lore-discussion

[tidal tulip]

yo when yharim is released, are we gonna kill him or subdue him

[deft vessel]

Is saving it for the final battle in my fanfic

[split mortar]

kill

kill

death

murder

yharim shall perish

[manic coral]

man when some soliders finally get their hands on hitler i wonder if they're gonna shoot him or just slap him and tell him to knock it off

(given neither happened)

[mighty zenith]

he's gonna die

[deft vessel]

Second one obviously

[manic coral]

but still like

cmon

[hybrid barn]

Canonically, he's probably going to die in like...a few years, so you might as well just kill him if you're in a position to

[split mortar]

iirc rebecca said she thinks he has like 3 years left

[manic coral]

like i usually dont do hitler comparisons to people in media but to be fair i write the dude and i mean it's not entirely inaccurate in this case

it's not an unfair comparison at the bare minimum

[mighty zenith]

tbf who else would you compare him to

[split mortar]

both caused worl wide wars and discriminatory

[manic coral]

genghis khan and walt disney

[split mortar]

very discriminatory

[manic coral]

the two main people he's inspired by

[mighty zenith]

based actually

[deft vessel]

Walt Disney on his way the start a world war

[manic coral]

you know when yharim was getting slightly redesigned i wnated him to have like

a sort of animal skin belt

[hybrid barn]

Both rose to power in a way that couldn't really be challenged by most, and practiced a monumental amount of propaganda for their purposes

[manic coral]

and also like walt disney

[split mortar]

thats a name of a person?

[mighty zenith]

you dont know walt disney ❓

[deft vessel]

Yes the creator of Disney

[manic coral]

like seriously msot people dont understand how batshit insane walt disney was in his twilight years

[split mortar]

thought it was the name of the company disney

[manic coral]

yes

[cloud ibex]

still funny to me that 90% of automod triggers for that word are in this channel

[mighty zenith]

it comes from him yeah

[manic coral]

becuase it was literally his last name

[manic coral]

again, i mean

[split mortar]

pfft

[deft vessel]

A lot of companies are just the founders last name

[manic coral]

it's not an unfair comparison

[mighty zenith]

[cloud ibex]

no yeah i have no problem with it in this context

but it's funny

[manic coral]

true!

also hi leon

hope you're doing well

[cloud ibex]

hello cei

i had an absolutely miserable programming exam yesterday but other than that it's alright

[split mortar]

yharim deserves atleast 1 good punch to the face

[deft vessel]

But who will rise from the ashes of calamity?

[spring helm]

i'd probably use "calamity" with an npc describing Moon Lord or something

[manic coral]

hey i know a guy who punches pretty good who could give him a punch he deserves

he's a funny bald guy

[deft vessel]

Only a punch

[manic coral]

he'll take yharim down in One Punch, Man

[cloud ibex]

siege

[split mortar]

Yharim wont even have One Piece of him left after that

[deft vessel]

Like how hot was it one the surface during the draconic era?

[split mortar]

not hotter then hell i imagine

[manic coral]

not really HOT, per say, just

intense

[cosmic zenith]

"It's not too late, Adolf" meme

[deft vessel]

Like 60C?

[manic coral]

it's less "it was really fucking hot" or moreos the efefcts of something like

[split mortar]

just that the sunlight would inflict super skin cancer on you quick;y

[manic coral]

ambient radiation

is the closest wya to describe it

[spring helm]

lmao

[cosmic zenith]

It's like being in a really shitty microwave

[deft vessel]

So the counter to PL is… Sunblock

[cosmic zenith]

It's the radiation hitting you that's the actual problem

[split mortar]

primordial light is also a mana/magic i think? so itd prob also fuck up a lot of spells

[cosmic zenith]

Thank you

But people on the Surface had access to the stars

[deft vessel]

So could you like exist normally in the north during winter or just night in general?

[cosmic zenith]

You know it'd be funny to think that there used to be Mana Crystals in the Underground, but people just used all of them lol

[dusk laurel]

Yeah this

[manic coral]

i mean. tbh it's not a massively relavant detail so i dont mind talking about it.

but

i mean

i wouldn't really say there was "night"

in the tradtional sense

moreso

[split mortar]

i was wondering if it was a thing just now with how violent the sun was

[manic coral]

day for 18 hours and then what's functionally sort of twilight for the other 6

[spring helm]

this is only possible with pre-1933 hitler

[deft vessel]

So… people like Xeroc did they have radioation immunite or did they just walk it off or not go outside?

[cosmic zenith]

Ehh, I disagree with that notion, though I do think day and twilight had more presence

[manic coral]

thats what their mask and all of the robes were for

[split mortar]

xeroc i imagine could handle the sun, on the basis of being the monk of the sun dragon

[spring helm]

it's Primordial Light right? could just be a blessing from Zeratros or something

[cosmic zenith]

Xeroc probably has some immunity to it, but not enough to just go outside naked

[split mortar]

yeh

[pliant ruin]

hi chat what lore is loring currently

[manic coral]

anybody when went on the surface had to dress pretty fucking heavily

[cosmic zenith]

Besides the cloaked-masked aesthetic is cooler

[deft vessel]

Ok gotta keep that in mind for my OCs

[spring helm]

but shirtless Xeroc tho

[split mortar]

actual lore

[manic coral]

mostly because im here

[cosmic zenith]

These requirements would make designing clothes for Draconic Era Surface inhabitants pretty fun and interesting, but unfortunately I don't have much time to do so

[split mortar]

you say that like it wont take five seconds to become one pice dragon ball talk

[dusk laurel]

Do, not.

[deft vessel]

But can you confirm if there were draconic chapions?

[hybrid barn]

Speaking of shirtless Xeroc actually, is the big spot with rings in the middle of his chest just a tattoo of sorts? I'm imagining that it is, but I might as well ask

[pliant ruin]

I mean would being attuned to a dragon count

I think you could argue that Yharim is more or less to Yharon what Braelor is to Silva

[deft vessel]

Ye

[spring helm]

big umbrella

[split mortar]

yharim certainly has got hands

[spring helm]

or parasol

[deft vessel]

But mainly if the dragons could give some of their power

[pliant ruin]

it seems the new lore drop was just

the sun is a deadly laser

[split mortar]

i thinmk he ahs atleast 10 hands and 3 fingers iirc

[dusk laurel]

Yeah

[spring helm]

lmao so Terraria back then was just Earth before the ozone layer

[indigo glade]

Not anymore, there's a blanket!

[split mortar]

xeroc is secretly a giant blanket keeping it safe from the sun, yharim wants to do climate chnage

[spring helm]

the climate already changed

big Fovos doesn't want you to know this

but 800 years ago

[cosmic zenith]

Obviously, Xeroc wasn't attuned to Zeratros, he was just a mirror seller

[split mortar]

canon

canon

[dusk laurel]

[mighty zenith]

he was just a happy mask salesman

[pliant ruin]

A what

holy shit... moon lord

[indigo glade]

But who was Skull Kid...

[split mortar]

dragon of gravity

[cosmic zenith]

I particularly like how I managed to reference and contextualize this intense sunlight in the first Aerialite book

[indigo glade]

How hot are Hellforges?

[pliant ruin]

The light imperishable

[cosmic zenith]

Unclear

[manic coral]

meanwhile i continue work work on permafrost dialogue

[pliant ruin]

can you give him a line where he tries to be #cool with the #kids and tries using slang but it comes off as really forced and cringe but he's trying his best

[manic coral]

the dialogue tree for permafrost's introduction so far (i made sure it was zoomed out to the point of illegibility by zooming in as close as possible dont even try)

[dusk laurel]

Wow

[pliant ruin]

aw

i can't zoom in

[manic coral]

have made most of this over the course of about a day and a half

no dialogue path is actually finish yet

well the rightmost one kind ais but

lacks dialogue for when he finally appears in town

so like you can finish it pretty fucking fast if you want

some qurisk so far

you can be rude to him to send up away else immediatly as talked about

as also talked about yeah

dialogue for if you fight calamitas before cryogen because

it'd bug me if i didnt adgknowedge that

if you've read tundra lab log or heard about him from amidias, you cna correctly identify him as Archmage Permafrost before he ever introduces himself

no massive ramifications just a fun lil thing

only results in some slight dialogue change

[pliant ruin]

based

[manic coral]

as you could guess the smaller boxes with only a few words in them are your possible replies

[spring helm]

wait is auric ore already pure

you don't smelt it

[manic coral]

yes

it is already pure

[spring helm]

cool

[spring helm]

im looking at the wiki right now trying to figure out what they need so much heat for

[pliant ruin]

Don't you need a hellforge to smelt aerialite

or am i misremembering

[spring helm]

boy was i shocked to find out you can use a regular furnace to smelt cobalt and mythril

[spring helm]

that's what i thought too

but no

[indigo glade]

No. Normal furnace.

[spring helm]

unless that's going to be changed

[pliant ruin]

damn!!

[manic coral]

also maybe my favorite thing is

if you beat cryogen after calamitas

talk abotu him about calamiats and the state of the world

you can choose this'

and just

not know who he is

[spring helm]

lmao

[fierce pagoda]

the hellforge is only used to make five things in vanilla

[manic coral]

like

there needs to be SOME funny interactions

i'd be ashamed if there weren't

[indigo glade]

How many times can one be confused by Permafrost's existence?

[spring helm]

"You know I can make more than ice cubes right? How about this cryonic bar? No? Okay..."

[manic coral]

also if you're rude to permafrsot he tells you that he says he would "recommend that you take some days off adventuring to instead go learn some manners"

[manic coral]

at least 3 throughout all branches of dialogue

but only one time in total

[indigo glade]

Archmage spitting Cryonic Bars.

[split mortar]

To be fair it feels a lot more then that

[spring helm]

sheeeesh

[manic coral]

i jsut liek the show of

[spring helm]

I'd say it's fire, but it's ice cold

[pliant ruin]

we'll get to actually build a personality for our terrarian nugget ingame rather than being limited to fanfiction 🥹

[fierce pagoda]

I guess some people kinda assume that a hellforge is needed for the hellstone weapons and gear, but you use the anvil for that

[manic coral]

he is mostly nowadays a fairly kind old dude but if shit is thrown at him, he can throw shit right back

[spring helm]

uncle iroh

[split mortar]

my terrarian would prob be a bit of a dick at that point

[pliant ruin]

ok i'm ngl

why can i like

genuinely see permafrost dropping some bars

like i can genuinely picture him like. rapping.

why

[manic coral]

probably the visor

[split mortar]

he knows a lot#

trueeeeeeee

[spring helm]

oh yeah, Cei, drop a sample from his mixtape

[indigo glade]

🗣️ 🧊

Like this?

[spring helm]

Yharim not like us

[manic coral]

honestly given i try to keep cal PG-13 but also by PG-13 rules i get one use of the word "fuck"

i mean

obviously that's calamitas who gets it

like

who else would it even be

[spring helm]

Braelor

[split mortar]

why is it so low...

[trim edge]

drunk princess

[spring helm]

just sudden whiplash that Braelor of all people says it

[wheat walrus]

who are you.................

[manic coral]

Braelor is too formal to say fuck even if he's still more laid back than Amidias and Permafrsot, and while Statis isn't that formal, he doestn strike me as a guy who swears too much.

calamitas?

calamitas already makes up for half of the swears in the mod

[pliant ruin]

BASED AS FUCK

[spring helm]

wait really?

[split mortar]

calamitas swears?

[manic coral]

if you're an ass to calamitas she'd asbolutely tell you to go fuck herself

[split mortar]

already?

[wheat walrus]

since when.......................

[wheat walrus]

🧐

[manic coral]

i might be confusign myself betwene whast in the mod now and what ive written

[wheat walrus]

erm what the fuck...

[cloud ibex]

probably says "damn" or something

[indigo glade]

Calamitas still acts like a teenager, repeating any swear word thousands of times after she hears about it once.

[spring helm]

well tbh she kinda had it coming
what with her ambushing us and all

[wheat walrus]

yea

mf jumping us and pretending respect at the same time :/

[pliant ruin]

My name is Permafrost and better than me you are not,
I will diss out bars that are freezing cold yet flaming hot,
They do not call me the archrapper for naught

[split mortar]

and her attacks reducing mental health or whatever

[pliant ruin]

😭

[spring helm]

Braelor after getting left in the Distortion: "Aw shucks, now what?"

[split mortar]

cheese has perished

such sad

[wheat walrus]

this shit so fire it needs to be put down gang

[indigo glade]

Permafrost may make Cryonic metal but he spits Hellstone Bars

[cloud ibex]

scooby doo catchphrases except with cal characters

[split mortar]

her funeral will be in 764876 days

[spring helm]

oh god now i kinda want to try writing some rap bars for permafrost

[split mortar]

pfft

[manic coral]

my favorite Adventure Time trivia is that they used actual swears in the intial drafts for writing episodes

just

on this topic

[split mortar]

permafrost rap is spreading

[spring helm]

what

[pliant ruin]

I'm ngl i always pictured statis as being on par with cal in terms of swears, if not a little higher

[manic coral]

yup

[wheat walrus]

swearscaling is crazy

[mighty zenith]

i always pictured statis swearing exclusively in british slang

but he also doesnt have an english accent

[split mortar]

theres in universe replacements so it makes sense to write with actual swears then replace

[pliant ruin]

OI MATE

YOU BLIGHTER

[manic coral]

you know it'd be really funny if i remember to make most people use american spellings buy have statis for his dialogue use british spellings

[wheat walrus]

🇺🇸

[calm patio]

[split mortar]

but scal is british aswe;;

[calm patio]

thats a sin to us australians

[pliant ruin]

no she isnt stabs you

[split mortar]

aswell

[indigo glade]

"BLOODY HELL" -Statis, in the most non-British accent ever.

[split mortar]

violence:

[pliant ruin]

BLOODY FIDDLESTICKS!!!

[cloud ibex]

i have sometimes thought of brief banter between my terrarian character and other npcs

[split mortar]

braelor is clearly scottish

[pliant ruin]

WHAT IS THAT DARN BLIGHTER DOING HERE!!!

[spring helm]

Braelor cannot say "Purple burglar alarm"

[pliant ruin]

Ok i'm ngl most of my british insult knowledge comes from heathcliff limbus

[mighty zenith]

please

[pliant ruin]

ANd i forgot every single heathcliff limbus insult

except fucking

blighter

its all i can remember

[manic coral]

it might happen

i mean

i keep with the detial of

[wheat walrus]

I tried to say this with a british accent

[manic coral]

"draedon counts starting from 0"

[wheat walrus]

this sucks

[manic coral]

so

[cloud ibex]

like for example him arguing with the Angler about him being a kid, the Angler goes "i'm not a kid, i know swear words like [looks around room to make sure nobody's listening, lowers voice] fuck"

[split mortar]

lmao yeah machines do that

[manic coral]

yeah exactly

[wheat walrus]

draedon is fucking stupid...

[manic coral]

so

[split mortar]

nuh uh#

[manic coral]

of course he counts from 0

[cloud ibex]

and then the Stranger goes "that's weak sauce, there's so many better words like shit, piss, ass etc."

[manic coral]

it's one of ym favorite very small details ive written in

[mighty zenith]

draedon runs on exclusively if/else statements

[cloud ibex]

and then the guide or whatever tells them off for swearing in the Angler's presence

[wheat walrus]

yes draedon is stupid he should start from the smallest positive number...

but he can't!!!

because there is no true smallest positive number

[indigo glade]

Would be looking like Yandere Simulator with the amount of nested IF statements.

[cloud ibex]

this lines up with me writing draedon's dialogue as java system.out.println dialogues

[manic coral]

if he ever once did he's rewritten his code to be more efficent since then

[split mortar]

draedon is coded in python

[mighty zenith]

what if daedalus was actually a genius but his coding skills were hot garbage

[manic coral]

honestly i considered something like that but decided for the average person

it'd be too confusing

[wooden shadow]

sounds like a draedon thing to do

[manic coral]

also hence why draedon has dates as D/M/Y

when really imo he'd use Y/M/D

[indigo glade]

Draedon is blasphemous.

[split mortar]

but like, be funny

[manic coral]

maybe ill change it to that after more dates are added

so it isnt as confusing

[wooden shadow]

holy shit, draelore

[spring helm]

well at least it's not M/D/Y

[mighty zenith]

TRUE

[split mortar]

iirc doesnt draedon say the month is more then 12? or am i insane

[indigo glade]

You are telling me one of the smartest people in the world isn't using an obvious method of dating?

[cloud ibex]

i don't put much attention on it

[indigo glade]

Insane.

[split mortar]

:(

[indigo glade]

Calenders are the same.

[cloud ibex]

just sort of a background detail

[manic coral]

huh

maybe ill steal this idea some day

lkike for him actually talking

[wheat walrus]

mdy sucks it's mid

[split mortar]

they did xeroc in a unique way aswell iirc

[manic coral]

i dont think it'd make sense

but

[manic coral]

tbf i have more my own details regarding xeroc for obvious reasons

[cloud ibex]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/186VNpJN9Vc_CAsFIxzMT0xMNjqY52wRHb0W8vPjvPbc/edit?usp=sharing on that note i'm gonna plug this again just because i still like how i styled xeroc's dialogue

[split mortar]

xeroc speaking in verses or whatever theyre called is cool

[fierce pagoda]

Since all calamity town npc's are getting their own dialouge system, are vanilla town npc's still gonna use the vanilla dialogue system?

[wheat walrus]

yea cause vanilla bad vanilla suck...

calamity beteter frfrfrfrfrfrfvr

[spring helm]

plant baby jail

[manic coral]

ok that is cool

[fierce pagoda]

Calamity is calamity good, but nothing comes close to vanilla when it comes to being Terraria good

[manic coral]

i like that

[manic coral]

yes

unless i decide to get really ambitious

because remember said dialogue system applies to two things

actually asking npcs about things and their initial introductions

[fierce pagoda]

Vanilla npcs just arent interesting enough

or lore important

[manic coral]

the base normal dialogue system is still there

[cloud ibex]

to be honest a good chunk of the way the Stranger talks is how i talk myself

[manic coral]

like if you right click on permafrost when he's a town npc you'll still get some random normal dialogue

[spring helm]

took me a while to realize Xeroc's speaking in verses

[wooden shadow]

Somewhat related question related to NPCs. What are Truffles in Calamity lore?
Are they their own sapient race or is the Truffle NPC the only one of his kind

[spring helm]

that's cool

[manic coral]

but you can actually have the option to ask him about stuff

[split mortar]

fucking lmao

[cloud ibex]

yea that's what the numbers beside their dialogue means

[spring helm]

personally, i show extremely different method';s of speaking by changing the font

so i have draedon speak in roboto

[cloud ibex]

same

[wheat walrus]

roboto...

[manic coral]

as the lead writer i dictate that

[spring helm]

and Moon Lord in comic sans

[manic coral]

i dont fucking know

[wooden shadow]

That's fair

[manic coral]

maybe someday ill come up with smth

[indigo glade]

Truffle is actually the secret hive mind for the Glowing Mushrooms.

[wooden shadow]

Tbh I genuinely forget that the Truffle is a thing, even when I play ranger class. He kinda sucks lol

[split mortar]

fucking why

[spring helm]

idk

it was different

[fierce pagoda]

sans undertale

[indigo glade]

This is why they are so worried about their safety, despite being a fungus that could easily reproduce and regenerate.

[sinful adder]

may I give a suggestion?

[indigo glade]

They are special, and can't reproduce.

[manic coral]

which as said unless i get really ambitious vanilla NPCs wont have that option

[split mortar]

why is comic sans so hated

[manic coral]

even if i do, it wont be TOO much

[pliant ruin]

as not a writer i dictate that the truffle is actually just yharim in a disguise

[manic coral]

sure if you want

[pliant ruin]

tbh the glowing mushroom biome in general is interesting to think about

[indigo glade]

Watch VSauce's video, "A Defense of Comic Sans".

[fierce pagoda]

It's one of those "everyone hates it cuz its funny to hate it" kind of things, when its really nothing special

[pliant ruin]

it's not really a ecosystem as much as it's a single giant organism

[fierce pagoda]

like pineapple on pizza for example

[wooden shadow]

I write my Calamity fanfic doc in comic sans because it looks close enough to Terraria font because I don't have it

[manic coral]

yeah like i have plenty for the glowing mushroom biome

[pliant ruin]

given all of the "fauna" you find on it is actually all just corpses reanimated by the glowing mushroom

[manic coral]

and glowing mushrooms in general

[pliant ruin]

so there isn't really like

[manic coral]

but not like

the truffle itself

[hot valve]

This reminds me of the gravemind from halo

[pliant ruin]

a food chain or anything, i imagine

it's funny to think about

[hot valve]

The grave mind only speaks in iambic pentameter

[pliant ruin]

it's a "biome" but functionally speaking it's less of a biome and more of just a really big organism

[cloud ibex]

the truffle talks about their "kind" or something like that i think

which implies that there are actually more than one Truffle out there

[wooden shadow]

Glowing mushrooms are just cordyceps confirmed

[manic coral]

you know i just got an idea about truffles

i think i have an answer now

[fierce pagoda]

Truffle is a walking psychedelic mushroom, evident by the fact that multiple NPC's want to eat him

[split mortar]

doesnt truffle refere to normal glowing mushrooms as their like family or children

[fierce pagoda]

and go crazy over him

[sinful adder]

Blue mushrooms are associated with a unique natural necromancy, as seen with crabulon and vanilla's mushroom skeletons and bugs. They also are packed full of mana, as they are the basis of all mana and most healing potions. Given this, perhaps they make life from death, possibly associated with the dragon of death? I don't have anything for the truffle itself though.

[trim edge]

i'd like to think of the truffle as just what would happen if the glowing mushroom gained sapience

and somehow the glowing mushrooms being underground stop them from being sapient

[hybrid barn]

I'm admittedly curious

[wooden shadow]

The Truffle mentions that all glowing mushrooms are his children. Which means making him a house out of glowing mushrooms is like making a human a house out of human flesh

[wheat walrus]

so based

let's do that

[trim edge]

or is he made out of house

[cloud ibex]

a gingerbread man lives in a gingerbread house etc.

[wooden shadow]

That one quote also implies that the Truffle is the one town npc that does not like the Terrarian

[spring helm]

is he made of house, or is the house made of flesh

[sinful adder]

if he were living in a cave he'd be still living in a "house" made of his flesh, but alive

[hot valve]

Oh? Which one?

[fierce pagoda]

A truffle being born from the glowing mushrooms is as rare as Life naturally occurring in the universe, that is why there is only one truffle.

hes like a big coincidence

[wooden shadow]

"As if living underground wasn't bad enough, jerks like you come in while I'm sleeping and steal my children."

[hot valve]

Huh
Interesting

[trim edge]

being above ground gives the truffle sapience

[hybrid barn]

So technically, it's canon that you drink the blood of some guy's kids to heal yourself

[fierce pagoda]

He puts up with us because we give him a house to live in

[fierce pagoda]

I mean, we already eat the meat of kids in real life, think of animals

[trim edge]

but we don't have like
a single sapient cow

[fierce pagoda]

true

but cannibals exist

[hybrid barn]

True, but it's wilder when it's someone you can talk to
Like, just imagining him telling you about this, while you're grinding a bunch of glowing mushroooms into potion bottles

[fierce pagoda]

That's kinda funny to think about

theres just awkard silence after him telling you these are his kids you have been chugging down

[cloud ibex]

what if you just kept going

[hybrid barn]

"Well I have a boss to fight, so...continues grinding"

[cloud ibex]

"you can keep your damn mushroom children bastards. i got boss fights in the mornin' "

[split mortar]

How does stranger healing potion or any equivalents?

[cloud ibex]

i think later on they could develop some sort of pack of repair nanobots that they smash open to fix themselves in a pitch

[split mortar]

Portable draedons heart

[cloud ibex]

but i had the idea that they struggle a fair bit early on with how low tech the world of cal is outside of draedon's fuckery so maybe they spend most of the story just tanking through all the injuries they sustain in the field until they can repair themselves back at base

i had a funny idea of them having to set up a shitty steam power plant early on so they can get a small trickle of power to charge themselves

[split mortar]

The nano plague sounds like it would be either a nightmare or piss easy for them to deal with

[split mortar]

Eating wulfrum bots would prob do better

[cloud ibex]

on that note they'd probably by default be a fair bit tankier than a normal person given they're... well, not really a person at all

[split mortar]

Yeah

[cloud ibex]

does it affect inorganic things at all

if not then yeah no they wouldn't give a shit

the astral infection would be pretty risky for them though

[split mortar]

Uh idk actually

[spring helm]

i dont think it does, since draedon made it to infect organic beings

[split mortar]

Oh fuck yeah that

[spring helm]

aren't they sentient though?

[split mortar]

Still a robot

Draedon for all their smarts are like

Still a pile of rocks for the astral

If draedon could just upload his ai into a bot to make it immune or resist astral then he wouldn’t be so annoyed by it

[cloud ibex]

if draedon was smart he'd make a biomechanical lab with some super dedicated scientist's soul infused so it counts as mostly organic and sentient

and therefore would be extra resistent to the infection

[split mortar]

Or just like make green solution bots

[spring helm]

he doesn't like infusing souls into his robots, since that gives them independence

[cloud ibex]

that's why it's gotta be someone who REALLY loves science and would do anything to help accelerate understanding of the astral

[split mortar]

So what draedon possibly is

[light linden]

just realized

has draedon done any work on energy shields?

[split mortar]

Uh probably?

We can make sponge and he is vastly above us in tech

[light linden]

I wonder why none of the exo mechs have any then

[mighty zenith]

probably durable enough to not need them?

[split mortar]

Probably inefficient for them

[light linden]

eh

also fun thing

[split mortar]

They’re big giant robot machines with playing as thick as us

We are squishy guy

The shield prob helps more for us and not them

[light linden]

my dog is staring intensely at your pfp garbo

[split mortar]

The dog can smell their stench

[wheat walrus]

garbo smells like garbo...

no way

[light linden]

actually

can the astral infection get through energy shielding?

[pliant ruin]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

probably

it got through aureus's plating, don't see why it wouldn't get through energy shielding

it seems to be more of a mental thing than anything

[split mortar]

True draedon thought the plating was better then energy shield

[mighty zenith]

he loves aureus

good boy

[fierce pagoda]

I had this idea of my OC not being satisfied with his regeneration, so he took the Radiance accessory and managed to supercharge it by connecting it to a exo-prism. Now that the exoprisms infitite energy is fueling the Radiance its effectiveness is enhanced by A LOT. He now regenerates almost instantly from any injury like 24/7. Only way to actually damage him now is to either deal more damage faster than the Exo-radiance can heal, or by destroying the Exo-radiance itself.

you think it could work

[cloud ibex]

could work

probably should remember to make sure that it doesn't make things too easy for them, but also make sure that it doesn't immediately get invalidated

[split mortar]

I think the guy would have to be hyper squishy compared to threats if their regen is effectively going to be a permanent 50 health a second

[cloud ibex]

like for example have them use it against yharim, it's the only thing keeping them alive by a thread for most of the fight, then later on maybe yharim straight up snipes it

[fierce pagoda]

This is like end of his story stuff, he gets it after Exo-mechs. he's gonna need it for Yharim

[heavy ermine]

“Infitite”

[fierce pagoda]

he isnt planning to use the regen for healing against injuries from the fight

[stark basalt]

is yharim old?

[cloud ibex]

give it some time to shine but also don't make it completely invalidate any risk

[split mortar]

130 ish

Going to die of age in under a decade

[fierce pagoda]

hes gonna use it to heal himself from his ability that harms his body for power

[stark basalt]

how do we know this? sorry to bother 🙏🏽

[cloud ibex]

my character has a kinda similar thing going with their boss progression

[stark basalt]

and the 130 number

[split mortar]

The fact that yharon rebirths in a decade and he won’t last that long

[fierce pagoda]

I have this idea that, he uses this ability called the soul-burn, which literally burns up his soul for a power boost

[split mortar]

I think a dev statement or prob something from the yharim draetalk

[fierce pagoda]

but it has the side effect of, you know killing him

so he uses Mana to fuel his soul in order to not cause permanent soul damage

[split mortar]

So like yharon but with even more risk since their soul isn’t the cool kind

[stark basalt]

#lore-discussion message rebaccca is an authority right

[heavy ermine]

Calamitas disses Yharim, Euphoria

“Man I hate the way you walk
The way you talk
The way you dress
If you ever catch flight it’s gon be direct
I hate the bitches you fuck
Cause you mistake them for real women”

[split mortar]

Yes, Rebecca is a lore writer

[fierce pagoda]

but his mana supply is limited, so he wants an unlimited mana supply

and he does this by using the Mana burn acccessory thing

[stark basalt]

thanks goat 🙏🏽

[spare pier]

I like the way I justified game mechanics like the insane regeneration with Calamari

She is blessed by Silva so she just has really fucking strong regeneration

[split mortar]

If you didn’t know, there’s a lore doc in the pins of this channel

[fierce pagoda]

the Mana burn damages his body for mana, and then the exo-radiance heals him from said damage , Thus he has an infiinte mana source and can supply his Soul burn ability for longer periods of time

[split mortar]

Still dies to xeroc

(Makes xeroc more intimidating to me)

[cloud ibex]

they just barely beat the exos, pushing their body to its' limits, then they use exo prisms to upgrade themselves to the point of SCal's fight being pretty onesided (since that chapter is kinda written from SCal's perspective, so she gets pretty much stomped) and then it's back to being a tough fight when they go for Yharim

[stark basalt]

yeah i discovered that recently im reading it, is there any other source material like this? (except author statement here ofc)

[heavy ermine]

Is Calamitas a D1 hater

[spare pier]

There's a limit to how much she can pull off tho

[fierce pagoda]

This is your OC's boss progression?

[split mortar]

There isn’t anything like the lore doc for dev statements

[cloud ibex]

yes

[indigo glade]

The Lore Document already has nearly every source that is in game, so no.

[fierce pagoda]

haha okay cuz it was kinda very similar to mine

[stark basalt]

thanks goats

[spare pier]

Another thing I like is how I canonized respawning for one of my other OCs, but I barely even bothered porting her to the new Lore

Her Soul is tied to the Hallow so she can always come back

[heavy ermine]

Also we have a lore writer here now so ima ask what I wanted to ask. When the calamity mod is done what yall gonna do. I have a suggestion no one asked for. How about, we get like, a harder calamity mod of before Yharim fucking shit up. And like we see the prime old duke and like younger Calamitas and shit

[cloud ibex]

i mean there is kinda only two different orders of progression those three can have so

[spare pier]

And then I had thought Yharim burned it down after she killed Moon Lord to amp up the stakes

[cloud ibex]

kinda an inevitability that you'll have some similar ones

[spare pier]

But he can't really do that anymore

And also that'd mean she only shows up in Hardmode

So

[heavy ermine]

I’m being ignored, and I can’t send a sad Mario gif

[fierce pagoda]

yeah that's true, but i can see some peoples OC's struggling against both exo mechs and scal, even if killing one makes the second easier in-game

[heavy ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-super-mario-bros-depression-sad-mario-and-luigi-gif-14815881022592239601

[spare pier]

We'll just move on to our own stuff, there's a reason Calamity will be finished

[heavy ermine]

Embedded fail

Go

I’m a failure 😞😞😞😞

[heavy ermine]

Ong she noticed me!!

It’s not all pointless

[heavy ermine]

Awww okay

[cloud ibex]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1p_iGdjCwuQ9oJFhXT4z0wTrLbIBjuzUsvJWF3ZtdeHo/edit?usp=sharing on that note

[split mortar]

Oh right you still embed

[cloud ibex]

(yes i've posted this, like, two times before

[split mortar]

Lmao

[cosmic zenith]

I feel like Truffles being a mystery is much better than actually explaining it

[fierce pagoda]

Maybe

[split mortar]

Gotta leave room for theories

[spare pier]

I think there's no reason to keep them mysterious when they aren't treated as such

People just vibe with the Truffle which makes them seem like a fairly normal occurrence

[fierce pagoda]

Heavily mutated Glowing mushroom that happened to eat a mostly in-tact brain of a poor lad

and gained sapience as a result

maybe

[cosmic zenith]

👋

We're here quite often

[light linden]

hi rebecca and vetra

[spare pier]

I think it's fine to leave the Truffle unexplained for the sake of leaving that up to people's headcanons, but the Truffle isn't exactly treated as a mysterious fella

[cosmic zenith]

Exactly why I think it should be mysterious

[split mortar]

Yeah I see one of you like atleast once very other day

[cosmic zenith]

"There's this sapient Truffle here"
"How the fuck does that happen?"
"Hell if I know, does it matter?"

[snow mountain]

i want to eat him

[cosmic zenith]

Hello!

[light linden]

Me tying them to an oc god:

maybe some day I'll write something about them

[fierce pagoda]

During a Windy Day:

"Our kind is very brittle, I worry for my brothers on this breezy day."

Either he has brothers like him, or he considers the glowing mushrooms his brothers

and some of them his children

[snow mountain]

all glowing mushrooms are sentient, they feel pain

[light linden]

this reminds me

rebecca you're writing npc dialogue right?

[spare pier]

I personally would prefer to explain the Truffles as a relatively rare happening under some really fucking weird circumstances and leave the joke of "what the fuck" as to the weirdly specific events that must happen in order for a Truffle to exist

[light linden]

have you made anything for the dye trader?

[spare pier]

Not yet

[light linden]

aw

[spare pier]

I've been busy with other stuff

[light linden]

fair enough

[stark basalt]

🙏🏽

[split mortar]

Hope you’re enjoying the lore doc

[pliant ruin]

miau

[light linden]

would y'all even be interested in reading something like that?

[fierce pagoda]

When in a Graveyard:

"This is an excellent place to start a family. Most of my friends were born here!"
"This place makes me feel good. I'm not sure why..."

truffle moment

[spare pier]

Like, I think this is far more effective in comedy than leaving something unexplained

It's rare that I find a joke is more effective when it's entirely up to your interpretation

[light linden]

fun fact, those two lines were what made me consider a god who focused on graveyards

[split mortar]

Sacrifices?

[pliant ruin]

Truffles are formed when a lightning strikes a person inside a mushroom biome at a full moon while they're covered in water

[fierce pagoda]

When in a Mushroom biome:

"I feel right at home, like I am one with the Glowing Mushrooms biome."

[split mortar]

Not water

Honey

[fierce pagoda]

this one was weird, isnt he always one with the glowing mushroom bimoe

considering he is a glowing mushroom?

[spare pier]

Because there is no punchline, you have to come up with one on your own

[light linden]

more so a God of Fungus

and earlier a Dragon of Decay

[spare pier]

Torch God is one of the few cases where it works because it's more so that

Torch God is not necessarily a joke

[cosmic zenith]

That's basically what I'm suggesting

Leaving the circumstances mysterious

[spare pier]

If you want you can play Torch God 100% seriously

[fierce pagoda]

Are shimmered npc forms canon

[light linden]

shimmer isn't canon yet iirc

[spare pier]

But I'm saying exactly I don't want to do that

[cosmic zenith]

??

[spare pier]

I think the circumstances should be explained because it's funnier if you explain them

[light linden]

oh wait rebecca since you're here can you answer a question?

[spare pier]

Shoot

[cosmic zenith]

If you make some really silly circumstances, sure

[fierce pagoda]

Sometims the explanation or asnwer to a thing is "there is no answer"

[cloud ibex]

explain the circumstances, let the mystery be "how the FUCK did this happen"

[indigo glade]

Truffle is so normal, that the other characters don't question it, and the Terrarian is never allowed to question it, so players are never explained what a Truffle is.

[light linden]

can the astral infection get through energy shields?

[fierce pagoda]

like that there is no answer IS the answer

[spare pier]

Yeah that's what I wanted

[cloud ibex]

like a zany version of the noodle incident

[cosmic zenith]

But I'd rather not make up silly explanations for something that could be a subject of speculation

[spare pier]

Probably

[light linden]

the noodle incident?

[spare pier]

Actually no it 100% can

[cloud ibex]

the noodle incident .

[light linden]

also another thing

[split mortar]

It’s a trope where the entire point is is that something went fucking nuts crazy and we don’t get to see it I think

[cloud ibex]

(it's a completely unexplained event from calvin and hobbes that is only ever vaguely referred to, never in much detail

[cosmic zenith]

It may be funnier, but I think it does a disservice to serious speculation

[fierce pagoda]

so if i ask something, and someone says "yeah the explanation is intended to not be revealed" I'm satisfied with that answer and ignore it there after

[cosmic zenith]

If the circumstances are mysterious, then you could go with either "what the fuck lmao" or "wait how did this happen"

[pliant ruin]

the noodle incident

[spare pier]

As I always say, speculation requires a basis which means we'd need to plant the seeds somewhere in the story, and then you know what happens

[cosmic zenith]

And I think a serious lead would be better, tbh

[indigo glade]

The "Noodle Incident" is a trope where a ridiculous situation that is unseen by the audience is brought up by one of the in-universe characters.

[split mortar]

Just have it be that people theorise on how it happens with no concrete answer but still giving a wtf moment

[pliant ruin]

I think that it'd be cool if the truffle's origin was never 100% outright explained but was vaguely alluded to

It would be funny

[spare pier]

I think the Truffle works far better as a half joke half serious thing

[cosmic zenith]

Like "maybe it happens because of some funky interaction with mana? 100% speculation"

[light linden]

was the aureus we fought part of a line of machines or a unique machine that got overtaken?

[spare pier]

As is the case of what I think of all Vanilla NPCs

It's rare where I think they should be treated 100% seriously

[pliant ruin]

also yeah i agree with reb

[spare pier]

Like

[cosmic zenith]

Then you can only get as much as half, going into any side :p

[fierce pagoda]

ohh good point

[cosmic zenith]

And treating it as a half-joke, half-serious thing is usually pretty shallow

[spare pier]

Mechanic and Clothier are one of the two NPCs which have to be treated seriously

[pliant ruin]

truffle and most vanilla npcs are barely There

like

[spare pier]

Because they are tied to something that is also serious even in Vanilla

[pliant ruin]

they don't have much serious characterization

[fierce pagoda]

what about dryad

[pliant ruin]

most of their "characterization" is just kinda

jokes

and some personality quirks

[cosmic zenith]

I personally would treat a handful of vanilla NPCs seriously

[spare pier]

Dryad is more of a concept than a proper character in Cal ngl

Oh yeah the Guide too

[cosmic zenith]

At least, the ones I'm picking are gonna be written generally seriously (in the sense that they have characterization and whatever sillies they have are within that characterization)

[fierce pagoda]

I like that there is only one good skeleton in the game, the rest just decided to be assholes

[cosmic zenith]

It'd be funny to make Skeleton Merchant just the most gentle person in life

[split mortar]

Nah the rest of the skeletons are communicating skelepathically with your skeleton trying to free it

The merchants care not for the screaming underneath

[fierce pagoda]

Do undead things have souls? no right? since thats what it means to be dead, have on soul

or your soul got stolen

by death

[split mortar]

Cataclysm and catastrophe have their souls iirc

Just that they don’t themselves very well

[sinful adder]

I would guess that an undead creature has a soul because it's made by shoving a soul in a dead thing

[fierce pagoda]

ok then I'm gona assume they have a bit of soul left

skeleton merchant maybe has more of his soul intact

[split mortar]

Also every dungeon enemy has souls in them

[fierce pagoda]

and thats why he isnt a mindless crazyman

like the rest of the skellies

[snow mountain]

john soul

[spare pier]

I remember I had an explanation thought out about Necromancy but I forgor

[sinful adder]

Skeleton merchant is something unique and interesting, I think

Only example of perfect necromancy?

[fierce pagoda]

wow

[sinful adder]

Golem made of a skeleton?

[fierce pagoda]

maybe

[split mortar]

I think skeleton merchant was talked about before

[snow mountain]

no he's just chill like that

[fierce pagoda]

Is skeleton merchant gonna be another "there is no explanation" moment or will he be explain you think?

[sinful adder]

Does it have something to do with "mana is stored in the bones"

[split mortar]

And it was said they weren’t brought back from the dead but instead are a necromantic construct

IIRC

[fierce pagoda]

If Mana is stored in the bones, and blood is also produced inside the bones, does Mana-burn convert your blood into mana? and that's why it damages you?

[split mortar]

Maybe

[hoary cape]

Possibly

[spare pier]

Nah, it's different

[split mortar]

That or it just increases the temperature of your bones until you die

[fierce pagoda]

that sounds painful

[hoary cape]

Imagine having bones

[fierce pagoda]

Geckos have bones

[split mortar]

A lot of blood chalice deaths do

[spare pier]

Like, I was talking about how Necromancy worked in depth due to a few things that use it in the story

[hoary cape]

I don't

[fierce pagoda]

blood chalice yummy

[spare pier]

And it was decided that

There are two types of Necromancy

[fierce pagoda]

Lore!?

[spare pier]

1 - When you use an external soul to reanimate a body
2 - When you bring back the old Soul into a body

[snow mountain]

john-mancy and grimblo-mancy??

[fierce pagoda]

what kind is ravager

[snow mountain]

aw

[fierce pagoda]

is he number 2

[spare pier]

That's the funny part I'm not explaining

[fierce pagoda]

maybe he is a bit of both

[split mortar]

I think both

[hoary cape]

Rebecca giving us info only to not finish

[fierce pagoda]

wow brain link

[snow mountain]

he is a secret third one no one knows about

[split mortar]

Grab as much god essence as you can and shove it back inside then use your own souls to help fill it

[spare pier]

There is actually a third secret one

[snow mountain]

flesh golem...

🫡

[fierce pagoda]

Since the Phantom heart is made up of souls, and eating it increases your mana capacity, does that imply that there is a link between Mana and your soul?

[spare pier]

Maybe?

[fierce pagoda]

could you perhaps, make an artificial soul from Mana?

[snow mountain]

I think you are looking too far into it

[spare pier]

Idk I didn't think that hard about that stuff

[fierce pagoda]

no i looked a the surface

you eat a soul heart, and it increases your mana

[snow mountain]

ok

[fierce pagoda]

1+1=2 type beat

[snow mountain]

it's literally called a soul heart because it sounds cool

[spare pier]

Mana is mostly a mental thing, that much is certain

[fierce pagoda]

its crafted from souls though

[snow mountain]

it sounds cool

[spare pier]

Astral Infection, and every Mana Upgrade having messages alluding to mental capacity

[fierce pagoda]

I agree it does sound cool

so whats this whole thing about mana being stored in the bones about

[snow mountain]

xenoblade ether...

[spare pier]

The way I view it, Mana Stars increase the Mana in your body, while every other upgrade increases your capacity of utilizing it

[snow mountain]

mana is stored in the balls

[spare pier]

With Phantom Heart being the extreme end of it, literally giving you multiple small, subjected minds that can order Mana around for you

[snow mountain]

did you come up with this on the spot?

[spare pier]

Yeah

Mana is tied to the mind > Increasing your mental capacity leads to better Mana efficiency > Giving yourself a lot of small brains increases your Mana

[fierce pagoda]

right, Soul heart gives you voices in your head

[cosmic zenith]

Man, I have such cool mana stuff for my fanfic.....

[fierce pagoda]

"You have already used a Phantom Heart. The voices are telling you it's a bad idea to use it again."

[snow mountain]

did illmeris have a costco branch

[dusk laurel]

I hope they did

Sunkco™️

[snow mountain]

I think so

it would look great on amiadas' resume

[hoary cape]

Azafure had a Walmart

Why wouldn't illmeris have a Costco

[snow mountain]

especially if he decides to persue a career in retail

[snow mountain]

fish eated it all .

[snow mountain]

it had a tesco

[hoary cape]

Nah azafure Walmart

It's clearly canon

[snow mountain]

it's canon, it's in the lore

it's the UK

[hoary cape]

Cal is British

Supposedly

But not really

[cloud ibex]

azafure is london

[snow mountain]

😔

[hoary cape]

You are London

[split mortar]

Kinda what I did headcanon with phantom heart…

[cloud ibex]

-source of the industrial revolution
-full of blade-wielding enemies
-located in hell

this is london

[split mortar]

And the fact that iirc the voice actor for scal is British in sbc

[cloud ibex]

she was yeah

[split mortar]

Well actress is the better word

[spare pier]

Fun fact actually

Fab wanted to make Cirrus canon so I said "yeah we just gotta change the blatant references she makes"

[snow mountain]

I think brimstone elemental should canonically have a tesco clubcard so she can get tesco clubcard points

[spare pier]

Cirrus has a line about Walmart

[split mortar]

Pfft

[mighty zenith]

didnt fab assume cirrus was canon at some point

i remember that being brought up either here or in cst

[hoary cape]

Give azafure Walmart then

[spare pier]

Yeah, and then I just mentioned our policy of dedicated content being non canon

[hoary cape]

But not a real one because copyright stuff probably

[manic coral]

"copyright" we aint selling copies of calamity

so

technically we could

[mighty zenith]

hasnt stopped nintendo

[snow mountain]

john calamity would come to your door

[sinful adder]

Ugh, really? They want to make cirrus canon?

Fuck that

[split mortar]

Calamity ninjas vs Nintendo lawyers

[wheat walrus]

nintendo still lowdiffs your verse dummy

[split mortar]

(Cal ninjas losing D:)

[hoary cape]

But terraria is so wouldn't that count

[split mortar]

But terraria isn’t in control of calamity

[spare pier]

Why the aggressive response?

Also we literally have a motherfucking Rotom pet

[wheat walrus]

because Cirrus is not sigma...

[split mortar]

Eat sand

[mighty zenith]

the ninjas are taking notes

[mighty zenith]

Eat clay

[wheat walrus]

rest in peace calamity mod see you in 10 months when nintendo will have completely destroyed all traces of terraria...

[wheat walrus]

you're straight up copying melon gun man...

[manic coral]

the idea of canon cirrus isnt one i totally vibe with myself but it's not like she can to be relevant to anything at all if that is done so

plus we have like

a bajillion more important things to do anyways

[spare pier]

She'd be entirely a self contained story so like, whatever

[manic coral]

so it's pretty far down the backlog

[spare pier]

And Calamity sorely lacks stories that just Happened with no connection whatsoever to the main story

And Cirrus is a perfect candidate for that

So

[wheat walrus]

can we blow up Garbo like that one move Vegeta did in the Namek Saga...

that'd be cool since he copied Melon Gun the goat

[sinful adder]

I don't like self inserts, especially not when they're canon

[pliant ruin]

what's wrong with self inserts tho

[mighty zenith]

if you love melon gun so much why don't you marry melon gun

[snow mountain]

do you think yharim had an asda near him

[spare pier]

Can you even call Cirrus a self insert if I'm the one writing for her?

[wheat walrus]

it is not love it is respect for the sigmatic grind

[pliant ruin]

toby fox has a self insert in undertale

and that guy is pretty chill

[wheat walrus]

and disrespect to those who copy the sigmatic grind

[sinful adder]

If it's changed from what it is now then it's not as bad

[wheat walrus]

Kishibe Rohan the goat...

[robust osprey]

ans it's the best self insert in history

I love that silly dgo

[sinful adder]

Yeah it's more that like

How do I explain

[pliant ruin]

kishibe "no guys its not a self insert i swear i promise" rohan

[manic coral]

i think self inserts can work if it's meant to be clearly comical or under very very very very certain conditions

[mighty zenith]

calling rohan a self insert will always be funny considering how fucking weird he is

its basically araki making fun of himself

[spare pier]

Rohan is a character who happens to be a self insert

[mighty zenith]

while also making himself the coolest character in the part

[spare pier]

WRONG

Kira

[mighty zenith]

ehhhhh

[wheat walrus]

Kira is cool yea

[split mortar]

I’m already taken so like

No

[pliant ruin]

WRONG

Tonio

[mighty zenith]

honestly i was never that big of a kira fan

[manic coral]

anyways back to permafrosting

[pliant ruin]

Kira is my favorite jojo villain

[mighty zenith]

actually true tho

[snow mountain]

I think that yharim went to at least one asda

[wheat walrus]

hai ragione fretm è il goat assoluto campione del mondo 🙏

[spare pier]

Kira is very much an inspiration to how I write villains in general ngl

The best part is that you see him fighting the protagonists before a fight even happens

[sinful adder]

Yeah I agree. I dislike when the self insert is just "haha! I'm the reality warping final boss that breaks the fourth wall and makes quippy jokes to the player throughout the game!"

[mighty zenith]

granted most of my opinions on jojo formed when i was a fucking idiot (3 or 4 years ago) so i probably should rewatch it

[spare pier]

You see him reacting to the character's doing shit and inching closer to busting him out

[sinful adder]

And current cirrus would be basically that if it were canon

[spare pier]

No what

If you're talking about the GFB fight

It's GFB

[wheat walrus]

the supreme alchemist bossfight in gfb.................

gfb is canon tho

it 100% is

[spare pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/704694434964439071/1284577245796634675/cat_gets_splash_stupid_idot.gif

[sinful adder]

Ok yeah fair but even current cirrus is the same personality to that

[robust osprey]

GFB is a joke made a terraria seed

[hoary cape]

They would change the lines of ciruss was made canon

[manic coral]

you know if i ever wrote stuff for permafrost in GFB

[sinful adder]

That's better

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah

[hoary cape]

Because 4th wall stuff

[manic coral]

i have no idea what the "joke" would be

[sinful adder]

"I think we're not in the canon timeline"

[manic coral]

like i generally have a good idea of what the "joke" for most characters would be if i ever did but

[sinful adder]

He's the Dr strange or something

[manic coral]

no that'd be calamitas' joke

her role as

[mighty zenith]

permafrost is replaced by a low rendered texture of fried chicken

[sinful adder]

Oh

[mighty zenith]

(cause pyrogen

[manic coral]

"the single normal person and the only one who notices anything is wrong"

[sinful adder]

I haven't played GFB yet

[cosmic zenith]

So true

[manic coral]

i think she'd be the funniest character to have in that scenerio

the route to take yharim is really fucking obvious

[mighty zenith]

actually what if permafrost just used out of context uncle iroh quotes

they're completely irrelevant and disconnected from each other

[wheat walrus]

what the fuck is a metaphor yharim, metaphors are like kilometers in calamity

[manic coral]

i will say im still mad that the concept for shimmered permafrost looking like Simon and shimmered Calamitas looking like Marciline were rejected

[manic coral]

i think i'd kill somebody to get those in

[mighty zenith]

alternatively, make his dialogue reference things from really really old calamity versions

[cosmic zenith]

I'm sad victorian-style alchemist Calamitas wasn't accepted

[mighty zenith]

he's just stuck in like 1.1.7

[spare pier]

Well, everyone on the Dev team is alive so you clearly didn't try hard enough

[manic coral]

that'd be Amidias' joke

[cosmic zenith]

Personally I don't really like her shimmer now

[pliant ruin]

holy

[manic coral]

he tries to give advice but for like

[fading helm]

Didnt know the cal npcs had shimered versions

[manic coral]

really outdated versions of cal

[cosmic zenith]

It could be waaaaaaaaaaaay cooler

[mighty zenith]

funnier actually

[manic coral]

not yet

[pliant ruin]

victorian gothic cal,,,

[wheat walrus]

You within 3 hours:

[spare pier]

Cei would never kill me

Probably

[fading helm]

Btw what was the lore of the shimmer in cal or is it just there?

[pliant ruin]

it's okay i can do that for her

[wheat walrus]

Plans are so far beyond everyone here...

[fading helm]

I never really heard about it

[split mortar]

We dunno currently

[hoary cape]

Saying the devs were alive reminded me of the time someone started a devs are actually just robots joke

[split mortar]

It’s just there for now

[cosmic zenith]

The odds of Cei committing murder are low... but never zero

[hoary cape]

Cei is going to murder in game instead of irl

[manic coral]

actually they're pretty high i maybe almost accidently have before

[wheat walrus]

My position as a threat so incomprehensible to not even be a threat remains firm..............................................

[manic coral]

im still unsure but

doubt ill know

[spare pier]

Tbh I think we should revise them later down the line

Excuse me what do you mean YOU DON'T KNOW IF YOU KILLED SOMEONE

[cosmic zenith]

Huh

[spare pier]

[cosmic zenith]

Did you like

[manic coral]

i said i didnt but maybe came close once

[cosmic zenith]

Give some kid expired food

[manic coral]

not beating the "cal fans cant read" allegations

[pliant ruin]

manslaughter gaming

[spare pier]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/767950470874398720/956000393773604874/E7cOxZZWQAE_I3C.gif

[fading helm]

I mean how do you even come close to it tho

did you almost kill them

or just tought

[manic coral]

i maybe almost did

[spare pier]

*Womanslaguther

[split mortar]

Nah no one can’t read

Devs nor fans

Only the haters :(

[wheat walrus]

I still win

fuck calamity man it's so mid............

[spare pier]

YOU are mid

[pliant ruin]

well i mean it depends does the man in manslaughter refer to the person doing it or the person being manslaughter'd

[spare pier]

👎

[fading helm]

Only i can read

[wheat walrus]

and you are shit

[spare pier]

:(

[hoary cape]

Not just cal fans the entire internet can't beat that allegation

[split mortar]

I will make you have the weird white guy from the terrarian meme as your pfp again

[fading helm]

Isnt manslaughter smth like murder with a car?

why is it called that anyways tho

[cosmic zenith]

This could be interpreted as "I'm still unsure whether I almost killed someone"
Just write better smh......

[pliant ruin]

if a nonbinary person manslaughtered a woman would that be a enbyslaughter or a womanslaughter

[split mortar]

It’s accidental killing

[hoary cape]

Manslaughter is accidental murder

[wheat walrus]

if that happens, I will be the only reason for that

[robust osprey]

very true

[wheat walrus]

and with this, I upscale myself one more within this verse

[hoary cape]

With a car it's vehicular manslaughter

[wheat walrus]

road to number 1 in the verse and im so close

[mighty zenith]

wokeslaughter

[manic coral]

honestly old lore was better because it made devourer of gods scale to ballshitassfartversal and we all know stronger characters = better writing

[pliant ruin]

this is the worst question i've ever asked i'm gonna go conquer venezuela now

[fading helm]

Nah as far as i know current lore is still megaversal

just ignore the author statements tho

[split mortar]

Literally saw this sort of thing in a comment section on YouTube today…

[pliant ruin]

current lore is glupversal

[fading helm]

the powerscalers know better

[pliant ruin]

it scales to glup

[cosmic zenith]

"This is some cool character backstory but can they beat Goku"

[wheat walrus]

woke's laughter wouldn't be hahahhahah more like gaygaygaygaygay

[hoary cape]

Should conquer the world instead

[manic coral]

(this isnt a diss on old lore to be clear people can prefer even if ill honestly never understand it just people who make that argument)

[mighty zenith]

would you believe me if i told you someone argued with me about that earlier today

[pliant ruin]

gaygaygaygaygay

[cosmic zenith]

Glup Fortnite no way

[wheat walrus]

dog could solo goku man...

[mighty zenith]

some guy just said that xeroc was ruined because he was given actual depth and stopped being just "overpowered guy who never shows up"

[pliant ruin]

goku cant beat beerus and beerus is a god

[wheat walrus]

why doesn't yharim transcend platonic concepts...........

[pliant ruin]

devourer of gods devours gods

[fading helm]

Only old lore I prefer is that one dude who wanted to achieve like inmortality but caused the trunda biome

[pliant ruin]

its as shrimple as that...

[fading helm]

that was cool icl

[cosmic zenith]

I assume he didn't word it like that

[robust osprey]

goku cant tank a dog head

[fading helm]

i dont remember his name tho

[pliant ruin]

daedalus probably

i forgor

[fading helm]

yeah that

[split mortar]

Because those concepts have the power of friendship or whatever the fuck plsonit means

[wheat walrus]

old lore dog would solo goku...

[mighty zenith]

not exactly like that but pretty close

[wheat walrus]

new lore bad

[cosmic zenith]

Guh