lore-discussion

[pliant ruin]

someone who probably would actively avoid violence if possible

why would she want to hurt people when the entire reason shes Sad is because of how many people she's hurt in the past

[scenic olive]

should i lock calamitas up in pyrogen

[mighty zenith]

put depressed woman in oven

[pliant ruin]

father and daughter activities

[untold oracle]

Alternate universe where permafrost sealed cal

[mighty zenith]

calamiswap

[pliant ruin]

yharim swaps with draedon... xeroc swaps with noxus...... old duke stays the same because hes old

[untold oracle]

Shitty calamity aus where they just create calamitas fight and call it a day

[scenic olive]

Extravagant Mage Permafrost

[mighty zenith]

old duke swaps with yharon

[pliant ruin]

no he stays the same

he's old

[scenic olive]

Young duke

[mighty zenith]

theyre both old...

[scenic olive]

wait thats just regular duke

[pliant ruin]

no old duke is old

its in his name

he stays the same because hes old

[scenic olive]

what if we used the dragon balls

to turn old duke young again

[pliant ruin]

shenron would die

cant do that

hes old

[scenic olive]

Prime Duke Fishron

[mighty zenith]

dragon king fishcollo

[faint plank]

😨 _ _

[scenic olive]

who would replace Yharim in Calamiswap

Xeroc?

[untold oracle]

The terrarian

[scenic olive]

[faint plank]

scal

[untold oracle]

In the game you play as Yharim

[scenic olive]

so if im Yharim

can i end myself and complete the game

[untold oracle]

No you gotta kill the terrarian

[scenic olive]

what if i just want them to carry on the crusade

then trained them

[untold oracle]

You know what they say… the Yharim’s lore is up to you!

[spring helm]

i just had this headcanon that her magic changes her personality when used, so she becomes more sadistic in the heat of battle

[untold oracle]

It has a toll on her psyche

Ig that could work

And then she just really regrets it afterwards

[spring helm]

something like this

[hushed geyser]

[untold oracle]

Alright time to fight duke

[amber cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/wombat-cute-smelly-boy-gif-25537705

[dusk laurel]

Live footage of an ancient pigron

[eager bluff]

omnicore gif

[hollow mist]

Are we any different than yharim? The terrarian just kinda kills everything in their way because ???

[spring helm]

up to you

[devout grotto]

Yeah

[gray veldt]

the terrarian, from what I understand, is just a blank slate for whatever the player wants, wheather you want to kill everyone or not

[devout grotto]

I like flexible protags tbh

[devout grotto]

[spring helm]

like less than half the bosses are actually mandatory to beat

[devout grotto]

The other protag I remember that's like this is

Gordon Freeman

[split mortar]

Only 8 out of like

50

[gray veldt]

exactly

[devout grotto]

Yeah sure he has his own lore and stuff but he doesn't really have that much of a personality

[hollow mist]

So me going on a murderous rampage because yharim is a quiter is equally cannon

neat

[split mortar]

Yea

[wheat walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/god-of-creation-ominigod-vegeta-vegeta-ominigod-goku-gif-23105951

[split mortar]

Who isn’t morally gay

-# what does morally gay mean

[devout grotto]

Late reply since I was at work when this was being discussed but

May I introduce you to something called "canon divergence?"

Like

You don't need to be 1:1 to canon, I literally plan to diverge from canon in certain moments for my story

Alternate universes are also a thing

[strange stump]

huh ive never heard of that term

_ _

probably because i dont write fan fiction, but whatever

[humble fog]

it’s like morally gray but gayer

[mighty zenith]

so like you

[devout grotto]

Eh, it's not a writing fanfic-specific thing

It can also be fanart stuff

[split mortar]

Yeah like what throudon does

[devout grotto]

Although as for everything else, I'll try being as canon compliant as I can

[devout grotto]

👀❓

[spring helm]

Canon goes to hell when a cool idea comes to mind

[devout grotto]

Show stuff

[devout grotto]

SO TRUE

‼️

[split mortar]

Throudon is an artist
They like to have their own interpretations of calamity when making fanart iirc

[devout grotto]

Ooooh

[split mortar]

I’ll get their deus stuff

[devout grotto]

[strange stump]

throudon's fucking great

cool guy as well

[proven rivet]

Their Zeratros interpretation is really really good

[eager bluff]

krill deus take tbh

[devout grotto]

Idc if my Crimson Rage/Corruption Adrenaline thing doesn't make sense, I will make it make sense in my story

[split mortar]

Their deus art

[devout grotto]

[split mortar]

Might be unfinished for the infected one? Idk fully

[devout grotto]

I love the designs sm

[strange stump]

but yeah
when it comes to canon in like
fanfiction

[random mulch]

putting your own spin on things is fun

[strange stump]

really nobody will complain if you do things differently

its your work, after all

[split mortar]

They interpret deus as a god
(They think gods in cal should be less well defined so no auric soul munching I think?)

[eager bluff]

this is krill deus

[split mortar]

Yea

[random mulch]

DoG moment

[split mortar]

Fav take of dog I have seen

Even compared to official

[brave dew]

Bro please you gotta add the purple glow to the head instead of the blue pleaaase bro

It'll look soo cool

[eager bluff]

throudon snake dog tbqh

[split mortar]

Don’t think I have seen that

[random mulch]

throudon wanted it to look alien but i found it kinda bland

it's kinda just a literal big purple snake mostly

[split mortar]

Oh ok

[random mulch]

brb gonna get it so you can form your own conclusion

[split mortar]

Ok

[brave dew]

This looks like ravager but for dog

[split mortar]

Thanks

[eager bluff]

theres also the old dog with the fucked up face and mouth throu made

[random mulch]

personally not my favorite

[brave dew]

Some sort of reincarnated mindless dog

[eager bluff]

idk how to describe it

[split mortar]

Also what kind of deus but the primordial light god is this whar

[brave dew]

Who did this btw ?

[random mulch]

throudon

[eager bluff]

supernova deus

[random mulch]

just feels a bit too "snake" to me

[brave dew]

Yeah

[split mortar]

Ohhh yeah that

Yeah prefer your one orios but this is also pretty good

Idk if it’s fitting for dog though

[brave dew]

I mean dog IS some sort of serpent but i mean he wouldnt look like that

Clearly not fitting

Doesnt mean it's bad tho

[split mortar]

Yea

[random mulch]

i think "serpent" is just used cause the species doesnt have a name

[eager bluff]

serpent is worm boss

[random mulch]

big long thing so the term serpent fits

[split mortar]

If dog is a species and not a flesh construct thing made by noxus

[brave dew]

Also does this have a with armor phase or not ?

[random mulch]

no

[untold oracle]

Haihai what do we talk about

[brave dew]

Dog artworks

[devout grotto]

[untold oracle]

The fishe

[split mortar]

Art stuff, dog and how taking your own spin on things is fun

[devout grotto]

Just make sure to state that it's your own interpretation

[split mortar]

Ya

[random mulch]

when i posted my DoG on the dreaded orange place i commented clearly that it's just a design i made for fun

[split mortar]

Oh yeah you did that

[brave dew]

Melon gun can you just send that terrarian lore is up to you meme

I wanna download it

Someone truly made a "The terrarians lore is up to you" moment

[devout grotto]

I cannot be the Terrarian 😭‼️

[split mortar]

You HATE DEMON

[devout grotto]

[devout grotto]

YES

Again, I like me some flexible protagonists sometimes

[split mortar]

You’re Strong)…

[devout grotto]

Oh yeah I wanna see y'all's Terrarian's inspos 👀 (if applicable)

Here's what I have planned so far

Lemme get the template in a bit

[split mortar]

Ima be real

I don’t have an inspiration cause I just thought “wouldn’t it be cool if scal and exos caused permanent harm” and now it’s got a bunch more ideas to it

[devout grotto]

Valid

[warm gull]

tinkus

[brave dew]

Wdym permanent harm

[split mortar]

Scal burns off one of their arms

Artemis shoots right through their heart

[brave dew]

The terrarian's heart ?

[split mortar]

Yes

[brave dew]

Poor guy...

How can braethh terrarian wn hert pirced

[random mulch]

bonebag was inspired by the skeleton merchant

[split mortar]

Draedons heart accessory comes in clutch

[random mulch]

cause apparently skeletons can escape the dungeon and can still be smart enough to do transactions

[brave dew]

Ohhh

What a comeback

[split mortar]

Scal gives them the calamity (the accessory) which acts as a replacement for their arm

But it ignites whatever they focus on (including accidents) and isn’t as physically strong so not the best replacement but works

[devout grotto]

Oooo, nice

[brave dew]

What if the player nohits scal and exos...

[split mortar]

I don’t

[split mortar]

And it’s not meant to be a replacement for thet base line blank sheet

It’s mine

And I think they cool ideas

[deft vessel]

Yheren was inspired by her me out… Yharim

[split mortar]

[faint plank]

yhorm

[brave dew]

FU

CK

HOW DO I

[brave dew]

HERE

strong...

[spring helm]

the strongest...

[split mortar]

Mark

From

The

Hit

Indie

Game

Gay

Corn

3321

[brave dew]

wait no

[split mortar]

YOU

                       .

[faint plank]

pay gorn

[split mortar]

I will not pay gorn
Neither will I play it

[devout grotto]

I had a random idea pop in my head while taking a bath

I'm making something like the Happiness buff potion from AlchemistNPC in my story

[faint plank]

drugs

[devout grotto]

Real

[split mortar]

That’s called antidepressants I think

[faint plank]

LMAO

[devout grotto]

Ah but it has something to do with the evil biome arc of my story ajsgsjdh

[spring helm]

man...

anyway here you go
i didnt fill it out all the way because i dont think about what inspires my writing too much. very spur of the moment kind of thing

[devout grotto]

Oh yeah I usually can't fill that out fully either

[faint plank]

not the cartel

i hate

[devout grotto]

PLS

[brave dew]

FUCK

[split mortar]

You HATE

Ah so scal whenever she uses magic

[faint plank]

there you go

[faint plank]

her power comes from hate o-O

[devout grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-moon-lord-josh-hutcherson-whistle-gif-11278917756883322479

[split mortar]

It comes from the power of the feisty lesbian

[faint plank]

-# what

[split mortar]

Brimstone elemental being tied to her power somehow

[faint plank]

OH

i didnt know u were refering to brimmy xd

[devout grotto]

Same

[split mortar]

Not versed enough in lore smh my head smh

[faint plank]

[split mortar]

You said you would go sleep

Go sleep

Or I throw bricks at you in your dreams

[faint plank]

now i dont want to
sigmas break the rules

[split mortar]

Sending bricks at your location rn

[spring helm]

hold up, this wyrm is actually freaking big now that i see it clearly

[split mortar]

Whar

Why so long

[serene tundra]

How exactly did Yharim get his powers? Is he a god in common calamity meaning?

[random mulch]

yharim is attuned to yharon which grants him some benefits, but other than that it's mostly his own strength and his armor that makes him even stronger

also no, he's not a god

[split mortar]

Yharim is attuned to yharon meaning he can touch normal auric and recently had a exo tech boosted auric armour made by draedon

Other then that he normal

[serene tundra]

Oh, right

[split mortar]

Yharim would kill himself if he was a god

[serene tundra]

How didn't I think bout it

[serene tundra]

Yeah

Like

I mean

[spring helm]

i cant get a good picture of Primordial Wyrm because it keeps going invisible but it's not that much bigger than the regular Eidolon Wyrm

[serene tundra]

There was something about him not accepting like becoming a god?

And he got hunted for that

Or am I tripping?

[split mortar]

Yeah he rejected becoming god king

Got thrown in lava for it

[serene tundra]

Yep

[untold oracle]

Does it also throw you around like awful amount

[spring helm]

yeah

[serene tundra]

Im not mistaken lol

[untold oracle]

Why does it do that???

[spring helm]

i'm struggling to hit it

[spring helm]

angy

[serene tundra]

Well, I did read all the ingame lore items but full picture is still unclear for me

I mean some details

[untold oracle]

In my playthrough I just bruteforced the enraged one

You can fight it in the deep abyss for a ”fairer” fight

Since it doesn’t enrage there iirc

[split mortar]

Lore items are from yharim

So almost any other source is better then them lol

[spring helm]

this thing is so durable it's still at 6 million hp god damn

[serene tundra]

Yeah, I know that. But what are other sources, hm?

[split mortar]

Bestiary and draetalk are major sources

Bestiary (ones on cal enemies) are always true and unbiased

Draedon just has no reason to lie and is very knowledgable so he is very trustworthy as a source

They’re going to rewrite a bunch of vanilla entries in sso so vanilla will be correct and true and unbiased aswell eventually

[untold oracle]

Unless he’s performing a test on how gullible you are

[serene tundra]

Well, I kinda read bestiary

What about Draedon's origins?

[split mortar]

Robot

[serene tundra]

Yeah but like

Who created him

Ig not stated

[split mortar]

Saw guy dead with tech inside him when he turned on

Supposedly his creator but we dunno it’s left unclear

Some people think draedon is a mind transfer into a robot and had lost memories and morality during it

Well not unclear

But never stated to be absolutely true

[untold oracle]

It is a common theory that Draedon’s creator transferred their mind into the robot to keep researching forever. The reason why he doesn’t remember anything could either be that the transfer failed partially or that he did it on purpose so that no memories or morals get in the way of research

[serene tundra]

Oh, Daredon is kinda unethical so it makes sense?

Idk how it does

But probably

Oh and wulfrum creatures are related to Draedon, am I right perchance?

[split mortar]

No

They’re just robots made by some unspecified thing that just annoys yharims soldiers

Not lethal to them

Just annoying

[serene tundra]

Flies, huh?

[untold oracle]

Iirc it says on some of them, the drone maybe(?) that they can be deadly

[split mortar]

Oh maybe

[serene tundra]

Well, drone really annoys at the early stages of game

[split mortar]

Yea

[serene tundra]

Then they don't appear ig

[light linden]

The amplifiers were made to make other models deadly iirc

[split mortar]

They get rarer the later in the game you are iirc

So I guess as game progresses either the local amount starts having such few numbers they aren’t as common or the local wild life is killing them a lot more

[spring helm]

pain in my ass though

[serene tundra]

I literally didn't meet em

[spring helm]

they stop showing up when i finally need them

[serene tundra]

In the whole playtrough

After I've defeated brain

[untold oracle]

Best part is that the obscure wulfrum drone spawns everything except rovers

[gilded edge]

Can someone explain to me what the deal is with Yharim? It sounds like when reading the lore he is a good guy who sought out to kill the Gods who are evil? He has the last dragon on his side which I thought the dragons were good beings. What is the player in this case?

[summer rover]

Yharim kills all gods, good, evil or neutral, and slaughters their worshipers. He ain't really a good guy

[serene tundra]

Well, dragons are good beings

I mean

[dusk laurel]

Not all

[serene tundra]

Yharim isn't good and isn't bad

He just wants revenge

[gilded edge]

What’s the player in that case?

What’s the purpose of their actions

[serene tundra]

Player is just a machine

That erases

Everything on their way

[split mortar]

For the player lore

[serene tundra]

Lol

[devout grotto]

Wulfrum machine lore is so interesting tbh

[serene tundra]

Real, Terrarian lore is personal to everyone

[devout grotto]

I want more rebel side stories...

[gilded edge]

I see

Thanks for the help

[split mortar]

Yharim is a person who believes what he says and believes he is correct and is very charismatic

Despite the fact what he wants is a complete world wide genocide on multiple groups of people (gods and their worshippers or anyone he believes to be them) and the entire hallowed is the growing god essence of good gods

He is also not above manipulating children to be soldiers

[serene tundra]

He's overconfident kinda

[gilded edge]

Why does Yharon side with him in that case?

[serene tundra]

Yharon is his pet

Basically

[split mortar]

Yharon made him that bad lol

[split mortar]

Best friend

[serene tundra]

I mean

[light linden]

desperation at first, loyalty later

[serene tundra]

Its unclear

[split mortar]

No that’s dog, yharon and yharim are attuned so I think they agree

[serene tundra]

Because he calls him a "master" in roar of jungle dragon

[split mortar]

That was made in old lore

And even then that wasn’t the case iirc

[serene tundra]

Oh, well. I guess I'm late

Wait, is there NEW LORE?!

[split mortar]

New lore is what’s in game (mostly, some stuff hasn’t been changed)

[serene tundra]

Oh

[split mortar]

In old lore providence was the creation of a war between angels and demons

And then that was never explored again

[serene tundra]

Lore can be rewritten many times, lol

I guess because some thing may not make sense

[split mortar]

It was a complete rewrite, old lore had a habit of changing a lot iirc and the writers for the new lore don’t want that to be as prominent

[serene tundra]

Hmpf. No idea if it's a good or a bad idea. Well, I am an inquisitive mind so I guess it's better

[split mortar]

Personally old lore is worse then the current one

[mighty zenith]

old lore had a habit of being very inconsistent because 90% of it was based on random messages from devs on discord

[serene tundra]

By the way, in my opinion vanilla lore kinda sucks. I mean, some parts are still good but uhh

[random mulch]

vanilla lore is basically an afterthought

[mighty zenith]

vanilla lore might as well not exist

[split mortar]

Vanilla lore is basically not existent except for its general vibes iirc

[mighty zenith]

its all over the place and really underbaked

[random mulch]

it's just kinda there for people who want it but it's not made to be serious

[split mortar]

Like cyborg was made by both mechanic and Steampunker somehow iirc

[serene tundra]

Haha, this reminds me of "Deepwoken" lore. Because it literally SUCKS it's based on around 30 ingame books and stuff devs said and THERE'S A LOT of stuff they said so yeah

[serene tundra]

Duo project xd

[snow mountain]

noita lore...

[split mortar]

Noita mentioned

Idk much about noita lore but I know the game is cryptic as fuck so it’s prob hyper complex aswell

[mighty zenith]

i just know noita as the game where you die

[snow mountain]

i mean vanilla is basically everything thrown together for the fun of it

[serene tundra]

Idk much abt noita overall, lol

[split mortar]

Touches one pink pixel

Turns into sheep

Dies and loses 7 hours of game

[serene tundra]

I just know it's related to word "Witch" ig

[split mortar]

Finnish word for witch

[mighty zenith]

the rogue of all likes

[snow mountain]

cal is kinda propped up by the lore, considering the mod is 50% filler

[split mortar]

Finds spell

Uses it

Spawns 4 supergiant black holes on top of yourself and instantly die

[split mortar]

Most people don’t care about the mods lore iirc

[snow mountain]

fair

tmodlets really like boss rushes ig

[split mortar]

Like every time I say a fun lore fact half of addon chat is just like “whar?!”

[random mulch]

the devs are working on it but it's gonna take a bit to get the SSO ready

[mighty zenith]

fun fact! every new person to start talking in lore discussion is absorbed into

[split mortar]

Tasty

[snow mountain]

it'll be an improvement sure

[serene tundra]

Btw I once played with 2 guys and after like 10th DoG kill I said "Don't you mind if I talk abt lore a bit?"
They stay silent. I then tell them some and they say
"Get outta here, nobody's interested"

[spring helm]

make Holy Collider big again

[random mulch]

the sunken sea itself is gonna be packed with content

[split mortar]

:/

[serene tundra]

Only chat I'm not ignored in, haha

[snow mountain]

but again its one part of an endless slog

[split mortar]

And they plan on reworking crags aswell

[random mulch]

it'll take a while to get everything done but "endless" is wrong

[split mortar]

And astral is likely

[random mulch]

they're gonna add the distortion eventually

[snow mountain]

development i mean

[random mulch]

ye it's gonna take a hot second but it'll be done eventually

devs are actively posting progress on some goobers

[snow mountain]

personally i would gut like 50% of the mod

but thats my approach and my approach alone

[split mortar]

There is a lot of boss bloat but they want to make it all better instead of removal

[random mulch]

problem is that there would be a group of people pissed off at the devs for that

[serene tundra]

Hm

I lost the line, what are you talking abt?

[snow mountain]

guh

[mighty zenith]

updates

[serene tundra]

Oh

[split mortar]

Updates and stuff I think

[random mulch]

a lot of calamity's problem stem from being too old, but there's not really a way to fix that without killing all of the momentum from the devs

[split mortar]

Items being removed and reworked that we know of in Sso

[devout grotto]

Tbh I like how Red acknowledged the fact that the lore is just his own headcanons

[random mulch]

so next best thing is making all of the content present engaging

[snow mountain]

remaking it wouldn't be viable, given what state AA is in for example

[serene tundra]

Oooh

[snow mountain]

i mean as long as post-ml has actual content aside from bosses sure

[devout grotto]

I don't really care too much about vanilla rn but I would love to cook something up with my worldbuilding one day for it

[snow mountain]

i personally think post-ml stuff isn't necessary

[devout grotto]

I already have Seisai's vanilla version being known for its racing culture in mind now

[split mortar]

Want ti know their plans for acid rain t3?

[random mulch]

distortion is gonna stretch most of post-moonlord, with a bit of crags at the beginning

[snow mountain]

i can see subworlds being the way to go

[random mulch]

distortion is a subworld

[snow mountain]

yup

i mean as long as its well-implemented into progression

[mighty zenith]

post-ml should get more stuff
but it should be stuff that isnt bosses

like thats the main issue with progression rn

[snow mountain]

its kinda why the mod has so much slop

[serene tundra]

Im just chilling underground post ml lol

Or building some stuff

[snow mountain]

not to mention its focus on combat rather than being a sandbox

[random mulch]

the finished version of calamity's probably gonna be fun but a bit of a mess

[snow mountain]

i mean vanilla has the same issue tbf

but cal worsens it significantly

[mighty zenith]

cal being more combat focused is fine tbh

[snow mountain]

thats kinda why i regard it as worse than quite a few other mods though

[mighty zenith]

just add more regular enemies so you can explore more

[serene tundra]

I know the guy who quit terraria after crafting zenith

[mighty zenith]

exploring is fun

[random mulch]

mods can be hard to compare

[serene tundra]

And then defeating DoG(with my help)

[random mulch]

they kinda occupy different "niches"

with things like thorium basically just being vanilla +

[snow mountain]

spirit mod my beloved

[mighty zenith]

:(

i miss spirit mod

[random mulch]

so it's not always that a mod is objectively worse, but it's that some mods suit people better than others

[snow mountain]

also i know this is in lore discussion but terrafirma is great too

[devout grotto]

[snow mountain]

anyway what does ml have to do with cal i forgot

[random mulch]

nothing except bosses and a lil bit of mining tbh

and acid rain i guess

[mighty zenith]

unless you mean lore

[split mortar]

Nuked the auric dragons And that lead to their downfall

Got locked into the moon for that

[mighty zenith]

cause uhh

this is lore disc

[devout grotto]

Honestly it's why I'd regard Cal as the most iconic mod rather than the best

[snow mountain]

i mean it makes sense

[random mulch]

oh wait read that wrong

am tired

[snow mountain]

but i find it more of a

[devout grotto]

There's definitely better ones in terms of quality

[snow mountain]

frankensteining of vanilla's 'lore'

[split mortar]

We will get a lot more once sso come out

[snow mountain]

with whatever cal has going for it

[devout grotto]

But Cal definitely feels like the face of Terraria modding if that majes sense

[devout grotto]

I NEED SSO

[random mulch]

i kinda see calamity as a "second vanilla"

you either play vanilla, calamity, or other mods

people make content addons for calamity as well

[serene tundra]

So real

[mighty zenith]

DoG is the face of modded tbh

[split mortar]

Calamity has rewritten vanilla bestiary entires and moonlords will explain
It’s power
Where it got its power
It’s motive
IIRC

[frozen zodiac]

honestly because of the higher difficulty and recommended prior experience with vanilla i see calamity sort of as a new game plus of some sort

[devout grotto]

Honestly the biggest surprise for me when I came back

[mighty zenith]

DoG might be the face of custom modded boss in general actually

[split mortar]

It’s entry will hold so much cause it’s a alien, no where else can it’s info be put

[mighty zenith]

like i cant think of many similarly iconic modded bosses

[devout grotto]

I guess that's the effect of moving from Fandom to wiki.gg

[split mortar]

Mutant is also iconic I think?

[serene tundra]

Btw, DoG is a giant snake, yes?

[mighty zenith]

yeah fair

giant space serpent

snake isnt very accurate

[serene tundra]

Like worms and serpents look uhh

Similar

[frozen zodiac]

what would ceaseless void's bestiary entry be if it wasnt left blank

[split mortar]

It’s a creature from the distortion and so holds no biological similiarity to anything on terraria

[random mulch]

DoG doesnt really fully resemble anything we have a good name for

[frozen zodiac]

i do get the idea its very on theme to leave it empty but im curious how the bestiary would attempt to describe it

[snow mountain]

i wish dog wasn't so serpentine tbh, its too comprehensible

[serene tundra]

Yeah, I know about it but umm just no idea why they are called "Serpents"

[devout grotto]

Saw someone complaining about the wiki message when entering the world and

Damn it's as if new or returning players don't exist

A toggle to turn it off would be nice tho

[split mortar]

Long body no limbs

[mighty zenith]

also its not obstructive??

why would you complain about it

[frozen zodiac]

there is?

im 100% sure there's a toggle for it

[serene tundra]

There is sense in it

[mighty zenith]

serpent is just the best way to describe it

[devout grotto]

Idk

There's a certain community I'd rather not mention the name of where I saw that complaint

[frozen zodiac]

if i was on my puter i could literally open calamity and go to the settings and show you where the remove wiki message toggle is

[mighty zenith]

why do i feel like its terramain

[devout grotto]

Highkey insufferable WuWa player who used to play Gensbin vibes

[mighty zenith]

oh thats worse

[devout grotto]

Nope

[serene tundra]

What.. like What's the point in complaining bout it??

[random mulch]

wuwa?

[snow mountain]

god bless the tmodloader server

[devout grotto]

Wuthering Waves

[serene tundra]

Even if you don't turn it off it disappears quick

[dusk laurel]

Behated TModcord

[snow mountain]

tmod is truly where we come to die

[mighty zenith]

powerbottom

[devout grotto]

I don't even know

Like I said

It's as if new or returning players don't exist

[frozen zodiac]

honestly with how buff he looks i would have thought otherwise

[split mortar]

lol

[mighty zenith]

braelor is a himbo

this is not up for debate

[devout grotto]

If that message didn't exist, there is a high chance I may use the fucking Fandom wiki because I didn't even know they switched hosts

The last time I cleared Cal was literally in 2020

[random mulch]

references page still needs to be updated with the new xeroc design

[frozen zodiac]

use the chrome extension that automatically filters out fandom pages

[devout grotto]

Oh true

[frozen zodiac]

my first thought my brain had was braelor redrawn as Kronk and i want to blame you for that mental image

[split mortar]

Pfft

[dusk laurel]

Release the maneater

[split mortar]

Possibly lore accurate btw

[devout grotto]

[dusk laurel]

Teal

[devout grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/genshin-genshin-impact-genshin-meme-slime-anemo-gif-26317825

[sudden ruin]

stop fearmongering twink death im scared

[dusk laurel]

What is there to fear

[split mortar]

It’s a genuine thing though

[sudden ruin]

that its real…

[dusk laurel]

I have bad news,,

[sudden ruin]

im not believing you guys

[devout grotto]

Anemo Slime real

[split mortar]

Wha

[dusk laurel]

I have witnessed a twink death

It's very real

[sudden ruin]

they must not be a real one

fake

[serene tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/good-evening-gif-sunset-alisa-gif-14173776426030055090

Those gifs are Swag

[mighty zenith]

i was a victim of twink death actually

[sudden ruin]

wtf

[dusk laurel]

See

It's real

[sudden ruin]

do twinks just stop existing after a certain age

this better not he true

[serene tundra]

I died

[serene tundra]

It is

Just accept it

[mighty zenith]

happened to me after quarantine

[sudden ruin]

not believing you guys

[serene tundra]

Believe us

[sudden ruin]

ill find the exception

[split mortar]

What happened first, stinking or twink death

[random mulch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smrySxCcDxU
completely unlore-ius but despite not fitting the exo mechs that much this is still a banger and i wanted to share it

[untold oracle]

Poor SG..,

[stark basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-moon-lord-josh-hutcherson-whistle-gif-11278917756883322479

[split mortar]

[faint plank]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-seal-seal-baikal-seal-gif-15566586137516032972

[split mortar]

Cook

[strange stump]

alright nerds

who here has tried to make a fictional language

[visual kiln]

me

[strange stump]

tell me

[visual kiln]

i wanted to make a language bc bored

however i stopped bc writing systems r hard

[split mortar]

Pfft

That’s certainly an activity to do

[brave dew]

i wanted to make a mod to balance mounts but i suck at programming and learning is boring so ill prolly give up

[split mortar]

Oh yeah had seen you talking a bit about that

[strange stump]

have unique grammatical rules and alphabet, and boom, you have the base of a language

[brave dew]

i lowkey think about enslaving spamton to do the mod for me

[strange stump]

i dont think its that hard

_ _

[visual kiln]

wdym

[strange stump]

as long as you arent rushing it

[visual kiln]

oh no that wasnt the issue

[split mortar]

They want to make a mod that makes mounts more balanced and more of a option iirc

[visual kiln]

the issue was that i didn't know what direction to take the writing system

[brave dew]

wanted to make them an offensive sidegrade to wings

[visual kiln]

other than not an alphabet

[brave dew]

with worse fliying stats

and just give them fly overall

just less of it

[strange stump]

i can help you if you want

[brave dew]

also wantned to increase to commitment for using a mount by like making wings unusable when not a mount

and of course making players choose between using mounts only or wings only

not both

[spring helm]

My ass is not JRR Tolkien, I could never write an entire new language

[split mortar]

Not with that attitude

[brave dew]

yeah watch your tone

[strange stump]

heres the fun thing, right?

i really like how Tolkien dealt with his world

as a writer

he comes off more so that he treats himself more as a historian

than

y'know

the author

and you can tell he himself got invested

or at least thats the way i think about it

i fucking adore that shit

mostly because i do it myself

[brave dew]

peak writing

[strange stump]

its so fucking awesome

i cant stop nerding out about it

[brave dew]

i love nerding about stuff

but im scared that people might get annoyed out of it

[split mortar]

Yeah people not listening sucks

[visual kiln]

if i ever start it again i'll hit u up then :3

[strange stump]

well i mean i can nerd about some stuff

only problem really is

its off topic for this channel

it'd be weird if i started talking about my own writing

and like

newgrounds stuff

[split mortar]

That’s happened here before

Cheese has talked about her writing stuff iirc and so has someone else

[strange stump]

no i just have a different place to do it

[split mortar]

Oh ok

[strange stump]

but if anyone wishes to geek out about their stuff

my dmssssssssssssssssssss

areeeeeee

_ _

nt open

ill need to send you a friend request

THEN my dms are open

[brave dew]

what if i add you and you accept but i actually wanna enslave you into programming for me

and use that perditus + kaleidoscope on you whipstacking style

[visual kiln]

space r u able to program

[strange stump]

_ _

yesn't

!

[brave dew]

wdym

[visual kiln]

programs u

[visual kiln]

why not both btw

u already cant use both

[strange stump]

you cant do that
im human!

[visual kiln]

o oki

sorr

[strange stump]

sentenced to 100 years of grinding in old school runescape

[visual kiln]

nuh uh

❌

disagree

[brave dew]

basically trying to make the player commit to use mounts OR wings

wanna make them sidegrades

and let people use mounts if they want something that can help you in fight in terms of survivability damage etc...

at the cost of less movement

[dusk laurel]

Very loreful

[brave dew]

sorry

guys let's just move to cat or smthin

[visual kiln]

why

[warm gull]

wtf

hiiiii

[brave dew]

to have mounts actually be usable

[visual kiln]

hiiiiiiiiiiii

[warm gull]

why is space user so based? is he stupid?

[brave dew]

and not make 3 mounts usable for like 2 bosses

[visual kiln]

they'll be less useable if u cant have wings too

[strange stump]

thanks

[visual kiln]

bc like

what if ur not fighting a boss

[brave dew]

hence making them have offensive or defensive stats or ability

[visual kiln]

u can make them more useable by making them work with wings imo

like

they compliment each other

being able to choose only one or the other makes for less variety in build options

instead of "which mount and wing r u using" its just "which mount/wing r u using"

[strange stump]

anyway, ill go on a walk

and thus

[split mortar]

While cool and all

It’s their first mod so like

Prob not capable of doing that rn

[visual kiln]

wtf walker

[strange stump]

YOUR SAVIOUR leaves once more

[dusk laurel]

Bye

[strange stump]

to recreate earth as it is in heaven....

FULL OF DEAD GUYS

[split mortar]

Bye moral arbiter

[visual kiln]

might be harder to make them mutually exclusive tbh

[brave dew]

i already thought about making mounts usable with wings

for now i just dont know which ill do

[warm gull]

I'm never not fighting a boss. I always keep an infinite use suspicious looking eye on my character and resummon it when it dies at all times in anticipation of this exact question. get thwarted

[visual kiln]

i understood this reference

[strange stump]

good

ILL RETURN IN THREE DAYS

[split mortar]

I think this is a bible reference

[dusk laurel]

Oh really?

Didn't know

[warm gull]

no it's obviously a jjk reference gojo from jjjk strong blindfold guy nah I'd win

[brave dew]

you CAN have wings it's just that you can't use them when not on a mount

when NOT ON A MOUNT

bruh

[visual kiln]

but like

then why not remove wings and have mounts be the flying option

[brave dew]

that's also what i was thinking about

but i just odnt know how to give mounts flightime lol

i really dont know much about programming rn so im very limited

the only thing ive made is some accessories that gives stats when on a mount

but that's not really the main thing i was looking for i was mainly focused on the damage defensive but less flight thing

but i cant do it and tmodcord sucks and keep yapping about spoon feeding or whatever htis shit is

[visual kiln]

they usually do that when ur asking for ppl to do things for u

generally they give u ways of doing things urself bc like thats how ppl learn to do things

[brave dew]

Yeah but most of the stuff i currently know was because of just me checking through other mods source code and trying to write the same thing

While also trying to fix errors

And understand them why theyre here

• the only thing i wanted to know was how to install il spy for tmod decompiling

Which couldve helped me for the mod and for having mounts be usable with wings

But then i just realized cal source code existed and just checked on it

[visual kiln]

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/

wtf

why cant i link codeacademy

also

https://github.com/icsharpcode/ILSpy/releases

here's ilspy

[split mortar]

How lethal would chugging a bottle full of shimmer be

[rotund shore]

worst case scenario it shimmers your internal organs out of your body

[spring helm]

nah, I'd drink

[gritty kraken]

You turn into a ghost that stuck between this world and the other

[split mortar]

Alt idea

Fountain of youths your organs to the point that you get your fathers internal organs and mothers internal organs

[rotund shore]

horrifying

[split mortar]

lol

[spring helm]

or maybe your gastrointestinal track just floats out of your body since you phase through matter after falling into shimmer

[dusk laurel]

My idea was for the shimmer to rearrange your organs so that they'd swap places, but your skins remains the same

Imagine having your brain split between your 2 feet

[spring helm]

wouldnt you just instantly die?

i dont think your brain can support the weight of a body

[light linden]

Hey is it true that Braelor literally ignored the auric rejection of Yharim's armor?

[sinful adder]

Not ignored exactly, but was strong enough to tank it

[light linden]

His armor must be extremely strong then

[sinful adder]

He's blessed by Silva

[spring helm]

strong enough that Draedon copied how it was made to make the armour of the Exo Mechs

quite literally a
"Draedon was influenced by this"
moment

[spring helm]

how long is this wyrm guys

[robust osprey]

lenght: yes

[tropic oak]

who up devouring they god rn

[warm gull]

hi guys

what dragon do you think eidolom wyrms came from

[supple thunder]

dragon of jared sr

[split mortar]

I don’t think we know of the dragon

But as a headcanon I would think fear? No particular reason other then they be the creatures from the deep water so they push thalassophobia a bit more idfk

[spring helm]

they werent orignially from the abyss i think

Relatives of the auric dragons, they adapted to hide away in a forgotten corner of the world to survive the great purges. And yet even without auric souls, the power of eidolon wyrms rivals many of their brethren who possessed them.

[split mortar]

I know

Eat sand

[spring helm]

[warm gull]

yeah headcanon was the premise I was going for

[split mortar]

Name checks out

[warm gull]

I think that dragon of death could also work tbh

we don't know what death's offshoots are

they could also be life offshoots

but we don't know what their new sprite will be either so

[pliant ruin]

zeratros clearly

[warm gull]

that would

actually make sense

[dusk laurel]

A lot of the draconic offshoots are long guys now that I think about it, OD [and presumably the other ancient fishrons], the wyrms and wyverns

[supple thunder]

convergent evolution towards worm boss

[spring helm]

It’s like carcinization irl, but worms in Calamity

Honestly with how Primordial Wyrm hates Xeroc, I’m still leaning on Zeratros being their ancestor

[dusk laurel]

Yeah i can see it

I wonder how much the PW redesign will reflect this

[light linden]

That was his axe iirc

[spring helm]

Oh right

Is his armour just Silva Armour then

Did Braelor tank the auric rejection while wearing post-DoG gear

[light linden]

iirc it wasn't Silva armor

Unless he just likes wearing summoner armor while wielding an axe

[untold oracle]

I think it’s some quirky special armour

[spring helm]

It’s gonna be reworked to melee in the future

I think

[trim edge]

it was an elemental axe

[light linden]

Wouldn't that burn your hand to all hell?

[trim edge]

if the terrarian can use it why can't he

[light linden]

The Terrarian doesn't hold it

[trim edge]

the item??? that summons the minions???

[light linden]

That's just a tool used to summon it

I doubt it could even cut paper

[brave dew]

I dont need spy anymore but i'll take that c # guide thx

Cal source code should be enough

[trim edge]

what if braelor was strong enough to use it as an axe

[light linden]

Could prolly still bludgeon someone with it though

Also we know what braelor's axe is

It was made by Silva

[trim edge]

enhanced version of elemental axe

[light linden]

It's an enhanced feller of evergreens iirc

[scenic olive]

sir Jared Eidolon Wyrm the Fifth

[untold oracle]

The First*

[light linden]

What's the lore for the world evil metals?

[untold oracle]

I think it’s just concentrated essence or metals that were infected

[split mortar]

^

[serene tundra]

I guess they are just here??

Based on things such as umm...
For example:
Crimson is kinda a big organism and corruption is just devouring world iirc so the crimson could absorb infected ores and fill them with flesh or whatever it is and corruption just takes root in the ores like with other blocks

[split mortar]

That’s vanilla I think

In calamity the crimson,corruption and hallowed are the mixed god essences of gods slain by yharim before the devourer of gods joined

Crimson violent and greedy gods I think
Hallowed is good

Corruption I forgot

[serene tundra]

Yeah, I know about that. But still the thing abt organism and thing that devours can take a place here since essence could generate it

[light linden]

Corruption was from ruthless gods

[split mortar]

Thanks

[light linden]

Dictator gods too iirc

[serene tundra]

I mean wasn't it just two gods for crimson and corruption? Or was it many?

In that case we would release a lot more evil biomes after killin Flesh wall

[split mortar]

Possibly tens to hundreds per biome iirc

[split mortar]

Oh for pre hm prob tens max

[serene tundra]

Well, if it's like that the the essences from wall just mix to existing one and make it stronger prob

Ik wall releases other powerful creatures but gods were contained in it too iirc

[light linden]

Random thing btw

The fact that there was enough gods to create two evil biomes vs the one good biome is kinda crazy

And all of the bad gods didn't even die

[serene tundra]

Because gods literally commited genocide of dragons to conquer world, lol

[empty dew]

Isn't Hallow also considered an evil biome, or it is a Vanilla lore thing?

[serene tundra]

Idk if gods can be good

[pliant ruin]

gods can

in fact

be good

the dragon genocide wasn't

[light linden]

It's chaotic good

[pliant ruin]

organized

it wasn't like

[serene tundra]

Just because they all wanted power n stuff

[cloud ibex]

I’m not too sure if that’s right

[pliant ruin]

a bunch of peoople banding together

to kill dragons

[serene tundra]

I mean, yeah but it's still not a good thing to do

[pliant ruin]

it was a bunch of independent people who happened to coincidentally kill dragons for their own individual reasons (and not to mention the context)

it was actually sometimes

like

dragons werent all good

dragon of flame was a p shitty guy

[cloud ibex]

That might just be how many he killed before he knew what the hell to do with the essence

[pliant ruin]

and so was dragon of frost

👍

[light linden]

You know meridia from tes?

[serene tundra]

Well, yeah. It could be for self defense

[light linden]

That's the hallow in vanilla lore

[pliant ruin]

no

not self defense

dragon of flame canonically was a jerk

and so was dragon of frost

[serene tundra]

Oh

Revenge n stuff

Idk

[pliant ruin]

not all dragons are good

[cloud ibex]

And there’s also the possibility that he left the evil gods’ essence there intentionally

[pliant ruin]

not all gods are bad

[serene tundra]

Ikr

[pliant ruin]

they're both just

people

[light linden]

Also

[pliant ruin]

well

they're like people

there's good ones

there's bad ones

[serene tundra]

I mean there is no black and white in calamity lore especially

[pliant ruin]

saying a side is bad and the other side is good is inherently wrong

and yharim fails to see that

[gritty kraken]

I think there might be a possibilities of reaper shark being stronger than an auric dragon

[serene tundra]

Yharim just kills every good because he is blinded with revenge

[light linden]

A bunch of the gods threw a young man into lava for saying "Hey I don't wanna kill a baby"

[pliant ruin]

well yeah

is that all gods though

no

[light linden]

We don't know how many gods were there and which ones did that

[pliant ruin]

i'm not denying there were bad gods

yes

yes we do

its very explicitly not all gods

[serene tundra]

Yep

We are not

[pliant ruin]

because gods weren't like

[serene tundra]

Denying it kinda

[pliant ruin]

a single conglomerate

[light linden]

Personally I wanna know what Xeroc was doing

[pliant ruin]

gods weren't thiws

big association

[robust osprey]

yes beacuse more than 20 gods will reunite to see a guy die in lava

[cloud ibex]

I’m pretty sure otonilou the “saint” wouldn’t have been like “throw this guy in the toaster oven”

[pliant ruin]

they're mostly independent

the gods that wanted yharim dead were p shitty yeah

but those were only a group of gods

[robust osprey]

doing xeroc things

[pliant ruin]

not all gods

the like

[serene tundra]

As I stated , there are no like good gods or bad gods imo

[pliant ruin]

entire point of the narrative is to not see things in black and white

this community misses that alot

[pliant ruin]

there are bad gods

and there are good gods

there's both

like

providence is pretty terrible

[robust osprey]

everything in calamity is on a grey scale mostly

[pliant ruin]

otonilou on the other hand was a saint

[robust osprey]

[light linden]

What even happened to otonilou

[pliant ruin]

she died

[cloud ibex]

I’ve mentioned this before but it’s funny how the one known explicitly evil dragon became the one known explicitly evil god

[serene tundra]

As i said, in my opinion. They all got the bad things they've done and good things

[robust osprey]

who is otonilou

[pliant ruin]

fried fish

[pliant ruin]

this is

objectively wrong though

you literally cannot look at providence and say she's not evil

[serene tundra]

I know my opinion is wrong lol

[pliant ruin]

she literally wants to commit omnicide

[light linden]

Providence?

[cloud ibex]

Yes

[pliant ruin]

confusing user

[light linden]

Idk why the other gods didn't get rid of Providence

[pliant ruin]

I mean

she's like

[serene tundra]

I mean, yeah Providence is a complete asshole

[pliant ruin]

one of the strongest

probably that's why :p

and she also has like

[light linden]

Like she was very clearly going to try and kill everything

[pliant ruin]

a whole ass army

[robust osprey]

because they were lazy

they were eepy

[serene tundra]

It's just weird to say your opinion and immediately deny it lol

[pliant ruin]

i am

not denying my opinion

[light linden]

You're telling me 100+ gods couldn't kill one?

[pliant ruin]

i never said

[serene tundra]

So that's why I didn't

[pliant ruin]

oh

mb

misunderstood

[pliant ruin]

why would

100+ gods team up though

again

they arent

a association

they're mostly independent

[light linden]

Hell I'm surprised Xeroc didn't get involved

[untold oracle]

Haihai what are we talking bout

[serene tundra]

They were chilling/j

[pliant ruin]

xeroc is likely busy with other things

(probably the distortion)

[robust osprey]

if 100 gods teamed up probably at least 20 would die by internal conflicts

[serene tundra]

What is yall opinion on Xeroc?

[pliant ruin]

idk hes sorta chill

[robust osprey]

he is silly

[light linden]

Ik but one god saying "Hey I'm going to kill every single one of you" wouldn't get a good response

[untold oracle]

The gods don’t really give a shit if they even know about her. Most of them mind their own business

[pliant ruin]

Well

i imagine some gods

might've tried

[gritty kraken]

is silva like the chillest gods Because she got 2 dragon friends or something

[pliant ruin]

but like

again

she's one of the strongest gods

and has like

a whole ass army

[untold oracle]

Yes ofc the deific era was long

[pliant ruin]

realistically 100 gods wouldn't team up

and the few gods that would try going against her

would likely die

a very painful and very hot death

[light linden]

Also random thing but I think the name "Traitor Almighty" is cooler than Yharim meant for it to be

[cloud ibex]

I think they probably have a garden growing weed in their off time

[pliant ruin]

YOU GET IT

xeroc has stoner energy.

[cloud ibex]

They strike me as the chill stoner type

[untold oracle]

I thought about this this morning and it kinda feels like Yharim has some kind of respect for Xeroc’s power in the very least

[cloud ibex]

Hoping they offer the Terrarian a fat doobie after we fight

[pliant ruin]

"damn you're cool do you wanna be a part of my blunt rotation"

[serene tundra]

Mixed for me. He's a chill guy, he wiped dark gods and at the same time he absorbed dragon king'a auric soul iirc

[light linden]

I'm hoping I get an actual item from him

[cloud ibex]

Dream blunt rotation: Xeroc, Silva and Draedon

[pliant ruin]

dark gods

whar

[untold oracle]

What would be Xeroc’s dream blunt rotation

[serene tundra]

I mean ml is one?

[pliant ruin]

oh

wait

isnt that old lore

[cloud ibex]

I think you’re getting old and new lore mixed up a bit

[pliant ruin]

im p sure thats old lore

[serene tundra]

Ooh

Right

Im talking bout old lore

Excuse me for that

[light linden]

Biggest issue for me with the nameless fight is that you don't really get anything worth your time from it

[serene tundra]

Gonna switch to the new

[untold oracle]

You get divine wings

And a hella good time with the fight itself

[light linden]

Those are buggy af

[pliant ruin]

i'm gonna force lucille to make nameless drop a fat blunt

[untold oracle]

How so

[serene tundra]

You get the uhhh uhh confidence and feeling of power

[untold oracle]

Works for me