Damn I did not think you all would be this clueless
#lore-discussion
cosmic zenith
fierce pagoda
oh itsz eratros
cosmic zenith
YEAH
fierce pagoda
i figured it out
fierce pagoda
I was just wearing Yharon and Yharim tinted glasses
cosmic zenith
It's Zeratros if he was a Rain World Echo
indigo glade
I need you to send a GIF.
dusk laurel
Any second now
fierce pagoda
I figured out it was Zeratros by myself, Im so proud of myself
indigo glade
I figured out it was Zeratros by myself, Im so proud of myself
No, you said eratros.
indigo glade
I like the third to last line.
pliant ruin
<@1039460813490102293> I need your urgent help.
dusk laurel
Erra, erra, erra
What do these sounds mean
indigo glade
https://tenor.com/view/faust-gif-12478501275459632096
Thank you very much.
That GIF was vital to send my feelings to all.
fierce pagoda
Godseeker Agenda in the MUDDD
pliant ruin
Oh neat zeratros poem
cosmic zenith
Thanks!
pliant ruin
Nicely written and understandable too
dusk laurel
Xeroc haters are crying right now
cosmic zenith
Honestly, the ones I'm cooking up for Christmas are cooler.....
fierce pagoda
Will these be in-game
cosmic zenith
It's not a poem, it's dialogue smh....
fierce pagoda
or are they just here
fierce pagoda
so like they arent canon?
cosmic zenith
Zeratros is not, in fact, a Rain World Echo
pliant ruin
Zeratros realized he wasn't strong enough/capable enough at wielding his power to defend terrarian, so he allowed his auric soul to be absorbed so his power may live on through someone more capable
cosmic zenith
Yeah, they aren't
fierce pagoda
wow so it isnt confirmation that Zeratros gave up his soul willingly
pliant ruin
A wrath so intense it spared those guiltless.
A resolve so adamant not the Moon could crush.
This part is interesting though
gritty kraken
Honestly, the ones I'm cooking up for Christmas are cooler.....
Santa breaks into Permafrost house
pliant ruin
Well the latter seems obvious
cosmic zenith
What exactly implies he gave up his soul willingly, as in, to Xeroc
pliant ruin
Zeratros was determined to defeat Moon Lord
I am sacrifice.
My life is forfeit so my memory may endure.
fierce pagoda
I am safricice, i must give my sould so memory mode
indigo glade
This part is interesting though
I think the first sentence you quoted is talking about how Moon Lord was not attacking the civillians of places on purpose, only fighting the Auric Dragons.
pliant ruin
so my memory may endure
this part is kinda confusing then
because it really seems to suggest the entire
indigo glade
Just because Zeratros talks of sacrifice, does not necessarily mean he gave his soul to Xeroc.
pliant ruin
hes gonna die but his soul will live on etc
pliant ruin
fair enough
fierce pagoda
Regardless of what happened, Xeroc was feeling hungry for Dragon soul that day
light linden
so fun fact
I brought that lava cow message from rebecca to another server and they started ranting about the pogo stick nerf
real silo
The lava what message
pliant ruin
lava cow
indigo glade
I brought that lava cow message from rebecca to another server and they started ...
Who is this "they"?
light linden
The people in the other server
dusk laurel
Yharmy stimulants
spring helm
I wouldn’t be surprised if they did take stimulants from time to time
I’ve given it some thought, and I think I’m gonna go against the slimes in terraria being multicellular
No real reason as to why, I just think it would be cool
spring helm
Is fosvos a distortion being
no
spring helm
<@1039460813490102293> new mod encountered
that's cheese
soft geyser
that's cheese
Cheese has fucking mod since when
spring helm
last week i think
soft geyser
last week i think
How did she get it
spring helm
idk
hoary cape
Peak
muted igloo
high lynx
ok but where do i find dungeon lore
spring helm
not much lore about the dungeon rn
high lynx
AH
spring helm
the Dragon Cult built it on top of Ceaseless Void
high lynx
i need to check polterchan lore item
brazen coral
I think Yharim used it as a prison for those that opposed him, and left them in there to die. Their spirits make up Polterghast
spring helm
apparently whoever cursed the Clothier modelled skeletron after skeletron prime, so there's that
spring helm
there's this statement from Reb
high lynx
bro theres only one calamity bestiary entry about the dungeon
spare pier
Don't worry there will be a lot more in SSO
light linden
hi rebecca
high lynx
Don't worry there will be a lot more in SSO
YIPPPEEEEE
i may have to remove a part from my script then
hoary cape
Wait dungeon bestiary in SSO?
high lynx
But i shall not
manic coral
Don't worry there will be a lot more in SSO
i like how this statement applies to virtually anything lore related
spare pier
True!
high lynx
Oh now im getting re-hyped for SSO
dusk laurel
Wait dungeon bestiary in SSO?
A bunch of enemies
high lynx
im gonna have to revamp my lore
hoary cape
How are they dungeon related though
dusk laurel
Dungeon enemies
manic coral
vanilla enemy rewrites
hoary cape
Oh
high lynx
This freaking peaks
high lynx
I will wait as patiently as i can
manic coral
no more enmies at all ever in fact
this includes bosses as they are just more complex enemies
hoary cape
Dungeon has enough as it is
high lynx
is the stuff we know about Yharim gonna get changed significantly
because i know lore items are getting transfigured but i just dont know how much
light linden
argubly could do with a few less
hey cei you're writing stuff for permafrost right?
manic coral
ine33e
light linden
what
light linden
oh lmao
dusk laurel
Real
manic coral
is the stuff we know about Yharim gonna get changed significantly
nothing is ever changed
not since the initial rewrite
just added upon
hoary cape
Lore is done guys /j
high lynx
phew
hoary cape
It's over
light linden
you mentioned he's gonna get more dialogue, is any of it related to the astral infection?
manic coral
after the new writing team got together nearly two years ago now the first thing we agreed upon is no changing anything at all because
light linden
always wondered what the mages of calamity would think about raw mana turned into a blight
high lynx
so i can make a lore bite about Yharim at any point and i'll only have to update it to add new things and it wont be inacurate
manic coral
you mentioned he's gonna get more dialogue, is any of it related to the astral i...
yes
light linden
neat ty
manic coral
so i can make a lore bite about Yharim at any point and i'll only have to update...
that is correct for literally everything yes
high lynx
ok sick
manic coral
some WRITING might be changed to be made better but that's all
light linden
oh actually another question if you don't mind
high lynx
alright
manic coral
not actual INFORMATION changes
high lynx
im writing a lore bite script rn
hoary cape
I wonder who the first god yharim killed was
spare pier
The only "major" thing we'll be changing is Empress' stuff because it's
manic coral
just stuff like "hey cal dialogue while not inaccurate could be done better" and "hey draedon logs were the first thing i ever wrote, maybe i should go make an write them a bit better"
spare pier
Pretty bleh
manic coral
Actually we are very much willing to change stuff but not super major stuff
only minor things
becuase it comes into conflict with maybe other people's ideas and shit
light linden
I wonder who the first god yharim killed was
prolly one of the ones that ordered his death
I'd do the same
high lynx
some of the first were the evil biome ones
spare pier
Like, the only three things we discussed actually changing was
high lynx
"having slain my first gods"
eager bluff
just stuff like "hey cal dialogue while not inaccurate could be done better" and...
resisting the urge to say it
hoary cape
I mean did the gods even order his death or did the servants of them just go ight how dare you say no yeet
spare pier
Empress, Baby Cannonball Jellyfish's entry, and a few Offshoots
eager bluff
I mean did the gods even order his death or did the servants of them just go igh...
we dont know
light linden
Empress, Baby Cannonball Jellyfish's entry, and a few Offshoots
hoping some day we can use the jellyfish as ammo
eager bluff
guess whats happening in sso
dusk laurel
It's already been implemented
light linden
(I'm not a sadist I swear)
high lynx
like vector's squid launcher?
dusk laurel
In sso yeh
spare pier
Empress, Baby Cannonball Jellyfish's entry, and a few Offshoots
The Baby Cannonball Jellyfish IS being changed mind you
eager bluff
we dont know
yharim is contender for worlds most unreliable narrator especially in relation to this
spare pier
I wrote it and used it to imply something that literally no one on the team agreed on
light linden
yharim is contender for worlds most unreliable narrator especially in relation t...
I can think of much worse
high lynx
i like the unknowns in having a crappy narrator
spare pier
So I consider that more a blunder on my part than an actual retcon
manic coral
i will say it was fun making Yharim unreiably but not too unreiable so people can argue on what parts are the true parts
high lynx
draedon is a better info provider but he has less biases imo
manic coral
eager bluff
draedon is a better info provider but he has less biases imo
draedon is really good with technical details
high lynx
bestiary is the least biased but yharim is still the best source
manic coral
the downside of draedon is, there's a lot he doesn't pay attentiont to because he doesnt care
high lynx
bc every boss has a lore item
manic coral
what he DOES know, he's a very reliable source on
eager bluff
i envision his lab notes like scp testing logs
manic coral
one of the most reliable
high lynx
but draedon only has inquiries on a few bosses
spare pier
Though I still want to rewrite Plantera's, Ravager's and Weaver's Lore Items because as I have stated before
hoary cape
Yharim isn't the best source all of his opinions are biased smh
manic coral
but he just doesnt give a shit about a massive amount of things
meanwhile yharim is the opposite
high lynx
biased sources tell more of a story though
manic coral
he's kind of unreliable but has opinions and thoughts on jsut about everything
manic coral
and what he says isn't entirely false. it's just abotu figuring out and deciding what the true parts are.
spare pier
Though I still want to rewrite Plantera's, Ravager's and Weaver's Lore Items bec...
They were implemented at a point where no other sources were available, meaning that Yharim had to paint a figure of what was going on. This in turn makes him seem just really fucking stupid when he claims some stuff that turns out to be just blatantly untrue
eager bluff
i envision his lab notes like scp testing logs
as in instead of saying the subject pisses shits and throws up all at once he would say "Subject exhibits severe signs of distress"
spare pier
So I wanted to change them to follow more of a "I am not sure what these are, but I think I know enough to make an assumption"
manic coral
They were implemented at a point where no other sources were available, meaning ...
i mena yharim was a politician effectively
hoary cape
I want to believe that the gods didn't take the dragons auric souls without permission lol and I am hoping that is the truth eventually. Now does that mean the gods are all good no because some are probably absolute jerks lol
manic coral
politicians are great at spouting incorrect information with 100% confidence
high lynx
also if the bestiary had a voice, what would it be
hoary cape
Provi for instance is bad
light linden
So I wanted to change them to follow more of a "I am not sure what these are, *b...
reminds me of the draedon goozma entry (yes ik that isn't canon)
high lynx
also if the bestiary had a voice, what would it be
i need to know for science
eager bluff
also if the bestiary had a voice, what would it be
morgan freeman
high lynx
interesting take
hoary cape
David Attenborough
eager bluff
or david attenborough
manic coral
Provi for instance is bad
Kills evil dragon
Consumes it's soul
Uses it to be ten times worse somehow
light linden
politicians are great at spouting incorrect information with 100% confidence
confidence is 80% of the job after all
spare pier
politicians are great at spouting incorrect information with 100% confidence
Yeah but I think Yharim saying he is not 100% sure gives him more credence towards the player. Like, yeah I'm sure he'd tell a bunch of lies to his followers because they wouldn't care about the truth or not
light linden
> Kills evil dragon
> Consumes it's soul
> Uses it to be ten times worse somehow
been wondering
spare pier
But considering he's trying to, at the bare minimun, get on the good side of the Terrarian
light linden
was the flame dragon weaker than providence?
eager bluff
objectively yes
hoary cape
> Kills evil dragon
> Consumes it's soul
> Uses it to be ten times worse somehow
So this is confirming that provi actually killed the dragon she got the soul from
manic coral
deity provi, yes
spare pier
She had three people helping her and she almost died 
hoary cape
I wonder if that's the case for all the gods though
eager bluff
well actually it depends
high lynx
most dragons arent weaker than people because they are dragons
manic coral
normal pre-provi provi, no
spare pier
Providence now is obviously stronger
light linden
been wondering what would happen if someone stronger than a dragon consumed its soul improperly
eager bluff
if its post or pre ascension the matchup changes quite a lot
light linden
makes sense
hoary cape
Provi and slime god both got the short straws when it came to how their deity forms ended up lol
They did not get humanoid forms at all
manic coral
i mean a god can definitly be weaker than thedragon who's soul they absorbed
hoary cape
At least provi is cool looking
eager bluff
They did not get humanoid forms at all
provi is humanoid
high lynx
well provi doesnt have legs but i mean she does have a face
spare pier
I actually think Ascension's powerboost is a more complex formula but I prefer to not give exact numbers
hoary cape
That is not humanoid
hoary cape
It's a rock butterfly there is nothing humanoid about that
high lynx
you've never looked closely at provi
spare pier
Providence isn't humanoid she just has vaguely human features
The body shape somewhat looks like a limbless human and she has a face
high lynx
yeah im looking at it rn
dusk laurel
Providence invested into the wing economy
high lynx
and her wings are just fire
eager bluff
Providence invested into the wing economy
post ml grindset frfr
spare pier
I don't think I mentioned before but like
high lynx
elysian wings
spare pier
Yeah people don't get to choose how they look like after ascending
eager bluff
kid named [[Elysian Wings]]
pliant islandBOT
spare pier
But it's not just
hoary cape
Yeah people don't get to choose how they look like after ascending
Except xeroc
But that's because he can shape shift lol
high lynx
how come silva is just a lady
eager bluff
xeroc is a special case
spare pier
Consume Soul > Slowly metamorph into whatever the fuck
high lynx
or is the concept art pre ascencion
spare pier
how come silva is just a lady
She can also shapeshift
high lynx
oh
spare pier
But in her case it's a lot more direct
eager bluff
plant
spare pier
Xeroc can do some light bullshit
high lynx
can she turn into a deer
spare pier
She can legit just shapeshift
high lynx
can she turn into nokotan
spare pier
Which I think is a given considering she is, y'know
eager bluff
she can turn into a deer shaped tree probably
spare pier
The motherfucking Elemental of Nature 
eager bluff
from what i remember yeah
hoary cape
Lol he didn't deserve to die
spare pier
God of Sacrifice's personality in general is still up to debate
I have a general idea of how I think he was but I prefer to not disclose too much
eager bluff
ooh i had no clue which god it was
the bestiary straight up tells you
hoary cape
Is ravanger staying as ravanger for the name or is it getting it's god name lol (unless that is it's god name)
high lynx
i havent read the ravager bestiary
eager bluff
god of sacrifice absorbed dragon of death
high lynx
well ravager is a fricked up version
eager bluff
Is ravanger staying as ravanger for the name or is it getting it's god name lol ...
its staying as ravager afaik
eager bluff
it isnt the god of sacrifices that ship has long sailed
hoary cape
Will we know it's original name though
spare pier
Probably
high lynx
ravager is the result of dark magic
eager bluff
yes it is necromancy
spare pier
But we have yet to choose a name for the guy
high lynx
is the ravager magic the same as the scal magic
eager bluff
no
high lynx
why not
hoary cape
I wonder if those random warlocks were the ones who revived it
eager bluff
scal uses necromancy but she is primarily brimstone
ravager got necromanced
high lynx
they are both necromancy from some version of love iirc
dusk laurel
Necromancy is already imperfect
high lynx
so the spell that brought back ravager could be the same class of magic as the ones that brought back cataclism and catastrphy
spare pier
I know it's really funny how I got into Cal and just
eager bluff
when using magic that isnt brimstone from what i remember scal is very brute force with it
spare pier
Officially implemented a lot of the shit I wrote on the Lore Doc when I held it
eager bluff
when using magic that isnt brimstone from what i remember scal is very brute for...
as in she cant really get the finesse of it but shes really strong so she can force the square into the circle hole
hoary cape
Scal tried to bring her brothers back which isn't going to work. Ravager is just a reanimated corpse with nothing from its previous life outside of the body
It's different
gritty kraken
so the spell that brought back ravager could be the same class of magic as the o...
I think they’re same kind of magic because uhhh both might be originated from azafure but idk
hoary cape
It's the difference between raising the dead and trying to actually revive someone
Necromancy
Could be those random warlocks in the dungeon and crags
Maybe they did it
high lynx
Well ravager was dead iirc
hoary cape
How did scal's brothers even die in the new lore
high lynx
I think one was an assassin?
gritty kraken
Scal nuke I think
high lynx
And both tried to protect her and keep her away from killing and stuff
eager bluff
from what i remember it isnt elaborated on
more of how they were when they were alive
high lynx
Yeah
spring helm
Dragon + Human
“Our power isn’t just added together, but greatly multiplied!”
Fusion dance should be added to calamity
real silo
What if the ritual is just a breakdance competition and the winner gets to decide to ascend or not
Surely xeroc had some mad breakdancing skills compared to old man zeratros
spare pier
Xeroc, I'm dying, stop beatboxing
spring helm
"[Xeroc], my loyal monk, my end is near. Take my soul, else its power disappear forever. I shall teach you the moves to do so."
"You mean like the moves to a ritual?"
"No, hold on let me get my speaker"
spring helm
they ripped off Moon Lord's legs, he can't breakdance anymore 
real silo
The real reason fovos was so strong was because his many tentacle legs allowed him to pull off insane shit
Dragons had no chance
light linden
xeroc would be pissed if he saw this convo
mighty zenith
xeroc would be pissed if he saw this convo
would this count as history erasure
deft vessel
Would it be correct to asume that the way you mutate after ascencion depends on how hard you fuck up the ritual
scenic olive
The real reason fovos was so strong was because his many tentacle legs allowed h...
any character that does have legs in calamity are indeed strong
legs are the symbol of strength ahh
spring helm
Would it be correct to asume that the way you mutate after ascencion depends on ...
Idk about that, Xeroc’s very different post-ascension
untold oracle
Maybe he wanted to look cool
proven rivet
Would it be correct to asume that the way you mutate after ascencion depends on ...
Fairly sure that perfect rituals result in stronger gods, which can also return to their human form at will.
primal bluff
Leg based powerscaling
split mortar
Would it be correct to asume that the way you mutate after ascencion depends on ...
To my knowledge xeroc was mutated just not much
So I doubt how much you fuck up is the only factor
untold oracle
Who is this Xerox
real silo
not to be confused with ceroc
split mortar
Who is this Xerox
Fucking autocorrect
split mortar
not to be confused with ceroc
:(
real silo
ceroc gun
real silo
Xeroc just looks like the quranic description of jibril (otherwise known as gabriel)
simple dove
Xeroc ascension is many winged angel but replace wings with legs
blue star
visual bane
what the fuck lumi appearance
shrewd yoke
Is there an easy to way to get into the lore? it sounds interesting but i am not sure on where to start
cloud ibex
google doc in the pins has everything in-game at the moment i think
but the gist of it is r/atheism moderator and dragon fanboy gets mad at all gods because he didn't like being told what to do and Literally The Most Biased Dragon In Existence Ever told him "all gods suck ass and should die"
shenanigans (genocide and various war crimes) ensue
pliant ruin
why
wheat walrus
ngl this should be gfb yharim
faint plank
thats not sigma
wheat walrus
thats not sigma
cloud ibex
omni
deft vessel
It was only a matter of time
faint plank
is he gonna be smitten
wheat walrus
is he gonna be smitten
na
cloud ibex
not yet
pliant ruin
17/12/2024 the omni chud copypasta incident
wheat walrus
yall be calling it an incident is crazy
pliant ruin
i could literally win
cloud ibex
it's not an incident it's just like why
faint plank
not skibidi
pliant ruin
an event or occurrence.
by all means this is an incident
it is an event, or perhaps an occurence
cloud ibex
i mean yeah but calling it an incident implies to me that it's particularly noteworthy
pliant ruin
i didn't expect to see chud copypasta when looking at lore discussion but other than that its not really a big deal
cloud ibex
yeah
wheat walrus
pliant ruin
it just kinda gave me whiplash
pliant ruin
chud
wheat walrus
What happened
moderators mad over yharim chud 🙏
untold oracle
Murder imminent
pliant ruin
c
cloud ibex
no
faint plank
mreow
cloud ibex
doing something stupid once isn't grounds to be nuked
pliant ruin
miau
cloud ibex
otherwise i woulda been ages ago
pliant ruin
ive done worse than chud copypasta
never forget when i got drunk as fuck and started playing NGO in lore chat
wheat walrus
what even is ngo
pliant ruin
i was posting screenshots while streaming it on sscls
faint plank
needy girl overdose
sounds like yuri
wheat walrus
i was posting screenshots while streaming it on sscls
that's sscls not lore discussion
pliant ruin
it isn't actually it's just mental illness
pliant ruin
that's sscls not lore discussion
yes its both
because i was posting screenshots here and streaming in sscls
wheat walrus
yes its both
more sscls
dusk laurel
I love lore discussion
visual bane
why are you sucrose
faint plank
untold oracle
The lorous lore discussion:
cosmic minnow
shrewd yoke
but the gist of it is r/atheism moderator and dragon fanboy gets mad at all gods...
LMAO thats really funny
cosmic zenith
I have a general idea of how I think he was but I prefer to not disclose too muc...
And I have some general design ideas 
I'll run them by Triangle, of course
I should probably start planning what to design next
cosmic zenith
Officially implemented a lot of the shit I wrote on the Lore Doc when I held it
TRUE
Snow Shrine was foreshadowing all along....
pliant ruin
Snow Shrine was foreshadowing all along....
otonilou is alive trust
the jellyfish inside the snow shrine 🙏
shrewd yoke
trully ideal
pliant ruin
I really hope god of sacrifices is somehow just straight up a good guy
It'd be really cool
cosmic zenith
Xeroc, I'm dying, stop beatboxing
(By u/Butterkatt on Reddit)
shrewd yoke
i dont know much about that character, but from the name alone i think a character who sounds like VERY much the evil god being instead just a chill guy would be really cool actually
cosmic zenith
Fairly sure that perfect rituals result in stronger gods, which can also return ...
The latter is incorrect
Gods cannot shapeshift in any way unless it's part of their domain (Xeroc using light magic to change his appearance, Silva using her Elemental powers to shapeshift)
pliant ruin
It dosen't mean "human sacrifice" necessarily
shrewd yoke
i have a soft spot for Hades like gods, they rule over a very ¨taboo¨ domain but ultimately its just misunderstood and they are genuinely not that bad
untold oracle
(By u/Butterkatt on Reddit)
Absolute peak
pliant ruin
Mayhaps GoS offered help, counceling, etc. with problems people had if they paid a small price in the form of a "sacrifice" which would be higher depending on what help they wanted, and it didn't necessarily have to be the sacrifice of living beings, it could also include giving up valuable objects or other possessions
also i imagine GoS would make sure that the "client" was sure that they wanted to go ahead with said sacrifice, making sure they understand the consequences and what the help they will get entails, rather than being the usual "trickster" god that would trick people in unfair/unjust deals for their own benefit
shrewd yoke
Mayhaps GoS offered help, counceling, etc. with problems people had if they paid...
no way, god of shimmer real.
pliant ruin
yeah basically theyre two sides of the same coin
one is actually fair and has their client's wellbeing in mind
the other one uh
faustian bargain moment
cloud ibex
your interpretation makes me imagine GoS and their followers being pretty ascetic and selfless
dusk laurel
why are you sucrose
Idk
pliant ruin
your interpretation makes me imagine GoS and their followers being pretty asceti...
It'd make sense with how they sacrificed themselves for, in their eyes, the greater good, too
even though said sacrifice didn't go well, unfortunately
untold oracle
Mayhaps GoS offered help, counceling, etc. with problems people had if they paid...
GoS forces the client to read through terms of service before signing it
dusk laurel
cloud ibex
faustian bargain moment
faustian rat bastard vs trade offer
real silo
Rebe said ravager is just the corpse but not the gos himself
Which makes me think that someone put some other soul into it
for necromancy
untold oracle
I think Ravager is just the fusion of GoS, GoB, and the cultists that performed the ritual
real silo
And since god of blood exists my theory is some kind of auric soul was put into gos' corpse
Which reanimated it into becoming ravager
pliant ruin
ravager having two auric souls is crazy
dusk laurel
https://tenor.com/view/faust-limbus-company-limbus-company-friday-faust-gif-7152...
Fause
primal bluff
Bloodbank
pliant ruin
i mean yeah there isnt really anywhere to put god of blood in
and its canonically a god that Exists so
glacial rampart
https://tenor.com/view/faust-limbus-company-limbus-company-friday-faust-gif-7152...
who is this
real silo
Even though I have no doubt that GoS could well be stronger than provi when he was alive
pliant ruin
faut 👍
untold oracle
I imagine GoS and GoB were friends before and after ascension and ruled as co-monarchs/gods/whatever, kind of representing balance between conservation and sacrifice
pliant ruin
yuh huh
shrewd yoke
Faust knows all lore
pliant ruin
faut 👍
pliant ruin
I imagine GoS and GoB were friends before and after ascension and ruled as co-mo...
Tbh i don't think GoB existed before Ravager
thick slate
https://tenor.com/view/faust-limbus-company-limbus-company-friday-faust-gif-7152...
its wednesday
pliant ruin
Unless a divine soul was put inside of ravager rather than a auric one
real silo
Do we know if divine souls even exist
afaik all god souls just degenerate into essence
pliant ruin
yeah thats the thing
untold oracle
Aren’t gods’ souls kinda merged to their essence
pliant ruin
divine souls do exist but when a god dies they just sorta
💥
so it mustve been an auric soul
in other words
god of blood wasn't a thing prior to ravager
which
therefore
implies ravager is the god of blood
dusk laurel
its wednesday
How are you in the future
real silo
maybe god of blood is a result of the residual soul of sacrifice/death/whatever
Mixed with the auric soul that becomes blood
thick slate
How are you in the future
superior timezone
shrewd yoke
lowkey obsessed with a GoS pet that does your taxes (he takes a cut though)
like i find really funny the first thing that has come through ny head regarding calamity lore has been a pet that does your taxes
i need to read that doc
if i ever decide to learn how to mod terraria i am making that my first project
primal bluff
Thatd be fun
gritty kraken
and its canonically a god that Exists so
This was a great time to click into this channel 📝
deft vessel
Is the god of greed a canon thing, a reference or a old lore thing?
cloud ibex
reference
split mortar
Probably then
spring helm
Red means health that’s why
untold oracle
When Yharim finds her
spring helm
she's the elemental of nature no? im pretty sure she can just shapeshift into raw flesh whenever she feels like it
now the better question is
why does she choose to look the way she does currently?
untold oracle
She wanna be pretpy :3
spring helm
by that i mean why a human-like, not a corpse. she didnt choose that
split mortar
by that i mean why a human-like, not a corpse. she didnt choose that
Because all elementals are woman looking idk
spring helm
the elementals should all be slimes fr
manic coral
she's the elemental of nature no? im pretty sure she can just shapeshift into ra...
i'd like to congratulate you on being one of the few people to ever think about something involving cal's lore and story that i haven't before
split mortar
Of course it was popcorn
deft vessel
I thought everybody thinks about raw flesh Silva all the time
noble niche
Lore
manic coral
lore
split mortar
-# lore
untold oracle
lorous
deft vessel
lore
untold oracle
Lot.
noble niche
Lorg
deft vessel
Glorp
noble niche
Splornch
untold oracle
Glorpcism…
mighty zenith
hoary cape
Lore moment
dusk laurel
Lore
mighty zenith
draedon canonically uses twitter
untold oracle
I meant in-universe.,
mighty zenith
untold oracle
draedon canonically uses twitter
He uses draebook
proven rivet
draedon canonically uses twitter
Shayy is Draedon real
split mortar
He uses draebook
Yharim has anti god and racist rants on yhitter
untold oracle
Yharim is a reddit mod
green bay
To think i once thought yharim was cool 😔
fierce pagoda
I still think he is cool
untold oracle
I don’t know is it good or bad writing that majority of new players see Yharim as a hero
Like are they informed enough that he’s spewing bs at you
fierce pagoda
Wait for the lore to finish, and maybe the consensus will change
untold oracle
Oh yeah the 30 minute slideshow when you enter the aerie
mighty zenith
I don’t know is it good or bad writing that majority of new players see Yharim a...
its good writing imo because you can piece it together if you just
piece together what he actually says and the bestiary
a big issue is that a lot of people dont read the bestiary and just take yharim's words as full fact
fierce pagoda
I think the issue arises when most of the fan base hear that Yharims whispers are called "lore items" making them mistakenly believe they are written by an unbiased author
wheat walrus
Shayy is Draedon real
Everybody is Draedon at this point
fierce pagoda
they think its the lore in its entirety, and not a part of the lore in the form of a lying bozo
untold oracle
And even then for example if I’m not paying attention enough I could read Cryogen’s entry and not be bothered by it
Unless I start to analyze the lore item and the bestiary entry
Which I doubt not that many people do
fierce pagoda
There is also the point that most of Cal players dgaf about the lore
and only know what they hear
on reddit and stuff
mighty zenith
echo chamber stuff
dusk laurel
red###
mighty zenith
its why a lot of old lore info is still so popular
people who havent played cal in like 4 years go back and talk about things that have changed since
fierce pagoda
what if old lore never happened
and current lore was the starting point
we would have no idea about stuff like brealor and Noxus i think
no Brealor would be known
But Noxus's name wouldnt be known
dusk laurel
Noxious gas
mighty zenith
what if old lore never happened
servants of the scourge wouldnt exist
hybrid barn
servants of the scourge wouldnt exist
Servants of scoog?
devout grotto
Imagine if Calamity had social media
Possible in my version of the world 
untold oracle
Oh yeah you had mobile devices
split mortar
There’s mobile devices ingame
untold oracle
Mobile devices in larger distribution I meant
devout grotto
Yep
I'm going more for a worldbuilding inspired by HSR
With all the fantasy stuff and having modern stuff like socmed at the same time
split mortar
Considering radars and stuff are easy to come by
I’m sure most cities have atleast ww1 level tech
devout grotto
Yeah that seems plausible
untold oracle
I’m thinking of a chapter about the army and navy of Léa’s kingdom, maybe contact with other realms on other continents too?
cosmic zenith
Hello Cei
devout grotto
I’m thinking of a chapter about the army and navy of Léa’s kingdom, maybe contac...
👀
manic coral
yeah it wasn't like dark ages era tech level before draedon came along. stuff like eletrical lighting existed even if it was only probably in cities and they also had basic firearms and explosives and stuff like that.
split mortar
yeah it wasn't like dark ages era tech level before draedon came along. stuff li...
What’s with muskets being so damn strong then?
deft vessel
The four nations lives in darkenss. Until one day Draedon made tech
untold oracle
What’s with muskets being so damn strong then?
Guns are pretty lethal yk
deft vessel
It just gives lead poisoning
cosmic zenith
Also consider that Draedon is a positive factor for the development of technology
devout grotto
With all the fantasy stuff and having modern stuff like socmed at the same time
Then again interplanetary (at the very least) travel is a thing there so
cosmic zenith
The scientific and industrial community around him benefits from his breakthroughs
devout grotto
Also consider that Draedon is a positive factor for the development of technolog...
Not to mention that it's is highly unlikely that there's absolutely no one that tried to reverse engineer his tech
deft vessel
yeah it wasn't like dark ages era tech level before draedon came along. stuff li...
Nah Draedon invented inventing and technology
untold oracle
I imagine with some special resistors auric rejection can be used as a power source
split mortar
Guns are pretty lethal yk
More lethal than getting stabbed by a person sized sword?
Especially a fucking musket?
devout grotto
Nah Draedon invented inventing and technology
Amatsumara vanishing into thin air
That's my god OC if anyone is wondering
untold oracle
God of smithing was it?
devout grotto
You could say that :O
split mortar
God of smithing was it?
A GoS?
devout grotto
Close to god of the forge anyway
deft vessel
GoS #3
devout grotto
Real
dusk laurel
We need a God of Stealing
split mortar
We need a God of Stealing
A goblin god 
dusk laurel
Gobbies...
devout grotto
A goblin god <:clueless:1064298508653432933>
deft vessel
Hmm how long of a message you would need to write to get smitten
split mortar
Hmm how long of a message you would need to write to get smitten
I have written to the character limit multiple times
untold oracle
Hmm how long of a message you would need to write to get smitten
Requiem preview right?
deft vessel
Req preview reached it 5 times
devout grotto
💔💔💔💔
untold oracle
Hey at least we won’t go offtopic! :)
dusk laurel
split mortar
Hey at least we won’t go offtopic! :)
We totally haven’t dragged the mods into the off topic convo and continued
split mortar
<:yea:1281344081414590565>
What’s with your name change vanillin
dusk laurel
Ya
sudden ruin
did you get my joke
dusk laurel
Ya
split mortar
Ya
sudden ruin
split mortar
<:chill:1078027878387691601>
🇬🇧
sudden ruin
iiio dont get it
spring helm
Draedon most definitely shares his research with others (so long as it's not classified), so i imagine other scientists are able to work off of what he's done
devout grotto
Yep
trim edge
i think draedon being referred to as a he kinda supports the idea of him being a consciousness transfer
since why would he need a gender
split mortar
i think draedon being referred to as a he kinda supports the idea of him being a...
Draedon doesn’t gender it’s just what everyone goes with in universe I think?
Though yeah consciousness transfer still most likely thing imo
wheat walrus
yeah it wasn't like dark ages era tech level before draedon came along. stuff li...
it was actually prehistoric tech before draedon dummy, Yharim's lore item on EoC briefly addresses that because of this, the average joe from some random village struggled to fend themselves from those creatures
swift badger
Dreadron carried
wheat walrus
me when I am so knowledgeable on everything that I know things not even the writers do
the writers don't know that within 3 years at most from now, there will be a massive lore rewrite comparable to From The Ashes update because most if not all of the previous writers had to either retire or suddenly disappeared for reasons that cannot be disclosed by me, as it would create problems far greater than calamity lore rewrites
they call me omni the way I am @wheat walrusscient and things like that
people of lore discussion, it's up to you to save the future or hwatever yappy yap yap sigma thing that can be said
spare pier
mighty zenith
just a week aw
spare pier
Anyways
wheat walrus
https://tenor.com/view/will-you-change-your-ways-or-will-you-weep-for-forgivenes...
I do not need to change my ways, for I will never have to weep for forgiveness to an audience of deaf ears either
wheat walrus
the writers don't know that within 3 years at most from now, there will be a mas...
I know the canon lore btw I talked with the devs and they say that this is the current plan for the lore
spare pier
it was actually prehistoric tech before draedon dummy, Yharim's lore item on EoC...
I mean, considering the Arm Dealers stuff which
Minishark is the strongest thing he can offer you
Which is a weapon that can deal with King Slime and EoC
So like
Yeah
The strongest weapon that is "easily" accessible to people who want to fuck around and kill monsters is a Minishark
wheat walrus
and kill what...
spare pier
dusk laurel
cloud ibex
speaking of the arms dealer i did have an idea for an explanation of why he gets a bigger inventory as the game progresses
spare pier
The strongest weapon that is "easily" accessible to people who want to fuck arou...
"Easily" because that shit is still expensive as all fuck
cloud ibex
(could probably work for other npcs just the example i thought of was the arms dealer)
wheat walrus
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/704694434964439071/1284577245796634675/ca...
Plesioth lore among many lores
spare pier
The average dude wouldn't have 35 gold laying around they could just spend on a gun
And then you'd need a shit ton of ammo
cloud ibex
the thought was that the arms dealer isn't from the Heartlands, he came here because he didn't want to get tracked by the authorities or whatever
spare pier
And also, IT'S PROBABLY ILLEGAL
pliant ruin
"Easily" because that shit is still expensive as all fuck
tbf
wheat walrus
The average dude wouldn't have 35 gold laying around they could just spend on a ...
the average dude is stupid man why don't they just go get the gold like we do :/
split mortar
"Easily" because that shit is still expensive as all fuck
Even then most people don’t have many life crystals and armour and accessories to fend just an eoc
pliant ruin
i think - yeah
cloud ibex
but since the Heartlands are dangerous, travelling there is expensive
cloud ibex
so he ended up having to sell most of his inventory to afford the trip
split mortar
And also, IT'S PROBABLY ILLEGAL <:hdflr:1216214022630936658>
It’s sold at day unlike illegal gun parts
pliant ruin
illegal gun parts are extra illegal, truly
wheat walrus
why is arms dealer dealing arms man
cloud ibex
and then as you progress the game you buy wares from him so he can afford to get more expensive wares to sell you
split mortar
why is arms dealer dealing arms man
That’s signus not mc guns guy
wheat walrus
That’s signus not mc guns guy
arms dealer is a fraud man
split mortar
Yes
wheat walrus
cant even do what he's named
spare pier
But like, yeah the strongest weapon someone could come across without directly endangering themselves is a Minishark, which is
1 - Expensive
2 - Probably illegal
3 - Needs extra money on ammo
wheat walrus
singus hardcarrying the arm dealing society
deft vessel
Even then most people don’t have many life crystals and armour and accessories t...
Or the skill
spare pier
And then they'd still need all of the extra gear to have a chance of killing
Motherfucking King Slime
pliant ruin
Also
If we're going from a in-universe perspective
I doubt everyone would even be able to properly use a minishark
Guns r hard to operate
spare pier
There is also that yeah
wheat walrus
jus get a glock
deft vessel
Or the skill
Most people probably dont spend their life fighting these bosses
split mortar
Yeah true
What would even change in lore if the canon difficulty was like
Expert death or more
spare pier
I have been wanting to make so you could find some NPCs around the game which would just be doing random shit ngl
Because I think that'd help a lot of people realize that, yes
You are goated
See all of these people who you found during your journey? Yeah, they either stagnated or fucking died
split mortar
And then there’s statis who is like
Casually post ml
pliant ruin
more roaming/non-town npcs would be nice
spare pier
No idea
pliant ruin
what would change is that uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
king lsime is now 50% harder to kill
:D
split mortar
Only thing I can think is triplets instead of twins
wheat walrus
king slime is a fraud can't deal slimeblight smh
split mortar
“Expert death or more”
pliant ruin
im blind
split mortar
Which iirc master death is above expert death
spare pier
more roaming/non-town npcs would be nice
I think there is even the possibility of exchanging them for the trillion recipes of items
Even if
Lava Charm's is staying there
Forever
Fuck the Lava Charm
pliant ruin
lava charm is one of the few that should be kept imo becasue its a bit too annoying to get
spare pier
It's SO FUCKING OBNOXIOUS
split mortar
Fuck the Lava Charm
Hey
The magma thing for melee can be shimmered into lava charm
dusk laurel
The bat population has been decreasing
spare pier
I heavily disagree with Shimmer being the excuse for removing recipes for shit like that
light linden
hi rebecca
split mortar
Hi
spare pier
Because I don't think Shimmer should even be that big of a thing in the game
light linden
hi melon and cheese
light linden
still wonder what would happen if you drank shimmer
spare pier
hi rebecca
Hi :D
spring helm
Yharim outright states that "heroes made names for themselves facing such monsters" when talking about the Eye of Cthulhu. The early game bosses are so strong to the average person that being able to slay one is enough to write your name into history
light linden
Yharim outright states that "*heroes made names for themselves facing such monst...
prolly local history
not global
eager bluff
still wonder what would happen if you drank shimmer
your stomach acid would transmute into aether brick or whatever its called
split mortar
not global
Yeah that’s killing things like Skeletron or slime god or wof
dusk laurel
hi melon and cheese
Wow okay, I will remember this
spare pier
Yeah, killing EoC wasn't enough to make you a fucking Braelor
light linden
your stomach acid would transmute into aether brick or whatever its called
that is immensely horrifying to think about, please never speak again
eager bluff
that is immensely horrifying to think about, please never speak again
you asked
spare pier
But like, before the Crusade if you managed to get to the level of the Mech Bosses
light linden
Wow okay, I will remember this
idk who you are
pliant ruin
hi melon and cheese
hii
spring helm
Yeah, killing EoC wasn't enough to make you a fucking Braelor
well yeah obviously Braelor is like Calamity's Heracles
dusk laurel
idk who you are
Vanillin
dusk laurel
Hihi
spare pier
But like, before the Crusade if you managed to get to the level of the Mech Boss...
You'd definitely already be a figure worthy of being in a history book depending on what you did
split mortar
They became “jolly” by becoming an addicting thing
eager bluff
i could have said it would transmute your entire stomach and digestive system into the aether slimes
so yeah dont drink the change everything that it touches liquid
split mortar
You'd definitely already be a figure worthy of being in a history book depending...
When would you say continental to world wide known occurs
I’m aware ml is definitely when but earlier?
I would think slime god or wof
spare pier
Depends, really
spring helm
Draedon became a myth by spying on people
spare pier
Like, if you kill a big ass fucking monster that is as strong as Brimmy? Yeah, you'd be recognized as immensely powerful but not necessarily as a hero
pliant ruin
Draedon is literally a cryptid and i think thats funny
spare pier
Now if you killed a God that was roughly as strong as Plantera who was threatening to fuck shit up very badly, yeah
It entirely depends on what you accomplish, really
light linden
hey rebecca can I ask another lore question?
spare pier
Sure
spring helm
600 year old fairy tales be like
"Don't go out past midnight into the woods or Draedon will look at you"
eager bluff
isn't shimmering NPCs canon anyway
probably
but thats when they get nearly completely submerged
if only part of you touches it then we dont really know what happens but the answer is probably nothing good
and also it doesnt get in their digestive system
eager bluff
at least not in a meaningful capacity
light linden
ok ty
split mortar
Illmeris would have had to have magic stuff help the humans
So adaptations were prob less needed
light linden
ngl though
I feel like people who lived in illmeris for long enough could prolly see better in water
pliant ruin
ya prob
thats sort of a natural response to things, like how if u spend enough time in the dark u will see things better
split mortar
Same happens in light areas aswell
Spend time is very bright places and you permanently start seeing worse
snow mountain
does the distortion have shrimp?
dusk laurel
We don't know, but unlikely
snow mountain
it has to have shrimp
light linden
it'd be convergant evolution
pliant ruin
developer: hi the distortion has shrimp
light linden
not directly being related to shrimp
spring helm
Distortion pseudo-shrimp
pliant ruin
distortion dog
spring helm
Silva transforming into a dog to fuck with Braelor (he's afraid of dogs): 👩 🪴 ➡️ 🐶
snow mountain
silva had it coming
spring helm
@spare pier you mentioned once that auric rejection is a buildup of charge released all at once. Does that mean that someone who wasn't attuned yet strong enough to tank it (like say, Braelor) holding on to a bar of auric would see the metal rhythmically discharge?
spring helm
okay so like
if you held on to auric
would it continually reject you
or like does it come in waves
spring helm
like how an electric fence isn't electrified constantly but instead runs a current through based on timing
snow mountain
its like asking if the sunken sea is wet
spare pier
I think it'd come in waves but they are separated in very short intervals
split mortar
Getting rejected at the rate of megalovania
spring helm
alright i tried remaining in contact with auric in-game to see what would happen
i can't even do it
split mortar
It just rejects you every frame
spring helm
i stacked as much knockback immunity as i could and it still threw me across a mountain range
split mortar
Don’t think it hits you with normal kickback
Think it’s like the mutant sword kb
You just get flung no matter what
spring helm
i just watched a goldfish walk over auric
and not die
oh only npcs and dummies are affected
green bay
Nah that goldfish is just strong af
split mortar
And golf balls
violet sparrow
everything but what’s convenient isn’t worthy
split mortar
Become eggcord
dusk laurel
Limbus company
ruby heart
Edward scuttler
olive schooner
Devourer of devourer of devourer of gods
pliant ruin
El sleepus cheeses
Who is your favourite character in calamity
john wulfrum....
jk its probably calamitas
pliant ruin
i'm excited for other characters like perma and amidias to become more fleshed out
they don't have much rn
hot valve
Yeah that sounds really cool
I really like Statis, at least what we know
I’m excited to have him in the game eventually
tidal tulip
i feel like if the lorewriters for some reason decided to co author a book together i'd definitely read it
devout grotto
i'm excited for other characters like perma and amidias to become more fleshed o...
Same
spring helm
what if providence was smaller than her guardians
hoary cape
Getfixedboi get this done
visual kiln
p
untold oracle
Mreow
cosmic zenith
Short queen
faint plank
mreow
split mortar
No
dusk laurel
Mrrp
cloud ibex
Short queen
maybe that's why she ended up being such an asshole
all the hatred of a normal person got compacted since she's short
split mortar
Then why didn’t providence mellow out when she became beeg due to ascending
cloud ibex
it became magnified instead
cloud ibex
as her body was scaled up, so too was her hatred
split mortar
Dastardly
next sentinel
hey, I'm arguing with a friend about Calamity lore.
the topic of discussion is:
could Fovos (moon lord) wear some kind of armor when he was fighting auric dragons?
untold oracle
hey, I'm arguing with a friend about Calamity lore.
the topic of discussion is:...
We can’t know but I headcanon he had luminite armour back then
split mortar
hey, I'm arguing with a friend about Calamity lore.
the topic of discussion is:...
It is possible but we don’t know
someone in a YouTube comment section replied to me saying Exo and sea prisms don’t make energy out of nothing…
next sentinel
thanks guys, I won the argument, yippee
next sentinel
someone in a YouTube comment section replied to me saying Exo and sea prisms don...
Oh wow
green bay
I mean yeah according to physiscs its correct but if all powerful brimstone wotches exist then termodynamics is the last thing id worry about
untold oracle
Whar
indigo glade
Whar
Translation: It would be correct to say that energy normally cannot come from nothing. However, this is a fantasy setting, so anything can happen.
hushed geyser
It doesn't come from nothing mana exists
real silo
It's pretty obvious sea prisms had something to do with y'know
The goddess of mfing electricity
Though this doesn't explain how exo prisms got their infinite energy
next sentinel
It's pretty obvious sea prisms had something to do with y'know
aren't Exo prisms made out of sea prisms?
real silo
No
Draedon mentioned he synthesized them
And there's no way he had access to otonilou's power given she's dead as hell
indigo glade
Though this doesn't explain how exo prisms got their infinite energy
Sea Prisms also give out infinite energy, just in miniscule amounts.
untold oracle
Didn’t sea prisms have smth to do with Vetrasyl fuckery
indigo glade
Sea Prisms also give out infinite energy, just in miniscule amounts.
"The Ilmeran crystals that you know as "Sea Prisms" are self-illuminating and provide a weak electric charge indefinitely, even when tapped by circuitry."
real silo
Sea Prisms also give out infinite energy, just in miniscule amounts.
Ik
I'm saying sea prisms have it because of otonilou fuckery but draedon doesn't have that
indigo glade
I'm saying sea prisms have it because of otonilou fuckery but draedon doesn't ha...
That just means that lab-grown Sea Prisms also have the property of generating electricity.
real silo
If sea prisms had infinite charge because of otonilou
How did draedon manage to synthesize sea prisms with the same properties
Is what I'm saying
Draedon definitely doesn't have access to her power
indigo glade
Is what I'm saying
They just grow with that power, then.
real silo
Unreal
latent bolt
as her body was scaled up, so too was her hatred
this is official canon now 
split mortar
Didn’t sea prisms have smth to do with Vetrasyl fuckery
And exo prisms
cosmic zenith
If sea prisms had infinite charge because of otonilou
How did draedon manage to...
Even her power has to come from somewhere, or manifest somehow
¯_(ツ)_/¯
sleek halo
something I was thinking about
is how many domains/just general magic
might quite literally not ever work in space
like fire
sleek halo
don’t think magic can overcome the lack of air
sleek halo
Maybe
hushed geyser
Not maybe that's how magic works
sleek halo
nothing really says how magic especially with elements work
hushed geyser
sleek halo
nothing really says how magic especially with elements work
u could create fire but who is to say it doesn’t still require atmosphere to work
hushed geyser
Its called magic for a reason it's not rocket science
hushed geyser
Yeah but it isn't rocket science
sleek halo
idk I’d say it probably could
but still it doesn’t rly matter rn cuz how magic inherently works isn’t really explained
hushed geyser
Magic ice could just be freezing particles around it to create ice or an ice like substance
Who knows
real silo
My favourite kind of ability is just one general ability manifested in tons of different ways
like heat manipulation being able to control fire, ice and wind
hushed geyser
You can do that with ice powers too
Like exclusively
There are at least 5 ways you can make ice powers alone
real silo
Stuff like zeratros's domain too
He controls light which by extension lets him control darkness
hushed geyser
The ability to control weather having near infinite potential
real silo
Or reverse cursed technique being able to heal yourself or completely invert your normal technique effect
hushed geyser
The ability to control weather having near infinite potential
(You have like 100 other abilities)
real silo
Shit like that is so cool
It's basically fire force's whole thing
Everyone has powers relating to fire but they're still unique abilities
hushed geyser
Fire ability but it's just the ability to make molecules move really fast
real silo
Like the guy who burns his own arm and uses his smoke to make weapons
Or the guy who absorbs kinetic energy from punches and turns it into explosions
Or the guy who uses plasma to make lightsabers
Or the guy who straight up fuckin stops time
It's so peam
Even the guys with less creative abilities have super cool moves
Like the guy who uses broomsticks or smth as giant fire missiles and also uses fire martial arts
God I love fire force
cloud ibex
david productions....
hushed geyser
The ability to poison but instead of actually poisoning you can make someone less resistant to a substance to that point where they just die of random poisoning
real silo
making your body resistant to oxygen so you just fuckin die
hushed geyser
Make your own blood poisonous to you