lore-discussion

[split mortar]

The big main one is her heart iirc

So I can see it

[untold oracle]

Exactly

It would also nicely go against her character

[split mortar]

Would it? There’s a guardian healer so I would doubt it?

[untold oracle]

Mm yeah true

Wait the healer is the one with the crystal in the middle?

[split mortar]

Pretty sure yeah

Cause defender has thick wall and commander has spike

[untold oracle]

That goes perfectly then

With the thing I’m writing

[faint plank]

mreow

[untold oracle]

Mrrow :3

[dusk laurel]

mrrp

[hollow bay]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/982430240393543694/1082831707885023332/20221006_174036-1.gif

[devout grotto]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I will quit Calamity if that happens

I mean those are really isolated tribes/peoples anyway

[split mortar]

*when

[devout grotto]

STOP

I LITERALLY MISSED THOSE CUTE LITTLE GUYS

[split mortar]

Perennial slime hasn’t been removed yet

[devout grotto]

YET

[hollow bay]

You will become de-slormed

[untold oracle]

Can someone give me the metaphor image

[hollow bay]

The what?

[devout grotto]

If the Perennial Slime gets removed, I demand a Perennial Slime pet

[hollow bay]

Make one yourself, coward

[devout grotto]

I've wanted one since 2020...

[devout grotto]

Fair enough

[hollow bay]

Learn to mod and become all powerful

[untold oracle]

Consult calval devs

[dusk laurel]

It will

[hoary berry]

#lore-discussion message

this?

[dusk laurel]

[untold oracle]

Yes…

Finally

[faint plank]

real

[dusk laurel]

Aero slime is the only ore slime that will survive the purges

[untold oracle]

Why are ore slimes purged

[devout grotto]

[light linden]

Yeah why are they?

[dusk laurel]

They will be replaced by unique enemies

[split mortar]

Perennial won’t be an ore
Scoria will be scoria critters
Idk the others

[light linden]

Ore slimes make some sense

[dusk laurel]

Slimes are kinda boring design wise

[untold oracle]

Oh okay cool

[devout grotto]

But they can be cute...

[hoary berry]

scoria doesn't even have an ore slime does it?

[devout grotto]

I love cute stuff

[faint plank]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1112873622562947104/1273122201750470707/e42a3804-52c3-43a7-be64-05b7f55f7b77.gif

[split mortar]

Think it used to

[split mortar]

Will be erased; enjoy while you can

[hoary berry]

yeah it did

but not now

[light linden]

Ngl

[hoary berry]

devil fish and the puffer guy drop it now

[light linden]

I'm surprised there aren't slimes in the abyss

[faint plank]

evil fish

[light linden]

They're basically dense water

[dusk laurel]

High water pressure kills them immediately

[split mortar]

Might be unable to handle the super dense liquid

[hollow bay]

Abyss slime but it's just a cube

[light linden]

Pinky prolly could survive

[faint plank]

it would float

[split mortar]

That eats gold

[hollow bay]

Just a solid cube that charged at you

[dusk laurel]

This too

[split mortar]

Oh yeah slimes float

[dusk laurel]

Slimes can't go below the surface of water

[hollow bay]

Then we force it down until it gets compressed enough to sink

[split mortar]

Then it’s dead

[hollow bay]

First we summon king slime

[faint plank]

x-x

[hollow bay]

Then we grab some rocket boosters

Boom, abyss slime

Not literally boom

[light linden]

Actually this reminds me

[hollow bay]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/982430240393543694/1082831707885023332/20221006_174036-1.gif

[light linden]

I kinda wish perrinial ore spawned in the abyss

[dusk laurel]

Too crowded I imagine

[hollow bay]

It does feel fitting thematically

[light linden]

Considering it's supposed to be tied to Silva

[dusk laurel]

Scoria and planty mush already generate there

[light linden]

Hell you could just have it spawn on the abyss side of the map and it'd make some sense

[faint plank]

isnt planty mush what ties silva to the abyss already

[hybrid barn]

Maybe there could just be a chunk of it at the bottom

[hollow bay]

Get scoria out of there and dump it somewhere else

[dusk laurel]

No

[split mortar]

What even is scoria

Like

[hollow bay]

Explode all the scoria ore

[dusk laurel]

Hydrothermal ore thingy

[faint plank]

hot rock

[sudden ruin]

molten ore kinda

[light linden]

Volcanic rubble

[untold oracle]

Hot rock

[split mortar]

Tectonic metal??
What does that mean ?

[hollow bay]

Metal

That is tectonic

[dusk laurel]

Perennial won't generate in the abyss because

The perennial bark will spawn it its own biome

[split mortar]

it will be trees

[light linden]

Personally I've always thought scoria was stronger hellstone

[dusk laurel]

And the abyss cannot fit it

[pliant ruin]

scoria is a rela life thing

its volcanic rock

[devout grotto]

[faint plank]

alsoinstperennialpartiallyalive

since plant yk

[devout grotto]

I know CalVal adds Astral Blight slime critters

[frozen zodiac]

that does make some sense actually, considering its so far into the depths maybe its stronger because of the much harsher conditions of the abyss like all the pressure

[split mortar]

Perennial is just divine chlorophyte I see

[faint plank]

pressure calval into adding perennial slime pets

[hollow bay]

Perenial is just chlorophyte's cooler cousin

[pliant ruin]

It's literally just igneous rock

[devout grotto]

Maybe turn the Perennial Slime into a critter? 👉🏼👈🏼

[devout grotto]

‼️

[split mortar]

Damn

Random rock be letting people be stronger then gods

Random volcanic rocks

[dusk laurel]

I wish scoria bars weren't just bars

[frozen zodiac]

am i the only one that sees orichalcum as a mage material for some reason

[dusk laurel]

But like a larger chuck of hydrothermic ore

wait

I said perennial

[faint plank]

fruity mythril

[hollow bay]

Mods! Execute them

[faint plank]

from rock to slightly polished rocks

[charred prism]

Bubblegum ore

[frozen zodiac]

Mythril is for Rangers
Orichalcum is for Mages
Adamantite is for Melee
idk why my brain sees it like that

[split mortar]

Ok but yeah orichalcum more magic and mythril more physical

[hollow bay]

It's commonly depicted as a magic material in media, maybe that'S like subconsciously squishing in?

[untold oracle]

Would be funny if I mention the names of each chapter within them

[dusk laurel]

I remember gram did this actually

[faint plank]

yes

[dusk laurel]

Wahat

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/404775224106811412/1110625448683118753/Scoriabutawesome.gif

[faint plank]

defiled greatsword jumpscare

ok yeah left one is so much cooler

[untold oracle]

Yoo the left one is amazing

[dusk laurel]

It's a shame that

gram left in

[frozen zodiac]

it really feels like "raw" scoria with that less rectangular shape

[devout grotto]

I was confused with the emoji then I remembered that was a thing

Not like I witnessed it tho

Nor do I even wanna know what went down

[hollow bay]

I have no idea what's going on

[hybrid barn]

But why the wasp...

[dusk laurel]

22

[frozen zodiac]

wasp22
distant cousin of garn47

[devout grotto]

I had my fair share of drama from the Genshin community for the past four years, I don't want to know nor give a fuck about what happened while I was gone from the Calamity community

[hollow bay]

That means nothing to me

[dusk laurel]

[untold oracle]

What if perennial generated from Slime God again and the bars were renamed back into Draedon bars

[devout grotto]

[devout grotto]

Real

[hollow bay]

Nah, we gotta turn draedon himself into weapons

[frozen zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/wallace-wensleydale-hammer-gif-20832217

like this?

[hollow bay]

More or less, yeah

[cloud ibex]

mold

[hollow bay]

Or just tie him to a stick, that probably works

Swing him around a bit

He seems pretty heavy

No wonder he never gets out of that chair

[frozen zodiac]

draedon baseball bat

[dusk laurel]

Did you know
That isn't his body

[robust osprey]

I will defeat you with my draesword!

[dusk laurel]

Draedon uses too many drones

He needs to change his ways

[untold oracle]

Guys what if desert scourge generated aerialite and it is found underground

[hollow bay]

He probably never leaves his chair anyway

He's still a robot

[devout grotto]

I wanna make that joke but I'll get thrown bricks at

[frozen zodiac]

i mean if you rearrange his name it spells Dronead

[hollow bay]

Still metal

Needs to lose weight

[light linden]

Y'all think draedon has ever made a microwave?

[cloud ibex]

i gotta be honest i have no idea what That joke would be

[hollow bay]

You fool, draedon IS a microwave!

[light linden]

Also another thing

[untold oracle]

Draedok is still in my toaster, I know it

[cloud ibex]

a weapon that utilizes the technology behind a microwave for combat? i can imagine it

[light linden]

Y'all think draedon has ever made a rocket launcher for infantry?

[untold oracle]

Yes.

[hollow bay]

You face off against draedon and he's just like

"MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM"

As he liquifies your insides

[light linden]

This reminds me of something

Y'all know what I'm talking about when I say wfcd?

[hollow bay]

Nope

[light linden]

It stands for Warframe community discord

[hollow bay]

Ah

[robust osprey]

wot

[hollow bay]

Yeah I don't do acronyms very well

[light linden]

There was someone named microwave who got banned for spam

His spam was just him saying "mmmmmmm" constantly

And he tried to appeal the ban and uh

[robust osprey]

mmmmmmh

[untold oracle]

”Why should you be unbanned?”
”Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm”
-# they’re thinking really hard give em time

[light linden]

The appeal was just the word "ding!"

[robust osprey]

truly a legend

[split mortar]

Did it work though

[indigo glade]

That is certainly a way to end the bit.

[light linden]

No

[split mortar]

:(

[hollow bay]

Blasphemy!

[robust osprey]

I mean he was a microwave

microwaves cannot talk

thats discrimination

thats microwasism

[light linden]

Even if it did work they deleted the account right after sending in the appeal

[hollow bay]

Tragedy

[untold oracle]

I read this in an uwu voice in my head

[robust osprey]

well he already did the "Ding!"

he served his purpose

[robust osprey]

why

[untold oracle]

the w in the middle…

[faint plank]

camaliwty

[hollow bay]

Ah yes, Camality, my favorite tettaria mod

[pliant ruin]

Clamity

[dusk laurel]

Klam metey

[untold oracle]

The cawamity mow..,

[pliant ruin]

cawamity mowd ^-^

[faint plank]

those who calamity :skul :

[hollow bay]

https://tenor.com/view/swadloon-destroyed-beam-pokemon-obliterated-gif-25800479

[pliant ruin]

owie.... why would u do that to me :(

im just a girl

[faint plank]

my partner associates me a lot with that pokemon for some reason

[untold oracle]

Are you covered by a blanket looking silly all the time

[indigo glade]

Swadloon is just a little guy.

[hollow bay]

I should send them that gif then

[faint plank]

possibly

[sudden ruin]

he just like his banky

[faint plank]

oh dw i will

[hollow bay]

And now you're kersploded

[indigo glade]

Leaf blanket.

[cloud ibex]

government orders sorry

[faint plank]

i love me some leaf blanket

[strange stump]

hand on the bible

did my daily prayer

and i am ready to discuss

whats good, nerds?

[pliant ruin]

did u know that oarfish are the longest known fish

well bony fish

[faint plank]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1181117483260850226/1280128099031453788/squish.gif

[pliant ruin]

whale sharks are longer i think

[dusk laurel]

Hagfish are killable

[indigo glade]

Are Whale Sharks sharks or whales?

[strange stump]

oh and i have several bayonets by my side

but whatever

[pliant ruin]

they r hsaks

sharks

[hollow bay]

Most fish are

[pliant ruin]

hagfish are not killable theyre actually immortal

[indigo glade]

Hsaks.

[sudden ruin]

[untold oracle]

We aw discuswingw fiswes it sewms ^-^

[dusk laurel]

Why are all of the immortal animals in the ocean

[hollow bay]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/982430240393543694/1082831707885023332/20221006_174036-1.gif

[pliant ruin]

did u guys know the largest bony fish known is a fatass prehistoric whale fish thing

[strange stump]

i genuinely cannot read that

what the fuck are you saying

[pliant ruin]

Leedsichtys beloved

[sudden ruin]

we are discussijg fishes it seems

[hollow bay]

I am unfortunately cursed with the ability to read that

[pliant ruin]

Largest known bony fish

Lived in the late jurassic

filled hte same niche as modern whales p much

[faint plank]

pogging

[dusk laurel]

fishpog

sharkpog

[pliant ruin]

funnily enough still not the largest fish as a whole

because if you count cartilaginous fish uhhh

[hollow bay]

My favorite prehistoric fish

[pliant ruin]

yeah megalodon exists

[hollow bay]

SACABAMBASPIS!

[pliant ruin]

megalodon is actually like

fucking comical

who the fuck decided it was okay for there to be a 100 ton macropredatorial shark

[hollow bay]

I did

Not sorry

[pliant ruin]

yes, i'm not exagerating when i say 100 ton

the most recent articles put it at that for the largest individuals

idrm the specific size

[hollow bay]

Fun fact: We can be sure that no megalodons are still alive by the size of whales

[pliant ruin]

but it was somewhere on the low 100s ballpark

[strange stump]

i can win against a megalodon

probably

[hollow bay]

If a predator like that existed they would not have evolved to that size

[pliant ruin]

We can be sure that no megalodons are not still alive by the fact: It makes absolutely no sense

like

100 ton giatn whale sized animal

[faint plank]

like titanoboas!

[pliant ruin]

somehow hasnt been discovered

and also

[hollow bay]

I can win with enough preptime

[pliant ruin]

said 100 ton animal is a macropredator

[hollow bay]

No fish can defeat a thermonuclear device

[pliant ruin]

like ur telling me

[strange stump]

well

yeah

your right

[pliant ruin]

theres a healthy population of 100 ton sharks out there that have just stayed 100% hidden from humans both in modern age and on the fossil record

ppl who think megalodon is alive r like

insane

[strange stump]

i have another way to win against any fish

its called a gun

[hollow bay]

I mean, you need a big gun if the fish is the size of a bus

A bus won't care if you shoot it with a handgun

[strange stump]

i got some large guns

you know what they say!

_ _

[pliant ruin]

my fish discussion has turned into brainrot discussion

[strange stump]

Bitches love canons.

[pliant ruin]

fish nation loss...

[hollow bay]

_ _

[hollow bay]

I have shared my favorite fish and nobody cared, so I'm taking everyone down with me

Via thermo nuclear device

[strange stump]

pick up an anti tank rifle

and pull the trigger

boom

easy

anyway

how many hotdogs can yharim eat

[dusk laurel]

1

[hollow bay]

Like at least 7

[strange stump]

with yharim's age

[hollow bay]

Maybe even 8

[strange stump]

more than eight and suddenly he gets a heart attack

[hollow bay]

New way to fight him unlocked

[faint plank]

in that case yharim would die if he drank a mcdonals sprite

[strange stump]

yeah

i can see that

[hollow bay]

that's how they got him the first time

[light linden]

Random thing

Y'all think the heat venting from Thanatos could be used to cook a chicken?

[dusk laurel]

Vaporized

[untold oracle]

It would be very throroughly cooked

[serene tundra]

Cook it NOW

[untold oracle]

It might grow branches or scales in the process (assuming anything is left after the process)

[light linden]

Related question

How poorly do y'all think draedon would react to being asked that?

[untold oracle]

He would be like
”Absurd. Why would you even think of using energy of such a magnitude to a mundane task like that?”

[frozen zodiac]

"Regardless, the heat released from my machinery is far too high to even consider it usable for a recipe. The food used would evaporate within seconds of making contact with even the surface of my creations."

[hollow bay]

And then he'd proceed to solve world hunger in an hour and just not distribute the technology at all

[devout grotto]

[frozen zodiac]

"No, I did not use exo machinery to cook it, please grow up."
yharim turns into a tombstone

[devout grotto]

Hmmm

Kind of thought up of a possible eay to characterize my Terrarian

Maybe at first they're prone to losing their shit but as time passed and will the help of some other characters, they're able to manage those emotions more

[hollow bay]

Charecterization isn't my strongsuit. I started off with a vampire for no reason but now I have... whatever this is

[untold oracle]

For me it goes exactly the opposite way

[devout grotto]

Of course, like my random SCal quote-thing said, it's more or less a façade

The more they find out the effects of the Crusade, the more they wanna lose their shit

And it all culminates into them doing the villain monologue during their encounter with Yharim instead of the other way around

[untold oracle]

We meet, at last… Oh Yharim, now dawns thy reckoning…

[devout grotto]

PLS

Despite having him as an inspo, Terrarian will NOT spare Yharim like Aang did with Ozai

[deft vessel]

And thy gore shall glisten, before the temples of Terraria

[warm gull]

there is only one calamity in the calamity mod

[untold oracle]

Creature of Auric, my gratitude upon thee for this honour. But the crimes thy Crusade has committed against humanity are NOT forgotten…

[devout grotto]

And thy punishment...is DEATH

[pliant ruin]

there are six calamities in the evil mod

[deft vessel]

Awakemilk

[untold oracle]

SolidFellow | Boring-girl

[strange stump]

someone give me an interesting fact

[indigo glade]

I exist.

[cloud ibex]

FACT: cats can have a little salami

[strange stump]

what an interesting fact

[mighty zenith]

as a treat

[hollow bay]

Caterpillars have some butterfly parts already in their body. When they cocoon they then turn to soup

[random mulch]

water is the only non-metallic substance that gains volume when it freezes

[untold oracle]

Wires

[serene tundra]

(INTERESTING) Fact: You deserve interesting facts!

[dusk laurel]

Cyrillic was invented by the Bulgars after migrating into the Balkans and establishing the 1st Bulgarian Empire

[deft vessel]

The ancient Roman marble statues were actually painted

[spring helm]

The USA spent a billion more dollars developing and producing the B-29 Superfortress than they did developing the atom bomb during WW2

I wonder what the culture around body modification is like in Calamity

Gender fluid people carry a rack of gender potions around to swap whenever they feel like it

[fierce pagoda]

do you think Permafrost is getting a bit of his dialigue changed in the SSO update

and maybe Scal too?

[mighty zenith]

yes

[spring helm]

Most likely

[mighty zenith]

scal has been outright confirmed

i imagine perma too

[serene tundra]

I think Yharon in fact can be a chef without oven or some stuff like this. And cook food really fast

But he also might overcook it

[warm gull]

snails have "teeth" analogous to other mollusks's beaks that are deep inside their mouths and used to chew

[frozen zodiac]

oh so thats why they eat leaves

[split mortar]

I imagine quite openly fine, cyborg exists and the wulfrum prosthesis is a common thing for people

[river python]

we need an Exo-Wulfrum machine

[fading helm]

superboss

[river python]

The Wulfrum and the Tungsten are the same material? like irl?

[split mortar]

Yeah irl they are the same I think

In calamity i don’t think they are

[river python]

oh

okay

[split mortar]

Considering wulfrum is weaker and less defensive

[indigo glade]

No. It is Wolfram.

[frozen zodiac]

i wonder if there could be more complex versions of the wulfrum prosthesis some day

[split mortar]

Ares exo skeleton

[frozen zodiac]

like at some point instead of just draining mana it actively debuffs enemies

[river python]

the wulfrum in calamity is like the copper, considering the Pickaxe of copper is equal to the wulfrum drill

[indigo glade]

Wulfrum is just very flimsy.

[river python]

i thought the wulfrum was a version of the wolfram for calamity

[indigo glade]

Wulfrum is a made up material. Just because its name originates from a real life material's alternate name does not make it linked.

[split mortar]

It’s properties is very different to irl which is why I think they’re different

[frozen zodiac]

that must suck your prosthesis just falling off

[split mortar]

Well wulfrum is very easy to get and re use

So it would suck

For like 10 minutes

[frozen zodiac]

what other uses could wulfrum have we dont see ingame

[spring helm]

It’s probably slag or something

Just a hodgepodge of whatever metals the makers can get melted together

[visual kiln]

wulfrum set is peak imo

[warm gull]

why

[visual kiln]

vfx + creative item design

[light linden]

still wondering if I should make that wulfrum-auric set or not

[visual kiln]

wdym

[light linden]

I'm designing some auric tier versions of earlier armors just to get better at sprite work

Only one I've made though is Auric-Omega Blue

[visual kiln]

wulfrum auric goes hard then

[real silo]

wtf show

that sounds really awesome

[light linden]

it's pretty bad

[real silo]

doncare

[spring helm]

Sounds cool, that’s good enough

[dusk laurel]

Yah

[light linden]

I uh

don't know if I wanna

maybe after I refine it more

[tall delta]

one auric dragon two auric dragons three auric dragons

[dusk laurel]

Okay Dr. Seuss

[light linden]

for a description the horns are changed to be similar to a dragons and the ends of the tentacles are dragon heads

[real silo]

Babger

[warm gull]

@tall delta

[tall delta]

yeah

[noble niche]

Clamity

[sudden ruin]

pretty much

[untold bluff]

What does cryogen have against ramiel form evangelion

[tropic oak]

ramiel too many sides and shapes

shapecist

[analog spear]

Lmao is that even a thing

[upper reef]

Yes

[analog spear]

Huh

Well call me a westerner and put on my trucker hat, I’ll be damned

[devout grotto]

Holy shit 🤯🤯🤯🤯

[gritty kraken]

This will be the abyss in 2025

[warm gull]

serve fresh ...

eat fresh ...

[pliant ruin]

Serve Fresh ...
Eat Fresh ...

[tidal tulip]

"She will soon remake it in her image. I can think of no worse fate for this accursed, hadal domain."

[untold oracle]

I’m not eating her :(

[hollow bay]

The joke is too obvious here

[real silo]

Dawg why would you eat stainless steel

[untold oracle]

Yum

[devout grotto]

[cosmic minnow]

Protein

[real silo]

Steel has no protein

Stupid

[warm gull]

proaganda

[real silo]

You can't even spell propaganda

Dumbquiri

[untold oracle]

Yhapaganda

[warm gull]

shut up ataxia

you're just a mildly annoying disease from the elder scrolls

you dissipate into the aether whenever I touch a Shrine of Talos

[real silo]

Only old people play elder scrolls

You are an old man

[untold oracle]

Daigramps

[warm gull]

I'm banning you both from sscls

you'll have to complain in here instead smh

[real silo]

My people will defend me

[warm gull]

you have no people

[cloud ibex]

Wrong

I’m here

https://preview.redd.it/does-anyone-know-where-these-two-comic-panels-are-from-v0-ufmp3dkmel8d1.jpg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ac595787e7dba309e58b9961a49f473dd95e7740

[warm gull]

for I am a highborn of the old guard

wtf

uperman

kryptonites you

[cloud ibex]

Disagree

[untold oracle]

Blocks the hammer

[split mortar]

Eats the kryptonite

[warm gull]

more like blades sheathed at moonset

heh

[cloud ibex]

Yea those nerds would

[warm gull]

you're interrupting my terraria fishing session with your (unwelcome) presence

[split mortar]

Cry

[split mortar]

About

[split mortar]

It

[warm gull]

no not you

you're too insignificant to interrupt anything, fortunately

[split mortar]

Eat

[split mortar]

Sand

[warm gull]

okiiii

eats

mmmmm tasty

[untold oracle]

Scares the fish with my presence

No more fishy for you

[warm gull]

you cannot scare anything deltaw

simply too silly

you inspire whimsy rather than scaring

[untold oracle]

Wdym I’m not silly at all

[mighty zenith]

killing fishes

[untold oracle]

Different server

[split mortar]

Still has the silly aura

[warm gull]

delton deltoff

[untold oracle]

[robust osprey]

exposed!!

[faint plank]

mreow

[robust osprey]

mrow

[untold oracle]

Miau

[hollow bay]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/982430240393543694/1082831707885023332/20221006_174036-1.gif

[untold oracle]

Guys where do you think Providence’s city is

I’m thinking it’s either underground or on an another continent

[split mortar]

Whar

[untold oracle]

I’m pretty sure she has a place she and her followers live in

[untold oracle]

Exactly

[pliant ruin]

tbh i dont imagine she has one

i think its probably really similar to yharim's crusade in that it's a massive nomadic group

[faint plank]

holy flames slime

[dusk laurel]

This makes sense

[hollow bay]

I think it's probably more worshippers everywhere

[dusk laurel]

Seeing as though her lackeys suddenly move in post-ML

[hollow bay]

Rather than one designated worship place

[stark basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-moon-lord-josh-hutcherson-whistle-gif-11278917756883322479

[brave dew]

Kana's return

[split mortar]

I thought her followers killed themselves in her name

[split mortar]

Kana has been back for a decent bit

Hope the mods don’t smite them again

[untold oracle]

Some of them did

[split mortar]

Ima be honest

Thought it was most

[devout grotto]

Ngl stuff like this is why I wanna borrow ideas from addon mods and such

[untold oracle]

I think it’s like something the most devoted followers do or some ritual they do after a certain point

Provi probably benefits from having alive followers

[untold oracle]

I just deviate from the gameplay altogether in some parts lol

[split mortar]

I will aswell if I ever write it

main thing I can think of is using orios’ dog and all exo mechs enter the final phase where they go all out, or the many times my guy experiences ship of Theseus for their body

[deft vessel]

I feel like writing the events before Xerocs ascencion and some of the aftermath

the I would be able to write GoM in there

[split mortar]

GoM?

[hollow bay]

Gooby ooby Mooby

For sure

[deft vessel]

Definitively

[untold oracle]

”Thank goodness it worked… Now that the Light is secured, I can finally get down on business and…”
Notices some guy recording in the bushes.
”What do you think you’re doing?”
”Hello guys, today I’ll be sharing a tutorial on how to Ascend successfully! (works in 1083!) First of all, I got this guide from that one monk guy over there in the distance, and as you can see…”
”Oh well.”

[devout grotto]

Same

[pliant ruin]

Provi followers kill themselves to be reborn as fucked up rock creatures as far as i'm aware

[deft vessel]

The ideal physicue

Or howerver you write that

[untold oracle]

I’m now thinking what do provi followers think of being killed

Like if someone attacked them would they just let them kill them

[pliant ruin]

Probably not

I think they're keeping themselves alive specifically for their cause

[split mortar]

Painful, no

[pliant ruin]

I imagine if they theoretically ever succeede

They'd just

Drop dead

Tho i wonder if any of them would like

regret

and start questioning if this is really rhe way to go

and be too scared to actually kill themselves

imagine a provi follower who ends up running away at the very last second during the ceremony of passage they do to turn into profane creatures or w/e

could make for a rly interesting character

[hollow bay]

The death thing is probably like a reward at the end of the life

Not something to be charged at, something you just get at the end

At least that's how it would make the most sense to me

[untold oracle]

Mainly just because would they be in fear if someone attacked their camp/whatever and began killing everyone

[pliant ruin]

I feel like they'd definitely fight back but whether they'd be scared or not is smth that requires alot of psychological analysis to rly determine

It would vary from follower to follower imo

[deft vessel]

Or ”purify” the most you can until ”purifying” yourself

[hollow bay]

Honestly, it can probably be compared to many religions that have an afterlife. Does their religion promise paradise after death? Yes. Do they commit mass suicide to get there? No

[pliant ruin]

The idea of a provi follower who balls out right at the last second when they were supposed to kill themselves because they start regretting joining the cult and get scared of death is a rly interesting concept to me

[hollow bay]

Surviving is an instinct that is as deep inside a person as probably possible

That's not something easily overcome

[pliant ruin]

yep

[deft vessel]

But cult leaders have been know to override this

[hollow bay]

You live, and therefore you don't want to die, that's how must animals are

With a lot of work, effort, manipulation and indoctrination

It can be over come

Just takes a lot to get people there

[deft vessel]

Mostly depends on how hard they belive that Providences way is the correct way

[hollow bay]

Not even that

just how hard killing yourself was pushed

[deft vessel]

But tbh i dont think Prov is too charismatic

wich is a MAJOR factor

[untold oracle]

I kinda imagine Provi’s people just assemble this massive fucking temple wherever they settle into with some god magic bs before they disassemble it when they are done with the region

[random mulch]

drew bonebag with my tablet

[untold oracle]

He looks pissed

[deft vessel]

He might have a bone to pick with you

[untold oracle]

He truly has some backbone daring to oppose you like that

[deft vessel]

Most certainly does not lack spine

[hollow bay]

Don't get in his way or you're boned

[untold oracle]

Truly, sent into the bone zone

[spring helm]

What the heck is in Terrarian honey that heals you more than a lesser health potion

[hollow bay]

Bees?

[untold oracle]

Buzz buzz

[split mortar]

He looks 47

[untold oracle]

I just realized I’m writing Léa go fight Provi with 2 hours of sleep and no breakfast

[split mortar]

Pfft

Lea having a horrible day that day

2 hours of sleep
No breakfast
Fight god

[spring helm]

The fact that you can make potions with just a flask on a table tells me that there’s no secret brewing method, you just stuff the ingredients in there.

[faint plank]

-# 🐝

[untold oracle]

”It just works!”

[split mortar]

Alchemy table is when you brew

And it is a bit more efficient

[spring helm]

The Aureus Cell is a Hardmode potion that is dropped by Astrum Aureus.

You can drink astral blight

[split mortar]

Aureus is made of potions

Draedon therefore knows alchemy

Wtf how is let’s fucking go the most used emote

[faint plank]

🦭⁉️

[split mortar]

It’s above

[untold oracle]

Check #mod-announcements

[split mortar]

Ah

[untold oracle]

Bruh she’s also partially wounded from the fight with the Guardians too

She just ignores all that because she hates Provi so much

[split mortar]

2 hours of sleep
No breakfast
Hospitalised
Kills god

[untold oracle]

Very barely

She also kinda gets killed but survives due to magic bs ™️

[split mortar]

Don’t we all

[warm gull]

sans undertale

[brave dew]

sand undrtal

[keen dock]

I swear the bestiary logs while brief add so much, heck it even tells us that beings like dragonfolly and old duke, the first draconic offshoots were actually dragons in every way but one, apparently according to the old dukes entry there was a limited number of auric souls and the offshoots of the draconic age are actual dragons.

[hot valve]

Yeah

[dusk laurel]

Yep

[keen dock]

Like if auric souls are limited and that dragons don’t just all have them by default then what does that make the auric souls, I love the unanswered questions I think it does so much more for the lore compared to just giving us a straight answer

[dusk laurel]

Yharon's bestiary entry may give insight

[keen dock]

Yeah

I just think it’s a good example of world building done right, like yes some things definitely need answers, like the answers as to what the world evils are is good since it adds to the history of the world while also adding to yharims character

Also ngl I really like yharim as a character since it just shows how war and endless conflict can really drive one to do deplorable things

[pliant ruin]

yharim is probably thje most well written character rn

hes a really great villain

[keen dock]

Cause yharim clearly seems to have regrets by the time the terrarian shows up

[pliant ruin]

he has regrets

just uh

not the right ones

[dusk laurel]

Yeah,,

[keen dock]

Like the fact that he welcomes the challenge of the player and almost seems to hope they succeed almost makes me think he wants someone worthy of the power he possesses to bring justice to him

[mighty zenith]

see, the issue with that

is you think yharim is actually noble

[keen dock]

He was, once

[dusk laurel]

The deaths...

[keen dock]

Not anymore tho

[mighty zenith]

or so he says

[dusk laurel]

100 million +

[mighty zenith]

remember that

[split mortar]

Once? His goal was world wide genocide from the beggining

[mighty zenith]

his goal has not changed

since the start

he's still completely deluded

[split mortar]

It has

It now includes genocide elementals iirc

[tidal tulip]

lmao tf did the elementals do 😭

[mighty zenith]

i mean it hasnt deviated from the god/worshipper killing

[split mortar]

Brim nuked azafure

[keen dock]

Yeah he did do that after the brimstone elemental went berserk

[tidal tulip]

silva gave them a bad rep

oh shit

[pliant ruin]

What did silva do tho

[tidal tulip]

oh yeah brimmy

[mighty zenith]

it just added elementals to it

[spring helm]

exist

[pliant ruin]

If anyone gave them bad rep its brimmy

[split mortar]

Be a god

[mighty zenith]

be a god

[strange stump]

pffft

[keen dock]

Silva is the most innocent of the gods

[pliant ruin]

not really

[spring helm]

we dont know that

[mighty zenith]

we can only assume

[pliant ruin]

we dont know her personality or morality

silva is unclear rn

[mighty zenith]

there's really nothing about silva currently

[split mortar]

We don’t know much about her or xeroc

[pliant ruin]

anyways yharim uh

[split mortar]

In terms of personality or what was happening before or during ascension

[pliant ruin]

yeah i think ppl miss the fact he actively incentivizes you to kill slime god and congratulates you when you do it, and actively comments on how he used to be a hero

[mighty zenith]

i love yharman he's so piss colored

[pliant ruin]

like

i don't think he regrets the entire Genocide thing very much if he looks back on himself in the past as a hero and actively is still incentivizing you to continue the Genocide

In fact

his entire motivation is almost 99% guaranteed manipulating the terrarian in succeeding his legacy

he's old and decrepit and knows he can't kill xeroc

[tidal tulip]

"now you must chase them to the ends of terraria"

[pliant ruin]

so he's trying to get you to do it

even if it means you kill him

because to him, his death is irrelevant if the crusade continues

what alot of people miss

is that yharim is very much not morally gray

[mighty zenith]

kids these days... always on their genocides

[pliant ruin]

he's a complex, nuanced character

[keen dock]

I think it was the loss of azurfare that ultimately sealed his fate, doomed to fall and become a being just as immoral as those he once hunted, mainly the gods who were evil cause some definitely were as seen through the crimson and corruption

[pliant ruin]

but morally gray? yeah uh. no not really he's just kind of shitty

[pliant ruin]

the loss of azafure was on the tail end of the crusade

which

lasted like,,,, 50 years? i don't remember. something like that

[split mortar]

Loss of azafure was like

In the last 10% of the hundred year war

[mighty zenith]

didnt the crusade last like 80 years

[pliant ruin]

i forgor

[split mortar]

Thought crusade was around 100

[pliant ruin]

anyways yharim very likely planned to do genocide from the beggining and simply started with the evil gods as a propaganda method

[mighty zenith]

it started with yharim in his early 30s or so

and ended around in his mid 120s?

[pliant ruin]

if you start off with the unquestionably bad evil stinky gods who nobody likes you'll get a great reputation on the eyes of people allowing you to more easily convince htem to kill the gods who are actually innocent

[mighty zenith]

we know its only been under a decade at least thanks to illmeris

[strange stump]

human...

[keen dock]

Yeah but I think him going after the elementals was a really bad thing considering they just were born into existence and besides the brimstone elemental who I think was really just pissed about the pollution of the world they were mostly good for the world

[pliant ruin]

i think you're missing the point here

the entire crusade is a really bad thing

[mighty zenith]

yeah gods

aren't all evil

[split mortar]

It’s stated by the bestiary they all want to spread their domains

Still no one else would know that so he condemned them on the basis of one red naked one

[mighty zenith]

the whole point of it is taking lives based on something that has happened centuries ago, regardless of what has happened afterwards

yharim sees the deaths of dragons as the ultimate sin based on... really nothing

[pliant ruin]

yharim didn't "fall from grace" per say
he always (and still is) a really shitty person; in his eyes he "fell from grace" because he grew weak and complacent to continue his quest of killing all gods, which to him is a heroic journey to avenge dragonkind, but in reality is just him being blindly ignorant to his own crimes and too far deep into his own narrative to realize Genocide is Bad, actually

[mighty zenith]

based on the fact he saved a dragon

he hates gods and loves dragons because he met a dragon (who, mind you, is just as fucked up as him)

[spring helm]

personally i think he knows that genocide is bad
he just believes that it is a lesser evil to the gods' continued existence

[keen dock]

Yeah no there’s good ones for sure, things like the hallow seem to be the most direct source we see, the other big example were those lost in the incineration of the desert or what was once the sea kingdom

[mighty zenith]

"ends justify the means" basically yeah

i think he's fully deluded himself into thinking the crusade is good

[pliant ruin]

yeah basically

he's too far deep into his own narrative to realize the entire crusade was never justified to begin with

[hot valve]

In Yharim’s eyes, every god is complicit in the genocide of the dragons
This of course isn’t actually true, but Yharim doesn’t see it that way

[mighty zenith]

he knows killing is bad but in his eyes its the only way he can finish the crusade

[split mortar]

Yharm sucks and always sucked

[mighty zenith]

but i also like the idea of him eventually seeing gods as nothing more than monsters, like the ones he slaughtered en-masse during blood moons

[pliant ruin]

realistically, if he realized his mistakes, his entire life would have been spent on a pointless, heinous act and his last few years of his life would be miserable as he copes with all the horrible things he's done to fullfil an equally horrible mission, rather than doing horrible things for the sake of the greater good

[mighty zenith]

it's become mundane to him

[pliant ruin]

so instead he's just

[keen dock]

I’m not defending yharim and his actions, I just like that his decent into depravity can make sense given the world around him, it’s believable characterization

[pliant ruin]

probably shielding himself from that by actively subconsciously denying any possible hopes of the crusade being a bad thing

[pliant ruin]

Oh don't worry i'm not saying that

It's just

alot of people mischaracterize him as

a "fallen hero"

[hot valve]

I also think Yharim deciding that in response to all the dragons dying, he has the right to commit genocide in retaliation is quite horrible

[pliant ruin]

when he's more so deluded himself into thinking he's a fallen hero

[keen dock]

He is NOT noble nor a hero

But I do think he could’ve been a hero had he used his brain to think instead of mindlessly killing gods

[tidal tulip]

ya'll ever wonder yharon's role in this? for example, sharing the tale of zeratros despite no knowledge of whether is was a consensual consumption of the auric soul or not.

[pliant ruin]

he has alot of typically heroic virtues

[hot valve]

I think Yharon wanting all the God’s dead is much more ‘sympathetic’ since Yharon’s race is the actual affected party
But not every God was created at the result of a good dragon being hunted down- far from it

[mighty zenith]

Yharon was very much an accomplice in the entire thing

[deft vessel]

He manipulated Yharim

[hot valve]

I think a large portion of Yharim’s motivation was because of Yharon’s stories

[pliant ruin]

i don't think yharon manipulated yharim

[mighty zenith]

the very fact he stays with yharim until his own death shows that Yharon was fully supportive of all the death

[pliant ruin]

he just told him his truth

which is

[spring helm]

considering how great his impact on the world is, Yharim fits into the definition of a hero that I have in my head

in which a hero is one who is remembered for doing a great dead

[keen dock]

Besides the massacre of the dragons wasn’t the only way auric souls were obtained cause iirc some dragons did consent (I think either Silva or the gods of the old sea kingdom)

[mighty zenith]

they're two sides of the same rat bastard

[deft vessel]

Well misguided

[pliant ruin]

a truth coming from someone whos had to see his entire species die and likely be continously hunted down

yharon is kind of like

insane atp probably

[spring helm]

auric soul of rats

[split mortar]

And also probably experience death multiple times

[keen dock]

I’d say the one pure act that yharim did was refusing yharons soul since he didn’t even know the history he just saw it as wrong and stuck to it in even the face of a death sentence

[pliant ruin]

yknow

[split mortar]

Not even that

Yharon dies and pushes themselves so hard their soul loses a few fragments just to save yharim

[pliant ruin]

yharon could be a really really interesting character if explored well

[split mortar]

^

[hot valve]

1. There are bad or evil dragons, which their deaths were warranted- their auric soul was just a boon for their death
2. Some dragons willingly gave their souls, not every dragon was hunted down

Because of this the relentless genocide of gods is completely unjustifiable

[split mortar]

I hope we get a lot of info on yharon at some point

[pliant ruin]

like

[mighty zenith]

i really do hope we get more yharon in the future yeah

[pliant ruin]

yharon could be

really tragic if done well

i love villains who are completely unreedemable but you also cant help but feel bad for them because their evil-ness comes from a tragic background

[hot valve]

Yharon’s desire for all the gods to be dead is like completely understandable because of what happened

[pliant ruin]

like

if done right you could genuinely make yharon be a character you feel bad for

it seems like he was like

an actual good guy in the past

[mighty zenith]

i love dio

[hot valve]

I’d be pretty damn pissed too if most of my entire race was slaughtered for their souls

[mighty zenith]

like
dio is a piece of shit asshole

but i dont really blame him

(in part 1)

[split mortar]

And found that out after just saving the world from a sentient extinction event

[keen dock]

I kinda feel for yharon i mean he is the only truly immortal (unless his soul is taken) given his abilities of rebirth meaning he’s had to watch his whole species die, and watch his friend and savior yharim fall to lows near equal to the gods yharon blames for the dragons being massacred

[pliant ruin]

watching a genuinely benevolent and kind soul slowly turn violent and depraved due to grief, loss and torment can be incredibly grueling, specially when you realize they're too far gone to be saved and the only way to prevent them from hurting others is taking them down

the only other character this could b done with imo rn is providence

but i feel like yharon has more potential for it

[split mortar]

We dunno much about yharon during crusade

But I’d bet that yharim never fell close to the gods in his eyes

[keen dock]

Like we don’t know all that yharon told him, maybe yharon did mention that some gave consent to their souls being taken, we will never know and I find that cool, unanswered questions give us a reason to think and delve deeper into the world

[keen dock]

Yeah but it is stated that yharon doesn’t even speak to him by the time we show up so it clearly isn’t how it used to be

[hot valve]

I have a feeling Yharim is probably aware that some dragons gave up their souls willingly in the same way that he knows that some gods are benevolent, but still views them as sinners

[pliant ruin]

isn't the opposite stated

that yharim is the only person yharon speaks to

[deft vessel]

I mean Yharim belives the dragons blindly so I think Yhe would start douting his action then

[hot valve]

Pretty sure Yharon was chillin on the aerie with Yharim

[tidal tulip]

too bad draedon couldn't study yharon more

[hot valve]

Until he comes and attacks us (and dies)

[split mortar]

Depending on how attunement works we may know his stance on everything yharim has done

[keen dock]

Okay hold up I’m gonna check a thing

[pliant ruin]

yharon in old lore (and atm in new lore too) feels lik

just an extension of yharim

rather than his own character

and i do think if remedied

[hot valve]

I get what you mean

[pliant ruin]

he could be just as well written as yharim

[hot valve]

With the way yharon is represented it’s not shocking that I thought the dragon was named after the guy rather than vice versa lmao

[split mortar]

If anything yharim should be more of an extension of yharon

But neither should be extensions of the other

I hope we get a decent amount of yhar lore

[untold oracle]

Yharlar

[tidal tulip]

maybe in sso we'll get more yharon lore but idk

[deft vessel]

I feel like they are more of a duo character

[split mortar]

Would be nice if yharon and yharim were mentioned when shit happens not just yharim

[deft vessel]

Yea

Imo the part with the most condenced potential is the Fovos aftermath

[split mortar]

I feel like the whole 700 years between yharim and yharon meeting and the fovos shit is

[keen dock]

Yeah yharons lore items says he bade farewell to yharim so I sorta take that to mean he doesn’t side with yharim, yet I do think he holds some loyalty given that yharim spared him all those years ago, the one pure act of yharim is what keeps yharon neutral and makes him warn yharim as implied by roar of the jungle dragon

[pliant ruin]

biding farewell is because yharon's dead

not because he left yharim's side

[split mortar]

I think that refers to the fact yharons dead and will rebirth once yharim dies of age or us

[keen dock]

Perhaps that yeah

[pliant ruin]

yharon and yharim's bond is strong enough that yharon charged in to fight hte terrarian in a attempt to stop them from fighting yharim, knowing he'd likely die

[keen dock]

I think yharon is blinded by the loss of the dragons, and yharim simply is driven on by yharon until he himself quickly falls into doing horrible deeds of his own

[pliant ruin]

this is shown through ROTJD lyrics, which are canon to new lore

[keen dock]

Okay yeah true

Guess I’m off on that point

[pliant ruin]

I think[

[split mortar]

Just that yharim being called master is a tad weird but that’s it

[pliant ruin]

Yharon has experienced so much loss of his loved ones

[keen dock]

I still think the most irredeemable character is draedon tho followed quickly by yharim

[pliant ruin]

That even if Yharim fighting the Terrarian being (theoretically) for the sake of the crusade

he dosen't want yharim to die

[hot valve]

I just take master as yharim being the superior in the army

[pliant ruin]

Like

he's willing to go against the crusade just bc he dosen't want to lose the only person he can call a friend atp

[split mortar]

Yeah you can’t redeem draedon

He has no morals and thus can’t understand it

[dusk laurel]

Draedon is not nearly as bad as Yharim

He's morally grey

[pliant ruin]

Draedon isn't good

or bad

[split mortar]

Can’t understand what’s wrong or needs redeeming

[pliant ruin]

He has like

literally no morals

[hot valve]

To be honest I think draedon being amoral and enslaving a queen bee is much less bad than Yharim’s WORLDWIDE genocide

[pliant ruin]

like he quite literally dosen't have a moral compass

[split mortar]

Litteraly no concept of morals

[pliant ruin]

ill be fr what draedon did to the bees isn't as bad as some stuff done irl

[hot valve]

Like technically speaking Yharim is evil and Draedon lacks the capability for evil

[split mortar]

Not just bees

But that’s thanks to yharim I’m pretty sure

[pliant ruin]

yeah plague being released was

yharim's fault

the creation of pbg was draedon

but plague being released on the wild was bc yharim threw a tantrum

[split mortar]

Like judging a ants ability to be evil compared to a humans

[hot valve]

Yep

we cannot apply human morality to animals that aren’t human

[ruby heart]

He problably didnt

Spite maxxing + propaganda

[dusk laurel]

Rare Triangle lore discussion appearance

[keen dock]

I guess yeah, I just don’t like to view things as black and white as evil or good

[hot valve]

The same applies for robots

[ruby heart]

I mean

Yharon isnt black or white

[keen dock]

I don’t want that question answered, the speculation is fun

[ruby heart]

His hate has reasons, but he passed a point

• he is sort of doing a dark souls gwyn

[deft vessel]

Yhapaganda

[ruby heart]

And refusing to see his era is gone

[keen dock]

Yessss

[tall delta]

dragon pilled

[ruby heart]

Fucking up the entire world to maintain it

[keen dock]

Perfect description

[ruby heart]

Yharim and yharon placed the world in a stalemate

It dont progress

Sort of in a rotting state

Refusing to let the cadaver of the dragon era go

[deft vessel]

Luckily there is a legend who can salavage mankind

[split mortar]

Draedon advanced the worlds tech by atleast 1 century I’m pretty sure

[ruby heart]

Draedon is not yharim

[ruby heart]

• he dont really share his tech

If i see this image one more time

[deft vessel]

Wreches image

Gets in the way of SBC lyrics

[split mortar]

Also let’s legend who can salvage mankind be true tbh

[split mortar]

It explains it

[wheat walrus]

draedons would create a big gun that blows up the multiverses...

[split mortar]

What’s wrong with the image ?

[pliant ruin]

i cant tell if thats sarcastic or not

[tall delta]

It being spammed i think

[wheat walrus]

it's actually everywhere

[dusk laurel]

I see it everyday

[ruby heart]

You spamming it

[split mortar]

Ok fair

[hot valve]

Make a new image

[split mortar]

I don’t think I send it every day

[tall delta]

the lore the loreee..

[pliant ruin]

it dosent need to be sent at every slightest mention of the terrarian

[ruby heart]

Every single time i open spoiler talk or here i see it

[wheat walrus]

even these few days where I'm not too particularly focused on cal community stuff as I was a few days before I see this image everyday

[keen dock]

I’d say one of the worst things draedon did besides the bees was the sulphurus sea considering he knows what he’s done to it, even knows he can fix it, yet chooses not to

[pliant ruin]

he must see

the mutations caused by trhe waste

the rot

[split mortar]

Ok yeah uh
Prob sending it too much

[ruby heart]

That is

Half crags fault too

[pliant ruin]

no i mean the nuclear waste specifically

[ruby heart]

I think the only boss you kill that is actually innocent

[pliant ruin]

the sulphuric part is also azafure yah

[ruby heart]

Is aquatic scourge

[pliant ruin]

queen bee too

[ruby heart]

True

[wheat walrus]

well the crags brought shitty pollution, but I think radiation is what would cause mutations yknow, idk tho

[ruby heart]

Well they are side bosses

[deft vessel]

They should make Draedon 2.0 that fixed Draedons calamities

[hot valve]

I mean what do you count as “innocent”

[ruby heart]

Tbh

Removing the radiation by this point

[wheat walrus]

what did desert scoog do...

[ruby heart]

Would fuck up the enviroment more

[deft vessel]

Eat you

[keen dock]

We don’t know if draedon was the one who started azurfare’s industrial age and the pollution so he might’ve cause it all who knows

[wheat walrus]

of course since currently, the environment has started adapting around it

[ruby heart]

The entire ecosystem there is now built around it

[pliant ruin]

u could theoretically argue that every "animal" boss is innocent bc theyre acting on instinct and arent actually evil or anything like that
but queen bee and aqua scoog are straight up provoked by the player

[ruby heart]

Invasive species

Disrupting the balance

[dusk laurel]

It started before he went out of hiding

[ruby heart]

[wheat walrus]

forgor

[ruby heart]

Well not every

Follies are a bane for enviroment

Chungus locusts

Old duke is super nefarious

[split mortar]

Isn’t it a native of the desert and sunken sea

Just that it now has to deal with desert 24/7v

[ruby heart]

Duke fishron is innocent tho

[keen dock]

Desert scourge lived there naturally and had to adapt to the conditions after his ocean was nuked with brimstone and fire

[hot valve]

Crabulon has been arrested reports say

[pliant ruin]

wouldnt call old duke a animal tbh since hes like actually intelligent
well technically he is one but i more so mean animal as in animalistic instincts and etc

[deft vessel]

We clearly really hate fish

[ruby heart]

It didnt lived in the desert tho

But ye

[ruby heart]

True

[split mortar]

Aren’t it semi aquatic not pure aquatic or am I going insane

[ruby heart]

Desert?

Yes its amphibian

[wheat walrus]

dessert...

[ruby heart]

Mudskipper type thing

[wheat walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/oreo-peanut-butter-pie-pie-dessert-food-gif-7853681273122623922

[ruby heart]

It lived on the shores

[hot valve]

Didn’t it used to come up to the desert layer occasionally in lore

Before the incineration

[ruby heart]

No

There was no desert layer

[keen dock]

The desert used to be an ocean so technically he’s still living where he always had just like the environment got completely messed up

[ruby heart]

There was the shores tho

[split mortar]

The surface was desert iirc

[ruby heart]

And it lived there

[hot valve]

the top of the desert was deser

[ruby heart]

Ye, the shores

[split mortar]

Sea not ocean

[keen dock]

Well stil water that it lived in

[wheat walrus]

Ilmeran Sea layering and stuff to me doesn't exist until we get SSO gangggggggggggggg

[wheat walrus]

blows you up

[deft vessel]

Rude

[split mortar]

Fack yu

[fading sun]

Ngl I was expecting men kissing

[dusk laurel]

[cosmic zenith]

(Triangle, keep in mind Ilmeran Sea was always underground)

[ruby heart]

[wheat walrus]

I get the whole powerscaling purpose of saying "sea, not ocean", because seas are usually smaller than oceans, but they also kinda overlap in many cases

[ruby heart]

But i dont think DS lived on desert always..

Shores creature

Its atleast what i have been going with for the design

[cosmic zenith]

So the surface was supposedly similar to a Desert
The Shores were underground, but a lot higher up
And I agree, DS was from the Shores area, generally

[wheat walrus]

lore so complex not even the devs truly comprehend it

[cosmic zenith]

Going up and down a bit

[ruby heart]

He could be on surface but needed a lot of moisture

[keen dock]

Why call him an invasive species then when it was really an invasive force that ruined his home

[deft vessel]

As it should be

[ruby heart]

True

But he is not placed well on the new enviroment..

[pliant ruin]

i actually made a little thinb before

[ruby heart]

He dont fit on desert neither on sunken sea

Sad story

[pliant ruin]

that explains that despite him being significantly larger than dune splicers