probably
#lore-discussion
random mulch
light linden
Basically the astral infection took over someone and is using them like a pillar for their hive mind to coordinate their efforts to ultimately create a black hole
and the fight involves you fighting the 'pillar' and hordes of buffed astral infection enemies
random mulch
sentient beings cant get infected
light linden
sentient beings cant get infected
yeah that's what I thought
split mortar
sentient beings cant get infected
Brain damage to the point they aren’t sapient enough to resist maybe
light linden
but apparently there's no info about what happens if someone is exposed long term or what happens if someone tries to become infected
river python
well,
if there is no boss with astral infection post-dog
that means every being superior or equal to DoG
light linden
if there is no boss with astral infection post-dog
I'm making an add-on
river python
that means every being superior or equal to DoG
its more stronger than the infection
and cannot be controlled
wheat walrus
that's not even how it works
you can even be xeroc but if you are no sapient being you cannot be infected
river python
that's not even how it works
it's just logic
wheat walrus
no :/
the only way to not get infected by the astral infection that we know of is specifically stated to just be
be smort
very smort
human-like smort
river python
so a normal human cannot be infected?
wheat walrus
yes a human can't be infected normally unless idk it's a fucking baby
at least for all I am aware, it's mainly about sapient like a human is
river python
hmm
devout grotto
Speaking of infection
I still can't get the idea of Rage and Adrenaline being negative energies from the Crimson and Corruption respectively that were converted into stuff more useful for the Terrarian (or at least. My Terrarian)
light linden
so a normal human cannot be infected?
we don't know 100% for certain
just being in the astral infection? we're immune to that method of infection
split mortar
The biome is just a bunch of stinky magic I think and the mind control and voices talking about the cosmos is a natural occurance I think ?
devout grotto
I still can't get the idea of Rage and Adrenaline being negative energies from t...
In my interpretation, usually sentient beings ending up in the evil biomes get affected really badly, whether physically, mentally or both, which is why regular people need some sort of equipment if they wanna go there
light linden
just being in the astral infection? we're immune to that method of infection
consuming infected matter or being blasted by a culex's core? we don't know
river python
I still don't understand very well how the astral infection was formed.
devout grotto
In my interpretation, usually sentient beings ending up in the evil biomes get a...
For whatever reason, my Terrarian's not able to get that kind of stuff so they had to rely on the Dryad's protecting magic (which unfortunately isn't enough)
river python
star gets really big and it starts decaying
yep, but Astrum Deus Eats it, how Astrum Deus got infected?
light linden
stars are concentrated mana in universe btw
river python
Your job is to eat those stars that died
light linden
yep, but Astrum Deus Eats it, how Astrum Deus got infected?
yes
split mortar
I still don't understand very well how the astral infection was formed.
Stars exist in orbit and are clumps of mana
If a star exists too long it will bloat and get infected
Deus ate a infected star and threw the star at the planet and the star burning in entry caused the astral mana to land on everything within the vacinity
That’s it I think
light linden
stars are concentrated mana in universe btw
the astral infection is basically half decayed and semi-conscious mana
river python
Stars exist in orbit and are clumps of mana
If a star exists too long it will b...
it cannot be, because Astrum Deus, eats dead starts, okay?, but how he got infected
now Astrum Deus protect the astral infection because he is infected
He threw the infection onto the planet, when the astral infection infected it.
split mortar
it cannot be, because Astrum Deus, eats dead starts, okay?, but how he got infec...
If left alone long enough the infection forms in the stars and Deus ate a star that was left alone for too long
wheat walrus
it cannot be, because Astrum Deus, eats dead starts, okay?, but how he got infec...
astrum deus eats stars before they infect
:/
devout grotto
For whatever reason, my Terrarian's not able to get that kind of stuff so they h...
Eventually, exposure to stuff from the Crimson and Corruption, well, corrupts them
light linden
it cannot be, because Astrum Deus, eats dead starts, okay?, but how he got infec...
basically
you know how we eat dead animals right?
river python
astrum deus eats stars before they infect
so he did bad his own job
and he got infected by that
sleek halo
it cannot be, because Astrum Deus, eats dead starts, okay?, but how he got infec...
Draedon hypothesizes that Deus is a young member of his species, and didn’t understand that it was already too late
wheat walrus
so he did bad his own job
the astrum deus we know eating an infected star is, according to Draedon, a mistake that very young specimen of Astrum Deus can do
river python
it isn't a job
the whisper says that
devout grotto
Eventually, exposure to stuff from the Crimson and Corruption, well, corrupts th...
For reasons I have yet to write, they eventually convert those energies into Rage and Adrenaline respectively
split mortar
the whisper says that
Yharim isn’t a great source for most things
sleek halo
the astrum deus we know eating an infected star is, according to Draedon, a mist...
not confirmed that he is
a species
river python
Yharim isn’t a great source for most things
oh well
wheat walrus
not confirmed that he is
whar
sleek halo
Draedon is just making a guess
devout grotto
(Idek if these ramblings of mine are canon-compliant but if they aren't I could save them for a vanilla story ig)
sleek halo
i don’t think he fully confirms that other members
sleek halo
of deus exists
wheat walrus
Draedon is just making a guess
yes that's what I said dummy
river python
If Draedon gives his opinion, I listen.
wheat walrus
"according to Draedon"
light linden
you know how we eat dead animals right?
fresh meat when cooked is fine, but meat that has been left to sit around gets moldy and becomes toxic for us
sleek halo
"according to Draedon"
I saw that, the concern is that ppl uh
can take his word as fact
light linden
fresh meat when cooked is fine, but meat that has been left to sit around gets m...
what deus did was the equivalent of eating moldy meat
river python
fresh meat when cooked is fine, but meat that has been left to sit around gets m...
raw salmon is the good thing that ever happened to the humanity
wheat walrus
I saw that, the concern is that ppl uh
sigma
light linden
he doesn't have a reason to tbf
split mortar
actively lie
And is stpuidly knowledgeable about a lot
light linden
yharim has a reason
sleek halo
a long time to live
light linden
draedon doesn't
split mortar
a long time to live
Especially for a super intelligent ai that’s a long time to gain knowledge
sleek halo
yeah
like i imagine draedon has like
the best map of the world
by far
since for a long time he just scouted iirc
sleek halo
an AI
sleek halo
Well there was a dead guy in the room where Draedon woke up
deft vessel
There are theories
sleek halo
So presumably that guy
split mortar
who created Draedon so
We dunno, might be himself with a bad conscience transfer but we don’t know for sure
deft vessel
Many the dead guy transfered their mind into Draedon
river python
Many the dead guy transfered their mind into Draedon
that have very sense
untold oracle
Or the mind transfer was intentionally removing the memories to not hinder research
split mortar
Maybe
deft vessel
I still like the Daedalus theory tho
split mortar
I still like the Daedalus theory tho
Neither are contradictory I think
fierce pagoda
I theorized that Dreadon did something similar to what Dr Gero from Dragon ball did, and it turned out i was halfway correct
deft vessel
So perhaps Daedalus was dying and to extend his life he transfered his mind into Draedon
split mortar
Sadly Daedalus gear getting renamed eventually iirc
deft vessel
Yes iirc
fierce pagoda
Deadalus stormbow
light linden
still hate the nerfs for it
split mortar
The nerfs?
fierce pagoda
Its still viable for mechs
light linden
The nerfs?
calamity nerfs it iirc
split mortar
Oh didn’t know it was nerfed
fierce pagoda
oh i thought you meant the vanilla nerfs
river python
what material is the material that is dropped by the DoG?
untold oracle
Cosmilite
split mortar
Armour
untold oracle
Armour
split mortar
Might be a liquid normally iirc
fierce pagoda
liquid at distortion temperature maybe
river python
okay makes sense
fierce pagoda
and when its in our world it turns solid
light linden
liquid at distortion temperature maybe
issue
fierce pagoda
theory
light linden
the future rework kinda invalidates that
split mortar
and when its in our world it turns solid
Dog will wear armour in distortion when rework happens
fierce pagoda
or its just Dreadon tampering
light linden
Dog will wear armour in distortion when rework happens
split mortar
or its just Dreadon tampering
Probably that
river python
so the exo things, are make of, Cosmilite, Bloodstone, Uelilbloom and Auric, isn't it?
river python
so the exo things, are make of, Cosmilite, Bloodstone, Uelilbloom and Auric, isn...
and other material we don't know
light linden
exo prisms?
no they're made of sea prisms
miracle matter is something they give off and we stabilize it with auric and other similar stuff
river python
exo prisms?
exomechanics are supposed to be made of the same material as the armor of Yharim, The Exo-Auric Tesla
spring helm
They’re not
river python
so whats are they materials
river python
exomechanics are supposed to be made of the same material as the armor of Yharim...
i'm sure i read something like that
split mortar
They can’t use auric cause auric doesn’t care if you’re a robot it will explode you
spring helm
We know they have cosmilite, but we don’t know what else Draedon put in the alloy
light linden
they use a cosmilite alloy for the armor
split mortar
Yeah it’s a alloy of cosmolite but we don’t know what else
Uelibloom didn’t exist before we killed providence since it’s her actual god essence
light linden
still wonder
river python
They can’t use auric cause auric doesn’t care if you’re a robot it will explode ...
using that logic, auric would make everything explode, even the anvil.
light linden
could profaned ore be used to heat a room?
light linden
using that logic, auric would make everything explode, even the anvil.
not really
split mortar
using that logic, auric would make everything explode, even the anvil.
Evidently not, we don’t know why it explodes things or why it doesn’t
light linden
auric is only stable because we use fragments of auric souls to stop it
draedon can't do that
spring helm
Terrarian with cosmilite armour: stronger than Yharon
Exo mechs have cosmilite alloy armour: stronger than Yharon
Dog with cosmilite armour: weaker than Yharon
This worm is a fraud
split mortar
All we know is for sentient thing the best way to avoid it exploding you is to be attuned to a auric being or be a auric being
river python
Evidently not, we don’t know why it explodes things or why it doesn’t
Robots should not explode then, there is no way of knowing if it is a living being or not, unless the mineral has its own will and intelligence.
light linden
Robots should not explode then, there is no way of knowing if it is a living bei...
it might
also it has a constant electric charge
deft vessel
draedon can't do that
He probably could, but just doesn’t have acess to soul fragments
light linden
it could easily cook the robots
split mortar
Robots should not explode then, there is no way of knowing if it is a living bei...
Maybe, but who knows it might just be able to
It can explode golf balls aswell btw
green bay
Have you tried gently asking auric ore not to be like that
untold oracle
True
river python
Maybe, but who knows it might just be able to
It can explode golf balls aswell ...
how did you know that can explode golf balls
untold oracle
Draedon forgot to say please
spring helm
That’s how you attune
river python
spring helm
how did you know that can explode golf balls
It happens in game
river python
It happens in game
incredible
deft vessel
how did you know that can explode golf balls
That happenes ingame
river python
That happenes ingame
who discovered that
river python
fierce pagoda
Rank these characters on order of whos most and least innocent/responsible for deaths during the crusades: Calamitas, Dreadon, Yharim, Yharon, Permafrost.
deft vessel
Perma most innocent
river python
Calamitas is responsible of the deads of the ""seamans"", Draedon of the kill of the beings of the jungle creating the Plague Bringer.
and Yharim... well..
untold oracle
Rank these characters on order of whos most and least innocent/responsible for d...
Uhhhh
Calamitas, Permafrost, Draedon, Yharon, Yharim
deft vessel
Yharim
Yharon,
Dreadon,
Calamitas
Permafrost
I agree with this
devout grotto
untold oracle
You could technically switch up Yharim and Yharon since Yharon did feed Yhim excessibe amounts of Yhapaganda
fierce pagoda
yeah thats waht i was thinking
but i think Yharim had a more hands on approach than Yharon
untold oracle
Exactly
devout grotto
You could technically switch up Yharim and Yharon since Yharon did feed Yhim exc...
YHAPAGANDA
Yhapping
Yha(p)rim
Yha(p)ron
deft vessel
I would put Perma below Scal because we hanvent heard of him doing anything. Scal might have been manipulated but she still killed all those people
fierce pagoda
Scal has a lot of blood on her hands, so thats why i don't think she's innocent
Permafrost was also part of it, but like i dont think he did anything like THAT
river python
the exo-wulfrums would be the stronger thing ever created
untold oracle
Perma was moreso the strategy guy
But he was also very much conscious on his actions
fierce pagoda
yeah, Perhaps without knowing it, Permafrost laid the ground work for Yharim to go as far as he did in the crusades
untold oracle
Yes he did that
fierce pagoda
He left as soon as iYharim when crazy though
untold oracle
Yharim said smth like his crusade was possible early on thanks to him
jaunty wraith
Hey question: What was xerocs old name before he ascended?
fierce pagoda
but he should have tried to take Scal with him
untold oracle
Hey question: What was xerocs old name before he ascended?
We have no idea lmfao
fierce pagoda
and not leave her with Yharim
deft vessel
Yharim said smth like his crusade was possible early on thanks to him
I was more justified at the begining
fierce pagoda
that may have been his biggest fumble
deft vessel
But devolved quickly
untold oracle
The question is that are the actions or the motives the worse
jaunty wraith
what was the dragon kings name?
deft vessel
what was the dragon kings name?
Zeratros
river python
who is the most troll character in the lore?
untold oracle
who is the most troll character in the lore?
Yharon
untold oracle
Gaslighted Yharim because he heard this from someone who heard this from someone…
fierce pagoda
Xeroc should have just cleared things up with Yharon first
all of this is your fault Xeroc good job
actually no its Xeroc's parents fault for making him
actually no its their parents faults for making them
no the real person at fault is the universe for even starting to exist in the first place
river python
Xeroc should have just cleared things up with Yharon first
Is there something I'm not aware of?
according to me Xeroc is the bad guy
fierce pagoda
Victim of Yharim propaganda
fierce pagoda
Yharim tells you Xerocis a bad guy in the lore item
river python
Yharim tells you Xerocis a bad guy in the lore item
yep
fierce pagoda
but thats just what Yharim knows, and Yharim is VERY biased.
really, we have no idea what happened between Xeroc and Zeratros when Xeroc consumed his auric soul
deft vessel
But as Yhe previously stated: ”no one knows what happened that night”
river python
so all the whispers that i read, is the low knowledge that Yharim's have?
fierce pagoda
yep
devout grotto
He left as soon as iYharim when crazy though
iYharim sounds like some sort of Apple device
mighty zenith
all of it is from a very biased perspective
fierce pagoda
iYharim sounds like some sort of Apple device
I didnt even notice that typo lmao
river python
But is the hunting of dragons by the gods real?
fierce pagoda
yeah that is real
mighty zenith
of course yharim, the biggest dragon sympathizer to exist, would hate xeroc
mighty zenith
But is the hunting of dragons by the gods real?
yeah that was real
fierce pagoda
NO
river python
devout grotto
Nope
mighty zenith
it wasn't the big planned mass genocide that yharim paints it as
dusk laurel
so the gods are bad, solved case
Not all
deft vessel
so the gods are bad, solved case
Have you heared of bad dragons
mighty zenith
it didnt happen all immediately
fierce pagoda
its like with humans, some humans are bad, some humans are good, and many humans are morally gray.
mighty zenith
people just heard rumors of xeroc ascending and decided to try doing it themselves at very different times, for very different reasons and under very different circumstances
fierce pagoda
the same goes for both Dragons and Gods
mighty zenith
like, imagine this
river python
Have you heared of bad dragons
The dragons maintained the hegemony and balance of the world until ML arrived, isn't it?
mighty zenith
you go to fight a piece of shit dragon who has been terrorizing people
deft vessel
The dragons maintained the hegemony and balance of the world until ML arrived, i...
Eh
mighty zenith
you slay it and find out that you can absorb its soul to prevent it from terrorizing anyone ever again
while also gaining its domain
wouldn't you do that
deft vessel
Balance is a subjective term
river python
wouldn't you do that
well, hell yeah i would do it
mighty zenith
well there you go
that is exactly what happened with providence
we know how she turned out but
devout grotto
Wait really?
fierce pagoda
but Providence went then bad way
devout grotto
Damn
mighty zenith
the circumstances of her ascension were very different
fierce pagoda
fuck you Providence
river python
huhh
mighty zenith
the dragon of flame was a piece of shit
fierce pagoda
i falled into Yharim Propaganda
Dont worry i did the same thing at first
deft vessel
yharon is obvious
I’d say Yharon is just more lets say bitter
pliant ruin
given the dragon of gluttony is named after a capital sin i doubt my guy is very benevolent
river python
i thought the Dragons were the good guys
mighty zenith
I’d say Yharon is just more lets say bitter
bitter enough to encourage mass genocide on a worldwide scale?
mighty zenith
like
thats not an excuse
fierce pagoda
I used to think Yharim lore items were written from a omniscient narrator, so i was like huh
deft vessel
bitter enough to encourage mass genocide on a worldwide scale?
Yes
mighty zenith
there is no excuse to mass genocide
yharon is fucked up
he may be fluffy but he's fucked up
deft vessel
there is no excuse to mass genocide
Not that he isnt evil. Thats just the cause
pliant ruin
I think yharon is evil but also he's a tragic sort of evil
like i wouldn't doubt he used to be good in the past
but after everything he went through he broke
mighty zenith
yeah i can see that
fierce pagoda
Yharon has got to be like a bit racist, from the way he had no regard for human lives
deft vessel
Exactly
river python
So, there are no villains, only antagonists.
mighty zenith
still
yharon's current state is proof that dragons aren't the pure and malevolent beings yharim loves painting them as
pliant ruin
there's a villain it's called yharim
fierce pagoda
technically, all the bosses you fight are antagonists
pliant ruin
also providence
mighty zenith
a pure and malevolent being wouldnt go to this length
pliant ruin
also the devourer of gods
there's alot of villains
like there's alot of people who are just like, really bad in the lore
does the devourer count as people
deft vessel
a pure and malevolent being wouldnt go to this length
Benevolent*
river python
also the devourer of gods
what makes you think him is not being controlled by Noxus?
mighty zenith
he seems pretty sapient
pliant ruin
i doubt hes being controlled
mighty zenith
Benevolent*
yeah mb
pliant ruin
more so i think he works for him in some way
loyalty
specially because we have reason to believe he's not part of the distortion hivemind
river python
everything I knew has collapsed
pliant ruin
which would imply that the devourer is loyal to noxus on his own
river python
the dragons are not good buddys
mighty zenith
well
its not black and white like that
pliant ruin
mycat is going insane trying to eat her tail
deft vessel
I’d say Noxus is evil and working for it asociates you to evil
pliant ruin
vetrasyl was pretty chill wasnt he
mighty zenith
the issue is yharim putting them both on only one side
so gods evil and dragons good
fierce pagoda
Dragons, gods and humans all have one thing in common, and that is that some of them are bad, some of them are good, and many of them are morally gray, but we are all equally complex.
pliant ruin
yeah this honestly
fierce pagoda
that is something you should always keep in mind
deft vessel
Yharim can only see in black and white
mighty zenith
dismissing anything good the gods have done (such as expanding civilizations and improving the world)
mighty zenith
and dismissing anything bad the dragons have done
indigo glade
the issue is yharim putting them both on only one side
Politician.
mighty zenith
so true
jaunty wraith
I think auric is just a case of "so powerful it needs electric effects to show how powerful it is"
Like super Saiyan
jaunty wraith
Pretty much
strange stump
and dismissing anything bad the dragons have done
i mean, they HAVE done nothing wrong 
jaunty wraith
I mean... The only person who we hear the dragon story from is Yharim
devout grotto
you slay it and find out that you can absorb its soul to prevent it from terrori...
Oh hey that's the new lore for my god OC 
warm gull
I'm the pie baker
pliant ruin
can i ahve a pie im hungry
devout grotto
🥧
deft vessel
Is this pie pious?
dusk laurel
Depends
light linden
y'all think yharim would let a god go out the way they wanted to?
or would he just ignore their request and attack?
dusk laurel
Probably not
light linden
also random thing
split mortar
or would he just ignore their request and attack?
Uh probably just attack
light linden
have y'all read draedon's theories on how goozma had an auric soul?
deft vessel
Huh HotOG adds quite alot
light linden
Huh HotOG adds quite alot
still not sure how I feel about goozma's fight tbh
it feels very random
deft vessel
Agreed
random mulch
i like the fight personally
deft vessel
I mean it’s cool but quite random
devout grotto
I mean it's not canon anyway
random mulch
i like that it's effectively a bunch of minigames for the first part, keeps it fresh compared to other boss fights
pliant ruin
goozr
split mortar
I love Goozmas design and visuals they’re so great
devout grotto
dusk laurel
I love Calamity Addon Talk
light linden
tbf
light linden
I did ask whether lore about add-ons goes here or in add-on talk
dusk laurel
Jellyfish slime
light linden
and I was told here
devout grotto
Ah
dusk laurel
and I was told here
light linden
I forgot what
oh right
do we know if there was life before the world soul shattered?
pliant ruin
well id assume yes but no we dont
dusk laurel
^
light linden
hmm
spring helm
I’m feeling silly right now
pliant ruin
would be really random for all life to just appear when the world soul shattered
spring helm
Melon, where is the twink death picture
dusk laurel
@ .melongun
pliant ruin
melon isn't with us.. 😔
dusk laurel
Melon tragically passed away
pliant ruin
rest in peace
spring helm
pliant ruin
2023-2024
dusk laurel
Let's set up a funeral procession
spring helm
Slime god (potential) lore
deft vessel
Real
split mortar
do we know if there was life before the world soul shattered?
Pretty sure it has to be before it shatters, dragons had to exist and hand it out and I doubt fetus will be able to do that
pliant ruin
still headcanoning that slime god was a goblin ngl
light linden
that reminds me
spring helm
Anyway Stip mentioned once that the strength of a mortal soul depended on the individual’s willpower or something.
Weak soul Slime God
pliant ruin
the entire idea of a crafty little cowardly guy just fits a goblin so well imo
light linden
do we know which continent goblins came from?
split mortar
How is it twink death if it femboy
split mortar
do we know which continent goblins came from?
No
spring helm
I still don’t really know the difference
deft vessel
How is it twink death if it femboy
Both
dusk laurel
Yah
pliant ruin
-aristotles or something
light linden
someone already has
light linden
someone already has
going on twitter was a bad idea that day
dusk laurel
deft vessel
Because ball
deft vessel
Also a bug
dusk laurel
Stupid bug
cloud ibex
-aristotles or something
aristwokeles
pliant ruin
why dosen't slime god just summon every slime to fight for it, it's the slime god
is it stupid
spring helm
Too weak willed
pliant ruin
hey its ok
deft vessel
pliant ruin
im also stupid
spring helm
That’s why they turned into slime in the first place instead of remaining a twink
Just look at Silva, Tyrian, and Otonilou. They remained basically the same
pliant ruin
yes
deft vessel
That’s why they turned into slime in the first place instead of remaining a twin...
Probably depends on how wrong you did the ritual
pliant ruin
if its not a direct reference to other media or donor content its canon
i dropped a theory a while back that goblins might have ties with signus
/have made a deal with him
dusk laurel
Give them all Signus cloaks post-ML
light linden
what do they mind?
pliant ruin
oh no
pliant ruin
based on what we know yeah
pliant ruin
draetalk iirc
dusk laurel
yaoi
split mortar
draetalk iirc
Draedon is the one who theorised it where else could it be lol
dusk laurel
Draedon Distortion lab log
light linden
ngl I'm surprised draedon hasn't made an abyss lab
noble niche
are goblins even canon in calamity?
light linden
?
noble niche
I didn't mean to post that
dusk laurel
split mortar
I mean
Not much can eitchstand that depth and jared may not like the sudden increase of light in his home
noble niche
I didn't mean to post that
But I hope it answers the question
light linden
I didn't mean to post that
what did you mean to post?
split mortar
what did you mean to post?
dusk laurel
overused_joke.png
light linden
draedon isn't the terrarian though?
split mortar
draedon isn't the terrarian though?
Can make it happen if you want
noble niche
what did you mean to post?
No you know what I'm gonna embrace it. I meant to post stock photo of white middle class millennial and I'm in fact proud of it
Hell, i might even do it again!
light linden
I mean
Not much can eitchstand that depth and jared may not like the sudden in...
bold of you to assume the exo mechs wouldn't vaporize him
split mortar
bold of you to assume the exo mechs wouldn't vaporize him
They wouldn’t, jared would win
Jared is stronger then exos or scal
light linden
in a 3v1?
split mortar
Weaker then yharim but above them
noble niche
Who would win? The strongest magic user to ever exist and the right hand of yharim himself? Or silly silly sea snek?
split mortar
But yeah jared would win
light linden
actually wait
split mortar
Hell they may have an advantage since electric attacks might fry circuits
light linden
isn't there another one?
split mortar
Foveanator is normal twins and isn’t canon since expert rev is the canon difficulty
light linden
xb something?
light linden
Foveanator is normal twins and isn’t canon since expert rev is the canon difficu...
tf is foveanator?
split mortar
Hekate is gfb only and not canon
split mortar
tf is foveanator?
Master twins triplet
split mortar
And the Hypnos brain is fanon
light linden
hypnos?
split mortar
Why did autocorrect turn fanon to canon
split mortar
Came from a fanon wiki raid but had a lot of effort put into the sprite and details of its attacks
split mortar
infernum ares with the energy blades
That’s not a new exo mech…
split mortar
Oh ok
heady vapor
Technically, is the Corruption Lore accurate, but not the Crimson?
I posted this on the wrong thing
Originally
split mortar
Technically, is the Corruption Lore accurate, but not the Crimson?
Why would the crimson be lore innacurate?
heady vapor
Because Dreadon got the design of The Destroyer and Thanatos from the Eater Of Worlds
mighty zenith
he did not canonically
heady vapor
Oh
split mortar
Both pre hardmode corruption and crimson exist I think we just see one
heady vapor
I thought that was the basis for the worms
split mortar
^
mighty zenith
it's just worm shaped cause worms dig well
heady vapor
Both pre hardmode corruption and crimson exist I think we just see one
Like in the Drunk seed?
split mortar
We only explore a small part of a entire continent
mighty zenith
same with skelly prime
it being so similar to skeletron is just an unfortunate vanilla thing
heady vapor
So Yharim likes bees, and Dreadon likes worms
heady vapor
it being so similar to skeletron is just an unfortunate vanilla thing
Ah
Does Permafrost like penguins?
mighty zenith
well
technically its an unfortunate (in draedon's eyes) coincidence
split mortar
Hell the mech bosses might be older then the pre hardmode versions lol
heady vapor
Or whatever the ice wizards name is
mighty zenith
since we do canonically call it skeletron prime
mighty zenith
Does Permafrost like penguins?
maybe
split mortar
Or whatever the ice wizards name is
Yeah it’s permafrost, idk if they like penguins though
mighty zenith
permafrost strikes me as a bird guy
tbh
he'd have like
a parrot
maybe a swallow
heady vapor
So, it’s just a very coincidental coincidence that the mechs are just like Skelly, WOW, and that damn eye?
And Dreadon made them before he knew they were actual entities
mighty zenith
he mightve known of eye of cthulhu and the eater, since we dont know when they were created
but i don't think him knowing about skeletron was possible
heady vapor
(I like calling Eater of Worlds “Worm of Worlds”)
strange stump
permafrost strikes me as a bird guy
perma strikes me as a cat lover
he seems like the type to have one of those really fluffy cats
mighty zenith
fair take
split mortar
Yeah mech bosses are just big lot of coincidence when it comes to resembling other guys
heady vapor
he mightve known of eye of cthulhu and the eater, since we dont know when they w...
The eye is everywhere
mighty zenith
would give him a connection to calamitas (because she would be a cat person and there's no question bout this)
heady vapor
would give him a connection to calamitas (because she would be a cat person and ...
Oh she likes cats
split mortar
perma strikes me as a cat lover
he seems like the type to have one of those *rea...
Calamitas is cat so that’s fair
mighty zenith
everything about her screams cat person
heady vapor
Why did I spell cats like that…
mighty zenith
she'd be like
heady vapor
Calamitas is cat so that’s fair
Please tell me this isn’t canon
mighty zenith
"noo i hate cats i dont want one"
and then take care of a random stray that came over to her
split mortar
Please tell me this isn’t canon
It isn’t don’t worry
heady vapor
everything about her screams cat person
Like Power from chainsaw man
Or like Kaguya from Love is War
split mortar
She is a human not cat
heady vapor
She is a human not cat
Unfortunately
split mortar
If she were cat then there would be less times for her to girlfail
heady vapor
I would like a cat in a mysterious red robe
Or Cloak
Can it be renamed from SCal to SCat?
split mortar
Supreme calamicat
split mortar
Supreme CATastrophe
scenic olive
Cat aclysm
dusk laurel
Cat Seekers
split mortar
Technically, is the Corruption Lore accurate, but not the Crimson?
Crimson is made of greedy and violent gods while corruption I forgor
proven rivet
Corruption is made out of gods that loved eating dinner with their families 💖
split mortar
That would be the hallowed :(
stark basalt
split mortar
light linden
Rebecca making a dev lore chat<:clueless:1064298508653432933>
idk but I remember seeing talk about brimstone crag cats
split mortar
Dev lore chat accidentally made public for a sec
light linden
what is this thing from?
light linden
RoY?
light linden
tf is reign of yharim
split mortar
Fan game of calamity that is in the genre of metroidvania iirc
Quite early development currently
light linden
ah ok
light linden
just realized
are there any swamps in calamity?
I think it's the only kind of irl environment not mentioned
dusk laurel
are there any swamps in calamity?
Nop, none ingame
Likely some elsewhere in the world
split mortar
I mean
The jungle has a ludicrous amount of wet and mud and trees
So that’s prob the closest we will get in game
split mortar
irl crimson would prolly be a swamp
Whar
Idk what constitutes as a swamp so may you explain how
light linden
lot of liquid that likely doesn't move
fading helm
Im sure that there are some waters in the jungle that constitute for that
split mortar
Yeah
light linden
Whar
Idk what constitutes as a swamp so may you explain how
an area of low-lying, uncultivated ground where water collects
fading helm
What would Yharim think of modern day society 
cloud ibex
he probably wouldn't like a bunch of people in high governmental positions
light linden
I feel like he'd be neutral to democracies
split mortar
“They’re not being racist in the right way!”
cloud ibex
but i think he'd be chill with irl religions
dusk laurel
Yeah
fading helm
What would he feel of the lack of dragons here
cloud ibex
at least assuming he'd understand that irl gods haven't killed dragons
split mortar
Depends on what religions have
dusk laurel
What would he feel of the lack of dragons here
There were no dragons irl to begin with
So not much
light linden
he'd prolly hate overreligious governments
cloud ibex
What would he feel of the lack of dragons here
a bit disappointed maybe
light linden
wonder what he'd think of big cities tbh
dusk laurel
I think he'd be indifferent
light linden
idk
fading helm
Population would be unexpected probs
dusk laurel
There were "large" cities in his empire after all
fading helm
how many people live in the world of terraria
dusk laurel
[Azafure]
light linden
I feel like new york city might surprise him
split mortar
how many people live in the world of terraria
Prob over a billion
fading helm
ah so not by much
light linden
There were "large" cities in his empire after all
we don't know how advanced it was though
he'd prolly be surprised we have no magic though
split mortar
Only numbers we got was
21-300 million died to crusade
Crusade killed like 20% of all people
hybrid barn
Y'know, I wonder how Yharim would handle a social situation there
Like, is he familiar with just...existing around people?
fading helm
I think yharim empire had like industrial revolution civilization but future tech weapons
light linden
Only numbers we got was
21-300 million died to crusade
Crusade killed like 20%...
that means 1.5 billion at most
fading helm
cus draedon
light linden
basically
fading helm
Y'know, I wonder how Yharim would handle a social situation there
Like, is he fa...
I think he is familiar with it
dusk laurel
Azafure was already entering the industrial revolution before Draedon joined
hybrid barn
that means 1.5 billion at most
Terraria might have less people than the real world
fading helm
well not normal dude lv
light linden
weapon technology was dramatically more advanced than everything else
split mortar
What about nukes?
light linden
here's my question
fading helm
What about nukes?
I think that is the only thing we have above them
dusk laurel
He'd have to not wear his armor if he doesn't want to annihilate any civilians
light linden
you think he'd try to figure out if earth had a world soul?
fading helm
He'd have to not wear his armor if he doesn't want to annihilate any civilians
Im sure he can tune it out somehow
split mortar
Like in an instant the power of supreme Calamitas is just released from one object
light linden
and if so try to use it to recreate the dragons?
fading helm
you think he'd try to figure out if earth had a world soul?
I dont think he even knows of the world soul no?
did yharon know
dusk laurel
you think he'd try to figure out if earth had a world soul?
I mean, he might know it exists because of Yharon
dusk laurel
did yharon know
Yes.
split mortar
did yharon know
Yharon is the third auric dragon, yes
split mortar
First life
Death second
Rebirth third
cloud ibex
Y'know, I wonder how Yharim would handle a social situation there
Like, is he fa...
casually? doubt
fading helm
First life
Death second
Rebirth third
where was this stated i completely missed it
light linden
and I think light was the 5th
split mortar
where was this stated i completely missed it
Dev statement
dusk laurel
where was this stated i completely missed it
Dev statements
fading helm
ah alr
light linden
Y'know, I wonder how Yharim would handle a social situation there
Like, is he fa...
depends
cloud ibex
in my mind the majority of his life he's been so solely focused on the crusade he has forgotten how to be a normal person
split mortar
I think 4th personally for zeratros
light linden
do we know how old yharim was when the egg was discovered?
fading helm
do we know how old yharim was when the egg was discovered?
I think like 20
dont know if this was old lore statement tho
split mortar
in my mind the majority of his life he's been so solely focused on the crusade h...
The real reason the lore items be wack at times (signus rant about braelor and statis)
fading helm
yharim lore still has the whole rebelling against gods and getting thrown into lava no?
hybrid barn
First life
Death second
Rebirth third
Huh, I wonder what happened to the Life dragon
Probably vacuumed, yeah, but I feel like their story would be pretty significant
fading helm
thats how he got yharon
cloud ibex
well it wasn't specifically gods before but yes
split mortar
Yharim is like 130ish
Crusade has been going on for like 100 years
cloud ibex
Huh, I wonder what happened to the Life dragon
Probably vacuumed, yeah, but I fe...
silva got them
fading helm
Huh, I wonder what happened to the Life dragon
Probably vacuumed, yeah, but I fe...
Silva killed it probs
split mortar
Huh, I wonder what happened to the Life dragon
Probably vacuumed, yeah, but I fe...
Silva is the goddess of life
hybrid barn
OHHH-
Okay, that makes sense
cloud ibex
or they willingly gave their soul to silva
split mortar
Silva is the only other god we know of to have perfect ascended
dusk laurel
The life elemental got the life dragon's soul
fading helm
Silva is the only other god we know of to have perfect ascended
xeroc no?
cloud ibex
i like to imagine that the two things needed for perfect ascensions are the dragon's consent and the Terminus
cloud ibex
maybe zeratros and the DoL realized that the age of dragons couldn't last forever and it was time to move on
split mortar
What I said doesn’t contradict xeroc perfectly ascending which they did
fading helm
i like to imagine that the two things needed for perfect ascensions are the drag...
DId xeroc get consent?
cloud ibex
in the dragon of Life's case maybe they saw it as a form of evolution
split mortar
DId xeroc get consent?
We dunno
cloud ibex
DId xeroc get consent?
we don't know
fading helm
or was it not stated
hybrid barn
Silva is the only other god we know of to have perfect ascended
And even then, I don't think it was perfect per se, she couldn't use auric
dusk laurel
DId xeroc get consent?
We don know
fading helm
og alr
cloud ibex
the only source that he didn't is Yharim
fading helm
And even then, I don't think it was perfect per se, she couldn't use auric
I dont think gods can use auric at all tho
simply because no auric soul
cloud ibex
(as we know, generally not a good source on anything related to gods or dragons)
split mortar
And even then, I don't think it was perfect per se, she couldn't use auric
We don’t know if oerfect ascension grants the ability to touch auric
fading helm
(as we know, generally not a good source on anything related to gods or dragons)
Wdym yharim would never lie
hybrid barn
I dont think gods can use auric at all tho
Ohh okay, fair
fading helm
We don’t know if oerfect ascension grants the ability to touch auric
It doesnt simply because the og soul is still there
so they still merge
so it aint pure auric
How you guys know silva cant touch auric tho
did i miss another dev statement
cloud ibex
we don't i think
split mortar
How you guys know silva cant touch auric tho
She is a goddess
dusk laurel
did i miss another dev statement
I haven't heard anything of it
fading helm
She is a goddess
Then its still in doubt wheter gods can use auric
not like they have much use for it
tho
dusk laurel
Perfect ascension gods are still a mystery somewhat
dusk laurel
Dev statement iirc
fading helm
Perfect ascension gods are still a mystery somewhat
Isnt a perfect ascension just inhereting the same domain of the dragon?
dusk laurel
That's all we know
split mortar
how?
Because ascending normally destroys the auric properties of the soul resulting in a soul different to auric and normal ones but we don’t know if it’s the same case for perfect ascension
Prob dev statement
fading helm
Maybe its just a gacha game with a 1/100 chance
dusk laurel
💥
split mortar
Xeroc made the ascension ritual so I doubt it
fading helm
Because ascending normally destroys the auric properties of the soul resulting i...
i would assume perfect ascension are the same because the OG soul is still there
and they still merge
afaik i dont think normal gods destroy part of auric soul
they just absorb it
split mortar
If it’s the same then yeah perfect ascensions explode to auric aswell
dusk laurel
Xeroc was also attuned to Zeratros before ascending
split mortar
Xeroc concept art
dusk laurel
Pre-ascension
split mortar
Ye
fading helm
Xeroc concept art
He looks cool asf icl
dusk laurel
Auric mask
fading helm
dragon era had some top tier fits
split mortar
So does permafrost tbf
cloud ibex
unrelated to the conversation at hand but i wanted to check if it actually gets darker during a new moon, found someone asking on quora and one of the first replies is someone going off saying shit like "you have OBVIOUSLY not had to walk alone at night in the mountains, it is SUICIDAL to even try"
like yeah mf that's why they asked
split mortar
So does permafrost tbf
cloud ibex
just answer the question you nerd
fading helm
Nah the glasses are not it 
hybrid barn
Y'know, I had a small series of thoughts that led to this, so it might seem a bit random, but I wonder what Xeroc thinks or would think of of Providence, and her whole thing of scorching the world to ash
dusk laurel
Probably negative
fading helm
Y'know, I had a small series of thoughts that led to this, so it might seem a bi...
as far as we know xeroc is some unknown
split mortar
unrelated to the conversation at hand but i wanted to check if it actually gets ...
It makes sense it’s darker
Moon reflecting no light
Prob not noticeable under urban areas cause if lights
dusk laurel
Probably negative
Seeing as though Xeroc is likely protecting the world
fading helm
he probably wouldnt like it tho because if he wanted he could do so himself
dusk laurel
Seeing as though Xeroc is likely protecting the world
If he was actually evil, he wouldn't be as respectful and commending of our abilities during the BR dialogue
fading helm
Seeing as though Xeroc is likely protecting the world
I always held the belief he is not doing shit
bro just missed like 100 world wars
split mortar
We don’t know but with what he says in the tooltips of rock and terminus it seems like the guy has devoted his existence to protect the world from shit like fovos and noxus
hybrid barn
Seeing as though Xeroc is likely protecting the world
That's kind of the thing, I guess we don't really know if he is
Like, he probably doesn't intend to destroy the world himself, but we don't really know if he cares about it at all
fading helm
If he was actually evil, he wouldn't be as respectful and commending of our abil...
I mean he can respect someone and still be evil
gritty kraken
Nah the glasses are not it <:SAD:664300899555999754>
Went from a wizard to a cyborg scientist real quick
cloud ibex
and another reply is rambling about how they want the nights to be darker but people disagree because they think it'll make more robberies happen even though most robberies apparently happen during the day??? brother they just asked if it's darker during a new moon than other moon phases we don't care
split mortar
I always held the belief he is not doing shit <:SAD:664300899555999754>
bro jus...
There was a mango leak (dubious source but still chance of being true) that xeroc has been hunting Noxus in the distortion iirc
fading helm
There was a mango leak (dubious source but still chance of being true) that xero...
tf is a mango leak
dusk laurel
Moon Lord and other outside threats are a bigger issue than Yharim, I'm sorry
split mortar
tf is a mango leak
Mango is a concept artist
They leaked a bit of lore
fading helm
Moon Lord and other outside threats are a bigger issue than Yharim, I'm sorry
Moon lord is being held by cultist tho
dusk laurel
Moon lord is being held by cultist tho
Was an issue
split mortar
Moon lord is being held by cultist tho
Noxus isn’t
fading helm
and outside threats are what
split mortar
and outside threats are what
Noxus
fading helm
ok besides noxus
dusk laurel
Moon Lord beat the crap out of the dragons
split mortar
Noxus alone can probably end the world
fading helm
tho i have to say i didnt know that noxus was actually doing stuff
dusk laurel
Before it got weakened
fading helm
i tought he was just sleeping rn
fading helm
Before it got weakened
yeah but xeroc went god after that
split mortar
tho i have to say i didnt know that noxus was actually doing stuff
Noxus is the boss of dog and created cv
gritty kraken
Moon lord is being held by cultist tho
The like 1% remains of him yeah
fading helm
Noxus is the boss of dog and created cv
yeah I mean that he was actively on the chase
split mortar
The like 1% remains of him yeah
More like 0.001
dusk laurel
yeah but xeroc went god after that
Still, beings like ML can exist, and are a major threat to the planet
hybrid barn
Also, I don't remember hearing about that, but I think I remember something similar, where the reason Xeroc didn't go to kill DoG was because if he did, then Noxus would probably be alerted and go further into hiding
fading helm
Still, beings like ML can exist, and are a major threat to the planet
imma be real I dont think there are any fovos beings just going around after earth
dusk laurel
Seeing as though Noxus has had some sort of presence since the Draconic Era [Ceaseless]
fading helm
noxus i think its the only one
dusk laurel
imma be real I dont think there are any fovos beings just going around after ear...
Terraria*
fading helm
wait the world is named terraria
dusk laurel
Earth isn't the name of the planet
split mortar
Yes
fading helm
back to the point it has been 1000 years and xeroc is still chasing after noxus he is a bum in my books 
split mortar
(I prefer ceis headcanon if heartlands)
cloud ibex
the Heartlands yeah
fading helm
The continent only has a title afaik
Do we know more info
split mortar
"The Heartlands"
That’s cei’s headcanon iirc
fading helm
on other continents
fading helm
Crystal city
What was that
split mortar
Maybe other gods there
fading helm
i dont think ive heard of it
dusk laurel
And uhhhhh
We'll get more in the future don't worry
fading helm
Maybe other gods there
Think it was said some probably escaped but yharim chased them down
split mortar
What was that
Uh don’t think it’s mentioned ingame iirc
dusk laurel
i dont think ive heard of it
Not implemented yet
split mortar
Sso should bring in a lot though
dusk laurel
it was brought up the same day as the DoD death aura
split mortar
(Moonlord bestiary my beloved)
fading helm
I missed a lot dang
fading helm
it was brought up the same day as the DoD death aura
Is it just some big city on another continent?
split mortar
Think so
split mortar
Keep in mind crystals are rare as fuck so a city is quite beeg
dusk laurel
Also another city of scholars iirc
split mortar
Don’t think we know if they have been or not
dusk laurel
What got burnt down
fading helm
well destroyed
dusk laurel
They aren't mentioned yet
fading helm
if they are still alive
dusk laurel
I would be really surprised
Depends if they followed or supported a god or not
split mortar
Cities can exist without the need of a god
dusk laurel
^
split mortar
Depends if they followed or supported a god or not
Or if they had a lot of suspicion on if they hid gods away
fading helm
Yeah but you never know if they got destroyed by some rando dragonfly or smth
gritty kraken
Space dragonfly
dusk laurel
Yeah but you never know if they got destroyed by some rando dragonfly or smth
There is also an equal chance of it not being destroyed
split mortar
Dragonfolly should not be the average adult holy shit
fading helm
Btw I heard that the astrum deus we fight is not a full grown one
dusk laurel
We do not have enough info yet to come up with anything meaningful
fading helm
is that info right
split mortar
Btw I heard that the astrum deus we fight is not a full grown one
A theory from draedon
dusk laurel
Btw I heard that the astrum deus we fight is not a full grown one
Draedon's theory
split mortar
Could be correct
fading helm
Ah knew i heard it somewhere
split mortar
Could be wrong
dusk laurel
Also includes the fact that it could be part of a whole species
split mortar
I think correct cause draedon cool
dusk laurel
Ah knew i heard it somewhere
Draetalk
fading helm
Also includes the fact that it could be part of a whole species
Would be mad cool tbh
split mortar
Yhap
Draetalk
Calamichant
split mortar
The enchant system
dusk laurel
If the theory is true, I wonder what the strength of a fully grown Deus to be
hybrid barn
Alright, third random question, because I was kind of interested:
Given that Yharim's kind of just in a depressive state at the moment, staying up in the Dragon Aerie and watching you tear apart both his allies and his enemies, do you guys think he'd get back into action if he learned about Xeroc?
split mortar
If the theory is true, I wonder what the strength of a fully grown Deus to be
Perhaps that’s what moonlord is
fading helm
If the theory is true, I wonder what the strength of a fully grown Deus to be
probs like average auric dragon
spring helm
He already knows
dusk laurel
He knows yeah
fading helm
Alright, third random question, because I was kind of interested:
Given that Yh...
doubt it
split mortar
Alright, third random question, because I was kind of interested:
Given that Yh...
He knows of xeroc
hybrid barn
Wait, he does? Honestly, I thought the whole idea is that no one knew about him
dusk laurel
Yharim already knows the futility of challenging Xeroc
fading helm
I think that he means if xeroc just appeared outside
split mortar
He says draedons machines are nothing to his power
dusk laurel
Exo mechs lore whisper
fading helm
Yharim already knows the futility of challenging Xeroc
Would he try tho
spring helm
Probably
spring helm
Watch Yharim get so angry that he unlocks Super Yharim mode
split mortar
Would he try tho
Either yeah and fail
Or try to clean the world of all other gods first then fail anyways
No matter what he loses
dusk laurel
Watch Yharim get so angry that he unlocks Super Yharim mode
Super Yhario Brothers
fading helm
My glorious king emperor yhagoat would low diff fraud xeroc
split mortar
Watch Yharim get so angry that he unlocks Super Yharim mode
I imagine a 50X boost isn’t enough
fading helm
Watch Yharim get so angry that he unlocks Super Yharim mode
super yharim 3
fading helm
I imagine a 50X boost isn’t enough
Think it is
split mortar
Yharim when xeroc just stops light from going in his eyes
spring helm
I imagine a 50X boost isn’t enough
No way Xeroc is more than 50x stronger than Yharim
fading helm
Yharim when xeroc just stops light from going in his eyes
ok but 50 yharims is like
a lot of yharims
split mortar
Skill is a factor aswell
hybrid barn
super yharim 3
Honestly, he's got the hair for it already
fading helm
like more i can count with my hands
dusk laurel
1 billion lions is a lot of lions
spring helm
Xeroc may be The Strongest but the gap ain’t that big
dusk laurel
Yeah
fading helm
Xeroc may be The Strongest but the gap ain’t that big
oh no
the gap is big
idk if 50x big
but its very big
like 5 yharims stand no chance
split mortar
(Xeroc is also at the ceiling of how strong you can get iirc)
fading helm
now 6 yharims
spring helm
And we know this because the Terrarian won’t get much stronger post-Yharim
fading helm
might be a different story
dusk laurel
Xeroc can like beam Yharim from a distance
hot valve
Considering what I’ve seen reb describe, yharim and Xeroc gap is like BIG
fading helm
Xeroc can like beam Yharim from a distance
the emperor parries
split mortar
Yharim when Xeroc drags the actual fucking sun into the fight
spring helm
But can Clorox beat the Yhamehameha?
dusk laurel
the emperor parries
Parrying light isn't real
fading helm
Yharim when Xeroc drags the actual fucking sun into the fight
Nah he cant do that 😭
hot valve
Not enough that Xeroc one taps yharim but iirc it’s a relatively short fight
dusk laurel
Parrying light isn't real
Ignore reflections
fading helm
really small
split mortar
really small
Smaller then terraria iirc
dusk laurel
The sun is not small like other stars in Cal
fading helm
Parrying light isn't real
what if he puts sunglasses tho
hybrid barn
Apparently the sun is a ball of primordial light or something, so he might
dusk laurel
what if he puts sunglasses tho
Still dies
fading helm
The sun is not small like other stars in Cal
yeah but idk if its sun level tho
fading helm
Still dies
this is a 50x times yharim tho
i really think that he can go even with xeroc
dusk laurel
Yharim is still melee
split mortar
^
spring helm
“And here’s something new.
YHARIM BLUE!!!!!”
split mortar
Xeroc also has over 800 years of training I think
hot valve
Have gods really been around that long?
fading helm
Xeroc also has over 800 years of training I think
I mean can he really train a normal fight
split mortar
“And here’s something new.
YHARIM BLUE!!!!!”
(Drops shimmer on him as Goku and yharim unfuse)
spring helm
Yes
dusk laurel
got a range attack
But also, most weapons in general are not canon
spring helm
(Drops shimmer on him as Goku and yharim unfuse)
The shimmer cheese is real
split mortar
I mean can he really train a normal fight
He can make physical illusions, just make a illusion to fight
hot valve
I figured the crusade wouldn’t have been that long after the start of gods but I suppose that makes sense actually
fading helm
I still find it bs how we'll never get to kill xeroc
I get the sentiment
i really do
hybrid barn
Was that confirmed?
fading helm
but its fair
split mortar
Was that confirmed?
Yes
fading helm
Was that confirmed?
yeah
light linden
but its fair
eh