lore-discussion

[wheat walrus]

boiii what you say about phonk

[frozen zodiac]

how many dragonfolly would it be though would the background temporarily change because of how many there are

[wheat walrus]

Becoming stronger than calamitas: 😄

Becoming stronger than yharim: 💀

[fierce pagoda]

Packgod humble him

[wheat walrus]

those who nohit

anyways

anyways

[pliant ruin]

Could have a enemy that's like a baby folly called a murderswarmer ehehe

[wheat walrus]

yea folly event would be cool

[split mortar]

Learn c# and make folly event a possibility yourself

[dusk laurel]

Folly event

Very cool

[pliant ruin]

if the event were to have more than one boss (like acid rain or the moon events) maybe the first boss could b like
a really large/powerful prey item of folly that is actually able to fight back against it, and the actual final boss folly could have a cool first-time spawn animation wehre it attacks one of these guys and they have a animation (monster hunter turf war style)

bird dragon vs giant bug

[split mortar]

Giant stpuid bug?

[pliant ruin]

no

[split mortar]

:sad:

[pliant ruin]

stabs you

[spare pier]

Eh I think this event would be much more in line with other events

Aka one miniboss

Which would be Folly proper

[pliant ruin]

That's fair

[split mortar]

Only goblin invasion and pirate invasion have 1 miniboss iirc

The others have more I think?

[pliant ruin]

goblin invasion has 0 if were being technical

warlocks dont count, for whatever reason...

[spare pier]

Martian Invasion only has 1

[pliant ruin]

neither does dreadnautilus, which is. even worse

[frozen zodiac]

what if in the final tier there's a full out war between the bugs and the folly in the background like this part from super paper mario

[split mortar]

What does dreadnaught count as

[pliant ruin]

regular enemy

[spare pier]

Technically Blood Moon has Dreadnautilus yeah

[pliant ruin]

(dont ask me why i dont know

[spare pier]

The only events with more than one Miniboss

[fierce pagoda]

lunar event

[pliant ruin]

pumpkin, frost and old ones army

right

[fierce pagoda]

that has 4

[spare pier]

Are Punpkim and Frost Moon

[pliant ruin]

ig lunar event but id personally

count each pillar as its own event kinda

[spare pier]

I don't count them as events either

[visual bane]

imagine the lag

[spare pier]

And fuck OOA

[split mortar]

Frost moon
Pumpkin moon
Acid rain
OOA
Do the pillars count?

[deft vessel]

Can the celestials speak terrarian?

[fierce pagoda]

OOA sounds like something a monkey would say when startled

[pliant ruin]

OOA is afctually fun .... take the old ones pill

[split mortar]

No, only French

[frozen zodiac]

the mage weapon from betsy is goated

insane defense drop

[split mortar]

-# why did I think of French first as a language

[pliant ruin]

one thing i like abt cal is how it seems like most of its events are biome-specific rather than worldwide which tbh is one of the few cal-vanilla gameplay differences where

i actually like the approach cal has better

[fierce pagoda]

Flying Dragon is based as hell

[deft vessel]

The dragons were right…

[pliant ruin]

i think the biggest problem with base terraria events is honestly just how u have no control over them

atleast not if you don't wanna do them

[fierce pagoda]

how many events does calamity have

i can only think of 1

[pliant ruin]

so making them biome-specifc helps alot

yeah only 1

acid rain

there'll be another one in SSO iirc

[split mortar]

Huh
Whuh

[pliant ruin]

sunken sea undead army event thingy

[dusk laurel]

Yeah that one

[pliant ruin]

triangle mentioned it a long tiem ago

[split mortar]

Oh neat

[dusk laurel]

I've heard about it

[pliant ruin]

timeless shores event i think

its where the shoaldiers come from

[spring helm]

I was thinking Moon Lord’s corpse becomes sort of a whale fall and you fight the animals eating it

[deft vessel]

Spoopy

[fierce pagoda]

you can skip blood moons and Solar eclipses with enchanted sundials, they recharge for free when a natural one occurs

[spring helm]

And then dragonfolly comes last

[fierce pagoda]

but for pirates and goblins you're out of luck

[frozen zodiac]

NOMNOMNOM more ilmeris lore with the entries for the undead soldiers please

[pliant ruin]

i like the bug swarm idea better bc it feels more like smth that would happen multiple times and is a natural part of the ecosystem which imo is better bcuz events arent a one time thing

[fierce pagoda]

the Upcoming vanilla bestiary entries on Moonlord and the four Pillars will give us so much lore

[split mortar]

Wonder how that work when the guy commits supernova on death

[spring helm]

Oh right I forgot about that

[pliant ruin]

and it also adds a nice bit of worldbuilding to follie's ecology (they hibernate until their prey's migration starts,,,

[deft vessel]

Or
✨cosmolight✨

[fierce pagoda]

i was thinking of vanilla when i said that

[deft vessel]

Oh

[pliant ruin]

it also ties in nicely how follies ahven't just

decimated the enviroment

[fierce pagoda]

thats my main mango, how come the jungle isnt completely cooked when you have several post-ml threats looming around

even if all of them arent moonlord tier they cant be that far behind

[pliant ruin]

bcuz mature follies hibernate until hunting season starts, with the only follies awake prior to them being the ones u get as a regular enemies (draconic swarmer i think its waht its called) which arent fully grown yet

it just

fixes most of the problems dragonfolly lore has rn i think?

which rly just boils down to their ecology being a mess

ive heard the idea of them being overpopulated thrown around tho so theres also that

[spring helm]

The jungle is built different

[fierce pagoda]

the jungle has to be the most content filled biome of all time

at least in vanilla

[pliant ruin]

oh yeah in vanilla absolutely

3 bosses

bru

[fierce pagoda]

Jungle really is built different

[spring helm]

Draedon did call it the central hub or something

[pliant ruin]

id say it prob still is in cal

but thats more so bcuz the mod is still adding content to other biomes (both vanilla biomes and its own)

[split mortar]

Oh yeah golem is a jungle boss cause temple is counted as jungle

[fierce pagoda]

Jungle mimic almost made it in, until the devs were like "yeah nah the jungle has enough already"

and it still made it in via a secret seed

[deft vessel]

Cal adds three bosses to the jungle when other vanilla biomes get one

[spring helm]

Lmao

Who’s the third

[fierce pagoda]

can you believe that the Jungle was planned to have an alternate version? similar to how the crimson and corruption are alternate version of eachother?

[spring helm]

PBG, Dragonfolly, and?

[deft vessel]

Yahron

[pliant ruin]

nu

[split mortar]

Queen bee
Plantera
Golem
Pbg
Dragon folly

[pliant ruin]

talking abt vanilla

[split mortar]

That’s not jungle boss

[pliant ruin]

queen bee, plantera, golem

hallow has the 2nd most bosses

[fierce pagoda]

not anymore im afraid

[spring helm]

Yharon’s not jungle exclusive anymore so I don’t count him

[pliant ruin]

queen slime, empress

[deft vessel]

Huh. Didnt know they changed it

[split mortar]

Can fight yharon anywhere now

[pliant ruin]

calamity has 2 jungle guys

right

pbg and folly

[visual bane]

yes

no

[split mortar]

?

[visual bane]

actually what did you mean

[pliant ruin]

calamity has 2 jungle bosses

vanilla has 3

[visual bane]

o yeah

[pliant ruin]

queen bee, plantera, golem, pbg, dragonfolly

[fierce pagoda]

calamity also gives the jungle perennial, uelibloom also grows in the jungle, an entire set of plague themed enemies and a dreadon minibiome

[pliant ruin]

well

two of those are dying

[visual bane]

jungle juice

[pliant ruin]

perennial, uelibloom

[fierce pagoda]

uelibloom is just getting changed isnt it?

[pliant ruin]

uelibloom is turning into profaned ore, perennial is gonna have its own biome iirc

separate from jungle

[fierce pagoda]

and perennial is becoming a minibiome

[fierce pagoda]

ah i see

[dusk laurel]

profaned ore definitely won't be in the jungle

[fierce pagoda]

but perennial is staying a post plantera thing right?

[dusk laurel]

yeah

[pliant ruin]

idk if itll be changed progression wise

but ik most of its weapons r dying

[fierce pagoda]

well actually will perennial biome be IN the jungle?

[faint plank]

perennial is replacing life alloys right

[fierce pagoda]

or a separate place?

[dusk laurel]

Nough

[pliant ruin]

nu

it wont be in jungle

also no perennial is still gonna b perennial

[dusk laurel]

Life alloy is here to stay

[pliant ruin]

idk if theyre doing anything with alloy

[fierce pagoda]

alright, then i dont think its fair to call perennial stuff jungle stuff

[split mortar]

Just going to be bark

[dusk laurel]

Living shards will die iirc

[split mortar]

:(

[visual bane]

real?

[fierce pagoda]

if the only ties perennial has to the jungle is being post plantera, then ecto plasm would also sort of be a jungle thing

but we know that isnt the case

[dusk laurel]

I think Tringle made a comment once about it

Since living jewels will be a thing

[visual bane]

tringle

[dusk laurel]

tringle

[deft vessel]

Pringle?

[split mortar]

Damn calamity is soo seres by mopnooly man prignels can

[dusk laurel]

What

[split mortar]

Calmnatty sponsed by pingler

[dusk laurel]

[faint plank]

calamari flavour

[visual bane]

triangle shaped pringles

[faint plank]

Doritos

[visual bane]

ah

[dusk laurel]

I found the cool ranch flavor dorito

[visual bane]

the six tringle souls

[spring helm]

You need seven to break the barrier

[faint plank]

the barrier will unleash sso

[dusk laurel]

We have 2 Tringle souls rn

5 more till SSO

[tribal locust]

Uhh
What year does Calamity take place

[untold oracle]

Late 1800’s

[tribal locust]

In the draedon logs, he implied some dates like 1895 and that it tool him six centuries to perfect the exo mechs

[untold oracle]

But it doesn’t really correspond to our 1800’s

[tribal locust]

Tbf
If the world of terraria is light years away from our earth

Maybe in their perspective, the earth hasnt been made yet?

[untold oracle]

It didn’t take him six centuries to finish the mechs, they are a culmination of 600 years of research altogether, his magnum opus

-# funny thing I also interpreted it as it took 600 years lol

[split mortar]

The universes cosmology is completely different

Stars are different to the sun

They’re balls of pure mana while sun is primordial light iirc

[spring helm]

Turns out what they call mana has been localized nuclear fusion the whole time

[hybrid barn]

I know I've said this before, but speaking of the exo mechs and their development, I think it'd be kind of cool to see if Draedon had any scrapped designs for them in the past, since their iteration numbers go all the way up to 09

[split mortar]

Cnidrion using nuclear fusion to throw water at you

[untold oracle]

Terraria but all attacks happen in just 10 more years!

[light linden]

random thing

I hope we get some lore for shroomite and spectre

[split mortar]

Spectre is chlorophyte mixed with souls from plantera

[hoary berry]

Spooky plant matter

[pliant ruin]

I don't think the souls are explicitly from plantera

I think more so plantera's death sorta stirs up alot of the souls in the dungeon

wouldn't really make much sense for them to be from plantera directly unless the jungle ppl went to the dungeon and collected souls from there which seems

unlikely.

[visual kiln]

p

[hoary berry]

[split mortar]

Rebecca said the post plant ones were

Or was it someone else

Either way a writer confirmed they’re from plantera and that they all went to the dungeon for a reason

[spring helm]

Plantera is a dumb name

They should call it Planty McPlantyface

[pliant ruin]

Idk if i like that

[hoary berry]

Plantera when I +

[pliant ruin]

Not only does it seem a bit disproportionate given the sheer amount of post-plant enemies that exist but it also means jungle people went to the dungeon to get the souls somehow, i assume

and like, isn't the dungeon's entire deal that it's a place that's incredibly hard to leave once you go in there

I suppose we may be simply lacking information but as it stands it seems odd

[spare pier]

The Souls going to the Dungeon doesn't mean that they were from there originally

[split mortar]

Why does it mean they went to the dungeon?

[spare pier]

There aren't many other Post Plant enemies besides

At least none that have no discerning faction or explanation besides "Soul bullshit"

[pliant ruin]

True they could've not been originally from the dungeon

That makes more sense

Although it does seemingly make it so the souls of the post-plant dungeon enemies dosen't actually belong to the bodies they're inhabiting

Which might compromise some interesting storytelling potential

But it's better than uh

John Jungle goes to the dungeon to do some soul-stealing

[spare pier]

Not really, the bodies are still the main thing

[warm gull]

wake

[pliant ruin]

A way i can see it making sense would be if some sort of soul energy from plantera seeped into the dungeon enemies and awoke their souls proper rather than being directly souls from plantera

that way it's still the souls in the bodies themselves but they did in fact awake due to external influence from plant

or

well

plant's death

idk tho

[split mortar]

Maybe ceaseless void does shit to souls world wide

[warm gull]

doesn't yharim describe polterghast as though it had existed for a while and the dragon cult kept telling him to deal with it but he ignored them

[pliant ruin]

i assume polter is unrelated to plant

atleast directly

[split mortar]

It is I’m pretty sure

-# I’m saying it’s unrelated if I did bad wording

[spare pier]

I mean, ngl I think it's more interesting if the Souls that possessed the bodies ARE different because it kinda touches into a very specific and interesting kind of horror

[warm gull]

so is the lore explanation for why polterghast doesn't kill us in pre hardmode that it was sealed or smth or do we just happen to never encounter it

[pliant ruin]

That is true

I was more so thinking, "Hey, if these aren't the Angry Dungeon Souls, why would they be so Angry"

but like

i think i'd be pretty unwell if i died then woke up in a entirely different body ive never seen in my life

[spare pier]

Hey Plantera seemed pretty angry

[split mortar]

Plantera immediately wanted us dead so I think that’s a tad mad

[spare pier]

"The spirits within the Dungeon only vaguely recall their lives, and yet there is one thing each and all clearly remember, that drives them to chaos: the man responsible for locking them in these cursed walls, and his overwhelming power– power that they have been reminded of, due to one ever growing in strength roaming their halls."

[warm gull]

plantera contains the souls of bee lovers who saw you kill qb

[pliant ruin]

I mean

Plantera dosen't attack you until you destroy a bulb

Honestly, this makes me think

What if plantera isn't angry

[warm gull]

oh right polter thinks we're yharim but also does that mean that polter is just entirely a non-threat to normal people and would not attack anyone else?

[pliant ruin]

And after you kill it and the souls are forcibly removed from the plant and put into the dungeon undead, because that's the place with the strongest soul concentration

And now they're fucking pissed

[spare pier]

Not really, it just means that Polter was kinda dormant

[warm gull]

ic

[pliant ruin]

Plantera's entire purpose is to be a agricultural revelation, yeah?

What if the souls in there like, fully embrace that

Plantera bulbs are their attempt at making more Planteras

[spare pier]

Boy I need to rewrite Plantera's Lore Item

[split mortar]

Whar

[spare pier]

While "botanical revolution" does describe it accurately, it's still not very good

[pliant ruin]

Even after the seeming disappearance/death of their forebearers (If that's the right word), they still cling onto their "purpose", and in a twisted strange way, they're satisfied with it

And then you kill it and they're forced into the dungeon guys and they're like

https://tenor.com/view/marisad-touhou-marisa-kirisame-sad-gif-20456205

[warm gull]

plantera is the plant proletariat and humans are the plant bourgeoisie

[pliant ruin]

It'd be more interesting to make Plantera a bit different from Polter in that sense, since otherwise they're both Angry spirit amalgamations

[spare pier]

A few Lore Items were written in a scuffed way because the Lore wasn't properly decided and Yharim had to convey information he didn't actually know

[pliant ruin]

Plantera was actually like

[spare pier]

So shit like Plantera feels awkward

[pliant ruin]

Happy with it's purpose in life (Death???)

[spare pier]

Namely, Plantera, Ravager and Weaver

All things Yharim should not know about but he confidently tries to explain what the fuck they are and when you discover what they actually are he just sounds fucking stupid

[pliant ruin]

Plantera dosen't strike me as particularly violent anyways, since it only attacks after provoked, much like QB or aquascoog

[spare pier]

As I said before, I'd like to rewrite those three to be more like

"I don't know for sure about this, but I think I do enough to make an assumption. Therefore..."

[pliant ruin]

I think the yharim whispers are at their best when they are less infodumping and more so yharim characterization

which erm yeah the ones you mentioned last time i checked are just infodumping so i dont blame you for wanting to change them

[warm gull]

they should be renamed from "lore items"

[split mortar]

They’re meant to be both iirc

[pliant ruin]

they're going to be iirc

to whispers

or smth like that

[spare pier]

Like, Yharim still thinks Weaver is a small DoG despite the studies Draedon conducted because y'know

There was another guy with decent knowledge telling him what Weaver is

[warm gull]

I don't think that yharim is stupid

[pliant ruin]

I think it'd be fun if the weaver lore entry not only was a bit of a theory yharim had on what weaver was, but also a bit of a early exposure to yharim's thoughts on dog (bro does NOT like him)

[spare pier]

Yeah, it does go there but not really

[spare pier]

It's DoG if you're wondering

[spring helm]

Lmao

[dusk laurel]

Crazy

What a fraud

[spring helm]

Imagine a child pointing to an old man and saying “yeah that’s a younger individual of my species”

[spare pier]

Oh yeah that's easily the funniest part

[hoary berry]

lmao

[light linden]

hey reb can I ask a lore question?

[spare pier]

Sure

[light linden]

did illmeris have their own language?

[spare pier]

Yeah

[light linden]

ok ty

[pliant ruin]

fishspeak

[summer rover]

Just wanted some clarification, are the Crimson and Corruption made up of one god or multiple gods?

[dusk laurel]

Multiple dead ones

[split mortar]

Multiple, just like hallowed

[light linden]

I do wonder why noxus is gathering that god essence tbh

My best guess is that he somehow is using it to become more powerful or he's tryna recreate the evil biomes

[pliant ruin]

slurping the nutritious divine soup

[dusk laurel]

Noxus is a drug lord, he knows everyone wants to ascend

[untold oracle]

He heard of the world soul and now wants it, how he does that is by collecting all the god essence to make the ultimate god orb to consume (he does not know)

[light linden]

although

do we know if the distortion is stable?

[untold oracle]

I think it’s directly linked to noxus

So the place collapes if he dies

[mighty zenith]

noxus and crabulon fighting for turf to sell their product

[light linden]

hm

[pliant ruin]

I don't think it's directly linked to noxus

because we know there's things in there that are on the same level as noxus

(Signus)

So i don't think noxus like

rules over all of the distortion

I think it's just a really powerful distortion guy

wouldn't make much sense for Signus to be entirely separate and seemingly at the same "ranking" as noxus otehrwise

[split mortar]

Not in terms of power

[pliant ruin]

ye ik

[light linden]

hold up

[pliant ruin]

but the mere fact that there are other beings on the distortion that are entirely unaffiliated and have seemingly the same level of "importance" as noxus makes it p clear that noxus isnt like

the leader of everything

its just strong as fuck

[light linden]

is signus not part of the hive mind?

[pliant ruin]

no

it was confirmed the other day signus is entirely separate

basically on the same "grade" as noxus (in other words, not a servant, unlike DoG. )

well that is unless noxus and signus also work for some even bigger stronger thing but erm

i personally don't think that'll happen

given uh

noxus is the only distortion superboss we're getting, as far as i'm concerned

[spare pier]

I originally wanted to have Signus not be affiliated with Noxus but not that strong, mostly because I saw no reason to do that, but then a few mechanics were floated around and I was like, fine

[pliant ruin]

I mean he's not as physically strong as far as i'm aware

[untold oracle]

Huh

[pliant ruin]

It's sort of like

[split mortar]

Just seems like a unnecessary plot twist just to shove A stronger being if it was to be done
So I don’t want it to be

[pliant ruin]

being the president of the us vs being the president of new zealand

like the president of the us

undoubtedly has more power

but they're both presidents

[spare pier]

And yeah I can assure you that, no

There is no bigger fish

[pliant ruin]

thank god 😭

[dusk laurel]

Awesome

Bigger fish not good

[pliant ruin]

"hey here's this superboss. anyways its actually just a servant and you wont fight its leader Ever"

😭

[untold oracle]

Signus is another independent being
I think that’s a better way of saying it

[light linden]

also

[split mortar]

Old lore type shit

[light linden]

have we ever gotten a map of the planet?

[split mortar]

No

[light linden]

who specifically in old lore?

[spring helm]

We are the bigger fish

[mighty zenith]

i dont think it happened with anyone

[split mortar]

It just had a lot of “this being could be stronger” type stuff

[mighty zenith]

its just a trope old lore would do

[light linden]

ah

[dusk laurel]

No

[deft vessel]

Nah its obvious. Noxus clearly works for Xeroc

[pliant ruin]

well i was trying to make an analogy

[mighty zenith]

it LOVED "oh im actually in a weakened state"

[light linden]

been wondering btw

[mighty zenith]

like every other boss was like that

[pliant ruin]

you could also say like

[untold oracle]

It hasn’t really happened but it sounds plausible in old lore logic

[pliant ruin]

a trex and a african lion are both apex predators

obviously the african lion is not as strong as the trex

[light linden]

is the old sunken sea theme leaving?

[pliant ruin]

but they're on the same ranking in their respective hierarchies

[dusk laurel]

No

Current theme is here to stay

[light linden]

pog

[untold oracle]

No

[pliant ruin]

it's believable worldbuilding imo

[untold oracle]

I would explode if it did

[spare pier]

Or "I could be a lot stronger but fuck you"

[dusk laurel]

Why would they remove the old theme

[pliant ruin]

i imagine we're getting new themes

for new biomes and such

[spare pier]

See, the thing is I think basically every Boss right now could have a Future Boss sort of deal

[pliant ruin]

and the event

[spare pier]

But they're a lot more "what if shit was REALLY FUCKED"

[dusk laurel]

Volcanic layer and timeless shores better get their own themes

[light linden]

I hope those come back

[spare pier]

They aren't

[deft vessel]

Can the celestials speak what ever language is spoken in Terraria?

[pliant ruin]

weren't they like

literally just stupidly stat bloated versions of bosses

why .

[mighty zenith]

god no

[light linden]

I especially wanna see a future draedon and future scal

I meant different than what they used to be

obviously I didn't like the stat bloat

[dusk laurel]

The current theme just doesn't fit those areas

[mighty zenith]

they should stay as a "what if" speculation and nothing more

future bosses were a mistake

[pliant ruin]

future scal (its the same but now she has therapy)

[spare pier]

Like

[light linden]

but the concept of fighting bosses when they're a lot stronger is something I really want

[spare pier]

A Future Boss version of Slime God would be just

[mighty zenith]

the vortex becomes a smily face

[spare pier]

"What if Slime God fucking slurped all of the Evil Biomes?"

[pliant ruin]

future boss queen bee

[spare pier]

You know that's never happening in the main canon

[hybrid barn]

Honestly, it could be cool to see designs for those even if they won't be seen in game, like the pre-ascension ones for Xeroc and Providence

[pliant ruin]

🔥

[spare pier]

But what if it did?

[pliant ruin]

Future bosses are cool as a narrative concept but gameplay-wise

they add more boss bloat to a mod already known for boss bloat

[mighty zenith]

its just the same boss but slightly stronger

[spare pier]

Me and Cei thought about what'd be that actually

[mighty zenith]

even hollow knight's dream versions are pretty lacking honestly

[spare pier]

One day we just decided to think "what'd be the Future Boss of every Boss?"

[mighty zenith]

great idea
very mediocre execution

[spare pier]

And I think it's funny how Moon Lord is just the opposite

Past Boss

[split mortar]

Wha

[spare pier]

🔥

[pliant ruin]

past boss

[split mortar]

Oh

lol

Yeah

[dusk laurel]

Tgat's epicsauce

[spare pier]

Moon Lord would just be "what if this bitch was at full power?"

[light linden]

future boss version of nameless deity just thanos snaps you

[pliant ruin]

I think future bosses are cool narratively but just completely unecessary gameplay-wise and add onto a already existing problem

as i said

boss bloat

[hybrid barn]

Oh yeah, do you think he would've looked much different, or basically just as he does now but without the injuries?

[mighty zenith]

nameless wouldnt change realistically

its already
god

how would god itself even improve

[spare pier]

Not much different just extra stuff

[light linden]

I was tryna be funny

[split mortar]

More eyes

[mighty zenith]

unfortunately i hate fun

[hybrid barn]

Eyes on his legs

[split mortar]

I like popcorns idea of moonlords legs (think it’s from them)

[dusk laurel]

Truest Eye of Cthulhu

[wheat walrus]

boring make her go power hungry and stronger

[light linden]

btw

[wheat walrus]

nah but jokes aside therapy'd scal wouldn't be much of a "future boss" in the sense of being a boss but much stronger and at max potential since she probably wouldn't even be fighting and stuff in the first place

[light linden]

is it true that in the old lore the eoc was an eye that broke off of the wall of flesh?

[wheat walrus]

never heard of that lol

[deft vessel]

What was the future cultist lore anyways

[mighty zenith]

something something absorbing moon lord's power by finishing the ritual

[dusk laurel]

Green cultist

[deft vessel]

It’d be funny to see a free for all with all three of the ”major” mages. (They would be buffed to the same level)

[split mortar]

All three?

Scal
Perma
?

Lunatic?

[deft vessel]

Ye

[warm gull]

scalamitas is evil and traitor to the truenhero of calamity yharim

[wheat walrus]

true

[hybrid barn]

So I know metastasis' tooltip was just metaphorical, but I think it would be kind of cool if between the damage sustained throughout his battles and the power he would've absorbed by that point, a future DoG would take an appearance similar to Calamitas' sepulchers

Like, not literally become one, but just take an appearance similar to one

I don't know, maybe it sounds cooler in my head

[dusk laurel]

The Holy Sepulcher

Turn DoG into a cathedral

[split mortar]

I like orios’ dog design

[wheat walrus]

the pulche

[hybrid barn]

Oh yeahh, that one's sick!

[split mortar]

Dog but it can throw literal hands

[wheat walrus]

reminds me of an extremely old as hell old lore xeroc concept art

[hybrid barn]

Oh god...Xeroc as a worm boss

[wheat walrus]

no

[split mortar]

Damn

[wheat walrus]

idek if this is official but it's old as hell for sure

and goofy too

[split mortar]

Moonlord x spamton neo

Those wings remind me of spamton neo

[mighty zenith]

it kind of goes hard

buuuut it also makes me remember how much old cal designs were "how much shit can we put in one sprite?"

(cough cough mega mammoth dragon

[wheat walrus]

I don't see how it goes hard

it looks

very goofy

[mighty zenith]

just kind of

[split mortar]

That’s an old lore thung?

[mighty zenith]

i dont mean lore

just cal in general

[split mortar]

What’s with the mega mammoth dragon? Haven’t seen much for it

[wheat walrus]

old cal

[hybrid barn]

I think it used to be a sibling of Yharon's that survived the dragon purge, but yeah, it was scrapped

[mighty zenith]

i can barely tell what is what

[wheat walrus]

what

[dusk laurel]

Was MMD meant to be astral related?

[wheat walrus]

that thing looks like cancer growth

[mighty zenith]

i dont think so

[split mortar]

Such a mammoth dragon

[dusk laurel]

Where are its eyes

[wheat walrus]

more like where is its anything

[dusk laurel]

it looks like it has crab claws

[mighty zenith]

it looks like if you had a coral reef just get up from the ground

[wheat walrus]

this looks like one of those very old ai images where you can make out there being something but it's actually not something and it just looks incomprehensible

[mighty zenith]

its like an ugly version of those giant land whales in subnautica

[wheat walrus]

I cannot make out any specific feature

aside from arms, but barely so

[mighty zenith]

i see hands and a beak

and thats it

[wheat walrus]

I can see some eye thing in there but I barely comprehend it

sorry to whoever made this but what is this

[mighty zenith]

its face looks like a duck 😭

[untold oracle]

That aint a reefback

[proven rivet]

"Hi people of #lore-discussion, I'm perry the mammoth dragon platypus, I have huge ass brains growing on my back because I need them that size to process wtf I even am"

[indigo glade]

(This isn't AI, but point stands.)

[split mortar]

Fym this ain’t ai it looks near incomprehensible

[indigo glade]

It was constructed to be like that. It is an image to show what happens to your visual perception and identification skills while having a stroke.

[split mortar]

Ohhh

So if I get better at understanding images like that I’ll be able to see while having a stroke ?

[fierce pagoda]

I don't think so

[indigo glade]

No.

[wheat walrus]

no you can't understand these images, that's the point silly

[pliant ruin]

meow

[wheat walrus]

they have many details reminiscent of things but you can't properly make out what they are, let alone what the image is as a whole

[indigo glade]

nya

[wheat walrus]

more you look into it, less it makes sense

[hoary berry]

[dusk laurel]

[fierce pagoda]

gurrr

wow its a pokemon

[wheat walrus]

Magnamalo...

[fierce pagoda]

Magnamoly cannon!

calamity refrence

[dusk laurel]

Magna Cannon

[wheat walrus]

blows you up

[devout grotto]

Here's what they look like to me

[fierce pagoda]

🐊 -->💥

[wheat walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/zinogre-magnamalo-monster-hunter-scorned-scorned-magnamalo-gif-15343441670028194511

instantly kills you with anime powers

[dusk laurel]

All I can see is an apple

[wheat walrus]

my honest reaction

[fierce pagoda]

alright you might have blown me up

[dusk laurel]

Leaked concept art for the Devourer of Gods

[fierce pagoda]

but im gonna regenerate

[dusk laurel]

What.

[fierce pagoda]

in this egg

[dusk laurel]

Why are you an egg now

[indigo glade]

Yharon.

[dusk laurel]

Oh

[fierce pagoda]

Omni killed me with anime powers so i have to regenerate in this egg

[dusk laurel]

Gator is an auric dragon?????

[split mortar]

No colgator for another month :(

[fierce pagoda]

sadly...

life just keeps getting in the way, y'know?

[dusk laurel]

Creature.

What was its name again

[pliant ruin]

american paddlefish

[dusk laurel]

I can see the resemblance

[pliant ruin]

aughhh

[fierce pagoda]

its like a reverse beaver

instead of a flat tail, it has a flat nose

[pliant ruin]

unfortunately its chinese relative went officially extinct a few years ago :( less than 5 iirc

[dusk laurel]

:(

[fierce pagoda]

Wow less that 5 years? guess nobody cared enough to preserve it

[pliant ruin]

rest in peace sweet king

[fierce pagoda]

or maybe they just didnt know

[pliant ruin]

pollutions a bitch

there were attempts at restabilizing the population but they didn't work out

was one of the biggest freshwater fish too

[fierce pagoda]

Wow humans really did it again huh

[pliant ruin]

stuff like fish and inverts tend to have the hardest time recovering from being endagered bcuz people never give them as much attention as like, large mammals

pandas aren't even endagered anymore and people still think they're like THE symbol of endagered animals 😭

[dusk laurel]

[fierce pagoda]

People have a mammal bias i swear

[wheat walrus]

cause they fluffy

[fierce pagoda]

bet most people dont even know that whales are mammals...

[pliant ruin]

yeah the average person generally cares more about whatevers appealing to them

its unfortunate

[wheat walrus]

the honest reaction

[indigo glade]

They don't look conventionally cute, so the masses won't care for them.

[fierce pagoda]

i have this theory that people get generally more okay with killing the smaller the life forms get

like no one hesitate killing a small moth or fly

but the larger they get, the more hesitant people get

[split mortar]

Partially correct? I think?

[fierce pagoda]

like a large moth for example, people would be more morally compelled to not kill it, because its large

but a small moth, game over

[indigo glade]

I'm hesitant to kill a bear. Probably because it is a bear, which can maul me in seconds.

[fierce pagoda]

im not thinkng THAT large

[split mortar]

Probably cause there’s less room to apply personification to them so there’s less of a being to most people mentally I think

[pliant ruin]

i think its more so that - yeah

[fierce pagoda]

like that thing, the one giant snail, you'd be seen as a weirdo if you went out of your way to stomp kill that

[pliant ruin]

the larger a animal gets the more details of it we can see

which makes our brain register them as living beings more

[fierce pagoda]

but not if it was a regular brown slug

[split mortar]

Did I say exactly what you were about to say

[pliant ruin]

i mean i dont think most people go out of their way to kill slugs in general

slugs and snails seem to be one of the most commonly accepted inverts

people see them as cute sometimes

[split mortar]

Closest to thing to irl slimes most people come across

[pliant ruin]

probs because they're soft and squishy compared to insect's jointed anatomy, and the former is usually more appealing

[fierce pagoda]

I had a friend who hated brown slugs

cuz they would always mess with his garden

so he used to slay them on sight

[pliant ruin]

talking abt bugs these guys r called tree lobsters

they're endemic to a single island

highly endangered, unfortunately, but there's conservation efforts

[warm gull]

space. the final frontier.

[split mortar]

Can we make them a invasive species to make them everywhere :D

[indigo glade]

Why are they called Tree Lobsters?

[hybrid barn]

Hey Triangle, I think I have an idea

[split mortar]

-# this is a joke, don’t actively spread invasive species

[fierce pagoda]

what is the heaviest bug ever, is it something like the hercules beetle

[pliant ruin]

its a beetle yah p sure

[pliant ruin]

they live in trees and theyre big and bulky kinda like a lobster

[fierce pagoda]

beetles gotta be one of my favorite bugs

just shelled round bugs in general

[pliant ruin]

not like tree lobsters would be successfull as invasive species anyways

[fierce pagoda]

ladybugs, stinkbugs

[split mortar]

Is stupid bug a beetle

[pliant ruin]

being endemic to a single island would make them have a much harder time adapting elsewhere

[fierce pagoda]

they would get hunted down by birds in seconds probably

or other bug eating bugs

[pliant ruin]

i don't think there's any bird eating bugs in their island yeah, so if they got out of there um

💔

actually there are a few

my bad

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Providence_petrel

holy shit

reference

[dusk laurel]

PROVIDENCE?!?!?!?!?!

[fierce pagoda]

Calamity reference !!?!

[thick slate]

i love drinking petrol

[pliant ruin]

There's actually a captive breeding population of tree lobsters

[fierce pagoda]

thats bad for you i think

[pliant ruin]

which they plan to release on the island again soon

so yay!!!

[dusk laurel]

Yayy!!

[fierce pagoda]

bugwins

do you guys hesitate to kill even flies

[pliant ruin]

i kill most "pest" bugs

[split mortar]

Uh, I just get annoyed and try to slap them in the air but never hit them

[pliant ruin]

stuff like roaches, flies, mosquitoes

but i dont actually kill spiders and centipedes

[fierce pagoda]

I find it hard to kill any type of bug

[split mortar]

Never seen a mosquito in my life

[fierce pagoda]

i just dont want to kill i guess

[pliant ruin]

spiders and centipedes eat the other guys so they're a win in my book

[fierce pagoda]

even flies and mosquitoes get to live for me

[pliant ruin]

unfortunately i have a roach infestation T-T

[fierce pagoda]

roach haha i love that word

[split mortar]

Just like, grab a rock and beat them to death

[pliant ruin]

why would i grab a rock to kill a roach

😭

[fierce pagoda]

a rock!?

calamity reference

[split mortar]

Weapon to crush them

[pliant ruin]

why would i need a rock to crush a roach out of all things

theyre tiny i can just

👡

[split mortar]

Fine
Brick
It’s flat

[fierce pagoda]

just get a pet toad

and they will clean house

[pliant ruin]

WHY WOULD I NEED A BRICK

😭

[split mortar]

Flattens the roaches

[dusk laurel]

Overkill

[pliant ruin]

👡 ???????????????????

[fierce pagoda]

do roaches really have yellow blood

[pliant ruin]

Bugs actually have white blood usually

p sure

since their blood iirc is alot more... watery than vertebrate blood, due to the way their anatomy works

it's got less stuff on it and more water

so its alot more clear

[fierce pagoda]

do roaches have muscles or are they actually made out of liquid on the inside

[split mortar]

You heard of pink eye

Now get ready for pink blood

[pliant ruin]

insects have muscles ye

they dont work like human muscle tho

bug muscle works through basically a "pump" system

i forgot the specifics of it

[fierce pagoda]

also accoriding to baki cockroaches can accelerate to their top speed almost instantly from standing still

is that a lie

[pliant ruin]

idk if thats true or not

sounds like it tho

[split mortar]

-# isn’t that where the fact of spider legs are like how “””bones””” work, am I even allowed to mention this?

[pliant ruin]

roaches can get speedy really fast

[split mortar]

Should I just delete that

[pliant ruin]

idk what that even means

[fierce pagoda]

oh like hudralicks

[dusk laurel]

What does that mean melon

[fierce pagoda]

their legs are like hydraulics

[pliant ruin]

yah

[fierce pagoda]

how do you spell that

[pliant ruin]

hydraulics

[indigo glade]

Hydraulics?

[pliant ruin]

whenever they want to move a limb they pump liquid into it

wonder how that feels tbh

[indigo glade]

Hydra licks.

[fierce pagoda]

Upcoming english teacher here guys

[pliant ruin]

for a bug probably feels like. normal.

just like how the way we move our muscles probably would sound weird to some other organism but to us it just feels normal

[fierce pagoda]

Yeah melon its almost exactly like what you thought it was

[pliant ruin]

kinda crazy whenever we move our body we're basically pulling on the strings of the muscles

or releasing said strings

[split mortar]

I’m more worried about being smited by mods

[fierce pagoda]

So like, that principle, cockroaches using liquid to pump thier muslces, and reaching their top speed instantly, Baki copied the cockroach and learned the "Cockroach dash" where he accelerates so fast he travels 400 km/h, faster than a maglev train, and uses it to break someones fingers with his eyes

[pliant ruin]

i dont think you can do that

like

just a hunch

[fierce pagoda]

then he bows down to the cockroach later to thank his teacher

https://tenor.com/view/baki-hanma-anime-anime-fight-chiharu-shiba-baki-fast-gif-13990720593817126811

here it is

[pliant ruin]

baki sure is a show

that exists

it sure is

[fierce pagoda]

no its real ive done it

This is why i have respect for Cockroaches

cuz of the roach dash

[pliant ruin]

they should invent a new baki strategy where someone extends their tongue inspired by the way anteaters have prehensible tongues to eat ants to uhhhh lick the opponents eye making them uncomfortable so that theyre cuaght offguard by you PUNCHING them using your very muscular tongue

[fierce pagoda]

do you know of the 100 kilo praying mantis from Baki

[pliant ruin]

yknow why does taht sound like

smth that baki would do actually

this show is insane

[fierce pagoda]

where Baki imagines a 100kg mantis so hard it becomes "real", then he fights it and gets his ass beat by his own imagination

[pliant ruin]

crazy

[wheat walrus]

Baki is funny

but yea dude can imagine shit and having his imagination beat him up

iirc he imagined his dad since he was gonna fight him and his imagined dad punched him through walls

and his dad is even crazier

[fierce pagoda]

He and his dad in their final fight, imagined cooking food together and having a meal

[wheat walrus]

lmao

yea

[fierce pagoda]

and they imagined so hard that even people around them could see their imagination

[pliant ruin]

what is baki even about 😭

[fierce pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/yujiro-hanma-baki-cooking-esquizofrenia-gif-10183314646088788512

[wheat walrus]

they suddenly sat down and started eating imaginary food

[fierce pagoda]

its this scene

[dusk laurel]

Baki sounds batshit insane

[pliant ruin]

it's somehow more insane than jojo

[wheat walrus]

after fighting they shit

[fierce pagoda]

the way his father gets mad when he flips the table

[wheat walrus]

and everyone could see the imaginary food somehow

[fierce pagoda]

as if it was real is so funny

[wheat walrus]

yea, by quite a bit

jojo manages to have a level of seriousness at times, now I am not nearly as invested in baki but nearly all I've seen always ends with goofy stuff

[fierce pagoda]

Baki does get serious at times, especially when people die

[wheat walrus]

yea

[fierce pagoda]

there was one time when Yujiro killed bakis mom, and Baki carried her corspe around the town talking to her as if she were alive, and when the cops came to stop him he cried "let me live in this dream a bit longer",

he wanted to believe his mother was still alive while carrying her, knowing she was dead

[dusk laurel]

[fierce pagoda]

and thats maybe the saddest scene in the whole show, the aniime cchanged it to not include him carrying her corpse, cuz that was too dark for them i guess

[split mortar]

…

[fierce pagoda]

but anyways enough of baki lore

[dusk laurel]

Bug lore

Calamity mod

[split mortar]

Let’s make this channel orios-dog-appreciation-chat

[fierce pagoda]

Does anyone else feel like Signus is extremely underwhelming compared to his apparent significance?

[split mortar]

Currently yeah

[wheat walrus]

I mean currently yes

[pliant ruin]

well thats probs because his lore is unfinished ingame yeah

and his boss fight uh sucks

[wheat walrus]

he's probably gonna change a lot though

[fierce pagoda]

tell me about it

[split mortar]

Though that’s thanks to it having the bossfight of when it was a glorified miniboss

[fierce pagoda]

hes like appareantly this mysterious figure who does deals, and is so anomalous nobody knows anything and ooho soo mysterious oohh, then we fight him and kill him and thats it

onto the next boss

a stepping stone to DoG

[split mortar]

They’re going to be the final challange of the statis quests

So they will be pretty cool eventually

[fierce pagoda]

okay well good to know that its getting changed

the potential shall not get wasted

[dusk laurel]

When will his title ingame get changed

[fierce pagoda]

but still, its gonna be weird that we just fight and kill him, and there are NO aftermaths or consequences

unless that is gonna get changed too

[indigo glade]

With it's rework.

[dusk laurel]

Envoy of the Devourer feels like an insult now

[split mortar]

Terrarian bad with names again

[pliant ruin]

"envoy of the devourer"

I AM LITERALLY ABOVE HIM

[dusk laurel]

^^^

[fierce pagoda]

look at his little cresent moon looking badge,

you think that has any significance?

[pliant ruin]

tbf

thats most bosses honestly

only a few actually majorly change the world

[spare pier]

It's about time we renamed Signus tbh

[dusk laurel]

Yharon's titles got changed and his rework is still waiting on the resprite
I'm not too worried or concerned, just more confused

[pliant ruin]

based

[dusk laurel]

Finally

[split mortar]

FINALLY?

PLEASE DO

[fierce pagoda]

yeah right, but Signus is like apparantly the satan of the distiortion, a being equal to Noxus

[warm gull]

it's interesting to me that signus has decided to wear humanoid clothing

[fierce pagoda]

you'd expect something

[split mortar]

Probably makes it more approachable to everything

Like even the distortion has some coherency, there’s a rhyme to the creatures just a different one to terraria

But signus just seems like a big blob of mouths

[pliant ruin]

yeah i imagine he wears clothes like taht because he dosen't want to immediately scare away the people he wants to make deals with

under there i imagine hes

a blob of mouths yeah

even his "eyes" arent true eyes

[split mortar]

Mimikyu type shit

[pliant ruin]

theyre also a mout

[dusk laurel]

Mouthmalgam

[split mortar]

I think the idea of people mistaking the teath for eyes is cool imo

It’s what I did with this signus

Not the redesign

The old

[fierce pagoda]

wonder why Singus doesnt even attempt to make a deal with us

just straight to battle

we weren't cool enough for him

[split mortar]

Permapse they do when reworked

[fierce pagoda]

What if on Statis last quest, he asks you to kill signus, but when you get to signus, he tells you to kill statiss for him

so you have to choose which one to kill

but thats probably not happening

[split mortar]

Moral choice so I don’t think that will happen

[dusk laurel]

Killing Statis makes Braelor a boss

[hybrid barn]

Honestly, I'm kind of surprised his name hasn't been changed yet
Like, it kinda makes sense that it'd be paired with his rework, but at the same time, I think there's been a few updates since he stopped being the "envoy of the devourer"

[dusk laurel]

Trust me

[fierce pagoda]

By the point we get to Brealor, arent we already stronger?

[pliant ruin]

Yeah devs have said they don't want moral choices

[fierce pagoda]

no wait i dont think so

[spare pier]

We just had trouble coming up with a title replacement and it wasn't our priority so we kinda just forgor

[hybrid barn]

Oh okay! That's fair enough

[indigo glade]

Truly one of the most threating bosses...

||Signus.||

[split mortar]

Signus, eldritch dealmaker

[pliant ruin]

Signus eldritch dealmaker goes pretty hard

[spare pier]

Making a rename for a Boss is tricky specially in this case because

[fierce pagoda]

I cant take his name seriously, cuz it sounds too much like Sigma

[spare pier]

Instead of Jungle Dragon

[fierce pagoda]

i always make that joke

[spare pier]

The title still is kinda good

[faint plank]

Σs

[dusk laurel]

[devout grotto]

Same 😭

[fierce pagoda]

wow i thought it was intentional to leave it as text

[hybrid barn]

Demonic presence, Signuts

[faint plank]

_ _

[dusk laurel]

It was, I just decided to see the cat

[devout grotto]

Erm, what the Sign- gets stoned at

[fierce pagoda]

Sigma sigma boy sigma boy sigma boy

[split mortar]

🪨 🪨

[fierce pagoda]

those look like clouds kinda

[spare pier]

It's the same reason I have been having trouble coming up with an Old Duke rename

[empty dew]

We all know and hate "What the Signus"
But we don't have an answer to "Who is Signus", and "Why is Signus", and "How is Signus"

[spare pier]

It's still a good name and the change of title is so drastic

[devout grotto]

Real

[pliant ruin]

I mean based on his aesthethic an japanese/chinese (forgot which one is closer to old dukes design specifically) name might b good

[empty dew]

Ancient Marquess

[pliant ruin]

shinryu is one that was proposed that i felt like was a goo basis

[spare pier]

Yeah but some people on the team think a solo title is better

[devout grotto]

Eh, still feels a bit more like a Western dragon

[spare pier]

Which, still works, Old Duke is fucking old

His name could've just been forgotten to time

[pliant ruin]

His body is wyvernlike

[split mortar]

Not in terraria

[empty dew]

Albert

[pliant ruin]

But his head anatomy is very much inspired by asian dragons with stuff like the beard and antlers

[empty dew]

An old romanian name

So, uhh... checks out, slightly?

[dusk laurel]

[pliant ruin]

I feel like a synonym for -old should be kept
ancient, elder, etc

[split mortar]

Primordial duke

[hybrid barn]

Elduke?

[pliant ruin]

Well i think the main thing is that they want to get a new name that isn't Duke

[fierce pagoda]

Since the terrarian is the one who names things, can't the name just be something like "Ancient dragon" or something. its not like the terrarian would know its true name anyways

that also makes me wonder how the hell did we name Signus

how do we know that name

[split mortar]

Statis

[fierce pagoda]

oh right

[hybrid barn]

In the future, the answer will probably be Statis

[fierce pagoda]

it just iisnt in'game yet

so i didnt consider it

what about eidolon wyrm

how do we know that one

or primordial wyrm for that matter

[hybrid barn]

...good question actually, since I don't know if Yharim even knows about those guys

[pliant ruin]

/shrug

[fierce pagoda]

unless you mean to tell me that isnt actually their real names

wella ctually no

[split mortar]

jared is the real name of pw trust

[fierce pagoda]

Yharim mentions them

in a lore item

I think he mentions it in the duke fishron lore item?

[light linden]

random thing

[dusk laurel]

Timeless Tormenter of the Seas?

[fierce pagoda]

"it is known that Fishrons, Follies, and the Abyssal Wyrms survived the purging hunts of the Deific Era.
Notably, they now are all reclusive or exceedingly violent. It is tragic how they evolved to be that way."

here it is , Yharms tells us

[light linden]

am I crazy or are exo twins the only boss that fight using speed in lore?

[fierce pagoda]

don't know about the "Eidolon" part though

[split mortar]

Twins?

[light linden]

artemis and apollo

[fierce pagoda]

DoG is pretty fast, so is Yharon too i suppose

they both ram you and speed is important for rams to hurt

[split mortar]

Eoc

[dusk laurel]

Old Duke has been around since the Draconic Era blah blah blah, also he's like a detriment to everything around him

[hybrid barn]

I had a thought earlier, speaking of that, and this reminded me...I think it'd be kind of cool if instead of being named directly after the in-game names of the bosses or locations they're assigned to, the lore items were named based on what Yharim would call them

It'd be a small detail, but I just feel like that could be cool

[fierce pagoda]

Thats a mouthful

[dusk laurel]

True

[fierce pagoda]

Triactis true paladinian mage hammer of might

[spare pier]

It'd be cool but it'd probably lead to needless confusion and make looking the items up very awkward

[light linden]

is yharon even keeping his dash in the rework?

[hybrid barn]

Ehhh, good point

[devout grotto]

🤔

[light linden]

Rebecca can I ask another lore question please?

[spare pier]

Shoot

[fierce pagoda]

💥 🔫

oh sorry i thought you meant to shoot like literally

[dusk laurel]

Why would they remove his dash in the rework

[light linden]

Is there any lore to spectre and/or shroomite?

[spare pier]

Nothing specific

Granted I saw someone mention it and I thought of a cool explanation for Shroomite

[empty dew]

Actually, is there any lore behind any Vanilla armor set?

[fierce pagoda]

Who would win: souls of the damned or blue mushroom

[split mortar]

Tie

[spare pier]

None specific either

[light linden]

ok ty

so I might go with that idea for my add-on then

[fierce pagoda]

Is there any lore about the permanent life consumables that is getting added in-game

[split mortar]

Uh, nothing I can think would be major

Maybe the post ml ones but that’s it

[hybrid barn]

I'm interested, may I ask?

[fierce pagoda]

that would be cool

[empty dew]

...and as for Calamity, only Silva and God Slayer, right?

[fierce pagoda]

like Elderberries putting you at your prime age and stuff

[light linden]

speaking of which

[spare pier]

That being, the Autohammer is used to turn the Glowing Mushrooms into fine powder, which then are coated into Cholophyte. Due to it being a plant-based ore, the Glowing Mushroom seeps into it and grows into a new layer, which makes the metal somewhat stronger

[light linden]

Y'all know how some auric dragons gave up their soul?

[spare pier]

Tl;dr you're literally giving Chlorophyte a coat of paint

[hybrid barn]

Oohhh, so not quite lore so much as an explanation for how it works, that's cool!

[spare pier]

Glowing Mushrooms also have a general thing with boosting the efficacy of healing and mana potions, so there is a precedent for that

[light linden]

You think it would make sense for a god to willingly die to Yharim's forces?

[dusk laurel]

For armors with lore?

[light linden]

cause I've been thinking about that God of Fungus idea from like 2 weeks back a lot

[fierce pagoda]

unless they were suicidal i dont think so

[split mortar]

One with crippling suicidal ness yeah

[fierce pagoda]

Yharim has ways to contain their essences anyways

so not as if they were planning to have their essence spread on purpose

[empty dew]

Ye

[light linden]

I forgot about that

[fierce pagoda]

well at least later on

[empty dew]

And Auric, I think

[fierce pagoda]

but ealry he didnt have ways

and thats why crimson and corruption are a thing

along with hallow

[dusk laurel]

Arsenal, Silva and Auric I think are the ones with lore

[hybrid barn]

Or functionally delete it, by way of
✨ The worm✨

[fierce pagoda]

which Yharim never mentions

[split mortar]

Auric corrupted by god essence possible?

[light linden]

I was thinking that God of Fungus willingly died to his forces so his essence could be spread and make the glowing mushroom biomes

[dusk laurel]

Well, as in they appear in the story

Not just a thing the Terrarian made themself

[light linden]

still wonder if shadowspec is supposed to be corrupted auric tbh

[dusk laurel]

I think most armors with the exception of the dedicated, cryonic, plague, astral, Godslayer, Exo and Demonshade could very well have already been used before the Terrarian makes them

[light linden]

ik shadowspec doesn't have lore

[split mortar]

That is the case I think? Back when it was calamitous essence it was auric corrupted by her power I think?

[light linden]

don't see why it couldn't still be

[split mortar]

True

[light linden]

btw speaking of armors and what not

y'all think cloud elemental armor giving you a lot of extra flight time in exchange for very little defense makes sense?

[fierce pagoda]

We have an example of calamitous essence mixing with auric sorta, and thats the Iridescent excalibur

but i dont think that weapon is canon

[split mortar]

It is, it ain’t shadowspec

[dusk laurel]

Not really, unless it somehow has magic imbued into it

[fierce pagoda]

but its a blatant reference to the exxo avalon mod isnt it

[split mortar]

Draedons heart isn’t a blatant reference so like idk

Also it’s a reference?

[fierce pagoda]

yeah it was named the elemental excalibur before

[dusk laurel]

The affect of Avalon on Calamity

[fierce pagoda]

and it was a refrence to a weapon of the same name

from exo avalon

[light linden]

that's kinda what I'm going for

[hybrid barn]

Apparently it is!

[light linden]

it's supposed to be armor infused with a bit of an elemental's magic

[fierce pagoda]

wait i thought Dreadons heart wasnt canon

you telling me it is?

[dusk laurel]

Orderbringer was also a blatant reference

Before the rename

[split mortar]

Uh, didn’t think it was myself

[light linden]

purely theoretical for now but hey it's good practice

[split mortar]

Apparently it doesn’t fall under the blatant reference thing

[fierce pagoda]

so the renames removed them from blatant reference hell?

[dusk laurel]

No clue

[fierce pagoda]

God damn it

okay what does count as blatant refrences

[dusk laurel]

Murasama

[fierce pagoda]

how blatant does it have to be to be counted as blatant for clamity

where is the line

[light linden]

warframe weapons, murasama

[fierce pagoda]

if its a direct item rip then its easy

but if things like tooltips count

then it gets messy for me

[light linden]

still hoping we get an incarnon warframe reference tbh

[split mortar]

Draedons heart isn’t a blatant reference somehow

[light linden]

tbf it's one quote

[split mortar]

It’s entire functionality is a reference to senator Armstrong