lore-discussion

[split mortar]

Xeroc is just that fucking strong

[fading helm]

xeroc fight (If we get one) is gonna be a test

[hot valve]

I get that not being able to be the strongest can be a tad frustrating but I think for the story, not being stronger than Xeroc makes a lot of sense

[split mortar]

Like mountain level is strong

Ain’t killing country to multi continent (minimum) level

[hybrid barn]

Okay yeah, I guess that makes sense
I was wondering about that honestly, if it'd go like Wrath of the Gods' version and have it just be a test of skill, and not an actual fight to the death on both sides

[spring helm]

Boss Rush is probably gonna get moved once Yharim is added

[fading helm]

Tbh i dont really think xeroc does much for the story either other than being a plot device for the dragons deal and all that

its not like

[split mortar]

Think that will bethe case

[fading helm]

he really impact us

on the game

only the terminus

[split mortar]

We haven’t been to the distortion yet

[dusk laurel]

Xeroc invented the ascension ritual so he still has a large impact

[fading helm]

Yharim for example is present all the time

[spring helm]

That’s why he’s a super boss and not a plot relevant boss

[fading helm]

What i mean is that his power itself

[split mortar]

If him hunting noxus is true then primordial light attacks could be a common danger there

[fading helm]

is kinda weird

not what he does

like he could easily do the same stuff but be like 10x weaker

[fading helm]

that would be really interesting

are we gonna see a draedon base there?

[hybrid barn]

I do kind of wonder if he would be willing to do so, though
Like, is there a context in which Xeroc would be as honorable as Yharim or Yharon and go into a fight fully willing to die for the sake of giving it their all, or would he teleport away in any case?

[fading helm]

forgot if he managed to put one there

[fading helm]

we dont know

[split mortar]

He did get cosmilite

So maybe

[fading helm]

all that we know of xeroc is that he is some rando

[dusk laurel]

There is a chance that he has a mission

[fading helm]

that was first god

[dusk laurel]

So i'd say it likely won't happen

[fading helm]

I dont know if it even gets mentione he is doing smth good rn

[split mortar]

Has amazing aesthetics

[fading helm]

true

[split mortar]

Imagine the post ascension drip

[fading helm]

all that we know of xeroc after the dragon era

is 0

pretty much

well except that mango leak

ig

[hot valve]

It’s more that Xeroc is the absolute pinnacle of power, and you (a mortal) should realistically not be capable of slaying the strongest god

[dusk laurel]

Unless you are Calamari [get sponsored]

[split mortar]

(Calamari is a god)

[fading helm]

I just dont really like a character that just represents the power ceiling and not being able to take him down tbh

its quite sad

cus like

he could defo be a lot weaker and still do all that he did, this is obv only my opinion

[dusk laurel]

You are entitled to your own opinion

[fading helm]

if the devs want to make him like that

then so will they

[hot valve]

Not every game needs to have the mc as the strongest thing in the universe

[split mortar]

We don’t know how close noxus and xeroc are, maybe that’s not the case

[fading helm]

its not like he is actually that big of a thing in game anyways

[hushed geyser]

Is that

[hot valve]

We will eventually kill Noxus, at the very least

[fading helm]

If we base it around that one comment cei made some time ago

[hushed geyser]

Ssj5 goku

[fading helm]

it was like

noxus is 5x weaker

[dusk laurel]

That isn't really a good reason for him to die

[fading helm]

spirit killer tablos

https://tenor.com/view/esencia-tablos-tablos-af-veggeta-poseido-gif-10866714251531327891

[wheat walrus]

[hushed geyser]

Ssj5 goku

[dusk laurel]

Deus doesn't die, and it doesn't have much of a connection to the main story

[split mortar]

Noxus is more destructively powerful but idk if that’s lroe chat making shit up or a comment

[hot valve]

I think killing Xeroc is actually making terraria worse off of a world lmao

[fading helm]

Oh i mean more like

actually getting close to him

[hybrid barn]

I guess that'd probably track, since DoG is the strongest minion of his that we know of, and he's very killable

[fading helm]

its just something picky of mine not really big thing

[split mortar]

It would, the sun would prob go back to full power and nuke the surface like when dragons existed

[dusk laurel]

I love getting skin cancer

[fading helm]

I dont think xeroc actually

controls the sun

like

[dusk laurel]

He can

[fading helm]

as a star

he can but also

the sun was there

before dragons

too

[dusk laurel]

He weakened the sun's strength

Less harsh light

[fading helm]

where was this stated no way i missed it

[dusk laurel]

Dev statement

[fading helm]

am i being trolled rn

[dusk laurel]

No

[fading helm]

https://tenor.com/view/kanye-kanye-west-kanye-east-deathstare-stare-gif-6002816845218983434

[hot valve]

I actually didn’t even know that lmao

[hybrid barn]

Actually, I feel like maybe Noxus would be similar to Slime God, in that while they aren't particularly strong in battle, they're particularly good at not committing enough to risk dying

[split mortar]

The sun was so obscenely bright the first civilisation was in a hyper volcanic cave where the magma was over 5000 Celsius

Then it’s now comparable to irl sun in brightness after dragons stopped ruling the earth

Either xeroc weakens the sun or zeratros can make it hotter I think

[fading helm]

bro where tf did yall get this from

😭

what tf did i miss

[split mortar]

Statements

[dusk laurel]

Dev statements

[split mortar]

Lore chat statements

[hot valve]

Xeroc defends terraria from otherworldly threats
Killing him would remove that protection

This leaves terraria entirely in the players hands, and that kind of feels…troublesome

[fading helm]

this feels like saying it was stated in CYFOW imma go check 😭

[split mortar]

Especially when the Terrarian is often a human

[split mortar]

Nah lore chat

[wheat walrus]

you prolly missed everything since recently devs been sayin stuff

[dusk laurel]

Good luck

[What is CYFOW]

[wheat walrus]

type shit that not even I knew despite having ties...

[fading helm]

If omni says it then i trust it ig

[wheat walrus]

gang 🙏

[dusk laurel]

[fading helm]

https://tenor.com/view/bornskywalker-dap-me-up-woody-woody-handshake-woody-toy-story-gif-26021440

[split mortar]

Wait omni has actual connections whar

[dusk laurel]

CAU

[fading helm]

He has been around for a long time

[wheat walrus]

not just cau

[dusk laurel]

He's in cau

[fading helm]

what is that

[wheat walrus]

also cei yap sesh

[spring helm]

Dev statements aren’t canon until they’re in-game so don’t worry about missing out in them

[fading helm]

Calamity academics units?

[split mortar]

Calamity addon united I think

[wheat walrus]

cau is that yea

calamity addons united

[split mortar]

Still shows what’s planned even if they don’t get implemented

[fading helm]

well now i cant say xerocs been bumming around

xeroc bum agenda is over

[spring helm]

Guide is Xeroc is still possible guys trust

Why else would he know every recipe

[wheat walrus]

xeroc is the bandit

[split mortar]

It was guide is yharim was it not

[wheat walrus]

never forget

[spring helm]

In-game stuff is canon

[dusk laurel]

Xeroc is an aero slime

Trust

[fading helm]

its obvious xeroc is the bartender

[spring helm]

Could you imagine

[split mortar]

Nah guys Xeroc is the nurse

[hybrid barn]

Honestly, it kind of does make me wonder what those threats are
Aliens aren't really an issue, as far as we know, so is it just distortion entities?

[fierce pagoda]

Multiple Organ Failure

[spring helm]

Xeroc is also a slime

[fading helm]

aliens could be an issue

if they are

moonlords cousins

[spring helm]

The ultimate life form

[fading helm]

or smth

[dusk laurel]

Moon Lord is an alien

[spring helm]

Fovos’ cousin, Bovos

Bogos

Binted

[fading helm]

I imagine Fovos was like the boros

of terraria

well calamity

like peak alien strenght

[wheat walrus]

bobos

[fading helm]

the best you get in the outer space

[dusk laurel]

Peak ML was stronger than Noxus btw

[hybrid barn]

Hm...could be fair actually, Fovos had to have come from somewhere

[split mortar]

I think it is just distortion entities

But do remember last time an alien threat appeared it was a sentient extinction event the nuked the strongest civilisation on the world so even if it’s not a current problem preventative measures would be great

[fading helm]

yeah i know

[spring helm]

NOKOTAN??!!!?!!??

[wheat walrus]

[wheat walrus]

it seems

[dusk laurel]

clueling

[fading helm]

In my mind yharim is still N1 🙏

my emperor

[dusk laurel]

Yharim when he DIES of old age

[wheat walrus]

my glorious auric armor king

[dusk laurel]

[10 years]

[spring helm]

My reaction when I peel open the mask and Omni’s a fucking deer

[fading helm]

The king wont die till all gods are killed 🙏

-citizen n102

[split mortar]

Yharim dying of old age before my terrarian gets there (waited a year in fear)

[dusk laurel]

Peam

[fading helm]

its like that one metal gear boss

[wheat walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-satoru-satoru-gojo-gojo-jujutsu-kaisen-manga-gif-17386688786442927012

[split mortar]

Braelor is the bottom btw

[wheat walrus]

my glorious blue eyed king but it's yharim

[spring helm]

Yhinfinity

[faint plank]

what

[split mortar]

Are you aware of the god of space?

[wheat walrus]

yea

[split mortar]

Statis is the top in their relationship

[dusk laurel]

Yah

[fading helm]

I just know that god is fraud

[hot valve]

I think in the case of the martians, xeroc is probably jusy busy

[wheat walrus]

geometrical space btw

[dusk laurel]

^

[fading helm]

probs sub yharon lv

[wheat walrus]

clueless as hell

[faint plank]

braelor looked like a top
surprising

https://tenor.com/view/baby-seal-seal-baikal-seal-gif-15566586137516032972

[split mortar]

The only limit is that it has to be below scal

It’s stronger then every god but xeroc

[dusk laurel]

[hybrid barn]

Possible, maybe Noxus was getting a bit restless around then

[hot valve]

Iirc shakidou is somewhere between DoG and Calamitas/Exos

[fading helm]

I mean

[wheat walrus]

what is shakidou

[hybrid barn]

Who's that?

[fading helm]

my glorious king zeratros

was betta

[hot valve]

God of Space

That’s their name

[fading helm]

so he cant be that good

[split mortar]

God of space

[wheat walrus]

did they already give the dude a name

[dusk laurel]

?

[wheat walrus]

what the shrigma

[fading helm]

Oh wait its a god

then yeah

[split mortar]

Had name for ages

[fading helm]

maybe he is good since he has to only be below xeroc

[dusk laurel]

The name was given the same day it was revealed

[faint plank]

ig i can relate to brealor now

[hybrid barn]

I should have expected, Rebecca...

[spring helm]

Idk if the dragon of gravity has a name

[wheat walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-cat-feeder-cat-erm-hes-right-behind-me-cat-staring-at-cat-gif-4605633087107726495

[dusk laurel]

It doesn't

[hot valve]

‘2nd strongest god’ implies above providence btw

[wheat walrus]

pucci

[spring helm]

She says “every lore writer”
It’s not just Rebecca

[dusk laurel]

God of Space was the strongest

[fading helm]

silva no?

[dusk laurel]

before yk

[split mortar]

Above silva aswell

[fading helm]

yeah i mean

[hot valve]

God of Space is described as 2nd strongest

[fading helm]

silva is above providence no?

[dusk laurel]

No

[fading helm]

hm

[hot valve]

I think Silva is stronger than prov yeah?

[wheat walrus]

"before yk" xeroc is the first god dummy :p

[spring helm]

Shakidou exists to upscale Calamitas

[dusk laurel]

I forgor

[spring helm]

Since she’s stronger than the gods

[fading helm]

i mean

to what extent

[dusk laurel]

Xeroc was wiped from my memory

[split mortar]

We dunno, maybe not offensivly but in terms of actual magic power? I imagine so

[wheat walrus]

shakidou give us that galaxy buster feat rn

[spring helm]

And therefore also upscales Yharim, since he’s stronger than Cal

[fading helm]

does this hold up

[spring helm]

My agenda

Calagenda

[dusk laurel]

Yhargenda

[hybrid barn]

Also, I kind of wonder what the god of space can actually...do
Because I feel like it'd either be a bit underwhelming for their title, or it'd be so busted that it'd be a wonder that they're below Xeroc

[hot valve]

.

[fading helm]

It all leads back to FOVOS

the true goat

[wheat walrus]

bobos

[fading helm]

xeroc the sneak attack merchant

holds nothing

against my calamari goat

[hot valve]

Silva is ranked above providence here

[spring helm]

The three exo mechs together are stronger than all the gods except Xeroc, and Calamitas is on par with them

[dusk laurel]

I completely forgot this existed

[split mortar]

Yharim just punches through its soace warping idk

[dusk laurel]

[fading helm]

this is draedons assumption tho

[wheat walrus]

about calamari...

[split mortar]

Draedon had been with yharim when he killed soace god

[fading helm]

oh that god is dead

then yeah

[spring helm]

Yeah Shakidou is dead

[fading helm]

I assumed he was in space icl

[hot valve]

I’d love an addon that was the Shakidou fight tbh

[wheat walrus]

reb has an unofficial oc named calamari who stalemates with xeroc and both die

[split mortar]

Nah yharim beat the guy somehow as a fucking melee

[spring helm]

Again, exists to upscale Cal and Yharim

That’s why I said it

[fading helm]

Fovos would have won

[hot valve]

Fighting the God of Space just sounds like a really fun fight

[fading helm]

smh

[wheat walrus]

so true sigma

[spring helm]

Nuh uh Calamari’s the GOAT

[fading helm]

Fovos betta

[wheat walrus]

she had to take the power of stars n shi to kill therock

[fading helm]

just you wait till someone upscales him to universe+

[spring helm]

I wonder if Shakidou could open portals too

[split mortar]

Calamari is the squid but really really strong

[spring helm]

Perhaps not to the distortion but create wormholes in space

[split mortar]

I’d be surprised heavily if they can’t

[fading helm]

tbh i said calamari referencing octopus (calamar)

didnt know that was an oc

[hot valve]

Pretty sure portals is 1000% in Shakidou’s arsenal

My guess for their powers is more or less space stone from marvel

[fading helm]

sirius = shakidou confirmed

wait no it was sigmus

[spring helm]

Im thinking Blast from one punch man

[split mortar]

Want to know what rebecca thought made sense to TIE with xeroc ?

[fading helm]

what?

world soul ig

smth like that

[gritty kraken]

Does this mean the theory of me thinking the guy is noxus is 100% wrong now

[fading helm]

like their oc absorved

some part of a world soul

[dusk laurel]

The world soul has been gone

[split mortar]

Attuning to world soul
Attuning to the stars
Attuning to the ark of the cosmos
Being basically mahoraga

[fading helm]

i mean maybe in their fic

[wheat walrus]

yea lmao

[hybrid barn]

Y'know, I'm still curious as to what the "(except we suck at naming)" part is for

[dusk laurel]

Technically, auric souls would count as parts of it

[fading helm]

all that I see is that fovos solos

[wheat walrus]

she has inbuilt auric soul that lets her be mahoraga plus allat

fovos would win gang

[spring helm]

Draedon gets mad at the names we give the Mech trio

[dusk laurel]

ML is still weaker than xeroc smh

[fading helm]

wonder what did they do to ark of cosmos in their fic thoi

[wheat walrus]

fovi wins

[hybrid barn]

OHH-
Yeah, that's pretty funny

[light linden]

ngl

[fading helm]

Fovos woul win if he was in his actual prime

[split mortar]

Draedon calls us out for our shit naming abilities (Skeletron prime is especially hated)

[fading helm]

he only lost because he was homesick

trust

[hot valve]

Wait until you hear about Temponal, God of Time

[spring helm]

And also Miracle Matter

[hot valve]

(Just kidding)

[wheat walrus]

skeletron neo

[dusk laurel]

I was talking about it in its prime

[fading helm]

Our naming sense is goated draedon is just salty

[fading helm]

Hometown fovos is the true true prime

[light linden]

I really wanna try doing one of those corruption things but for calamity

[hot valve]

Wdym

[dusk laurel]

Skeletron Plus

[light linden]

partially to see what kind of bs I can get draedon to say

[fading helm]

what the corruption spreading?

[hybrid barn]

Like, he barely seems to care about most of anything on an emotional level, but then he hears about the names you came up with for his creations, and he's almost offended

[light linden]

have y'all never seen game corruption videoes?

[fading helm]

i dont think dreadon has lines about that

[gritty kraken]

Super stuff

[spring helm]

Canon

[fading helm]

I mean if I named a my highschool project as the ultra super santinus and then some bum changed its name

I would be mad too

[hot valve]

The terrarian also has a GARBAGE HP stat

[light linden]

@fading helm @hot valve I'm talking about corrupting the game files to see what happens in game

[spring helm]

True

[fading helm]

imma be real

i got no idea on that

[dusk laurel]

Yeah

We need to get better smh

[light linden]

we have the most glass cannon of glass cannon builds

[spring helm]

Everyone else can tank damage like crazy and Terrarian dies to a fucking tortoise

[fading helm]

Yharim better pass the secret on that 1.5M hp bro

🙏

[dusk laurel]

Yhauric fruit

[split mortar]

Xeroc pulling up with the 999.99% health

[hot valve]

The only reason the terrarian doesn’t die is because our defense stat is really good and enemy attacks do vastly less damage than our weapons

[dusk laurel]

Increases max HP by 1 million

[hybrid barn]

Nanomachines, son!
...and probably a lot of exercise, over a century of constant active warfare will do that to a guy

[wheat walrus]

yharic delight

[light linden]

this reminds me

[fading helm]

The fact that if draedon just used a moonlord tier weapon we would be cooked says a lot about his so called "intelligence"

[hot valve]

Like it’s genuinely funny that you can live a direct head attack from the devourer but 1 (one) bullet from tyranny’s end kills the terrarian 10 fold

[spring helm]

Which armour set gives the revive?

[hot valve]

Obviously this is more just for gameplay

[fading helm]

silva

[hot valve]

Silva

[spring helm]

I wonder what that looks like to watch

[fading helm]

You know re zeros intro

where subaru revives on a t pose

probs like that

everything just goes back together

[light linden]

what do y'all think would happen if yharim just wasn't aware of the terrarian's existence until like 10 minutes before our fight with him

[fading helm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1278448741979918351/1284979596164599858/togif.gif

this

he would be happy that we killed the remaining gods tho

[light linden]

you find out someone's apparently coming to kill you and has bested both calamitas and draedon

[fading helm]

Btw i really wonder

[light linden]

you think he would panic at all?

[hybrid barn]

Honestly, the funny thing about having super low health and defense compared to his usual target is that all he really needs to do is focus on making something with a large enough effect range to be practically unavoidable

Because at your scale, how weak an attack becomes from being spread out like that might not even matter

[fading helm]

what was calamitas doing

before we beat her

was she just going around

[dusk laurel]

being homeless

[fading helm]

maybe helping some low income household

[fading helm]

A cave is no small feat

[dusk laurel]

[Apparently she wasn't in a cave?]

#lore-discussion message

I think her not being in a cave makes more sense

[fading helm]

she probs sleep there one night

[dusk laurel]

Yeah

[fading helm]

Yeah but i really wonder what she was doing in the day

[dusk laurel]

But it isn't her home likely

[fading helm]

maybe just wandering around

[spring helm]

Is funny tho

[fading helm]

maybe just sulking idk

[dusk laurel]

Trueg

[wheat walrus]

she's the type of player to make underground bases in minecraft

dig her own cave

[fading helm]

fun to think about

[wheat walrus]

and honestly

that's based

[dusk laurel]

Yeah

[wheat walrus]

I also made cave bases in minecraft

[dusk laurel]

I'd do the same

[wheat walrus]

cave as in

[light linden]

same

[wheat walrus]

dig my own cave

[spring helm]

I am NOT rewriting the “Calamitas living in a cave” episode

[fading helm]

she digs 3 blocks deep and just stays there

until you summon

[dusk laurel]

[fading helm]

pass that brother

i wanna see it

🙏

[light linden]

I'm literally planning to make the entrati labs on a cobblemon surver

[hybrid barn]

It would be a little funny if up until you fight her, she'd just be living in little holes around the world, but you'd never find out because they'd be far down enough to be out of sight

[light linden]

15 points to whoever gets that reference btw

[split mortar]

They haven’t done the yhishing chapter yet sadge

[wheat walrus]

ye

[hot valve]

Around when did the crusade start to dissolve? It wasn’t too long ago yeah?

[fading helm]

Nah if you just walk around the surface you just see like her head at the bottom of the screen poking out on a hole

[fading helm]

😔

[hot valve]

Like immediately after the Braelor/Statis and Yharim duel he upgraded his armour and just kind of, dipped?

[gritty kraken]

angler fishing quest

[fading helm]

probs like 10 years ago

until calamitas stopped

[dusk laurel]

Ehh

[spring helm]

A little warning, this is set in my OC’s world so some stuff will be different (also due to how I interpreted some stuff)

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vPgmKaf-bGiVhL8EindOvdeKz2QL0k17Z2eQNFRwZSY/edit

[fading helm]

and then a lil more time

[spring helm]

IM WORKING ON IT

[dusk laurel]

Yharim was still kicking about before a year ago

[fading helm]

dw bro I have been starving for calamity fics

they are always a fun read

[split mortar]

AND I HOPE ITS GOING WELL AND ISNT BURNING YOU OUT!

[fading helm]

(Mainly cus the characters arent really charecterized tho)

[spring helm]

I got no idea how to end it tbh they’re literally just fishing

Jared boss fight I guess

[hot valve]

I wonder what like happened to Yharim’s army really

[dusk laurel]

True

[hybrid barn]

They died

[hot valve]

I don’t believe they are all dead

That sounds pretty unlikely

[split mortar]

Mark gets bored and bonks yharim to sleep and somehow ends up half buried by next morning idk

[hybrid barn]

I think a lot of them had their souls repurposed into the mech trio

[spring helm]

I gotta rewrite a bit with the Angler because I forgot that bro was living inside a Thrasher for a while and wrote that he never went to the Sulphurous Sea

[fading helm]

wonder why calamitas wasnt dealing with the threats like mechs and all, I get she dont really care but still i dont know if there is anything better to do in her life

like there gotta be some fun thing to do

maybe she sews

[spring helm]

Depression ig

[fading helm]

she conviniently waits till we are just around her level to beat

definition of sloth

my goat petelguese

betta

[spring helm]

I’m pretty sure she just had a panic attack after seeing the auric Tesla armour and jumped us

[split mortar]

She can only walk 2 kilometres before needing a days rest

[split mortar]

Oh yeah perhaps

[fading helm]

mages are not know for their physical abilities tbf

[fading helm]

true

[hot valve]

Iirc someone said that Calamitas is as strong as a normal human and that her shield is the only reason she doesn’t fold to one attack vs the terrarian

[split mortar]

And Calamitas is the girlfail of all girlfaisl

[hot valve]

This is genuinely so funny to me

[fading helm]

I mean its true tho

[spring helm]

Calamitas cannot fry an egg

[fading helm]

she a mage

[wheat walrus]

pretty sure that's just the devs saying

because scal isn't physically strong

just magic power

[hot valve]

It makes sense

[fading helm]

She is defo a bum

in household duties

I know for a fact that cave had no decorations at all

[hot valve]

Does the fight end with us destroying the shield (hence her just immediately folding) or does she just
Give up

[fading helm]

and was dirty as hell

[split mortar]

Has to rely on her brothers to do the chores

[spring helm]

I wrote a short bit on my Terrarian baiting Calamitas into punching him and she hurts herself doing it

[fading helm]

Dont think she would actually like to summon her brothers tbh

unless necessary

maybe the household chores do fit that tho

[hot valve]

Calamitas hit by terraria silence and didn’t have Nazar equipped, max selling

[split mortar]

Drops something under side of bed

Needs cataclysm lift the bed

[fading helm]

btw do yall put calamitas and permafrost on a wooden box or do some speficit build

[hot valve]

Wait Nazar is cursed not silence

Whatever

[split mortar]

I box because I ain’t a builder

[fading helm]

it always cracks me up when you see calamitas and other op ahh dudes just hanging around people like the guide

on a big box

[hot valve]

I put Calamitas in my house because she is my Friend

👍

[spring helm]

Calamitas is the only person I built a nice house for in my completed playthrough

Permafrost still lives in a box

[dusk laurel]

So cool

[hot valve]

That is a cool box

Hi cheese

[pliant ruin]

hii

[hot valve]

How are you my eepy friend

[dusk laurel]

Cheese jumpscare

[spring helm]

Hold up, her building is fire?

[fading helm]

Maybe all buildings in terraria are box tiers

[fading helm]

lv25 box is this for example

mine is like

lv5

[trim edge]

i only just read this

[hybrid barn]

Moreso, I'm interested in the way you summon Calamitas
Like, do you physically summon her with using ashes at the altar, or does it just alert her to your presence?

[spring helm]

Boss summons aren’t canon

[split mortar]

Lore wise she just jumps you randomly

[hot valve]

^

[fading helm]

You just walking around

get thrown into a fight

like in the far horizon

[light linden]

codebreaker is though iirc

[hot valve]

A lot of bosses actually jump you randomly

[fading helm]

you see some siluete

then boom

[split mortar]

Like you’re just vibing

Then suddenly the environment feels off. Then boom scal throwing fire at you

[fading helm]

box

[hybrid barn]

Oh okay, fair
I guess it makes sense that boss summons aren't canon, that one in particular just felt like the most likely to be

[spring helm]

Terrarian, getting groceries: “I wonder what I should have for dinner tonight.”

Calamitas: “I FUCKING HATE YOU DIIIEEEEEE”

[hot valve]

I think ravager being summoned is actually going to be canon though, because you go up to the altar (and it’s kind of already there)

[fading helm]

what altar

[hot valve]

Future content

[fading helm]

oh alr

[spring helm]

Where is twerking ravager

[dusk laurel]

[split mortar]

The Ravager rework

[fading helm]

This is not future content unc

[hot valve]

Heard dev talk that ravager is going to be in a cathedral near the crags apparently

[light linden]

💀

[pliant ruin]

tired

just woke up

[dusk laurel]

Yah

[hot valve]

Ohh the waker upper

[pliant ruin]

probably gonna take a shower soon

[split mortar]

Sent to horny jail (quotes)

[light linden]

just realized btw

[fading helm]

I wonder if the villagers pester calamitas, almidias, permafrost and other custom npcs

[hybrid barn]

And it was funny to imagine if it was a physical summon
Like, it's late in the day, she's just about getting ready to settle in and sleep for the night, then suddenly she just appears at your base

[fading helm]

like "Can you help me fix my freezer"

smth like that

[light linden]

did all azafurians have ash brown skin and horns?

[fading helm]

very funny to me

[light linden]

or is that just calamitas?

[dusk laurel]

No

Not just Calamitas either

[split mortar]

Uh I think? We don’t have any other azafurians to compare

[hot valve]

I know someone absolutely goes up to permafrost and asks him for more ice for their drink

[split mortar]

That’s his dialogue in a party iirc

[fading helm]

According to a fanfic that i now consider canon because its goated no

[hybrid barn]

It was recently revealed that the Guide was an Azafurian, so it might just be a side effect of her magic

[split mortar]

Popcorns?

[light linden]

I feel like he'd pull a froslass if someone did that

[fading helm]

"Can you put a fire on the grill calamitas 🙏 "

[fading helm]

nah some rezero crossover fanfic

[hot valve]

Oh I just thought the guide had “colleagues” and a wife from azafure

[fading helm]

re supreme

i think

i need to get back on it tbhj

[hot valve]

But him being azafurian makes a lot more sense actually lol

[split mortar]

Same

[light linden]

now I'm thinking of australian calamitas

and I hate it

[split mortar]

That would vaporise the grill

[fading helm]

Calamitas is extremely scared of bugs and puts the house on fire every time she sees a slightly big spider

[fading helm]

Im sure she can control it no?

[hot valve]

Part of Calamitas’ problem is her destructive power is hard to control iirc

Permafrost helped a lot with that

[split mortar]

The magma in crags is as hot as the surface of the irl sun so I imagine not good enough control to not burn the grill in seconds

[light linden]

is it true that calamitas is attuned to the brimstone elemental btw?

[hot valve]

The terrarian being capable of just taking a dip in that is crazy btw

[pliant ruin]

no

[fading helm]

this just means the pestering gets redirected at permafrost 😔

[pliant ruin]

that's a theory though

but not outright confirmed

[split mortar]

We can stand 0.1 millimetres away and not get hurt

[fading helm]

Yall think we can cook almidias

[dusk laurel]

No

[pliant ruin]

hes like

a person

[fading helm]

its a fish

[split mortar]

No more calamity eating discussion please it’s overdone

[fading helm]

a very large and human fish

[dusk laurel]

No eating sentient life please

[fading helm]

Oh true he was sentient

[split mortar]

Ah so ravager is fine

[split mortar]

Is

[hot valve]

He speaks to you???

[dusk laurel]

[fading helm]

Is providence sentient?

[hybrid barn]

I mean, for as low as your defense is compared to your enemies, you aren't particularly weak!
It's very possible to take a head on hit from DoG and not die, which is a feat in itself

[dusk laurel]

yes

[fading helm]

I dont think they got any dialogue no

[hot valve]

Providence is very sentient

[split mortar]

Amidias literally is the only reason we know attuned people can touch auric iirc

[fading helm]

whatttt

[hot valve]

Providence is confirmed to speak in the bestiary entry

[dusk laurel]

Providence is definitely sentient

[light linden]

can we? yes.
is it moral? no.
will I beat you with a hammer if you say something like that again? yes.

[split mortar]

Yeah one dialogue of it

[pliant ruin]

Providence just dosen't speak to us because uhhh she's a hater idk

[fading helm]

Sentient as in human lv

[sinful adder]

Is this confirmed? It could it refer to the calamity sun?

[pliant ruin]

yes

provi is literally a human

[split mortar]

It’s referring to the bubbles mantis shroom make when punching

[fading helm]

I though she went crazy or sum

[hot valve]

Well, was a human

[split mortar]

And it’s from bestiary

[fading helm]

because it was weird there was no speaking done

[hybrid barn]

Would that be moral? Yes.

[hot valve]

Actually was it even confirmed providence was a human pre ascension

[sinful adder]

I know

[light linden]

just realized something

[hot valve]

Like technically she could have been any mortal race right

[fading helm]

as long as she could do the ritual yes

[light linden]

do we know if permafrost has children?

[fading helm]

i dont think he has

[tropic oak]

he does not

[dusk laurel]

We don know

[light linden]

he's pretty old

[hot valve]

Adopted daughter Calamitas

[pliant ruin]

biological no

[split mortar]

It refers to the magma not the cal sun, we don’t know how hot that is comparatively to anything

[tropic oak]

true

[fading helm]

What was their relation at the endgame btw? I remember they didnt like being next to eachother in houses but i don remember how

[light linden]

random thing btw

[pliant ruin]

thats outdated dialogue

[split mortar]

She could be any race that had the means to kill a dragon and be sapient enough to ascend

[hybrid barn]

Y'know, I also kind of wonder if any of the other elementals were interested in being gods
Like, would Brimmy have been upset when Providence became the goddess of fire?

[hot valve]

The npcs likes and dislikes will Defintiely be changed

[fading helm]

what part

[pliant ruin]

all of it

[dusk laurel]

All

[pliant ruin]

like

[hot valve]

Currently amidias forgives Calamitas

[pliant ruin]

all npc dialogue is outdated

[hot valve]

This will be HEAVILY altered

[fading helm]

SO PEAKK

[dusk laurel]

Amidias has some new lore dialogue already

[light linden]

I zoned out for a sec and thought you said "Adopted Draedon"

[hot valve]

Amidias absolutely will despise Calamitas

[dusk laurel]

But he's also getting more

[split mortar]

O…

[fading helm]

Does this mean he will change from good to bad towards calamitas

in housing

or neutral

[hot valve]

Yes

[pliant ruin]

I don't think adidas will despise calamitas tbh
i do hope it becomes more complex

[hot valve]

Hatred

[fading helm]

so peak

[split mortar]

Probably Hate

[pliant ruin]

but i dont think h'll despise her

unless that was confirmed

would be cool to have an actual arc

[hot valve]

Iirc I heard a dev say he will become despise

[fading helm]

Idk but always felt off that none really cared about what she did

[pliant ruin]

of him initially disliking

yeah thats definitely strange

[light linden]

that is a memory I'll never get out of my head

[pliant ruin]

but amidias dosen't come off

[tropic oak]

adopt a draedon

[fading helm]

well this more so because there are like 2 custom npcs tbf

[pliant ruin]

as the type of guy that'd despise someone for that, knowing the context of her situation

[dusk laurel]

I agree that Amidias should dislike or hate Calamitas at first

[pliant ruin]

yeah if there was

an actual arc

that'd be cool

but idk how they'd handle a character arc in calamity mod terraria

[split mortar]

I mean

A decade of therapyless sorrow where to your knowledge like mainly 1 person is the cause of your whole life being destroyed

And now they’re next door neighbours

I imagine the arc of forgiveness would start now not before meeting her

[fading helm]

If i was some dude from terraria I would defo not forgive none from yharims place tbh

permafrost either

[split mortar]

Not even the manipulates child soldiers?

[dusk laurel]

Perma didn't participate in the war tho

[fading helm]

no

[dusk laurel]

he was just an adivisor

[hot valve]

Permafrost was a tactician iirc

Yeah

[fading helm]

Didnt he? I mean he was around long enough to act as calamitas teacher

[fading helm]

I mean that just means he did tactics for it too

[split mortar]

He is a non combatant

[hot valve]

He also left pretty soon after Yharim was being quite tyrannical

[dusk laurel]

^

[fading helm]

we dont know the reason tho

specially because he left quite late in the war

and hes old

[split mortar]

Probably the use of his adoptive daughter as a super weapon idk

[fading helm]

so i assume he was ther for what

20 years

[hot valve]

Permafrost likely joined because at the beginning, Yharim’s doing was actually good (Killing horrible tyrant gods would only get him praise)

But Yharim’s actual goal is full genocide

[dusk laurel]

Perma was there for a while

He's 200+ years old

[hot valve]

This likely wasn’t revealed to people intentionally

[fading helm]

Yeah thats why I mean he knew about the genocide stuff

[split mortar]

Perma joined before the crusade caught on iirc

[fading helm]

i doubt he didnt know

[fading helm]

Oh tought he was like 70 years max

[split mortar]

Like he was there for before azafure joined yharim iirc

[fading helm]

didnt know h was 200x

[fading helm]

even worse for him

[split mortar]

Permafrost is older then yharim

[light linden]

he's like 200 years old

[tropic oak]

Permafrost was an old ally of Yharim’s. His wisdom guided Yharim’s original conquests, making much of them possible at all. However, as Yharim’s crusade evolved and his ambitions grew, Permafrost expressed vehement disapproval.

[light linden]

also

[dusk laurel]

Yeah

Yharim started by killing more malevolent gods

[fading helm]

Thing is he left at like the last 20 years

of crusade

[light linden]

if scal is like 25 and it nearly twice as strong as permafrost

[fading helm]

so im pretty sure he knew about the genocides

and all that

unless they were exclusive to last 20 years

[light linden]

imagine how strong scal will be when she's 200

[tropic oak]

also

interesting to note

Permafrost came across the Tundra and amplified the climate marginally, hence its unnatural state. However, His NPC states that the Tundra’s unnatural state is not ALL of his doing.

[split mortar]

He left then scal shortly left

[dusk laurel]

I don't think she will last that long

[tropic oak]

well

[hot valve]

If you kill some terrible gods literally everyone will be happy about your actions
It’s an extremely good propaganda method

[tropic oak]

dont calamitas and yharim come from the same place

[dusk laurel]

Dragon of Frost likely

[tropic oak]

azafire

fure

bleh

[dusk laurel]

Azafure

[fading helm]

I remember the old lore where it was some cool old dude that wanted inmortality

he was really cool tbh

[split mortar]

We dunno where yharim from iirc

[tropic oak]

i mean

fi they come from the same place

[dusk laurel]

Calamitas is negatively affected by using her magic

[tropic oak]

then Calamitas will surely be as old as yharim

[dusk laurel]

Yharim has attunement as well

[split mortar]

^

[tropic oak]

sorry for misspellings im in the middle of a tf2 match

LO

[split mortar]

And he works out

[light linden]

isn't yharim a lihzahrd?

[fading helm]

Dont teleport bread 🙏

[tropic oak]

no

[dusk laurel]

No

[split mortar]

Old lore

[fading helm]

old lore

[dusk laurel]

REALLY old lore

[tropic oak]

hes a human and or azafurian iirc

[light linden]

oh

[fading helm]

Its actually yharim race

[split mortar]

Azafurian is a race of human

[fading helm]

its a race of yharims

[dusk laurel]

Azafurians are humans yeah

[hot valve]

They are?

[dusk laurel]

Yep

[tropic oak]

i also like how yharim isnt even his real name

[hot valve]

I mean they. Have horns

[fading helm]

I think all intelligent dudes are human no?

[tropic oak]

thats some real shit

[fading helm]

oh wait no amidias

[split mortar]

Scal is a human, so are catastrophe rand cataclysm

[dusk laurel]

Nah

[fading helm]

i think it was merfolk humans

what more

[split mortar]

Lihzards, illmerians and dragons as examples

[hot valve]

Huh
Wild

[light linden]

amidias is wearing a fish costume confirmed

[dusk laurel]

There were many sentient races in Ilmeris

[tropic oak]

The Azafurians
The Azafurans are coated in ashen gray skin, akin to that of the underworld.

Revered the Brimstone Elemental.

they may be just grey humans

[fading helm]

Amidias race, dragons, humans what more

[tropic oak]

lol

[fading helm]

lihzards are like

[split mortar]

Goblins

[fading helm]

stone age dudes

they cant talk

oh wait no

was it diff language maybe?

[hot valve]

Erm

[dusk laurel]

Amidias is a seadragon

[hot valve]

The witch doctor?

[light linden]

witch doctor

[split mortar]

They made a post plantera idol powered by some solar energy

[dusk laurel]

😭

They had a whole civilization

[tropic oak]

the only other current lore official languages I believe are Draedonese and whatever the hell the dragons spoke

[split mortar]

Illmerians are like 7 soecies in one kingdom

[fading helm]

I may have underestimated their technological prowess

[split mortar]

Draconic

[light linden]

draedonese

[tropic oak]

english is the norm in terraria iirc

[tropic oak]

that is literally what its called i shit you not

[fading helm]

English universal language

[light linden]

fun fact btw

[split mortar]

Hell there’s a chance it’s a artificial god

[hot valve]

What the hell is draedonese

Excuse me

[light linden]

the usa exists in calamity because of the old fashioned

[dusk laurel]

Idfk

What is draedonese

[fading helm]

alr imma go to finish hw hope i can do it in 2 hours

[split mortar]

Yeah wtf draedonese

[fading helm]

see you all later

[gritty kraken]

Check out their temple bricks durability

[split mortar]

Bye good luck

[tropic oak]

draedonese is what draedon's dialect is

he made it iirc

[light linden]

???

you mean encryption?

[tropic oak]

Universal: English - The standard language used throughout the realm of Terraria for most, if not all, to communicate with one another.
Draedonese: Draedon’s Language - The language used by Draedon and his creations.

Draconic: ???

[dusk laurel]

Where was this?

[split mortar]

Whar

[tropic oak]

you guys didnt know it was called draedonese

[hot valve]

Ngl Draedon making a whole language that only he can speak sounds extremely pointless because it wouldn’t serve any purpose

Unless draedonese is fucking binary

[tropic oak]

there is an entire font of it

sob

[light linden]

?????

[dusk laurel]

Source please

[tropic oak]

also like

the font is

SOMEWHERE

[dusk laurel]

Uhh

Not a dev

[tropic oak]

its called draedonese i have been calling it that for years

[hot valve]

Wait it’s a font not a language from this

[tropic oak]

if you have any other sources claiming its different please do show

[light linden]

I

how do

[dusk laurel]

Okay so a headcanon

[tropic oak]

its draedonese

[split mortar]

Yeah binary is the only option I can think of

But then that would mean draedon is called bina or someshit of binary but less letters to our world

[light linden]

How do I respond

[split mortar]

Lore got reworked not even 2 years ago

[tropic oak]

literally everyone calls it draedonese

i assure you its draedonese

[split mortar]

Whar

[dusk laurel]

That's 3 people,,,

[split mortar]

I have not seen that before said anywhere huh

[dusk laurel]

[tropic oak]

from a dev

i know what i am talking about

[dusk laurel]

Merkalto,,,,

He doesn't lore

[split mortar]

Whar

[tropic oak]

yeah theres the font

[light linden]

I just wanna say

the only source I'm finding is reddit and the fandom

[tropic oak]

from a dev ^^^^^

read

[split mortar]

Oh maybe it’s a font used when draedon had the Twitter account

[split mortar]

Idk

[tropic oak]

from shade

[dusk laurel]

Merkalto is not a lore writer

Shade also isn't a lore writer

[hot valve]

“Vraiment”

[tropic oak]

from memes

[hot valve]

HE’S FRENCH?

[tropic oak]

they literally all call it draedonese

just admit u were wrong brah

[dusk laurel]

I think you are taking things too literally

[split mortar]

Rebecca, cei and stip are the lore writers

[dusk laurel]

Reddit user.

[tropic oak]

from stipulate

i also do not use reddit thank you i literally js looked it up

^^

its draedonese

[dusk laurel]

How is this confirmation at all 😭

[tropic oak]

they literally all call it draedonese

[split mortar]

Only thing I can think it is is just straight binary but called weird

[dusk laurel]

This was pre-rewrite

[tropic oak]

its still draedonese

[split mortar]

Also weird it’s not been mentioned in major updates if it’s been fully fledged for fucking ages

[dusk laurel]

I think Draedonese was a funny project that was made by the community from the looks of it

[split mortar]

Can’t we just ping a lore writer

And ask?

[dusk laurel]

Yeah

[light linden]

rebecca?

[sinful adder]

draedonese is fake, reddit is wrong about everything

[tropic oak]

LOL

[sinful adder]

...probably

[light linden]

aren't they the one who did the draedon stuff?

[split mortar]

@spare pier sorry for ping but what’s with draedonese? We bit confused on it having existed

[sinful adder]

also, azafurians are humans, humans just sometimes have horns in calamity

[dusk laurel]

I think Draedon would explode if he called it Draedonese

So it is definitely not real

[light linden]

imagine if we called it draedon in front of him

[dusk laurel]

[light linden]

dude would prolly short circuit

[dusk laurel]

He already gets annoyed by our mech boss names and miracle matter

[hot valve]

Me when i walk up to Thanatos and name it “Olbiterator”

[light linden]

I'm surprised he doesn't take the name miracle matter as a compliment

[split mortar]

“Draedonese”
“Skeletron neo”
“Exo twins”

“fuck you”

[spring helm]

Super duper destroyer

[light linden]

we're literally calling his work a miracle

[dusk laurel]

Exo eyes

[split mortar]

Supreme eater of worlds

[tropic oak]

im telling you its draedonese sob

[dusk laurel]

Keep sobbing smh

[split mortar]

Yeah but it’s not scientifically accurate

Also we made miracle matter stable not him

[tropic oak]

multiple devs calling it draedonese
font is literally called draedonese
mfw

[light linden]

XB-∞ Hekate has awoken!

[sinful adder]

you learned this from an unreliable source, we know this because we frequently interact with the lore writers here

[split mortar]

Draedon would canonically hate that name though

[dusk laurel]

2 of the devs you mentioned are not lore writers...

[hybrid barn]

"Oh hey, Draedon, I just studied your language recently! Now I'm profidient in Draedonese"

"...excuse me?"

"You know, your language? Draedone-"

"Don't make me grab my pulse rifle"

[sinful adder]

maybe there's something called draedonese? but it isn't a canon name

[tropic oak]

if you have any other source telling me its not draedonese please link it to me

[dusk laurel]

And the other joins in on jokes a lot

[light linden]

we're waiting on word from rebecca

[sinful adder]

yeah

[split mortar]

I pinged Rebecca so hopefully we get clearance on this soon

[light linden]

who I'm pretty sure is the person who wrote draedon lore

also

[sinful adder]

oh btw I'm like 90% sure the update that added the exo mechs was done when old lore was still a thing?

[dusk laurel]

Yeah

[sinful adder]

so if its related to that, it's not canon anymore

[light linden]

drunk princess isn't canon right?

[split mortar]

Yeah, the lore item was basically “this is the height of what draedon can make right Now” or something

[spring helm]

Fabsol’s self insert is canon in my heart

[split mortar]

No

[split mortar]

The one person able to solo mark

[dusk laurel]

Drunk Princess can be canon if you remove like half the dialogue

[light linden]

I like the concept of an alchemist who just dumps alcohol in their potions tbh

[spring helm]

Weakness identified: non-descript children’s cartoon about friendship and ponies

[split mortar]

Mark about to win

Universe fucking crashes

[dusk laurel]

Unicorns are real

[light linden]

who is mark?

[spring helm]

Not too far off tbh Mark is weak against the Power of Friendship

[split mortar]

Popcorns oc

It’s more comedy so them being able to solo the likes of full power moonlord with pre ml gear isn’t all that much a problem

[hybrid barn]

Never was there a better marksman

[spring helm]

Send the Markiplier bit

[light linden]

who is markiplier?

[dusk laurel]

Hwar

[spring helm]

[dusk laurel]

[split mortar]

Popular as fuck YouTuber

[dusk laurel]

Markiplier is a beast

[light linden]

oh wait them

I haven't watched them since pre lockdown

[split mortar]

Wait does mark beat yharim in their first fight?

[spring helm]

He beats Yharim’s head in with a rock

[split mortar]

Pretty sure they do but they have

As their gear

[split mortar]

Ah makes sense

[light linden]

is it xeroc's rock?

[split mortar]

No

A random rock from the aerie I think

[spring helm]

I mean, Xeroc’s rock is just rock carved from the Aerie so not too far off?

[light linden]

how pissed do y'all think yharim would get if I threw xeroc's rock at him?

[spring helm]

Very

[split mortar]

Prob wouldn’t know WTF it is

[light linden]

Istg

[spring helm]

Throw the Terminus at Yharim lol

[split mortar]

[light linden]

I would pay the devs like 5k to make that happen

[split mortar]

Do you have that thing of yharim throwing a mini star thing at mark? Maybe the at would do a good intro idk

[hybrid barn]

Y'know, I think the existence of the rock is actually a bit funny to think about
Like, did he drop by the Aerie recently just to break off a rock and give it to you? Did he just happen to carve himself one before he ascended and kept it on him for hundreds of years?

[light linden]

the latter iirc

[spring helm]

Intro?

[split mortar]

Like a introduction to marks just everything

[vast stump]

No one is answering me in the other chat so, Is calamity just not optimized for multiplayer?

[spring helm]

The latter, it’s a keepsake from way back in the day

[hybrid barn]

Huh, that's actually almost a bit sweet

[split mortar]

Uh, multiplayer in general is a bit buggy but calamity is prob not perfectly optimised but from my experience it should be fine 90% of the time

[spring helm]

So, chapter one starts off like this?

[hybrid barn]

Or depends, it was funny to think about at first because it kind of made me think of him being one of those people that break pieces off the foundations of celebrities' houses to take them home, but it's a little sweet if it was just to keep something as a reminder of his life as a monk

[tropic oak]

bro pulled up ao3

[split mortar]

Yeah that one

I know it’s not chapter 1 though

[split mortar]

It’s a Google doc

[spring helm]

Yeah it’s my google doc

[tropic oak]

close enough

[split mortar]

Yharim and yharon team up on mark and sammy when

[spring helm]

Anyway here’s a segment of the actual chapter 1, which is the only thing I’ve really finished from the main narrative. Everything else has been short snippets since I can’t write a continuous series for the life of me

And here’s how it ends

[light linden]

Dante?

Warframe reference?

[spring helm]

That’s what I named the Arms Dealer

[split mortar]

Oooohhh

Ok

[spring helm]

I just pick from the list of names in their wiki page

[split mortar]

(How’d mark teleport without being unteleported by existence)

[spring helm]

Except Sofia the Princess, I took that from Sofia the First

[hybrid barn]

Wait, that's the Arms Dealer talking? Damn

[spring helm]

No that’s Mark talking, this is just their first meeting so the NPCs are really suspicious of him

[tropic oak]

well

guess that works

[spring helm]

Yeah that sounds about right

[hybrid barn]

Oh okay! I guess that makes sense, I'd probably also be suspicious of someone who introduces themself like that

[spring helm]

Might fuck around and name the Zoologist “Sherry” just because I like the song by the Four Seasons

[split mortar]

Yeah makes sense

[dusk laurel]

Yeah, i doubt Draedon would call it that anyways

I looked at the file, and yeah Draedon uses it, but there's no official name yet afaik

[tropic oak]

im still rollin with draedonese then

l o l

[dusk laurel]

I've seen it in trailers and ingame

[light linden]

just realized

is omega blue armor even canon?

[spring helm]

i dont see why not

it's not a dedicated item

[light linden]

hmm