sorry for that tho
#lore-discussion
visual kiln
fierce pagoda
the dogs do be piling
pliant ruin
Omni
personally this seems like
more of a problem with ur own mindset than us respectfully
wheat walrus
sorry for that tho
nonfactors in an argument of 3 people at most should just be ignored
deft vessel
Piling dogs is rude
visual kiln
nonfactors in an argument of 3 people at most should just be ignored
probably true
fierce pagoda
yeah lets pile cats instead
visual kiln
valid
woeful karma
calamity mod discord
spare pier
This is just not compelling and something we don't set up anywhere. Past Wall of Flesh no Boss is just "thing that exists", all of them have some explanation as to how the fuck they're so strong, and then suddenly there's the possibility of animals this strong?
fierce pagoda
Cat pilled
deft vessel
yeah lets pile cats instead
You animal piler
pliant ruin
icto jumspcare
woeful karma
boo
warm gull
I don't think there was a dogpile it was literally just that you presented a point of view that people disagreed with how did you expect that to go?
visual kiln
😨
wheat walrus
nonfactors in an argument of 3 people at most should just be ignored
most of the people chatting here, including me weren't even actually contributing to the argument in any meaningful way so idk
spare pier
This is just not compelling and something we don't set up anywhere. Past Wall of...
In Old Lore it kinda worked with shit like Plantera which was Just A Random Plant, DoG being just a fucked up worm, and all that stuff
visual kiln
I don't think there was a dogpile it was literally just that you presented a poi...
maybe im just rlly stressed today but i dont like having to debate 5 ppl at the same time
wheat walrus
yall just either manage to ignore your way through randoms and keep arguing yall 3 or move it to your own stuff
spare pier
But right now every Boss has A Reason as to why they're so powerful
visual kiln
yall just either manage to ignore your way through randoms and keep arguing yall...
byeah this prob
fierce pagoda
i dont mean it like that
spare pier
It doesn't work to be mysterious for the sake of mystery right at the end
warm gull
mysterious for the sake of itself is
spare pier
While I do agree that Wyrms could perhaps not be Draconic Offshoots, the truth is there'd just be something else in there
warm gull
did any of you guys watch Lost
indigo glade
While I do agree that Wyrms could perhaps not be Draconic Offshoots, the truth i...
Clearly the solution is that you make them the ancestor to the Auric Dragons.
warm gull
While I do agree that Wyrms could perhaps not be Draconic Offshoots, the truth i...
pretty much my view as well
spare pier
Clearly the solution is that you make them the ancestor to the Auric Dragons.
So true
warm gull
I do think wyrms being just another dragon is kinda boring
but like
an explanation is always better than none
light linden
hey rebecca can I ask a question?
deft vessel
Gyrms ?
indigo glade
hey rebecca can I ask a question?
Only one, and you already used it.
warped rapids
wyrms were gay
this goes hard
cloud ibex
how do you know they aren't
visual kiln
that'd easily give them the power to rival calamitas tbh
spare pier
Another thing, I think there are just so many times you can throw out
"This is the apex of nature"
And I don't think Wyrms work as that
fierce pagoda
dont wyrms get bullied by reaper sharks
visual kiln
elder reaper shark >>> noxus
spare pier
I mean, you want omega powerful animal in the Abyss with barely any explanation as to why it's so strong?
warm gull
wyrms should be a completely separate clade of organisms that never evolved sexual reproduction and still procreate via mitosis, but multicellular
spare pier
Reaper Shark is right there 
deft vessel
Ok but hear me out… elder grubby
fierce pagoda
is isnt a mysterty? it clearly works out and is on steriods
indigo glade
Reaper Shark is right there <:hdflr:1216214022630936658>
It has arms.
No other fish has arms.
Creatures on the surface have arms and are strong.
warm gull
reaper sharks should not have arms it looks so goofy
indigo glade
Clearly this means strength comes from the arms.
fierce pagoda
reaper sharks should not have arms it looks so goofy
that can be fixed with a respite dw
dusk laurel
True
spare pier
And they will
deft vessel
So the strongest being in calamity is the deersclops shadow arms, since they are pure arm energy
spare pier
Reaper Sharks not having arms kinda kills all of the originality in the concept imo
Sometimes things are very silly and make no real sense
But it's cool
warm gull
that can be fixed with a respite dw
no I mean just in general a shark body plan with primate arms is wacky imo
light linden
I mean they do have a reason to have them
wheat walrus
more of a problem with ur own mindset than us respectfully
going back to this since I don't think I made my point clear enough, I'm annoyed by yall debating over that especially because, as I said, the last times it happened it wasn't that great at all, it was better this time, but I don't think this is just "my own mindset" than yall dawg, yall previously demonstrated to just be able to go on several hours argument only for no form of agreement to come out of it, I therefore assume that a situation building up similarly to that previous situation won't end well
it didn't end badly but I also do not see one bit of where my own specific mindset comes into this, if you are annoyed by people yapping y'all don't want it to happen and may even try to slow things down or stop that
light linden
they use them for hunting
wheat walrus
whatever
wheat walrus
tired as hell now and this is just beating dead horses
warm gull
Reaper Sharks not having arms kinda kills all of the originality in the concept ...
I just think they should have some other sort of non-primate manipulars tbh
indigo glade
reaper shark with mantis shrimp arms
You're right. Mantis Shrimp also have arms, and are powerful.
deft vessel
But how about mantis shrip arm on mantis shrimp arms
light linden
speaking of mantis shrimp
wheat walrus
black flash
light linden
I've always wanted an accessory from them that just does some dumb stuff
warm gull
me when I see people who I respect have an utterly indefensible viewpoint on media and literature (I now have to either kill them or never speak to them again)
dusk laurel
spring helm
hello
i just spent like an hour going through this chat again to see what i missed but i kinda gave up
wheat walrus
wait a sec or two
dusk laurel
I love lurking
spring helm
outside of the usual Rebecca v Cheese & Azzy argument, did i miss anything
wheat walrus
starts here, mostly triangle talking
spring helm
that sounds about right considering Signus can make deals and stuff while DoG only eats things
dusk laurel
Signus is like the devil of the Distortion, roughly equal to Noxus
I think got that right
dusk laurel
Yeah
wheat walrus
in terms of power, I'd assume Noxus is a bigger destructive thing
wheat walrus
DoG supposedly is a part of Noxus' army thing, Signus is independent from it, working as its own thing kinda like Noxus
Signus does things quite differently from Noxus though, of course
split mortar
Signus is the jared of the distortion 
wheat walrus
yea
dusk laurel
wheat walrus
basically Signus scams you
warm gull
signus is a scammer from the distortion (ebay)
dusk laurel
Local scam artist, he even has a whole cloak on
wheat walrus
Signus gives you shitty deals, makes you go through them except somehow the wording of the deal was even shittier and forces you to go through even more shit, basically it's a winwin for Signus and you're not getting much from it
indigo glade
Signus is a loan shark.
split mortar
Signus is capitalism
warm gull
I'm the banm
dusk laurel
I love taking out loans
visual kiln
where r u now huh
pliant ruin
wtfrick
dusk laurel
That's a 6 month old message
cosmic zenith
Reaper Sharks not having arms kinda kills all of the originality in the concept ...
Honestly I think there are much cooler ways to make Reaper Shark original than "arms"
deft vessel
Blade arms
deft vessel
Arm arms
light linden
ngl I always thought their fins were supposed to be like scythes
spring helm
Reaper shark spinning in place like Sonic
sudden ruin
wtf
lilac lake
Thoughts?
split mortar
Don’t get why wof death boosting sunken sea means otonilou is in wof
Since slimes get buffed versions and I don’t see slime god in wof
I disagree but prob too tired to form much of a reason why rn
But I don’t see anything immediately wrong with it other then Draedon leaving same time as perma and scal
dusk laurel
WoF's destruction causes a lot of things in general
faint plank
-> 
<-
split mortar
WoF's destruction causes a lot of things in general
^
Even dragon offshoots appear
dusk laurel
And ML's death will also cause a lot of things too
Granted it only causes profaned stuff and the dungeon to change as of current
fierce pagoda
I think that in lore
what changes isnt caused by moonlord
but by you now being recognized more
the dungoen senses a guy increasing in power, reminding them of Yharim, that is why they pull up only after you've killed moonlord
even if they are present from the start
and you're now on providence's radar now that you are a potential threat to her, since shes like "yo this guy killed moonlord, he's legit"
so thats why the profaned stuf pulls up on you only after moonlord
as for the exodium clusters i have no clue at all
maybe Moonlords essence spilled out and materialized as small planetoids in the atmosphere
dusk laurel
Probably
fierce pagoda
Amidias seemed to know a bit about moonlord
and also hes quite strong, so the fact that he pulls up is enough to alarm people,
kinda like how in Dragon ball, when someone REALLY strong appears, the Z fighters are like "Whats this huge energy??!!!" from half the planet away
but really fuck that Dragonfolly is stronger than Moonlord
it feels like a narrative fumble
fumblebirb
fierce pagoda
There probably is a really good reason as to why they are stronger
dusk laurel
But I don't think one individual birb is stronger than a weakened ML yeah
fierce pagoda
but making this silly looking dragon be stronger than Moonlord was certainly a choice
fierce pagoda
yeah i wouldnt be surprised that if you fought a swarm of pretty powerful dragons, you would probably struggle more then against a single weakened moonlord
but in-game you fight ONE
fading helm
literally pet made idc
fierce pagoda
probably the strongest one but still
like it would feel more epic is moonlord was stronger than this random ass dragon bird
Like Moonlord loses a bit of Aura knowing hes weaker than dragonfolly
fading helm
Like Moonlord loses a bit of Aura knowing hes weaker than dragonfolly
mfer is weaker than storm weaver
thats just basically a child dog
dusk laurel
His wretched son
fierce pagoda
but maybe its to show how far down Moonlord fell, before he was able to go toe to toe with ALL of the true auric dragons, but now he fell so far down he's not even able to fight off an OFFSPRING
so in that narrative point of view
its quite fitting and poetic
fading helm
btw is signus something from distortion? i lowkey forgot his new lore
indigo glade
literally pet made idc
"If not friend, why friend shaped?"
gritty kraken
but making this silly looking dragon be stronger than Moonlord was certainly a c...
This remind me of the time I thought crabulon is a post-ml boss
dusk laurel
indigo glade
btw is signus something from distortion? i lowkey forgot his new lore
Yes.
fierce pagoda
mfer is weaker than storm weaver
Storm weaver i can get behind, cuz its a being from the distortion, that is way more understandable than an animal from earth
but i get your point
scenic olive
bumblefu
fierce pagoda
also moonlord IS severely weakend after all, so
fading helm
not aureus
fading helm
Also I just noticed you're SSJ5 Goku.
scenic olive
give moonlord Redbull and fight Xeroc
fading helm
astrum deus has a lot of hype but he is like lunatic cultist level
its wraps
😔
On another note he is one of my favorite lore pieces
faint plank
to voy a hacer sentir la escencia
fierce pagoda
Do you know what i wish happened? that celestial onion was rethemed into Moonlords heart, call it the "celestial heart" or whatever. It would be more serious, AND it would mirror the demon heart, another heart you consume at a significant point in progression which grants you an extra accessory slot. what to we think?
fading helm
reminds me of fovos
fading helm
Do you know what i wish happened? that celestial onion was rethemed into Moonlor...
why is it even called celestial onion
dusk laurel
Onions are based
fading helm
Do you know what i wish happened? that celestial onion was rethemed into Moonlor...
tbf moon lords heart is massive
fierce pagoda
and onions make you cry,
fading helm
like 3x player
fierce pagoda
and it drops from moonlord, thus,"celestial onion"
gritty kraken
Do you know what i wish happened? that celestial onion was rethemed into Moonlor...
Heart of Cthulhu
fading helm
Oh btw question
what was moonlords old lore
considering auric dragons
didnt really exist
fierce pagoda
wow yeah i think it was
he was an evil primordial being made up from many dead gods or something
and xeroc fought him
fierce pagoda
yeah that part
fading helm
that made noxus
fading helm
i think he and some other god named "steve" i think made noxus
from all other dead dark gods
then xeroc beat his ass
and left him trapped
dusk laurel
i think he and some other god named "steve" i think made noxus
I'm crying 😭
Steve
What's next? Herobrine?
faint plank
oh god
dusk laurel
scenic olive
fading helm
it was either steve or brian
dusk laurel
fading helm
might just be tripping tho
fading helm
thats moonlord
faint plank
nameless deity
fierce pagoda
do we fw dark god and light god lore
dusk laurel
thats moonlord
That's vanilla or smth
fading helm
do we fw dark god and light god lore
nah i dont
fading helm
That's vanilla or smth
oh so it was moonlord and chtulu who made noxus
scenic olive
guys trust me aureus is dark god
fading helm
?
dusk laurel
iirc yes
fading helm
Xeroc was doing a lot in old lore
dusk laurel
guys trust me aureus is dark god
@ garbotheaureuslover
fading helm
he traumatized yharim brother
wait no i think he just got summoned by him
i need to reread old lore
brb
scenic olive
dusk laurel
Bye
scenic olive
@ garbotheaureuslover
John wulfrum is light god fr
dusk laurel
Guys I have a theory
faint plank
old lore
like old
hunt for the old god omg
scenic olive
slime lore
dusk laurel
Goozma, Perennial, Aero, Gamma, etc.
faint plank
slime lore is more depressing than scal lore (real)
dusk laurel
The Perennial Slime was slain by Noxus, it split into the Virulent Paladin and Gunk Zero
fierce pagoda
Is wulfrum an alloy or a metal
dusk laurel
This is totally real lore guys
scenic olive
what is slime
fierce pagoda
like wulfrum ore type hsit
scenic olive
bestiary
fierce pagoda
small gelatinous creatures
dusk laurel
So real
fierce pagoda
thats all slimes are
dusk laurel
I also saw it being used for foils
fierce pagoda
me too, wulfrum is very a very frail metal
scenic olive
ground jellyfishes
dusk laurel
Jellyfish but primordial
scenic olive
Land
dusk laurel
No limbs
fierce pagoda
but very versatile
scenic olive
Land jellyfish
dusk laurel
Jellyfish are evolved slimes
This means a Perennial Jellyfish can theoretically exist
scenic olive
why don't we have slime that grows legs and ran when we hurt them
fierce pagoda
we have those giant ameboas in real life? they kinda look like slimes
faint plank
i hate you
dusk laurel
Wha happend
gritty kraken
Is wulfrum an alloy or a metal
Wulfrum god dead body
faint plank
why don't we have slime that grows legs and ran when we hurt them
_ _
fierce pagoda
shouldnt slimes be evolved jellyfish
fierce pagoda
is evolution even real is the bigger question?
faint plank
or jellyfish are evolved slimes...
scenic olive
dusk laurel
or jellyfish are evolved slimes...
faint plank
box jellyfish reverie
scenic olive
does slime feel pain
fierce pagoda
what does Yharim mean when he says slimes can gain knowledge, if only in rudimentary form
like only the most basic form of knowlegde thourgh absorbtion?
if they consume cryoore they become cryonic, but is that really information/knowledge
isnt that just kinda like me being painted with acrylic paint
faint plank
i can type in a discord server so
actually it might just be like
being able to remember if the player hit them or not
fierce pagoda
yeah okay if its things like that i get it
i always thought he was referring to their ability to absorb matter and take its characteristics
like growing wings after absorbing aerlite
but if its things like kings and enemies it makes it more broad
dusk laurel
Also following orders from SG maybe
Since the paladins are not always directly controlled iirc
dusk laurel
I love slimes
fierce pagoda
so they must understand that royal gel is something that is to be respected
or not messed with
dusk laurel
Somehow this is a slime
fierce pagoda
i dont feel like slime god counts as a true slime
because he was human who turned slime
faint plank
i like to think that slimes are connected in a way
dusk laurel
Solidified purified gel cage
fierce pagoda
he isnt a real slime
dusk laurel
He has way more intelligence yeah
dusk laurel
i like to think that slimes are connected in a way
A slime hivemind would go hard tbh
fierce pagoda
hes like a half human slime hybrid, more so than an actual slime
lethal heron
Is eye of Cthulhu meant to be the eye of fovos in cal or just some unrelated monster?
dusk laurel
Unrelated
fierce pagoda
True eyes of cthulhu are fovos eyes
fierce pagoda
did moonlord just look like himself, but with legs pre dragon fight
faint plank
clearly moonlord is weakened fovos
fierce pagoda
or did he change more
dusk laurel
did moonlord just look like himself, but with legs pre dragon fight
No clue
fierce pagoda
if he had legs though
was it like tentacle legs
or human legs
imagine ursula from ariel
gritty kraken
I think he had a tentacle legs
gritty kraken
cause the vanity item say so
lethal heron
Well if you believe the moonlord legs from zenith seed tentacles
indigo glade
What if Moon Lord never had legs in the first place.
fierce pagoda
he just had a stump?
dusk laurel
What if Moon Lord never had legs in the first place.
Okay Diogenes
gritty kraken
Wheels
lethal heron
indigo glade
He just looks like that, and we are all making fun of him for looking like that.
lethal heron
Yeah I understand it’s a zenith seed item but we don’t haven’t any other official depiction of his legs so it’s probably right
fierce pagoda
Im gonna request to red to try and make moonlord legs obtainable in regular seeds so that it does count
dusk laurel
fierce pagoda
the emoji
dusk laurel
This?
dusk laurel
Yeah
lethal heron
So the lyrics of roar of the jungle dragon are canon right?
dusk laurel
Yes
light linden
what do y'all think illmeris had as local delicacies?
fierce pagoda
what do y'all think illmeris had as local delicacies?
fish
those crystal looking fish look delicious
light linden
what fish and which part though?
fierce pagoda
maybe slugbuns are like proper royalty food
dusk laurel
Hermititan legs
dusk laurel
maybe slugbuns are like proper royalty food
☹️
I will never forgive Amidias if this is the case.
fierce pagoda
it just feels like royalty would eat the most fucked up food, kinda like how the french have that one meal
dusk laurel
Snails
fierce pagoda
where they feed a bird until it does of overeating
and then wear paper over their head before they eeat it
to hide their face from god, since the act of preparing the food is so shameful
lethal heron
They definitely eat the crabulon crabs as a delicacy
gritty kraken
Goldfish
dusk laurel
They definitely eat the crabulon crabs as a delicacy
I just said that,,
Hermititan legs
Those are the original Crabulons
The normal ones
fierce pagoda
I will never forgive Amidias if this is the case.
I lowkey feel like Amidais would be a vegan
lethal heron
When are we told about the names of the crabs?
fierce pagoda
cuz he loves life too much
dusk laurel
When are we told about the names of the crabs?
Like a month and a half I think
Maybe 2
Or 3
lethal heron
Like will they be a thing in sunken sea overhaul?
dusk laurel
The 2nd time it was mentioned was 3
dusk laurel
SSO has already been taking 7 months?
Triangle worked on it a lot before Bountiful Harvest
But not a lot of code was worked on I think
fierce pagoda
I see, that makes more sense
dusk laurel
And other spriters also made a couple things
fierce pagoda
sprites seem like they finish faster than animating and coding
and coding the animations
and not to mention the testing
dusk laurel
Scavengers are like a new species in the Timeless Shores
lethal heron
scavengers?
fierce pagoda
they didnt exist beforethe timeless shores became a thing?
dusk laurel
They moved in iirc
fierce pagoda
from where do you think
Scavengers are small hermit like crabs
that like treasure
fierce pagoda
wait let me see if i cna get a sprite of it
fierce pagoda
hell yeah
lethal heron
Yeah he’s definitely a scavenger
fierce pagoda
is that a backpack, or a shell that looks like a backpack
lethal heron
Probably a shell
lethal heron
Have we been shown a sprite for hermititans?
lethal heron
Is crabulon getting a redesign?
lethal heron
I was gonna say the sprite looks fine as is
fierce pagoda
is be pretty freaked out if i saw one in real lif
faint plank
fo-
dusk laurel
veanator
faint plank
nom
dusk laurel
I wonder how developed the Scavenger civilization is [it's not even one lmao]
fierce pagoda
scavengelization
stark basalt
lethal heron
Is fovos at all related to noxus?
fierce pagoda
I could honestly see it going both ways
dusk laurel
Random ass space squid humanoid thing that killed a bunch of large birds
fierce pagoda
but if I was forced to guess at gun point, I would guess Fovos is not connected to distoriton
So according to the Cosmic mine entry it takes a lot of enegry to open rifts to other dimensions
Noxus is strong enough to rip a rift in space and have it stay open for a long ass time
or maybe he is skilled in portal making, and can make them stable through sheer skill
fierce pagoda
can you say it anyways and spoiler it
dusk laurel
||It would be really funny if Noxus was just another fucked-up space squid-adjacent creature, haha||
fierce pagoda
The ultimate form of life, ||space squid||
have you heard theories about how Squids are actually aliens
faint plank
goozma dlc
fierce pagoda
like irl squids are not from earth originally
dusk laurel
I haven't
fierce pagoda
no wait it was about octopuses
i think
i got it confused since in my language octopus and squid have the same name
fierce pagoda
which is kinda misleading
cuz he word directly translates to ink squirt
and i think squids dont do the ink thing?
or do they?
dusk laurel
Wasn't it octopi that didn't shoot out ink
fierce pagoda
no they both do wow i looked it up
fierce pagoda
i guess its accurate then!
dusk laurel
dusk laurel
fierce pagoda
what the hell
apparently octopuses is the "correct" plural spelling
since the word isnt form latin origin
fierce pagoda
thats why i put it in "correct"
dusk laurel
Octupuses and octopodes is latin
fierce pagoda
since its valid to say all three
dusk laurel
Yeah
faint plank
calamaries
fierce pagoda
well it says that the word octupus is a greek-derived english word
which means i dont know
baking my octopies
dusk laurel
English is trully the language of all time
dusk laurel
I spelt it wrong,, 
fierce pagoda
try to say all those correctly
dusk laurel
dough, cough, hiccough, trough, through, thorough, though, tough, etc.
Hiccough is a crime
Old spelling of hiccup
Pronounced the same way
fierce pagoda
tuff as in that one minecraft block, tough as in "im a tough and strong man", though as in "i like him though", through as in "through the hole" and trough as in the terraria item money trough
colonel is evil
try to pronounce Crwth
its a real word
dusk laurel
I am dumbfounded
I like how our little discussion of crabs devolved into making fun of english
fierce pagoda
Ever heard about the invisible hand of capitalism? We have an invisible hand here too, expect instead of guiding the economy, it guides the lore chat to off-topic discussions.
dusk laurel
Crazy, new invisible force in Calmain just dropped
faint plank
my evil spells are part of the invisible ingame forces
fierce pagoda
What is the latest slime in the game and what is the strongest slime?
I think uelibloom slime is the latest
fierce pagoda
your influence ends post providence slime reverie
Seriously queen slime is the strongest?
there isnt maybe any other later slime that may be more powerful?
dusk laurel
I don't think so no
fierce pagoda
actually no, the other slimes are probably getting removed
dusk laurel
Gunk Zero is the strongest post-ML
fierce pagoda
yeha right gunkzero
dusk laurel
Currently known as gamma slime
fierce pagoda
you dont think Gunk zero could take
ueen slime?
or would it be no diffed since slime god can control it?
fierce pagoda
Slime god should have just gone to the acid rain and gotten gunk zero
form the start
but maybe that would go against his ideology
but then again he did go for hallowed energy as soon as it became available
dusk laurel
I wonder how strong SG could have been if he didn't restrain himself
Maybe like mid-hardmode
fierce pagoda
yeah then theres that
faint plank
post old duke
dusk laurel
How many paladins would he have
fierce pagoda
once for each major biome imagine
spring helm
slimes do that when you get enough of them
faint plank
god
bottom text
fierce pagoda
Slime is the origin of all life...
dusk laurel
Beloved
fierce pagoda
Silva started out as a slime and evolved to other lifeforms over time
the further life evolved, so did Silva along with them
that would be kinda cool actually
Silva takes after the life that is present on earth, and after humans came long she got a humanoid form
or maybe its the other way around
Silva looks like silva, and humans evolved to resemble silva more and more
Lilith from Evangelion type shit
faint plank
or the bible
dusk laurel
Imagine if, a slime consumed the entire world soul
fierce pagoda
Stronger than Xeroc
dusk laurel
No way ML could beat that
fierce pagoda
Xeroc only has primlordial light and dark
imagine if he had everything else too
or maybe it wouldnt be that big of a difference
tall delta
also, in goozma mod lore, how does goozma have an auric soul?
something something singularity
fierce pagoda
like imagine if strengh wise primordial light is like 99.9 percent of the sternght, while ALL the other domanins combined is only 0.1 percent
that would be crazy and probably isnt the case
but how much stronger could primlight be from the next strongest domain?
ok let me ask this, is the power of an auric soul determined by the Domain, the strength of the dragon, or both at the same time?
like if Zeratros was weaker, would Xeroc also have been weaker?
or would Xeroc still be just as srong
dusk laurel
Weaker
fierce pagoda
since primordial light domain is strong either way
dusk laurel
Strong dragon + strong individual = strong god
Also the domain and the world soul shard size also plays a factor
fierce pagoda
alright, so if someone consumed Yharons soul, they would be the next strongest god? if they too were strong themselves of course
dusk laurel
Shakidou
fierce pagoda
Would consuming Yharons soul make us stronger than Shakidou, assuming we were equal to them pre acension?
dusk laurel
No clue tbh
fierce pagoda
you dont think so? even if we know that Yharon is the 2nd strongest dragon ever?
spare pier
Would consuming Yharons soul make us stronger than Shakidou, assuming we were eq...
I mean, you objectively cannot be as strong as them if you have Yharon's Soul
tall delta
kinda weird how xeroc was the only god to train
real silo
ok let me ask this, is the power of an auric soul determined by the Domain, the ...
Both
Yharon's domain is not combat oriented
fierce pagoda
I mean, you objectively cannot be as strong as them if you have Yharon's Soul
what do you mean?
real silo
Yharon is only so strong because his body is jacked
spare pier
To kill Yharon, you have to be stronger than him
fierce pagoda
take for example two shakidous, one gets the gravity auric soul, while the other gets Yharons soul
which one would be stronger
real silo
Gravity
fierce pagoda
in a hypotechical sccenario were they get the soul for free
spare pier
Shakidou was NOT as strong as Yharon before ascending
fierce pagoda
yeah but like what if, Shakidou just so happened to get Yharons auric soul magically
it just spawned in front of them
spare pier
take for example two shakidous, one gets the gravity auric soul, while the other...
Debatable, I personally think in terms of raw stats, the one who got the Gravity Auric Soul
But whoever gets Yharon's Soul is
Functionally immortal
So
fierce pagoda
wow even if Yharon was the 2nd strongest dragon ever?
His soul still wouldnt make Shakidou stronger then the gravity soul?
spare pier
Well ok I forgot to consider that
Yeah no they'd be overall stronger but Gravity is a far more versatile domain
fierce pagoda
eah no i get that, theres more to a fight then strength
spare pier
Rebirth has a few things but its main thing is making you fuctionally immortal
fierce pagoda
abilites play a role too
but basically what i was asking was that if auric souls get stronger based on the dragon
and not just the domain
spare pier
Yeah, usually the stronger the Dragon, the stronger the Ascension will be, but that goes for both sides
fierce pagoda
like if you have two dragons with the same auric soul, one dragon slacks off, while the other dragon trains like hell, the trained dragons auric soul would be stronger then the ones soul who slacked off?
fierce pagoda
Yeah, usually the stronger the Dragon, the stronger the Ascension will be, but t...
yeah okay that was the answer to my question
so soul strength isnt solely relied upon your domain, but also yourself too
kinda inspiring
you dont need to luck out on a powerful domain, you can train and still reach high peaks
as Goku said, "On this planet, we know that even the lowest-born can outdo the elite if they work hard enough."
On everything Goku is such a goated character
hot valve
Of course everyone’s free to have their own stories for their own characters
But considering if i take off my terrarian’s armour that he gets one shot by a large number of entities in the game, my terrarian is actually physically unimpressive
fierce pagoda
Armor is harder than flesh i suppose
wouldnt need to wear armor if our skin was as hard as the armor we were wearing
hot valve
I’ve always considered my headcanon for the terrarian is that they’re simply another npc who decided to step up
hot valve
What’s the one thing the terrarian is good at? Crafting tools and armour
Hence I think of my terrarian as the blacksmith npc
fierce pagoda
I think that life crystals and shimmer consumables, along with life fruits and other permanent consumables like celestial onion, demon heart and all the health updgrades makes our durability better
hot valve
No but that’s funny
hot valve
I think that life crystals and shimmer consumables, along with life fruits and o...
Yeah but they are evidently very minor lmao
fierce pagoda
Lol thats fair
but as you said i just headcanon that they do make us more powerful than they do in-game
real silo
Life crystals aren't minor they triple your health or something
dusk laurel
Quadruple methinks
fierce pagoda
from 100to 400
hot valve
True
fierce pagoda
then 400 to 500 after life fruits
real silo
And then another 100 with the other fruits
fierce pagoda
you could also maybe argue that your mana buffs your stats
hot valve
I just think that the terrarian is capable of making weapons stronger than anything else in the world
Like they do disgustingly high damage
fierce pagoda
like if your mana is high enough you can make strong shields like Scal
and the more potent and vast your mana is, the better you can do this
all the mana upgrades are bound to give our character some really potent mana
hot valve
Obviously you could boil this down to it being gameplay, but I like to headcanon the terrarian crafts these world tearing weapons- and that’s the only way they can keep up with the insane durability of the bosses
fierce pagoda
but hell, even without armor, we have accessories that directly increase our durability
the accessories makes our flesh stronger
and whats the difference between eating life crystals and permanently equipping an accessory that alters your biology
yeah the weapons are really the crutch of the terrarian
hot valve
A lot of the accessories are just worn but I don’t really have an explanation for stuff like living dew lol
fierce pagoda
we just make really powerful "guns"
like humans have no chance against elephants, bears and whales
but with weapons we solo
thats what the terrarian is doing
hot valve
Draedon’s exo technology when it tries to damage the terrarian and fails to kill vs one tyranny’s end bullet killing the terrarian 10 times over
I have no idea how calamity scales the terrarian without armour tbh
Perhaps you’re supposed to just make that part up as I am here
fierce pagoda
I think that part is just completely left up to headcanon ngl
hot valve
I know yharim without armour is still rather strong just nearly not as much as he is
fierce pagoda
much easier for the devs that way
than to justify whether the terrarian actually needs armor or not
I still think Yharim is a beast without his armor, but WAY more powerful with it on
the terrarian could be the same, or not depending on what you head canon
but I can safely bet that an in-game no armor terrarian is way weaker than a hypothetical no armor Yharim
Lowkey an ingame terrarian's durability is just a joke compared to the bosses we fight
the bosses takes like a million hits to die from us, but we usually die from less than 10 consecutive hits from a boss, regardless of armor or not
its our ability to dodge everything that decides the match
neat tinsel
its our ability to dodge everything that decides the match
so it’s just punch out but with overconfident cosmic worms
spring helm
I doodled a more in-game accurate sized Ark of the Cosmos but I think I made it too big
hoary berry
now i'm just imagining the scenes i've written with AotC using those proportions
pliant ruin
Big
real silo
Smallest endgame sword
hoary berry
imagine trying to cross the street with that sword on your back
glass tartan
I doodled a more in-game accurate sized Ark of the Cosmos but I think I made it ...
That is GINORMOUS
glass tartan
imagine trying to cross the street with that sword on your back
Or in your pocket.
spring helm
Have you seen how big it is in-game
untold oracle
I’m thinking of all the cool stuff that luminite armour can do
I headcanon vortex armour can shoot out bombs from wrists
devout grotto
Hmmm
Kinda related because Pillar stuff but I headcanon that instead of being spread throughout the Heartlands, the Pillars would just surround the Dungeon within a certain range
Can't find the exact words but imagine the Monoliths from Vita Carnis
split mortar
Of course everyone’s free to have their own stories for their own characters
B...
For me I headcanon that bosses aren’t a “equal” fight but that they’re when the Terrarian is fighting someone much stronger then them hence why they take minutes of constant attacking to beat
devout grotto
Can't find the exact words but imagine the Monoliths from Vita Carnis
Moon Lord fight will take place near the Dungeon 
pliant ruin
the terruian
pliant ruin
someone should make it so that their terrarians entire motivation is that yharim destroyed their favorite restaraunt this one time
untold oracle
Of course everyone’s free to have their own stories for their own characters
B...
The human body is quite fragile. I doubt prime Mike Tyson could survive a lunar deathray if he wasn’t wearing armour of extreme strength
untold oracle
someone should make it so that their terrarians entire motivation is that yharim...
”They served my favourite Crème Brûlée, and now it’s gone! Gone!”
pliant ruin
i have
isaac, tmod, vanila terraria, limbus, ruina, needy girl overdose, OMORI, ultrakill, webfish
im feeling like playing something terraria adjacent... perhaps ill continue my spirit playthrough
untold oracle
Mayhapse
fading sun
Kinda related because Pillar stuff but I headcanon that instead of being spread ...
what is a heartlands
devout grotto
The continent the game takes place in
pliant ruin
name of the continent the game takes place on (not rly fully canon but is headcanon of devs
fading sun
devout grotto
”They served my favourite Crème Brûlée, and now it’s gone! Gone!”
I can imagine Aspen/Ayla crying pissing shitting their pants like in here 
https://youtu.be/AW58uEEh_pQ?si=zoiNDSWG_cPVvsDS
split mortar
isaac, tmod, vanila terraria, limbus, ruina, needy girl overdose, OMORI, ultraki...
Ultrakill
devout grotto
(I have both Trailblazers' voices as my Terrarians' voiceclaims 
)
split mortar
im feeling like playing something terraria adjacent... perhaps ill continue my s...
Oh alright
split mortar
Pretty sure they aren’t
Hallowed exists after wof dies
There would be more evil biome in game if they were to be in other continents
Yeah some god essence would be influencing places but even the pre hm ones have like probably dozens of gods
pliant ruin
I can imagine Aspen/Ayla crying pissing shitting their pants like in here <:xing...
fuckjing jumpscare
devout grotto
Ok but I've also thought of alternate voiceclaims for both versions of my Terrarian now 
Aspen gets Dan Heng's voice and Ayla gets Xueyi's
split mortar
lol
spare pier
one of those names is scarily close to my irl name
Hello Dan Heng.
real silo
Hello alya
spare pier
Hi Xueyi
real silo
Clearly cheese's name is daniel hengkerchief
cloud ibex
cheese is daniel hentschel?????????????????
indigo glade
Hello, mortals.
strange stump
theres a scottish guy outside
untold oracle
Gasp
strange stump
i dont know what his deal is
gritty kraken
Are ther any lorous reason why aquatic scourge fly
real silo
Hi sticker of brow ledge
indigo glade
theres a scottish guy outside
Shout loudly, and say funny and bizarre insults.
real silo
I'm sure it's a very reasonable deal
cloud ibex
"i hope nobody hears our terrible secret", i say to my friend
indigo glade
It is how Scottish people decide the scottiest.
cloud ibex
"i did" said big ears man
strange stump
Shout loudly, and say funny and bizarre insults.
thats true....
spare pier
Damn
pliant ruin
you actually got the one i was reffering to right
spare pier
Girl there is ONE NAME THERE THAT COULD BE YOURS
untold oracle
”I was just about to get started on my duty as a night guard when my phone rang.”
”Hello? Hello hello? Uhh, I wanted to record a message for you…”
pliant ruin
idk what xueyi means but it could technically be that one
i wouldnt pick it tho bc like
spare pier
Unless you're fucking named Aspen
pliant ruin
imagine ahvinga very obviously asian rooted name and you live in mf
brazil
🇧🇷 numero um campeao do mundo
real silo
Yeah
spare pier
So true
real silo
I mean alya doesn't seem very brazillian either
indigo glade
Unless you're fucking named Aspen
What's wrong with being named Aspen?
real silo
Aquatic scourge pen
real silo
lord christ is behind me
Merry christmas !
pliant ruin
almost
untold oracle
Aliyah was what I thought of
real silo
Aliya
real silo
Alya is such a malaysian coded name I can't imagine a brazillian having it
spare pier
I can because it's fucking Brazil
real silo
Why is the name fucking brazil the country
pliant ruin
we have a winner
strange stump
honestly when you think about it
theres nothing more christian than playing doom on christmas day
_ _
well
real silo
God dammit I should've said it first
real silo
I KNEW aila was possible but I thought it was too obvious
indigo glade
i just cant name them
Being crucified?
spare pier
i mean there are things more christian
Yeah like killing people for not believing in your God
pliant ruin
being crucified on christmas can either be really christian or heresy depending on who you are
real silo
Yeah like killing people for not believing in your God
Hey that's just like the thing I'm currently writing !!
spare pier
Sorry got a bit too political there
untold oracle
I sure hope nothing diabolical happens
indigo glade
I just realised Sleepy's profile picture is Calamitas with a Santa hat.
untold oracle
Jollymitas
spare pier
I sure hope nothing diabolical happens
The egotistical Lucifer:
mighty zenith
gritty kraken
what if instead of jolliness we spread misinformation like providence is yharim mother on YouTube shorts
real silo
Yhar mama
cloud ibex
The egotistical Lucifer:
spare pier
Kills you
indigo glade
what if instead of jolliness we spread misinformation like providence is yharim ...
What if instead we beat you down relentlessly with metallic bats.
strange stump
being crucified on christmas can either be really christian or heresy depending ...
fuck you
that made me laugh for a minute straight 😭
real silo
The plot thickens
cloud ibex
Providence used astreal defeat
those two guys yapping about video games except it's cal lore misinformation
spare pier
That's just a podcast
real silo
You're a modcast
cloud ibex
real silo
Peam
cloud ibex
but look at this
spare pier
You're a modcast
Well you're a STINKYcast
cloud ibex
it's providence, goddess of cinders
indigo glade
I killed Santa once.
gritty kraken
What if instead we beat you down relentlessly with metallic bats.
danm 🦫
hoary berry
I killed Santa once.
did his corpse explode into tinsel and baubles
spare pier
Skill issue
cloud ibex
I will have you know I just got out of the shower
better hop back in then
spare pier
You are STINKIESTcast
cloud ibex
‼️
real silo
💥
indigo glade
did his corpse explode into tinsel and baubles
This isn't a video game. Corpses don't explode everytime.
strange stump
well
real silo
Rebathca
strange stump
not with that attitude
untold oracle
did his corpse explode into tinsel and baubles
I think he respawns the next day
split mortar
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/767950470874398720/956000393773604874/E...
STINKIER THEN GARBO
hoary berry
kiwi knife...
real silo
yes
untold oracle
The holiday cheer marches triumphant
real silo
Go my people
indigo glade
STINKIER THEN GARBO
Says you.
untold oracle
You are lucky melon can’t react here
hoary berry
STINKIER THEN GARBO
i'm sorry to tell you...
split mortar
Fuck you on about
split mortar
i'm sorry to tell you...
That ain’t stinkiest
indigo glade
You are lucky melon can’t react here
I think you mean Pear.
untold oracle
Lemon actually
real silo
lem on deez n
hoary berry
That ain’t stinkiest
if supreme stinker has admin privileges i will explode
strange stump
literally stinks like bitch in here
hoary berry
uh
split mortar
Garbo is in the server that’s innacurate
hoary berry
calamity lore https://docs.google.com/document/d/1G63D-OxernUH2gk1xPcYayK7x9KV3VFLZZGLYjDLWRo/edit?usp=sharing
untold oracle
Guys is it completely out of character if Providence lets some of her followers die just to fuck around with the terrarian
Oh yeah the blessings she had given prolly return back to her so it would make sense?
pliant ruin
in general i dont see providence as the type of person who would do stuff just to fuck with people
she's evil, but not sadistic, atleast how i see it
split mortar
Guys is it completely out of character if Providence lets some of her followers ...
Only thing that may be out of character is them trying to cause mental pain to the terrarian
split mortar
she's evil, but not sadistic, atleast how i see it
She the opposite
She wants to rid everything of pain iirc
pliant ruin
yah
it'd be counterproductive for her to inflict pain on others when her entire philosophy is that death is the only way to not feel pain
i imagine her being rather "merciful" in her fucked up omnicidal way, if that makes sense
untold oracle
I have it that she attempts to kill the terrarian painlessly but abandons it as it is proven too difficult
hollow bay
"You won't just let me do it? Incineration it is then"
untold oracle
Literally
I haven’t figured out how but profaned shitstorm is the way to go what I planned
cloud ibex
man providence really is the Frenzied Flame
pliant ruin
whwen my flame is frenzied
brave dew
if supreme stinker has admin privileges i will explode
What server is this
split mortar
What server is this
El huevo
dusk laurel
Wha happened
hoary berry
purged
pliant ruin
wojak bear is dead
dusk laurel
Oh yeah
hoary berry
to make room for stuff that would be used more frequently
pliant ruin
idk the context for wojak bears death but im glad
dusk laurel
el huevo purges of november
hoary berry
idk the context for wojak bears death but im glad
cheese character arc wth
untold oracle
wojak bear is no more
I was wondering how long will it take for it to be purged
hoary berry
wojak bear friend --> wojak bear hater
mighty zenith
untold oracle
No cheese is sleepy
mighty zenith
cheese is dmon