lore-discussion

[pliant ruin]

with a feral amalgamation

[light linden]

and if you go to the center of the biome to escape the toxic gas

[wheat walrus]

also bloodstalker jumpscare

seriously though those fuckers suddenly grabbing you into those giant trees is horrendous

[untold oracle]

The stpuid bug!

[split mortar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1027167403324493884/1303861249766850590/makesweet-470ntc.gif

[untold oracle]

Stop talking about ark

[wheat walrus]

like you're on the ground and suddenly they grab you from giant tree and kidnap you from wherever you were

[light linden]

this lovely thing will grab you from miles above you, drain out all of your blood, and if you somehow survive the exsanguination they'll drop you from so high up you'll become a slurry when you hit the ground

[wheat walrus]

yea

jokes aside why are the bog trees so fucking gargantuan like holy shit

[light linden]

you wanna hear something worse?

xenomorph t rex

[wheat walrus]

I have not bothered to measure them but there's actual small islands forming in those

[wheat walrus]

yea

[light linden]

they dig underground and are very quiet

[split mortar]

Nah that’s not as bad

Still wtf

[light linden]

until a queen grabs you

[wheat walrus]

lmao

[noble niche]

Here's a good one, could omni man kill yharim?

[light linden]

depends

[wheat walrus]

probably

[split mortar]

Pretty sure omni man is like continental

[light linden]

can he touch auric without being repulsed?

[split mortar]

So a more fair fight might be xeroc

[wheat walrus]

byea I like these giant trees

[noble niche]

Xeroc is like god from the Bible he not winning

[split mortar]

He would be able to resist it due to being so strong, like braelor

[cloud ibex]

they very much are not

[split mortar]

That’s nameless deity
Xeroc different

[split mortar]

Xeroc is just the god of the sun

(Below moon level)

[light linden]

melon btw

[split mortar]

Wha

[light linden]

if you haven't heard ark's ost you need to

[noble niche]

I don't think the sun would have trouble steamrolling omni man

[light linden]

all of the boss themes at least are amazing

[untold oracle]

No they’re the same

[noble niche]

(It might take a while to warm up tho)

[wheat walrus]

overseer my beloved

[untold oracle]

Nameless Xeroc

[light linden]

my favorite is the king titan theme

[wheat walrus]

yea it's cool

I love the genesis lunar biome

it looks so cool

my favorite part is how some of the bigger island things have caves in them and you can make bases in those

[noble niche]

What's that from?

[split mortar]

Ark

[wheat walrus]

ark: genesis part 1 dlc

[light linden]

yeah but going back to rockwell prime for a minute

best way I can describe him

[wheat walrus]

also my favorite detail is how meteor showers can come from both above and below, that's scary ngl

[noble niche]

Oh, I have that one but I keep uninstalling ark cause of the 200 gigabytes

[wheat walrus]

understandable lol

gigantic ass game

[noble niche]

I think my favorite map was fjordur

I liked the giant bats they were fun

[cloud ibex]

western game dev has been here

[wheat walrus]

true

[split mortar]

Xeroc vs the king Titan guy

[pliant ruin]

king titan is literally like

colossal

like

bro is bigger than the devourer

[light linden]

He can create and alter creatures at will like Draedon's plague, has control of essentially two planets, has a creature designed to enslave others to his will, and his very flesh is so tough that you have to use specialized tech to even wound him

[light linden]

issue

[pliant ruin]

im p sure

[light linden]

even if xeroc is stupid powerful

[robust torrent]

are the wrath of the gods bosses weaker than yharim?

[pliant ruin]

the wrath of god bosses are not real

[mighty zenith]

no lol

[pliant ruin]

they're fanmade

[light linden]

he can't touch the king titan unless he removes his armor

[wheat walrus]

both wotg bosses would stomp all of calamity

[mighty zenith]

even if they were, nameless is like

god itself

[split mortar]

Yharim isn’t out

And in lore they’re like idfk much stronger

[mighty zenith]

and noxus idfk but definitely way stronger

[split mortar]

Namelesss deity is like actually omnipotent

[untold oracle]

They aren’t canon but ND is literally capital G omnipotent god

[robust torrent]

amazing

[cloud ibex]

i think AoE is supposed to be about the same as ND

[split mortar]

I mean, ND is post avatar

[cloud ibex]

or at least, based on my limited understanding that would make sense

[mighty zenith]

satan and god type shit?

[cloud ibex]

well i believe Avatar is like

[split mortar]

I think ND is completely immortal and avatar is pissed at that from what little I know?

[cloud ibex]

god from another, separate dying universe trying to invade yours

[mighty zenith]

dam

[light linden]

Doesn't matter how powerful whatever Xeroc throws at him is, if the King Titan's armor is on and isn't being sapped he can't be touched

[light linden]

what is AoE?

[cloud ibex]

there was a chart iban posted on twitter(?) once

[split mortar]

Avatar of emptieness

Replacing noxus

[light linden]

oh

[split mortar]

Yeah I saw

[cloud ibex]

ND was categorized as something like home universe, living universe while AoE is the opposite end

[split mortar]

Can the guy die to being thrown in space

[cloud ibex]

Forgotten Avatar of Emptiness

[light linden]

probably not

in reality the king titan is living metal

they don't need to eat or breathe

[wheat walrus]

alr last thing on ark

astrum deus whale

[pliant ruin]

astrum deus whale

[split mortar]

Just throw it so far away it can’t get back to earth and forever fly’s away in space

[light linden]

those things are so damn pretty

[light linden]

bad idea

[wheat walrus]

I like astrocetus ngl

so sad it's not really useful outside of maybe pvp

[light linden]

element comes from space

[light linden]

incorrect

you know the king titan fight right?

[wheat walrus]

huh what did they do

[light linden]

you can cheese gamma and beta king titan with it

[wheat walrus]

what the shrigma I didn't know that actually

[light linden]

he can't hit the astrocetus if you fly far enough above him

and since they don't need stamina to fly

they can stay up there indefinitely

[wheat walrus]

while you rain down fuckall

lmao

fair

[split mortar]

Why

[light linden]

@split mortar

[split mortar]

Ohhh

[wheat walrus]

yea element comes from somewhere in space

it came to earth with a meteor

[light linden]

also

I love astrodelphis

[wheat walrus]

iirc it's implied that other planets have been fucked up by element too

[wheat walrus]

I like it but not as much as astrocetus

[light linden]

also

[pliant ruin]

ark discussion

[light linden]

fun fact, you turn these things into high tech ac-130s

[light linden]

and you turn these things into high tech fighter jets

[wheat walrus]

yea

[light linden]

oh also omni

[split mortar]

Can we like

Blow up noxus

[wheat walrus]

wha

[light linden]

did you know you can build on an astrocetus?

[wheat walrus]

yea

[pliant ruin]

ark discussion

[wheat walrus]

there's a small platform thingy

[light linden]

like physically?

[split mortar]

I think cheese is getting bored of ark discussion

[split mortar]

Explode them style

[light linden]

idk

[cloud ibex]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kRJCWi79ZSkqOyrG2mo8_CTqC041kygWhuURIZaFxPI/edit?usp=sharing i cast topic flashbang

(still unfinished

[split mortar]

Pretty good, I like

I wonder how the stranger deals with yharminarm

[dusk laurel]

Yharnam but fucked up

[split mortar]

Yharim but still fucked up and still evil

[dusk laurel]

(It's been fucked up, it's Fromsoft of course it would be)

[split mortar]

(Fromsoft try to make a normal and not sad place)

[dusk laurel]

Would Yharnam be a moldy world

No I will not explain what that means

[split mortar]

Covered by astral infection, simple

[cloud ibex]

i'm not entirely sure yet

i think a slightly funny direction could be Yharim spending the entire fight trying to convince them that they have to take up the mantle and do everything they can to try and take down Xeroc

after the fight Yharim says something like "my life may be lost, but i can rest easily knowing that the torch will be carried on... won't it, friend?"

and the Stranger just goes "man i don't fuckin know i don't live here, ask literally anyone who actually does"

[split mortar]

Pfft

Has not been listening the entire time

[stoic gulch]

WHY MELON GUN

[split mortar]

HEHEHE

[dusk laurel]

What's going on

[split mortar]

Read this it’s good I think

[split mortar]

Dragged skelli from addon chat to lore chat

[dusk laurel]

[cloud ibex]

read this as well it's actually finished as opposed to the draedon one

[fierce pagoda]

Do you think there is a connection between onotilou and the constant electircal charge of auric bars/ore?

[light linden]

idts

auric ore likely was a thing before the dragon of storms had their soul

[dusk laurel]

Both could originate from the world soul

One is a draconic-related ore that spawns from the death of an auric dragon

The other is from the powers of one of the said dragons

[untold oracle]

[fierce pagoda]

Connect that pumpking to the auric dragons

[random mulch]

reposting my DoG cause yeah

[sleek halo]

that’s aweome

[random mulch]

according triangle sepulcher is meant to be a mockery of DoG sorta so i have the bastard arms

[sleek halo]

So..

if that is accurate

Scal decided she wanted to mock dog

[random mulch]

apparently she hates DoG (justified)

[sleek halo]

I do not imagine them having pleasant interactions

[random mulch]

also i just wanted to mess with the idea of the distortion being some eldritch nightmare realm

[sleek halo]

is his

is that

stitches?

brother got a sewed on face

[random mulch]

was messing around with his scar but it kinda ended up just looking like a closed eye so i added those things

might just not have a scar, might use stitches to play into the fact that he isnt natural

[hybrid barn]

I think another way could be to almost make it look ripped or cracked in some way, but that works too!

[random mulch]

normal serpents have only 1 pair of arms and actually have eyes

[light linden]

question

[random mulch]

ye?

[light linden]

what kind of god do y'all think an auric soul of toxins would create?

[sleek halo]

Depends

[random mulch]

would there even be an auric soul of toxins or is that kinda too specific

[sleek halo]

i mean

nothing to say they couldn’t have specific domains

[light linden]

we had an auric dragon of light and fire

[hybrid barn]

There was an auric dragon of storms, so I'd say it fits

[light linden]

those aren't exactly non-specific

[random mulch]

the resulting god (if imperfect) is usually some kind of derivative of the original auric soul

what would a derivative of toxin be that isnt just a form of toxin

[hybrid barn]

Radiation?

[random mulch]

radiation is a form of light

[sleek halo]

Waste, poison, n stuff

[hybrid barn]

Ah shoot, fair

[random mulch]

poison is toxins

[light linden]

my guess would be a god of pollution

[sleek halo]

poison is a part of it

[random mulch]

poisons are a blend of toxins

[hybrid barn]

Could be a god of decay or something, but that might be too close to the Ravager's original form

[split mortar]

God of disease?

[random mulch]

god of decay could work

[sleek halo]

feel like there’d honestly be a dragon fornthat

[split mortar]

Ravager is sacrifice, that’s fine

[light linden]

personally I think decay would fit death more

[random mulch]

toxins can induce things like necrosis

[split mortar]

^

You’re body literally decaying while you alive

Death can fit but who’s to say toxin Doesn’t fit either

[sleek halo]

[hybrid barn]

That's why I was worried decay could be too close to original Ravager, since I believe the god of sacrifice half was born from the death dragon's soul

[sleek halo]

i’m gonna assume he meant rot

[sleek halo]

Yeah

GoS came from DoD

[split mortar]

Ravager is the god of sacrifice and ascended with dragon of deaths soul

[random mulch]

would still say that sacrifice and decay are far enough apart

[sleek halo]

yeah

[split mortar]

Ye

[split mortar]

No, toxin

[sleek halo]

ah

[hybrid barn]

But yeah! And it could be kind of fun too, since it'd fit into my initial idea of a god of radiation, where it's domain would basically just be completely uninhabitable except by the most simple and resistant organisms

And I know the Slime God is a thing, but it'd be kind of cool if that's where slimes originated, before becoming more widespread around the world

[split mortar]

Slime god is a thing cause slimes were prevalent and a symbol for gluttony I’m pretty sure

[heady vapor]

Can Subaru from Re:Zero beat SCal?

Yes

Is he gonna die a lot?

Yes

[hybrid barn]

Ahh okay, so yeah, that could be fun! Like, creatures that were born to evolve around pretty much any environmental factors, but aren't particularly strong on their own since in their home environment, they wouldn't have many powerful predators

[heady vapor]

Like Crabulon?

[random mulch]

i dont think anything wants to eat a rotting corpse

[heady vapor]

I do

[hybrid barn]

Maybe! I don't know much about Crabulon's physiology

[random mulch]

not like fresh dead or something, crabulon's been dead for like a decade

[heady vapor]

Crab

That’s it

[hybrid barn]

valid point

[heady vapor]

You gotta do what you gotta do man

[random mulch]

dead crab being controlled by a parasitic fungus

[heady vapor]

With a banger ass boss theme

[random mulch]

love the contrast between the kinda morbid concept of the boss and the funkiest boss music known to man

[heady vapor]

So since Yharon is the Dragon of Rebirth, what powers does he have?

[random mulch]

bringing dragons back from the dead

[heady vapor]

Can he do it to himself

[light linden]

I still wanna expand on my concept of a dragon of decay that lead to a god of fungus

[random mulch]

yeah

[light linden]

yes

[heady vapor]

Oh

So he has Return by Death

Amazing

[split mortar]

Takes a decade but yeah can rebirth infinitley

[light linden]

perfect necromancy which only he can do for one

[heady vapor]

Oh

[light linden]

he has some control over fire and lightning too

[heady vapor]

Lame

[heady vapor]

I know fire, but lightning???

[light linden]

it's future stuff

[split mortar]

I think also the ability to completely regen at the cost of his current life, since they plan to add that back

[heady vapor]

Like in his phase 2?

[light linden]

you know the dragonfolly's electric attacks?

[heady vapor]

Yeah

[light linden]

yharon is supposed to get that

[split mortar]

Yeah that will be back to a full heal thing

[random mulch]

reason you get soul fragments is him literally eating away at his own soul to stay alive and try and kill you

[hybrid barn]

But anyways, this could also further explain blighted slimes maybe, how slimes would grow more powerful under the influence of not just deific essence, but specifically rotting deific essence, it'd just be their old home all over again

[heady vapor]

Dragonfolly is basically the Yharon version to the Profaned Guardians

[split mortar]

Yeah yharon fights so hard to protect yharim their soul gets damaged slightly

[light linden]

issue is though

[heady vapor]

Like based off a stronger boss

[random mulch]

dragonfolly and yharon are not that similar anymore

dragonfolly being a yharon clone is really old

[heady vapor]

They still have the towers

That trap you in

I think

[heady vapor]

That’s why he wants to die?

[random mulch]

probably a remnant from when dragonfolly was still a clone

[light linden]

we don't know if all dragons had similar abilities to control fire and lightning to an extent or what

[split mortar]

Jared can control lightning so maybe?

[light linden]

personally I doubt it

[heady vapor]

Like when DOG was Destroyer, Cal was Eye, and Plauge was Bee?

They still haven’t fixed Ravenger

[light linden]

can't normal eidolon wyrms do that too?

[random mulch]

i meant clone as in lore

[split mortar]

Plague bringer is still bee

[hybrid barn]

Plague is still a bee, so it works

[random mulch]

dragonfolly was a genetic clone at one point but that's old lore

[split mortar]

Just heavily more modified looking

[heady vapor]

But like Plauge shoots fucking missiles

[brave dew]

Bee

[split mortar]

Yeah

[heady vapor]

I know in the lore that Plauge is a bee

And Dreadon made em

[light linden]

that's draedon's augmentation

[brave dew]

Bee fucking missiles

[random mulch]

PBG is a melted mess of a bee in metal armor

[heady vapor]

Bro made a amalgam from Undertale

™️

[hybrid barn]

Technically at least, he made the plague that infected a Queen Bee

[brave dew]

Bee 🥰

[random mulch]

so heavily affected by the plague nanovirus that it's just goop

[split mortar]

Yea

[heady vapor]

Didn’t Dreadon ALSO make the Exo’s AND the Sea?

[spring helm]

Made the sea radioactive

[hybrid barn]

Beautiful creatures

[random mulch]

draedon isnt 100% responsible for the sulphurous sea

[heady vapor]

Like why it’s radiating

[split mortar]

He did make exos

Sulphuric sea was always stinky he just threw in some uranium

[brave dew]

Thats not a fucking bee

[random mulch]

it was already polluted by azafure's fumes

[brave dew]

Fucking

[heady vapor]

Bro MIGHT be Yharim

[spring helm]

Not just uranium lmao bro threw away active warheads too

[light linden]

reminds me of this

[heady vapor]

So he was like “Minds well”

[hybrid barn]

It's a bumblebee!

[random mulch]

yeah

[heady vapor]

Damn

He a bitch

His theme still slaps

[random mulch]

already a polluted mess so cant hurt to throw away a couple active warheads

[brave dew]

It's a fucking biblebeee not bee

[heady vapor]

What part of the world was SCal’s fault

[brave dew]

Like the car

[random mulch]

ilmeris

[heady vapor]

The sea?

[brave dew]

Bee not car

[random mulch]

an entire civilization burned to sand

[hybrid barn]

Gasp
Biblebee

[random mulch]

the sunken sea we have now is only the remnants of what it once was

it used to be closer to the surface

[light linden]

illmeris getting vaporized and it was half her fault that azafure got levelled

[heady vapor]

So she’s responsible for Sunken sea, the desert, the Scourges?

[random mulch]

also that

not the desert because it was already there

[spring helm]

She wasn’t as good back then so she needed to tag team the city

[random mulch]

she did make the underground desert bigger tho

[split mortar]

She is responsible for the underground desert not being filled with water

[hybrid barn]

Just one Scourge

[strange stump]

beeutiful

[random mulch]

the scourge is more indirect

[heady vapor]

So she’s why it’s a fucking maze down there

[hybrid barn]

I think it would be anyways, but it'd be less sandy

[heady vapor]

And what about the sea under the sea?

[random mulch]

the abyss?

[split mortar]

Yeah it’s water caves that fit suddenly dried then overrun with antlions

[random mulch]

natural formation

[brave dew]

You question the word of the mighty ??!! Jimmy !!!

[heady vapor]

Oh

[random mulch]

also the goddess of life is comatose at the bottom and slowly reforming

[split mortar]

The abyss is like the Mariana Trench, deep af drop in the water

And is natural

[heady vapor]

Wait so DOG (was) allies of Yharon, Yharon and Yharim are linked, Dreadon (was) his scientist, and SCal (was) his biggest weapon?

[random mulch]

DoG helped yharim but i wouldnt call DoG loyal to him

[heady vapor]

Damn this whole thing is dealing with Yharims mess

Fuck him

[random mulch]

noxus is still canon and is DoG's boss

[split mortar]

Yeah

[heady vapor]

Oh bc of the Teleporting?

[brave dew]

Bro might be yharim

[hybrid barn]

Also, on the brief topic of Silva, I've gotta give her some respect for basically being the sole goddess ensuring that Yharim would never be able to kill all gods within his lifetime, even if he ever got strong enough to face Xeroc

[split mortar]

(Providence and slime god are unrelated to yharim)

[random mulch]

DoG is stated to be loyal to someone else and to be a bit unnatural compared to storm weaver

[brave dew]

M...

[brave dew]

Bro might be dog

[split mortar]

Yharim would be willing to kill himself to kill her so… big maybe on that

[heady vapor]

So lemme get this straight, Sigis, Void and storm work under DOG, DOG works under Noxus, and Noxus works under Xeroc?

[random mulch]

they dont work under DoG

[split mortar]

They don’t work for dog

[heady vapor]

Huh???

[random mulch]

noxus also doesnt work under xeroc

[split mortar]

That’s old lore

[brave dew]

Theyre not sentinels anymore

[mighty zenith]

them being DoG's sentinels is outdated yeah

[heady vapor]

I swear to god

[brave dew]

Now instead they have this shitty old poopy name

The distortion trio

[hybrid barn]

Sure, but the fact that she's the only god in existence who'd force him to do so regardless of his power is pretty funny

[random mulch]

noxus is an entirely unrelated force to xeroc

[brave dew]

Blerh

[split mortar]

Yeah if anything Noxus is hiding from Xeroc cause Xeroc wants to kill them

[mighty zenith]

sentinels of the distortion

[random mulch]

even yharim is absolutely terrified at the idea of noxus

[heady vapor]

But doesn’t Void take you to where DOG lives?

Or like his original world?

[random mulch]

yeah, the distortion

[heady vapor]

Later

[split mortar]

Void is a portal

It’s an object

[mighty zenith]

yeah but DoG doesnt own the place

Void is older than him

[brave dew]

Thats too long and if i just say sentinels the lore people are gonna be like uhhhhmmmm actually theyre not sentinels anymore in the lore so errm youre wrong actually actually 🤓🤓

[heady vapor]

So I got fucked up by a portal

[random mulch]

more likely that DoG was somehow made by noxus to gather divine essence

[heady vapor]

I hate this games lore

[split mortar]

Got fucked up by a self defence seal put on the portal

[hybrid barn]

Y'know, I wonder if there was ever a dragon/god of evolution

[heady vapor]

So I got my shit rocked by a NERFED portal

[heady vapor]

That’s Super Mario

[brave dew]

I loved this games lore until the moment the sentinels were no longer sentinels hence i couldnt use the name "sentinels" anymore

[mighty zenith]

more like buffed portal

[random mulch]

to quote yharim himself
"Its eerie persistence gnawed at my mind. It did not just threaten me. It threatened everyone. Everything."

[mighty zenith]

the self defense seal is the thing beating you up

so that you dont open the portal

the portal itself is harmless

[random mulch]

he's fucking terrified of the fact that the rift exists at all

[heady vapor]

I

Hate this lore

[mighty zenith]

the cultists just really did not want things to come out of there

[dusk laurel]

That would be under the domain of life iirc

[heady vapor]

I think I understand smth

[brave dew]

Then why when you beat the seld defense thing you still cant enter the portal ?

[hybrid barn]

Oh yeaahhh, that makes sense!

[heady vapor]

And suddenly it’s nothing

[split mortar]

The portal is a extremely strong source of energy for the self defence seal tbh

[mighty zenith]

something something gameplay

[random mulch]

you're probably just clinging onto old lore too much

[heady vapor]

In a future update you can go in

I think

[split mortar]

There’s a doc in the pins if you want to read all the lore in one spot

[brave dew]

I wanna enter Ceaseless Void !!!!!!! 😡

[heady vapor]

I read it

[split mortar]

Yeah

[heady vapor]

It gave me a heart attack

[split mortar]

Oh

[random mulch]

forget everything from before the lore rewrite

[mighty zenith]

thats not healthy i think

[split mortar]

That’s certainly a reaction

[mighty zenith]

anyway yeah the best way to look at the current lore is

a completley blank slate

[heady vapor]

Ok

[mighty zenith]

ignore everything from old lore

[heady vapor]

Lemme try

[spring helm]

Who is this calamitous creature

[mighty zenith]

and just take it like a completely new piece of media

[random mulch]

gunk zero

[hybrid barn]

Also yeah, it probably doesn't help that there's a bunch of outdated lore stuff that became a part of common knowledge before it became outdated, and because of the lengths of times between certain updates, there's still some remnants of that in the mod

[random mulch]

if you dont kill it in time the warhead explodes

[light linden]

I can't lie

[hybrid barn]

Acid rain enemy

[spring helm]

Ffs Draedon

[light linden]

I hope ceaseless void gets reworked

[mighty zenith]

jell-o in my fridge sitting in the back for 300 days and nights

[spring helm]

Why is there an active nuke in a slime

[random mulch]

same

ceaseless void's fight is super clunky

[split mortar]

Yeah, like signus being named “signus, envoy of the devourer”

[light linden]

I can't tell how the hell to dodge it half the time

[brave dew]

I want CV to open up and make us able to enter the distortion

[hybrid barn]

It probably will with its redesign

[random mulch]

like signus

[mighty zenith]

i think signus deserves a rework the most out of the sentinels

[split mortar]

Why not

[mighty zenith]

but he's already confirmed to get one so

[brave dew]

Or wherever the portals make us go

[mighty zenith]

void should get one next

weaver is... okay currently

could also use a rework but im fine with him being the last one

[light linden]

signus is the one they have the least about reworking

[hybrid barn]

I think Weaver also has a rework in the concept station

[random mulch]

weaver's nothing exceptional but it's better than the other 2

[light linden]

all we have is an animation of him pulling a sword out

[mighty zenith]

yea

[brave dew]

All of the sentinels are getting reworked

[random mulch]

signus' resprite looks awesome

[brave dew]

Thats great

[mighty zenith]

weaver is just fine, the others are bad

[fading helm]

holy hell

that is amazing

[mighty zenith]

signus is basically a fucking example boss in terms of ai

[light linden]

personally I hate the face of it

[mighty zenith]

i love it

[brave dew]

I gotta agree that the others are
bad

[mighty zenith]

its super creepy and fucked up

[hybrid barn]

Honestly, I'm just excited for phase 3, because that looks sick already!

[random mulch]

it still has the same face as always, a bunch of teeth

[dusk laurel]

It will

[mighty zenith]

it looks a bit less like several pairs of eyes but i still like it

[spring helm]

They should resprite DoG again

Just because

[mighty zenith]

they should resprite you

[light linden]

I think it looks the best when it's just blank but you can see its monstrous face when it starts rushing you

[dusk laurel]

Why blank

[random mulch]

you mean another one from this?

[fading helm]

DoG should go back to his OG sprite

go full circle

[dusk laurel]

No

[random mulch]

no

[split mortar]

No purple destroyer

[spring helm]

Yeah

It looks great

[fading helm]

The people (me) demand purple destroyer

[light linden]

gives it a bit more eerieness and then jumps to being scary

[fading helm]

btw

[spring helm]

But they should resprite DoG every update

[random mulch]

i like it but i think they should've pushed farther

[fading helm]

where you all see this new resprites

from signus

[hybrid barn]

Twitter

[mighty zenith]

it was teased a while back on the cal twitter and i think in #mod-announcements

[random mulch]

hey look it's ravager

[mighty zenith]

its one of the oldest currently public sprites

[mighty zenith]

YESSSSSSSSS

[brave dew]

Guys does the world has a soul

[mighty zenith]

mango's ravager my beloved

[random mulch]

used to apparently

[light linden]

had

[mighty zenith]

so fucking COOL

[light linden]

still can't wait for this

[fading helm]

it exploded

[random mulch]

rework is gonna be peak

[light linden]

I hate the current ravager fight

[fading helm]

but yes it used to have one

[spring helm]

Look at that waist

[light linden]

the pillars do nothing but block my shots

[dusk laurel]

Everyone does

[mighty zenith]

fucked up gorilla <3

[brave dew]

Wtf is that spider thing

[fading helm]

I like ravager fight

[random mulch]

he's gonna have an entire cathedral

[split mortar]

Maybe, we don’t know if it entirely is gone or like 1% of it

[random mulch]

the exception

[fading helm]

[split mortar]

Ravager phase 1

[mighty zenith]

no you don't

[fading helm]

yes I do

[random mulch]

the anomaly has been located

[split mortar]

You know a boss is bad when Garbo dislikes it

[fading helm]

I love all the bosses tbh

[mighty zenith]

[split mortar]

The supreme stinker

[hybrid barn]

Ravager crab, my beloved

[mighty zenith]

the fuck is that supposed to mean..........

[split mortar]

[random mulch]

current aureus isnt a bad fight tbh

[fading helm]

which one

[random mulch]

but i'm very excited for the rework

[split mortar]

I know, just messing with them

[mighty zenith]

i think it's the best grounded boss i've ever fought tbh

one of the better cal bosses currently

[hybrid barn]

Astrum

[random mulch]

aureus is gonna get inverse kinematics so it can actually interact with terrain

[split mortar]

WHAR

[mighty zenith]

still not perfect obviously but it's pretty unique and has fun strategies

[split mortar]

HUH

WHE

SIU

[mighty zenith]

yeah i remember that

[split mortar]

NICD

[mighty zenith]

it's gonna be so fucking peak

[split mortar]

nice

[fading helm]

alr melon calm down

articulate

[hybrid barn]

Huh!
...what's that mean?

[split mortar]

Perish

[mighty zenith]

robot built for terrain can actually properly scale terrain

[random mulch]

its legs will have joints

it can actually crawl on the terrain

[hybrid barn]

Wooaahhh, sick!

[mighty zenith]

ok so u know how spiders move and climb around right

[spring helm]

Crazy

[brave dew]

Guys does corruption crimson and hallowed has souls ?

[fading helm]

https://tenor.com/view/toji-toji-fushiguro-death-bloody-died-standing-gif-769732690373477383

[mighty zenith]

well thats how its gonna actually look like moving around

instead of just

[brave dew]

AGAGAGAGAGAGAG

[split mortar]

But that is also peak

[mighty zenith]

(i hate this run animation btw it looks so fucking dumb)

[spring helm]

💥

[split mortar]

That’s why it’s great

[mighty zenith]

it makes him look like a crab and i hate it

[random mulch]

imagine if aureus could use its legs to hit the ground and spray debris

[mighty zenith]

he's not a crab
crabs are like

lame

(affectionate)

[brave dew]

Liar

[split mortar]

HWISVDHEB!!

[brave dew]

Astrum aureus is crab

[split mortar]

Oh

[hybrid barn]

...yooouuuu take that ba-

[split mortar]

Nvm

[hybrid barn]

Okay, you're pardoned

[mighty zenith]

crabs are silly cool

not cool cool

and i want aureus to be cool cool

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-crab-knife-mg-excelsus-gif-26926901

[random mulch]

old duke is gonna be a banger resprite

[split mortar]

Ya

[brave dew]

Scari 😨

[fading helm]

dang

[mighty zenith]

fucked up wyvern

[hybrid barn]

Honestly, that is fair, its animation does look pretty silly!

[fading helm]

ig it does look more like a dragon

[spring helm]

Look at that smile

[split mortar]

Orios have you updated this or is this still accurate

[fading helm]

but lowkey i think i prefer more duke ogs design

[random mulch]

also slime god is becoming even more of a goober

[fading helm]

the current one

[brave dew]

British od

[dusk laurel]

Accurate so far

[mighty zenith]

i mean the current one is just moldy duke fishron

[split mortar]

Eh new one more lore accurate

[dusk laurel]

No new sprites have been shown yet

[mighty zenith]

which does not reflect old duke well

[brave dew]

Current one is just brown duke fishron

[spring helm]

What the heck is going on with the nuclear terror

Red?

[dusk laurel]

Chaotic energies

[fading helm]

that is just how I imagine an old ahh fish tho

[split mortar]

It’s a living nuclear meltdown

[mighty zenith]

he's meant to be like
if a dinosaur lived alongside its descendants

[hybrid barn]

Reminds me of when people, even other devs, were poking fun at Triangle always adding crooked grins to his fish designs, so he confirmed that some of them got reredesigned

[fading helm]

hm true

[mighty zenith]

and currently he's just grandpa duke

[split mortar]

Old duke is so old it’s species evolved

[dusk laurel]

It's a dragon not a fish

[mighty zenith]

which is SIGNIFICANTLY less cool

[fading helm]

isnt he only like

1k years

smth like that

[dusk laurel]

No

Older

[fading helm]

1001

[dusk laurel]

Older

[mighty zenith]

he's from around the time when auric dragons were still being born

[fading helm]

1002

[dusk laurel]

Try again

[split mortar]

Old duke is older then xeroc by a great degree

[fading helm]

10k

[mighty zenith]

a little after the last auric soul

[split mortar]

That’s enough for evolution to happen

[fading helm]

how tf did that fish not die bruh

😭

[mighty zenith]

he's fucking ancient compared to original duke fishron for instance

[split mortar]

Yeah it’s the first generation of children from the dragon of frost

[brave dew]

Why xeroc is so much stronger bruh

[mighty zenith]

smart and strong

[brave dew]

Od is the og

[hybrid barn]

Y'know, I kind of wonder, were the original auric dragons the only ones to be based on certain elements or concepts?

[split mortar]

It has cuts

People tried

It spawned a tornado of acid on them and lived

[spring helm]

Draedon: “people get all up in arms about my environmental pollution, ridiculous. The research gained from my experiments far outweighs the downsides.”

The walking Chernobyl that shows up whenever it rains:

[random mulch]

also polterghast rework (sprite's been scrapped iirc but the design is staying

[fading helm]

ehh

armor kinda wonky

[mighty zenith]

i could not be happier that they're moving away from ghost plantera

[fading helm]

what is it supposed to be

[brave dew]

This current scrapped sprite is kinda bad but the idea is really really cool

[hybrid barn]

Damn, who bit a chunk out of their souls?

[dusk laurel]

Amalgam of souls and other dungeon crap

[random mulch]

fused scraps from armor of those in the dungeon

[fading helm]

i mean the armor

well ig it can be classified

as dungeon crap

[dusk laurel]

The armor is from the dungeon's prisoners to an extent

And guards too

[random mulch]

also it's gonna have a giant sword

[split mortar]

Clothing and armour put on polter to keep it more satiated and less angry
Along with some magic spells to keep it together by the dragon cult I think

[mighty zenith]

yeah this thing is made out of hundreds of souls of guards and warriors

[spring helm]

The drip keeps the demons inside calm

[brave dew]

Apparently it'll have a sword

[mighty zenith]

its gotta be skilled in armed combat

[fading helm]

Just saying its extremely cost effective...

[brave dew]

It's actually gonna be a polterghast

And not

[split mortar]

The armour will break off throughout the fight and once all off it goes fucking ballistic

[fading helm]

It probably has like

[brave dew]

Plantera

But blue

[fading helm]

10000 years worth of combat experience

[dusk laurel]

It's not that old

[fading helm]

that is if it wasnt crazy asf

[random mulch]

yharon's looking pretty snazzy at least

[mighty zenith]

sometimes i wish terraria wasnt 2d

[fading helm]

I mean cus it has like 100.000 souls

[hybrid barn]

Combined years, I'm guessing

[mighty zenith]

imagine getting chased by that monstrosity through dim and narrow dungeon halls

[fading helm]

looking majestic

[split mortar]

Nah, I wish terraria had a more active animating fandom

[dusk laurel]

It's not gonna be roaming iirc

[random mulch]

scraping of armor growing closer

[mighty zenith]

very true

[hybrid barn]

I honestly get that, though updates would probably take like...four times as long as they do now

[mighty zenith]

yeah i know

but still
just imagine it

[dusk laurel]

Terror

[spring helm]

Why does he have auric shoulder pads. Is he wearing the corpse of his brethren?

[fading helm]

I would love for more roaming bosses tbh

well not more

[split mortar]

Same

[fading helm]

any

[random mulch]

he is an auric dragon, he can probably just use it by default

[mighty zenith]

you just hear shuffling of armor and metal on walls and suddenly like a dozen hands peeks out of a corner and holds onto the frame

[fading helm]

https://tenor.com/view/re-zero-emila-satella-subaru-anime-gif-5651203

like this but red/blue

some rando skeleton gets destroyed

[random mulch]

that but they're tearing away violently

those souls are pissed

[mighty zenith]

you'd get turned into a meat pulp in seconds

then absorbed into the pile

[fading helm]

Those souls are not playing

[deft vessel]

I know a clip for this

But dont have it

[fading helm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1278448741979918351/1284979596164599858/togif.gif

[random mulch]

it's a giant armored humanoid comprised of hundreds of souls in agony wielding a giant blade, it's not fucking around

[hybrid barn]

A little off-topic, but I envy those that can animate hands
Like, it's one thing to draw a hand that looks good, but actively moving? And in multiple positions and angles? Good lord...

[fading helm]

I envy any mfer that can do art itself

also write

the best art level i have is stickman

[split mortar]

Uh, just start writing and arting

[fading helm]

and im pushing it

[random mulch]

glorbus 1 and 2

[dusk laurel]

How did this turn into CST

[fading helm]

CST?

[dusk laurel]

I just realized

[random mulch]

we excited for spoilers

[random mulch]

calamity spoiler talk

people talk about upcoming calamity stuff

[split mortar]

Men

[hybrid barn]

I can, but just sometimes

[deft vessel]

The corrupt paladins body not moving distracts me too much

[fading helm]

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-moon-lord-josh-hutcherson-whistle-gif-11278917756883322479

[spring helm]

First picture looks like lettuce with glasses ngl

[random mulch]

it's flying (and even then iirc the animation's getting redone)

[fading helm]

who that tho

is it calamity

or smth else

[split mortar]

Looks good

[random mulch]

oh hey i draw sometimes

[dusk laurel]

Enam is interested in redoing the animations yeah

[hybrid barn]

Yeah, it's supposed to have the antennae curled around the shape of the face so it could work as a profile picture!

[deft vessel]

I know it works in game. But it flying would still make movement in the body

[fading helm]

Im a sucker for the mechanical characters like this that have tubes around them

[deft vessel]

Oh hey Wabungus

[fading helm]

like bane

but mechanical

[light linden]

a bit but it's one mind instead of many half broken ones

[hybrid barn]

Niiiice

[random mulch]

anyways nice talk but it's late and i got 4 test tomorrow bye

[dusk laurel]

Bai

[split mortar]

Here is gores of ares

[dusk laurel]

You really like that image don't you

[light linden]

yes ik that was late but still you never got an answer

[fading helm]

Never noticed how many sprites he has

Heard he was the one with most

of all bosses

[split mortar]

The cause nuke has like over 100 fucking frames

[dusk laurel]

gauss

[split mortar]

Fuck yiu

[fading helm]

the big boom?

[dusk laurel]

:/

[fading helm]

https://tenor.com/view/thunder-mean-nice-i-don't-know-who-you-are-zach-hadel-gif-3977331416628469416

[spring helm]

100 frames for something I never see because I’m too busy trying to not die

[light linden]

what did this mean btw?

[split mortar]

I tentionsly did that me getting flashbanged by what they said

The fuc

[light linden]

what I said you mean?

it was in response to this

[split mortar]

Yeah

Just surprise

[light linden]

genuinely though I'm a little surprised there isn't at least one ark reference in calamity

even if it's just a cosmetic version of the tek armor

then again ark doesn't really leave time or space for other games so eh

[frail mist]

how strong are the exo mechs?

[split mortar]

They rival scal combined

Who is like high city level iirc

[wheat walrus]

jonkler

erm actually exomecks are like outerhouse level that's right they are stronger than goku combined

[split mortar]

Oh hey John calamity powerscaler

…can you not brainrot

[wheat walrus]

I jus wanna do supporting calcs for mh scaling....................... but i dont even know which things to calculate

[split mortar]

Uh scale each individual fatalis attack

[wheat walrus]

dude

[split mortar]

What, you wanted something to scale so I gave you something

[wheat walrus]

that's like

whatever

😭

[split mortar]

Too much?

[wheat walrus]

no that's pointless

[lethal heron]

Is there a reason we fight signus in hell?

[split mortar]

Uh, don’t think so?

[lethal heron]

Yeah, makes sense now another thing I’m wondering is who is kos and how are they related to the devourer

[split mortar]

Oh it’s a reference to blood born

Getting renamed to something else in the future

[lethal heron]

Oh okay

[dusk laurel]

Mark of Providence

Ah yes, the MoP bosses

[split mortar]

Markiplier attracts signus!?!?

[lethal heron]

Why do the 3 envoys get the distinction of envoy, did the devourer appoint them?

[split mortar]

Oh that’s old lore

[light linden]

blood born?

[split mortar]

A game

From frimsoft

[light linden]

ah ok

[split mortar]

Or one of their other games

Yharim and yharons names are also references

To yharnam

A fucked up city or something

And so is devourer of gods supposedly?

To someone who is called devourer of gods as a title

[dusk laurel]

Aldrich

Devourer of Gods

He was trying to eat a femboy lmao

[light linden]

I

I prolly shouldn't make the comment I was about to

[split mortar]

All I’m hearing is that there’s lgbtq representation in bloodborn

[dusk laurel]

Aldrich was in Dark Souls 3

[light linden]

oh wait

are y'all talking about bloodborne?

[dusk laurel]

The femboy he was eating was in Dark Souls 1 and 3

[light linden]

that overrated piece of crap?

[dusk laurel]

What

[light linden]

I've played bloodborne and found it boring

[dusk laurel]

Mfw Sony doesn't greenlight a Bloodborne remaster

[hybrid barn]

Y'know, I just realized how...interesting it is that Calamitas just lets you use the ressurected corpses of her brothers as weapons

[light linden]

I hope that weapon gets reworked some day tbh

[dusk laurel]

[split mortar]

It will

[hybrid barn]

It was mentioned elsewhere that it's planned to be, so you're in luck!

[light linden]

thank god

[dusk laurel]

I just remembered

[light linden]

it doesn't do enough for it to be able to hurt you

[dusk laurel]

Exhumed changes are some of the things I forgot to add to the doc

Some of the other enchants are also getting changes too

[light linden]

I hope we get permafrost enchants some day

[split mortar]

Same

Though I heard he will have quests?

Idk how reliable that is though

[dusk laurel]

Statis and Amidias are definitely getting quests that's for sure

[split mortar]

Yea

[light linden]

still don't know how I feel about the permafrost weapons not being sold any more

[hybrid barn]

I do like that idea, by the way, expanding the idea of the angler's fishing quests into a storyline-type thing

[light linden]

there's already kind of an issue with there not being many ammo types for ranger

[dusk laurel]

Does it?

Maybe post-ML

[split mortar]

There is many ammo types

Just uh

[dusk laurel]

But hardmode already is quite full of ammos

[split mortar]

They often don’t scale well iirc

[light linden]

post-ml there's only 3 options

[split mortar]

So you end up with like 4 usable ones post game despite there being 272737 ammo’s

[light linden]

and even then those 3 are just "use until you unlock the next one"

[hybrid barn]

But for Statis, it makes me curious...because supposedly, his last quest will be to kill Signus, but I wonder why he specifically would want that, when Signus was the one who bailed him out of almost certain death

[dusk laurel]

he lost 2 limbs to get out

[hybrid barn]

Sure, he was split from his boyfriend in the process, but the dude's doing alright!

[dusk laurel]

And Braelor didn't get to leave

[hybrid barn]

Ooohhh, fair

[light linden]

and when combined with the whole "nearly every weapon in post ml overrides ammo" thing it sucks

[split mortar]

How would he know braelor is fine?

[light linden]

wait what

which limbs?

[dusk laurel]

He lost an arm and a leg

Literally

[split mortar]

It cost him a literal arm and leg

[light linden]

does he have any prosthesis?

[dusk laurel]

Yep

His concept art shows it

I think

[light linden]

can you post it?

[hybrid barn]

Maybe Signus could let him know?

[split mortar]

Robot leg and arm

[light linden]

oh yeah those are robotic parts

I thought it was asymmetrical armor at first

[light linden]

fun fact

literally every single end game weapon overrides ammo type in some way

[hybrid barn]

I still love how his face is just

👁️ 👁️
-----

[split mortar]

Where’s half naked statis isn’t it a lot more obvious there

[solar wharf]

i wuv you all :3

[dusk laurel]

I don't have it

[dusk laurel]

You too :3

[light linden]

and it sucks

no I will not stop talking about this

there's a reason why ranger hits a wall the moment post-ml starts

[split mortar]

They have them override ammo cause ranger sucks and needs more creative weapons

[light linden]

wanna know what a better solution would be?

[split mortar]

What

[light linden]

making the ammo from some of those weapons be new ammo types

[split mortar]

Like the ultrakill guns

[dusk laurel]

Auric ammo was scrapped iirc, only Kingsbane has it

[light linden]

hell I was talking 2 weeks back to someone about how the auric bullets from the kingsbane should just be upgraded chlorophyte bullets

and the plagued smg's rockets should be a new rocket type

rocket launchers suffer really bad from lack of ammo types

[hybrid barn]

Damn, it'd be so fun to have an exo mechs-viable minishark

[split mortar]

Don’t think ammo would carry that hard

[light linden]

like so bad I'd argue they need a full overhaul

[hybrid barn]

Oh yeaahhh, I noticed that at least as far as I can find, there's no Calamity-specific rocket types

[split mortar]

There is mortars but they’re bullets for some fucking reason

[light linden]

mortars in general suck

you can't use them without destroying your arena

I don't get why acceleration rounds were removed instead of them

[hybrid barn]

Yeaahh, I'm not sure

[split mortar]

What were acceleration rounds

[light linden]

pearl shard rounds

[split mortar]

Ohh

I don’t rember what they did

[light linden]

they were side grades of tungsten rounds

[split mortar]

Oh ok

[light linden]

they started slower but gained a lot of speed really fast

[split mortar]

Ah right

Hence acceleration

[light linden]

hell if you want my opinion

[hybrid barn]

But yeah, I'm just thinking it'd be cool to have like...brimstone rockets made with unholy cores and ashes of calamity, elemental ones that give enemies in their radius randomized effects and made with life alloys, or just going nuts and making an end-game shadowpec mini nuke that destroys practically everything, including yourself

[light linden]

they'd make fun ammo for post prov

[split mortar]

I don’t get why holy fire bullets are possible immediately

[light linden]

maybe they could make it where they gain more piercing as they gain velocity

[split mortar]

They’re like better then luminite in almost every way

[light linden]

actually

I might make an add-on that's just new ammo types some day

[hybrid barn]

That could be cool!

[light linden]

or I might just make it part of the one I'm currently working on

[hybrid barn]

Oh right, I feel like I heard about that before
What's in it?

[light linden]

main parts are some new whips and 2 new bosses

.

[hybrid barn]

Ooh, that's cool!

I'm also curious if you don't mind me asking, how do add-ons work? Like, how do you account for content from other mods without essentially remaking them?

[light linden]

might be a better question for someone else, I'm still learning

[brave dew]

Spy from tf2 making an addon

[stark basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-moon-lord-josh-hutcherson-whistle-gif-11278917756883322479

[glossy wolf]

brimstone elemental lore?

[split mortar]

Uh

Matron of azafure and was dormant for ages, woke up and nuked the city

Is related to scals power somehow

I don’t remember anything else

[noble niche]

yeah she has some

[supple thunder]

i wrote a thing about draedon

make this canon immediately

[calm patio]

WHAR

caps

[robust osprey]

I think she also fought calamitas beacuse yharim felt like it while brimmy was nuking azafure

brimmy clearly won

[pliant ruin]

her fighting cal dosent lry have anything to do with yharim

[robust osprey]

he could made scal fight with her beacuse she knew it was nearly impossible for her to win

cause its like trying to kill a fire man with fire

[pliant ruin]

whar

scal was like a 11 year old who was trying to protect her family

it had

basically nothing to do with yharim

[robust osprey]

[pliant ruin]

confusing

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I might have

dementia

but thats what I remember

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Yharim didn't know that calamitas existed until after the battle

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Heh?

Or wait, oohhh, I see

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She also didn't have her powers until brimstone elemental woke up and started attacking

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i think draedon sniffs his samples

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Whar

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Fucking nose unit

[light linden]

y'all think making a single godseeker knight stronger than providence is a bit weird with power scaling?

cause a godseeker knight's gear is stronger than hers which means I likely have to put them post prov

[hybrid barn]

Which one?

[light linden]

one in my add-on

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Or oohhh, I see
Maybe a little, but we can't really know how strong Yharim's units were

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but also one person being stronger than a literal god feels wrong

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Because while Yharim has a bit of a specific situation for himself, you can also grow to be stronger than regular gods while starting with basically nothing, so it's possible

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Remember: slime god is a god

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ik

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"gods" in calamity are just really strong magic mutant people

[light linden]

but also slime god purposefully is weak

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It is, but that's only one factor

I heard somewhere that the average dragon was about as strong as plantera, and the gods were similar

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I'm pretty sure godseeker knights use hallowed armor

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Why?

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Dev statement

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The arsenal weapons were made for them

Or, some of them were

The last tier if I remember correctly

[real silo]

Well I did say hallowed armor not hallowee weapons

Idk

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Theoretically i suppose godseeker knights and the soldiers that used arsenal could be separate? But that seems rather strange given hallowed armor is weaker than a good few tiers of arsenal

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It would be weird for them to use hallowed armor and post moon lord tier weapons

The God seeker knights specifically used the uelibloom arsenal tier

[real silo]

It would be weird yes

@cosmic zenith hi what armor do godseeker knights use

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https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Heavy_Laser_Rifle

Also possibly connected:
https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Pulse_Dragon

[light linden]

iirc they used the tier 3 arsenal stuff

it was quite literally made to be adaptable

why did it reply to that message lmao