lore-discussion

[untold oracle]

Damn calamity has 3 yaoi couples already

[split mortar]

3?

[noble niche]

GAY AGENDER?!?!?!

[untold oracle]

Braelor and Statis, GoS and GoB, Yharim and Draedon/Yharon (it’s an ongoing drama)

[split mortar]

Ah lol

[noble niche]

Nah they fucking

Yharim wants the robotussy

[untold oracle]

And ofc there’s Providence’s yuri polycule

[split mortar]

(Silva and the elementals ?)

[untold oracle]

Hmm

[split mortar]

Heart of the elements + silva

[river python]

Noxus' role in Lore is?

[noble niche]

Fabsol and stylist

[split mortar]

Created ceaseless void
Boss of dog

That’s all we know for sure

[river python]

i know that

[noble niche]

He also makes a good coconut curry

And he's unafraid to put some spice in it

[river python]

But, he must have done something else, right? I saw there in a reddit thread, which said, that Moonlord, did not kill the dragons alone, had help from Noxus

[untold oracle]

(The spice being god essence)

[split mortar]

That guy on Reddit is tripping balls cause no that’s not what happened

[noble niche]

Really brings a savory pop to it

[river python]

so Moonlord just Soloed all the dragons?

[split mortar]

Yes

[river python]

impressive

[noble niche]

He typed "/e kill the dragons" into the roblox chat

[river python]

/kill @e [type = terraria_calamitymod:auric_dragons]

[noble niche]

Then xeroc hit em with the eats auric soul

Jow the fuck do you type * around something without it changing the text

this is bs

wait nevermind i got it

[split mortar]

Whar

[warm gull]

ptsd spawncamping them fr 😔

[split mortar]

/ this work?

[noble niche]

you just gotta type ten asterisks

[split mortar]

No

lol

[noble niche]

ten on each side, 20 total

[warm gull]

holy shit that is so incredibly obnoxious that you actuallg have to use 10

like couldn't they just make it like

3

[light linden]

three does this

[split mortar]

idk

Bruh

four?

[light linden]

🐌

[split mortar]

five?

wtf

[river python]

what about do a D&D table about Calamity Mod Lore

[noble niche]

********* if you do nine it gets italicized *********

[frozen zodiac]

remind me what happened to the dragons when one died

[noble niche]

I'd dm that in a heartbeat

[split mortar]

I have heard this like four other times from this chat

Generally? Enough is there though some stuff has to be headcanoned depending on what the players are iirc

Like what god did the lihzahrds worship before

[light linden]

I'd play that in a heartbeat

[light linden]

we need more info on what god they worshipped tbh

[frozen zodiac]

"The Light, forgotten"

[light linden]

it's kind of a plot hole

also

[split mortar]

Wait how?

[frozen zodiac]

does it say if they worshipped the sun before or is the sun deity a new obsession of them

[light linden]

y'all think lihzahrds are related to the dragons at all?

[river python]

I am sure that the shape of the Golem is inspired by what their god was.

[light linden]

there was a god who was central to their culture so much that they isolated themselves when it abandoned them

[noble niche]

Lihzahrds worshiped the sun god iirc

[light linden]

yet we don't know who the god was

[split mortar]

We don’t know the domain of the fod, just that it’s heavily related to the suns warmth

Which leads me to believe xeroc since they’re the god of sunlight but I find that odd

[light linden]

yeah xeroc doesn't seem like the correct one

[frozen zodiac]

but was that abandonment willing or by force? is it not stated anywhere if it may have been the godseeker's fault for their isolation?

[split mortar]

We’re abandoned by the time yharim got to them

[light linden]

both are sentient lizard species at least

[untold oracle]

D&D but it’s our calamity ocs

[river python]

yep

[light linden]

they were abandoned by their god long before yharim showed up so he kinda just left them alone out of pity

[frozen zodiac]

Doesn't the Witch Doctor say in some quotes he has ties to the earth itself?

[untold oracle]

They obviously worshiped ravager considering they’re the same boss

[frozen zodiac]

he compares his magic to the dryad last time i checked

[split mortar]

Time for my guy to get fucking nuked like 7 times specifically then

[untold oracle]

Who is your guy

[light linden]

also random thing

do we know if the shimmer has any lore?

wait have I already asked this?

[noble niche]

I think "herny bigmuscle" the true Melee user wouldn't rp well tho

[river python]

like the blood, of a god??

i dont know

[noble niche]

Xeroc spilled his coffee and it fell there

[river python]

if the shimmer have any lore

[split mortar]

gets ship of theseus according to popcorn

[untold oracle]

It certainly has we just don’t know anything really

[frozen zodiac]

nevermind it was about the nurse

[split mortar]

^
Bit about my terrarian

[untold oracle]

Yeah lmao that’s literally ship of theseus

[river python]

the D&D table It would have to be created by an administrator or a writer from the Calamity canon.

[untold oracle]

Uhh Léa does get injured a good bit too

[split mortar]

I take it not to that degree

[untold oracle]

EoC almost rips her arms off, EoW literally steals her other kidney, Yhairm commits black flash on her, that’s about what I’ve thought so far

[split mortar]

Oh, yeah that’s a bunch of damage aswell

[untold oracle]

I’ve been thinking that she gets the plague but it somehow stops (draedon already has his eyes on her and halts the plague) tho I’m not sure does it really work

[split mortar]

I’d say it depends on the impact the plague has on her

[untold oracle]

I mean in the sense does draedon want to spare her at that stage

[split mortar]

I’d imagine yeah? I think draedon has their eyes on us for a while

The schematics seem to directly address us

[deft vessel]

Man… I dont know if im good enough of a writer to write Yheren vs Yharon

[split mortar]

You can always revisit it later once you get more skill

[deft vessel]

Oh yea

[split mortar]

Like just do it, then use it as a draft later if you desire

[frozen zodiac]

i wonder what the psychology is for why so many people give trauma to their ocs

[split mortar]

I don’t know

[deft vessel]

It’s a way to make the character more likeable and can give way to interesting character interactions

[hybrid barn]

In m opinion, it just makes them more fun to write

[warm gull]

it's generally because bad things happening causes trauma

and bad things happening is pretty common in stories generally

[visual kiln]

wonder what domain xeroc would've gotten if they hadn't done a perfect ascension

[split mortar]

God of colour

[visual kiln]

tbh

god of chaos

bc rod of discord + xeroc's ascension was the beginning of a lot of it

[split mortar]

Oh yeah true

But also

Since xeroc has domain of shadows

Would god of order be possible aswell

[warm gull]

domain of chaos isn't really similar to the domain of primordial light at all

[split mortar]

Or god of chaos and order since shadow and light in one domain

[split mortar]

Rod of discord giving chaos state

[visual kiln]

gluttony -> slimes
death -> all sacrifice ever

[visual kiln]

this too tho ya

[deft vessel]

Well thats just your atoms not yet being fully reconstructed

[split mortar]

^

[visual kiln]

also xeroc was ascended in the aftermath of a war with an alien

[split mortar]

I think if Xeroc gets one domain they get the other half since they have light and dark

[heady vapor]

It would be funny if the Brimstone Elemental was a guy

[warm gull]

its a lot easier for me to see the association between slimes that eat everything death being sacrifices than it is for me to see light>chaos

[visual kiln]

its primordial light

[split mortar]

I think fabsol just likes women

[visual kiln]

which is different from normal light somehow

[warm gull]

also chaos state from rod of discord is kinda just a nothing-burger tbh

[visual kiln]

what if the elementals didn't have genders tbh

[split mortar]

MAGIC

[warm gull]

what if xeroc became the god of magic

or something like that

god of mana

[heady vapor]

Their gender is whatever element they are

[split mortar]

What would be the opposite domain then

[warm gull]

wym

opposite??

[visual kiln]

tbh dont like bc

[heady vapor]

Domains?

[deft vessel]

Domain of strenght

[heady vapor]

That’s just the Wizard NPC

[visual kiln]

mana and magic r kinda 2 diff things from the sun

[heady vapor]

Yharon is the god of fucking you over

[visual kiln]

they're star stuff

not sun stuff

the sun burns away fallen stars

[heady vapor]

But the sun is a star

[visual kiln]

not in calamity

[heady vapor]

What is the sun in calamity???

[visual kiln]

the sun

(wont be explained ever iirc

[heady vapor]

I’m gonna shoot you

[deft vessel]

After the shattering of the world soul, the dragons were given shards of it. The shards gave them some control over a specific thing or a concept.

[warm gull]

ball of nebulously named primordial light

[hybrid barn]

Oh yeaahhh, I was wondering what the sun's deal was, considering every other star is a chunk of mana or something

[visual kiln]

why didn't they just name primordial light sunlight

[heady vapor]

Oh I just call it essences

[warm gull]

sounds cooler

[heady vapor]

Like how Yharon is Rebirth?

[visual kiln]

at the cost of causing lots of confusion

[deft vessel]

Correct

[warm gull]

not really

[heady vapor]

Less swag

[visual kiln]

u hear the question "wtf is primordial light" a whole lot

[warm gull]

never seen someone get confused over it

[visual kiln]

when like

[warm gull]

beyond asking what it is

[visual kiln]

canonically its literally just sunlight i think

[heady vapor]

I gotta make a Google Doc of the calamity lore

[warm gull]

well all the primordial light comes from the sun

[deft vessel]

After ascencion the auric soul becomes god essence iirc

[split mortar]

There’s one already

[warm gull]

it can be like

a specific substance

[split mortar]

In the pins

[heady vapor]

MY WAY

[visual kiln]

ya so its sunlight

[warm gull]

the sun is just a ball of primordial light

[heady vapor]

I hate this games lore

[warm gull]

it's kinda like thengod thing imo

everything doesn't have to be named literally

[visual kiln]

this is true yeah

but also sometimes not naming things literally causes confusion

[heady vapor]

Can’t we just say “Yharim had a toddler tantrum and tried to kill all the gods?”

That’s WAY easier

[warm gull]

the substance of primordial light in cal could have come before the sun itself so the sun is made of primordial light rather than primordial light coming from the sun

Twyu is defintely a new lore user :/

[visual kiln]

and also like

[split mortar]

Yeah, but when there’s dedicated lore writers it won’t be the easy route but the good route

[heady vapor]

Nah I made the original lore

[split mortar]

Also old lore iirc

[heady vapor]

Trust

[visual kiln]

basically everything else has an extremely literal meaning

[heady vapor]

They are cringe

[visual kiln]

why intentionally make the meaning or name of something vague in a context where everything is very literal

[heady vapor]

What’s the meaning behind a torch

[visual kiln]

its a torch

[split mortar]

I disagree with your opinion

[heady vapor]

Like how does gel and wood make light

[visual kiln]

stick with a flame on it

gel is flammable

[deft vessel]

Pl could just be some original magic and the light it makes

[split mortar]

Both flammable

[warm gull]

gel is flammable

[heady vapor]

How do you flame the gel

With wood

[visual kiln]

friction

[hybrid barn]

Yeah

[warm gull]

we have a flammable substance that we use to put at the top of wood sticks irl called "oil"

gel is basically oil

[heady vapor]

But no oil?

[visual kiln]

for most of humanity's history fire was made by rubbing sticks together

[split mortar]

Gel is very flammable like oil

[warm gull]

gel is pretty oily I'd say

[heady vapor]

Your the ones that said there is a literal meaning to everything

[deft vessel]

I mean we have gel that if flammable in real life

[heady vapor]

Gel is what 12 year olds put in their hair

Not make torches

[warm gull]

don't really see the point in complaining about the name of primordial light tbh

[split mortar]

Gel is different to irl gel I think

[heady vapor]

Moving on

What is the guide

[visual kiln]

it just causes confusion for little reason

[heady vapor]

What is the guide made of

[warm gull]

the most confusion it causes is just "what is this" which is easily answered

[visual kiln]

the guide

[split mortar]

We dont have lore on vanilla npcs yet iirc

[split mortar]

Flesh

[deft vessel]

Flesh, blood, bones…

[hybrid barn]

Currently, I think he's just a dude who knows a lot about the world

[visual kiln]

the fact that it needs to be asked is the problem tho imo

[warm gull]

it isn't

[visual kiln]

bc like

[warm gull]

its so trivial

[visual kiln]

most cal players dont talk on the discord

fun fact

[heady vapor]

How does sacrificing the guide using a doll spawn a wall of flesh and make the game/world 10 times worse

[deft vessel]

Getting changed iirc

[visual kiln]

if its so trivial why not put it ingame at least

[warm gull]

there are lots of things that have to be explained in most fictional lore that has magical substances or systems

[split mortar]

That’s going to be explained next major update when a lot of vanilla bestiary entries get rewritten iirc

[heady vapor]

Explain the lore lore explainer

[warm gull]

most cal players also don't care about the lore at all

so like

the ones who care will ask

[heady vapor]

I care, I’m just too stupid

[warm gull]

the ones who don't it is a non-issue to

[split mortar]

Space squid loses fight with local zoo birds

[heady vapor]

And dies

[hybrid barn]

The game going into hardmode isn't of the guide's doing, that's just the Wall of Flesh's many rotting god bodies being released at once

[heady vapor]

W lore

[split mortar]

To not zoo birds

[warm gull]

they might

[deft vessel]

then a local peta member gets angry at bird eaters

[warm gull]

they haven't really finished the lore in game at all

[heady vapor]

Real question, I’m 99% sure the lore behind the Crimson and Corruption is that it’s the gods regrets or mistakes made life?

In Calamity

[visual kiln]

tbf im like 70% sure this is bc all the lore's in text and not actually shown as ingame story or environmental storytelling

[heady vapor]

Since Base Terraria is Vanilla, can Calamity be Chocolate

[deft vessel]

It’s the bodies of fallen deities that were meanies

[heady vapor]

Did the bad Yharim man have anything to do with that, or?

[visual kiln]

u have to read paragraphs to understand the lore, which usually u'd rather do something else thats more engaging than just reading

[heady vapor]

Wait isn’t the entire lore just dealing with Yharims mistakes

[deft vessel]

Perhaps

[heady vapor]

Dreadon, SCal, the seas, Astrum Anus

They all were because of Yharim or people he worked with

Even Cryogen

[deft vessel]

Just read the lore in-game

[visual kiln]

who wants to pause their game time to read a full paragraph

[deft vessel]

Me

[visual kiln]

im like 50% certain half the ppl here only read the lore through the doc or wiki tbh

[heady vapor]

Fun thing to do while crafting

[hybrid barn]

I think Astrum Deus is it's own thing, its dying star just happened to crash land on Terraria

[heady vapor]

I’m talking about the Crab one (idk how to spell)

[split mortar]

Me

[deft vessel]

Aureus

[heady vapor]

Wasn’t that one of Dreadons creations

[hybrid barn]

Ohhhh, yeah, it was a drone

[split mortar]

I have not touched the document and only use wiki to refresh memory

[heady vapor]

Astrum Anus is easier

Then Astrum Aureus

[visual kiln]

good for u :3

[heady vapor]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DgyreCi8fGco8QiFhKHH8rIo_wHplhthdq08ro_SK9o/edit?usp=sharing

Nice

I’m reading this while listening to the ost later

[pliant ruin]

i disagree partially

i think cal players just for the most part only play cal because they want to play Hard Boss Mod and won't care about the lore in any way
if anything making the lore show more directly would likely annoy them

its not smth you can remedy in cal itself imo

[visual kiln]

thats fair mayb

i dont see how it'd annoy anyone tho

[pliant ruin]

People want to play the hard boss mod and if u put Lore in the way of them and their Hard Bosses they'll just like download a "qol" that gets rid of it

ppl already do that with like

everything that isnt boss fights

mining? qol to get rid of mining fishing? qol to get rid of fishing

[proven rivet]

May aswell get a mod that deletes the menu to skip the menu

[mighty zenith]

people who don't care about lore for their Death Master For The Worthy 900% boss health Defiled No-hit overly edited youtube videos would

[bleak escarp]

At that point just use an all item world to gear and run boss rush

[visual kiln]

how would lore be getting in the way

[mighty zenith]

it's common knowledge that terraria players hate everything about this game that isn't bosses

[visual kiln]

its actually not

[mighty zenith]

im overexaggerating but its still pretty common

[bleak escarp]

Azzy is objectively correct imo

[bleak escarp]

True

[pliant ruin]

f

i didnt mean to send that wtf

f

[mighty zenith]

f indeed

ow my teeth hurt

[visual kiln]

u just

make the lore not get in the way

[pliant ruin]

thts true

[visual kiln]

short cutscene type thing where slime god makes queen slime wouldn't hurt anyone for example

[mighty zenith]

yeah that type of stuff could definitely be added

[bleak escarp]

Just make esc skip it if you don’t want to watch probably

[pliant ruin]

or ideally KILL QUEEN SLIME

[visual kiln]

ya thats lore

[pliant ruin]

KILL QUEEN SLIME

[visual kiln]

ingame storytelling

or like

[wheat walrus]

yea lemme solo her

[bleak escarp]

But I like queen slime

[mighty zenith]

rework queen slime completely into a good and interesting boss

[pliant ruin]

slime god after turning into a joke boss

[visual kiln]

having ravager get summoned by the resurrection happening ingame

[pliant ruin]

isnt it implied it happens before though

like

[visual kiln]

no

[pliant ruin]

before the events of the game

[visual kiln]

nothing says that

[mighty zenith]

slime god when it dies with a fucking FART SOUND

[pliant ruin]

yeah but itd make sense

since yharim saw it

[visual kiln]

did he ?

[pliant ruin]

whisper

he saw it before

[mighty zenith]

i mean
he talks about it

[pliant ruin]

so it means it was created before he went ot the aerie

[visual kiln]

but also lore items r gonna be replaced with yharim talking to u iirc

so u could just like

[deft vessel]

What are we loreing now?

[visual kiln]

be the one to tell him ab it

[pliant ruin]

i dont think

the terrarian is gonna talk

specially when theyre supposed to b a blank slate

[visual kiln]

ur gonna still talk to yharim

[bleak escarp]

Ravaged was created in a desperate attempt to stop yharim

[visual kiln]

thats not against terrarian being a blank slate

[pliant ruin]

well i mean if its dialogue options sure

but if its like

just direct talking

then id say it is

[pliant ruin]

also yeah actually this

[proven rivet]

Where did you get this from

[mighty zenith]

yharim

[pliant ruin]

no like its literally canon

[bleak escarp]

Lore document

[proven rivet]

right

[pliant ruin]

ravager was created as one last attempt to ressurect their god and defeat yharim

[visual kiln]

's armies

[pliant ruin]

thats like the entire point

[bleak escarp]

That

[visual kiln]

and what about that contradicts rav being resurrected ingame

[pliant ruin]

because

there arent any yharim armies anymore

theyre gone

[bleak escarp]

We did resurrect him

[visual kiln]

yharim's armies still exist tho

just scattered

there's multiple factions that call themselves yharim's army iirc

[pliant ruin]

it'd be really lame for them to revive their god to deal with some random yharim troopers

imo

[visual kiln]

and also yharim is still alive

[pliant ruin]

like its this big sacrifice thing and its just some soldiers

[visual kiln]

as is yharon

[deft vessel]

I mean they would be more like warbands

[pliant ruin]

why r you so insistent on this idea sob

[visual kiln]

idk it was an example of ingame storytelling

[pliant ruin]

u could pick another example tho

bc that one dosent make much sense

[visual kiln]

but also literally nothing contradicts it

and i dont see how it wouldn't make much sense

[pliant ruin]

not directly but based on context yeah

[visual kiln]

no?

[pliant ruin]

it just dosen't fit narratively as well

like

again

its

[visual kiln]

there's no ingame narrative is the problem tho

just u fight this thing then this thing then this thing then explore this area then

[pliant ruin]

rav followers sacrificing themselves to try ressurecting their god to fight yharim's army/yharim for one last time

vs

rav followers sacrificing themselves to try ressurecting their god to fight a disbanded group of yharim soldiers

one that you could probably just go and maul tbh

[visual kiln]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

i mean yharim and yharon are both

still alive

and present enough for yharon to go after u

[pliant ruin]

yeah but they're not active threats currently

[deft vessel]

It would be really nice if calclones shell broke during the fight

[pliant ruin]

and the entire point is that it was out of desperation

[visual kiln]

and also dog is a thing still

[pliant ruin]

yeah but dog is not

[visual kiln]

and calamitas

[pliant ruin]

mentioned anywhere

in ravs lore thing

nor is cal

and why would cal do anything to them

[visual kiln]

plum

thats fair tho

[warm gull]

I think that

@visual kiln

it would be cool if a lot of cal lore was just edited and rewritten to occur during gameplay

tbh

[split mortar]

I think it wouldn’t be better

It’s written a lot in the context of yharim being no longer an active threat and has ravaged the world

It would require a lot of changes and maybe some complete changes to explain things just so it happens in game

[warm gull]

yeah, with the current lore

I'm saying edit it

rewrite parts

make it more active

[visual kiln]

TRUE

YES

THAT WOUDL BE AWESOME

[warm gull]

instead of just a timeline up to the point where the game starts

[visual kiln]

actual story

instead of just

backstory

[bleak escarp]

That would be better than floating thing with paragraph

[visual kiln]

yea

[split mortar]

I also think it would need a massive change on yharims personality

[indigo glade]

New Calamity fangame: Start of Yharim

[bleak escarp]

But remember

[split mortar]

I think if lore was happening and not mostly in the past it would also not fit terraria, yea I do think it could work (with a LOT of work) but i think it wouldn’t fit with terraria or what calamity wants to do with the player character

[warm gull]

Beginning of Yharim

Rise of Yharim

new RTS game where you play as yharim conquering the planet and killing gods

[split mortar]

Civ 6 but you’re yharim

[visual kiln]

well cal having lore already doesnt fit terraria so /shrug

and also a lot of what cal does doesnt fit terraria

i.e. 7 difficulty options

balancing everything around rev

[split mortar]

By fit in terraria I’m on about the sand box style

[visual kiln]

doesnt contradict having ingame story

[warm gull]

"what calamity wants to do with the player character"

[visual kiln]

bosses already exist and arguably those contradict the sandbox style just as much as lore does

[split mortar]

What about it

[visual kiln]

also yea nothing about player being a blank slate contradicts story happening around the player

cause and effect still apply to the world

[warm gull]

sorry meant to say

behold

[warm gull]

what calamity wants to do with the player character:

can't believe there are still people named ploo here

[noble niche]

The terrarian is canonically @glossy pagoda so no pressure dude

[proven rivet]

DEMON

[pliant ruin]

calamity lore happening ingame rather than being a backstory would b interesting

[split mortar]

Yeah

[mighty zenith]

you

[deft vessel]

It would be just a bit difficult to pull of

[split mortar]

And also require a lot of changes to the lore

[untold oracle]

This confirms we HATE DEMON

[random mulch]

average day

[proven rivet]

Draedon fired his super laser piss

[dusk laurel]

Weakest laser Thanatos shoots out of its maw

[deft vessel]

Photovicerator lore

[light linden]

reminds me of this

[eager bluff]

thats a fuckin movie score

[random mulch]

edited unfortunately

[hot valve]

Hello lore

[dusk laurel]

Hai

[dusk laurel]

Hello lemon mug

[split mortar]

Die

[hybrid barn]

Mine is a farmer who just stumbles into killing gods while gathering resources

[stark basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-moon-lord-josh-hutcherson-whistle-gif-11278917756883322479

[pliant ruin]

mine is a self insert 👍

moon lord poster return

[dusk laurel]

No way

Kana hath returned

[stark basalt]

The people will follow me, im the voice of the people. MODS SHANT SUPRESS ME

[hybrid barn]

Mods, suppress this fool

[frank dune]

Hello everyone

[stark basalt]

That would be very not nice, people like my moonlord gifs

[fading helm]

Why is he called moon lord when his real goverment name is fovos

[gray mirage]

I want the calamity lore doc read at my wedding and or funeral

[warped rapids]

if you do that at your wedding yharim himself will show up to read the vows thats actually been scientifically proven

[gray mirage]

oh that's sick

what if my boyfriend kills him and becomes the new jungle tyrant

do we get to keep the dragon as a pet

[warped rapids]

yes you do

hes just a bit big youll need a big yard

[gray mirage]

yeah yeah we got space

he can sleep in the pool

how big is he actually

[proven rivet]

Outdated lore, in my #lore-discussion !?

[split mortar]

KANA HATH RETURN

[light linden]

Who is kana

[split mortar]

Kana

You’ll learn

[faint plank]

manlord

[split mortar]

NO

[drifting canyon]

what is going on in here

[dusk laurel]

Not lore I don't think

[hot valve]

I MISSED YOU KANA

[river python]

me back

and i have a question for all

Between
Heart Plus Up
DM Dokuro
CD Music
ENNWAY
and Pinpinneon
Which is your favorite Calamity composer?

[dusk laurel]

Question

How is this lore related

[river python]

hmm

banana

[dusk laurel]

Not good enough

[river python]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-seal-sad-cry-meme-seal-gif-19608082

[pliant ruin]

mili

[river python]

the creator of what soundtrack?

[pliant ruin]

the good ones

[river python]

like what

[dusk laurel]

The good ones

[river python]

incredible

[pliant ruin]

personally i'm a pretty big children of the city fan

string theocracy and hero and through patches of violet are all p good tho

[river python]

what is the good ones

can you said one

[dusk laurel]

One

[wheat walrus]

Ain't this project moon

[river python]

incredible

[pliant ruin]

no it's calamity what do you mean

what do you mean through patches of violet dosen't play when you fight devourer of gods?

[gray mirage]

dm dokuro!!

[pliant ruin]

:(

not a good post

[gray mirage]

he is my favorite tho

he was my like my second artist on Spotify in 2022

[pliant ruin]

besides the fact comparing artists is just kind of Cringe dm dokuro would probably thank you if he was your least favorite cal composer 😭

[dusk laurel]

[river python]

they're all goods

[gray mirage]

fair enough, yeah I like all calamity music

[dusk laurel]

I have an answer now

[gray mirage]

only his is on Spotify tho...

[river python]

me too

[gray mirage]

I had one of my friends cheat me in namesless' theme

[dusk laurel]

Hemolacria

[river python]

Vanilla Calamity Music of Heart plus up background music is great

[pliant ruin]

mili did not make any songs with the name hemloacria

bemo

hemolacria

i would know i am #1 mili fan

[river python]

Wotg?

[dusk laurel]

Mili was real, but one day they vanished

[pliant ruin]

mili is still real

[dusk laurel]

Hecto stole their Terraria Calamity Mod I think

[pliant ruin]

is this a deez nuts joke

[dusk laurel]

No

I don't do those

[warm gull]

hector salamanca

[dusk laurel]

How would a gnome powerscale against all of Draedon's creations at once

[pliant ruin]

i think pretty high

like have you guys seen gnomes

they have funny little moustaches

idk if draedon can compete against that

[dusk laurel]

They are too silly

[gray mirage]

they have powers over probability

[dusk laurel]

Draedon might try recruiting them instead

It wouldn't work but at least he tried

[gray mirage]

probably

[pliant ruin]

so called "ultimate weapons" when funny little guys with a red cone hat and a big moustached nose show up

[dusk laurel]

A goblin could take down aureus no competition

Not the goblins in-game

[spare pier]

Out of context Calamity Development

[dusk laurel]

Providence Healer

[spare pier]

Having come up with a means of integrating the Guide in Cal Lore makes me feel all powerful

[pliant ruin]

i have killed the guide

[dusk laurel]

I threw him into Azafure, he must be dead

[pliant ruin]

i have killed azafure

[dusk laurel]

Okay Brimmy

[pliant ruin]

i have killed brimmy.... i am

the killer

[spare pier]

This is like, BY FAR AND WIDE

The hardest thing to integrate into the story

[trim edge]

is everything about the guide intergrated

like why he knows all the recipes

[spare pier]

That's just gameplay it doesn't matter and I always interpreted it as the Guide just going "I think this is how you could use it"

[spare pier]

I think the only thing you could consider harder is Frost and Pumpkim Moons

[trim edge]

is guide spawning wof still canon
bcuz i remember something about "it specifically being the guide is a vanilla thing"

[spare pier]

There is a reason the Guide has a bunch of Voodoo Dolls and shit

But he is not exclusively the only one capable of doing it

Or he is, idk

I think both interpretations are valid given what I came up with

Vanillin I was answering your question..........

[dusk laurel]

_ _

[trim edge]

my headcanon was always that yharim got someone to curse the guide and soulbind him to wof after the guide trespassed or something

[spare pier]

Answering it, I can give you a direct answer

3

Guide, Mechanic and Princess

[trim edge]

wait what was the question

[spare pier]

How many NPCs are getting Cal stuff

[dusk laurel]

From Vanilla

[spare pier]

I don't think any other NPC is interesting enough

Nor do they need alterations

I might end up adding one thing to the Angler and I already kinda did I think

[trim edge]

nurse knowing your death count is 100% canon

[hybrid barn]

Maybe the guide is just one of many people just like him, like a community of guide-shaped scholars

[dusk laurel]

I'm kind of am interested in what the princess is doing

[spare pier]

"Not sure how [Name of Angler] has not been roasted and digested by now, hanging around the sulphuric seas for so long. Perhaps it has gotten to his head."

[trim edge]

roasted?

oh the steam vents

[spare pier]

Yeah so it doesn't come across well but I just wanted to make a change to imply

[dusk laurel]

Is this replacement dialogue for Amidias' comments about throwing him to a trasher

[spare pier]

The Angler is a fucking menace and Amidias is absolutely dumbfounded by it

Because somehow that kid does not fucking die

[trim edge]

children being immortal is canon

[spare pier]

Yeah that's where I got it from

[spare pier]

He still has it even if I wanted to change it

It's a hint towards the Golden Rod drop which ngl

Might go away

[dusk laurel]

Isn't that getting nuked eventually

[spare pier]

I will see about that

If it does get nuked the dialogue also gets

[dusk laurel]

How is the dialogue system gonna work for [most] Cal npcs? Will it still just be like Vanilla?

I heard of plans for something about it, but nothing really concrete I don't think

[sinful adder]

Amidias being able to forgive calamitas but not angler is kinda strange

[wheat walrus]

angler bad angler bad

[sinful adder]

Like, not every single NPC completely hates the angler. The pirate likes him

And amidias and the pirate like each other

[dusk laurel]

Angler eats fish I think, and Amidias is fish adjacent

[wheat walrus]

imagine if calamitas didn't just do allat but also ate the ilmeran people

[dusk laurel]

Amidias would tell any Ilmeran survivor he encountered to hunt her down ig

[hybrid barn]

Hungry rabid child

[wheat walrus]

😭

[spring helm]

angler's direspectful of the sea life he catches

that's probably why

8 year old Angler vs 8 year old Calamitas who wins

[sinful adder]

I wonder if we actually know this. I guess he might be

Hmm, yeah he kinda is from the prank stuff we hear about

[light linden]

iirc amidias literally says that's why he hates them

[hybrid barn]

"<Name of Angler> the Angler is just a child, but his attitude towards marine life is unacceptable! Absolutely unacceptable!"

[fierce pagoda]

How many vanilla npcs already have cal changes to them?

I can think of Clothier and Dryad off the top of my head

And i mean lore changes not like items sold

[hybrid barn]

I think the Mechanic might've had some changes, to accommodate for the mech trio lore changes
I could be wrong, though

[light linden]

she had to

her reasoning for being in the dungeon in vanilla no longer applies

[fierce pagoda]

Steampunker pulling up with astral solution somehow

[spring helm]

Astral does infect things naturally

Could just bottle it up and spray it at things

The more strange solution is the green solution

[hybrid barn]

Honestly, I'm just surprised she could contain it, because of its thing with infecting machines

[spring helm]

Who made a solution that purifies divine essence and why did Yharim not use it

[fierce pagoda]

Purity in a bottle

Shes selling it

[hybrid barn]

I think the reason is because he intentionally let the crimson and corruption fester to make a statement out of the gods he killed, and because they wouldn't actively spread much further than they already had, they weren't too big of a problem...then by the time you kill the Wall of Flesh, he'd already just about given up on life

[hushed geyser]

[spring helm]

I’m scared

[dusk laurel]

I feel threatened

[gritty kraken]

Clothier(skeletronless)vs polterghast who winnin here

[fierce pagoda]

Polterjimbo

Why did you give clothier an unnecessary buff by removing skeletron, we all know skeletron is actually holding him back

[hybrid barn]

I wonder if the clothier can use magic

[fierce pagoda]

Lol he does in game

[light linden]

ngl when I first heard about the polterghast I thought they were some kind of angry monster that chased intruders out of the dungeon

[fierce pagoda]

When he defends himself

He shoots shadowflame skulls

[hybrid barn]

Okay yeah, I thought I remembered that! So I feel like he could have a chance

[dusk laurel]

Realistically, Polter would rip him to shreds

And add him to the collection

[fierce pagoda]

No

No nuhuh

[dusk laurel]

:(

[hybrid barn]

That's a double negative

[fierce pagoda]

If we give clothier our auric armor and an exo weapon he can

Wonder which hater made clothier voodoo dolls in the dungeon

Why cant we use clothiee voodoo dollms to summon the wall of flesh

Is clothier becoming skeletron again by using the clothier voodoo demon canon?

[indigo glade]

I don't believe anything ingame even hints at the lore Mechanic supposedly has.

[warm gull]

bug

[light linden]

I mean she does have a house

which is something

[indigo glade]

I was talking about Vanilla.

[light linden]

oh sorry

[scenic olive]

does greatsword fit Yharim like bread and butter

or should he have other weapon, what and why

[wheat walrus]

greatsword

https://tenor.com/view/boop-monster-hunter-world-mhw-slash-sword-gif-17743281

[scenic olive]

[scenic olive]

im glad that now i played mh i can understand this

[wheat walrus]

peak

[scenic olive]

peak indeed

[noble niche]

I hope that the new sunken sea has ruins of ilmeris. It'll be cool checking out this once grand kingdom

[sinful adder]

It will

[light linden]

lore wise what are the eow and boc?

I always thought they were the end result of what remains of the evil gods trying to make a servant

[gritty kraken]

Some kind of big monster in evil biome

Like eow is just a big devourer

[pliant ruin]

Theyre just evil biome monsters yeag

[light linden]

y'all think anyone's ever tried to settle in the upper abyss?

[hot valve]

Yeah the fish there

[light linden]

I meant like sentient people

be it illmerians or another group

[pliant ruin]

Maybe

I feel like there'd probably be signs of civilization if that was the case though

[gritty kraken]

Angler

[light linden]

the place has undergone a lot of changes multiple times though

from the fumes of azafure rising up, to draedon's dumping of literal nuclear weapons, and silva actively remaking the place

[scenic olive]

ok then how did EoC came to exist

[warm gull]

I don't think that the abyss is that big, canonically

and they'd have to be ilmerans or smth

a group of people who can breathe in water

[gritty kraken]

I think it just spawn out of evil biome

crimson

[warm gull]

well beasts like the eoc have apparently existed for a very long time

even before yharim's crusade

[pliant ruin]

they spawn out of random dead evil gods i think?

ones that aren't part of the evil biomes i guess

[indigo glade]

It would make sense that similar things have existed before. If many make a biome, then one can just make a single creature. And there were probably other times Gods have died aside from Crusades, like conflicts with Auric Dragons or against other Gods.

[gritty kraken]

eoc sounding like a species of flying eyes rn

[fading helm]

werent those beast made more from negative emotions or smth rather than just evil biomes

(god essence leftovers)

[sinful adder]

The evil biomes are made from the essence of evil gods, but also probably by gods themselves

[scenic olive]

I thought EoC predates the deific era and has long existed since then

[gritty kraken]

Then they’re probably their own thing

[indigo glade]

They aren't...

[untold bluff]

the stupid bug

[sinful adder]

Monsters like EoC have existed for that long

[fading helm]

Nah its dead god essence

that isnt taken care of

[sinful adder]

that's what I said

[fading helm]

how could a god create em

[sinful adder]

oh wait, hold on

[fading helm]

without dying

[sinful adder]

uh

I was refering to two different things accidentally

the monsters were made by evil biomes and also gods

the biomes were made by dead god essence

[devout grotto]

Wait which stuff in the Beastiary's being rewritten again?

[split mortar]

Should be somewhere in this image

[empty dew]

Laserfish and some (or most, idk) vanilla entries

[split mortar]

All bosses and chaos elemental atleast

Anyways coleg time bai

[stark basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-moon-lord-josh-hutcherson-whistle-gif-11278917756883322479

[untold oracle]

You are treading a path of danger..,

[real silo]

Kana you crazy

[frank dune]

Hello

[warm gull]

no auric tier absorber when yes auric tier absorber walks in

[warm gull]

lore. iscussion

[pliant ruin]

lore concussion

what if there was like

a big wulfrum machine

and it flied

and it spawned little wulfrums

and it had a big drill on its underside

and it was called a "wulfrum mothership"

[real silo]

Cheese stop shilling roy

[pliant ruin]

i have nothing else to talk about im bored

i can talk about fish

heres this guy

hes pretty cool

[pliant ruin]

tiny guy tho

deep sea fish dont tend to get very big theyre mostly kinda tiny

theres like a few rare exceptions and they tend to not live DEEP deep

Cephalopods get big tho

theres like

6 different giant deep sea cephalopods i can think of

Colossal, Giant, Clubhook, Humdboldt , Magnapinna

tho thats 5

but i swear the re was a 6th one

[frank dune]

Hello everyone

https://tenor.com/view/hello-hello-chat-chat-gif-11854988458409488653

[untold oracle]

Wait is polterghast technically plantera naked

[brave dew]

And with an armor

[scenic olive]

Let me infuse the soil with souls what could go wrong

[brave dew]

Naked plantera would kinda be the enraged version

Polterghast is like that one scene in regular show

With MUSCLE man

[scenic olive]

[mortal marlin]

Friends, my colleague and I are thinking about a question here. How old is Calamitas?

[untold oracle]

She’s in her late twenties

[mortal marlin]

wow

okay

mommy...

[hoary berry]

[dusk laurel]

[mortal marlin]

[sinful adder]

She's not in to you

[cloud ibex]

i sentence you to the hydraulic press

[wheat walrus]

you are NOT Ryomen Sukuna

[cloud ibex]

you will be reduced to a 1cmx1cm cube as punishment for your actions

never speak again

[mortal marlin]

rly?

[mortal marlin]

no

[untold oracle]

No she’s a girlfailure..,

And also she’s aroace

[mortal marlin]

Yes

[wheat walrus]

respect!!!

[deft vessel]

[frank dune]

https://tenor.com/view/mgr-metal-gear-rising-rock-rockcustom-sam-gif-24643451

Btw hello everyone

[scenic olive]

:KILL:

[brave dew]

Late 20s ?

Mommy...

[cloud ibex]

shut UP bro!!!!!! you're weird!!!!!!!!!

[mortal marlin]

nah

[sinful adder]

Can we ban this guy

[wheat walrus]

kill em

https://tenor.com/view/travis-scott-utopia-tour-smirk-cactus-jack-gif-2878604177756399495

[heady vapor]

What is happening in MY CMT lore discussion

[wheat walrus]

this ain't cmt

:/

[heady vapor]

Again

What is happening in MY CMT lore discussion

[wheat walrus]

nothing that's not real

[sleek halo]

it would be

CMD lore discussion

[real silo]

I love calamity mod dalk

[faint plank]

calamity mod draedon

[brave dew]

dardon*

[untold oracle]

Malamity cod raedrfon

[dusk laurel]

Calamity mod dose

[untold oracle]

8 hrs a day

[sleek halo]

calamity mod discord…

explogds u

[real silo]

Calamity mod dikairam

[sleek halo]

tru

[deft vessel]

Discord mod calamity

[cosmic minnow]

even as one of those calamitas fans (dont get me wrong, i love her character overall) i recommend you dont say such stuff here

[pliant ruin]

wghat the fuck ahpepnde her

shes aroace leave her alone

[cosmic minnow]

jokes on you, i know that, i also know that even if she wasnt i wouldnt be her type anyways

im not trying to be with her, even in fiction, lmao

[worthy sierra]

So she's legal

Me when calamity mod has gooners

[mighty zenith]

they'll never find your body

[worthy sierra]

Jokes on you uhhh

Uhhh

I forgot what to say

[cosmic minnow]

brother, im pretty sure she would burn you

[dusk laurel]

You shall be boiled

[untold oracle]

Count your limbs tonight :)

[cloud ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/kill-everyone-wheel-i-hate-you-gif-7282616540403564084

[mighty zenith]

embed calamity

[cloud ibex]

you can infer the intention behind the gif from the name

[gritty kraken]

Another addition to sepulcher body

[deft vessel]

Your toilet seat has been turned into a landmine

[brave dew]

Most people like them illegal

I like em too legal

[untold oracle]

What the fuck

[sleek halo]

this

chat needs to be

cleansed

[faint plank]

slime cleansing

[brave dew]

I dont see why people always think of cmt being the worst chat

[magic epoch]

it is

[brave dew]

But why tho

[magic epoch]

most active channel

[brave dew]

That's it ?

[magic epoch]

this chat is good Usually

[magic epoch]

no

you don't understand

it's the most active channel

meaning it also gets the most weird people

[brave dew]

Right

[brave dew]

Keyword usually

All the people talking about lore is pretty eh...

[pliant ruin]

This chat usually dosen't have freaks of nature on it

Unfortunately though you get people making weird unfunny jokes from time to time

but it is what it is

that's that and this is this

[dusk laurel]

?

This is lore discussion

[brave dew]

That's the joke

[pliant ruin]

Incomprehensible

[dusk laurel]

The joke sucked tbh

[brave dew]

Whatever

[dusk laurel]

This channel is already off-topic enough

[faint plank]

🚠

[devout grotto]

Oh yeah I actually kind of have a completely different direction for Amatsumara's lore now, thanks to the same friend that gave me the name idea

Although I'm probably just gonna make it a volcano dragon just so it's still a bit of a related domain (and slight Hephaestus reference)

The story will still be a bit similar regardless

(Btw Amenomahitotsu is another name for Amatsumara)

[hybrid barn]

If I may, how should one pronounce "Amenomahitotsu"?

[untold oracle]

Uh

Amenomahitotsu

Tricky for english natives

Oh yeah so is expert rev the canon difficulity in terms of boss abilities etc?

[dusk laurel]

Yah

[untold oracle]

I personally headcanon infernum is more accurate in terms of abilities for scal specifically

No way the person that incinerated an entire sea is only capable of fireball & big fireball

[devout grotto]

Ame (as in American)
Noma (as in nomad without the D)
Hi (as in he)
To (as in told but without the last two letters)
Tsu (as in tsunami)

I only have a tiny knowledge of Japanese tho so that's the best I can approximate the sounds

[hybrid barn]

Oh nice, that's actually pretty helpful!

[devout grotto]

Npnp

[noble niche]

I love how you can just kill Yharon with guns. Like one of the most powerful beings in terraria can get killed by really big firearm.

[cloud ibex]

i think most things can be killed if you simply bring a big enough firearm

[frozen zodiac]

everyone has a gun limit

[noble niche]

How many guns does it take to kill goku

[mighty zenith]

guns hurt

and its not like this is a dbz situation where yharon can benchpress a planet

[untold oracle]

One (if powerful enough)

[hybrid barn]

Kind of like the thing with vampires dying from getting staked through the heart

[noble niche]

Is goku canon to calamity lore is another important thing to know.

[mighty zenith]

of course he is

[untold oracle]

Yeah

[noble niche]

I bet scal and goku could chill

[mighty zenith]

as long as you put a red circle over something

[deft vessel]

Duh

[untold oracle]

He’s the adopted son of Jungle Tyrant Yharim and Nameless Deity (Xeroc)

[mighty zenith]

goku would want to fight xeroc and then get disappointed that he's so much weaker

but then again goku would do that with like 90% of fiction

[hybrid barn]

Y'know, genuine lore question based on this, what was Yharim's whole deal back when he was just "Jungle Tyrant Yharim"?

[cloud ibex]

i think goku and most people could chill as long as they're not a rat bastard

[mighty zenith]

he was uh

[cloud ibex]

[untold oracle]

Genuine asshole who wanted to kill xeroc I think

[deft vessel]

King of the jungle

[mighty zenith]

from the jungle

and he uh

he wanted to be a tyrant

and his uh

his name was yharim

thats basically it, genuinely

[cloud ibex]

they never really got far enough to give him a proper... well, anything before the rewrite

[hybrid barn]

Ahh, some things never change...

[deft vessel]

Well im not sure if his name was Yharim at that point

[mighty zenith]

they just made him an absolute asshole with no real motive besides being an asshole

[untold oracle]

Yharim has always been there

[mighty zenith]

and they made him come from the jungle because

[untold oracle]

It’s in 1.1.7

Which was 7 years ago

[deft vessel]

Oh wait this was old lore

[hybrid barn]

I think it was, because I was watching those animated lore videos back when he was just the jungle tyrant, and I distinctly remember always confusing him with Yharon

[mighty zenith]

Yharim existed for years but I'm pretty sure he was either never or almost never namedropped in-game

until either 1.5 or from the ashes

[deft vessel]

I was thinking this was about Yharim in lore before he refused ascencion

[untold oracle]

Fun fact even draedon has been around for a long time

(Draedon bars exist in 1.1.7)

[mighty zenith]

(which was the case with a lot of characters)

braelor was not mentioned by name a single time

[noble niche]

Kill gods, get bitches men

[hybrid barn]

Sounds like a worthy purpose to live for!

[untold oracle]

Statis has been tho

[mighty zenith]

yeah he got two whole items

and thats like

[untold oracle]

Accessories like statis’ curse

[deft vessel]

Was Brealor even a thing back then

[mighty zenith]

it

both statis and braelor had like

fully fledged backstories

which went completely unmentioned in-game

because they were fucking dead

[untold oracle]

Braelor and statis lore back then
1.) Gets killed by dog
2.) Uhh that’s all

[hybrid barn]

Even back then? That's pretty cool!

[deft vessel]

Pluh

[mighty zenith]

like that was also a big issue with old lore

[hybrid barn]

I mean, I know they existed because of those concepts of them after being necromanced, but still

[mighty zenith]

bringing a lot of cool ideas and then doing absolutely nothing with them

statis, braelor and silva

provi's backstory

[deft vessel]

1.make cool thing
2.dont use it

[untold oracle]

Man provi’s backstory was so cool in old lore too
Primordial being formed by strong forces of mana and literally resides in the core of the sun

[noble niche]

Lore question, as a Filty Queer (tm) i say bitch plz with a high frequency but is the a derogatory term for men I can say and say plz after? How does this fall into the calamity lore?

[deft vessel]

Dude?

[brave dew]

Yes

[mighty zenith]

incomprehensible, may God have mercy on your wretched soul

[devout grotto]

❓

[noble niche]

Second question, why the fuck isent yermes christal working it throughs a pice of dnimite

[deft vessel]

What be yalls headcanons on how Yharim talks to you?

[mighty zenith]

through a straw and two empty cans at each end

[noble niche]

Like a teenage girl on an early 2000's landlines phone who's curling her finger around the wire

[deft vessel]

I ment like in the lore items but interesting

[hybrid barn]

I get the feeling that he has some sort of telepathic ability, but that's really just my best guess

[deft vessel]

I write it so that he astral projects himself to you

[mighty zenith]

,

[stark basalt]

if Yharim use Yharon auric soul, would he be God of Rebirth or his name will change?

[mighty zenith]

it's implied you need the terminus to perform a pure ascension

so, unless he had that, he wouldn't have the same domain as Yharon

[stark basalt]

ohh

aight aight

thanks

btw