someone to find it again

[split mortar]

Could have gone and did the. Way infernum has it

[split mortar]

Or maybe the shrine itself is older then xeroc and it was re used? Idk

[untold oracle]

Silva

I mean she must’ve been hella bored

[light linden]

I do not think the corpse can build

[spring helm]

the dude is just dramatic like that

[untold oracle]

Maybe the artifact has emotional value to them and they wanted to give it a proper burial instead of just tossing it there

[fierce pagoda]

Why doesn't he just keep it on himself, not like anyone is capable of ripping it off him or anything

Also why bother hiding it in the first place, its useless now

or maybe it wasn't when he hid it.

[split mortar]

Perhaps if some alien force could get it off him (like Noxus) it could do much more then just a prefect god ascension ritual

[fierce pagoda]

Another alternative would be to just destroy it

[split mortar]

We don’t know what the terminus is fully capable of

Could be just a ascension thing or something more

[untold oracle]

It’s the core of the sun fused into a rock

[fierce pagoda]

Perhaps it has ties to the world soul

[split mortar]

So idk if it’s good idea to consider it as confirmation but I’m pretty sure the profaned core being part of providences power thing is happening in sso

#suggestions-discussion message
this convo

[dusk laurel]

This is like the 2nd time this has been confirmed in sugg discussion

[split mortar]

Oh lmao

[dusk laurel]

And there was a whole convo in cst too

[split mortar]

So it’s open that it’s the closest thing to being ingame

[tropic oak]

hey. which one of you LOSERS has the calamity scale doc

[pliant ruin]

there's a calamity scale doc?

crazy

[tropic oak]

yur

[sinful adder]

What's the deal with the clentaminator? Does it destroy godly essence? Or maybe split it off of the matter it's infecting and push it into the atmosphere?

[pliant ruin]

i mean it also affects other biomes that aren't infected

like

it can turn desert into snow ,,,

so i assume its idk

magic alchemy gun or smth

bla bla bla equivalent exchange bla bla fullmetal alchemist whtever

[split mortar]

Equivalent exchange isn’t needed since stuff can be made out of nothing

Also it prob just pushes the god essence out

[pliant ruin]

.

i don't think it's exclusive to divine essence

it does far beyond just cleansing evil biomes

[glacial rampart]

alchemiter... homestuclk,,,

[wheat walrus]

I do but it's quite a bit outdated in terms of calculations

[tropic oak]

[light linden]

been wondering

[faint plank]

those who burn 🔥

[tropic oak]

those who calamitous

[pliant ruin]

also wdym by this

[light linden]

wait no nvm

[pliant ruin]

i can't recall anything ingame that would imply that

[tropic oak]

i will take it nontheless

[split mortar]

Stuff can be made out of nothing

Seen with sea prisms

[pliant ruin]

that's energy

not matter

[split mortar]

Doing nothing and getting energy doesn’t seem very equal

Isn’t energy and matter like, capable of being made into the other

[pliant ruin]

You can't turn sand into snow with energy alone as far as i'm concerned but i'm not a physicist so idfk

[tropic oak]

idk draedon can probably figure it out

[wheat walrus]

alr.........................

[eager bluff]

theoretically

[glacial rampart]

um,, made it cold..

[eager bluff]

i believe the theory is if you get something going the speed of light, because of Physics™️ it becomes energy

[light linden]

just realized something

y'all know climbing claws?

[fierce pagoda]

Are perpetual motion machines possible in calamity

[light linden]

considering how humanity was stuck underground for centuries, it's possible that a primitive version of them was very common

[split mortar]

They’re a common accessory

And spike shoes

[split mortar]

Yes, with the power of sea prisms and exo prisms

Though I think the gems themselves would be better energy source

Idk if there’s other ways for perpetual energy

[fierce pagoda]

Void walls or sunken sea walls, they produce infinite water

but that's just gameplay, very certain of that

[split mortar]

Yeah same

[light linden]

actually

do we know how well sea prisms hold an edge?

[split mortar]

Probably decently? Isn’t there that enchanted sword rip off made of them

[devout grotto]

Hello lorers

Been busy lately so no yapping

[split mortar]

Pretty sure Rebecca’s night providence thing is confirmed

[fierce pagoda]

Kinda funny that we use sea prisms early on to make basic swords and weapons, not knowing that they hold infinite energy and have insane potential.

[light linden]

ehh

they require a lot of work to be good

[fierce pagoda]

Its like an in game plot twist, "what!? this early game material was the key to exo prisms!?"

[light linden]

they have a very weak charge normally according to draedon

[pliant ruin]

broke draedon exo prism vs woke terrarian Aquashard Shotgun

[dusk laurel]

That doesn't change the fact they can be made into exo prisms

[devout grotto]

Although I've been doing a master study featuring Ayla for some time now :O

Too bad I can't send any pics 💔

[light linden]

@devout grottoyou

[pliant ruin]

jumpscare

istg everytime i see vivid's terrarian name i get jumpscared 💔

[light linden]

hey cheese is your pfp Caitlin from platinum/black and white?

[pliant ruin]

ye

[light linden]

pog

[dusk laurel]

I feel some deja vu

[split mortar]

It’s the sands

[dusk laurel]

No

I just feel like this conversation has already happened (or a similar one) not too long ago

[split mortar]

Also your pfp changed

[devout grotto]

o/

[dusk laurel]

Took you long enough to notice

I've had this for like 3 or 4 days

Anyways uhhh, lore

[deft vessel]

Chat do i summon the rat?

[split mortar]

Nah I just bothered to ask just now

[split mortar]

The rat summons you

[dusk laurel]

This is the one I had between the last pfp I had and the old one from like september

[devout grotto]

Wait why

[deft vessel]

Only I can summon my champion

[devout grotto]

Ok but ngl it's literally just one letter away from the alias I use too NXBDHDHSH

[deft vessel]

Ok but i need an answer

[pliant ruin]

I think you're saying my name 😭

[fierce pagoda]

...I want to see

[pliant ruin]

And i'm like WHAT and then my brain is like wait no right

its the terrarian not me

[fierce pagoda]

do it

[deft vessel]

Im jolly again

[split mortar]

How many project moon games have you played

[pliant ruin]

all of them

[deft vessel]

This some 4d stuff

[light linden]

what's project moon?

[pliant ruin]

indie game studio

from korea

[frank dune]

show ur hours ingame

[pliant ruin]

i dont have that many in ruina or lobcorp yet

however

[frank dune]

as true pm fan ive seen alot of fakers out there

[split mortar]

Studio that made library of ruina, lobotomy corporation and limbus company

[fierce pagoda]

how do you fake being a fan

[frank dune]

not playing any of games?

[fierce pagoda]

why would anyone do that

[pliant ruin]

bandwagons usually

[deft vessel]

Ngl Lobotomy corporation for a name makes the game sound like slopp

[fierce pagoda]

and besides, people can enjoy the story without playing the game i guess

[pliant ruin]

lobotomy corporation is hard

but its story is peak

just like every other project moon game

[frank dune]

keep yourself safe

[pliant ruin]

because project moon games have fantastic narrative

[frank dune]

id say all pm games are hard in general

besides limbus

id say its pretty mid

[pliant ruin]

limbus is fairly easy in comparison yeah

[frank dune]

story is nice but gameplay is mid

[pliant ruin]

idk i like the gameplay

its not that hard but its fun

[deft vessel]

The rat will consume your food. Then you🫵

[fierce pagoda]

Is the game play like rpg maker

level

[pliant ruin]

no

[frank dune]

its just downgraded library of ruina

[split mortar]

Ruina having the most wack difficulty spikes I have seen

[pliant ruin]

it is p much simplified ruina yeah

they had to make do since its a mobile game too

but all things considered

[frank dune]

no cards managment, no deckbuilding no speed dies, no light managment

[pliant ruin]

for a ''simplified" ruina they still managed to cram alot of mechanic complexity in there

[dusk laurel]

Thunder, just a thing I've noticed but, a lot of the questions you ask can be answered by a quick google search. Not trying to be rude, i'm just curious

[frank dune]

slop

[fierce pagoda]

mobile games🤢

[pliant ruin]

limbus is both a pc and mobile game

[frank dune]

i can say atleast story is nice

[fierce pagoda]

I take that back, Clash of clans is goated

[deft vessel]

You are Google now

[split mortar]

They can be good

Sadly they for the past while have been filled with shit stuff

[pliant ruin]

choosing ur ids and egos is basically a simplified version of deckbuilding

[split mortar]

Terraria is a mobile game

[fierce pagoda]

Super Mario Run was almost good

[pliant ruin]

and speed dies r

[deft vessel]

There are like 5 good mobile games

[pliant ruin]

basically still in the game

[frank dune]

idk

maybe game felt easy

[pliant ruin]

yeah its easy

[frank dune]

cuz i just returned and got 3 000 ids

[pliant ruin]

but easy =/ bad

[indigo glade]

Lore.

[fierce pagoda]

I know, but not in the way we mean

[pliant ruin]

its subjective

also yeah this is lore chat...

[frank dune]

wild hutn, uh manager don and gregor cockroach idk

[pliant ruin]

my project moon autism took over me

[split mortar]

Minecraft is a mobile game

Lmao

[fierce pagoda]

Mineccraft is also not a mobile game in the way i mean

[frank dune]

well i mean limbus has no ads

another +

[pliant ruin]

i play limbus on steam

anyways

lore

[fierce pagoda]

If it originated on PC, and was ported over it doesn't count as a mobile game

[frank dune]

same

but i connected account to mobile so i can do daily stuff outside home

[fierce pagoda]

it has daily quests and stuff? what kind of games are project moon games?

[indigo glade]

I can do fifty pulls on Limbus...

[fierce pagoda]

oh

[pliant ruin]

guys 😭 atleast move to #general-talk

[fierce pagoda]

dont tell me its gacha

[frank dune]

nuh uh

lorers aint lorin anyway

[deft vessel]

Lore moment

[indigo glade]

No. (I have never entered there.)

[frank dune]

technically every pm game is gacha

l corp is abno gacha

lor is book gacha

limbus is just gacha

[pliant ruin]

limbus is the only one that involves real money tho

but like

[fierce pagoda]

Instantly became mid for me

[pliant ruin]

its so free it might aswell not be a gacha

[fierce pagoda]

below mid actually sorry

[pliant ruin]

u can play the entire game without spending 1 cent

i have like

[indigo glade]

As someone who hasn't spent one cent, I can confirm.

[frank dune]

ngl library was hardest for now

[pliant ruin]

nearly every id and several max uptie max level ids, and have beaten the entire game, and haved 300+ hours on it

[fierce pagoda]

Moonlord lore in Sunken sea update part 1 soon🤤🤤🤤

[pliant ruin]

i have not paid for a gacha once

[frank dune]

kali and xiao took me soo much nerves

melon knows.....

[fierce pagoda]

Its not about the money, its about the mechanics

[pliant ruin]

BURN THOSE WHO DARE TO CARE FOR ME,,,

[fierce pagoda]

and its also about the money actually

[frank dune]

l corp is managment game

its fun

and late game stuff tooo

[pliant ruin]

idk how having a gacha means the game mechanics r bad

u do know tf2 is a gacha right

[frank dune]

lor is uh

card game ig

[indigo glade]

"Luck = bad"

[pliant ruin]

[frank dune]

i never played other card games

[pliant ruin]

lor is like

honestly basically its own genre

[frank dune]

so i cannot compare it to anything

[pliant ruin]

ive never seen any game like it

[frank dune]

strategy+card id say

you need to keep alot of stuff in mind

[pliant ruin]

i think it's insane how much people hate on Literally Any Game for purely having any form of gacha on it when like

tf2 is one of the most beloved games of all time

and objectively speaking

[frank dune]

my gambling addiction inside me is in total agony rn

[pliant ruin]

its one of the first mainstream games to have implemented a gacha system ever

a paid gacha system, that is

[frank dune]

personal opinion that tf2 is mid for new players/one like me who returned to game after long break

youre gonna get fucked in all places by mfs with 10000+ kills weapons

[fierce pagoda]

All the fifa games are gacha too lmao

[indigo glade]

Not a personal opinion. TF2's starter loadouts are very limiting in what you can do. It is why I have never decided to put more than five hours into it.

[frank dune]

almost 3/5 matches have spymain which abuses knife hitboxes

[pliant ruin]

I'd argue

[indigo glade]

I cannot be bothered with getting items to create a playstyle I want when I'm not having fun with the tools I currently have.

[frank dune]

its not about kit

[pliant ruin]

nah actually id say they're almost about even

[fierce pagoda]

Fifa has got to be like, the most popular gacha game, at least in the west

[frank dune]

but about matchmaking

[pliant ruin]

was gonna say i think tf2 is more p2w than limbus but

[fierce pagoda]

or any other sports game with card pulling mechanics

[pliant ruin]

u can get good in both games without spending any money

but i think tf2 is a littleee more

neither games are rly p2w mind you

[fierce pagoda]

The reason i dislike gacha games mostly is due to them being grindy in nature

[pliant ruin]

they're both like

[fierce pagoda]

and i hate grinding too much

[frank dune]

cant call limbus greedy

came back after a year only week ago

[fierce pagoda]

not greedy

[frank dune]

maximum playin 1-2 hours

[fierce pagoda]

Grind

[pliant ruin]

limbus is a little grindy but not that much

[frank dune]

and like still gettin most of stuff

even got waw gregor ego on first pull

luck was on my side ig

[pliant ruin]

waw gregor?

garden of thorns?

the worst waw ego in the game 😭

[fierce pagoda]

Idk how to proparly explain it, i just like it when i can do whatever/progress when i want to, whenever i want to, without being limited and having to wait for something arbitrary

i feel as if most mobile games and gacha games do that

[frank dune]

well i dont have other options

[pliant ruin]

sorry for your loss

it sucks so bad but atleast gregor looks nice on it

[frank dune]

ig faust ego from pass i got yesterday

but i have no good faust ids soooo

[pliant ruin]

i have the funny gun gregor ego

fav ego in the game

[indigo glade]

I haven't been timegated once, and I'm halfway through the fourth chapter. There are currently seven chapters, with some mini chapters inbetween. Limbus Company is great.

[frank dune]

ngl limbus power scaling feels weird to me

zayin abno can be harder than waw bosses

[indigo glade]

I've also only had to grind once for levels, and that was for one stage.

[fierce pagoda]

There are probably tons of great gacha games, but i just tried to explain why i always shy away when i learn that a game is gacha

[deft vessel]

Limbus-discussion

[frank dune]

as person who played l corp i find that weird

[fierce pagoda]

I tried playing Dokkan battle

That shits crazy

[indigo glade]

Non-gacha games can do this, too.

[pliant ruin]

we should talk about lore now.....

wheres a developer when we need them smh

[indigo glade]

Yes... Project Moon lore...

[frank dune]

like theres any lore left

[fierce pagoda]

but these things i usually see more of in gacha games/mobile games

[frank dune]

were just sucking on a dry cow

[dusk laurel]

Clueless user

[deft vessel]

Cei summoning ritual

[mighty zenith]

discuss tf2 lore (don't actually)

[fierce pagoda]

Does anyone have any unexplored part of the lore they would like to discuss

[indigo glade]

We can do this by talking about Dragon Ball Z.

[deft vessel]

Oh yea

[frank dune]

fine fine

you guys start

[dusk laurel]

I'm putting you through a sift

[frank dune]

idk what idk about cal mod lore

[fierce pagoda]

Dragon Ball Daima is expanding the DB lore

[indigo glade]

Why does Slime God's Despawn message (with Boss Checklist (Yes, those are canon)) mention "vengeance"?

[fierce pagoda]

I've been wondering about that too

[frank dune]

metal gear rising

[fierce pagoda]

I always humorously chalked it up to you killing his slimes

and made him angry

[deft vessel]

It’s because you killed a slime

[fierce pagoda]

But really I have no clue

must have been something we did during gameplay

any idea to what we did? (other than killing slimes)

[dusk laurel]

Maybe it's related to Statis

[fierce pagoda]

All this speculation, only for the devs to just remove the despawn message

[dusk laurel]

I'm searing you

[frank dune]

sorry, i am immune to all status effect debuffs.

[dusk laurel]

That isn't a status effect, so you're dead

[frank dune]

i am immunte to all damage too

[dusk laurel]

Then you're fake

[frank dune]

nuh uh

just a barrier which blocks all dmg

silly

[fierce pagoda]

They're "immunte" to all damage, not Immune so they're dead

[dusk laurel]

[frank dune]

🤓

[fierce pagoda]

sorry I don't write the rules

[frank dune]

yeah cannot just type fast

[fierce pagoda]

wait a minute... did you just say "barrier"?

[frank dune]

yeah?

[fierce pagoda]

Domain expansion

[frank dune]

nuh uh

[fierce pagoda]

🔵 + 🔴 = 🟣

💥

[frank dune]

never said if barrier has any color

[fierce pagoda]

it looks like im too far gone for you...

[frank dune]

i am not into domain expansion stuff

[devout grotto]

Ok ngl yeah 😭

It's not super friendly towards anyone who's busy af

[devout grotto]

"It's morally correct to make fun of gacha games"

plays modern FPS games
plays games with lootboxes

Lmfao some of the people who say that are fucking hypocrites

[fierce pagoda]

"wait a minute... I only play games I actually like! Haha, heh.."

[devout grotto]

Honestly tho I was never into the gacha in gacha games

I only really cared for the story

[cloud ibex]

where you goin, fool? this is a perfectly good time to argue on the internet!

[devout grotto]

And it's good when you can clear content with characters you have built

[light linden]

random thing

do we know anything about azafure's founding?

[pliant ruin]

don't think so

[manic coral]

hi

you know i realized recently that permafrost is a great person to have talk about other parts of the world you'll never get to see in-game due to being on other continents

[wheat walrus]

"don't actually"

[cosmic zenith]

YEAH

I also want to write Traveling Merchant dialogue regarding that

[manic coral]

yeah i asusme you saw me talking about this stuff in lore disc on dev

[pliant ruin]

lore

[manic coral]

just generally tlaking about maybe what could be donme for worldbuilding for palces outside of the in-game worldspace

[pliant ruin]

good thing u guys r doing that

because otherwise you might get a beastars situation 😭

(there is 0 indication of there being any sort of world beyond the city the story takes place in and events in that specific city are treated as worldwide events...)

[manic coral]

yeah i've been looking for excuses to tlak about other places in the world for a while

it's just something that's sometimes hard to find an actual place to talk about

i wanna have Permafrost, the Bandit, and Calamitas talk about that sorta stuff a bit

Calamitas being the one character who has been off-continent during much the time the game takes place so being a very good person to ask about stuff like

actually learning vaugely up-to-date information about how stuff in the world is going as of the time the game is taking palces

[pliant ruin]

bandit relevance yaay

[manic coral]

yeah i want the bandit to be the first person you come across who actually properly kinda talks about stuff going on elsewhere in the world

[tropic oak]

[river python]

la ruga is coming for us

[tropic oak]

cei did the dragons celebrate christmas and exclaim with holiday cheer

[real silo]

Jesus is god and dragons don't like gods

So no the dragons would be quite unjolly

[cosmic zenith]

You know how Chrysadia is further south

I plan to give those Critter Contest Azure Envoys actual messages (sometimes) you can collect

And they'd operate on a list-based entry system, like Rain World's blank pearls

So you'd be able to read what the Chrysonai have been up to

The territory surrounding Chrysadia

Weaver's whereabouts/movements

And so on

It'll be fun to write for

[dusk laurel]

Wait that's so based

Messenger birds

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah!

I'm really thankful to that submission

Rain World blank pearls are so underrated because they have randomized text

But they have really awesome lore drops

Like ||Subterranean construction workers getting "restless nights filled with disturbing dreams, where millions glowing starsmove menacingly in the distance" (dreams of the void)||

Or ||Citadel denizens being really fucking pissed off that Pebbles was being built above their holy temple||

[surreal gulch]

Reminds me of that one game called Battle Cats where you can send a cat on a journey and it gives you randomized messages about like obeying traffic laws or just some random stuff. But I love that idea it sounds so cool.

maybe you can put modifications or something kind of like the code breaker upgrades so you can get even more knowledge about the world around you.

[spring helm]

wuh

i thought she was just in a hole somewhere in the Heartlands ngl

[split mortar]

Don’t think it was specified that it was heartlands

[spring helm]

she really crossed the ocean to pick a fight with us that's crazy

[dusk laurel]

"Square up chump"

[split mortar]

I doubt it’s much to her, just fly at a high speed in a silly bubble with some rations and water then boom across in a week or something

Actually prob less then a week

Prob more like a day or something idk

Still, traveling that distance wouldn’t be much of a problem or a heavy toll on her I imagine

[light linden]

hmm

hey do we know how old the giant mahogany tree is?

[split mortar]

Don’t think there’s lore in it? If there is then it’s prob just a tree grew by a tribe or something idk

[dusk laurel]

It might even be removed

[split mortar]

Oh whar

[dusk laurel]

If the devs decide to act on the giant hive dilemma

[split mortar]

Anyways it’s 2:15 so ima go now bye chat

Am

[dusk laurel]

Byebye

[crystal pendant]

whats the giant hive conundrum

[dusk laurel]

Basically, Calamity adds a large bee hive to the world, but it just doesn't really make much sense and is only useful as like a better QB arena

[frigid sage]

Why does it not make sense?

[light linden]

personally I like it

gives more to the surface jungle when it's largely forgettable

[pliant ruin]

i mean i don't really see how it dosen't make sense

it's a giant hive but

giant-er

[soft geyser]

Poltergeist is the souls of all dungeon spirits right?

[pliant ruin]

not all

but alot of them

[light linden]

actually

do we know if auric dragons or any of the gods could use life crystals?

[soft geyser]

Alright good enough because I needed that for my song for poltergeist

[sinful adder]

I don't see why they couldn't

[stuck hawk]

that isnt battle cats

[soft geyser]

Hi

[sinful adder]

Hi?

[soft geyser]

Fuck he forgot me

[devout grotto]

Yeaj

[untold oracle]

Lore.

[brisk gale]

Brimstone elemental is actually supreme calamitas's mother

[calm patio]

source: i made it the fuck up

[gritty kraken]

Providence is yharim sister

[frank dune]

hello

[simple dove]

hoi

[split mortar]

Hi

[split mortar]

It’s the gamatoto quests I think they’re referencing

[untold oracle]

What does Yharim think of Avatar of Emptiness (boss of Noxus (boss of DoG))

[mighty zenith]

"who the fuck is this"

[faint plank]

those who know

[mighty zenith]

snoze who lose

[strange stump]

"the fuck is this?"
"the fuck is that?"
...
"the fuck are those?"

[indigo glade]

"ooohhoohohohoh"
"ohohohohohohohoh"
"ahahahahaha"
"AHAHAHAHAHAHA!"

[strange stump]

👏 👏 👏

[indigo glade]

"master?"

[gritty kraken]

What if terrarian call ares Mega skeleTron prime in front of draedon

[strange stump]

"Ares weighs 500 skeleTons."

[indigo glade]

Skeletron Irrational.

[strange stump]

a dumb pun that came to my head

[untold oracle]

Skeletron NEO

[untold oracle]

Do you kill Catastrophe and Cataclysm for good or can Calamitas just summon and respawn them at will

[gritty kraken]

is the rematch canon or was it just for gameplay

referring to caltas

[split mortar]

The scal refight is canon
So they can be resumed as many times as you want without problems

[gritty kraken]

Scal be playing with her brothers ashes

[untold oracle]

Is Chrysadia still around?

Or is it gone like Azafure and Ilmeris

[split mortar]

Considering storm weaver eats its ruins

I don’t think it’s around anymore

Especially since it got fovos’d first

[untold oracle]

Ah, shame

I gotta think of some civilization/nation to be located out of the continent

We know nothing about the crystal city or what was that

[split mortar]

We know it having a lot of gems is kinda wacky since gems are rare

Wonder if shakidou had a kingdom or anything

[untold oracle]

The feared math city

[indigo glade]

Make one.

[untold oracle]

Yeah exactly

[manic coral]

It was called the crystal city because it became a famous place to trade and get your hands on crystal meth

👍

Real 190% canon

[untold oracle]

Okay if it’s a trade nation it’s perfect for what I’m planning

[indigo glade]

Legally?

[split mortar]

Yes
The god of meth lived there trust me totally 274626% canon

[mighty zenith]

it was illegal but nobody enforced it because they were too high on crystal meth

[faint plank]

crystal meth is now cannon holy crap

[split mortar]

Yippee

[hoary berry]

i just got massive deja vu reading the last nine messages

[thick slate]

hello lore chat

i have a very important lore question

diameter of aquatic scourge

[devout grotto]

Oh damn this is the first time I heard of this nation

[dusk laurel]

Sky islands people

[devout grotto]

Oh I see I see

[light linden]

sky islands civilization under the direct protection of the auric dragon of storms

got literally shattered by the moon lord

[devout grotto]

Oh damn

[light linden]

we don't know much about it currently sadly

[dusk laurel]

Wdym

[light linden]

didn't a dev say that the sky islands were literal fragments of chrysadia?

[dusk laurel]

It wasn't 1 big sky island

It was a massive archipelago

[thick slate]

guys is aquatic scourge smart

[dusk laurel]

Fragments probably mean that it was a part of Chrysadia, it's not literal

[untold oracle]

I don’t think it is phenomenally smart considering how little need there is for it

[thick slate]

yea but like

smart or dumber then a dog

[untold oracle]

I literally thought you said DoG 😭

[thick slate]

no no

a literal dog

[untold oracle]

Yeah

Prolly no

[dusk laurel]

Probably dumber

[thick slate]

damn bro dumb

💔

[untold oracle]

Dogs are rather smart animals tho

[thick slate]

is aquatic scourge rizzful

[dusk laurel]

No

It's an animal

[thick slate]

aquatic

scourge

i have plans beyond comprehension

[untold oracle]

Lmao

[thick slate]

he dumb tho 💔

education aint cheap

why does aquatic scourge have lightning vulnerability

[light linden]

water

[thick slate]

oh real

thats stupid

[split mortar]

I think most things are weak to excessive amounts of electricity

[crystal pendant]

i would be too i think

[wooden blaze]

yo guys what the fuck EVEN IS Ashes of Annihilation

scal isn't dead so it's not like it's her literal ashes

[visual bane]

ashes from her battle

[wooden blaze]

no because we get it has a drop

[visual bane]

like the magic remains of her attacks

[fierce pagoda]

Its the essence of her smoldering wrath or something

[wooden blaze]

ok but then why the fuck isn't it all over the arena?

[wooden blaze]

ok but like...

[visual bane]

game design

[wooden blaze]

why is that just in a chest/

or well treasure coffin

[visual bane]

but lorewise after you defeated her

you just uhhh

collect the dusts

[fierce pagoda]

She neatly tied her rewards into a treasure coffer to surprise us

[wooden blaze]

so lorewise it's farmable if she just destories stuff?

[fierce pagoda]

she was feeling nice

[visual bane]

what's inside? ASH

[fierce pagoda]

The ash is supercharged with Calamitas branded brimstone magic

maybe

[untold oracle]

"Hey uhh I thought I could give you something as a reward… Here’s the essence of my emotional turmoil, this weapon working as an embodiment to my regrets, and also this cute little plushie I got from Dad a decade ago."

[crystal pendant]

and this weird giant sword that shoots skulls... and a knife... and a baton...

[visual bane]

and this...fish

[fierce pagoda]

And an arm

[mighty zenith]

and my axe

[split mortar]

And my brothers corpses

[sage berry]

What have I just stepped back into

[untold oracle]

Scal presenting you the contents of her surprise box

[sage berry]

What are the treasure Harley in terms of items? Are they real or purely a mechanic and were crafting these things?

What?!

Treasure bags*

Can I type this evening…

Idk how autocorrect even got that one

[crystal pendant]

terrarian has mad fast hands and just blacks out upon seeing boss corpse- the bags arent real
suddenly they just wake up, hands full of loot and covered in odd stains with no memory of making the loot items

compulsive crafter

the loot bags are actually a clever visual metaphor for treasure

[manic coral]

i'm not saying what it is but this is reb's reponse to something i began working on that she apaprently didn't think i was being serious about trying to do

[split mortar]

Alternatively

Everyone even wild animals carries treasure bags

[split mortar]

Hope that goes well and not disastrous

[manic coral]

actually know know what i will

i decided that if i'm going to have character tlak about the world outside of where cal takes place

i require some sort of visual reference for at least myself

so i am working on a calamtiy world map, for at minimum, personal use

[random mulch]

neat

[mighty zenith]

[split mortar]

Yoooooooooooooooooo

[manic coral]

i dotn want characters to say things about the world that end up not fucking making sense

[untold oracle]

Oh shit that’s awesome

[manic coral]

or would be a nightmare to map out

[mighty zenith]

i hope sweden is included,,,

[manic coral]

and i deiced that since you know i might wanna try this anyways

fuck it

also

[light linden]

hey cei can I please ask a question?

[manic coral]

problem: the terrain in-game is randomly egenrated

soltuion: hide the continent the game takes palce on with clouds

[untold oracle]

Oh yeah btw Cei is the actual name of crystal city a spoiler

[random mulch]

crystal city?

[manic coral]

leaving, at most, an implied shape

also i'd like to point out that due to how the world of cal works

there cant jsut be a surface map

there'd need to be an underground one as well

[split mortar]

So every possible seed is a canon timeline

[manic coral]

in theory, yes, if you wish to interpert it that way

[manic coral]

also what's up

[light linden]

what is infected armor plating made of?

[random mulch]

what's the crystal city

[light linden]

is it just metal gathered by the nanomachines or is it the nanomachines themselves?

[manic coral]

fuck if i know

[light linden]

I have literally lost sleep thinking about this

[light linden]

fair enough

[dusk laurel]

[light linden]

ty anyways

[split mortar]

Why a hognar to that?

[light linden]

I am a blacksmith irl, I think about these things more than I should

[dusk laurel]

Oh okay

That makes way more sense now

[untold oracle]

Some filthy rich city-state off continent that acts as a trade hub for drugs (If I’m correct)

[split mortar]

If I were to guess

Probably some decently strong mismatch of chemicals and materials made of common stuff found in most organic life

[sage berry]

As someone who likes keeping to the cannon of this world as best I can, I’d love to see something like an even semi-official map.

[dusk laurel]

Crystal exporter

[split mortar]

With the virus enhancing strength the thing is probably decently heavy

[untold oracle]

I’m likely gonna include them in the next chapter I’m writing

[wheat walrus]

WORLD MAPS 🔥🔥🔥🐲

[split mortar]

@omni

[wheat walrus]

brogh

[manic coral]

incorrect (maybe)

tbh given the dnagers of the lands i'd imagine most palces are kinda city-states

[devout grotto]

Taking note of this

[untold oracle]

Ah ok

[manic coral]

since like

slimes

zombies

etc

[sage berry]

Though if we’re counting every seed then every seed with every combination of secrets with things like “advanced world gen” all of the content mods at least… and all difficulties

[manic coral]

all of that presents massive logistical issues for widespread nations

[split mortar]

Slimes not really

[manic coral]

with the increased average danger in the world compared to our own

[split mortar]

Zombies can be blocked by basic walls

[untold oracle]

You brought up a good point

[devout grotto]

Yeah, they're probably just pests

[manic coral]

i cna only see a handful of actual full-on NATIONS existing

[untold oracle]

I gotta think about how the lands between cities are secured

[split mortar]

Demon eyes are actually probably one of the big threats

[split mortar]

Especially after yharim happened

[manic coral]

tbh i actually think that being case case is exactly why Yharim was so successful

there was very little in the way of large united fronts to stand against him

[devout grotto]

Bad internet I see

[dusk laurel]

Why did you send that message twice

[deft vessel]

Why is everyone repeating themselves

[split mortar]

Whar

:/

[untold oracle]

What do you mean

What do you mean

[split mortar]

Killing that message

[sage berry]

After long enough in fan stories I’m staying away from the main issue of who’s in the right. Does the player kill the gods in end game or not, is Yharim right to do what he does? ‘Cause we have little info

[manic coral]

since, again, it was mostly city-states, not full nations as we usual think of them

[split mortar]

Yharim is not in the right

[manic coral]

so he only ever really had to worry about a few cities opposing his forces at a time

[split mortar]

Player does shit is up to you

[devout grotto]

Ah fuck I literally have a bunch of full on nations in mind for my worldbuilding 😭

[dusk laurel]

[deft vessel]

Well ”none” was never stated

[devout grotto]

Ok but tbf they're made with vanilla Terraria in mind

[manic coral]

yeha no there were certainly SOME

[sage berry]

Multiverse? It’s what I deal with anyway all worlds that can happen do

[manic coral]

just not many

only a handful

[devout grotto]

Whatever I'm writing up in my stories are just AU versions

[split mortar]

Vanilla terraria I’m pretty sure is commonly even more dangerous

Since I’m pretty sure lore wise frost and pumpkin moon just happen randomly

[manic coral]

becuase running a nation in a world where zombies and demon eyes and massive acidic slimes and giant maneating monsters exist

[sage berry]

What?! I love that as a game mod it was in 1.3 I wish someone would bring it back

[devout grotto]

~~I'm gonna be making my own Terraria lore then 🏃 ~~

[manic coral]

like when things like Fishrons and Dragonfollies are a thing

[untold oracle]

I got several nations possessing fucking nuclear arsenals

[split mortar]

Mini nukes are shroomite tier in vanilla

[manic coral]

These creatures that when they attack are closer to natural diasasters than a monster attack

[devout grotto]

Seisai is a nation
Rivazzula is a nation

[deft vessel]

Now that I think about it ive only made city states

[manic coral]

one group keeping stuff together in a scale of thousands of miles is impractical for all but the most powerful groups

[devout grotto]

For my examples

[untold oracle]

I assume the Terrarian’s realm is absolutely busted considering they have CV (access to cosmilite) and a rare emergence of auric

[sage berry]

That only very few know how to use…

[manic coral]

and so generally it's better to consolodate power and keep things close

making city-states far more practical

[split mortar]

This is evident by the fact that it’s a pain to travel across the world ingame until like post evil 1 with how you can just die

[devout grotto]

So true!!!!!!!!

[sage berry]

Yes

[manic coral]

exactly

thoguh then again

[split mortar]

Wait
Pylons exist

[manic coral]

where the game takes palce is established to be like

[sage berry]

True

[manic coral]

even compared to everywhere else

fucked up

[devout grotto]

Oh wait yeah Rivazzula and Seisai are not part of the Heartlands

[untold oracle]

Yeah I have it that cosmilite is the material a lot of the military and other infrastructure use and auric is heavily experimental that only the terrarian themselves use

[devout grotto]

But also idk how dangerous it can be in other continents

[deft vessel]

If you think a about it life crystals must have been really rare since the most ”humans” we see are at 200hp

[split mortar]

Still we only cover a few kilometres in a large world

Imagine tens or hundreds

[manic coral]

less so than the heartlands on average

[devout grotto]

Aight, gotcha

[sage berry]

Then the power scaling of this timeline is likely stronger than most I’d suspect

[manic coral]

which is more of a title than an actual name to be clear

[untold oracle]

I mean Yharim’s army too had quite busted gear

[manic coral]

since you get to name the palce durign world generation

[deft vessel]

Are the heartland heart shaped

[manic coral]

i jsut need soemthing else for it to be refered as too

[pliant ruin]

hewwo

[split mortar]

Pretty sure everyone here is aware heartlands isn’t a ingame canon name

[sage berry]

Wasn’t that largely Draedon?

[untold oracle]

Haiii chees

[dusk laurel]

Haii

[pliant ruin]

Draedon made them yea

But

[split mortar]

Haiiiiii

[pliant ruin]

It was the yharmy that used it

[deft vessel]

Hai

[pliant ruin]

He provided them with weaponry

Wouldn't make much sense for Draedon to just stockpile a bunch of weapons around :p

[manic coral]

and calling it "the main continent" doesnt feel right because that makes it sound like that where the game takes place is The Only Place Anything Ever Happens

which is something i wish to avoid

[sage berry]

So I doubt that a normal army is anywhere near near Cosmolite tier yes?

Not I main

[untold oracle]

I still have a lot of worldbuilding to cover but I have the navy and coastal defence use cosmilite-tier equipment :P

[manic coral]

not even cobalt or palladium

in the vast majority of cases

[spare pier]

That's fucking insane ngl

[split mortar]

Platinum?

[spare pier]

Specially considering that Cosmilite IS NOT FROM OUR WORLD

[manic coral]

i'd say normal soldiers at best get stuff crated from Hellstone

[devout grotto]

Ok but like

[spare pier]

How did they have enough to fit those people with it?

[sage berry]

Yes it’s powerful

[pliant ruin]

Draedon himself could barely work with cosmilite

[split mortar]

Well their terrarian spends years and amasses a entire kingdom before fighting yharim so like

That’s prob how?

[untold oracle]

They do have access to the distortion though

[devout grotto]

It's Cosmilite*-tier* and not Cosmilite itself

[pliant ruin]

He only really used it for DoG's armor and that's it

[split mortar]

Ceaseless void:

[sage berry]

Then he found the prisms

[pliant ruin]

The prisms don't really have anything to do with cosmilite

[sage berry]

assuming you survive the trip

[untold oracle]

Okay I worded it badly I meant cosmilite

[devout grotto]

Ah 😭

[sage berry]

And the environment

[devout grotto]

Wait WHAT

[pliant ruin]

The strongest yharmy members whore arsenal t4 armor i think?

[devout grotto]

I never thought Lèa was this crazy wtf

[manic coral]

properly elite ones can maybe get the rare set of early-HM ore armor laying around made from redacted means. for more information on how stuff like cobalt and mythril and titanium was around before wall fo flesh, refer to page 2 of the Onyx Lab Log when SSO comes out

[split mortar]

That’s what “Lèa” does
Who is deltaw oc

[pliant ruin]

or arsenal t3

[dusk laurel]

t5 is gonna be like auric tier iirc so ye

[pliant ruin]

o oki

t5 is exo right?

[sage berry]

Exo I thought

[deft vessel]

In calamity is the goblin army a proper army or more of a warband

[pliant ruin]

I imagine goblins r more like nomadic raiders

[dusk laurel]

Exo is technically a t6

[pliant ruin]

ur standard run of the mill "faction that lives off stealing others loot"

t6??

huh

how many

[deft vessel]

So a warband

[pliant ruin]

tiers of arsenal armor are there

x_x

[crystal pendant]

that is such a cool thing to have written about

[sage berry]

Yeah the tier 5 is auric for weapons so

Kinda?

[devout grotto]

Meanwhile Aspen/Ayla (my Terrarian has a male or female version) just reconstructed an abandoned village

[dusk laurel]

Oh, I thought you were talking about the weapons

[random mulch]

arsenal armor only has 3 tiers and then exo armor

[manic coral]

where the goblins come from is fairly desolate and due to their natural tenacity a big part of their thing is having essentially for-hire armies

[spare pier]

t6 is not a thing the fuck you on

It's just Exo Armor

[manic coral]

given obviously not all of them do this

i mean

look at the goblin tinkerer

[split mortar]

Making us wait for more so I see

[manic coral]

but is is a notable thing

[untold oracle]

Yeah she ended up having multiple major settlements and the crazy amounts of refugees made her have a really large population

[random mulch]

"tier 4" arsenal would i guess be exo armor

[dusk laurel]

Ye

[pliant ruin]

yeah so i imagine

[deft vessel]

Ok so I asume a warband

[pliant ruin]

high-tier yharmy members would wear t3 arsenal

[random mulch]

ye godseeker knights

[manic coral]

yeah that was the stuff Godseeker Knights used

[pliant ruin]

yup

makes sense

[dusk laurel]

I thought we were talking about the weapons

[spare pier]

I think that if you were really fucking goated you'd use T4 weapons but that's like

Legit 3 people

[manic coral]

Man imagine how strong The Destroyer would be if souls retained their strength from when they were alive

[split mortar]

Post ml boss right there

[pliant ruin]

who's the devourer of gods now. bietch

[spare pier]

I always like thinking about some Godseeker Knights which could go toe to toe with the strongest Gods because those people would fill the power vacuum between normal Godseeker Knights and DoG

[manic coral]

i mean i feel like fundemntally to get the title "godseeker"

you'd have to kill a god

[split mortar]

Isn’t the strongest gods above DoG

[manic coral]

like i've always felt like that's the requirement

[split mortar]

So we become a godseeker after queen slime

[random mulch]

tier 4 arsenal weapons are on the same tier as tier 3 armor

[spare pier]

Yeah but a God ranges from Slime God to Providence

[split mortar]

Shakidou

Actually

Xeroc

[untold oracle]

Seriously who is this mystical Xerox

[spare pier]

Naturally the Godseeker Knights should also have some pretty big power variance between them

[hybrid barn]

Wait, does that mean Providence is second to Xeroc?

[spare pier]

Of course not

[manic coral]

ye

i've always iamgine there's

[spare pier]

I'm talking about the two you see ingame

[deft vessel]

Like the final part of the initation would be to slay a god

[split mortar]

Enough typos that autocorrect is putting xerox over xeroc

[manic coral]

even if not a fromal heiarchy

definitly some sorta informal heiarchy of power

[hybrid barn]

Okay, fair
I was just wondering, since it did feel possible for there to be a huge gap from second strongest to strongest

[random mulch]

wonder who the strongest godseeker knight was (not yharim, he's just the godseeker)

[manic coral]

obviously the strongest godseeker knight is yharim

but like

[sage berry]

A second in command or strength of sorts?

[manic coral]

honestly i havent thouhg too much abotu specifically other godseeker knights aside from one

or well

two

[spare pier]

Byeah I just think it'd be kinda awkward to have a massive power vacuum in Yharim's army between Godseeker Knights and DoG, plus it's just natural that there'd be a few individuals who were capable of fighting Gods like Providence

[manic coral]

and the second might never see the light of day

[manic coral]

yeah for sure

[crystal pendant]

is defeating queen slime ever gonna feel like something? it seems quite anticlimactic that there is no aftermath
or is it just because its quite weak and just leeching off the hallow at that point?

[untold oracle]

Now I’m wondering how a mining (pumping? Wasn’t cosmilite a liquid?) colony could be hidden in the distortion

[manic coral]

there will be a lil extra something in the future

[spare pier]

Yeah

[crystal pendant]

fun! i like that. the completion of the hunt needs it

[split mortar]

We fight slime gods hallowed core thing after queen slime dies

[manic coral]

i may end up havign to write a second Whisper for Queen Slime for it

in case you do something involving it

which would be fun

[split mortar]

Yharim on his way to yhap more on queensl slimes death then moonlords

[deft vessel]

But will LC ever get a whisper

[manic coral]

YHAP

LMAO

[trim edge]

if the player fights queen slime before slime god then what is queen slime

[split mortar]

Still slime gof

[manic coral]

Yharim already says all he wishes to say about him elsewhere

Polterghast's whisper says essentially anything a LC whisper would

[deft vessel]

👍

[split mortar]

Slime god just never fought you before being rated a 3/10 meal from the hallowed paladin

[manic coral]

one of those topics yharim is a bit reclucant to talk about

maybe permafrost and calamitas know a bit more...

[untold oracle]

Mmm, perhaps

[fierce pagoda]

wait what is LC again

im blanking

[split mortar]

Lunatic

Cultist

[fierce pagoda]

oh i see

i thought we just called him cultist for short

[split mortar]

Lunatic

Idk

[manic coral]

still one the sets of renames i'm most proud of

the Crimulan Paladin and Ebonian Paladin

[trim edge]

why did yharim take pows instead of killing everyone

[split mortar]

Rename queen slime

[manic coral]

who says he took pows

[trim edge]

doesn't feel very yharim to do that

[split mortar]

What’s a pow

Of prisoner of war

[manic coral]

prisoner of war

[dusk laurel]

Prisoner of war

[trim edge]

wait what is polterghast then

the souls of what

[fierce pagoda]

Its so funny to me how killing Polter would have taken Yharim less than a second, but he couldn't be assed to even make an effort to keep his allies

like damn bro

[light linden]

hey cei can I ask another question please?

[untold oracle]

I think he took the atheist rebels or whoever those were as pows

[manic coral]

people who stood agaisnt him who weren't nessesarily deity worshippers

[split mortar]

Still sounds like pows just not deity worshipper ones

[manic coral]

and anybody else the cult wanted in there i guess

[split mortar]

Wonder what the dungeon was used for before yharminarm appeared

[manic coral]

fair enough i guess they could still be called that

[fierce pagoda]

Maybe Yharim threw in a few Lizhards just for fun

[dusk laurel]

People still have their uses

Like getting intel out of them

And Yharim isn't that stupid

[split mortar]

Hopefully

[deft vessel]

”You saved yourself from your burning house instead of the picture of the magnificient, great king Zeratros. Its dungeon time for you”

[fierce pagoda]

Were Yharims soldiers paid well

[split mortar]

Probably

[untold oracle]

I think the higher ones maybe

Or maybe it was just all volunteers fueled by echo chamber

[split mortar]

Quoted

[manic coral]

oh for sure

[fierce pagoda]

Would you join Yharims army, assuming you were a capable warrior, and the pay was insanely good

[manic coral]

they were all treated really well

[fierce pagoda]

Damn, did Yharim cover housing and food for them?

and other stuff

[manic coral]

you know Messmer is a lot like Yharim which is funny because finally somebody who existed after Yharim that I cna compare him to

[deft vessel]

The Yhapaganda digs deep smh

[fierce pagoda]

I know that Yharim used to sometimes train with them as well

[light linden]

who is messmer?

[manic coral]

like you walk intoa cmap of Messmer's Soliders in SotE and unlike other soliders' encampments

what are fairly barebones

have like

[deft vessel]

Elden ring

[manic coral]

locht tents

dinner halls

pales of food, not jsut rations

[light linden]

ok ty

[manic coral]

proper beds

[fierce pagoda]

Wow, joining Yharims army doesnt sound like a bad idea

you get so many benefits

[manic coral]

yharim values loyalty and did treat those under him pretty god damn well

[untold oracle]

[deft vessel]

Other than you have to fight like the horrors

[untold oracle]

[split mortar]

Just like the frieza force

[manic coral]

exactly, that's the point

this is part of how Yharim won the propaganda war

[fierce pagoda]

I know what i would be if i was in the cal verse under the crusades

[deft vessel]

Gator has fallen for the Yhapaganda 😔

[untold oracle]

I would prolly be hella dead

[manic coral]

he effectivly presented himself as the better alternative, even if not always morally

from a practical personal standpoint

[fierce pagoda]

Good for him, he fought for what he believed was right👍

[dusk laurel]

The end of the world

[fierce pagoda]

Too bad his consequences caught up with him

[split mortar]

He appeared as morally better and if not that then appeared as the practical choice

[untold oracle]

Wow, I can’t believe how good of a guy Yharim was!

[fierce pagoda]

Can't just do as you like without facing the aftermath

[deft vessel]

Well a lot of other people have fought for what they belived in like H-

So that sound a bit weird

[split mortar]

[fierce pagoda]

He too, had to face the consequences in the end

[untold oracle]

Guys it’s not a war crime if you win!

[fierce pagoda]

America moment

[split mortar]

I swear the past like 4 messages could all be quote worthy

[manic coral]

Because, see, imagine you're a solider having to live off of rations and have a kind of ass boss. And then you learn that this army who has torn through hudnreds of city-states is coming for yours next. A spy is sent out, and comes back, and reprots what they see

and

Hold no

They're being treated so much better than you are

Standing out in the heat all day? Not when you have armor with regulated internal tempature.

[fierce pagoda]

Where did Yharim get all these resources from

[manic coral]

Rations? Not when you could have three meals on plates a day.

[split mortar]

Azafure I’m pretty sure

And draedon

[spare pier]

This funny guy called Draedon

[fierce pagoda]

Oh right Azafure

[split mortar]

And destroyer can dig

[fierce pagoda]

where the hell did dreadon get them from!?

[split mortar]

It’s repurposed digging stuff

[manic coral]

And as a bonus you wouldn't have to worry about being decimated by Yharim's army and almost certainly die

Because you WOULD be Yharim's army

[untold oracle]

The secret vault where he stores all his cobalt and titanium in

[split mortar]

Enough from yharim to cascade into whatever the fuck he is nowadays

[random mulch]

all of his digging equipment

[fierce pagoda]

Seems like the best thing to do during the crusades was to 1. be an atheist, and 2. move somewhere far away form any gods/civilization

[manic coral]

on a surface level, for moth oppposing soldiers

[fierce pagoda]

👍

[manic coral]

it was a choice of

1. Die a, due to the opposing side's advanced weaponry, a hopefully quick death

or

2. Rennounce your former loyalties and join something that'll treat you way better

[split mortar]

Advanced is an understatement

[spare pier]

Winning makes winning easier after all

[fierce pagoda]

Wait aminute, Gods in Calamity are real people who are just strong, but are there people in the cal-verse who believes in "gods" gods? like how we Believe in the Abrahamic gods in real life?

like gods that arent "here"...

uhh.. how do i say this without it being blashpemy

[manic coral]

Probably, but is probably wasn't popular

or common

[spare pier]

I get what you're saying

[indigo glade]

There was Astrum Deus.

[fierce pagoda]

No astrum deus isnt what im thinking of

since it is a real physical thing

[split mortar]

A omnipotent god?

[spare pier]

And yeah, probably but when there's an actual tangible figure standing there

[deft vessel]

”Bro Providence is totally not real and totally not coming to destroy us right this moment”

[manic coral]

ok fair when one side has platnium broadsword and the other has plasma rifles

yeah

[fierce pagoda]

Like the god Christians believe in

[spare pier]

And hey we kinda did the same with Kings