lore-discussion

[split mortar]

Yeah

[robust osprey]

oh yeah

pwease

[untold oracle]

Check pins

[split mortar]

There’s a doc in the pins of this channel

[cloud ibex]

who would do that

[split mortar]

^

[wheat walrus]

me

:/

[robust osprey]

ty

[brave dew]

Np

[robust osprey]

[strange stump]

yeah, thats weird

[wheat walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-power-poder-saiyan-dragon-ball-gif-16045219

[split mortar]

Why here aswell

[wheat walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/xicor-gif-16715855112014009739

napoli goku

[split mortar]

That looks cringe

[untold oracle]

How bro felt like sending this

[split mortar]

Can y’all stop sending images

[wheat walrus]

napoli goku

[cloud ibex]

please don't encourage him

[wheat walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/ssj6-dragon-ball-saiyan-anime-gif-17203418

[untold oracle]

The rot comsumes

[cloud ibex]

☹️

[split mortar]

Go lore image

[faint plank]

oh lord

[wheat walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/super-saiyan-super-saiyan-6-ssj-goku-son-goku-gif-17086724110838478551

[devout grotto]

[wheat walrus]

what did vent do

[faint plank]

venti should be deleted from existence

[brave dew]

Whos vent

Vent from amogus ???

[wheat walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/super-saiyan-infinity-son-goku-gt-goku-af-goku-super-saiyan100-gif-25095565

[split mortar]

Genshin impact femboy

[cloud ibex]

omni please

[wheat walrus]

sorry

:c

[deft vessel]

Calm yourself

[split mortar]

@modmail

[wheat walrus]

shut up melon gun

:/

[devout grotto]

Closest I have is my Terrarian being influenced by the essences in the evil biomes but uh

They turned it into Rage and Adrenaline

[wheat walrus]

besides it's staff mail dumbass melon

[split mortar]

This ain’t bitchlamity, hate isnt allowed

[wheat walrus]

i don't care

[split mortar]

@omnikiller665
kill the guy

[wheat walrus]

that's daiquiri dumbass

:/

[split mortar]

I know

[wheat walrus]

what a drum bass you are

[split mortar]

You think I wouldn’t notice the text being blue?

I don’t take music lessons

[wheat walrus]

@warm gull

kill me if you can

[split mortar]

@warm gull kill omni

[wheat walrus]

stop pinging him drum bass

[untold oracle]

Don’t do this to him!

[wheat walrus]

besides daiquiri probably eeping sleeping smth

[split mortar]

Just realised there’s a circle on the crotch

[wheat walrus]

yea

[split mortar]

@spring helm
Why circle crotch

[wheat walrus]

cause it's funny dude!!!

trust me

it's no such thing as hardcore gooning dude!

[cloud ibex]

☹️

[wheat walrus]

it's no corn addiction gang!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[strange stump]

i feel you there, dawg

[wheat walrus]

nah but like

it's clear popcorn didn't add it there himself

he prolly just stole some internet image

:/

the person who made that image must be weird though

[untold oracle]

Nokomni did not just say that

Disappointment immense

[wheat walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/long-hair-dragon-ball-saiyan-anime-gif-16764407

[strange stump]

anyway

how good would perma be at making ice cream?

[split mortar]

Amazing

[untold oracle]

We would make the softest ice cream

And it’s peak

[gritty kraken]

Goody

[strange stump]

world famous ice cream

[deft vessel]

I just read: cream?
And then: good

[untold oracle]

What?

[split mortar]

Who would make the best chef in calamity?

[strange stump]

good question, actually

[untold oracle]

Xeroc

He trained 800 years

[strange stump]

hm

[split mortar]

Counterpoint

Yharon is over 2 thousand and must have picked up countless hobbies

[untold oracle]

Tho right now he hasn’t had time to practice

So I imagine he’s rusty with it

[split mortar]

Yeah true, but rust doesn’t mean a permanent degrade in skill (I think) so give yharon like a day and they’ll be back to being great

[untold oracle]

The great Terrarian bakeoff

[strange stump]

again, i'd say that perma's cooking would be pretty good

imagine a warm, nostalgic meal while its heavily snowing outside

granddad cooking

y'know?

[gritty kraken]

Yeah

[robust osprey]

damn the draeyap is really long

[split mortar]

Yeah

He gives a lot of info

(I hope it gets longer)

[robust osprey]

I wonder how amidias have more yapping than calamitas herself

[split mortar]

Yea

[dusk laurel]

[split mortar]

Is it a fun read?

[robust osprey]

ye

[split mortar]

Good to hear

[robust osprey]

poor amidias, bro needs to live next to the girl who destroyed his kingdom

[untold oracle]

Amidias does forgive her

[spring helm]

i did circle it

[split mortar]

Why did you circle the crotch

And the chest now that I think about it

[spring helm]

idk i just felt like it

[split mortar]

1233gayfreakcorn

[wheat walrus]

freak

[fading helm]

Cant even do nun too bro

Else he gets cooked

Its wraps for him

[untold oracle]

Calamitas doesn’t want to cook anyone

Not anymore

[sleek halo]

Yharim got on reddit somehow

[wheat walrus]

saw that

[pliant ruin]

hi yharim

[untold oracle]

Yharim typing on r/atheism

[fading helm]

Lowkey xeroc do be stupid

[sleek halo]

i mean

[untold oracle]

How so

[dusk laurel]

Hai cheese

[sleek halo]

i think him not intervening with shit seemingly is interesting

[fading helm]

Bro did not think about the consecuences of his actions

[sleek halo]

neither the gods or crusade

[untold oracle]

Okay that is a fair point

[fading helm]

I held the same stance but seems that it was confirmed he is actually helping by cooling the sun down

[wheat walrus]

I think Xeroc just wanted a new era

:/

[fading helm]

Means i cant call him a bum

[sleek halo]

I mean

[untold oracle]

Maybe he didn’t know that the classified ritual document would leak to the general audience

[sleek halo]

Xeroc of all people

would have had first hand experience

with the failure of the dragons

[fading helm]

Back in my days xeroc used to be a bum that did nun

I mean did the dragons fail

We basically dont know shi about em

[dusk laurel]

They didn't even kill Moon Lord

[split mortar]

They successfully stalled moonlord

[wheat walrus]

dragons got destroyed by moonlord fovos badly, so xeroc wanted to take matters into his own hands since the dragons apparently did a mess with this dude, after all, who knows if there's gonna be more fovos deals

[split mortar]

(At the cost of Almost all dying

[wheat walrus]

and besides

[robust osprey]

I mean he is still around there

[wheat walrus]

moonlord didn't die

[robust osprey]

[sleek halo]

Yeah

[fading helm]

Wonder why didnt yharon kill ml after he got with yharim

[sleek halo]

Sealed on the moon

[fading helm]

Maybe he didnt know about how strong he is now

[robust osprey]

ml is sealed

[sleek halo]

and tbf we don’t know if yharon can breathe in space

[wheat walrus]

he's in the moon, and we cannot be certain if moonlord can recover its strength or not

[fading helm]

I mean just order the cultist to stop it

[robust osprey]

until we kill da cultist

[split mortar]

Because no one knew what state moonlord was in, for what engine knew us freeing ml was going to literally kill everyone

[sleek halo]

I mean

[fading helm]

I mean stop the seling ritual

[sleek halo]

If the seal failed one day

[fading helm]

True true

[sleek halo]

and Yharim & Yharon were alive

Or even just Yharon

[fading helm]

In any case I really wonder how tf xeroc grew so strong

[sleek halo]

ML would have been killed pretty damn fast

[split mortar]

Even fucking DRAEDON didn’t consider going to the moon till after we killed them

[sleek halo]

I mean

[robust osprey]

absorbed the zeratros soul

[fading helm]

Draedon went to the moon

[sleek halo]

Yharim just by being attuned to Yharon

[wheat walrus]

they don't even know if moonlord could have regenerated from the battle against the dragons, so it's best to not take risks

[split mortar]

No

[sleek halo]

Is the strongest being on the planet

[robust osprey]

as shrimple as that

[split mortar]

Draedon hasn’t gotten to the moon

[dusk laurel]

Nah

[sleek halo]

not counting Xeroc

[dusk laurel]

He never went there

[wheat walrus]

like imagine if it recovered and was at full power, and we just unsealed him

[fading helm]

Makes me wonder why are dragons so weak then

[wheat walrus]

ain't no yharim nor yharon stopping the dude

[sleek halo]

Average dragon is like

eidolon wyrm strength

[fading helm]

Maybe yharim was just already strong asf

[sleek halo]

but most likely didn’t have combat orientated domains

Like for example

gluttony

wtf r u gonna do

Yeah let me just eat ml rq

[split mortar]

The weakest boss being defeated could cause someone to be a local legend

[wheat walrus]

yharim is not only a highly tempered fighter, but also attuned with the second strongest dragon ever :/

[fading helm]

Eat the memories and name
Create a white wale

[split mortar]

Fucking slimegod can take down the average army

[sleek halo]

Yharim is literally just

Him

[split mortar]

( not a yharmy)

[sleek halo]

Like him and Xeroc as people are just

wildly strong

[wheat walrus]

busted

[sleek halo]

one in a billion

[fading helm]

One in a krillion

[sleek halo]

They’re the exceptions

[fading helm]

Calamitas is more impressive imo

[wheat walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/todo-todo-aoi-todo-jjk-gif-13742823266590234692

[split mortar]

Like a eidolon wyrm is equal to the average auric dragon

And they’re a post ml miniboss

[fading helm]

She is like 25

[robust osprey]

girl who born really strong

[split mortar]

Her power isn’t even hers

[wheat walrus]

last I talked with Cei she said 28 tho

[sleek halo]

I personally think it’s just

[fading helm]

Wym

[split mortar]

Nah she wasn’t

[wheat walrus]

nah not born...

[sleek halo]

Fovos was so

[dusk laurel]

She wasn't born with her magic

[sleek halo]

overwhelmingly strong

[wheat walrus]

Draedon theorizes that Calamitas might've taken power from Brimstone Elemental

[split mortar]

She got her powers when brimstone elemental awoke

[wheat walrus]

somehow

[sleek halo]

not that the dragons were weak

[fading helm]

I mean she can still grow them no?

[sleek halo]

Like I highly doubt

[fading helm]

I dont see why it matter if she was born or adquiered

[sleek halo]

Well actually

[fading helm]

Unless it was stated she reached her peak or smth idk

[split mortar]

I subscribe to the scal sponge theory

Where scal is just a sponge for brimstone mana and just basically absorbed brim

[sleek halo]

considering current yharon is the second strongest auric dragon to ever live

And he’s that far away from zeratros in power

[split mortar]

She seems more focused on control and skill then gaining more actual power

[sleek halo]

imagine a dragon not battle hardened

[fading helm]

Fighting capabilities*

Thats what i meant

[split mortar]

Oh yeah she does improve that

But still

[fading helm]

Btw do yall know how strong dragon of death and life was?

[dusk laurel]

No

[wheat walrus]

somewhat

[split mortar]

The reason she has her power isn’t because of her own work

[wheat walrus]

idk

[fading helm]

Because if they were the first and second

[sleek halo]

probably relative to past Yharon

[fading helm]

I would assume they are like yharon lv

[split mortar]

Yeah per crusade yharon I imagine is a close guess

[wheat walrus]

is silva yharon lv

well actually

[fading helm]

Dont think so

[sleek halo]

Just keep in mind

[wheat walrus]

she is around dog/post-dog level just based on armor

but still

[fading helm]

She has crazy survivability tho

[sleek halo]

No auric dragon other than zeratros

[split mortar]

(Dragon of death ismore offensive imo)

[sleek halo]

has ever reached Yharon’s current level

[wheat walrus]

just vaporize the planet smh

[split mortar]

Silva is immortal cause she is silva the elemental not silva the goddess of life

[fading helm]

Im very curious but would it be possible to somehow get silva out the abbys and get her help against yharim?

[sleek halo]

So realistically there’s a gulf inbetween like Zeratros and every other dragon lol

[fading helm]

Or even if you somehow get her out she is a perma vegetable

[split mortar]

Even if we did get her out she would be in a vegetative and mushy state till he heals

[wheat walrus]

just wait for her to recover

[sleek halo]

I’m sure she’ll come back

[fading helm]

Yeah, tho I think its a combination of both

[split mortar]

No

Elementals are just straight near impossible to kill

[fading helm]

Dont we kill them

[sleek halo]

you “kill” them

[dusk laurel]

All elementals can't die unless the thing they manifest from is destroyed

[sleek halo]

but not rly

lol

Yeah

[split mortar]

We just beat their bodies to a currently nonfunctional state

[fading helm]

Uh I didnt know that

[sleek halo]

or just a portion of them

like cloud elemntals

[robust osprey]

you cant kill a piece of cloud

[split mortar]

For anahita you would have ti remove all water off the planet

[fading helm]

Seems doable

[dusk laurel]

Okay Providence

[split mortar]

For brimstone elemental?

Just gotta end the world you ain’t removing all heat

[fading helm]

I mean she is brimstone

Not heat elemental

[split mortar]

Silva you have to kill everything for her to be mortal

[wheat walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/dire-miralis-monster-hunter-gif-23757684

[dusk laurel]

[split mortar]

I’m seeing clouds

[fading helm]

Isnt she elemental of nature instead of life?

[dusk laurel]

(She manifests from heat)

[fading helm]

Or did i mix it up

[robust osprey]

you gotta eat all sand to kill sand elemental

[faint plank]

isnt there also inmortal snail that keeps silva alive

[dusk laurel]

Nature includes life

[split mortar]

Yeah, but nature includes living things

[dusk laurel]

Smh

[dusk laurel]

Is that a monster who gets hunted

[split mortar]

All solid matter or all earth

Sans is the actual earth elemental

[dusk laurel]

Sans

[fading helm]

Im surprised dragonfollys are strong like that tbh

[robust osprey]

SANS UNDERTALE?!

wait what about the earth elemental

[fading helm]

A whole race that are like pist ml bosses

[dusk laurel]

Earth elemental is a construct

Not a real elemental

[robust osprey]

[wheat walrus]

yep

[split mortar]

The elementals represent things important for life

Brim=heat
Anahita=water
Cloud=air
Sand=earth
And silva represents that life

[dusk laurel]

I hope Brimmy will get an Anahita style name when the Crags Overhaul is released

[fading helm]

Hopefully all elementals do

[split mortar]

Same

[dusk laurel]

Since she was very connected to Azafure

[fading helm]

Well ig sand elemental not that big of a deal tho

[dusk laurel]

And was like a matron to the city

[split mortar]

I mean, cloud and sand have split themselves into like 500 different weaker bodies so eh they might not

[fading helm]

She was more of a idol

[fading helm]

What is a matron?

[dusk laurel]

patron but female

[untold oracle]

Hai peopel

[fading helm]

Jelo

[dusk laurel]

Hai Terdav

[robust osprey]

basically they applied "quantity over quality"

[split mortar]

I mean, silva,anahita and brimmy are all like comatosed so I think that worked

[robust osprey]

true

[fading helm]

Poor anahita once they wake up their pet is gone

Seems like they take a long ass time to wake up too

[split mortar]

I personally think it being a decade like yharon but Silvas is in abyss so it’s taking longer

[fading helm]

Silva is getting spawncamped bro

[dusk laurel]

Nah

Yharim will be dead by then

[split mortar]

jared is there to protect her idk

[fading helm]

I mean the pressure

[split mortar]

eurt

[dusk laurel]

She already escaped once

[cloud ibex]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kRJCWi79ZSkqOyrG2mo8_CTqC041kygWhuURIZaFxPI/edit?usp=sharing hi chat (not really finished i just wanted to write the draedon vs the stranger part

[fading helm]

Btw i think elementals take more like 100 years, considering azafure had brimmy as an idol for a long time

[fading helm]

Wait fr?

[dusk laurel]

Brimmy was just asleep methinks

[dusk laurel]

Yeah

[fading helm]

This gonna be peak imma read that after i get back from school

[spring helm]

this bit is so funny man, she literally just gets banished to the same exact place

[dusk laurel]

[split mortar]

It’d be funny if she had been banished before but recorded history didn’t exist back then

Endlessly being dipped in the abyss

[fading helm]

Oh wait I think she did get trapped there omce but somehow escaped

This was before yharim i think

Maybe im tripping tho

[split mortar]

Yeah

[dusk laurel]

Azafure is a testament to her first time in the abyss

[split mortar]

Was atleast 1800+ years ago

[fading helm]

Thing is that

Ah nvm true she is elemental

[dusk laurel]

Azafure got an actual food supply because of it

[fading helm]

How did azafure survive

[devout grotto]

Oooo, meeting an NPC in a time different than when you usually meet them?

[fading helm]

Without her on the abbys

[devout grotto]

Ngl I wanna do that with the Mechanic too

[split mortar]

By the time she left there was already a civilisation that could self sustainably exist

[cloud ibex]

well it would still probably be at the beginning of the Stranger's time in Terraria

i imagine the arms dealer would be the one who first tells them about Draedon because he wonders if he's the one who made the Stranger

(they don't find out about PBG until later on)

[fading helm]

Do you all know that one fic where there are 2 players and one of them is kind of siding with yharim and sad about yharon death (he fell in the propaganda) and the other is the opposite?
I cant remember the name

I think the story got split into 2 parts too

[untold oracle]

Imagine if she was a friend with some ancient ass reaper shark and they would just be ”back again huh”
”Shut up!”

[fading helm]

With old duke maybe

[spring helm]

primordial wyrm lmao

[split mortar]

“Oh hey jared”

“…”

“What”

“This is your seventh visit this fucking day”

[fading helm]

It would be really funny if during yharim crusade she kept poking back out once every like 3 months and they have to send someone to put her back

[untold oracle]

When do you guys headcanon the great sinking of silva happened

[fading helm]

Which one

[untold oracle]

The yharimous one

[split mortar]

Uhhh

Decently late in since she a strong goddess

[fading helm]

Around when braelior got defeated

Bit after that

[untold oracle]

I headcanon that it happened surprisingly early

And then that was the point Yharim became a feared and known person

[fading helm]

Icl yharim had that war won ever since he got yharon

[split mortar]

Nah, cause that’s not even 2 years before game starts

[fading helm]

Wait whatttt

No way only 2?

[split mortar]

Braelor and statis fighting yharim happen months before draedon upgrade yharims armour

Hell it’s likely below a year ago

[fading helm]

Nah i think it happened more time ago

Yharim got the upgrade and then draedon had to do plaguebringer, exo mechs all that

I think like

[split mortar]

No?

[fading helm]

10-5

[fading helm]

Wym no

[split mortar]

Draedon didn’t have Exo tech when he worked for yharim

[fading helm]

Yeah ik

[sleek halo]

Yharim had his armor upgraded less than a year ago

[split mortar]

Plus draedon literally tells us it’s months ago

[fading helm]

Hm

I have to recheck the draetalk

[sleek halo]

Yharim is literally just built diff…

[untold oracle]

Braelor & Statis vs. Yharim happened a little over a year before the game. After that Yharim went back to Draedon to upgrade his armour. This was far after he had fired Draedon

[fading helm]

I tough he developed it like after yharim destroyes the plague lab (so like 1 year before game)

[split mortar]

Yharim fights the gays
Months pass
Yharim gets armour upgrade
Months pass
We start journey

[fading helm]

Seems i was wrong

[fading helm]

Btw i heard that yharims armor is vastly stronger

Than ours

Is that true

[split mortar]

Yeah

His armour is both Exo and auric

[sleek halo]

Good auric too

not our shitty forced attunement version

[untold oracle]

Uhh the only difference between out and his armour is that his is upgraded with exotech and it can auric reject (we neutralized the rejection with Yharon soul fragments)

But yes

[devout grotto]

Oooo

[split mortar]

The kind that explodes people in touch

[devout grotto]

I want the Mechanic to come early because she's one of the people that helps the Terrarian fix some sort of small plane that allows them to reach further away places

[sleek halo]

yea

[fading helm]

Ah so exo tech was being developed before the game

[devout grotto]

Boss progression in my story is slightly different

[split mortar]

It took draedon months to make the Exo mechs

[sleek halo]

exo tech afaik was made before it

[fading helm]

I tought it was stronger because it bonded better with him

[devout grotto]

Some bosses are also found through bounty hunt-like things

[fading helm]

Blasphemy

[robust osprey]

yes

[untold oracle]

”But the ritual, Xeroc! How did you create it, what is your source?”
”My source is that I made it the fuck up!”

[fading helm]

Imma just say give me 200M normal souls and we can beat xeroc 100%

[split mortar]

Xeroc like five shots yharim

[sleek halo]

probably not…

[split mortar]

^

[sleek halo]

Xeroc could kill him but I feel like it’d still be

difficult

[real silo]

Xeroc flashbangs yharim

[cosmic zenith]

Same

[real silo]

Permanent blindness

[split mortar]

Yharim when Xeroc stops light entering his eyes

[sleek halo]

I do not believe Xeroc is

wrong reply

[real silo]

Right reply

[sleek halo]

don’t think Xeroc can just be like “no light in your eyes”

[fading helm]

Yharim blitzes because hes built like thta

[untold oracle]

Isn’t the idea for Xeroc fight that he starts with 999% hp and the fight ends when he reaches 998%

[split mortar]

Would be funnier if 999.99 to 999.98

[sleek halo]

Kinda feels a bit too extreme Imo

[untold oracle]

Hai stip

[real silo]

you beat xeroc by stealing 3 of his pennies

[split mortar]

Oh yeah hi stip

[deft vessel]

Hi

[cosmic zenith]

Killing Xeroc is "anime protagonist gets furious, goes through several saiyan transformations, teams up with the main villain, assembles all the mcguffins into the super mega glorpshit laserbeam fuck-all bigass sword, gets kissed on the cheek by the Gods, rides to battle on a legendary Dragon and still has to sacrifice their life to save everyone"

Hello

[fading helm]

Only way to beat xeroc is to make him depressed

[split mortar]

Sounds about right for what is essentially the god of the sun

[deft vessel]

Nah the Terrarian just uses the power of friendship

[untold oracle]

Nah I’d win

[cosmic zenith]

Xeroc can literally end all of the Terrarian's friends before they can even protest

[fading helm]

Would not put it past draedon to create a world ending nuke with enough time to oneshot xeroc

[split mortar]

Didn’t Rebecca say no matter how long draedon has they aren’t reaching Xeroc if they also have the same time to grow

[drifting canyon]

prep time

[deft vessel]

What?! But i thought nothing could beat the power of friendsip

[split mortar]

^

[sleek halo]

I think the only way Xeroc loses

is the most insane teamup

[split mortar]

Xeroc is powered by the friendship of the dragon and monk

[sleek halo]

Which is basically DoG-Yharim teaming on him

[untold oracle]

Would xeroc defeat the immortal snail

[sleek halo]

(That means every boss in between DoG and Yharim)

[sleek halo]

lol no

[fading helm]

I mean at one point he should be able to do shit like tier 3 civilization

[split mortar]

Yeah but xerocs limit is the highest possible

^

[deft vessel]

But the Terrarian has
Depressed girlfailure
Dragonball santa
And fish

[real silo]

"hey don't you feel it's a little hotter than usual today"

[split mortar]

And xeroc has

The cool lizard it found in the backyard

They’re completely unstoppable

[real silo]

followed by the entire surface being turned into dust

Provi wishes she could have xeroc's power

[fading helm]

Isnt he like country lv tho

[untold oracle]

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-bizarre-adventure-gif-11387564

[split mortar]

Country level calc minimum with normal sunlight not the magic sunlight

[fading helm]

Im basing it off the db powerlevel scale cei made

[deft vessel]

I should make a MPAR calamity addon

[split mortar]

Those are old and innacurate now iirc

[untold oracle]

Mpar?

[fading helm]

Not like the magic sunbeams can be scaled

[deft vessel]

Mr. Plagues authentic races

[fading helm]

How you even scle that through normal sunbeams anyways

[untold oracle]

Oh yea

I don’t think it’ll be that difficuly

[split mortar]

Scale the energy hitting the planet in the form of light over the course of a second

Or something like that

[fading helm]

I dont think thats xerocs doing tho

[warm gull]

kills u

[fading helm]

Tyats just the sun

(tho xeroc feats of warming it down is actually big)

So maybe thats how

[real silo]

Well xeroc can control the sun

That's his whole schtick

[fading helm]

Thing is that this sun is weird

[split mortar]

I think it was off the basis of “xeroc has complete control of light”

[fading helm]

It aint the same as outs

[wheat walrus]

die

[fading helm]

So ill look into it

[fading helm]

I dont think thats how it works otherwise dragon of life would have been busted

Unless some dev stated so

[real silo]

Dragon of life can end others' lives

[split mortar]

Dragon of death had a death aura so life might have had a regen aura idk

[cosmic zenith]

Bippity boppity your life is now my property

[fading helm]

That would be dragon of regen tho

😭

[real silo]

Dragon of growth....

[split mortar]

Well we know life dragon isn’t immortal

Seeing as it dies

[real silo]

If dragon of life can take lives that means dragon of death can prevent deaths

[fading helm]

He was faking that name fr

[split mortar]

How strong would be Dragon of gravity compared to others?

[real silo]

he's the dragon of life not the dragon of living

Get it right smh

[fading helm]

Top 7

[real silo]

dragon of gravity can explode the moon

[split mortar]

Can people stop pissing on the moon

[fading helm]

Dragon of moon would prevent that

[untold oracle]

Why not just kill fovos then..,

[split mortar]

Dodged

[untold oracle]

Gasp

[real silo]

Can't piss on the moon if there's no moon left

[real silo]

You see

If you explode the moon then fovos is free again

and he can probably survive the moon exploding

[untold oracle]

No but I’m pretty sure fovos aint moon level

[real silo]

probably

[untold oracle]

So why not

Explode fovos

[split mortar]

I’d imagine Noxus is if anything

[real silo]

he can teleport away before it fully explodes...

[deft vessel]

But Fovos can’t beat these hands

[real silo]

If deus didn't get infected could fovos just

Slurp one deus out of the sky

Delicious deus juice

[fading helm]

Nah

[split mortar]

Free snack while going to kill the terrarian

[fading helm]

Deus would put him near death smth like that

Unless infection gave a big boost

[split mortar]

Moonlords death laser beam pierces so that may nuke deus

[real silo]

Oh damn I sure am feeling hungry I hope I find something to snack on in the cold vastness of space
The elusive astrum deus:

[fading helm]

Thats just gme logic tho

[real silo]

Moon lord's laser beam is the last prism

[fading helm]

In any case a deus vs moonlord fight would be epic asf

[split mortar]

There’s a mod that lets you have that happen iirc

[fading helm]

Ye but deus gets cooked

He gets like 3 shoted when the beam comes out

[real silo]

Worm boss

[split mortar]

I personally headcanon that moonlord is one of the biggest jumps in power my terrarian fights

[fading helm]

Hmm

Peobably true

[split mortar]

Their soul proceeds to suffer the consequences and nearly has that destroyed

[fading helm]

What if the actual gao between king slime and scal was like only 10% tho

[split mortar]

Isn’t magic stored in the bones lore chat

[fading helm]

Dont think so

Probs on the soul seeing polterghast

Btw i just wanna say polterghast is extremely cost effective

Its like what

100.000 dudes for a being stronger than providence

[split mortar]

While true

Dungeon fucks with souls and they’re also super volatile so it’s essentially a growing nuke

[real silo]

That's a weird idea of cost effectiveness

[fading helm]

At one point it would beat xeroc trust

[fading helm]

I mean

Its basically

A free 2nd strongest god

[untold oracle]

Yes yes

[split mortar]

Not even draedon can ever beat xeroc

[fading helm]

Let me cope

[split mortar]

Second strongest god was prob post yharon

[real silo]

2nd strongest god is way stronger than polter

[fading helm]

I mean who

[real silo]

Space god

[fading helm]

Silva maybe

[split mortar]

Soace god

[real silo]

And silva yea

soace god

[fading helm]

Space god wasnt he like around DoG kv max

[real silo]

miner spelling mistake

[split mortar]

Devourer of gods even with armour can’t beat every not xeroc god

[untold oracle]

God of Space (in geometric sense like distance)

[fading helm]

In any case a top 5 god for only 100.000 dudes

[split mortar]

Nah, below scal is the only limit

[fading helm]

Just saying

That is a bargain

[real silo]

Rebecca outright said space god is the strongest god besides xeroc

[fading helm]

Sad that it cant be controlled tho

[real silo]

I imagine silva is not that far behind

[fading helm]

Yharon or space god

[real silo]

100000 dudes is a lot though

[split mortar]

I bet on space god

[real silo]

Where are you getting that many people

[fading helm]

Yharim killed like 200M

Avross the crusade

[real silo]

Yeah well

[fading helm]

Inagine if all those souls were salty and decided to joinr polter

Its wraps

[real silo]

You'd still need to kill 100000 people then trap all of them in a big trench

[fading helm]

True

Its very effective tho

[real silo]

Not to mention it'd be completely fuckin uncontrollable

[fading helm]

Considering what just build a dungeon and get 100.000 dudes

[real silo]

Good luck trying to keep that thing from killing everyone you know

[fading helm]

Other methods rely on
-being draedon or scal
-getting an auric soul or being a dragon (even then not guarranted)

• being a top tier goon of noxus

[real silo]

Good luck trying to transport it to the enemy's base for it to rampage

[fading helm]

We will figure it out... Eventually

[devout grotto]

And then they end up screaming like Shinji during the Third Impact

[real silo]

Tactical polter nuke

[split mortar]

And the people in polter aren’t normal people

They’re likely god worshippers and blessed people and strong people

[fading helm]

Even if thats the case

The dungeon dudes range from skeletons to bone lees to mages

So its varied

Its like a soup

[split mortar]

Those are the plantera souls

[fading helm]

So at most you would need like only 5x the dudes

500.000 people for one polter is still a good deal

[fading helm]

The enemiea at the dungeon

[split mortar]

Yeah

Plantera souls get stuck in the dungeon

[fading helm]

Vary from skeletons to bone lees to paladins, etc

Uh?

Wait what

Isnt plantera smth else

Like complete diff

I get that it was created by souls smth

[split mortar]

Plantera is a plant filled with like 1000 souls

[fading helm]

But what relation to the dungeon

Does it have

[split mortar]

Dungeon fucks with souls

[fading helm]

Another extremely cost effective monster to create

Soul monster be goated

Auric souls are overrated normal souls betta

[split mortar]

I theorise that ceaseless void is sucking in souls and feeding it to noxus and the stronger ones can resists the pull

[fading helm]

Thats more of dogs style

I think ceaseless is the portal which noxus tried to enter

To terraria

[split mortar]

A minuscule shard of yharons auric soul is stronger then multiple of polterghasts strongest souls

[fading helm]

How many polters to beat yharon

Like what

[split mortar]

(Ruinous shard weaker then yharon soul fragment)

[fading helm]

10?

[split mortar]

Uh idfk

[fading helm]

100 at most

[split mortar]

Yharon has good aoe I think so they may get fucked up a bit

[fading helm]

And thats really highballing it

[split mortar]

Def not that

Too high

That’s enough to murk yharim

[fading helm]

Yeah but i mean concentrated

Souls

Like polter that merge

With eachother

I think 10 would do the trick tbh

So you only need 1M-2M dudes

And just saying

Thats really cost effective

[split mortar]

Well understand

Souls get stronger the more willpower and emotion you have

So it’s like 1-2 million of the strongest souls a normal person can get

[fading helm]

Im sure that the dungeon dudes were also being frecuently seen in front lines

So at worst

Get like 2M dudes

Boom

Yharon lv fighter

If only you could control em

[split mortar]

Well the dungeon souls have been festering for years so I doubt it’s exactly the easiest thing to do

[fading helm]

Thats a good point, idk if that makes em stronger tho

Wouldnt it make them weaker

Seeing how they could possible weaken with time if left alone

[split mortar]

Kill multiple big cities and let them fester in a small place for years for a chance to get a uncontrollable monster

[split mortar]

I don’t see why they would

[fading helm]

The gods should have taken their chances with the gacha fr fr

[devout grotto]

Or even an entire country

[split mortar]

True there’s like 1.5 billion people worldwide max

[fading helm]

1.5 Billion souls vs focos

Fovos

[strange stump]

really reminds me of alucard from hellsing for some reason

[fading helm]

Who take sit

[split mortar]

Fovos

Easily

[fading helm]

Idk man thats like

1500 polters

Ir 15000

And merged would be a beast

[spring helm]

India no diffs

[fading helm]

😭

Imma ask one of the devs when i get the chance about how many souls need to merge to beat fovos

[spring helm]

i feel like souls would be the worst way to go about fighting fovos

can't he like
eat them

[split mortar]

Yeah

Hell fovos might super effective against souls

[deft vessel]

Maby more like combined strenght 1,5billion people

[fading helm]

Yeah 1.5 billion souls merged together like polter

Would be truly a sight

[split mortar]

That’d be weaker then Yharim if they’re all average irl person I think

[fading helm]

Nah i dont think so

Even if they are weak a normal dudes will is still good

[split mortar]

He can oneshot like a skyscraper

[fading helm]

Besides it would also count the strong dudes too

[split mortar]

How many punches does it take to break a skyscraper

[fading helm]

I mean less than 1.5billion kgs of force probs

This assuming they all come together perfectly which obv wouldnt be the case but still

[untold oracle]

At least 1

[fading helm]

You know those "composite human" threads you see sometimes

Where its dummy op

[untold oracle]

Unless you explode it with your mind

[deft vessel]

I mean they could punch with the force of around 225 billion kg

[fading helm]

I think the 1.5 billion soul soup would be a nerfed ver of that

[strange stump]

i think thats like

200x a 1km asteroid?

[split mortar]

What would be the best metal to use as a pan for pancakes

[strange stump]

stainless steel

[split mortar]

Calamity metals

[strange stump]

Titanium

ay you cant get mad, im giving sincere and logical answers

[split mortar]

That’s a vanilla metal

Idoot

[fading helm]

Ubleimium however its called

[split mortar]

Uelibloom

[fading helm]

yeah that

[hybrid barn]

Uelibloom isn't canon anymore

[deft vessel]

Idk probably

[fading helm]

wait what

why

[untold oracle]

Auric

It hops them automatically

[hybrid barn]

I think there just wasn't much of a lore purpose for it, so it's getting replaced with Profaned-themed stuff

[fading helm]

hm then it probably be the exo crystals

well its not really a mineral per se

if not that then the plantera one

[split mortar]

Being changed to providence themed ore

[hybrid barn]

Honestly, an exo frying pan would actually probably be cool
And Draedon would probably appreciate it more than turning his machines into a chair

[split mortar]

Draedon already uses his machines to make chairs

[stark basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-moon-lord-josh-hutcherson-whistle-gif-11278917756883322479

[split mortar]

The Exo chair mount and the one his drone sits on

[split mortar]

[strange stump]

i could win one argument with draedon

"whats the perfect way to make a sandwich"

because we'd both agree

[split mortar]

That’s not an argument

[strange stump]

shut up

shush

[fading helm]

You could easily win an argument with him

[light linden]

what would you say?

[wheat walrus]

draedon is less about manipulation and stuff than it is knowledge

knowledge and putting knowledge to practice

but he isn't socially smart for all I know

[split mortar]

Yeah draedon is about science, while he would know enough to hold a normal conversation he would prob crumble at stuff more complex

[strange stump]

another pfp change, nice
sukuna no less

[wheat walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/sukuna-domain-expansion-jujustu-kaisen-shibuya-sukuna-vs-mahoraga-gif-3966585850028273519

[split mortar]

Go back to calamikuna pfp

[strange stump]

...

yes

[wheat walrus]

she's been in my banner for the entire time dummy

[split mortar]

I know

[light linden]

yes?

[split mortar]

Have both be calamikuna

[strange stump]

yes!

[pliant ruin]

lobster

hi

[wheat walrus]

that'd be cool but I wanna use gifs rn :3

[untold oracle]

No omniman should put this as pfp

[pliant ruin]

ark pog

[wheat walrus]

maybe eventually

[untold oracle]

Boring.,

[wheat walrus]

ark soyvivor evolved

[split mortar]

Wait

[split mortar]

Not tenor

Fuck

[stark basalt]

@wheat walrus Change your profile picture to the same moonlord that @split mortar has.

[split mortar]

Pfft

[split mortar]

Shrek that you?

[wheat walrus]

that's ark soyvivor ascended

[strange stump]

WAIT

HOLY FUCK

[wheat walrus]

what

[strange stump]

THAT DOES LIKE HUMAN SHREK FROM SHREK 2

[wheat walrus]

yea true

average ark character

[fading helm]

idk why but I always looked at the calamity discord logo like its sukuna charging a fire arrow

[wheat walrus]

sigma

[strange stump]

average caveman

[split mortar]

Wtf

[wheat walrus]

the arm muscles clipping onto the body

[light linden]

weak

you can make them far more cursed

[split mortar]

Stpuid bug vs green slime

[wheat walrus]

and then there's people saying that rockwell is freaky for sitting on a throne made of its own body

[split mortar]

Both are weird

[wheat walrus]

the actual freak was always there since the game first dropped

[light linden]

tbf the entire room is his body

[wheat walrus]

true

an entire biome is his body

his immune system isn't microscopic bacterias it's giant eldritch flower thingies

I like how the main body looks from behind it's so weird

[split mortar]

So a single misplaced lit matchstick kills him?

[light linden]

not entirely

[wheat walrus]

what

[light linden]

that's what I thought but uh

his flesh is infused with a metal that stops that

element is a hell of a thing

[wheat walrus]

it's funny cause they needed to blow up the entire ship, including the artificial star that powers it

[wheat walrus]

element is fucked up lmao

[light linden]

anyways we're getting a bit off topic here

[split mortar]

All I’m hearing is a hotter fire to ignite the metal

[light linden]

issue

[wheat walrus]

no such thing

[light linden]

fire literally can't melt it

[split mortar]

That’s normal

[wheat walrus]

that metal can be tougher than tungsten or easier to work with than copper without a care in the world

[light linden]

you know how draedon's forge works?

[wheat walrus]

you can create mini black hole grenades using that thing if you so desire

[light linden]

where it disassembles and reassembles things at a molecular scale?

that's the only way to work with element

[split mortar]

Uses nanobots and exotic resonance to make a comically hot fire I think ?

[split mortar]

Oh

[wheat walrus]

no that's the thing

element can be whatever you want really

since

[split mortar]

So draedon solos

[wheat walrus]

it can replace any element

[light linden]

oh also element is sentient

[wheat walrus]

yea element corruption and stuff

[split mortar]

So it’s god essence on steroids?

[light linden]

depends on how much element he is facing

[wheat walrus]

remember how the element corruption managed to get so crazy it cooled down the earth's core, which is implied to be the reason why the planet is in tidal lock in an explorer note

[wheat walrus]

also in some holograms you can kinda see that some of the element corruption veins are as big as countries

so yea

that thing can also spawn a shittillion kaiju titans apparently

one of the explorer notes makes a remark about how even a lifetime of taking those kaijus down

[light linden]

e.g. if draedon was facing one of these three he likely could

[wheat walrus]

wouldn't even make a dent in their population

[split mortar]

Element vs exotic resonance

[wheat walrus]

debatable, ark scaling is quite crazy if you ask me

[light linden]

but the king titan would crush them like a bug

[light linden]

not really

[wheat walrus]

titans are considered to be beyond what the tek humanity could do, they were all basically unstoppable

[light linden]

forest titan couldn't reach ares or the duo

doubtful he could do more than just snare thanatos

ice titan could definitely handle thanatos, it would get crushed like a bug

ares it would be an even fight

it flat out couldn't hit the duo though

[light linden]

issue with this before I continue

titans didn't start appearing until most of the population had died or fled

desert titan would likely cook thanatos with its lightning

ares would be stuck trying to fight off the swarmers

[split mortar]

How does the lightning storm when draedon appears scale

[light linden]

and the duo would basically have to resort to hit and run tactics

[wheat walrus]

this is the same tek humanity that 3shotted the entirety of new zealand as of a gen2 note, sinking a good chunk of the island with the last nuke; that was already calculated to be large island level at a lowball, and some of my higher end calcs put it at large country level; keep in mind this feat was pulled very early into tek humanity for all I remember, so this is nowhere near their full advancements

then there's the makeshift tek nuke that fucked up the aberration ark, this is a makeshift thing that was made by a bunch of people who were cloned into the aberration ark and had lost a lot of memories of their past life, and they still created a nuke that destroyed the entire ark's outer shield; that was calculated to have a bigger yield than any iteration of any nuke irl humans made, already scaling higher than anything I calced for calamity except Calamitas doing a sea boiling thing over an extended period

lastly, you have one of the people who wrote lore for ark pointing out that while they weren't given information about the destroyed moon you can see ingame, the writer still gave his explanation as "humanity created weapons capable of blowing up the moon"

also the whole thing about how the genesis ship is powered by an artificial star despite it being made by humanity while they were near extinction, same thing for all the arks; also the whole tek gravity grenade thing being implied to be a black hole thing both by file names and iirc a dev interview too

[light linden]

king titan even all 3 of them at once couldn't handle though

[wheat walrus]

but yea

idk

king titan is too much for sure

[light linden]

especially when powered up

they might be able to wound normal king titan but uh

[wheat walrus]

while it's true that the king titan did spawn only after most of humanity was cooked, it was still considered unassailable by any form of weaponry they ever made until the mega mek came in (which is a bit funny imo, but whatever)

[light linden]

the only way omega king titan can be even harmed is with the mega mek which saps the element forming its armor to power itself

[wheat walrus]

alpha king titan :/

where did you get the omega from

well actually I know where you got it from...................

[light linden]

it's what its referred to in lore

[wheat walrus]

they do call king titan an omega-level threat

basically yes

[light linden]

also I think it sounds way cooler

[wheat walrus]

fair

[split mortar]

But can they solo goku

[light linden]

prolly

[split mortar]

Whar

[light linden]

king titan disorts gravity and is nearly invulnerable when powered up

[wheat walrus]

it's still comical that, while yes the people who blew up the aberrant ark's main protection did include Santiago, the most important guy during the tek war and allat, they still had memory loss from being clones iirc, and also most likely didn't have nearly as much material available as the entire tek humanity

and yet they still made a meganuke that crazy

all for just a makeshift pipe bomb to throw at the overseer 😭

as for goku stuff

there is full potential rockwell

[light linden]

this is the king titan btw

[wheat walrus]

it's generally implied that rockwell was gonna expand through the entire universe if not stopped, taking over its entirety

"infinite and undying" whatever that was

[untold oracle]

Loreful

[split mortar]

So Rockwell is universal at full?

[light linden]

a skyscraper sized monster covered in nearly invulnerable armor

[light linden]

he never got the chance

[wheat walrus]

depends on the arguments

[light linden]

lore wise our character uh

[wheat walrus]

full potential should be at least universe level methinks

[light linden]

they literally denied god hood to kick his ass two more times

[wheat walrus]

but that's a full potential

[split mortar]

Pfft

[wheat walrus]

the whole extinction ending right before genesis is so funny

it's all unclear what happened, if the extinction and genesis character are the same one, or whatever

[light linden]

it isn't unclear

we are the same character

[wheat walrus]

but headcanoning that we just said no to becoming homodeus just to go and kick rockwell ass is funny

honestly deserved though

[light linden]

we uploaded ourselves into the genesis simulation once we realized rockwell escaped

[light linden]

that's actually mostly canon

we did become one

[wheat walrus]

I remember fighting Corrupted Master Controller, basically Rockwell's avatar in genesis simulation

[wheat walrus]

that shit was horrid

[light linden]

we just 'descended' and uploaded ourselves

[wheat walrus]

idk I myself haven't been keeping up too much recently with ark stuff

I do remember that there was a huge debate about the whole extinction genesis character thing

[light linden]

helena knew that was going to happen and that's why she sent hln-a in so much earlier than we arrived

[wheat walrus]

I remember one time me and a friend (past) were messihng around n shi on genesis part 1

and he accidentally shot a tamed basilosaurus with the admin rifle and killed it

and then hlna started bullying him for that

also the bullying whenever we died

[light linden]

what IS up for debate though

[wheat walrus]

hlna was vicious

[light linden]

whether Helena told us to or we did it of our own volition

[light linden]

might've been rockwell hijacking her

[wheat walrus]

no that's the thing

whenever rockwell hijacked her he wasn't nearly as vicious

hlna is just a menace

[light linden]

cause hln-a doesn't comment on killing your own creatures

[hybrid barn]

This mod's lore is so much more expansive than I thought!

[wheat walrus]

idk if they changed it

it happened in like 2020

[light linden]

lmao

[wheat walrus]

so true

[wheat walrus]

and only that one time

[split mortar]

Ark lore now

[wheat walrus]

other than that I cannot remember one time where hlna commented on that stuff

also collecting glitches in gen1 and hearing hlna yap about random shit was lowkey fun

[untold oracle]

The goblin army chapter is coming along nicely

[split mortar]

Nice

[spring helm]

goblin

deez

[untold oracle]

I think it’ll be done tomorrow

[split mortar]

Hemogoblin shark chapter when

[wheat walrus]

one time she's yapping about some fucking dodo cult the other time it's about some random thing that happened in the 1800s, and at one point it's just incomprehensible babbling

[split mortar]

Whar

[wheat walrus]

yea

and the one time she's normal about fixing glitches she then snaps back and says "sorry mb"

[untold oracle]

I imagine it feels like a fever nightmare being waked up at 2am to half of your town being held hostage

[light linden]

She also talks about one of Genghis Kahn's soldiers waking up in the ocean biome and just going completely insane because it's the first time he's seen so much water

[wheat walrus]

😭

most normal glitch note

[split mortar]

HIB

[light linden]

the ocean biome for reference

[split mortar]

WHAT

WHAR

[light linden]

?

[wheat walrus]

this is all lore accurate btw

[light linden]

oh right

uh

the minds of all the lore characters

[cosmic minnow]

[wheat walrus]

the survivors that wake up in the arks and in the genesis simulation are clones of people who died throughout history

[light linden]

they're all basically copies from long dead people

[wheat walrus]

yea

[split mortar]

I know nothing of ark lore so I just heard this without any fucking warning

[cosmic minnow]

same

[wheat walrus]

so yea you could be Obama and that'd be lore accurate

[split mortar]

Fucking flashbang in words wtf

[light linden]

Hell it's supposedly canonical that Nicolas Cage was in the bog biome

[split mortar]

Lore doc cleanse this mess

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DgyreCi8fGco8QiFhKHH8rIo_wHplhthdq08ro_SK9o/edit?usp=sharing

[wheat walrus]

lmao

[pliant ruin]

lobster

[light linden]

jokes aside though

[split mortar]

What about cube

Or even

[light linden]

the bog biome would be hell to live in

[split mortar]

Bug

Th at is stupif

[wheat walrus]

fr tho fuck the swarm

[pliant ruin]

lobstr

[light linden]

swarms of insects that can tear apart metal

[pliant ruin]

holy shit bog biome reference

[light linden]

leeches and spinosaurus everywhere

[pliant ruin]

its like a swamp

[wheat walrus]

why is it gotta be giant disgusting insects

[pliant ruin]

a feral swamp