lore-discussion

[pliant ruin]

yeahj

[real silo]

God of space

[lilac lake]

I know its not the worm
So who was it

[real silo]

But not god of outer space

[dusk laurel]

Shakidou, a guy

[pliant ruin]

some guy not in the mod

[real silo]

God of the volume inside a room

[lilac lake]

Bro this some BS

[real silo]

God of the space inside a container

[lilac lake]

I can’t believe every dragon got ganked

[dusk laurel]

God of the area of a piece of paper

[lilac lake]

How many were there anyways?

[real silo]

You can believe it

Thousands

But thousands is not a lot considering there are millions of people

[lilac lake]

I can see why like 89% of them got ganked

[light linden]

question

[gritty kraken]

One dude soloed them all and then they get ganged yeah

John moonlor

[real silo]

More like 99%

[indigo glade]

John Moon.

[real silo]

Yharon is the only auric dragon left

[lilac lake]

I wish there was a way to actually talk to yharon

And not have to fight him

[indigo glade]

Wouldn't this be higher, because there were more than a hundred dragons?

[light linden]

what do y'all think yharim's end game would be?

[gritty kraken]

Yharon canonically jump you I think

[real silo]

Yes but percentage with points is stupid...

[lilac lake]

There was probably a dragon of flesh💔

Fleshragon

[real silo]

Killing xeroc (impossible)
Killing slime god and providence (almost out of time)

[indigo glade]

"So... we have finally did it... Every God! What now, my soul-tuned brother?"
"What now? What do you mean what now? We never had a plan for what now!"
"But... I thought it was your plan to decide what now."
"..."

[lilac lake]

Man….if only xeroc died that day

[light linden]

I'm talking if he actually did those things

[real silo]

He would pull a thanos

Set up a farm and die of old age

Or just off himself

[dusk laurel]

Do you guys ever think Yharon told Yharim that there was no way for him to revive the other dragons, I'd say it's likely but you never know

[light linden]

still upset at how we can't kill xeroc

[lilac lake]

If i was yharon mannnn the whole
Planet is catching the fade

[lilac lake]

EXACTLYYYYYYY

[gritty kraken]

Unrelated but I think xeroc,silva and John ravager got their godly souls because the dragons themselves gave it willingly

[light linden]

ngl it would be cool that if we were on legendary ftw death we could actually kill him

[lilac lake]

We can’t even get the proper revenge for the dragons

Cause this guy is THE guy

[dusk laurel]

That's not the point...

[real silo]

I'm fine with xeroc not dying because he's a really cool guy

[lilac lake]

He gives us a rock

[real silo]

I wouldn't be fine if his fight is a stupid fucking test

It's so lame

[lilac lake]

I mean….

Yall said hes FAR above anything ever alive on the planet or in space

[real silo]

Oh yeah you did my completely arbitrary test now you get my completely arbitrary reward

[lilac lake]

There would be no way we could genuinely get an actual fight from him

Because hes always gonna win

[real silo]

Exactly

Do I have a solution? No

I don't want him to die but I also really don't want a fight that is just him """"testing"""" us

Boss rush is already that

[lilac lake]

I mean I have an IDEA but like

[light linden]

also another thing

[lilac lake]

Its gonna seem bad

[light linden]

I just think having a super boss with a hollow victory is a bad idea

[real silo]

Yeah

[lilac lake]

Yeah

Like with noxus we can probably kill him right

[real silo]

We will kill noxus yes

[lilac lake]

But for some reason xeroc is completely untouchable

Wait what if us, calamitas, yharim, and yharon all jump xeroc?

Is he still gonna not struggle?

[indigo glade]

It will really depend on the execution if a victory feels hollow or not.

[light linden]

calamitas will NOT agree to that

[pliant ruin]

the mainj thing is that theres also like no eason to kill xeroc

[warped rapids]

id much prefer we kill xeroc would feel unfinished if we didnt

[pliant ruin]

hes just a guy

and cal

avoids killing cahracters taht aren't like

straight up evil or just . immediate threats

[indigo glade]

Take Nameless Deity. A lot of people enjoy the outcome, despite it all esentially negating down to "you can't kill it, it is quite literally God."

[gritty kraken]

Let her rest fr

[lilac lake]

I mean he did…..ruin everything

[pliant ruin]

not really

not intentionally or directly anyways

[lilac lake]

Its a domino effect

[pliant ruin]

he likely absorbed the soul of zeratros for a greater cause, not due to selfish reasons

[warped rapids]

tbh that was my main issue with wotg lol but it makes sense you cant kill like GOD god

[light linden]

there's a difference between an omnipotent god and a very powerful guy

[indigo glade]

Would you say Alfred Nobel, the inventor of dynamite, ruined "everything"?

[pliant ruin]

i imagine he feels guilt over the dragon's genocide

but understands he did what had to be done

anyways i don't understand why you have to kill a boss to feel accomplished. I never particularly understood the sentiment

Undertale's pacifist route is pretty accomplishing and you don't kill anybody there

I just, don't really understand the sentiment

It's all a matter of execution

[lilac lake]

Completely different things but….Not necessarily? He was just the guy who made an explosion and said “good enough”

Now if you asked me if someone like Oppenheimer did that I would say yeah because he was the guy who helped make the biggest tool of human eradication

I mean even Oppenheimer realized we were cooked when he made that

[real silo]

Yes

I hope xeroc fight doesn't end up like nameless deity

[gritty kraken]

Xeroc fight should give you admin role for winning

[lilac lake]

Okay for me personally I feel like its just completing what we came to do

We the terrarian came to shake things up and change everything, the biggest way of doing so being killing gods

[warped rapids]

unlocks cheat sheet

[pliant ruin]

The terrarian's lore is up to you

It's not really a set thing

If that's what you envision for them, that's fine

But it's not canonically their reasoning for existence or anything

they're a blank slate

is melon gun here

is he gonna post the image

[lilac lake]

I wouldn’t feel right knowing theres just that ONE guy who could wipe me and my hard work off the face of reality

[real silo]

He is not

[dusk laurel]

He's asleep

[sinful adder]

yharim, calamitas, the exo mechs, noxus, and the player combined still couldn't kill xeroc

[dusk laurel]

So nope

[pliant ruin]

eh

disagree

i think they could

[warped rapids]

i just hate not killing him coz its like then whats the point of even fighting him its just fuckin around at that point

[indigo glade]

Thankfully it is 2:30 here, so probably not.

[lilac lake]

What exactly made xeroc so untouchable

[pliant ruin]

again, keep in mind the dbz power scale thing was like

highly exagerated

[light linden]

random thing btw

[pliant ruin]

i mean yeah

its fuckinga round

[light linden]

are the meteors and astral meteors related at all?

[pliant ruin]

thats sorta the point

[lilac lake]

He’s just the light guy

[sinful adder]

he has every possible power boost the calamity universe allows a being to have

[pliant ruin]

you can fight for other reasons than killing your opponent

[real silo]

Xeroc is neutral to everything on the planet

[gritty kraken]

Astral meteor is a star

[indigo glade]

No.

[pliant ruin]

it's a sparring match, basically

[lilac lake]

Exactly like “we got strong enough to compare near you for no apparent reason”

[lilac lake]

He did that with the boss rush

[sinful adder]

strongest auric soul + strongest human + attuned + perfect ascension

[pliant ruin]

No not really

boss rush is

its own thing

[indigo glade]

One is space rock, the other is the Astral Star being hurled by Deus.

[pliant ruin]

its not a sparring match

its a test

I just

don't understand the sentiment, still

[light linden]

also

[pliant ruin]

you can very easily make a boss, specially one that isn't Evil or Villainous, have a satisfying conclusion and fight without killing him

[real silo]

And I really dislike tests

[pliant ruin]

this seems like a very close minded look into how game design and narrative works

[light linden]

if the proper xeroc fight doesn't give something useful at least

[sinful adder]

if yharim and yharon willingly became a god together they could almost match xeroc and might barely be able to beat him via skill

[indigo glade]

Xeroc gives you a high five. The end.

[warped rapids]

i would want boss rush to be the test then hes like okay lets scrap, and then you kill him

[light linden]

I am gonna be pissed

[pliant ruin]

Why would you kill him though, other than self-satisfaction

Consider that

[indigo glade]

What useful thing is there to give?

[pliant ruin]

the terrarian is a blank slate

[gritty kraken]

A single light pet

[lilac lake]

Changing everything

[warped rapids]

self satisfaction

[pliant ruin]

This would go against them being a blank slate

Because it's a action motivated by selfish needs

[light linden]

I mean wings that give infinite fight for one

[lilac lake]

Imagine what you could do with a world devoid of all the gods who consumed auric souls

[pliant ruin]

If you want to kill xeroc

[real silo]

Not even
Primordial light is very good for combat but rebirth isn't

[pliant ruin]

just headcanon that you do that or something

[light linden]

something that lets you spawn in enemies

[pliant ruin]

Nothing really

[lilac lake]

The evolution would be amazing to witness

[pliant ruin]

And also Silvai s still there

what evolution

nothing changes

the actual big change comes from killing Yharim

and you do that

[lilac lake]

Cant xeroc kill her?

[pliant ruin]

no

shes immortal

[lilac lake]

But he’s……

[pliant ruin]

shes literally like life

she's the embodiment of life

[sinful adder]

btw, xeroc likely tried to stop gods from being made by hiding the terminus in the abyss, but that didn't work and people kept absorbing auric souls and killing dragons, just with some weaker replacement ritual

[pliant ruin]

you cannot kill her if you don't kill every single living being on earth

[lilac lake]

Well shes kinda stuck in a pit

[pliant ruin]

yeah she'll reform eventually

[pliant ruin]

also yeah this

[indigo glade]

She's been in there before, by the way.

[sinful adder]

silva is weaker than xeroc, but cannot die. She will always regenerate as long as there is a single living thing left on the planet

[pliant ruin]

is a interesting theory

[lilac lake]

😭

[warped rapids]

if xeroc was like he was in old lore where he was this super being above everything else then id be fine with not being able to kill him but now that they made him way lower scale i wanna smash the mf

[pliant ruin]

it makes it clear that xeroc didn't want the dragon genocide to happen

[real silo]

The way I see it
Xeroc is the protector of the world from outside threats
He will never interfere with the planet's people nor will he ever show up
But as soon as something world threatening pops up he appears and slays it in seconds

[pliant ruin]

still don't understand the sentiment

but to each their own

[light linden]

ngl

[warped rapids]

yea you said that

[sinful adder]

this is the most likely situation

[light linden]

I feel like silva could die from other methods

[lilac lake]

Wdym outside threats

[real silo]

This is why I believe he doesn't deserv death

[lilac lake]

WE handle noxus

[real silo]

Yeah

[sinful adder]

it is likely that we will need xeroc's help to kill noxus

[lilac lake]

Wait did noxus consume an auric soul

[real silo]

And there's no telling if there's another future threat as bad as noxus

[pliant ruin]

Nah

[real silo]

Like

[pliant ruin]

Noxus isn't a god

[real silo]

Fovos came completely fucking randomly

[pliant ruin]

it's a thing

[sinful adder]

no as far as we can tell, but it ate what was left of the souls of like a thousand gods

[pliant ruin]

also yeah if you kill xeroc you're endangering the entire world

[real silo]

You think another fovos won't come in the future?

[lilac lake]

Who is fovos

[sinful adder]

xeroc is definitely trying to protect terraria

[pliant ruin]

moon lord

[indigo glade]

Xeroc's entire motivation for ascending was to ensure another Moon Lord incident didn't happen again.

[real silo]

In fact another fovos did come

[light linden]

actually I just had an idea

[lilac lake]

That’s his name😭💔

[real silo]

Noxus is the second world ending threat that came to the world

It's happened TWICE

[lilac lake]

Fovos😭💔

[pliant ruin]

fovos is a cool name

it means fear in latin

[real silo]

What if it happens a THIRD time?

[pliant ruin]

or smth

[warped rapids]

fovos pretty sick name

[indigo glade]

Greek.

[dusk laurel]

Greek

[pliant ruin]

greek

is latin

ancient greek

anyways

[dusk laurel]

Nuh uh

[pliant ruin]

and i imagine that's what it's coming from

not

[warped rapids]

crazy

[pliant ruin]

the literal modern greek language

[lilac lake]

i know but imagine giving him an interview and you see this eldritch dude come in and say “Hi my name is fovos”

Like hes in a suit and stuff

[warped rapids]

tuxedo moonlord

[pliant ruin]

well if chtulhu did that itd alsobe funny but not bc hes called chtulhu but because hes in a suit

and in a job interview

[dusk laurel]

Moon Lord was given the name Fovos

By sky people

[sinful adder]

moon lord used to be stronger than noxus and killed like 2/3s of the dragons or something, they couldn't stop him and barely managed to seal him on the moon. Xeroc's most likely motivation for his actions is to protect terraria from anything that is a threat to the entire world, and he probably swore to never interfere with things happening on terraria

[lilac lake]

Wait but if xeroc is a god and he’s THE god then how can outside threats even exist

[warped rapids]

can we have yharim wear a suit in the fight

[real silo]

Now let's say we kill xeroc
That means we have become the absolute strongest thing on the planet, and we can defend it from literally anything that comes to the planet

BIG problem however,
We are not immortal
We WILL die eventually
And if Fovos 3 comes after our death, there will be NOTHING stopping them

[cosmic zenith]

I'm fairly sure Fovos is a more modern version

[pliant ruin]

oh

[dusk laurel]

Phobos

[pliant ruin]

that's odd it's usually latin for this type of stuff

ic

[dusk laurel]

The ancient greek

[sinful adder]

he is the strongest god but not all powerful. He didn't create the world or anything

[cosmic zenith]

While the Ancient Greek version would be Phobos (which isn't as good for a name)

[hybrid barn]

Where's Fovos 2?
Or wait, that'd probably be Noxus

[warped rapids]

i like how its a mix of latin and greek

[dusk laurel]

A martian moon already has that name

[lilac lake]

I mean unless we pull a draedon and make something impossible happen

The terrarian did invent miracle matter before he did

[warped rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/ship-phobos-ship-phobos-geometry-dash-yuuchouze-gif-19430155

[cosmic zenith]

It's Greek because, as mentioned here, the name was given by the sky civilization
Which is very consistently inspired by Ancient Greece

[sinful adder]

this is only half true: draedon could have done it first if he had access to auric. He did all the hard parts and we did the last step

[indigo glade]

Not really...

[hybrid barn]

And the essences that only appear after you kill DoG, which he probably wouldn't have done

[indigo glade]

There are a bunch of materials within Miracle Matter that Draedon didn't have access to or wouldn't be willing to use.

[lilac lake]

Did he even know they existed?

[real silo]

Point is
Xeroc is immortal and stupidly fucking strong

If we kill xeroc we take his mantle of being stupidly fucking strong, EXCEPT we don't have immortality so we can't protect the planet for as long as xeroc can

[hybrid barn]

I don't imagine so, since we don't know about anything else that'd cause said essences to appear

[lilac lake]

If we kill him can we not gain immortality?

Will he not drop a soul

[real silo]

We can't ascend using his soul

[indigo glade]

No.

[hybrid barn]

Gods typically don't

[indigo glade]

God souls just

💥

[lilac lake]

Aint that some bullshit

I mean our character is basically a demi god

We have hella souls and impossible stuff

So maybe just maybe we wont die in like 60 years

Considering all the otherworldy stuff we own

I give it a smooth 5 thousand years

[pliant ruin]

you can't ascend with a god's soul and you also don't know the ritual

so yeah you're dying of old age

[warped rapids]

in the addon im writing i have it so noxus drops a device that was planned to be used to capture xerocs soul and then you use that on old xboy

[pliant ruin]

..unless you headcanon it that you're immortal glupshitto deity from beyond ig you can dot hat

[light linden]

that's what I was thinking tbh

that noxus would have some way to kill xeroc

[indigo glade]

I had an idea.

For a new Terrarian OC.

[lilac lake]

I mean think about our character

We eat flesh hearts and use otherworldly material

Are strong enough to kill gods

[indigo glade]

Anyways.

I'm going back to slime.

Bye.

[lilac lake]

And even get the MAIN guy to like acknowledge we are not human-like in power

[real silo]

We don't have the means to immortality

[lilac lake]

We could be nigh though

Like old age would be like millions of years

[real silo]

We could have it if you make your terrarian be that way

Because smth smth terrarian is whatever you want them to be

[lilac lake]

What do YOU think then?

[real silo]

I think they will die within 100 years just like yharim

And there's no guarantee that someone as strong as us will rise within those 100 years

There is however a guarantee that xeroc will still be alive to defend the planet

assuming we don't kill him

[sinful adder]

These are "normal" magic things anyone can learn in the right circumstances and practice

[lilac lake]

Normal😭

[real silo]

Return to slime...

[lilac lake]

Eventually someone stronger than us will come

We COULD pull a draedon

[sinful adder]

It's like "peak human" for the calamity universe. It is undoubtedly incredibly strong, but there are stronger entities out there that we just can't match

[warped rapids]

me when i enter the slime after a short amount of time away from the slime

[lilac lake]

Wait draedon would still be alive

[sinful adder]

No, but draedon could pull a Draedon

[lilac lake]

Couldnt we leave everything to him?

[sinful adder]

And yes, Draedon is the best bet after xeroc, but he doesn't care as much. I would rather have xeroc be the strongest being than Draedon

[lilac lake]

I mean he’s insanely smart

[real silo]

Draedon isn't guaranteed to stay on the planet

[warped rapids]

yea didnt he say he wanted to leave

[light linden]

question

[real silo]

Yeah

[lilac lake]

Ehhh draedons not the type of guy to like….kill the whole planet

[real silo]

Once he's done with this planet he leaves

[sinful adder]

He's smart, but he also does not care about anything except for knowledge. He protects terraria as long as he still has more to learn from terraria, but he will leave it behind

[warped rapids]

he wont kill the planet but he'll just leave

[lilac lake]

That would be a long time though

[sinful adder]

He will leave it as it is, but will stop helping. He's not good or evil, he just doesn't care

[lilac lake]

Maybe a second terrarian would come

[light linden]

you think this is enough for xeroc to react or should I get more?

[real silo]

Eventually yeah
But what if no one is strong enough to handle a random extraterrestrial threat that happens to come?

[sinful adder]

The problem is that even if a second terrarian does become strong enough, there is a high chance they won't be able to get strong enough to defend the world from potential threats

[lilac lake]

All things gotta end🤷🏾‍♂️

[warped rapids]

lol

[real silo]

What if a theoretical fovos 3 appears right after you die but right before your replacement is born

Then the world is just fucked

But if xeroc remains alive the world wouldn't be fucked

Because he's there to kill the threat

[sinful adder]

Example: not even yharim could beat full power moon lord, according to Dev statements. He would put up a fight, but it would be like a human fighting a very angry wasp

[gritty kraken]

“It’s your fault” ending unlocked

[lilac lake]

I mean thinking about it

[light linden]

fovos is the human right?

[sinful adder]

Yes

In this situation

[lilac lake]

Why would xeroc protext terraria for eternity

Eventually someones gonna slip

[sinful adder]

He probably swore to do so, and he already has for over a thousand years

[lilac lake]

He can’t do it forever

[wheat walrus]

but what if the wasp dodges all attacks and punctures all weak points with poison

[warped rapids]

the wasp is a dark souls player

[real silo]

He can't do it forever but he can do it for way way way longer than anyone else can

[lilac lake]

Wait so we’ll beat yharim with ease?

He’ll be like hardmode level

[pliant ruin]

no

hes the final boss

[lilac lake]

How in gods name did he get upscaled

[warped rapids]

ml is not at full power when you fight him

[pliant ruin]

full power moon lord

[lilac lake]

💔😭

[warped rapids]

the moonlord we fight is like a corpse

[lilac lake]

Is it ever explained WHAT moon lord is

[sinful adder]

Moon lord used to be stronger than noxus

[light linden]

I still wanna fight the o.g. moonlord

[warped rapids]

alien

[lilac lake]

Or do we just know he showed up

[wheat walrus]

thing from "beyond the stars" seemingly

[sinful adder]

Will be soon!

Lore coming in next big update

[warped rapids]

[lilac lake]

YES

[sinful adder]

Will explain his motivations, strategy, origins, powers, ect.

In the bestiary entries of the pillars and moon lord

And also maybe npc dialogue?

[real silo]

Whar

[hoary cape]

where did you get that from lol

[real silo]

I don't think any of the npcs were alive long enough to know about fovos

[warped rapids]

angler is eternal

[real silo]

Angler smells

[hoary cape]

angler is like 12

[warped rapids]

,000

,000

[sinful adder]

I was probably thinking of something else

[wheat walrus]

erm actually everyone can live for thousands of years suddenly there is no timeline everything just randomly happens

[sinful adder]

Anyways, yharim could beat current moon lord easily, but not full power moon lord

[warm gull]

sometimes, you just gotta kill people

[gritty kraken]

Angler is the last remaining piece of original world soul

[warped rapids]

angler is xeroc in disguise

[real silo]

Didn't know xeroc enjoyed fishing

[lilac lake]

Wait whats the terminus

Is it like the thing xeroc used to become a god

[real silo]

Maybe instead of an angler trying to catch fish in a lake, xeroc is a god trying to catch distortion creatures in dimensional rifts

[sinful adder]

We don't know for sure, but this is a very likely explanation

[real silo]

Presumably

We have no fuckin clue

[sinful adder]

He broke it somehow and hid it away so that it couldn't be used

[warped rapids]

very special rock

[real silo]

Other than maybe silva had it too

[hoary cape]

xeroc did some ritual to become a god

[lilac lake]

Wait so if alternate dimension’s exist, there surely is a god thats comparable to xeroc right???

He’s only a dimensional protection right

Not like a overall

[hoary cape]

he is not God anymore

he is just the strongest of the gods in this world

[sinful adder]

Alternate dimensions don't exist unless you count the distortion, which is the only one

Old one's army isn't canon

[cosmic zenith]

(Even the Distortion is not an alternate dimension)

It's like a crack in spacetime

[sinful adder]

Oh so it's like an outside the universe sort of space?

[gritty kraken]

Universe sewer system

[cosmic zenith]

A crack in the glass doesn't cease to be the glass, but it's fundamentally different from the rest of the glass

[sinful adder]

Is the universe like a bubble sort of thing? Or infinite? Or both?

[cosmic zenith]

I think that was Ozz's explanation

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[warped rapids]

shit poetic af

[humble fog]

and still can’t drink

[sinful adder]

Oh, so it's like a crack but not a hole in it to something outside

[lilac lake]

So theres NOBODY more powerful than xeroc?

[cosmic zenith]

Nope

[warped rapids]

not that we know of

[tropic oak]

johnny bravo

[sinful adder]

That means it's still bound to a physical location on the glass. Is this accurate to the distortion?

[lilac lake]

Yharim was enough to make him doubt himself, but it’s impossible for anything to ever be stronger than him ever😭💔

[hoary cape]

noxus and fovos are the closest to xeroc in strength

full powered fovos

[fading helm]

Offtopic but Question, how many "normal" souls combined (what polterghast is made of basically) would it take to beat yharim? this has been eating away at me for some days

[lilac lake]

If noxus and full powered fovos fought xeroc who would win

[sinful adder]

Even they are weaker by a lot

[cosmic zenith]

Xeroc is the strongest being in the lore
That doesn't mean they are the strongest in the universe, but they are the strongest the lore will ever feature

[warped rapids]

epic rap battles of history

[fading helm]

Doesnt that just mean strongest in the universe tho

[lilac lake]

You just confirmed Someone could potentially beat him

[cosmic zenith]

Not necessarily

[lilac lake]

I got what I wanted-

[fading helm]

considering if it aint shown on lore

it dont really exist

[sinful adder]

I'm not sure but I suspect that xeroc would still win unless noxus has a specific ability that counters Xeroc's powers

[lilac lake]

[cosmic zenith]

You're free to headcanon or speculate someone stronger

[fading helm]

hm

[cosmic zenith]

But canonically, Xeroc is the strongest

[fading helm]

5 fovos perhaps

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-moon-lord-josh-hutcherson-whistle-gif-11278917756883322479

[hoary cape]

I find it funny that an alien that nearly killed every dragon can be beaten by a guy who got powers from merging his soul with a dragons soul and became a god

Massive power jump right there

[sinful adder]

There is one feasible way for a character to match Xeroc's power, and Rebecca's squid god of evolution character shows that. It requires very specific circumstances to basically harness the power of the entire world and the stars against xeroc

[fading helm]

Imma just say we dont know how old fovos was, he could have been like a 16 year old and not full potential 🤫

[fading helm]

afaik we dont really know the gap between xeroc and fovos

[light linden]

gonna kill silva one way or another

[fading helm]

could be like

x10

x1000

or 5x

[fading helm]

wait there is another island below the shrine

tought it was all empty void below it

[lilac lake]

That you confirmed we know of

Theres always a bigger fish

[warped rapids]

i mean a cake is more than just some flour and eggs and shit mixed together you can combine stuff and have it come out as more

[fading helm]

guys big question how much souls merged together would take to beat xeroc

[cosmic zenith]

(That you'll ever know of)

[lilac lake]

Don’t downplay my hype

[fading helm]

polterghast type merging

[cosmic zenith]

We'll never add or even hint at a stronger character

[lilac lake]

Soon………There will be a fight xeroc HAS to take seriously

[cosmic zenith]

Which is what I was saying

[lilac lake]

Never say never…..

[light linden]

can I ask a question please?

[warped rapids]

they have

[fading helm]

fovos > xeroc tbh

[warped rapids]

said never

[fading helm]

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-moon-lord-josh-hutcherson-whistle-gif-11278917756883322479

[cosmic zenith]

Sure

[hoary cape]

I am pretty sure if there ever is a fight with xeroc it's just like a person fighting a fly for him

[lilac lake]

Everytime you say never I gain the ability to manipulate probability for 30 seconds

[light linden]

what would happen if someone tried drilling into the abyss from below?

[lilac lake]

Its now more probable a rock will hit me

[fading helm]

Dont think its possible

[warped rapids]

probably rock too hard

[fading helm]

if push comes to shove then jared shows up ig

[light linden]

I imagine jared would have a fit if it ever got exposed to the underworld

[fading helm]

He would just flop around

[lilac lake]

Is jared immune to hell

[wheat walrus]

Was about to say, but Stip said before I could.

[fading helm]

Yo omni

question

How much souls merged together would you reckon it would take to beat the likes of noxus/ yharim

considering polter was like

100000

[wheat walrus]

I think it's more about Yharim growing so quick and so much, than it is about Yharim comparing to Xeroc in a fight

[wheat walrus]

idk

[warm gull]

yharim is the victim

yharim did nothing wrong

the dragon extinction was an inside job

[wheat walrus]

I also idk if Polterghast is actual 100k souls lol

[tropic oak]

true

[fading helm]

its around 100.000-1M i heard

[wheat walrus]

what

[fading helm]

dungeon was not that big

[warm gull]

gods are the antichrist

[warped rapids]

the government made the sulphur sea

[warm gull]

yharim is jesus

[gritty kraken]

-godseeker army soldier

[fading helm]

Estimates from some dev about how big the dungeon is

[warm gull]

repent

[wheat walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/erm-what-the-flip-what-the-flip-gif-1686926213572154405

[fading helm]

point is

[warm gull]

gods are the CABAL

[fading helm]

polter is really efficient

[warm gull]

yharim will SAVE you

repent

[fading helm]

That mfer is not getting out of bed how is he gonna save us

😭

[warm gull]

the gods staged their own genocide

[fading helm]

hes sulking rn

[lilac lake]

How

[dusk laurel]

[fading helm]

mass suicide

[cosmic zenith]

The Abyss would leak into the Underworld
Though it wouldn't drain the sea as much as ingame

That said, good luck going through rock that dense

[warm gull]

the gods staged their own genocide so that we would victim blame yharim

he's the true hero

[fading helm]

Indeed

[warm gull]

don't believe their lies

gods are EVIL

destroy the GOD STATE

[hoary cape]

Not all of them

[fading helm]

Dragons are GOOD

[lilac lake]

Hey so will xeroc take
Us seriously?

Or is it gonna be another test

[hoary cape]

Most likely not

[fading helm]

We are getting low diffed mate

[warm gull]

okay fascist

[lilac lake]

i can hope

[hoary cape]

Silva isn't evil

[lilac lake]

That….is wild…..

[warm gull]

all gods are EVIL

[fading helm]

Literally scheeming on the darkest place on earth

[lilac lake]

Including xeroc

[fading helm]

and you telling me she is NOT evil???

[hoary cape]

Bro called me a fascist

This is uncalled for

[lilac lake]

Prove xeroc isn’t evil

[fading helm]

Her base is literally on the deepest and darkest point of the world

that is the most obvious super villain

i have seen

[wheat walrus]

How dense?

[hoary cape]

Got to remember that all of the tales of xeroc being evil are from the guys who directly think they are evil

[warm gull]

xeroc STOLE the PRIMORDIAL LIGHT to DESTROY MORALITY

[hoary cape]

It's a biased story

[gritty kraken]

She gave me an access to terragon armor so she’s good

[fading helm]

Xeroc killed a dragon

dragon good

xeroc bad

I cant see any flaws in this logic

[hoary cape]

Not proven fact

[fading helm]

tbh

[fading helm]

Yharim said so and he is my emperor

[hoary cape]

It's never stated that xeroc killed the dragon without the dragons consent

[wheat walrus]

Yharim also said that Zeratros was fading regardless

[warm gull]

gecko is a FASCIST GOD LOVER

[fading helm]

I mean I wouldnt kill someone even with consent

[wheat walrus]

let's put that power to use

[fading helm]

but thats just me

[hoary cape]

I don't love the gods

[fading helm]

He was gonna come back

tho I actually agree

[hoary cape]

Providence can die

But not all of them are evil

[light linden]

time to make a poor decision

[fading helm]

(xeroc was dumb not thinking about the consequences tho)

[lilac lake]

What if xeroc willingly lets himself lose because he’s tired of being the god

[fading helm]

You are telling me the god of SLIMES the most dangerous creature in the planet is a good guy?¡?¡?¡?¡

yeah buddy

[lilac lake]

I mean it probably would get tiring

[fading helm]

imma stick to the empire

[hoary cape]

Zaratros might have gone you will be stronger than me if you take my powers. Tbh zeratros did get mortally wounded by an alien. What if another one comes back

[wheat walrus]

erm... what in the actual Zeratros himself was gravely injured. It seemed his power, along with his life, would be lost forever. are you saying

[lilac lake]

Yharon wasn’t dead

[fading helm]

Dragon aeri

he was gonna come back eventually

[lilac lake]

Yharon could revive everyone

That was more

Lore

[warm gull]

this is FASCIST rhetoric

kill all gods

[wheat walrus]

well, Yharim knew this from Yharon. Why would Yharon tell Yharim that Zeratros would be dead forever

[hoary cape]

Can you shut up about calling me a fascist

Like what the hell

[wheat walrus]

Yharon of all dragons, the dragon of rebirth, saying that Zeratros' power would be lost to eternity

[light linden]

[gritty kraken]

Didn’t zeratros like
gave his soul to xeroc because John moonlor got his soul dying or something

[warm gull]

no

[hoary cape]

That's a weird way to word it

[warm gull]

xeroc STOLE THE PRIMORDIAL LIGHT

[sinful adder]

That is likely but we don't know

[hoary cape]

Fovos basically wiped out every dragon the gods just saved their powers lol

[wheat walrus]

idk if Moonlord doing anything about Zeratros' soul is confirmed, but it is likely

[hoary cape]

Did some of them become not great people after sure

[fading helm]

Dont remember that tbh

[wheat walrus]

dude check a few replies ago

[sinful adder]

This is not true of any of them except zeratros

[wheat walrus]

.

[fading helm]

I mean when was this stated

[wheat walrus]

Prelude

[fading helm]

What lore item was it

Ah alr

I will assume that what you are saying is false to push my agenda tho

[warm gull]

fovos was a MYTH invented by XEROCKAFELLER to JUSTIFY GENOCIDE

[hoary cape]

We literally fight him

Can't be a myth

Smh

[wheat walrus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/818531213136101416/1251199801869996154/tob7.gif?width=1177&height=662

[fading helm]

Xeroc and yharon plotted to take zeratros spot

But xeroc did a double betray

[hoary cape]

Xeroc is the good guy of this story obviously

[fading helm]

Also xeroc corrupted yharon

[fading helm]

Icl everyone else is just a massive dickhead so yeah

[lilac lake]

Yharon should

He’s the dragon of rebirth

[warm gull]

this is the NARRATIVE pushed by the GODS to NORMALIZE their FASCIST ideology

[gritty kraken]

The death-ray got him

[pliant ruin]

dai yharim supporter arc

[fading helm]

Should have gotten inf flight

[hoary cape]

Moon lord pulling out the insta death ray

[dusk laurel]

Daiquiri is a certified Yharim believer

I will not question this further

[hoary cape]

Bro keeps calling me a fascist

Lore is ruined now

[wheat walrus]

You FASCIST!!!

RAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[hoary cape]

[dusk laurel]

Geckos were used by the government to steal our money!!!!!

[wheat walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-dario-greggio-gif-26580935

[dusk laurel]

Geico Insurance is a SCAM

[hoary cape]

I am geico god of taxes

And insurance

[warm gull]

gecko is a PUPPET controlled by BIG DIVINITY

[hoary cape]

I own big divinity

[lilac lake]

Anyways……

[fading helm]

Who yall got winning in a political debate
Yharim or xeroc

[lilac lake]

Yharim

He had hella followers

[hoary cape]

Xeroc

[lilac lake]

[fading helm]

The postulation is gods vs dragons btw

Thats the theme

[hoary cape]

Xeroc would just vaporize yharim easy win

[fading helm]

He would get like no votes tho

[hoary cape]

Doesn't have time more mortal debates

[fading helm]

And yharim jr

[wheat walrus]

Yharim with a cult-like giant following VS Xeroc being unknown to like 99% of people in the world

[hoary cape]

He would win by default

[fading helm]

Wins the election

[hoary cape]

Vaporizes him also

[fading helm]

Medieval ages.earth

Is it faired

[fading helm]

Yharim jr jr

[hoary cape]

Yharim having children smh

[wheat walrus]

King Yharim:

[sinful adder]

Yharim was a politician, that's kinda his main thing

He's very good at convincing people

[gritty kraken]

Fix the dungeon

[light linden]

I mean didn't yharim have multiple layers of government?

I vaguely remember draedon complaining about bureaucrats

[dusk laurel]

Probably

Yharim had an empire after all, he would need people to help manage it

All nations have layers of government, even absolute ones

[light linden]

something I've been wondering

do we know what is used for exposed parts of armor around joints for the later tiers of armor?

there's no way it's leather or silk

[supple thunder]

well tarragon is supposed to be plant matter so maybe the joints are like magically strong leaves

bloodflare is mostly blood and souls so it’s probably flexible enough because soul power idk

[supple thunder]

also silva armor

cosmilite mignt be flexible enough to weave into a “fabric” for joints

[sinful adder]

Tarragon isn't canon probably

[supple thunder]

oh yea

[devout grotto]

Core of Calamity's getting removed iirc
Pumpkin/Frost Moon stuff

Ah

[hoary berry]

and the pumpkin/frost moon stuff is ASE

although i think it's dubious if ASE itself will be getting replaced or not

[devout grotto]

I see I see

[real silo]

I think ASE itself will stay but not it's materials

[devout grotto]

Oh yeah I think the Galactica (?) stuff's getting removed too?

[devout grotto]

Aight, gotcha

[indigo glade]

not calamity

calamity is staying

[real silo]

Replaced with celestial sigils in recipes

[devout grotto]

Yeah, just the upgraded stuff

[real silo]

(joking)

[indigo glade]

if anything calamity will be more useful than before

[real silo]

I think there was a dev vote for galactica

Most wanted it to stay

[real silo]

It would be really funny if they did this instead though

celestial sigils or lunar hooks

[indigo glade]

yes but they dont change the amount required

so you just need 10x the lunar fragments

[real silo]

Yes

[tidal tulip]

yo anyone know if the martian invasion is canon to calamity

[real silo]

They are

[warm gull]

ya

[brisk ore]

i dont get why would filler recipes be removed

its just funnier

and shortens the look of recipes

like instead of essence, more essence, even more essence, ectoplasm and ashes of calamity

you can have the core of calamity

[light linden]

Personally I'm worried about some recipes being thrown into other stages of progression

[brisk ore]

because it would break already existing worlds/characters?

[light linden]

More so certain stuff I regularly use

E.g. I'm worried about the chaos and tranquility candles

[split mortar]

Cores of calamity aren’t being removed iirc just the other cores

Yeah no core of calamity

[brisk ore]

yay no more annoying flowers

for health up and plantera summon

why isnt normal bone dust not getting removed?

i dont even know what its for

like 1 mining accesory

[light linden]

Calcium potions

[untold oracle]

My coral cannon

[sinful adder]

Normal bone dust absolutely should have been removed...

It's so incredibly pointless

Calcium potions don't need to exist

[brisk ore]

and if they do you can jsut make them trade exclusive

[cosmic minnow]

I liked the plague keeper…

[brisk ore]

i dont understand the removal of weapons too

should have jsut been added to "we will rework them someday" list instead

[cosmic minnow]

Fr

[pliant ruin]

its because of weapon bloat

there's too many

it makes the mod feel crammed and makes it harder to balance things

[brisk ore]

also i am curious how will the calamity be reworked

its just a cursor effect with damage

[cosmic minnow]

Maybe make you use the witches flames

That would be sick asf

[sinful adder]

There are just too many weapons. They can't rework all of them into something interesting

[cosmic minnow]

I wonder what the warbanner of the sun rework will be

[cosmic minnow]

That makes sense

[brisk ore]

maybe turning it into a buff station?

[cosmic minnow]

Fr, I just make fledging wings like pre brain and boom.

[sinful adder]

Aren't they already, via sky chests? Or was that changed

[cosmic minnow]

I rarely find them

and with feathers and clouds you can make em

[mighty zenith]

theyre like a 4% chance now

[cosmic minnow]

Holy….

[mighty zenith]

1.4.4 killed their chance to spawn

[sinful adder]

Dang

[cosmic minnow]

Hold it, will we ever get art of yharim under the mask? Like official?

[sinful adder]

Probably not

[cosmic minnow]

I’ve seen some fire interpretations

[sinful adder]

But it's probably not that far off from Darth Vader

[cosmic minnow]

Oh man…

[gritty kraken]

they’re turning the melee boost into this new “heroic” damage thing from what I’ve heard

[sinful adder]

Lore idea:

How do calamity characters scale to sonic characters

Guess:
Super Sonic beats Fovos but not Xeroc

[brisk ore]

Prime Fovos is most likely stronger than Xeroc

[sinful adder]

No?

[brisk ore]

how is xeroc stronger?

[sinful adder]

Hold on

[brisk ore]

he absorbed the power of dragons who were almost all killed by Fovos

Xeroc has absorbed the power of like one dragon i think

Fovos killed like a thousand

[sinful adder]

Here

[sinful adder]

God ascension grants multiplicative power when attuned

[brisk ore]

how the hell is xeroc so strong?

[sinful adder]

I just answered

[tidal tulip]

i like how yharim (he's attuned but) is stronger than zeratros

[brisk ore]

if he is stronger than prime fovos he can just erase yharim

im pretty sure

[sinful adder]

correct, he easily can

[tidal tulip]

yharim isn't a threat to xeroc or terraria, so that's probably why

like, why xeroc doesn't kill yharim

[sinful adder]

Xeroc probably refuses to interfere with anything happening on terraria

[tidal tulip]

i wonder how yharim's strength made xeroc question his own power

since yharim isn't even 10% of xeroc in terms of power

[brisk ore]

i thought he was only op in WOTG

[sinful adder]

He's even more OP in WOTG

[brisk ore]

there he can do anything in the game world

and even a little in the gamme menu

[gritty kraken]

I just thought that the auric dragons never explored their powers to it fullest

[sinful adder]

In regular calamity, he's strong enough to destroy a continent. In WotG, fake xeroc is strong enough to destroy the universe

[brisk ore]

i read that as exploded their powers at first

[gritty kraken]

💥

[sinful adder]

There is basically an infinite difference in power between "can blow up a continent" and "can change the rules of reality"

That's what people mean

Anyways, power scaling to sonic:

I have a hunch that the power levels involved are similar

[mighty zenith]

how does sonic even scale

[sinful adder]

Um

Let's see...

The final boss of sonic frontiers can destroy a planet in one large attack, with a substantial enough charge up time for a bunch of chaos aliens to escape said planet before then.

Sonic cannot defeat it alone

But can defeat a version that has been weakened with the help of eggman's AI daughter piloting a Kaiju sized mech, or alternatively by trapping it inside that same mech and beating the empowered corrupted mech with eggman's help and extra training

I would say that those mechs (the titans) are probably on par with the exo mechs, and they stomp sonic unless he has the chaos emeralds, then he's stronger and only has to worry about running out of power before he can finish the fight

Hmm. I wonder if any of the lore writers are sonic fans

[mighty zenith]

reb and cei are dragon ball fans so close enough

(i actually dont know if they like sonic

[scenic olive]

crimson glow valstrax vs john wulfrum

[untold oracle]

What if the auric dragons explored each other

[split mortar]

They can be at the ceiling of how strong things can possibly get iirc

[split mortar]

Romance?

[mighty zenith]

🤨

[brisk ore]

this is so fan wiki

[devout grotto]

Wait, fake Xeroc?

[light linden]

Hey so

[devout grotto]

I thought Nameless isn't exactly Xeroc

[cloud ibex]

ND

[light linden]

The astrageldon in catalyst is only a probe right?

[sinful adder]

Hence why I said fake

[devout grotto]

Ah fair enough

[sinful adder]

Nameless deity is based on the old lore's xeroc

[devout grotto]

Oh I'm aware of that

[cloud ibex]

They aren’t Xeroc but they are Xeroc but they’re an older version of Xeroc but they’re not really an older version of Xeroc anymore

[devout grotto]

[cloud ibex]

So officially speaking they’re not Xeroc

[devout grotto]

So uh Xeroc but not really Xeroc

[cloud ibex]

Officially speaking they’re not

[devout grotto]

Yeah true

[mighty zenith]

started as old lore xeroc kind of

became its own thing afterwards

[brisk ore]

Noxus, godless spawn sounds like bullying

poor entropic fella

[light linden]

That fight was weird

[sinful adder]

Who was the power scaling mega nerd (affectionate) here?

[light linden]

I beat it first try a few hours ago but I couldn't tell what was happening in it at all

[brisk ore]

why?

its a pretty cool fight

[sinful adder]

Omni?

[brisk ore]

but kinda easy

[light linden]

I was on death mode without realizing it too

[brisk ore]

yeah

but its pretty funny

especially the portal theme

[light linden]

Tomorrow I'm gonna try Nameless Deity for the first time

[brisk ore]

and the screen break is cool

[brisk ore]

trust me

it is

good

[light linden]

It was disorienting

[brisk ore]

definitely play with music and sounds on

[light linden]

My volume is maxed

Also can I go to the garden again without the fight after winning?

[brisk ore]

yes

[light linden]

Nice

[brisk ore]

kinda

the fight starts when you stand near the tree for a while

[mighty zenith]

yea omni

[cloud ibex]

It’s being entirely reworked

[brisk ore]

you can pass the tree

[light linden]

Ik and I wanted to try it before then

[brisk ore]

it becomes more horror themed ig

[cloud ibex]

Kinda

More just generally the invasion of a collapsing universe’s god into our own I think

[cosmic minnow]

I recommend, very fun experience

But also hard for starters

[brisk ore]

just use exo box

helps to avoid all of that straight flying

[cosmic minnow]

That kinda kills the difficulty, tbh but true (I used exo box as well for one specific attack)

[brisk ore]

the laser wall during phase 2?

like the punch that summons the laser lattice

[cosmic minnow]

No, the thing right after it breaks your rage and adrenaline

[light linden]

?

[cloud ibex]

depends on what you mean by a probe

[light linden]

It was a piece of the main mass that was sent into our universe to check for more stuff to eat

[cloud ibex]

i'm not too versed in catalore

[brisk ore]

the slashes?

oh no

[light linden]

Is the mod still being developed anymore?

[brisk ore]

the other one

yeah i get what youre talking about

[brisk ore]

imagine the main body of astrageldon

[light linden]

I read it was supposed to get new bosses but idk how old that was

[brisk ore]

i think there at least might be new whips and flamethrowers

[mighty zenith]

yeah it is

the main dev just went on break for a bit

[light linden]

HotOG is supposedly getting another post scal boss as well right?

[untold oracle]

I find the attack fun (with exo chair I can’t do it without lol)

[cosmic minnow]

Same

[frank dune]

Thats why hover exists

Though cal devs dont know what is that

[scenic olive]

but who would actually won tho

[brisk ore]

idk about mh monsters you console gamers so idk

he looks like a dragon so definitely john wulfrum

[cloud ibex]

john wulfrum isn't real so valstrax wins

[split mortar]

On the highest end monster hunter guys could fight or even beat Xeroc iirc from omni rants

Now idfk if valstrax is among that level though

[cloud ibex]

base game rise valstrax is, like, the last monster you "unlock"

sunbreak i forget i think he's, like, halfway through the postgame monster unlocks

but he also has a supercharged variant you can fight REALLY late into the postgame

[river python]

Very fun battle

Use exo-chair

[sudden ruin]

boooo

no exo chair

[river python]

If you have the Alchemist Mod installed You should use the discord potion

[pliant ruin]

alchemist mod :(

[river python]

The attacks are very easy in the first phase, for the blackhole just run away and use the mirror to teleport to the start to can dodge it

[mighty zenith]

mirror cheese :(

[untold oracle]

The setup I use allows getting ND to phase 2 before they even get to use the black hole

[river python]

What class you are using?

[untold oracle]

Alchemistnpc is stupidly op how you can get free 2 dodges with blurring and ninja potions

[untold oracle]

Ranger

With contagion

That + demonshade enraged gives an easy ~130k dps iirc

[delicate willow]

Finished reading lore doc

[untold oracle]

Congrats!

[delicate willow]

Is there nothing about the origin of the wulfrum machines

[untold oracle]

Yeah at the very end

With their bestiary

They are basically simple machines made to inconvenience Yharmy

[delicate willow]

Yeah the thing is

By whom ❓

[untold oracle]

I believe it’s rebels

Not necessarily god worshipers

But Yharim out of all probably has a lot of people disagreeing with him

[pliant ruin]

john wulfrum

[gritty kraken]

Do y’all think they sold brimrose perfume back when azafure was a thing

[untold oracle]

^

[untold oracle]

I really believe this

[hushed geyser]

Probably smelled like fire

[cloud ibex]

considering cal says she actually likes the smell of brimstone probably

[sinful adder]

Maybe brimstone isn't sulphur in calamity

[untold oracle]

It might be outdated

[untold oracle]

No it is not

[sinful adder]

The sulphuric sea isn't the brimstone sea, after all

Then I wonder what brimstone is

[untold oracle]

Like if Cal has PTSD from Azafure it wouldn’t make sense if she likes the smell that reminds of that place

I really like the line though

Calgarden

[cloud ibex]

i imagine that after she moves in she makes her own little garden to keep herself occupied

[untold oracle]

That is exactly what I was thinking of

The terrarian and Cal become gardeners :3

[wheat walrus]

What the wulfrum

[wheat walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/valstrax-crimson-glow-valstrax-rocket-dragon-jet-dragon-monster-hunter-gif-16082336344847160895

[untold oracle]

Wulfrum expansion: gyrator

[wheat walrus]

Valstrax scaling when it wildly changes between regular Valstrax and Crimson Glow Valstrax

[untold oracle]

Omni who wins, fatalis or meeeee :3

[hushed geyser]

Me

I am super metvox

[wheat walrus]

[glacial rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-super-vegeta-i'd-win-dbz-super-saiyan-gif-2239383979342381802

[untold oracle]

I know it’s a little unfair…

[mighty zenith]

fartalis sweep

[gritty kraken]

Picturing a scene where she use that perfume and every other npc in the room got their lungs damned

[untold oracle]

Why would it do that

[gritty kraken]

Idk

[untold oracle]

What do demon heart and celestial onion even do?

Give you a larger belt?

[hoary berry]

My only explanation for them is specific to one of my OCs

I haven’t really considered a general explanation yet

[frozen zodiac]

didnt someone here once propose that accesories are more like spells than physical upgrades

[faint plank]

yeah i see it that way too
and demon heart and onion just let magic flow trough your character more effectively so you are actually capable of taking full advantage of the extra accesories benefits

[untold oracle]

I think it depends on accessory

[frozen zodiac]

what's the tactical advantage of equipping 8 different gloves

[untold oracle]

For example we have draedon’s heart (ik it’s prolly not canon but I can see it working lorewise) which is likely just a heart implant, things like quivers and shields are exactly that, but things like community for example would work as spells

[faint plank]

i mean yeah
you can equip them but not get the benefits if u dont got the power to wield their magic (vanity slots)

[untold oracle]

Yeah I think most accessories have magical properties

[untold oracle]

Okay yeah this works out quite well

[silent crane]

I drew Mechalamitas

[untold oracle]

Ooh can we see it?

[silent crane]

Of course

[untold oracle]

Oh cool

Would that bow be a weapon you can get

(Also melon is writing a book )

[split mortar]

The way I headcanon it is
The body and soul are both used to let accessories work specifically for you and give their buffs

Demon heart is them replacing most of the flesh hurriedly to stave off the god essence infecting them from its death releasing said essence and so their body also gets better at letting the accessories attune to the soul and flow the buffs around that the soul is the bottleneck

Then celestial onion is them using fovos power to construct them a replacement soul since their body is dying thanks to fovos targeting and destroying their soul, this makes it more distinct and strong meaning it won’t bottleneck the ability for accessories to work (vanity accessories would thus be one’s not attuned to you)

[split mortar]

Shush

[untold oracle]

Oh yeah the terrarian of theseus

[silent crane]

Her attacks

[untold oracle]

Wasn’t mechal supposed to be pre-hm?

[faint plank]

sorta like a mix between calclone and calshadow

[silent crane]

the pictures are laid out in reverse order-_-

[split mortar]

Right yeah, forgot y’all call my terrarian similiar to the boat of thesueus

[silent crane]

mechal is pre-WoF boss

[split mortar]

Could be a superboss like geldon idk

[hushed geyser]

Its not a boat

Its a ship

Smh

[split mortar]

It’s float on water
Same thing

[wheat walrus]

unsure if highest end here is accurate

[silent crane]

Defeating her is the point at which Draedon begins to watch the player.

[hushed geyser]

So a piece of wood is a boat

And a ship

[split mortar]

Small unshaped and impractical one I guess

[hushed geyser]

So basically not a ship

[split mortar]

(Idfk the actual definitions)

[hushed geyser]

[hushed geyser]

Same

Too lazy to google

[split mortar]

Also this you?