lore-discussion

[inner crescent]

oh I see

[pliant ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/under-new-management-more-like-under-new-management-megamind-megamind-meme-jokez_da_joke-gif-19867663

[dusk laurel]

[inner crescent]

that sounds about right

[cloud ibex]

i don't think Providence needs elaboration but it's also been stated that the Dragon of Flame was an asshole

[inner crescent]

hm

How many canon dragons are there

[deft vessel]

Hmm. I guess if you count the exo tech

[pliant ruin]

Uhhh

[dusk laurel]

Exotech just makes his armor better

I think

[pliant ruin]

Dragon of Flame, Yharon, Vetrasyl, Xeratros, Dragon of Death, Dragon of Life

Am i forgetting any

oh

[dusk laurel]

Frost

[brisk ore]

dragon of flame sound so weird without context

[pliant ruin]

Dragon of Gluttony

[brisk ore]

like damn

[pliant ruin]

Dragon of Frost too

[brisk ore]

just dragon IS dragon of flame

[cloud ibex]

also Gravity

[dusk laurel]

Oh yeah

That too

[deft vessel]

It does not really make sense that even with the atunement your body is starting to die but you get stronger

[inner crescent]

Where did all of these dragons come from excluding light and yharon

[deft vessel]

World soul

[dusk laurel]

Birds that took shards of the world soul

[cloud ibex]

vetrasyl is the dragon of storms, the dragons of Life and Death are the ones whose souls were consumed by Silva and Ravager respectively

[inner crescent]

Where did the vetra dragon end up

[split mortar]

World soul broke and the fragments are related to the auric souls and their domains somehow

[split mortar]

Otonilou, god of electricity iirc

[cloud ibex]

the Dragon of Gravity doesn't exist in-game yet but he's been mentioned as the soul consumed by the God of Space, who iirc was the strongest god other than Xeroc

[deft vessel]

Ah yes a bird

[cloud ibex]

there's also the dragon of... which one did Tyrian get again

[dusk laurel]

[brisk ore]

world soul?soul of terraria?

[inner crescent]

Who’s tyrian

[dusk laurel]

god of the seas

[cloud ibex]

one of Ilmeris' deities

[dusk laurel]

One of the Ilmeran gods

[inner crescent]

Ain’t that amidas

oh wait no

[cloud ibex]

nah

[inner crescent]

He’s the king

[cloud ibex]

tyrian is an anglerfish dude with a megaman arm cannon

[brisk ore]

i love how we can have a literal king of the seas as a little trader man living in a prison like house

[inner crescent]

what

[inner crescent]

he has no more kingdom

[deft vessel]

Someone locate the concept art

[dusk laurel]

Pins

[inner crescent]

A king without a kingdom is just a peasant

[cloud ibex]

this dude

[dusk laurel]

He still resides in a temple

[inner crescent]

damn

[dusk laurel]

Not ingame yet

[untold oracle]

Hai hai

[inner crescent]

wym a temple

[split mortar]

Yharm compared to scal

[brisk ore]

this is such a funny image for no reason

[dusk laurel]

He will be found in a temple

[brisk ore]

it doesnt make yharim feel big

[dusk laurel]

After the update drops

[brisk ore]

it makes cal seem very short

[split mortar]

She is like 5’3

[untold oracle]

Scal is a goober

[split mortar]

She is short

[untold oracle]

5’4
It literally reads there

[split mortar]

I removed my eyes temporarily

(Forgot)

[deft vessel]

She looks so annoyed in that

[inner crescent]

How long have yall been waiting for that

[brisk ore]

seeing your pfp this joke is so much better

[split mortar]

She is next to yharim why wouldn’t she be

[dusk laurel]

2-3 years

There have been updates in between

So not that bad of a wait

[inner crescent]

😭

[deft vessel]

Why isn’t she huddled in the corner

[dusk laurel]

It is a mod

[brisk ore]

hope it isnt the gd situation once again

[dusk laurel]

What do you expect

[inner crescent]

Why did yharim stop working with draedon

[split mortar]

This update has been cooking for years but there’s been updates inbetween

[dusk laurel]

PBG

[cloud ibex]

he got mad over PBG

[deft vessel]

Draedon enslaved a bee and that is a big no no

[split mortar]

Tried to take away free will completely from life (nano plague(touched the bees))

[brisk ore]

🤯

[cloud ibex]

(he came crawling back after Braelor and Statis jumped his ass because he realized he needed upgrades)

[dusk laurel]

Yeah

[untold oracle]

She shouldn’t be annoyed but rather running around while hysterically crying

[deft vessel]

Should have just gotten the next tier of armor smh

[dusk laurel]

[inner crescent]

wait where did yharim get his auric armor if auric ore only spawns when a dragon dies

oh

wait nvm

just realized

[indigo glade]

Gee, Auric Dragons dying? When could that have happened?!

[split mortar]

The time like all The hundreds to thousands of dragons died in a century long period

[deft vessel]

Makes me think what happened to all of it

[inner crescent]

a lot of auric ore must’ve been made

[inner crescent]

Yharim probably got the destroyer to mine all of it

[deft vessel]

Only atuned people can touch it or you go boom

[inner crescent]

And put it in a big pile somewhere

[split mortar]

Destroyer would have exploded

Auric attacks machines aswell

[inner crescent]

then he probably did it himself

[indigo glade]

Amidias knows of mock attunement, so others could have done the same as the player, making mock-attuned Auric equipment.

[inner crescent]

or at least most of it

[deft vessel]

Logical

[indigo glade]

Except they wouldn't have fragments, but the entire soul.

[untold oracle]

I have a headcanon that dragons had champions like gods did, and they had created auric armour for them. Yharon then gave his armour to Yhim

[inner crescent]

Wait what is attunment again

[pliant ruin]

i got jumpscared by seekers pfp

[dusk laurel]

Wow

[cloud ibex]

i think it's been implied in here once that someone else made it long ago and he just took it

[indigo glade]

Gbu!!!!!

[deft vessel]

They just shaved a bit off

[dusk laurel]

Kill

[indigo glade]

:(

[dusk laurel]

:(

Sorry

[deft vessel]

Rude.

[pliant ruin]

i am currently

taking my meds
and after that ill shower

[pliant ruin]

cuz i slept alot so im stinky

[indigo glade]

When a person's and Auric Dragon's soul "become as one". Lets the person use Auric without pacifying it.

[split mortar]

Dragon soul and other soul in sync and the normal one gets benefits (touch normal auric allowed)

[spring helm]

It’s marriage

[inner crescent]

oh ok

[indigo glade]

No.

[spring helm]

Yes

[dusk laurel]

[spring helm]

Attunement is marriage

[deft vessel]

[spring helm]

They are one

[split mortar]

The souls don’t mix iirc

[indigo glade]

I don't see Draedon and Yharim attuning.

[pliant ruin]

true!

[split mortar]

Draedon don’t soul

[dusk laurel]

Real

[split mortar]

Ah so yharimXyharon canon

[deft vessel]

Nah Yharim is atuned and can use exo tech

[inner crescent]

Why was draedon a robot

[split mortar]

Was?

They are

[deft vessel]

Because he is not a human

[indigo glade]

You can't prove that.

[pliant ruin]

Draedon don't Squid Game

[inner crescent]

He messed with peaceful bees

and they make yummy honey so yk

Pretty evil dude

[dusk laurel]

Ehhh

[untold oracle]

Wait is Yharim cheating with Draedon???? Yharon will NOT be happy

[split mortar]

Draedon has no concept of morality in their code, they can’t understand it on a fundamental level

[hoary cape]

Dreadon is an AI

[inner crescent]

damn

[deft vessel]

We should make template answers here for faqs

[inner crescent]

What is that

[split mortar]

Lore doc moment

[deft vessel]

Thats too much reading

[stoic gulch]

Dardon and yherem kissing

[split mortar]

Some fanart of draedon and yharim kissing

No we don’t know what’s beneath yharims mask that’s a guess

[hoary cape]

Skill issue

[inner crescent]

we gotta send you down to the bottom of the abyss

[stoic gulch]

I’m already here

[split mortar]

Someone has it as their pfp

[dusk laurel]

YES

[stoic gulch]

Can’t do much more

[deft vessel]

Jared will consume you

[stoic gulch]

Yes Joby does

[inner crescent]

darn it

[pliant ruin]

Yharim probably looks like the red skull beneath that mask 😭

[hoary cape]

I eat Jared for breakfast

[spring helm]

Now that I think about it, since Yharon came from an egg without any parents

The auric dragons can reproduce asexually

[inner crescent]

That is also possible

like he was burned in lava

[dusk laurel]

Ares was modeled after him

[pliant ruin]

he was burned in lava AND he's way past the expiration date

[inner crescent]

so he probably looks like anakin from Star Wars

[stoic gulch]

[hoary cape]

Yharon was reincarnated

He had died previously

[fierce pagoda]

Does Yharons egg just spawn out of nowhere when he rebirths

[split mortar]

We can jump in lava and be fine for a hot 1 second and not look melted

[inner crescent]

Yea I think

[untold oracle]

You mean skeletron NEO?

[stoic gulch]

Dragons aerie

[split mortar]

Think so

[stoic gulch]

Yes skelli NEO

[inner crescent]

He was in there for a bit longer

[dusk laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/french-you-are-probably-probably-luke-street-fighter-gif-26426237

[hoary cape]

After a while yharon just reappears as an egg after his death

[pliant ruin]

that's because the terrarian is built different

[stoic gulch]

I think he is finish flag

[inner crescent]

Wait how did yharim get yharons egg

[hoary cape]

Wasn't it a gift or something

[pliant ruin]

clearly

[untold oracle]

Actually I’m not

[hoary cape]

I know the gods tried to force yharim to take yharon's soul

[dusk laurel]

I know

[hoary cape]

But he refused

[deft vessel]

Thats right

[pliant ruin]

yeah and i say thats becasue the terrarian is built different

checkmate liberal

[dusk laurel]

True

[deft vessel]

Ye they are built in the character creator

[split mortar]

Too many fancy words

[pliant ruin]

those are 2 words

you are iliterate .....

[untold oracle]

That’s 2 too much

[hoary cape]

Clearly the terrarian is some random guy who got hurt by a slime and decided to just fight everything /j

[dusk laurel]

[pliant ruin]

g

[hoary cape]

2 words is hard to read

[split mortar]

Yeah

[dusk laurel]

Illiterate Discussion

[pliant ruin]

#Iliterate_Discussion

Rename this channel to that

[fierce pagoda]

Why didnt the devs choose for the terrarian to have pre established lore, and instead have the player be a blank slate with NO LORE AT ALL. What are the pros and cons of both?

[hoary cape]

Wrong it's - not _

[dusk laurel]

Open the schools!

[deft vessel]

More personalisation

[pliant ruin]

Because the terrarian is a inherently customizable character

And also like

[hoary cape]

If they have the terrarian lore then it would not allow the players to decide for themselves in the canon

[split mortar]

They wanted the terrarian to be up to you cause terraria is a sandbox game

[deft vessel]

You dont need to world build as much

[pliant ruin]

Since terraria is a sandbox and you can do whatever
let's say the terrarian is a kind and gentle soul in the lore
but then they burn the angler alive or something

it just

dosen't really work

[hoary cape]

The angler is annoying though

[fierce pagoda]

There are other games with customizable characters, but they have at least some lore to explain why they are where they are and doing what they are doing. Terrarian kust doesnt even have the smallets smidge of official lore

[dusk laurel]

The angler is questionable, but doesn't deserve death imo

[hoary cape]

Despite him being a child which makes removing him morally wrong

[fierce pagoda]

It just made me wonder

[split mortar]

@pliant ruin does roy let you be whatever or is the player character a pre established character

[pliant ruin]

pre established

[dusk laurel]

There is a protag

[deft vessel]

You bad at naming

[pliant ruin]

the protags design was posted already

[deft vessel]

That canon

[dusk laurel]

Yah

[split mortar]

I woke up from a accidental sleep I dont memory rn

[untold oracle]

You have all the freedom of creating your own story

[devout grotto]

Yeah, it's honestly more fun that way

[split mortar]

It does have a small smidge

We suck at naming

[fierce pagoda]

Thats the best part of having the terrarian have no lore, you can make uo your own crazy stories

[devout grotto]

Ngl I kinda find it funny how different my Terrarian/s are when I was first into Calamity and now that I returned though

[fierce pagoda]

Its fun to think up of backstories to your own characters

[devout grotto]

During 2020, it was less of a singular Terrarian and more like multiple of them

Kind of a ragtag team

[fierce pagoda]

What if my OC isnt bad at naming? Now the story hampers my sandboxing experience😢 mod ruined

[devout grotto]

Buuuuuuuut after coming back, I just decided to just, idk

OC-fy the default Terrarian

[dusk laurel]

[devout grotto]

And give them a female version

Although they're still the same person

[hoary cape]

We still named a lot of the items we get poorly lol

[stoic gulch]

??????

[devout grotto]

Wait lemme pull the sprites up

[untold oracle]

Female terrarian 💯

[devout grotto]

REAL

[stoic gulch]

Reminded me of this

[fierce pagoda]

You made me think of that one guy on twitter who got mad that Terraria is removing the male and female icons in the character creation in 1.4.5

[devout grotto]

Like I can imagine them being either of these two versions being the Terrarian in my story

[pliant ruin]

terraria WOKE????? grrr.... TERRARAI WOKE

[untold oracle]

Grrr… I HATE when I get to customize my character further!

[deft vessel]

Darn liberals grr

[devout grotto]

THEYrraria 🤯

[pliant ruin]

wait till they found out a trans girl worked on terraria

[dusk laurel]

"The liberals are turning my kids gay!"

[devout grotto]

[fierce pagoda]

I dont even think the icons are getting removed, the image posted was a work in progress anyways

Bro was mad for no reason

[devout grotto]

Wait which dev was that :O

[pliant ruin]

ghostar

[fierce pagoda]

Some people just WANT to be angry

[dusk laurel]

Fake fan

[devout grotto]

Oooo

[split mortar]

-# the trans potion that’s been existing for like, over five years

[devout grotto]

Anyway my current version of the Terrarian just comes from years of playing stuff like Genshin, HSR and recently WuWa

[deft vessel]

Hope it removes boob armor

[fierce pagoda]

Honestly if you quit playing terraria over some icons you have bigger issues to worry about

[hoary cape]

Melon typed in darker text this is crazy

[untold oracle]

[split mortar]

WHAR

[devout grotto]

I mean Fire Emblem does that kind of stuff too but I'm way more familiar with the games I mentioned anyway

[dusk laurel]

The what.

[hoary cape]

The text on my side is darker than normal

For just your post

[split mortar]

I know, it also shrinks it

hehe

_ _

Men

[hoary cape]

Mods get this guy with hammers

[split mortar]

no

[deft vessel]

The armor sprites for the male and female versions Were digfferent and it does not really make sense

[devout grotto]

[split mortar]

Mi think it’s to differentiate male and female beyond when you have no armour

[pliant ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/ishmael-limbus-update-project-moon-gif-5579754469077223342

[fierce pagoda]

The Gender change potion is the only potion that requires all the herbs

[deft vessel]

I guess, but it still does not make sense

Because its sort of a small change

[fierce pagoda]

I think that one isnt changing

Female and male armor variants are here to stay

[deft vessel]

[fierce pagoda]

Btw did anyone see Red flipping forward on his bluesky account

[split mortar]

Terraria canonically has easily accessible transitioning potions

[fierce pagoda]

Bro is fit as a fiddle at 40

[deft vessel]

Historical inaccuracies in my terraria?!

[split mortar]

Idk what that phrase means

[dusk laurel]

A fiddle is an instrument iirc

[fierce pagoda]

Hes very fit for a 40 year old man

Fiddlesticks

[mossy parcel]

How did braelor and statis almost kill yharim?

i get that back then yharim din't have auric armor so he was probably poltergast level strenght but those 2 werent gods and one has statigel armor

[untold oracle]

I think Braelor is physically stronger than Yharim (though Yharim must be much more skilled) and Statis is super fast and evasive

Braelor is also blessed by Silva and Statis is theorized to be blessed by Slime God

[shut tide]

What does this mean

[deft vessel]

He had auric armor, but it got an exo upgrade after the fight

[untold oracle]

Calamitous

[shut tide]

That was Calamitous

[untold oracle]

Calamitas the Calamitous (3): ”That was Calamitous”

[shut tide]

The movie of all time

[mossy parcel]

Ok but how did the slime god guy get even close to post-ml strength, was the slime god stronger back then?

[dusk laurel]

What?

[untold oracle]

I think Slime God’s potential is much much higher than his current strength, but due to his balancing hyperfixation he refrains from doing it

[split mortar]

No, statis is just straight stronger then slime god and likely post ml level

[untold oracle]

Also consider that a normal person would be killed by king slime

[split mortar]

Hell, multiple trained soldiers would likely die

[untold oracle]

Depends on their gear

[deft vessel]

I feel like it would take around 10 normal soldier to get king slime

[split mortar]

Talking average trained soldier, meaning max is platinum with a sword or bow and no life crystals

[mossy parcel]

It depends on what draedon gives them

[untold oracle]

My terrarian is just built different

She only needs a minishark and fossil armour, got hit only once by the ruby

[trim edge]

what is their base hp with no life crystals
bcuz it's different for the terrarian and npcs

[split mortar]

I think npcs having 250 is gameplay

[split mortar]

I think 100

[split mortar]

Like why cal npcs have a million million fucking health

Like us with max life crystals are legit able to tank 4 people worth of damage I think

[untold oracle]

Calamitas the Brimstone Witch was slain by Green Slime

[dusk laurel]

Calshield

[shut tide]

Green slime vs yharim who is winning

(for obvious reasons this is a joke)

[untold oracle]

I’m placing my CalCoins on the slime

[split mortar]

Obviously green slime

Same

[devout grotto]

Green Slime for the win

[mossy parcel]

Green slime beats yharim in the semifinal and goes straight for xeroc who is calling his mom

[deft vessel]

Green slime no dif

[mossy parcel]

walking fish or green slime?

[untold oracle]

Green slime vs. Fearless goldfish warrior

[devout grotto]

[shut tide]

[sage berry]

I’ve recently wondered if 1 on this scale is a human, how strong are some of theses bosses?

[shut tide]

whar

[split mortar]

Omni has done some calculations

Uh storm weaver is like low city level I think

[wheat walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/sukuna-sukuna-cute-cute-ryomen-sukuna-ryomen-gif-16909826561147801706

[split mortar]

So yeah late game bosses are actual nukes iirc

[shut tide]

didnt storm weaver fuck a place up

[split mortar]

They fucking up the remains of a place

[wheat walrus]

i think storm weaver guy is just eating at the ruins of chrysadia

that's it

[dusk laurel]

Yuh

[wheat walrus]

same way melon gun eats phones

[dusk laurel]

Yep

[split mortar]

It already got nuked by the sentient extinction event that is fovos

[split mortar]

Hey

It’s phone cases

Well

Case

[wheat walrus]

same thing

you're still eating plastic n shit

[dusk laurel]

Melon gun has macroplastics in his system at this point

[wheat walrus]

yea

[split mortar]

Just biting not swallowing

[wheat walrus]

doesn't change much

some plastic would still enter inside you :/

[split mortar]

Not because of the cases

Different object of plastic I had swallowed

[dusk laurel]

What.

[wheat walrus]

dude

[dusk laurel]

[split mortar]

Paper tastes boring btw

[dusk laurel]

.

[wheat walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/cooking-food-box-hq-flipping-the-meat-preparing-a-meal-steak-cooking6y5cu18y4ac-gif-27311541

[split mortar]

Unless it’s slightly old or dirty idk then it gets some flavour but still boring in the end

[wheat walrus]

look at this

[split mortar]

Too much fat

Pass

[dusk laurel]

Just cut it off???

How about chicken

[wheat walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/apple-fruit-food-fruits-gif-art-gif-3102254674696780208

what about this

[untold oracle]

I think paper has a bad texture

[split mortar]

That’s fine

[untold oracle]

It turns so clumpy

[split mortar]

Feels like it should get easier to chew so I chew it for longer then is enjoyable

[fierce pagoda]

In the future id like to see a "defeating Yharim with slime staff challenge" so that we can say Slime summons are capable of killing Yharim

👍

[split mortar]

Yharim on his way to heal 1 million health every minute and a half (healing potion)

[untold oracle]

Don’t forget when he ubercharges his healthbar with dragonfruits

[split mortar]

And draedon heart heals

[hoary berry]

draedon gave his heart to yharim and the terrarian?

what a player

[cloud ibex]

any weapon is capable of killing anything if you're patient enough

[hoary berry]

yharim vs my spore sac

[split mortar]

Well that just sounds wrong

[hoary berry]

?

[stoic gulch]

Yharim versus absorber

[untold oracle]

Melom..,

[dusk laurel]

Meloneanator

[manic coral]

writing stuff for permafrost makes me really wish cryogen was after calclone in progression

[split mortar]

Oh why?

[dusk laurel]

[manic coral]

because it'd just be better narratively if you fought what you thought was close to cal and THEN learned more about the ACTUAL cal

instead of the reverse

[split mortar]

Can’t you like

Make permafrost reveal more about scal after the clone?

[manic coral]

yes

but still

[dusk laurel]

Could there be changes made to the progression or no?

[manic coral]

i'm not gonna suggest an entire progression change just becuase i want to make story stuff be a bit smoother

[untold oracle]

Just give perma more dialogue as progression goes

Simple

[split mortar]

That’s what I suggested

[untold oracle]

Ya

[split mortar]

Though it may be dialogue that only makes sense after freed not after clone idk

[manic coral]

I mean yeah but again it would be even dumber if he at first didn't have ANYTHING to say about Cal considering

She was literally the last thing he saw before he got literally iced.

[untold oracle]

It would be so wholesome to have Perma talk about seeing Calamitas again after scal fight

[split mortar]

Yeah

[wheat walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/sukuna-sukuna-cute-cute-ryomen-sukuna-ryomen-gif-16909826561147801706

feel free to do so

[fierce pagoda]

Permafrost: "What do you mean i should have told you that what you fought was only a clone, and the real calamitas is way stronger and still out there? you never asked!"

[manic coral]

so, like, he's gotta talk about her at least a good bit

[manic coral]

i mean the boss is literally called Calamitas Clone

[fierce pagoda]

I know

[manic coral]

The player to some extent does realize it themselves as not the real thing

[untold oracle]

Wait if the Terrarian named the majority of bosses how did they know it was a clone???

[fierce pagoda]

it was just a silly joke in the making

[deft vessel]

Just make being iced have some impact on his memory so he remebers more details a bit later

[wheat walrus]

the calclone paradox

[split mortar]

Probably cause it isn’t incinerating the area code mid fight

[split mortar]

Lucky guess

[deft vessel]

Just remove the clone part from the name

[manic coral]

The player to some extent does realize it themselves as not the real thing

[spare pier]

We should change that ngl

[manic coral]

probably because the upcomign redesign makes it more obvious

[wheat walrus]

yea call it "calamitas 0.5" or "calamitas demo edition" smth

[spare pier]

Like, I still think we should bring back the whole thing of Calamitas Clone having a fakeout but not in the way of "hah, you thought this was a Retinazer clone"

[deft vessel]

Just call it Calamitas

And reveal the clone part later

[split mortar]

Calamitas???

[wheat walrus]

calamity

[spare pier]

I think the "Clone" part doesn't even have to be revealed in the fight yeah

[manic coral]

also reply reply

[manic coral]

i disagree

[deft vessel]

Calamity mod reference

[manic coral]

but that's a conversation for elsewhere

[wheat walrus]

reb vs cei debate would go hard

[split mortar]

Yeah probably a dev chat

[manic coral]

but liek obviously yeah perma will have way more to say after calclone

[untold oracle]

Cei vs. Rebecca battle when

[wheat walrus]

start making the edits sigmas

[manic coral]

just yeah

[spare pier]

Fair enough

[spare pier]

I lose

[wheat walrus]

nah id win

:/

[deft vessel]

Replyception

[fierce pagoda]

Permafrost will be refraining information until we remember to ask him about it.

[manic coral]

it would be way better if you got to know basically NOTHING abotu the real cal until after clone

[untold oracle]

Stand proud, Reb, you are strong

[manic coral]

yes my typing is bad, i'm focusing on making permafrost stuff good

so

all writing energy goes there rn

[fierce pagoda]

that kinda reminds me of that one One Piece gag, about Robin withholding vital information from the strawhats because they didn't ask.

[wheat walrus]

one piece

[deft vessel]

Energy management

[spare pier]

https://tenor.com/view/valhalla-persona-anime-cute-smile-gif-17239820

[dusk laurel]

Creature

[wheat walrus]

no reb one peice wasn't mentiond /:

[split mortar]

One piece mentioned

[untold oracle]

What have you done

[wheat walrus]

:/*

[wheat walrus]

gator said it first

[split mortar]

New emote dropped

/:

[fierce pagoda]

nuh uh

[untold oracle]

No it’s all your fault

[wheat walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/sukuna-touch-gif-4066678553980908484

[split mortar]

No thanks

[wheat walrus]

end thyself :&

[fierce pagoda]

I always wanted to rip that piece off of Sukunas face

[hoary berry]

[fierce pagoda]

I bet it would feel satisfying

[split mortar]

Oh yeah true does seem satisfying to do that

[dusk laurel]

[wheat walrus]

rip

[fierce pagoda]

It looks like its as hard as a piece of wood

[wheat walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/i-show-speed-heian-era-sukuna-my-mom-kinda-homeless-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-gif-12668696604743986375

you mean the 2 big eyes here

[fierce pagoda]

that was later

idk why it changed

[untold oracle]

You would eat the piece wouldn’t you

[split mortar]

No it’s not my own flesh

[dusk laurel]

What

[wheat walrus]

dude

[fierce pagoda]

Ever heard of an ouroboros burger?

[wheat walrus]

that would go hard

[fierce pagoda]

So you send some of your DNA to some guys, and then they grow human meat out of your DNA, then that stake is used to make a burger, and then you eat the burger

essentially you're eating yourself

hence the Ouroboros part

[untold oracle]

@split mortar does it sound good

[split mortar]

No

[wheat walrus]

bitch what

😭

[dusk laurel]

[fierce pagoda]

I kinda wanna try it

[hoary berry]

[dusk laurel]

[hoary berry]

[fierce pagoda]

just to see how it tastes, and to say that i did it

[split mortar]

Prion disease moment?

[fierce pagoda]

can you guys stop staring at me

[noble niche]

Is there a lore reason why this pear look so scrumptious?

[dusk laurel]

No

Sadly

[split mortar]

It doesn’t

[hoary berry]

i don't eat pears but honestly that does look yummy

[noble niche]

Xaqoridocx the god of sumptuous fruits might've made it idk

[light linden]

random thing

what do y'all think an auric soul of metal would create if absorbed?

[deft vessel]

Craftmanship

[noble niche]

...really sick metal

[hoary cape]

Pears are kinda mid

[fierce pagoda]

I don't eat Durian's, not because I don't like it or anything, its just that i have no way of getting some

[untold oracle]

I don’t like the texture really

[noble niche]

That take is kinda mid

[hoary cape]

I don't like pears

I am sorry

Kiwis>

[untold oracle]

God of Gear

[fierce pagoda]

Stronger version of that metal maybe, but i dont know if its even possible for anything else other than auric ore to absorbs Yharons soul fragments

[untold oracle]

So it would be Metal -> Gear (rising)

[split mortar]

God of crystals?

[light linden]

?

[fierce pagoda]

Acting as if two legends cant exist at once

[light linden]

I meant like an auric soul of metal from a dragon of metal

[hoary berry]

[fierce pagoda]

oh

[wheat walrus]

apple

[dusk laurel]

[split mortar]

God of crystals?

[wheat walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/apple-rotating-apple-gif-22293727

[light linden]

I need to s rank revengence already

[fierce pagoda]

I thought you meant putting Yharon soul fragments into other ores

[hoary cape]

They can, but pears aren't a legend

[fierce pagoda]

other than auric

[light linden]

I've gotten close

[deft vessel]

Senator armstrong for president

[fierce pagoda]

ngl I just love every fruit, I am not picky

unless what im picking is fruit

[light linden]

oranges suck ngl

[dusk laurel]

....

[light linden]

best fruit is green grapes

[deft vessel]

Why do oranges have so many sub-classes

[dusk laurel]

Rng

[untold oracle]

It’s a vague class

A bit overused imo

[light linden]

tryna find something that doesn't suck

[fierce pagoda]

There is a brand of green grapes where i live, named "cotton candy" and the grapes taste exactly like cotton candy

its crazy

[hoary cape]

I like oranges

[deft vessel]

Purple grapes are way better

[light linden]

yes I am hating a fruit

[dusk laurel]

[hoary cape]

Blue grapes >

[hoary berry]

all grapes are awesome

[dusk laurel]

Yeah i know that one

[light linden]

cotton candy grapes are ehh

[dusk laurel]

Cotton candy grapes

I like normal ones more tbh

[fierce pagoda]

They blew my mind the first time i ate them

i couldnt believe they got grapes to taste like cotton candy

[light linden]

a lot of local ones just try to make them as a sweet as possible and not taste like cotton candy

[deft vessel]

Wouldn’t they just taste like sugar

[light linden]

and the end result is horrid

[fierce pagoda]

I like my grapes big, juicy, crunchy and without seeds

[untold oracle]

Green is better.,

[light linden]

random thing

do we know if anyone tried to settle in illmeris's ruins after the incineration?

[fierce pagoda]

Amidias already does

or he will

when SSO drops

[untold oracle]

We’ll see in sso ig

[dusk laurel]

He spawns in a temple

Yes Cei or Reb confirmed his

[untold oracle]

But I think at least a few people will find the place comfortable

[fierce pagoda]

What if we found books in that temple

filled with lore

[light linden]

no more clam spawn

[light linden]

we can't

[dusk laurel]

Clam spawn is boring

[fierce pagoda]

Right cuz the pages would be wet

[dusk laurel]

They have stone tablets probably

[fierce pagoda]

they would have stone tablets, if you didnt eat them all...

[light linden]

they do

1 sec

[fierce pagoda]

bro is gonna pull up sea remains weapons lore

tooltip lore

[light linden]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Coral_Spout

[fierce pagoda]

What did I say

[dusk laurel]

Who eats stone???

Oh wait

[untold oracle]

[light linden]

literally everything in drg for one

[light linden]

also the crawlers might

[untold oracle]

What do your ocs think of draedor

[dusk laurel]

One hates him
The other is indifferent, mostly

[fierce pagoda]

what the hell

why did the terraria discord ping me

[light linden]

merch

[fierce pagoda]

Ew

[dusk laurel]

Announcement

[fierce pagoda]

Consumerism

[light linden]

also this

[fierce pagoda]

actually made me think you were a wizard for predicting that

[devout grotto]

Uh

Still unnamed Seisai engineer who has a big role in the story wants to beat him

(Rogue wifey worstie believes she's stupid for thinking that)

[hoary berry]

in awe, horrified, wary, fed up

are the main emotions my OCs tend to feel when dealing with draedon

[devout grotto]

If anyone's curious, they're old woman yuri

[dusk laurel]

Go on

[untold oracle]

I haven’t really decided

Yet what my one thinks

[devout grotto]

If they weren't slain by Yharim, Amatsumara would 100% vibe with him (Draedon I mean)

...until they find out that he destroys the environment as well

[deft vessel]

Suplier

Also thinks that Draedon is lazy

[split mortar]

Hey he plans on not doing that in the future

[devout grotto]

The Sulphurous Sea thing would probably still sour their view on him regardless

[glossy wolf]

what exactly is noxus and how did he come to be?

[dusk laurel]

We don't know

[untold oracle]

Gabriel’s plug

[stoic gulch]

How he came to be I don’t believ is revealed

And noxus is a guy

Which is like entropic and stuff

[pliant ruin]

Distortion creature that is really powerful and has control over the Devourer

that's about it

we don't know the rest

[glossy wolf]

and about xeroc we know, iirc, literally nothing about him besides hes strong and hes the first god?

[deft vessel]

We know a bit more

[random mulch]

god of primordial light, made the terminus, had a perfect ascension

[deft vessel]

Real name ends in oc

[split mortar]

And made the god ritual

[split mortar]

With the rock and terminus tooltips some people theorise Xeroc is either hood or neutral not evil

[dusk laurel]

Former dragon monk

Attuned with Zeratros [inferred]

[random mulch]

consumed zeratros' soul after he was mortally wounded, though it's unknown if he actually agreed to having his soul consumed

[split mortar]

Not very edible (I think)

[split mortar]

Or if the act of doing so is bad or not

[dusk laurel]

💥

[deft vessel]

What would have been better. being a dragon or a god champion

[split mortar]

Is it a auric dragon

[warm gull]

fucked up distortion creature

eats auric souls

[deft vessel]

Yes

[random mulch]

it's kinda unknown if yharim yapping about zeratros' power potentially being lost forever is just bs or if fovos had some funky stuff going on

[warm gull]

fovos can eat auric souls

[split mortar]

Then auric dragon

[deft vessel]

I headcanon it as Fovos having so soul damaging attacks

[split mortar]

(Not confirmed)

[split mortar]

(Hasn’t eaten a auric soul they got used up, it’s god essence)

[dusk laurel]

Double ping

[random mulch]

it's pretty heavily implied that noxus is using DoG to obtain godly essence ut it's never outright stated

[deft vessel]

Probably if the dragons can donate some of their power

[split mortar]

Womp womp

[dusk laurel]

@split mortar

[split mortar]

Not this again

[dusk laurel]

What?

I'm not ping chaining you

[strange stump]

is there a list of yharim's war crimes

[split mortar]

Yeah, they’re called the Geneva convention

[stoic gulch]

@split mortar

[split mortar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/865723388081340428/1307644020641632306/bounce.gif

[dusk laurel]

Maybe let's not do this again

:3

[stoic gulch]

Uh I was wondering about draedon lore and Exo mech lore cuz my friend said it was like machines gone rogue and that DoG was also a creation by draedon

I could’ve just asked

Anyone

But ur my g

[stoic gulch]

?

What again

[dusk laurel]

The ping chaining of @ melon gun

[stoic gulch]

Oh that

Yeah sorry melon gun for pinging you and giving you ptsd

[split mortar]

Exo mechs are utterly under draedons control, only thing he didn’t expect was them creating unstable miracle matter but that was them performaing better then expected

Dogs armour was made by draedon but that’s it, they’re far more likely to be made by noxus or altered by noxus to consume god essence but no matter what dogs origin has nothing with draedon

[stoic gulch]

Ohk thanks

I’ll prove that idiot wrong

[cold owl]

For the machines gone rogue, they are probably thinking of the mechanical bosses.

[stoic gulch]

Yeah that Ik of

I more like knew the lore but my friend said I was lying

So uh like second opinion from lore person

=

Better result

[split mortar]

Exo mechs literally obey draedon during the fight how did they think they were rogue?

[stoic gulch]

Idfk

[random mulch]

it's not like draedon is just off doing his own thing while the fight happens he is right there

[stoic gulch]

They say god of devour instead of devour of gods

[split mortar]

Whar

[stoic gulch]

Like literally think they are the god of devouring

[random mulch]

one hell of a name

just tell em to check the wiki

[stoic gulch]

They’ve played tMod for like 1000 hours they should know this

[stoic gulch]

He didn’t want to

[warped rapids]

god of devour that is so real

[stoic gulch]

He is a boring friend

[split mortar]

Invite them to calmain lore chat :3

[stoic gulch]

Nope def not

[random mulch]

they shall be reëducated

[stoic gulch]

He is unable to English

Kinda wished he could do better English

Cuz we have had way too many arguments about cal

[split mortar]

Oh if they bad at English they may have mixed the two up or something

[random mulch]

true

[split mortar]

Hence why they put god if devour or something idk

[stoic gulch]

No he can like read it just not write it

Or he just does it so he can be annoying and seem special

[stoic gulch]

Yeah maybe

At least he is now corrected

Thanks fam

[frank dune]

Hello everyone

[split mortar]

Hi

[frank dune]

Is yharim against child labor?

[pliant ruin]

ask calamitas

[dusk laurel]

^

[split mortar]

^

[frank dune]

Ik ik

I am interested how many ppl here are clueless

[stoic gulch]

I am

Trust me

[frank dune]

https://tenor.com/view/mgr-metal-gear-rising-rock-rockcustom-sam-gif-24643451

[stoic gulch]

D:

Ur not clueless u know I’m a skeleton

[split mortar]

Yharm fine with child soldiers

[stoic gulch]

Yes Ik that calamitas was took in to make war crimes as a traumatized child

[frank dune]

+1000 social credit

[light linden]

depends

zeratros did make the surface extremely hard to live on

but also that one act snowballed into a near genocide

[frank dune]

Wuh

[split mortar]

Idk if it’s confirmed if zeratros had control of the sun to that degree, but idk any other options

[light linden]

the only real explanation for how the sun became less intense after the draconic purges

[dusk laurel]

Xeroc probably didn't intend to cause the end of the dragons

[split mortar]

Was revealed a bit ago that during dragon times the sun was much much much much much harsher to the point living next to lava as hot as the surface of the sun was preferable

[light linden]

intentions or not that is a black mark

[frank dune]

Grill

Well thats clear dragons were bad then

[dusk laurel]

Not really

Again, not all things are the same

[light linden]

we don't really know their reason for doing so tbf

[split mortar]

Vetrasyl likely kept a storm over chrysadia so people didn’t spontaneously get cancer

[dusk laurel]

Like not all dragons were bad or good

[split mortar]

Just means zeratros wasn’t exactly the best

[frank dune]

Thats also revealed not so long ago?

[split mortar]

Just a guess

[light linden]

maybe keeping the sun on full blast increased the amount of mana available on the planet?

[dusk laurel]

I think the dragons were more resistant to the heat if they lasted that long

[split mortar]

Maybe keeping the sun on full blast attracted fovos

[dusk laurel]

So it wasn't really a need for them to lower the temperatures

[split mortar]

Maybe it’s cause dragons preferre warmer climates??

[dusk laurel]

Reptiles are like that

So maybe

[frank dune]

Prikki mentioned

[light linden]

also interesting thing

[frank dune]

What about humans then?

All lived at underground

[dusk laurel]

Nope

Chrysadia was not underground

[light linden]

since the sun being so intense might've helped plant growth, it might be the reason for the giant trees

[pliant ruin]

humans did start underground tho

[dusk laurel]

Yeah

[light linden]

every civilization but chrysadia iirc

[split mortar]

That’s for the first civilisation

[pliant ruin]

based on the amount of abandoned houses there are underground and none on the surface

[split mortar]

Meaning terrarians first formed major society underground and thus would also be hidden from sun

[pliant ruin]

id say humans for the most part were primarily underground

[frank dune]

Holy fuck Angela

[light linden]

still wonder though

[pliant ruin]

until

yknow

xeroc

[frank dune]

So like

[light linden]

what did they eat pre azafure?

[pliant ruin]

also yes its Angela from Hit Game Library of Ruina....

[frank dune]

Dragon genocide started 200/100 years ago?

[pliant ruin]

mmm delicious bats

[split mortar]

800

[dusk laurel]

Rocks, maybe they hunted elsewhere for food

[split mortar]

It’s older then draedon

[light linden]

the rabies infested bats?

[split mortar]

Just cook the food

[dusk laurel]

Hellbats

[frank dune]

Eat worms

[split mortar]

True

[frank dune]

Cannibalism is also an option....

[light linden]

what would they have to start a fire?

[dusk laurel]

Just like go hunt outside of the underworld

Shrimple as that

[frank dune]

I guess

[split mortar]

The entirety of hell:

[light linden]

what about fueling it?

[split mortar]

The wood from hell forests:

[frank dune]

Wuh

[frank dune]

True

[light linden]

the one that can't be burned?

[frank dune]

Though that's probably a rare occurrence

[split mortar]

Also hell has lava everywhere the food gets naturally cooked

[frank dune]

Cuz well there is only 1 forest

In hell

[split mortar]

In the like 4 kilometres of land we play on

[frank dune]

Slimes and demons yeah...

[light linden]

WAIT

gel can be used as fuel

[split mortar]

Slimes are filled with lava or are on fire and demons are just one of many proof life can adapt to withstand hell while alive

[frank dune]

Just throw other human in lava ig

That's the only option in hell

Demons turn into ash at death so ye

[split mortar]

Or use the actual lava for heat

[frank dune]

Grilled bat

Damn life was hell

With dragons

Imagine what happens to oceans

Plants

Animals

[split mortar]

Plants prob thrive
Oceans would prob have more storms and rain
Animals be underground

I think that’s what happened though yeah def not ideal

[frank dune]

Alright so how xeroc was able to survive then

[split mortar]

He wore clothing over most of his skin 24/7 I think
And being attuned to the sunlight dragon prob helped resist said sunlight

[frank dune]

Thats kinda tyranny ruling damn

That plantera arena maybe remains of old villages?

[split mortar]

It’s the remains of the village that made plantera iirc

[visual kiln]

wtf real

less boss bloat in the mech tier

[frank dune]

Permafrost prime

[visual kiln]

also move brimmy to pre-hm, evil-2 somewhere in hm, deus/anahita to post-ml, and spread out the sentinels more across progression imo,,

and replace dragonfolly with an event instead of a boss

[frank dune]

Wtf is this order

[visual kiln]

swarm of dragonfollies

[split mortar]

Idk how I feel about anahita being post ml and brim being pre hardmode

[frank dune]

I question how tf elemental can be in pre hm

[visual kiln]

brimmy is bc there's already a whole lot of stuff in the mech tier

[light linden]

ngl I'd be down for the last one

[frank dune]

Tbfh

[visual kiln]

ig aquatic scourge could be moved instead but

[light linden]

the rest though I feel eh about

[visual kiln]

2 scourges rlly close to each other

[split mortar]

I think folly should just be like old deus and spawn 11 of the fuckers instead of 1 but not an event

[frank dune]

All elementals should be post ml

[visual kiln]

hognar~1

[light linden]

forgot what I was going to ask

[visual kiln]

evil-2 in hm is motivated by evil boss progression sucking

[light linden]

oh right

[split mortar]

Eh I don’t think so myself

[visual kiln]

u have to fight 2 evil bosses back to bck

they infringe on each other

[split mortar]

Same I think it should be hm

[visual kiln]

it murders evil boss pacing

[frank dune]

They should move evil 2 to hardmode tbh

[light linden]

I'd prefer a post ml but pre-prov evil boss

[visual kiln]

neither of them r climactic

[visual kiln]

might be cool too

[pliant ruin]

post ml evil boss would becool

because hardmode has like

2002590252582895 bosses already

[frank dune]

True

[light linden]

because right after ml the game's difficulty feels kinda wonky

[visual kiln]

deus in post-ml is bc actual post-ml astral content my beloved ❤️

anahita being moved is based entirely on vibes

[frank dune]

Facts

[pliant ruin]

deus in post ml is based

[split mortar]

Hardmode has a bajillion bosses but imo is also one of the better places to put bosses

Though I think cryogen could be pretty hm somewhere

[dusk laurel]

Deus being post-ML would be cool

[light linden]

I've always thought that deus should be the boss right after the moon lord

[frank dune]

Fr

Deus then dog

Then yharon worm

Then exo worm

Then scal worm

[strange stump]

would yharim vibe with odin

[split mortar]

Don’t think deus should be that strong

[hybrid barn]

I actually talked with some of the devs about this, and the answer for why they haven't been is because early hardmode is too bloated with content to add more significant stuff to it, and if they were added to late hardmode, it'd create a bunch of balancing issues

[split mortar]

Have they enslaved people

[visual kiln]

also spreading out the sentinels is awesome bc they're no longer dog related and also bc they're kinda the climaxes of their own separate little storylines

[pliant ruin]

i actually

really like pre hm brimmy

[light linden]

gives you a new way to get fragments without constantly fighting the moon lord

[visual kiln]

like weaver's chrysadia

[frank dune]

That doesn't make sence

[visual kiln]

(golem alt weaver >:3

[frank dune]

In lore terms

[pliant ruin]

how dosen't it, brimmy is already weakened

[split mortar]

And gameplay imo

[pliant ruin]

just make her weaker

[visual kiln]

how so

[pliant ruin]

she's a husk of her former self anyways

[light linden]

whenever my add-on is done you'd prolly like one of the bosses

[visual kiln]

:3

[light linden]

it's a post-dog astral boss

[visual kiln]

whats ur addon

[split mortar]

2 hell bosses, same problem as evil 1 and 2

[frank dune]

Astral scourge

[pliant ruin]

john addon

adds john

[visual kiln]

hmmm

[strange stump]

god yharim would go fucking insane around the greek gods
they argue like teenagers

[visual kiln]

true tho

🤔

[pliant ruin]

ok thats a good point

[split mortar]

Can’t put brim earlier cause crags and hell are very dangerous then

[pliant ruin]

what biomes have no bosses in pre hm

[light linden]

I mean visually they are like a lamia

[frank dune]

Ice

[split mortar]

Sunken sea

Abyss

Sulphur sea

[visual kiln]

sulph sea

[pliant ruin]

aquascoog pre hm...

but then

[frank dune]

Snow biome

[pliant ruin]

2 scoogs in pre hm

eugh

[visual kiln]

ye

[pliant ruin]

snwo has deerclops

[light linden]

no

[frank dune]

Space

[visual kiln]

brimmy could be moved to like

[split mortar]

A inconsequential boss

[strange stump]

yeah?

[visual kiln]

pre-golem

[pliant ruin]

still a boss

[visual kiln]

maybe

[warm gull]

wtf azathoth actively partaking in lore discussion

[frank dune]

Lets ignore his existence

[split mortar]

^

[pliant ruin]

cal boss progression is too fucked 💔

every attempt to fix it just causes more problems

[split mortar]

I think it’s a moment of

Too many bosses

[visual kiln]

ok so what if

[dusk laurel]

It's all interconnected

[visual kiln]

kill aquascoog

[light linden]

rn I'm thinking of calling it "The Knight and The Monster"

[split mortar]

NOH

[visual kiln]

replace it with pre-hm orthocera boss

[pliant ruin]

insane

[visual kiln]

:3

[frank dune]

Move old duke to pre hm

He is old

[pliant ruin]

beach that makes you old

[frank dune]

[light linden]

ngl

[split mortar]

The real reason sulp sea is fucked

[visual kiln]

plumg

[dusk laurel]

I think no

[light linden]

You think the dragons would hate draedon?

[split mortar]

Some would some wouldn’t

[pliant ruin]

in a perfect world half of cal bosses wouldnt exist ill be fr

[visual kiln]

TURE

[frank dune]

Follies should be in hm instead of post ml

[visual kiln]

nah

[light linden]

I've been standing on a barrel in drg this entire time

[frank dune]

It just doesn't fit

[visual kiln]

follies should be an event

[light linden]

no

[split mortar]

That or be like 11 of the fuckers

[sinful adder]

Which bosses would be best to remove then

[visual kiln]

swarm of follies

event

[visual kiln]

scoog

old duke

[random mulch]

obliterate calclone

[pliant ruin]

i dont think any of the bosses should be removed atp

but i think