lore-discussion

[hoary berry]

every weapon i've used for fovos' half of the pairs have been crafts, not drops

[split mortar]

Lunar flare?

The funny book?

[hoary berry]

not used anymore

replaced by asteroid staff

[split mortar]

:(

So ml is crafts yharon is drops?

[hoary berry]

because

ready to fall upon the world with the force of a star once more
fits very well with meteors and stuff in cal

[split mortar]

True

[dusk laurel]

oogly boogly

[hoary berry]

yes but not really intentionally

i'm just keeping it consistent at this point

i could probably come up with a justification for it

[split mortar]

70% of ml drops being memes

[hoary berry]

i meant one related to the story

but yeah meowmere isn't exactly fitting

[faint plank]

-# but mreows

[split mortar]

nah moonlord is a meme lord

[dusk laurel]

-# Mrrow

[split mortar]

“I WAS DARED TO DUNK ON THESE BIRDS AND I AINT A QUITTER!”

[hoary berry]

okay but actually

there are only three of these according to recipe finder

(yharon soul fragment weapon crafts)

and i've already written an entry for The Wand

[split mortar]

lmao

[hoary berry]

i might do a silly and pair yharon crafts with moon lord drops

The Wand with Last Prism, Dragon Pow with Star Wrath and Drataliornus with Celebration Mk2

these entries wouldn't be focused on fovos or yharon though

rather, what the terrarian can do with the power they left behind

in the form of luminite and soul fragments

also Yharim's Crystal exists but that gets a short, special entry

[faint plank]

o:

[hoary berry]

and i don't feel like rewriting it so i'm just gonna leave it as is

[split mortar]

Would any ml drops or anything like it also get one?

[hoary berry]

i might do more entries for them that are similar to #lore-discussion message , but yermes cristal is meant to be unique

[light linden]

yermes cristal?

[cloud ibex]

it throughs a pice of dnmite....

[light linden]

?

[split mortar]

If you haven’t killed yharon is throws dynamite

Or atleast used to

[light linden]

I've beaten the game thrice lmao

[pliant ruin]

hiii

[light linden]

mods are here, scatter

[split mortar]

Nah the mods are fine

-# the perms aren’t but that’s being talked about internally

[cloud ibex]

holy fuck where

i gotta get outta here

[split mortar]

Be still, ones one’s on you

[hoary cape]

Can you like you know stop bringing that up lol

[split mortar]

Aight

[hoary cape]

Thank you

[pliant ruin]

meow

[split mortar]

Dog behaviour

[light linden]

would y'all say it's reasonable to say yharon is the cause of the crusade?

[cloud ibex]

depends on how far up the chain of events you want to go

[hoary berry]

^

the crusade only occurred because a lot of other events occurred in the past

but in terms of an individual person i don't think it's unreasonable to say that yharon is among the most prominent causes, if not the most important

[cloud ibex]

yharim started the crusade because yharon told him about the extinction of the dragons because he hatched early because a group of gods tossed him into lava because he didn't want to absorb yharon's soul which they wanted him to because they wanted him to be the God-King because there were so many gods because they had been slowly picked off over the course of hundreds of years because someone saw Xeroc absorbing Zeratros' soul because Zeratros was mortally wounded and possibly about to die forever because ML invaded and did Something to him because ???

there's, like, ten different steps here with, like, six different people or groups that could be blamed for the crusade

[spring helm]

it would not have gained any traction if there weren't at least some evil gods, so they share some of the blame as well

[wheat walrus]

Nothing happened on 7 december 2024

[spare pier]

If your definition of "who caused the Crusade" is "which character act would have catalyzed it"

It can go from Yharim deciding to do it, to the first Dragon claiming an Auric Soul

[light linden]

hey rebecca

[spare pier]

Hi :D

[light linden]

How do you think draedon would react if his exo mechs were beaten with a copper shortsword?

[high lynx]

But then again that only happened because the dragons were weakened immensely by fovos

[high lynx]

He’d make an exo shortsword

[spare pier]

Tremendously dumbfounded

[high lynx]

But we would finally have a fourth calamity shortsword

[faint plank]

werent exos beaten with a wand of sparking already

[high lynx]

Probably i haven’t seen tho

[faint plank]

oh it was myra

[high lynx]

Wand of sparking is a really good early game weapon tbh

[faint plank]

guh

[high lynx]

Wand of frosting better tho

[split mortar]

Damn, dragon of life causes world wars

[high lynx]

Oh i read that crap wrong tbh i thought it was saying when the first god stole an auric soul

But then again the dragons only exist because they happened to evolve

I think

I dont know dragon origins tbh

[dusk laurel]

Clearly this all started when the universe was created

[spring helm]

dragons came about naturally, auric dragons happened because of world soul shenanigans

[high lynx]

But the universe only had to be created because it didnt exist before

[split mortar]

The world soul made the universe simple

[high lynx]

So it’s nothings fault that the crusade happened

[spare pier]

Pretty much this, yeah

[high lynx]

Ok thats what i assumed

[split mortar]

Life dragon causing world wars crazy

[light linden]

oh also rebecca

[high lynx]

Oh also hello people it’s been a while since i was here

[light linden]

you mentioned some of the gods were based on the tribunal from tes right?

[split mortar]

Hai

[high lynx]

I need to write lore bite number three when i get home

But what about…

Prolly queen bee and skele related stuff

[dusk laurel]

How

How did melon react to this

[hoary berry]

prikki retracted their reaction

they were the one who first placed it

[dusk laurel]

Okay I assumed smth like that was the case

[spare pier]

Fuck is that?

[light linden]

ig that's a no then

maybe I'm misremembering something

[cloud ibex]

cei might've

i think she's an elder scrolls player

[heavy ermine]

After the calamity mod fully releases and we get all the reworks and bosses… we should get another even harder mod. About like, the lore, like how cyberpunk 2077 has edgerunners to portray how the past leading up to these events were

That would be so cool

Like a past calamity

Like what was old duke like, in his prime..

The “first Fishrons”

[split mortar]

Do we know if old duke is weaker or not?

[cloud ibex]

personally i don't think terraria needs to be an ultra difficult game

[split mortar]

There’s already master death

[deft vessel]

Thats the bs difficulity

[split mortar]

Personally I think other mediums of storytelling would be better for telling stuff like the past

[mighty zenith]

or, you know

something other than a mod

like edgerunners

[heavy ermine]

A GAME?!

[heavy ermine]

Ew no

I want a game

:<

[mighty zenith]

nuh uh

i don't think you could really convey the lore as a separate game

like
even if unrealistic, a comic or animated series would be way better for that

[high lynx]

Calamity anime

Calamity is already anime core

[brave dew]

for sure but ngl having a calamity based game would be hella cool

[spring helm]

Braelor and Statis spin off anime

[brave dew]

rn having cal as a mod is cool and all but calamity is big enough to be a game of it's own

[dusk laurel]

[brave dew]

plushies, addons, youtubers

i dont remember the number of download for the mod

[dusk laurel]

6 million

[brave dew]

damn

that's like

10% of every terraria player ever

there's 60m copies sold

[light linden]

random thing

what the hell is skeletron in lore?

[brave dew]

sand undrtale

i think skeletron was employed by some guy in the dungeon to protect it

or smthin

idr

[dusk laurel]

[split mortar]

Guy tried robbing dragon cult

Got caught

They cursed them

Curse is Skeletron

[light linden]

kinda

[split mortar]

Swore it was more

[light linden]

lacking for lore

[split mortar]

Don’t see how a security camera can have much lore

[brave dew]

6m is already more than a lot of games

and calamity is just a mod

[dusk laurel]

Skeletron is just like, a normal dude who got caught by the Dragoncult

[split mortar]

I know

[split mortar]

🐌

[dusk laurel]

Die

I was just saying the likely reason why Skeletron doesn't have much lore

[light linden]

most curses don't turn you into a giant skull

[pliant ruin]

most curses aren't really

real

[dusk laurel]

[pliant ruin]

for all i know there could be a curse that turns you into a beluga whale

[brave dew]

best curse ever

[light linden]

tf is a beluga whale?

[pliant ruin]

but yeh skeletron dosen't really have much in terms of lore

[split mortar]

Tbf that isn’t really a problem

[pliant ruin]

could use some more i suppose but i'm not really sure what else could be explored

he's kinda just

there

at best i can see maybe the clothier himself getting more lore

[dusk laurel]

Yeah

[split mortar]

And isn’t strong enough to do shit for polter or the angy souls

[brave dew]

cant send images here fk

[light linden]

?????

[brave dew]

bruh

[dusk laurel]

Creature

[brave dew]

basically this

fatass

[light linden]

that thing looks like a plushie

[dusk laurel]

If animals are real then that isn't really that strange

[pliant ruin]

There's much weirder things out there

[light linden]

lampreys?

[brave dew]

blob fish

or that one fish that goes boom boom when at surface

[delicate nova]

Rude

[red wadi]

the place

helo again

[split mortar]

Hai

[indigo glade]

Blobfish are actually quite normal.

[light linden]

ok

[brave dew]

not at surface

[red wadi]

whats new

[light linden]

still doesn't change the fact that I find them creepy

[indigo glade]

You can say this about all deep sea animals.

[dusk laurel]

You know what else is creepy

[split mortar]

Well yeah, humans don’t look normal in the vacuum of space without a space suite on

[delicate nova]

Can’t believe you find me weird and creepy 💔

[brave dew]

i mean i dont think those colossal squids change much but basically yes you can

[light linden]

manchineel trees?

[dusk laurel]

[delicate nova]

When we have platypuses 💔

[brave dew]

ninja's low taper fade

horrifying

[light linden]

?

[dusk laurel]

Those are normal imo

[brave dew]

platypuses are normal on the outside

they just look like

beaver

with no teeth

[dusk laurel]

Everything except for viruses are normal

[brave dew]

but when you go in depth theyre much weirder

[dusk laurel]

Like what even are they

[light linden]

what

[split mortar]

What

[brave dew]

what

[red wadi]

that first part doesn't sound terribly fitting

[light linden]

counterpoint, pelicans

[delicate nova]

I mean a bill isn’t really what you expect for a mammal

[dusk laurel]

Those are normal smh

[light linden]

they vomit up their spine to cool down

[brave dew]

what is weird about platypuses on the outside is just that they look like a mix of beaver and duck

[dusk laurel]

I don't see the issue here

[delicate nova]

Fair

[red wadi]

big man

[split mortar]

Well that sounds effective

[red wadi]

last i remember

musclebound warrior type

[brave dew]

the whole other stuff is only seen after searching for i yk

it

[red wadi]

did my eyes not interpret the concept art correctly

[brave dew]

like the fact that male platypuses are venomous

or that females sweat milk for their kids

[red wadi]

ahh...when everything is a role reversal nothing is a role reversal ☕

[split mortar]

^

[red wadi]

sure it does

👽

[delicate nova]

And then they glow under uv light for some reason

[light linden]

anyways

[red wadi]

I think it would be best for my safety not to indulge in the details of these things

That didn't go so well for me last time

[light linden]

braelor is the plant guy correct?

[cloud ibex]

yes

[dusk laurel]

Yep

[light linden]

still hoping we'll get more lore about them someday

[dusk laurel]

We will

[split mortar]

Plant guy who fought yharim to a standstill

[dusk laurel]

[split mortar]

The guy will be a npc so like

Yeah

[dusk laurel]

Statis also will be an npc so

[red wadi]

I'll be an npc so

[dusk laurel]

Proof? Evidence?

[split mortar]

Dev statements?

[red wadi]

over there.

[dusk laurel]

Where?

[red wadi]

that way

[dusk laurel]

Which way?

[split mortar]

What way?

[red wadi]

left

[light linden]

[dusk laurel]

Speaking of Braelor and Statis, the future content doc needs a slight update about them

[brave dew]

look under there !!

[dusk laurel]

Nah

No thanks

[brave dew]

b-but

there's something under there !!§

[sinful adder]

Not even fought to a standstill, he was less than 10 seconds from beating yharim

[split mortar]

Wasn’t it statis who was going to do the actual killing blows

[sinful adder]

I don't think so

[light linden]

then DoG jumped them?

[split mortar]

Yes

Statis' compatriot Braelor dueled me to a standstill. With our blades locked, the ronin lunged for the lethal blow.

Isn’t the ronin statis

[sinful adder]

Oh, good point

Yeah I think so

[split mortar]

Then yeah braelor gave a opening for statis

[sinful adder]

Braelor has yharim's back to a wall and their blades are clashing, statis dashes towards yharim, then DoG opens a portal and sucks them up

[split mortar]

Yuh

[dusk laurel]

DoG trying not to be a malicious, malevolent entity

[split mortar]

Dog is a fraudulous bitch and should be ashamed

[pliant ruin]

@split mortar @light linden @red wadi don't talk about this stuff, this is a 13+ server, ty

[light linden]

roger roger

[split mortar]

Aight

Didn’t know it was a problem since reb said it (wasn’t aware it was only in that context)

Now that I know I won’t bring it up again

[faint plank]

||-# sigmalicious||

[dusk laurel]

[split mortar]

Die

Explode even

[mighty zenith]

[split mortar]

🚿

[red wadi]

really makes you think doesnt it

[noble niche]

Is slime god canonically poly?

[light linden]

huh?

where did that come from lmao

[split mortar]

What was the bloodmoon lore that was dropped a bit ago? Missed it

[spring helm]

Poly as in…?

[dusk laurel]

Dreadnautilus: The intense red glow of the Blood Moon becomes even greater in contact with water, making aquatic creatures affected even more than others. This enormous shelled water demon directly feeds off that energy, responding brutally to being pestered.

[spring helm]

Lore

Oh that lore

[dusk laurel]

Evil light

[split mortar]

Aight thanks

[hybrid barn]

Or rather than exuding, it like...warps the primordial light it reflects in such a way that it makes the entire continent cranky

[noble niche]

Amerous

[spring helm]

hm...

well there's no evidence otherwise so i suppose you could say so

[brave dew]

I dont think it is

It's more like

Slavery

Mixed with puppeteer

[merry perch]

what is lore behind vernal pass

and why is there no ruins of the civilization once in the desert

[dusk laurel]

They got burnt away

And the Vernal Pass was a part of a civilization that made Plantera for better farming

[Didn't work out]

[split mortar]

Scal used fires and burnt it to dust probably

Also arguably the desert houses may be ruins

[split mortar]

[turns out getting 1 thousand angry souls and giving them a body doesn’t work well]

[dusk laurel]

Ruins might get added in the Underground Desert iirc

The Desert houses don't really fit that description

[fierce pagoda]

Is the dragon aerie a flying island? or is it something different

[dusk laurel]

Yeah it's a floating island

[merry perch]

according to draedon

[split mortar]

Flying island but like magic shinanigans that make accessing it harder then alternate dimensions

[merry perch]

he could not find nay floating islands

because it was hidden

[fierce pagoda]

If we didnt have the ceasless void, how would one enter the distortion

[dusk laurel]

It's been confirmed by devs iirc

[fierce pagoda]

without using signus

would dreadon find a way

[split mortar]

Signus
Flame of oblivion
Dog will take us there

[merry perch]

but the in game draedon convo AHHHH

[dusk laurel]

Womp womp

[merry perch]

peenar

[split mortar]

Draedon was correct then

[fierce pagoda]

but like without any outside help from anything thats from the distortion

is there any way to make a portal yourself

[dusk laurel]

I don think so

[split mortar]

Pretty sure yeah

Just that no one really knows how to rn

[fierce pagoda]

Noxus made the ceasless void right?

[split mortar]

Permafrost probably could whip something up given time

[split mortar]

Yes

[fierce pagoda]

and hes not a being of both dimensions, like signus

[split mortar]

Dog can make portals and isn’t a being of both worlds aswell

[fierce pagoda]

yeah right, he must have a lot of energy to spend then

since the bestiary entry for cosmic mine i think? mentiones that making portals take a lot of energy

unless you are a being of both worlds

[split mortar]

Yuh

Even signus can’t hold portals for long

[fierce pagoda]

what does being of both worlds even mean and how is Signus one

Yeah Noxus isnt even abeing of both worlds, but his portal lasts wayyyy longer than any of Signuses

[split mortar]

Born of both terraria and distortion I think

[fierce pagoda]

So Signus is on the same level as Noxus in terms if hieracrhy right?

[split mortar]

Yuh

[fierce pagoda]

than does that mean he is also high up in terrarias hierarchy?

since hes also a terraria creature

[split mortar]

Probably?

Maybe hierchy works different in distortion

[fierce pagoda]

actuually how does hierarchy really work in distortion

[split mortar]

We don’t know

But I’d guess not raw power

[fierce pagoda]

is it political you think

[split mortar]

Otherwise noxus would be top guy

[split mortar]

I don’t know enough about how politics work to know

[fierce pagoda]

lol

could there maybe be something even higher than Noxus in the hierarchy?

I don't think so actually

who would Noxus answer to, he seems like the big bad thing

[split mortar]

Don’t think so

Cause Noxus don’t have a boss

[fierce pagoda]

unless thats like a plot twist

[split mortar]

I would dislike if they do that

[fierce pagoda]

imagine if the lore writers have just been lying about noxus being the second final boss and stuff

only to reveal hes not the big bad

when the noxus update drops

[split mortar]

Yharim is the big bad I’m pretty sure

Due to being final boss

[fierce pagoda]

the big bad of the distortion

i meant

[split mortar]

Ah ok

It’s nearly mifnight my brain is scframbledg

[fierce pagoda]

What if it turns out Noxus used signus to open the portal

and then Noxus sustains it

[split mortar]

Maybe?

[fierce pagoda]

hmm the cosmic mines entry states that it takes great energy to open a rift in space, to make a portal

[split mortar]

I thyink it’s unlikely to be the case but probably theoretically possible

[fierce pagoda]

but not much more than that

like is all you need to make a portal to just blast open air with enough energy?

[split mortar]

Don’t think so

Cause dog don’t have much magic I think

[fierce pagoda]

well we know a bit more about how portals work at least

[split mortar]

Yea

[fierce pagoda]

they require a ton of energy, and will explode

after a while

unless you're Noxus and have plot powers to keep the portal open

forever

[split mortar]

I think the “plot power” is just noxus being wacky strong

[fierce pagoda]

I think so too

but still, i think its funny to call it that until it gets revealed how he actually does it

and thinking about it, what is Noxus's pronouns

is it really a he

[dusk laurel]

It/it

[fierce pagoda]

its kinda funny

calling noxus for him

[dusk laurel]

Oh yeah I almost forgot

[dusk laurel]

Uses anti-curse spell on your teeth

I am sabotaging Seeker since I think it's funny

[fierce pagoda]

woah did you lift seeker's curse on me

[split mortar]

Curses you with scoks curse

[fierce pagoda]

What the hell is that!?

[split mortar]

Whar

[dusk laurel]

scok = Seeker of Knowledge

[fierce pagoda]

Oh it was an acronym

wait what does the C stand for

[dusk laurel]

Nothing, it's pointless

I abbreviated SoK once

And they got offended so

[fierce pagoda]

O <-- this is pointless

its a circle

[dusk laurel]

Do you guys think SG has talked to anyone in a while

Other than an Onyx Kinsman

[split mortar]

To avoid calling scok “sock” I changed placement of the c

[split mortar]

No

[fierce pagoda]

Do you think Statis dislikes Slime god now

[dusk laurel]

Maybe?

[fierce pagoda]

since Slime god left his worshippers according to Yharim

[dusk laurel]

Since SG was an Onyx Kinsman iirc

[fierce pagoda]

yharaganda

[dusk laurel]

He might feel betrayed

[fierce pagoda]

is there any reason slime god picks a fight with us

[dusk laurel]

Paranoia

[fierce pagoda]

is it actually cuz we kill slimes

and he wants vengeance

[dusk laurel]

I have no clue tbh

[split mortar]

Well slime god is centuries old

Statis would have grown up when slime god didn’t care for them

[dusk laurel]

True

[fierce pagoda]

his despawn message mentioens his vengance is fullfilled

and those are canon

[dusk laurel]

What if Statis sends us to kill him

[fierce pagoda]

Thats what im thinking

[dusk laurel]

So the "vengeance" is just to get back at Statis, maybe some other reasons too

[fierce pagoda]

really having NPC's give us quests throughout the game is gonna fill out the gameplay i feel

to not just be a bossrush late game

[dusk laurel]

We know 2 npcs who will give out quests rn

[fierce pagoda]

hope statis gives you rewards and stuff

[dusk laurel]

Amidias and Statis

[fierce pagoda]

wow i have an oral exam in like 11 hours, and i have not even started on the presentation

im lowkey cooked

[dusk laurel]

[fierce pagoda]

do you think there's a chance that Permafrost

[dusk laurel]

You should get started

[fierce pagoda]

will also get quests?

[dusk laurel]

Maybe? But what would he really need, other than defeating SCal maybe

[fierce pagoda]

Idk, doing things in the ice biome for him maybe

and thats how you unlock cryonic ore

but maybe that would be annoying

and less player friendly since people will be like "how do you get cryonic ore"

not knowing it has been changed

[faint plank]

sig

[hoary cape]

what

[light linden]

ngl I hope we get info as to how yharim killed some gods

[sinful adder]

please explain, I'm not sure what you mean

oh

[light linden]

I forgot to say how sorry

[sinful adder]

he fought them himself

[light linden]

cause despite him killing literal gods we know very little about how the fights went down

[sinful adder]

gods in calamity are very powerful, but they're mortal, and someone with enough raw strength and skill can kill them

[frozen zodiac]

i had an idea a while back what if one of the late game bosses like providence had hunters launch surprise attacks on the terrarian

would that work in canon

[sinful adder]

we fight one of the weakest gods, slime god, and one of the strongest, providence. It was very similar to that.

[light linden]

think he pulled an Optimus Prime "I've had enough" on one of em?

[sinful adder]

idk what that is

[light linden]

1 sec

[split mortar]

To my 1 am brains knowledge

That might be what the profaned guardians do?

[light linden]

https://youtu.be/VQkYiD4acIo?si=k7CvRYAAhJyTv687&t=90

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/ip-grabber-ip-grabber-thanos-gif-21846609

[light linden]

lmao

[dusk laurel]

Leon, the IP grabbing joke hath returned

[light linden]

both of our embeds don't work

[split mortar]

I knew mine wouldn’t

[cloud ibex]

☹️

[light linden]

basically

optimus prime pulls a mortal kombat finisher

[hoary cape]

embedded failure moment

[split mortar]

Mine was intentional

[frozen zodiac]

i guess, i meant more like when you step into a biome there's a chance a fast moving assassin or something will try to shamk you out of nowhere as a rare enemy

[violet sparrow]

why not

it’d work until people flooded the suggestions channel

[split mortar]

-# scorn eater does that does it not

[light linden]

oh it's the rare scal dialogue guy

hello there

[violet sparrow]

everything has to be prompted by the terrarian in some way

[frozen zodiac]

I dont remember P-ML enemy names and yet i INSTANTLY know which one you're talking about

[light linden]

holy hell I hate scorn eaters

[violet sparrow]

i dont know who you’re talking about

[light linden]

what

did

[split mortar]

Mrrp is cringe

[dusk laurel]

Hello Nathaniel

Welcome to Calmain

[light linden]

did I forget to take my schizophrenia medication again?

[hoary cape]

nathanial is the best admin

[light linden]

I

[hoary cape]

named nathanial

[light linden]

brb I gotta check

[frozen zodiac]

you ate a lemon

[dusk laurel]

I know who you are

[hoary cape]

people who know who nathanial are get auto banned sorry

[dusk laurel]

Spectacular

[split mortar]

“Gecko is cringe” - supreme brimstone witch calamitas

[frozen zodiac]

what about Gex

[violet sparrow]

do they still just hop around and shit

[hoary cape]

what did i do melon gun

[split mortar]

Auto ban vanillin

-# I’m aware you didn’t actually do that

[hoary cape]

i don't make the rules

[light linden]

yes

[dusk laurel]

Hey

[split mortar]

You decided to enforce them

[light linden]

[split mortar]

Almost like I can hear them still

[dusk laurel]

:/

[hoary cape]

i wish vanilla was still here

[split mortar]

Same

[hoary cape]

the lore channel will never be the same

[split mortar]

[frozen zodiac]

someone play Stained Brutal Calamity (Acceptance)

[light linden]

I would but my embed perms are dead

[dusk laurel]

Everyone's is

[hoary cape]

yes

[split mortar]

Doesn’t stop you from posting the link anyways

(unless that’s not allowed?)

You’ll just be called an ip grabber

[spring helm]

Stained_Brutal_Calamity.mp3

[fierce pagoda]

Out of all the gods we know of, is Providence 4th place?

[frozen zodiac]

anyways which calamity boss would make the best pet i think dog would be the worst cat ever

[spring helm]

i suppose so

[fierce pagoda]

1st Xeroc
2nd gravity god
3rd Silva
4th Provi

[spring helm]

maybe 5th actually

Ravager is stronger?

[fierce pagoda]

oh right forgot about him

he will be post provi one day

[light linden]

goozma

[fierce pagoda]

but was he stronger pre necromancy, or was he stronger only after he was revived

[light linden]

they are two gods iirc

[spring helm]

idk

[frozen zodiac]

My brain is filled with pokemon info now remind me who goozma is

[fierce pagoda]

Im goozing

[spring helm]

goozma nuts

[light linden]

https://tenor.com/view/goozma-calamity-terraria-modded-hunt-of-the-old-god-gif-2570459722325149355

oh bloody hell

[spring helm]

lol

lmao

[spring helm]

slime

with

[split mortar]

Rebecca said god of sacrifice was weaker then providence

[spring helm]

chromatic auric soul

[light linden]

here's a question

[fierce pagoda]

Then 4th place it is for providence!

[spring helm]

hey

[split mortar]

But ravager is above providence

[fierce pagoda]

Does ravager count as a god for you guys

[light linden]

would yharim revere or revile goozma?

[fierce pagoda]

i mean i gueess he does

he still has his god soul

[spring helm]

not really, unless you count the evil biome bosses as gods

[fierce pagoda]

or whats left of it

[split mortar]

Yes, it’s a being who absorbed a auric soul

And is alive

[light linden]

cause they're a being with their own auric soul not gotten from a dragon

[fierce pagoda]

Alright Popcorn says no and melon says yes

[light linden]

but we don't know if they're sentient

[fierce pagoda]

Yharon called Astrum Deus a sinless god

or a guiltfree god or something along those lines

so i think he would be okay with goozmer

[frozen zodiac]

Deus is just being a worm

[sinful adder]

Yes because not really a god by the calamity definition

[spring helm]

i guess so

[fierce pagoda]

but i dont think he would necessarily like it

[light linden]

still wonder if goozma is sentient

[spring helm]

i mean doesn't yharim have a lore item for goozma in the addon

[light linden]

they're clearly strong

[spring helm]

 A most chilling upset, in the hierarchical dominion of all things living.

To think the culmination of the lowest echelon of creatures could nevertheless possess an Auric soul, despite lacking any draconic heritage…
It became something greater, approaching a perfect being comprised of naught but imperfect parts...perhaps what truly makes a God will forever be unknown.
My apprehension towards your catalysis of this veritable harbinger of destruction’s cultivation is outweighed by my curiosity towards it.
What could have influenced the form that it took? Its appearance belies the finesse and sophistication of the manipulation of its subjects.
What a pity it is that the fruits of its effort came to nothing, in the end. An unremitting pattern in the cyclic annals of history.
Perhaps, from the perspective of Terraria, our own achievements amount to little more than the impotent writhing of slimes.

so

doesn't hate goozma as a god

but like

"wtf why does a slime have that"

[light linden]

but if they have the mind of a slime they're a threat

[fierce pagoda]

suraimu

[light linden]

?

[spring helm]

weeb

[fierce pagoda]

Slime said by a japanese man

[light linden]

oh

[fierce pagoda]

or woman

i dont judge

[spring helm]

go gender neutral and say Jap
don't say this

[real silo]

yapanese

[light linden]

just realized

what

what gender is goozma?

[fierce pagoda]

slime

i dont think he has one

[dusk laurel]

Amoeba goop

[light linden]

i.g. non-binary would be the most fitting

since they're multiple beings working as one

[spring helm]

are they?

[fierce pagoda]

Like what gender does a single cell have? it doesnt really apply to that kind of life form

[frozen zodiac]

i think when you're the culmination of an entire species and seemingly a god or whatever gender just stops being a concern

[light linden]

it's not single celled

[spring helm]

agender could work

[fierce pagoda]

no but i was using a comparison

to help visualize my point

[light linden]

it's every slime forced into one being

ah

[spring helm]

in my headcanon slimes are like the closest thing to a macro organism that is single-celled

since they're made of gel

[light linden]

speaking of slimes

[pliant ruin]

i don't think goozma is sapient enough to pick a gender for itself

[fierce pagoda]

Were thinking mor biological

[spring helm]

it's got an auric soul

[pliant ruin]

and biologically uh

[spring helm]

the world will choose for it

[pliant ruin]

i don't think it has one

it's a blob

[fierce pagoda]

yeah i agree

[light linden]

if we got the chance to would y'all wanna go to the dimension astrageldon consumed?

[pliant ruin]

the whar

[spring helm]

yeah gender is kinda pointless biologically for an organism that reproduces asexually

oh

aroace representation number 2

[light linden]

in astrageldon's lore it gained the power of a black hole and then consumed a whole universe

[pliant ruin]

catalyst lore

[spring helm]

what if there was no dimension left becuase it ate through space-time as well

[fierce pagoda]

slime-time

[spring helm]

oh shit, new idea for meow mix

[light linden]

oh and it also supposedly achieved godhood

[spring helm]

did it? i thought that was just goozma

[light linden]

it consumed an entire universe

both did

[split mortar]

It absorbed a entire universe

Auric souls would likely reside in it

[light linden]

just the astrageldon we fight is but a probe

[spring helm]

yeah but you need to do a ritual to become a god, nto just eat the soul

[light linden]

so the main body is still somewhere

[pliant ruin]

I don't honestly have any interest in catalyst lore so i don't know what to comment

slime go brr

[maiden kettle]

sentient boogers

[spring helm]

wait is that actually the lore

[light linden]

from what I know yes

[spring helm]

i was wondering why a slime that ate an entire universe was so low in the boss progression

[light linden]

supposedly the haze around us in the second phase is the main body

[cosmic zenith]

Goozma is literally Slime God but super buff, isn't it

[light linden]

and we're seeing debris from the consumed universe in the background

[light linden]

goozma is every slime in existence compressed into a single being

[pliant ruin]

Goozma in actual old lore was just super buff slime god

Goozma from the addon is - yeah

[spring helm]

i think that's just the boss summon

[light linden]

technically speaking it's supposed to be a ritual

[spring helm]

wait i just read the Draedon dialogue for goozma

[hoary cape]

Goozma evolved into noxus eventually

[spring helm]

Though your naming ability leaves much to be desired, I must commend your ability to leave nothing unstudied, no matter how well documented said creature may be-

lmao

[light linden]

yeah even draedon's not sure about how it had an auric soul

wait a moment

if it had an auric soul could yharon revive it?

[spring helm]

perhaps

i will ask lore god

@cosmic zenith could Yharon revive anything that has an auric soul

[cosmic zenith]

Unclear

Possibly

[spring helm]

unfortunately, in the HotOG addon you do eat Yharon's soul so that avenue is gone

[light linden]

you don't have to

[spring helm]

im pretty sure you automatically absorb it when you get close enough

[cosmic zenith]

Btw I managed to make exactly 10 anatomy cards, so I'll post a spoiler for the Vanilla Bestiary rewrite in #calamity-update-talk

[spring helm]

woo!

[dusk laurel]

Splendid

[tall delta]

yeah he is a fetus, too young to think about genders probably

[spring helm]

Summons a Slime Deity
'A dessert fit for a god!'

alright i guess Astrageldon is a god after all

my bad

[tall delta]

pretty sure that will be changed

[light linden]

idk why

[tall delta]

and it'll probably be "this slime eat stars!!!"

[light linden]

it's an add-on

[tall delta]

they'll probably follow calamity powerscale

[light linden]

again idk why they would

the astrageldon we fight is just a probe

[tall delta]

erm what

that is atrageldon

the real thing

oh yeah hotog is giving old duke an auric soul

[spring helm]

wuh

[tall delta]

cant send the video here, too bad

[dusk laurel]

Is it the radiodactive one

The green

[cosmic zenith]

What's the logic behind that? 🤨

[tall delta]

yah

[cosmic zenith]

That's cool though

[tall delta]

powerful 3% stat buff

[hoary cape]

Old duke is becoming a more proper dragon, but even still he is an offshoot iirc

Probably more of a descendant

[dusk laurel]

He is a direct descendant of Frost

[real silo]

Auric soul of cancer

[hoary cape]

Yah and that doesn't give him an auric soul

[dusk laurel]

Yeah ik

[hoary cape]

Smh add-on mods

[dusk laurel]

Manage your company smh

[tall delta]

yeah od is like frost dragon first son

[dusk laurel]

Yah

[tall delta]

and he hates him

because he is pig

[dusk laurel]

And OD hates his children

[tall delta]

the tradition

[real silo]

Hating sons runs in the family

[dusk laurel]

Generational hating

OD even enslaves his kin smh

[bold panther]

hmm

skibidi toilet…

[dusk laurel]

[tall delta]

also iirc they are half pig because they were cursed

frost dragon got a bittt too hungry

[glacial rampart]

how hungry.

[tall delta]

to the point where he ate 3 auric souls(in the addon)

idk what he did in official lore

[dusk laurel]

Dragon of Gluttony got a bit silly

[dawn kiln]

Is 9’ yharim canon

[wheat walrus]

kinda

based on some pixel measurement on the latest concept art you do get a similar height, but that's based on calamitas' height since she is there, and we also don't know her true height (iirc I used her ingame height, not the current one I think)

beyond that, I think some devs do talk about Yharim being that tall but it's not something hard-confirmed both by devs and by ingame knowledge (keep in mind, a lot of what the devs say will be canon but isn't currently, the true solid canon is what's ingame)

[heavy ermine]

Does Yharim have rizz

[visual bane]

yharizz

[dusk laurel]

No

He is maidenless

[scenic olive]

Yhaura

[sinful adder]

In a way, absolutely. He's a politician, he convinced millions of people to support him and join his cause

[cosmic minnow]

Can’t believe I woke up and read about yharizz

[hoary cape]

A topic we don't discuss

[wheat walrus]

The idea of politicians convincing people just being unspoken rizz is horrific

[sinful adder]

I'm using the original meaning, charisma

[ionic fjord]

Is there anylore behind The Terrarian or nah?

[hoary cape]

The terrarian lore is up to you

[ionic fjord]

Makes sense.

[sinful adder]

We can't post the image anymore

Ooh, stickers work, can it be a sticker?

[wheat walrus]

"Our glorious Yharim Potato Pizza, their barbarous Terrarian Lore"

[hoary cape]

You can use stickers

Just not excessively

[scenic olive]

no don't say that

[hoary cape]

It's true

[cosmic minnow]

Why is there so many trial mods, omg

I come back after mod applications and suddenly everyone I saw on a regular is a mod

[hoary cape]

There is only like 5 of us

[sinful adder]

Could you please make the "terrarian lore is up to you!" Image be a sticker? It would be really funny

[hoary berry]

Already exists

Elsewhere

But I might nuke it

Need to conserve sticker slots

[sinful adder]

That's a different server, doesn't count

You also don't have to include the "we suck at naming" part

[hoary berry]

Blame melon for that

Blame me for the sticker name

[spring helm]

Destroy it

[dusk laurel]

Kill

[hoary berry]

the deed has been done

overused_image.png is no more

[dusk laurel]

You can delete this now

[split mortar]

WHY

[devout grotto]

I finally filled out the character inspo board fully for Amatsumara but I can't send the image 💔💔💔💔

[untold oracle]

:):)

[devout grotto]

But uh it's just

• Qlipoth (HSR)
• Zhongli (Genshin)
• Mavuika (Also Genshin)
• The actual Amatsumara/Amenomahitotsu
• Inari Ōkami
• Hephaestus

[frank dune]

Hello

[untold oracle]

Haii

Haiaiai

[fierce pagoda]

helloster

[woeful hatch]

Whenever I read Qlipoth I can't help but think of the qliphort archetype from Yu-Gi-Oh

[faint plank]

|| 😨 ||

[solar wharf]

hello

[split mortar]

aaaa

[untold oracle]

Merow

[faint plank]

mreow

[next sentinel]

hey guys, I have a question, do we know anything about Yharim before the crusade started?

[untold oracle]

Not really

We know he was destined to eat Yharon but that’s all

I think

[faint plank]

eat yharon???

[next sentinel]

chicken nugget

[next sentinel]

From The Underworld lore we also know that Yharim was also destined to rule hell... That's something.. maybe he lived there?

[untold oracle]

Is that underworld ruling part mentioned anywhere?

It would make sense for my Yharim is from Azafure headcanon

[next sentinel]

"The hellish reputation the underworld gets is rather a recent development.
The layers of ash choking the formerly great cities is still warm.
The more domineering of Gods wished for me to champion their causes, asking to rule their society from here..."

[untold oracle]

Oh ok

[next sentinel]

I mean there is this part later: Azafure simply burned when their wishes were not met.
Such is the unfortunate price off war, though I have no regret fighting for my people.

But.. em is Azafure all of hell?

[untold oracle]

Also consider the part I have no regret fighting for my people

[next sentinel]

yea.. but is he talking about Azafure or hell? or both, or generally about all people who fight agains gods?

[dusk laurel]

Mrrow

[untold oracle]

I think it means Azafure

Generally I think Azafure and hell mean the same because Azafure is the only notable thing in the entirety of it

-# also Azafure is Britain so that’s another reason

[faint plank]

-# quite depressing

[stoic gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/gaster-chara-undertale-wingdings-wing-gaster-gif-16760608197546317209

Oh yeah

[sage berry]

In the hands of an individual who didn’t know how to wield the weapon how much damage could something endgame still do? Like Arc of the Cosmos? Or even Exoblade?

How powerful are these things?

Draedon has said that in the wrong hands even the most potent weapon is nothing… or something to that effect… so it got me thinking.

[untold oracle]

If the person is strong enough to carry AotC and they figure out how the scissor blades work they prolly could do that rip thing

[next sentinel]

i dont think damage would change, look at the Npc, they use the same weapons we use but they don't use them as well as we do.

[split mortar]

Uh pretty sure something like exoblade would prob not have too shard of a time killing providence or ml even if they’re wielded by a inexperienced person

[hardy flower]

IS THAT PURO IN YOUR PFP

[next sentinel]

:3

[hardy flower]

💀🙏

[hoary berry]

might just do away with this rule

purely because lunar portal staff seems to be the only suitable summon weapon

[sage berry]

Understandable anyone who could wield a sword could use that, the AotC might be harder to use though…

The reason we know what we’re doing is that we made the thing.

[devout grotto]

Backreading and I probably misunderstood it but

Turning drops into craftables 🤝

[hoary berry]

yeah you misunderstood

although that's not to say i don't imagine most boss drops to be crafted by the terrarian

just not what i was saying there

[devout grotto]

Ah I see I see

[dusk laurel]

[hot valve]

How’s it going lore channel

[split mortar]

Dead

[untold oracle]

no

[faint plank]

sigmaliciously

[hoary berry]

[spring helm]

Bernie already looks thoroughly unimpressed normally

[faint plank]

unsigmalicious

[untold oracle]

mrwp

[cosmic zenith]

No, Azafure is a city-state in the Underworld, and due to its great status, it's where Yharim would rule from

[cosmic zenith]

Definitely not the only notable thing in the entirety of it

That's like saying Rome is the only notable thing in Europe

[random mulch]

maybe brussels would be a better example cause it contains the headquarters of both the EU and NATO

[dusk laurel]

Brussels isn't real

[cosmic zenith]

I bring up Rome due to its historical relevance to the development of Europe

[random mulch]

oh dear well there goes my capital

[cosmic zenith]

Even if you don't know anything else remarkable, it's not wise to assume there isn't anything else remarkable in such a big sample (the entirety of the Underworld)

[split mortar]

As far as we know hell spans the entire continent maybe further

Even if not that’s still a huge as fuck place obviously there’s more interesting things then just azafure

[green bay]

Do farts instantly ignite in hell since its so hot

[split mortar]

Uh
Don’t think so?

We don’t see floating ambient fire

[untold oracle]

Yea true

[frozen zodiac]

you throw a stinky potion and just combust

[green bay]

Or use the fart in a jar

[split mortar]

Whoopie cushion and you are dead

[hybrid barn]

Honestly, I feel like that could be a fun attention to detail effect, if fart-based jump boosts had a flaming trail and some smoke effects while in hell
Maybe they could give you an extra prepulsion boost in exchange for some damage, but for simplicity sake, just added visuals could be fun

[stark basalt]

"To not properly dispose of the essence of a slain God is a fatal mistake. This wasteland stands as proof of such.
Having slain my first Gods, I turned a blind eye as corrupt essence gushed from their rent forms and burrowed into the bowels of Terraria.
The mere existence of this putrid place proves that the Gods of old were beyond redemption."

the crimson comes from a god's essence right, whos god is it ?

also can someone explain to me this :"It is true that unspeakable abominations may now be commonplace, largely by my hand.
Though they have always been a product of the folly of the Gods, the same Gods would cull them in equal measure.
My decimation of the falsely divine left many old horrors unconstrained, with new ones birthed every year.
Now, they are your stepping stones." (brain of cthulhu lore)
i dont understand anything theres too much complicated words

[split mortar]

The crimson, corruption and hallowed aren’t made of one god

They’re dozens to hundreds of gods each

[stark basalt]

mb thats corruption

[split mortar]

I thyink the second part is referring to how creatures like brain would be killed by gods so they would be revered more but now with near no gods creatures like boc are left to freely exist

[manic coral]

you know one of the funniest moments of accidently making something make sense is the time of day changing to fit the bosses in boss rush

[stark basalt]

the pronoun "you"/your is brain of cthulhu right

"It is true that unspeakable abominations may now be commonplace, largely by my hand." what does that mean by my hands ? sorry if this question seems dumb

[spring helm]

The brain of Cthulhu is a creature born from the crimson

[split mortar]

That means yharim killed the gods that killed giant beats like boc

[stark basalt]

fr?

how

[spring helm]

So it’s kinda Yharim’s fault that they show up more often than they used to before the crusade happened

Essentially, the divine essence of the evil biomes attempt to pull themselves back into a singular being

The evil biome bosses (and eye of Cthulhu I think) are the result of that

[stark basalt]

how do we know that?

[robust osprey]

crimson is already a living being

[split mortar]

It’s fought in the crimson, it’s at the very least super infected

[robust osprey]

(atleasr in vanilla)

[split mortar]

Yeah

[spring helm]

Some semblance of a God's mind may survive death, much like the twitches of a crushed insect.
What little remains attempts to convene and coalesce in worship. A desperate attempt that its power may yet be restored.

[split mortar]

In calamity it’s a growing biome of divine corpses :D

[robust osprey]

and corruption is literal cancer

[split mortar]

Yeah in vanilla

[stark basalt]

is the terraria lore canon to calamity? or at least everything non contradictory can be considered canon?

[spring helm]

No

[split mortar]

No

[hybrid barn]

Oh yeah, since Xeroc could just...take the sun, and push it over there

[robust osprey]

in calamity they are fucked up and evil god's corpres turned into a biome

[split mortar]

Except for the hallowed you’re correct

[stark basalt]

in vanilla lore the evil biomes extended to multiple planets is it also true in calamity?

[hybrid barn]

So to speak

[robust osprey]

halloweed is silly gud god's corpres turned into a biome

[manic coral]

yeah, like. they're the literla deity of the sun. like, i only thought about it after making them that, but. of course they can change the time of day

[split mortar]

They don’t extend to other planets cause the only god who may have reached other planets is xeroc

[manic coral]

like wow that lined up weirdly well

[light linden]

hey cei can I ask a question please?

[stark basalt]

🙏🏽 @manic coral please?

[split mortar]

Yharon dials xeroc to turn the time of day to 12

[manic coral]

what be up, yo

[manic coral]

like how do you mean

[light linden]

were you the dev that said this?

[split mortar]

If draedon hasn’t then i doubt any god has

[light linden]

I thought it was rebecca who said that but I was wrong

[stark basalt]

im pretty sure the evil biomes (or at least corruption iirc) extended to multiple planets, like it infected multiple worlds like a planet virus or something

[robust osprey]

the furthest draedon got to be in any planet was sending aureus to the evil infection

(it got infected)

[manic coral]

no why would it

[split mortar]

In vanilla lore yeah

[manic coral]

yes

[light linden]

oh ok

ty

[hybrid barn]

I don't imagine so, since that would either mean corrupted pieces of the planet would've had to be rocketed into space and corrupt other planets that way, or gods would've had to be killed on those planets

[manic coral]

the whole ascension thing on the tribunal stuff and the tribunal becoming deities

[split mortar]

In calamity it’s made of god essence

And no gods would have reached other planets

[robust osprey]

that's how "eater of worlds" makes sense in vanilla as a name

[manic coral]

and Terminus is absed off the the Tools of Kagrenac

[robust osprey]

and in calamity is just a silly name given by terrarian

[manic coral]

There are a lot of parallels and simmilarities between deities in cal and the tribunal gods from Morrowind

[light linden]

tbh idk much about the tribunal

[stark basalt]

is there more vanilla lore than js the 5 pages on the wiki?

[light linden]

I just know they're tied to the dark elves

[robust osprey]

a whole document

[indigo glade]

Bestiary.

[robust osprey]

check pins

[split mortar]

Uh
Technically not since yharim knows of it

It was named by some other dumbass not us

[robust osprey]

well still a silly name given by someone

[stark basalt]

anymore than that?

[split mortar]

Yeah

[indigo glade]

NPC quotes.

[split mortar]

Npc quotes?

[robust osprey]

draeyap

[split mortar]

That’s not vanilla

[robust osprey]

oh vanilla

then uuh

idk

I thought it was calamity

[manic coral]

yeha unless somebody or some group of people in general names something beforehand

you named it

or well

whoever the terrarian is named it

[split mortar]

Take item tooltips completely literally it’s funny

In vanilla

[stark basalt]

do you have high enough authority on calamity lore/canon to say what is right or wrong? youre the main writter right so you should? just to make sure 🙏🏽

[manic coral]

yes but im picky about what i say is and isnt becuase that ruins part of the fun

[stark basalt]

okay thanks

[manic coral]

unless something already in-game contradicts something as right or wrong

im usually not gonna say if something is right or wrong

maybe sometimes as a joke but thats it

[split mortar]

Corruption and crimson are from good gods guys

[stark basalt]

so the game canon has more value that your word that what it means?

[manic coral]

because if i just said if stuff was right or wrong then part of the fun goes away

[manic coral]

yes

[split mortar]

Yes

[stark basalt]

thanks alot

[manic coral]

because that's stuff formally agreed upon but ALL three primary writers, at least

being me, reb, and stip

[mighty zenith]

yeah only things that are in-game (and not outdated) are specifically canon

[light linden]

Still hoping that we get sea grape wine from the drunk princess in sso

[split mortar]

Though we get a good guess from dev statements

[light linden]

ik that isn't a real thing

[split mortar]

For future things

[light linden]

stip?

[manic coral]

stipulatevenus

[indigo glade]

Stipulate Venus.

[manic coral]

he shows up here from time to time

[split mortar]

Stipulate Venus

The dev who role plays as vetrasyl or whatever they’re doing

[light linden]

how have I never

OH

[indigo glade]

They're usually nicknamed as Vetrasyl.

[light linden]

nvm I know who that is

[split mortar]

lol

[spring helm]

xeroc should make more suns so that it's daytime all the time

[light linden]

that is a bad idea

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-bill-nye-climate-warm-hot-gif-14252039

[dusk laurel]

Xeroc should eat everything that creates light

Or uses it

[manic coral]

that would be a bad idea but not for reasons y'all are remotely aware of

[manic coral]

primodial light does not equal light in general

[light linden]

can I take a guess?

[spring helm]

super cancer

[manic coral]

primordial light refers to the "sun" and its own light and its effects specifically

[spring helm]

oh so the sun is evil

secretly

[strange stump]

whats up yall

[mighty zenith]

trtf referenced

[split mortar]

Blood moons:

[manic coral]

it's an object

[mighty zenith]

||hollow knight lore or something||

[manic coral]

idk can a screwdriver be evil

[spring helm]

you're an object ):<

[split mortar]

Hasn’t stopped draedon from dumping uranium
(Ignore that they’re amoral)

[spring helm]

im sorry i didnt mean it

[light linden]

I need to play that game don't I?

[split mortar]

Yes

[indigo glade]

Yes.

[brave dew]

No.

[dusk laurel]

Yes

[manic coral]

byeah ive been writing stuff for permafrost recently

[brave dew]

😈

[light linden]

all the silksong craziness has kinda driven me away from it ngl

[manic coral]

was doing more cal stuff but i was like "man this would be easier if i did permafrost first"

[split mortar]

The silksong craziness is people wanting more

[spring helm]

tell us about how he got his immaculate drip

[split mortar]

^

[brave dew]

isnt silksong just gonna be hollow knight but you control that one girl thing

[indigo glade]

No.

[mighty zenith]

no its like

[split mortar]

There’s going to be more then just that

[manic coral]

yeha just like calamity is jsut terraria but there's like an extra weapon or something

[mighty zenith]

literally an entirely new game

[manic coral]

[indigo glade]

It will be a new place with an entirely different combat system.

[brave dew]

good

[split mortar]

^

[brave dew]

i want a calamity game